Discussing Bleach!

[Kagura]

What is your opinion of the anime Bleach? I have watched it since they started showing it on Cartoon Network. (all except for last Saturday) I like it so far. Its pretty cool! :)

[likenewbie]

i recommend watching the subbed version instead, you'll like the show a whole lot more

[kiyomi]

Subbed..dubbed..who cares. It's still good either way. The characters are interesting and the storyline so far is good. I look forawrd to seeing more.

[Mr. sickVisionz]

At first, I was only watching Bleach to... I don't know. It was mildly entertaining and I could easily find it on youtube so I watched it. However, I just saw episode 28 and 29 and now i'm a major major major fan of the show.

I like to see characters that have alot of intelligence slaughtering their opponents with an insane display of skill, but expending little to no effort. I got like two episodes filled with nothing but than I love Bleach for it. Heres hoping they never kill him off or make him to something to look like a fool.

[lil'dragon]

What is your opinion of the anime Bleach? I have watched it since they started showing it on Cartoon Network. (all except for last Saturday) I like it so far. Its pretty cool! :)

Bleach is currently my favorite anime. It has a legion of really cool characters and a well paced, exciting story that keeps you at the edge of your seat. If you like it now, you'll LOVE it later. Gets SO much better.

[SDAnimeFan]

Bleach is one of my Favorites I think the dub is alright, but I like the sub version better.

[Samurai Drifter]

I'm watching it fansubbed currently. My anime fandom was pretty much on the verge of burning out before I started it, and now I'm like the fanboy I was a few years ago (except with a brain this time). It really renewed my interest in long series and anime as a whole.

[MightyDustLoop]

Eh, the dub portrays the emotion for this one fine. It seems pretty excellent. Having to read subtitles can understandably detract from the intended experience themselves, as the Japanese read no such thing/

As for Bleach, I thought it was kinda okay until it hits the arc about 20 episodes in. That's when it got pretty phenomenal. One of my favorite shonen fighting arcs of any show, right up there with Kenshin's Kyoto Arc, Hakusho's Dark Tournament, and DBZ's Cell Saga. Either way, keep watching. Doesn't disappoint, though I must admit I've given up watching since that arc ended. I made it about 5 or 6 episodes and just couldn't take anymore.

[Kagura]

I enjoy it! I have watched it this past Saturday. It was interesting! How In the world were they able to create that Soul Candy? Oh boy. He is gonna have a hard time getting his body back I think. It was kind of funny when the other students saw him fighting and they wondered why is he kicking the air? :lol:

[Tidusauron12]

I'm watching the dub right now. I'll get the sub later. So far, it's pretty good. The dub makes me laugh alot:

*Rukia, finishes bad drawing explaining something important.* "Do you understand this?" *She shows it to Ichigo.*

*Ichigo looks it over.* "Yeah, but the snoopy drawings make it seem like it's not a big deal."

*Rukia smacks Ichigo.*

Yeah. That's entertainment. And it's pretty genuine. I like it when they have simple comedy in anime.

[Kagura]

I like that too! It makes the anime even more worth watching! I know this is a stupid question but what is the difference between dub and sub? I am seriously looking forward to watching Bleach this Saturday. I wonder how Ichigo is gonna get his body back? :lol: By the way, that stuff posted above is funny!

[likenewbie]

the difference in dub and sub, other then dub is spoken in english and sub is spoken in japanese with english subtitles...the entire episodes dialogue is different. sub is very close to the original, how it was suppose to be heard. dubs in general are completely rewritten, and not just because of the foul language.

[Soluzar]

Yeah. That's entertainment. And it's pretty genuine. I like it when they have simple comedy in anime.
It's also more or less an accurate rendition of the same joke in the subbed version, which is nice to see.

[Tidusauron12]

It's also more or less an accurate rendition of the same joke in the subbed version, which is nice to see.

You got that right. I've seen anime that completly alter jokes that are stated in anime (CCCCONEOOOOOUUUUPIECEGGGGHHH).

[Kagura]

So, the dub versions are basically cu versions with no foul language and stuff? How are they completely rewritten? Can you give an example?

[EmberAlchemist0]

I really like Bleach so far. I've seen all the episodes on adult swim Saturday nights excpet last weeks I haven't had the chance to yet and I have it taped too. From what I have seen up til now is really great.

Kiyomi, if you read this you best not give me crap. :P

[Kagura]

You should try to watch that episode before Saturday. That way you'll understand what is going on on there. It was cool and yet a little funny!

[Tidusauron12]

So, the dub versions are basically cu versions with no foul language and stuff? How are they completely rewritten? Can you give an example?

Naruto's dub took out all of the curse words (there were ALOT in the original Japanese version).

Even on Adult Swim, they have to alter the dub sometimes, if the language gets too graphic.

E.G.

Ghost in the Shell: SAT 1st gig..... episode 10:

"Ishikawa cuff this lying bastard" (Dub, Adultswim addition.)

"Ishikawa, Cuff this lying son of a *****." (DVD Dub.)

I've seen changes like this throughout some of the series aired on AS.

[Mr. sickVisionz]

^

Thats far from "... completely rewritten...". Its ironic that you'd say, "completely rewritten, and not just because of the foul language" and then go on to only listen examples of curse words being removed. In one of your examples you said that he cursing is on the DVD version. Nobody should be shocked that you don't hear hard profanity on a TV14 rated show. Thats normal. Thats not radically altering the story either.

[HitokiriShadow]

Naruto's dub took out all of the curse words (there were ALOT in the original Japanese version).


You need to keep in mind that A) Japanese doesn't really have curse words at least not in the same way that we do in English and B) fansubs like to exagerate the deragotory language that is there. They sometimes (probably quite frequently) take something that would more accurately translate to "screw you" or "shut up" and make it "f*** you" or "shut the f*** up.

[Levon]

E.G.

Ghost in the Shell: SAT 1st gig..... episode 10:

"Ishikawa cuff this lying bastard" (Dub, Adultswim addition.)

"Ishikawa, Cuff this lying son of a *****." (DVD Dub.)

I've seen changes like this throughout some of the series aired on AS.

Thats not true-_-; You must have mixed something up.

The only swear words that can't be said is "sh*t" & the F word. There might be other words as well like the "C" word. I think the "N" word could be said, but I don't believe any anime shown has that word.

If anything dubs have a bad habit of adding too much swear words. Especially with old bad dubs:lol:

[Pavan]

I love it, funny at the right times and a good story. But i haven't had time to watch past 90 yet. I'll check out the dubs out when i have time, i've heard they are very good.

[Levon]

I don't think the dub is "very good", but its alright. Very mixed. Most of the main cast sounds good(Rukia, Ichigo, Orihime, Chad, Kon, & Urahara). Some of the other voices like Ichigo's sisters & nobody characters don't always sound right. I'm surprised Kon sounds good, when I heard him in the previews I diddn't like it much but after watching the episode Kon is in he is actually pretty good. Some might not like Urahara's voice, but I like that VA from Kaze no Yojimbo, he has a cool attitude voice which fits Urahara. Although not as cool as the Japanese voice.
The hollows sound pretty good most of the time, besides a few cheesy lines.

Some of the dialog is messed up.

This company is new, so I hope they get better. This might be their first serious dub, before all they really did was Digimon Tamers, Naruto & a few others. Some dubs(especially with long running shows) will improve & change for the better. Could be worse, Ocean Group could have dubbed it....

[Kagura]

This pst Saturday's episode was funny. I liked how the stuffed animal came to life and what Ichigo and Rukia do to it. I would say but for those who missed it, this would be a spoiler. I cant wait to see next weeks show! :) So, what else is there different between sub & dub versions?

[Levon]

So, what else is there different between sub & dub versions?

The dialog doesn't seem to be very accurate. But I'll wait til its on DVD to compare(unless they use dubtitles:x )

The Japanese sounds much better IMO. For example Orihime sounds good in the dub but shes more cute in Japanese.

[Kagura]

OK. Does anyone have a guess or a thought of what will become of the teddy bear that was brought to life on the last episode?

[Levon]

A lot of us have seen the fansubs-_-; Kon becomes a main character, but mostly for comic relief. He isn't in the Soul Society arc much besides a few fillers that are purely comedy.

[Kagura]

Well, I like comedy from time to time in anime anyhow! Thanks! If you or anyone here was a character on Bleach, what would you do with the Souls in the Soul candy? The ones that were like Kon is.

[Tidusauron12]

heh, I guess my info really is wrong. lol. My bad.

[Mr. sickVisionz]

If you or anyone here was a character on Bleach, what would you do with the Souls in the Soul candy? The ones that were like Kon is.


If it can work on a stuffed animal (with no actual skeleton, nerves or muscles) than I think it can be attached to anything. I'd stick one into a computer. The soul should be able to do anything a computer user (but really i'm thinking a computer hacker) could do and can probally do it easier.

If the soul could travel over networks, that'd be insane. The things you could do with that type of power are crazy, cuz pretty much every electronic system is connected to a network where at least one computer has internet access.

[Kagura]

I would put one in an Inuyasha figure. The figure would be of Inuyasha of course to bring a real Inuyasha to life! Or of any anime character in fact!

[EmberAlchemist0]

I would put one in an Inuyasha figure. The figure would be of Inuyasha of course to bring a real Inuyasha to life! Or of any anime character in fact!

You would say that. :P

Anyways I think Kon is funny. I mean a soul in a teddy bear.. :lol:

[Kagura]

When I saw that Teddy Bear coming to life like that, it was hilarious! :lol:

I would definitely not use a soul in a Bo Bo Bo figure or in the Hercule figure from DBZ! :lol:

I missed Bleach last night because Adult Swim line up times changed yet again. Did anyone here catch it?

[HitokiriShadow]

I wasn't watching it, but according to The Click (an ANN column), its the one about Ichigo's mom and her death. A rather important episode. Next week's episode is part two of this week's as well.

[Levon]

When I saw that Teddy Bear coming to life like that, it was hilarious! :lol:

To be more specific he is a lion:P

[Kagura]

OK. A Teddy Lion then! :lol: Ok. Since we know that the episode I missed was about Ichigo's mother death, could anyone tell more about what happened in that episode? That way when this Saturday comes, I'll be got up and know what i missed. Thanks!

[SMiLEYY]

Bleach is currently my favorite anime.
Currently on Episode 97.
I recommend watching the subbed.
In my opinion, it's better. :)

[Kagura]

Really? How is it better?

[crow-kun]

Really? How is it better?Because....shut up thats why. :P

[Kagura]

Because....shut up thats why. :P

But I am curious as to how its better. Everyone has a different opinion on stuff like this. I had to miss Bleach last night too. :( Now I am really behind.

[Lord Timaeus]

Because....shut up thats why. :P

No offense, but you're really starting to turn into flamebait.

And I stopped watching Bleach on episode 66 due to lack of interest; not because I thought the filler arc sucked, but because it's a problem I have with every fansub I watch. I still think both the anime and the manga jumped the shark after the Soul Society arc, though; this show used to be my bread and butter up until I got spoiled on Aizen's betrayal.

[Kagura]

Wow. what are the arcs after the Soul Society arc?

[Lord Timaeus]

Well, in the anime, the next arc is the Bount arc, which is still going on after 40 or so episodes. In the manga, we're introduced to the arrancar arc, which tells us about Aizen's creation of Hollow/shinigami hybrids, as well as his goal to kill the king of Soul Society (probably to usurp the throne,) and kidnap Orihime in order to revive the Hougyoku. As of chapter 250, Ichigo and company are in Hueco Mundo in order to rescue Orihime.

[crow-kun]

No offense, but you're really starting to turn into flamebait.I was joking, really whats the point of having the damn smilies if you are just going to take it seriously anyway. <_< Look, I'm using the annoyed one now according to smilies logic I must be joking.

[SMiLEYY]

Really? How is it better?

Ah, well, it's really opinionated.
So, if you enjoy the dubbed version and find it good, then by all means watch it.

It's just in my opinion, I find the subbed version a lot better.
I mean, after Naruto was released on Cartoon Network, I hated it.
I mean, the dubbing SUCKS. Too American, not that being American is bad, but it takes away from that authentic anime touch.
I don't want that same thing to happen to Bleach, so I refuse to watch the dubbed, although I have seen a few episodes.
It's really because I don't want my "love" of Bleach to die, like how my love of Naruto died.

I guess that after seeing 95+ episodes of Bleach in Japanese with subs, the dubbed version just doesn't cut it.

A key factor in why I think 'sub > dub' is probably because of my admiration of the Japanese language. I just love how the words roll off the tongue. I find it so interesting and want to take it up as a foreign language in the future.

Really, it's all opinionated.
I guess I shouldn't be saying that it's better, eh?

[Levon]

Too American? Its not as if they are changing the culture where rice balls are cake(see Starblazers). Or change the names. They seem to keep the original attack names too.

[Makunouchi]

Bleach is the best anime ever. You are uncool if you watch it on Adult Swim or like the English voices. The dub sucks, that's all you need to know. If you watch it on AS, aren't caught up on the lastest episode or manga chapter, download torrents and read scantilations, n00b.

[Lord Timaeus]

Bleach is the best anime ever. You are uncool if you watch it on Adult Swim or like the English voices. The dub sucks, that's all you need to know. If you watch it on AS, aren't caught up on the lastest episode or manga chapter, download torrents and read scantilations, n00b.

Now THAT is flamebait! Especially when a good number of people on this forum don't download fansubs OR read scanlations. There are even those who watch it on AS because they actually (GASP! ULTIMATE BLASPHEMY!) LIKE the dub. So really, there's no real reason to alienate those who like dubs or don't download their anime.

[ZeroRyoko1974]

I saw the first ep of the dub on a preview disc from shonen jump. It was ok. Is the filler arc over yet?

[RukiaIkari]

I agree that the subbed version is better. The reason I think this is a mixture of the fact that I love the voices of the characters and I love japanese. Seriously, you should give the subbed version a try so you can hear the voices of the characters. Maybe it's because I saw that version first, but I really think the japanese voices match the characters so much more.

[Makunouchi]

Now THAT is flamebait! Especially when a good number of people on this forum don't download fansubs OR read scanlations. There are even those who watch it on AS because they actually (GASP! ULTIMATE BLASPHEMY!) LIKE the dub. So really, there's no real reason to alienate those who like dubs or don't download their anime.

No, the dub is terrible. I don't speak Japanese at all, but trust me... I know the Japanese voices are better. By not downloading Bleach you're supporting AS and the Americanization of this great show and you won't be up to date on it anyway.

[Lord Timaeus]

What's wrong with simply waiting for the DVDs to come out? They'll have the subbed version easily available if you don't like the dub, plus you'll actually be supporting the industry rather than resorting to copyright infringement (if you care about such stuff.)

[Makunouchi]

No, because the DVDs have the dub, thus that means I'll be supporting the dub, and it's not like I care what the RIAA thinks.

Nor do I have money to the DVDs.

[HitokiriShadow]

No, you won't be supporting the dub, you'll be supporting THE SERIES. The dub is just part of it and no one is forcing you to watch it.

Bleach is the best anime ever. You are uncool if you watch it on Adult Swim or like the English voices. The dub sucks, that's all you need to know. If you watch it on AS, aren't caught up on the lastest episode or manga chapter, download torrents and read scantilations, n00b.

........ Wow. I can't believe someone actually typed that out.

[Levon]

Makunouchi, I hope your just joking with us. If not you have some serious selfish issues you need to look into. Theres nothing worse than sounding like an elitist fanboy.

Your opinions are not facts. Remember that.

[SMiLEYY]

No, you won't be supporting the dub, you'll be supporting THE SERIES. The dub is just part of it and no one is forcing you to watch it.

Exactly.
I just think that the subbed is better, but that doesn't mean that if you watch dubs that you aren't supporting the series.
It's just a branch of where non-Japanese speaking people and people who don't want to read subs can watch the anime too.
Not all people want to have to read while watching, although I really don't mind, and would rather just have to lay back and watch and not have to make sure that they're paying attention to each detail or else they'll miss something.

[Makunouchi]

Why would I be joking? Bleach is so awesome, it's popular in Japan so it must be good so I scramble to download whatever I find.

[Lord Timaeus]

It's not that you like Bleach, or even that you prefer downloading the subs; it's that you're putting down the ones who do watch the dub, in spite of how bad it may or may not be. It's quite rude to force your beliefs on people, you know.

[Makunouchi]

Well the Japanese voices are superior, you know. The dub possibly can't be as good as the Japanese version, because dubs stink.

[Levon]

Your not god. You don't make up the rules where whatever you say is fact. Your arrogance is just making you look foolish. Look up what "opinion" means & try using it.

it's popular in Japan so it must be good

Something popular doesn't make something good.

[HitokiriShadow]

Well the Japanese voices are superior, you know. The dub possibly can't be as good as the Japanese version, because dubs stink.

While there are plenty of bad dubs out there, dubs are not inherently bad. And the Japanese language dub is not inherently better than the English dub. There are plenty of good dubs out there, and Bleach's is not the greatest, but it is far from the worst.

And like Levon said, popular does not mean good. *points at Inu Yasha*

[Kagura]

Bleach is the best anime ever. You are uncool if you watch it on Adult Swim or like the English voices. The dub sucks, that's all you need to know. If you watch it on AS, aren't caught up on the lastest episode or manga chapter, download torrents and read scantilations, n00b.

I think that you are talking about me when you said this right? :( Oh well. I guess I am not cool then right? I apologize then. I like to watch Bleach on Adult Swim. I also don't find a problem in watching it even though its dub. There are lots of people that like to watch Bleach on A.S. I can't buy any kind of anime manga in my area cause none of the stores where I live sell any kind of manga. I don't trust ordering alot online either. Also, I dont get into going and trying to find somewhere to download torrents and stuff either. I don't do it. I figured maybe someone here would have seen the last 2 weeks episodes and could just tell me what happened.

Thanks to those of you who are trying to help me out here. From what you explained, its debateable which is better. For now, I am gonna stick with watching it on A.S. Oh, When is the 1st (or is it out already) DVD of Bleach gonna be released?

[HitokiriShadow]

It's not so much that its "debatable" as its a matter of preference. Usually. Except for truly awful dubs or there is a translation issue or you have something like 4Kids' One Piece.

I think the first DVD comes out next week. Or maybe its the week after. It's definitely this month though.

[Kagura]

Thanks HitokiriShadow. I am going to buy it when it does come out. I take it that you dont like One Piece then right? I don't care much for it. I just prefer the English version of DVDs because its the only versions I have ever seen. But, I imagine that the other version is good too.

[HitokiriShadow]

I dont' have anything against One Piece. I'm interested in the manga, though I haven't read it in a while since I'm waiting for Viz to get to the spot that I stopped reading scanlated (around chapter 130 or so, which I'm guessing will be around volume 14).

However, I DO dislike the 4Kids horrendous hack job of One Piece. I heard enough of the dub (and far more about it in regards to their editing and removal of entire story arcs) to know I wanted nothing to do with that.

[ThePirateKing]

I'm a huge One Piece fan and i do not get mad when people dislike One Piece because of the dub. If the dub is the only means of people watching One Piece then how can I get mad. Yes it is disgusting and I never watch the dub but some people cannot download episodes or get dvd's from japan. I'm just happy Viz is treating Bleach so great, it really is a great series and I lot of people hate the fact that it starts out extremely slow. I just tell them to get to Soul Society and then talk. I mean the show takes a 180 degree and goes from fighting hollows in the real world to uncovering a huge conspiracy, fighting other shinigami, and discovering new powers in Soul Society. Then it takes another 180 and goes to fighting the Bount and discovering how they came to be (yea i know its filler). So if you haven't started seeing Bleach I suggest you start because whats to come is going to blow people away.

PS. SEE ONE PIECE

[HitokiriShadow]

So if you haven't started seeing Bleach I suggest you start because whats to come is going to blow people away.

I think its safe to say that everyone in this thread has seen at least some of Bleach. People don't usually come into a discussion thread without having seen at least some of the series that is being discussed. Unless, of course, they are just trolling.

[ThePirateKing]

Or if they wanna find out more about the series. Like reading what people have to say about it. Negative remarks may lead that person to not watch the show.

[Makunouchi]

So if you haven't started seeing Bleach I suggest you start because whats to come is going to blow people away.

Don't lie to everyone now.

[ThePirateKing]

Don't lie to everyone now.

What do you mean by that? I don't mean fillers, its whats coming after fillers.

[Lord Timaeus]

... I wasn't blown away by the latest manga arc; in fact, I commonly say that it's a huge shark jump from the Soul Society arc.

[Kagura]

I dont' have anything against One Piece. I'm interested in the manga, though I haven't read it in a while since I'm waiting for Viz to get to the spot that I stopped reading scanlated (around chapter 130 or so, which I'm guessing will be around volume 14).

However, I DO dislike the 4Kids horrendous hack job of One Piece. I heard enough of the dub (and far more about it in regards to their editing and removal of entire story arcs) to know I wanted nothing to do with that.

I didnt know that they cut out entire story arcs of One piece. Wow. That stinks bigtime. Anyhow, I am not mad over who likes what. Everyone has their own opinion of things. I really hope I can see Bleach this Saturday night. Could someone tell me how Ichigo's mother died? I think I heard that those were the 2 episodes that I missed.

[Levon]

The Hollow(Gran Fisher) killed her. Unless I'm wrong.


[About One Piece, 4Kids rapped the show. They have ZERO respect for anime.]

[LinaLoN]

I'm not interested in Bleach enough to buy the dvds or anything but I'm trying very hard to keep up. I really like Rukia, if it wasn't for her character I probably wouldn't have kept going with it. Ichigo tends to get on my nerves in terms of just jumping into situations blindly swinging the big sword thing around. I mean I like him a little more now that I know a little bit more about his mother's death and all but his personally is still a little to harsh for my likings. Rukia however, I like her because she straightforward but thinks ahead before she goes into a situation. Her personality is alot like mine and she kind of looks like me so it's nice to find a character like that in anime that you can relate to. I have a feeling that her and Ichigo are going to have to back each other up/ save each other's lives alot. I also get the feeling that Orihimi is going to play an important role of somesort... maybe Ichigo might start to fall for her a little. I dunno. It's enough to keep me curious and watching.

[HitokiriShadow]

Ichigo tends to get on my nerves in terms of just jumping into situations blindly swinging the big sword thing around. I mean I like him a little more now that I know a little bit more about his mother's death and all but his personally is still a little to harsh for my likings.

Ichigo gets better and doesn't just swing blindly forever. However, he is a very instinctual fighter so he still relies mostly on swinging hard and fast (just not blindly) rather than abilities, special attacks, or strategy.

I have a feeling that her and Ichigo are going to have to back each other up/ save each other's lives alot.

Oh, just you wait. :)

I also get the feeling that Orihimi is going to play an important role of somesort... maybe Ichigo might start to fall for her a little. I dunno. It's enough to keep me curious and watching.

.... Er, keep waiting. But don't hold your breath on the romance. At this point, Orihime is more likely to hook up with Chizuru (her flaming lesbian friend) than Ichigo.

I'll be blunt, DBZ is more romantic than Bleach is at this point. The only hints of romance that have popped up in Bleach as of the end of the last story arc involve characters that haven't shown up in the Adult Swim episodes at this point. Ichigo has yet to show any romantic feelings toward anyone. He's as likely to end up with Chad as he is with Orihime or Rukia.

[Kagura]

The Hollow(Gran Fisher) killed her. Unless I'm wrong.


[About One Piece, 4Kids rapped the show. They have ZERO respect for anime.]

Thanks for filling me in alittle. Could anyone else tell me what has happened in the past 2 episodes of Bleach?

Oh, by the way I havent seen any real hint of romance on Bleach yet. I dont think Ichigo likes anyone that way yet.

[Levon]

Kon is in love with Rukia, theres your romance :P

[crow-kun]

There was one scene when Ichigo made this, "Please Rukia make it, I need you" look. But that might be just me.

[Kagura]

There was one scene when Ichigo made this, "Please Rukia make it, I need you" look. But that might be just me.

Well, I guess that could be some romance. But I'm not too sure about that. Its just a little too early I think to tell.

[Lord Timaeus]

There was one scene when Ichigo made this, "Please Rukia make it, I need you" look. But that might be just me.

What episode was that? If it was from the Bount filler arc, then I'd hardly say it counts.

And Kon loves every young woman he can get his hands on, not just Rukia.

[crow-kun]

What episode was that? If it was from the Bount filler arc, then I'd hardly say it counts.It was in the manga.Rukia got impaled by Grimmjow and when she was being healed by Orhime he was making that look. I haven't watch many of the filler.

[Lord Timaeus]

I'd hardly consider facial expressions as canon for pairings, even though I do support Ichigo/Rukia.

[crow-kun]

I'd hardly consider facial expressions as canon for pairings, even though I do support Ichigo/Rukia.
You haven't seen the look that's why.

[Lord Timaeus]

Actually, I have. And I stand by my previous statement.

Wait until one confesses to the other, then I'll talk.

[crow-kun]

Meh...You just suck with reading looks than. :P :)

[Lord Timaeus]

That's actually more true than you think. ;)

[Talon]

Ichigo likes Yoruichi. You can tell by the facial expression he makes when Yoruichi reveals her true form. Also, later on when Ichigo is training for bankai, he makes the same facial expression to Yoruichi.
This is an obvious sign that Tite Kubo intended for these two to be paired.

[crow-kun]

Ichigo likes Yoruichi. You can tell by the facial expression he makes when Yoruichi reveals her true form. Also, later on when Ichigo is training for bankai, he makes the same facial expression to Yoruichi.
This is an obvious sign that Tite Kubo intended for these two to be paired.Now that's completely different. :P Ichigo is a pretty innocence guy and for something like that to happen out of the blue...... :naughty:

[Kagura]

Kon likes everyone? He is a stuffed lion teddy bear. :lol:

[Lord Timaeus]

Kon likes everyone? He is a stuffed lion teddy bear. :lol:

I never said he could take advantage of said women, did I? :P

[Kagura]

I never said he could take advantage of said women, did I? :P

NO you didn't. But it is still weird how he could still have a crush on women and stuff. :lol:

[gameoffreak8]

Of course, Kon is a perv. v_v



[About One Piece, 4Kids rapped the show. They have ZERO respect for anime.]

Indeed. I hate 4Kids very much; it's make me bored.

[HitokiriShadow]

NO you didn't. But it is still weird how he could still have a crush on women and stuff. :lol:

Not really. He is a soul (even if it was manufactured) with a male mentality, so it makes perfect sense.

[Kagura]

Not really. He is a soul (even if it was manufactured) with a male mentality, so it makes perfect sense.

Well, you are right there. It does make sense. Its just weird because he is a stuffed lion! :lol: Its funny!

[LinaLoN]

Er, keep waiting. But don't hold your breath on the romance. At this point, Orihime is more likely to hook up with Chizuru (her flaming lesbian friend) than Ichigo.

I didn't say it was definate I was just guessing. I personally don't want to see those two romantically involved because I would rather IF Ichigo EVER gets romantically involved I would rather it be with Rukia. Ichigo doesn't seem to be a lovey-dovey kinda guy anyway so seeing him like that would actually be quite creepy.


Hey does Rukia actually DO any big heavy battling later on because I'm sick of seeing her throw on some useless firework spells on the Hollows only for Ichigo to do most of the dirty work. I want to see her actually do something important.

[HitokiriShadow]

I know you were guessing, I was just saying that it probably won't happen.

Hey does Rukia actually DO any big heavy battling later on because I'm sick of seeing her throw on some useless firework spells on the Hollows only for Ichigo to do most of the dirty work. I want to see her actually do something important.

Myabe she's done some heavy hitting in battle in the manga, but she hasn't yet in the anime (as of episode 103).

[Kagura]

It would be cool if Rukia and Ichigo would get together though.

[goddessofanime]

Actually I was wondering when Rukia would actually kick some a** myself. As for pairings, it would be nice for once not to have the hero/heroine automatically fall for each other. Though I do support Ichigo/Rukia.

Ishida's a cutie.

[blackknight]

To change the conversation, I have one thing that has been puzzling me since the battle introduction of Ishida and the rest of the Quincys in general. We know that Shingami purify Hollows, either releasing the trapped souls so they may travel to Soul Society or banishing them to Hell. We also know that the Quincy destroy Hollows, thus creating an imbalance between the living world and the afterlife. Now I ask what about the others? Orohime, Sado, and Uruhara's crew are neither Shinigami, nor Quincy, yet we've had no explanation of how they defeat Hollows, whether purifying or destroying. Any thoughts, or better yet an explanation in the manga that I missed?

[Lord Timaeus]

I'm guessing they just purify Hollows; or at least Orihime does.

If I recall correctly, one of the Vizard commented that the hairpins Orihime use resemble a form of zanpakuto as he was fixing them. Even so, I have a hard time believing that only a zanpakuto is capable of purifying Hollows, as shinigami are not known to fight with just swordplay. For all we know, Chad and Orihime may just be using a form of demon magic

[Caster13]

personally a good grouping would be renji/rukia. that is if renji actually gets the nerve to say something. if you look at a lot of stuff, that is definitely possible. but rukia/ichigo seems like it would be super cheesy. but i dont think that orihime could ever be with ichigo. not a chance in hell. now the most obvious pairing, yoruichi/soifon, THAT will happen. its painfully obvious. anything involving all of the other shinigami is pure fanfic at this point.

[Lord Timaeus]

personally a good grouping would be renji/rukia. that is if renji actually gets the nerve to say something. if you look at a lot of stuff, that is definitely possible. but rukia/ichigo seems like it would be super cheesy. but i dont think that orihime could ever be with ichigo. not a chance in hell. now the most obvious pairing, yoruichi/soifon, THAT will happen. its painfully obvious. anything involving all of the other shinigami is pure fanfic at this point.

It's not canon unless there's actual evidence that supports it. And by evidence, I mean action or dialogue that actually confirms the character's feelings for one another, not simply hints that merely suggest it.

Sadly, the story IS seeming to lean toward Ichigo/Orihime based on the latest chapters of the manga, where Orihime nearly kissed an unconscious Ichigo before being kidnapped. Still, we can't judge this pairing just yet, since Ichigo's feelings for her are unconfirmed.

[Talon]

personally a good grouping would be renji/rukia.

Ewwwwwwwww.

My predictions:
1. Rukia dies and Ichigo ends up with Orihime
2. Orihime dies and Ichigo ends up with Rukia.
3. They both die and Ichigo ends up with Yoruichi.

My vote goes to 3. :)

[Lord Timaeus]

Ewwwwwwwww.

My predictions:
1. Rukia dies and Ichigo ends up with Orihime
2. Orihime dies and Ichigo ends up with Rukia.
3. They both die and Ichigo ends up with Yoruichi.

My vote goes to 3. :)

Nobody dies in Bleach.

[goddessofanime]

Actually from what little I've read the manga (I need to start reading this now), I always got the impression that Ishida and Orihime sort of hook up.

[regus 5000]

so how close is this filler arch from ending

[Kagura]

I thought that they purified the good hollows and sent the bad ones to he**.

[HitokiriShadow]

so how close is this filler arch from ending

I'm guessing the Bounto stuff will end in another 5 or 6 episodes, just in time for the next anime season. They've been offing filler characters at a pretty good pace recently (3 Bounto in 4 episodes).

[Talon]

Nobody dies in Bleach.
No, they do. Trust me :)

[Caster13]

Actually from what little I've read the manga (I need to start reading this now), I always got the impression that Ishida and Orihime sort of hook up.

no way. ive seen the anime up until the bounto arch, which im a little in on, and the only thing ive ever seen would be like ishida being protective of orihime when that flying sword guy was there, the 12th company captain mayuri (cant spell last name), and him being shy around her, like TWICE. it may hint a little bit, but when looking at the characters....NO.

3. They both die and Ichigo ends up with Yoruichi.

those kinds of events leading up to it would need enough twists in the plot to take up over 100 episodes.

[Kagura]

Wow! From the way things are going on in Bleach on Adult Swim right now I thought that no one is gonna die on it.

[EmberAlchemist0]

Just had to say that I've really been enjoying Bleach lately. So two thumbs up to it.

[Kagura]

I wish I would stop missing episodes! I should have someone kick my butt! :lol:

[Lord Timaeus]

In a slightly related note, Orihime is a Hollow! (http://leekeatyoursoul.ytmnd.com/)

[Kagura]

I didn't know Orihime was a hollow. Are you sure about this?

[HitokiriShadow]

He's joking. Jeez, click on the link and its obvious.

[goddessofanime]

Aww...she's so adorably spazzy.

She sort of looks like Osaka from Azumanga Daioh in that picture. Ironic since the actress who voices Orihime also voiced Osaka.

[Kagura]

How many episodes are there made in the US of the anime?

[HitokiriShadow]

Er, do you mean how many have aired on TV? I think 12. I don't know how many have been "made" (by which I assume you mean are dubbed and ready to air). You would have to ask someone at Viz about that.

The first DVD is officially released tomorrow.

[Kagura]

Yeah. I was meaning how many were made altogether. Thanks. I didnt know the first volume of Bleach was being released tommorrow! Cool. Thanks. Is there a character that anyone here doesnt like from Bleach?

[HitokiriShadow]

I can't think of anyone I really dislike, but certain characters irritate me since they have done very little and seem like wasted potential at this point. Namely Orihime and Chad

[goddessofanime]

I can't say no one's annoyed me from this show yet. I like them all. Put it this way, it's been 12 episodes and I've already found some favorite characters. Now I just need to start reading the manga. With the recent anime on AS, the fact that I'm still watching after 12 episodes and hooked is a record with me.

[Kagura]

I dont really have a character that annoys me yet either. Although, Some of the characters could do more on the show and stuff.

[goddessofanime]

I guess the only character nitpick I have is Rukia not doing anything other than slapping Ichigo out of his body.

[Talon]

I don't like Renji or Aizen. The funny thing is:I disliked Aizen before I even knew he was bad.

[Lord Timaeus]

So far my least favorite character has to be Orihime. She's so moeblob it's not even funny, and has been almost completely useless thus far into the series.
And assuming she actually succeeds in unmaking the Hougyoku, she'll probably make the series even more anticlimactic by doing so.

[Kagura]

Orihime is Ichigo's sister. Right? Oh, by the way, what did you mean by what you posted above me Lord Kuroishi? I dont think I have seen that part yet.

[Levon]

I love Orihime, shes very cute & funny.

Orihime is Ichigo's sister. Right?

:uhh: What makes you say that?


Oh I see, you must have forgot who that is. Orihime is the big breasted girl.

[Lord Timaeus]

Orihime is Ichigo's sister. Right? Oh, by the way, what did you mean by what you posted above me Lord Kuroishi? I dont think I have seen that part yet.

No, unfortunately she's Ichigo's potential girlfriend. Yuzu and Karin are his sisters.

And just keep reading the manga, I don't feel like spoiling it.

[gameoffreak8]

my least favorite character is Orihime.

[Kagura]

OK. Sorry. I forgot who she was. Thanks. I take it Orihime doesnt have a real purpose on Bleach then. Right? Other than being the potential girlfriend?

[Lord Timaeus]

OK. Sorry. I forgot who she was. Thanks. I take it Orihime doesnt have a real purpose on Bleach then. Right? Other than being the potential girlfriend?

It is assumed that she'll be an important plot device in the latest manga chapters due to her healing powers, but for now, yes, she's basically useless.

[Kagura]

I never ead any Bleach manga. The stores around where I live are so lame. They dont sell any kind of manga. :( I didnt know she has healing abilities.

[Lord Timaeus]

Yeah, she gets them at around episode 13 of the anime, although she hasn't used her powers that much...

[Kagura]

I think that they are gonna show episode 13 on Adult Swim this Saturday if I am correct.

[Caster13]

kagura, if you cant find manga in your area, my suggestion would be scanlations, cause ive learned that the viz translations suck.

[goddessofanime]

I think that they are gonna show episode 13 on Adult Swim this Saturday if I am correct.

Yeah.

And I'm assuming there's a solution to Ichigo's /Ishida's 'I got a bigger one than you' fight?

[Kagura]

Kenpachi, What are scanlations? I never heard of those. Also, could someone tell me a little of what happened on last Saturday's episode? I was sick and I missed it. Thanks.

[Levon]

Its when people scan the Japanese manga & translate the Japanese text into English & distribute the scans. Sort of like fansubs.

[Kagura]

Oh OK. Does it cost anything to view those?

[Levon]

Nope. People have been known to sell them on Ebay(as well as fansubs) but thats plain wrong. They are meant to be free, just like fansubs.

[HitokiriShadow]

Though they are still illegal either way. ;)

[goddessofanime]

Buy the legal translations. They're not THAT bad.

[Caster13]

there have been worse, but when u look at some hack jobs.....it can get bad. plus id like to know what they actually say or the correct conversation and whatnot. plus the translation of terms on the side of the panels often gives an innacurate meaning to what the japanese word(s) mean, especially if you know enough of the language to see the mistake. it can get really annoying after a while.

many people like them cause they can enjoy reading the manga like it was originally intended for the fans. some manga butchery is really apparent. if you dont know, check some scans and subs for anime out. trust me, once youve seen the bleach subs, you will be cursing the dub forever.

but some people dont mind. im not completely pro subs, cause there are a lot of dubs out there that are better than the japanese seiyuu.

[Kagura]

OK well, I would like to read some of the bleach English scanlations. But I dont know where to look for them. Does anyone know of any websites that I can view them legally?

[HitokiriShadow]

You can't view scanlations legally as they are inherently illegal. Just google "bleach scanlations" and figure it out from there.

[Kagura]

OK. I wonder how long Adult Swim is going to show Bleach episodes until they start showing reruns?

[Levon]

Maybe after the first arc(20 episodes).

[Caster13]

u mean that it takes them half a year more to get to the shinigami arc? and then that arc is pretty long. and then after that, more reruns. this might turn inuyasha repeat style. hopefully it wont be on AS too long, cause bleach is gonna get really long. who knows whats gonna happen after the showdown with aizen. hopefully it doesnt turn dbz long and the series doesnt present enemies with the power of God. but i dont think tite kubo would do that.

[goddessofanime]

If that happens, then I know I'll probaly lose interest.

[Kagura]

If it gets too long I may lose interest too. But even though DBZ and Inuyasha are long, they are really really good anime! :)

[Levon]

I'm pretty sure Dorothy Melendrez voices Shun'o. At ANN it says another VA does but ANN has been wrong before(they say Michelle Ruff voices Yuzu but thats wrong).

[goddessofanime]

So...regarding last night's epsidoe:

Ichigo in Soul Reaper mode has his sword, as does Rukia when she's in SR mode.

Chad has his Arm

Ishida is an archer.

And Orihime has little fairies that live in her barrettes. Okaaaaaaaaaaaay then. The whole healing thing is somewhat cool, but girlfriend kind of got the short end of the stick when they were handing out powers.

[crow-kun]

So...regarding last night's epsidoe:

Ichigo in Soul Reaper mode has his sword, as does Rukia when she's in SR mode.

Chad has his Arm

Ishida is an archer.

And Orihime has little fairies that live in her barrettes. Okaaaaaaaaaaaay then. The whole healing thing is somewhat cool, but girlfriend kind of got the short end of the stick when they were handing out powers.Actually Orhime's powers are a lot more dangerous then you think.

[Levon]

And Orihime has little fairies that live in her barrettes. Okaaaaaaaaaaaay then. The whole healing thing is somewhat cool, but girlfriend kind of got the short end of the stick when they were handing out powers.

Diddn't you see the part where she cut that hollow in half?-_-; How is that not cool?

[goddessofanime]

Yeah I did see that. I actually watched this episode online since I was too tired to watch AS's version last night.

Somehow though...Orihime having fairies sort of makes sense. Plus I wrote my post at 4 in the morning so I was not making sense.

I didn't see the preview online though...I take it next week Ichigo and Ishida have it out?

[Kagura]

How were you able to view last nights episode online?Is it in Adult Swims the FIX?

[HitokiriShadow]

How were you able to view last nights episode online?Is it in Adult Swims the FIX?

Google the word "fansub". Wikipedia might work too.

Diddn't you see the part where she cut that hollow in half?-_-; How is that not cool?

Too bad she hasn't been that cool since (in the anime at least).

[Levon]

Too bad she hasn't been that cool since (in the anime at least).

We havn't really seen her fight again that I remember. I think she just uses the shield.

[goddessofanime]

How were you able to view last nights episode online?Is it in Adult Swims the FIX?


I saw it on a site that begins with a y and ends with an e. But it was the subtitles anyway.

[Kagura]

OK. Thanks. I'll try Googling fansub tommorrow to see if I can find it.

[Chef Wun]

Curretly the best Bleach fansubber about is Dattebayo. Google that for his Bittorrent page.

[Kagura]

OK. I guess I could do that too. Thanks! Does anyone have any more suggestions?

[cloudclone001]

try youtube. they have baisically every episode and all subbed.

[Levon]

youtube

Sucks badly.

[Kagura]

Really? Does youtube suck?

[Levon]

If you wanna watch short clips or music videos its fine.

However, watching episodes is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Watching crappy quality streaming video thats split into parts. Ah!! It makes me cringe. It sounds like something we used to do years ago, streaming video<_<

[Kagura]

Yuck. Then it does suck! I like to watch an episode the whole way through no parts and crap!

[Chef Wun]

Some people on YouTube pay for a director account so they can upload full episodes but they're always naff quality, i've never had a problem with waiting 30 mins for a bittorrent download thats high quality, full screen and unbroken.

[Caster13]

i watch youtube cause its faster to get, cause i am very much behind the series. unfortunately the manga on there can be hard to read in some parts. and i dont really care about streaming video. once i catch up to where the manga is now, ill start d-loading. and im not watching the fillers. the canon is ridiculously better.

[goddessofanime]

Some people on YouTube pay for a director account so they can upload full episodes but they're always naff quality, i've never had a problem with waiting 30 mins for a bittorrent download thats high quality, full screen and unbroken.

Guess I'm a freak but I never had too much of a problem watching stuff on youtube. Besides, if I download on bittorrent, it'll crash my sh*tty computer.

Just out of boredom I just started watching the Bounto arc (I think it starts at ep 71?). Wow....really thought Ishida was a goner. And in 72, the water in the hospital creeped me out. On a lighter note, Uryuu-kun totally has it bad on the lady Bounto, does he?

[Levon]

I have a REALLY bad computer and µTorrent never crashes my computer. Although in the past when I used other torrent programs I had that problem. Use µTorrent if you don't already.

[HitokiriShadow]

Just out of boredom I just started watching the Bounto arc (I think it starts at ep 71?).

Eh, it depends on whether you consider the stuff with the dolls to be part of the Bounto arc. I would consider the Doll stuff to be part of the Bouto arc just like I consider the Android stuff to be part of the Cell saga in DBZ.

Wow....really thought Ishida was a goner. And in 72, the water in the hospital creeped me out. On a lighter note, Uryuu-kun totally has it bad on the lady Bounto, does he?

It's all filler episodes (not based on the manga) so nothing of consequence is going to happen because they can't interfere with the manga continuity. None of the characters from previous arcs are going to bite it during the filler episodes.

[Kagura]

Does those sites cause a computer to freeze?

[HitokiriShadow]

If they did, people wouldn't be using them. :)

Of course, if your computer is overloaded from doing to many things, it could happen, but that wouldn't exactly be the site's fault.

[LinaLoN]

And Orihime has little fairies that live in her barrettes. Okaaaaaaaaaaaay then. The whole healing thing is somewhat cool, but girlfriend kind of got the short end of the stick when they were handing out powers.

That has to be THE most girliest things EVER! I was like FAIRIES! Give me a BREAK! I LOVED the transformation sequence and I thought "All right Orihime is going to come out wearing a cool outift and kicking butt" then I saw the fairies and nearly fell onto the floor in dissapointment. I can see that potentially with being able to heal people, protect people and tear people apart that she could be considered to be pretty powerful but come on! At least make them warlocks, trolls, heck even something out of Lord of the Rings would be better. I guess Princess Orihime is just too girly for something like that... this coming from me being a girl.

That sucks about Rukia not getting in much of the action! She probably could've kicked major @$$ if her powers weren't sucked away by Ichigo! She used to before... even that guy with the arrows seemed to act like she would've been a match for him.

[Chef Wun]

Orihime's Powers are strong in what they are, where they come from really doesn't make a differene. I mean Urahara is a former captain but his Weapon is hidden in a walking stick!

By the way "That guy with the Arrows" is Uryuu Ishida, get used to him coz' he's going to become a very important chracter soon, well moderatley important, well not very important.

Rukia is moderatley powerful, she's a Vice-Captain level Shinigami but we don't see that till she reveals her Shikai in chapter 201

[HitokiriShadow]

It looks like she reveals her Shikai in the movie as well, based on the footage from the opening of episode 106.

[LordGdawg]

spoilers spoilers spoilers why can't people put up spoiler warnings.

[HitokiriShadow]

The fact that she has one isn't a spoiler. Saying what it is could be, though you get an idea just by watching the opening animation of episode 106.

[goddessofanime]

That has to be THE most girliest things EVER! I was like FAIRIES! Give me a BREAK! I LOVED the transformation sequence and I thought "All right Orihime is going to come out wearing a cool outift and kicking butt" then I saw the fairies and nearly fell onto the floor in dissapointment. I can see that potentially with being able to heal people, protect people and tear people apart that she could be considered to be pretty powerful but come on! At least make them warlocks, trolls, heck even something out of Lord of the Rings would be better. I guess Princess Orihime is just too girly for something like that... this coming from me being a girl.

That sucks about Rukia not getting in much of the action! She probably could've kicked major @$$ if her powers weren't sucked away by Ichigo! She used to before... even that guy with the arrows seemed to act like she would've been a match for him.


It just seemed out of whack compared to the others powers; not that I can't picture Orihime working a sword or shooting arrows, but still.....fairies? But whatever...it actually kind of fits her in way. And I'm a girl too. At least Chad has his arm of Power or whatever it is. But man, I'd want to kick arse with a sword.

Boy does this show remind me of Buffy more and more. I"m betting somewhere down the road though Orihime goes dark. That would be cool.

Ishida, from what I've seen and read, figured out whom Rukia and Ichigo were due to spirit energy. As said, he eventually becomes part of the gang. I like him though; he's a good foil for Ichigo and he's complicated.

[Kagura]

How did Orihime get that power? Those Fairies?

[Lord Timaeus]

How did Orihime get that power? Those Fairies?

According to Urahara, Ichigo has so much spirit energy, it spreaded toward many of the people around him, causing them to become spiritually aware themselves.

[Kagura]

Whoa! Thats interesting to hear! Thanks Lord Kuroishi! Wow. He must sure have the power!

[goddessofanime]

Great episode last night, but why the hell did Uryuu have the zanpatkou on this head?

My oh my the yaoi was off the charts last night...

[Kagura]

Oh Sh*t. I had to miss that episode too. See what I missed out on! ANyhow, who did the yaoi involve? Also, what in the world is zanpatkou?

[HitokiriShadow]

The shinigami swords are called zanpakutou. There was no yaoi. Go watch Naruto for your yaoi.

[goddessofanime]

Oh Sh*t. I had to miss that episode too. See what I missed out on! ANyhow, who did the yaoi involve? Also, what in the world is zanpatkou?

1. what Hitokiri said about the zanpatkou. For some reason, Ishida had it tied to his head while *****ing at Ichigo for not knowing how to rein his spiritual energy.

2. Not actual yaoi but Ichigo and Ishida were yelling at each other like an old married couple. Hey I thought it was funny.

[Caster13]

the only yaoi thing in bleach is Aizen being gay. chizuru is just a dike, and soifon is gay for yoruichi (who is a girl, for those who arent on track yet)

[goddessofanime]

And you know this because.....?

Off topic: Hey when does Yoriuchi come in? She's in the OP in her cat form.

[Caster13]

it happens toward the end of the soul society arc. and i want the fillers over with, and i want more bleach manga chapters!

[earsofdoom]

And you know this because.....?

Off topic: Hey when does Yoriuchi come in? She's in the OP in her cat form.

She'll come in and be the "cat" for at episode 30 or so, its several episodes until you actually see her human form. On a side note were are ppl getting Soi haveing a thing for her from?

The shinigami swords are called zanpakutou. There was no yaoi. Go watch Naruto for your yaoi.

:lol: peaple hate naruto so much (so do I, what kinda ninja sucks at stealth and goes around in bright orange?)

And as for the filler It ends next episode with Keriya's death. (maybe a recap episode after i dunno.)

[Kagura]

I am not that big of a fan of Naruto myself.

Thanks everyone for telling me that stuff. So, are the recent episodes fillers?

[HitokiriShadow]

I am not that big of a fan of Naruto myself.

Thanks everyone for telling me that stuff. So, are the recent episodes fillers?

The ones in Japan have been. The U.S. ones are not. You have a long way to go before the you hit filler if you are watching the U.S. episodes. I believe episode 65 was the first filler episode.

And as for the filler It ends next episode with Keriya's death. (maybe a recap episode after i dunno.)

It looks like 109 might be a recap episode and 110 may start up the main story again.

[goddessofanime]

I only watched up to when the woman Ishida liked was killed.

[earsofdoom]

I only watched up to when the woman Ishida liked was killed.

I tell ya, Ishida has it the absolute WORST in Bleach. There are some cool captain fights later on in the filler though which are worth watching.

[Lord Timaeus]

I tell ya, Ishida has it the absolute WORST in Bleach.

OBJECTION!

Hinamori gets stabbed in the back by Aizen more than a turkey on Thanksgiving, and she STILL acts like a loyal ****** to her backstabbing master.

*Literally

[Kagura]

Thanks. I was hoping that they weren't showing fillers already. Fillers can sometimes be annoying.

[HitokiriShadow]

I tell ya, Ishida has it the absolute WORST in Bleach. There are some cool captain fights later on in the filler though which are worth watching.

Too bad they didn't put more time into those. They dragged the earlier filler fights out for two to three episodes, and the captain fights are all given one episode each. Ishida actually had the best fights in the filler, IMO. Yoroichi's was pretty good, albeit too quick.

[Caster13]

yea hinomori went nuts. and now Orihime has actually become quite usefull, like being able to reverse time so that the hougyoku doesnt exist. that woman needs serious therapy, and i mean the harsh kind. let urahara have a try. that might work...

[Kagura]

Wow. So Orihime has another power then right?

[Caster13]

no actually it isnt healing at all. its the ability to reverse events that have happened to an object. in short, canceling out what fate has decided to happen, and thus, as Aizen puts it "venturing into the realm of God" and challenging it. so she is sooooooooo not useless.

[Kagura]

Thanks. I guess she is really useful then after all! :)

[goddessofanime]

Re: Last night's Ep.

Chizuru: Give it to me Orihime!

Tatsuki punches her

Chizuru: Not exactly what I had in mind...

And Ishida turning Kon into a pretty princess dolly will never get old...hehe...

[Kagura]

:lol: Now Kon is a girly doll! Wow. I really wish I would have seen that! :lol:

[Talon]

I can't wait to see the Don Kanonji episodes dubbed. That'll be a laugh. I think Kon's english voice is great for comical scenes but Kanonji on the other hand was only funny in japanese because he tried to pronounce english words alot IMO.

[goddessofanime]

AS already showed the one where Don Kanojii had his show at the hospital and Ichigo and Rukia went there to stop it.

[Caster13]

he wont be funny in the dub anymore, just an incredibly stupid flamer(cause of clothes)

[Levon]

I thought the English voice of Don Kanojii sounded a lot like his Japanese voice.

The silly character is what makes him funny, not the fact that he uses foreign words in his dialog.

Does that mean he isn't funny in the manga?

[Talon]

Does that mean he isn't funny in the manga?

Yes it does. I didn't think he was that funny in the manga. What always had me laughing was how he would say random english words and sound like a total lunatic while saying them. That is a part of what makes the character Don Kanonji silly. Without it he is only half as silly, and thus half as funny.

But even so, the Karakura rangers episodes will be funny to watch dubbed. Kon always makes me laugh with his hilarious facial expressions.

[Ejinathan]

good that the fillers are almost done(even if it looked a so important story about those Bounto's), but there's kind of a problem. You know there will be a bleach movie launched this mounth in japan and also the game bleach wii euuhmm.... the movie is something that's only in the manga and totally not yet in the anime. Those people got seriouse probs here :p. and prolly will end to catastrophe :D.

[Kagura]

What do you mean by it may end in catastrophe??

[gameoffreak8]

According to Bleach 7:
FILLERS ARE ENDING!?
Some solid evidence is beginning to surface that is supporting the rumor that the fillers are indeed ending soon. While the validity of the episode 110 title remains unconfirmed, some information has appeared in a scan from last week's Weekly Shounen Jump (the magazine where Bleach is serialized). In this scan from the Anikichi section of Jump, it states that, "the arrancar will rush in" on January 10th. We will update as more information is revealed.

I hope it's true. :)

[Caster13]

it better be. the parts with the arrancar are even better than the soul society arc. i havent been watching the fillers, but i wanna see this. i was surprised how powerful Rukia actually is.

also, i have a theorysince soul reaper powers improve in the soul society, and since ichigo has become part hollow, then wont he be able to maintain his hollow form for a lot longer in Hueco Mundo (hollow realm), if not constantly?. we'll just have to wait a bit longer in the manga to find out.

[Talon]

since soul reaper powers improve in the soul society, and since ichigo has become part hollow, then wont he be able to maintain his hollow form for a lot longer in Hueco Mundo (hollow realm), if not constantly?

Thats a scary thought. It would be even scarier if
the hollow inside Ichigo took control again and fought against all his friends.

[Kagura]

That would be scary!!

[Kali-chan]

i've only seen up to the point where
Rukia's brother and that other guy come to arrest her, Ishida and Ichigo are (I think) defending her
which ep is that? and can I expect it to get more interesting than it is? i only started watching it when Gundam Seed was taken off air where i am,(grrrrrrrr) and it kinda confuses me, but i do enjoy it, don't get me wrong... one question, what's the big deal with Menos Grandé(sp?)? i really didn't get that, but if its revealed later in the series, could you let me know? I only know that he's really powerful... kinda obvious... thanks

[goddessofanime]

That's got to be episode 16 right? All I remember from the manga is that Ishida tries to fight off the brother and Renji.

[Tiran]

The menos, if following the anime are only just about to become really important to the plot, I couldn't spoil you if I wanted to, though manga readers could.

[Chef Wun]

Fillers end tonight, and does anyone think that
Kariya's death wasn't as dramatic as it should have been, i mean he just pooofed the others looked a bit cooler

[Caster13]

HA! WE ENDED BEFORE NARUTO!!! and with sooooo much less episodes. proving that BLEACH owns Naruto in almost every way. cept the size of the fanbase. but we're giving it a run for its money, well at least until the fillers end for that.........oh crap. talk about an explosion:crybaby:

[Lord Timaeus]

You do realize that the new manga-based episodes will probably only last 20-30 episodes until the series goes into filler hell again, right? That is assuming the Hueco Mundo arc in the current manga doesn't end before then.

[HitokiriShadow]

That's been my concern. While I haven't read the scanlations (only the Viz release) I know there are about 80 chapters currenty available to animate. The SS arc burned through chapters like nothing. Volume 15 of the manga was covered in about two episodes of the anime. While the manga will continue to progress as the anime does, it probably won't be fast enough unless they really drag things out in some way or another. The anime will probably catch up to the current point in the manga in no more than 35 episodes, and I think that is being really generous.

[goddessofanime]

Yeah what's up with that? * found a site that features manga translations*

Have they all been captured by Hollows or something?

As long as nothing happens to my favorite archer, all is well.

[HitokiriShadow]

If you are talking about scanlations, use spoiler tags and say its about the manga. Some of us are not reading the scans and would like to remain unspoiled.

[goddessofanime]

Oops..gomen.

Wasn't thinking. Sorry.

[Lord Timaeus]

Yeah what's up with that? * found a site that features manga translations*

Have they all been captured by Hollows or something?

As long as nothing happens to my favorite archer, all is well.

The only one who's captured by the arrancar is Orihime. The rest of the Scoobies are simply trying to rescue her. So basically the latest manga arc is copypasta of the Soul Society arc.

[gameoffreak8]

I am reading scanlations so I don't worry to look on the spoiler. :)
I can't wait to watch Arrancar arc. I am looking forward to watch Isshin Kurosaki battle against Grand Fisher and Grimmjow Jaggerjack vs. Ichigo Kurosaki.

The only one who's captured by the arrancar is Orihime. The rest of the Scoobies are simply trying to rescue her. So basically the latest manga arc is copypasta of the Soul Society arc.

Ditto.

[Kagura]

I can't wait to see the next episode of Bleach Saturday! Last Saturday's episode was a good one! :)

[goddessofanime]

Best excuse ever: "I was out shopping at my favorite sewing store shopping for needles when I just HAPPENED to hear your confronation..."

[earsofdoom]

Best excuse ever: "I was out shopping at my favorite sewing store shopping for needles when I just HAPPENED to hear your confronation..."

Poor Ishida.... i can only imagine the poor guys attempt at Pick-up lines.

[goddessofanime]

At least he gets cooler in the Soul Society arc. But I still think he's a cutie anyway, despite his geekiness.


But I felt bad for him though when he grabbed Rukia's leg and begged her not to go.

[Kagura]

He is pretty cool looking! :)

[Caster13]

yea he would have bad pick-up lines. his personallity is just not girl material.....well actually except Mizuiro, who can get girls of any age by barely even trying, nobody in Bleach is girl material. STRAIGHT girl material. remember Chizuru?

but seriously, Mizuiro is a master of picking up girls. Keigo made him do that one pose and face at the hospital where Kanonji was, and the older girls went at him like fresh meat. He went to hawaii with his GF and 9 of her friends. he's famous at the school for two things. One is his ability to get tons of older women, and the other is his money, which pales in comparison.

other than that, Ichigo got Orihime to fall for him. but shes only one girl, and Ichigo is a total idiot for not realizing anything. Mizuiro has gotten so many more. so its either one set of huge boobs....or tons of hot older women....i choose door number 2.

[goddessofanime]

Which one is he? I know who Keigo is...

Is he the one who remarked on how Ichigo and Uryu are alike?

As for picking up girls...hey it's not like Bleach is that type of show anyway. But out of all of them, Ishida seems to be the type to be a gentleman due to how he was raised, compared to Ichigo, who's cute but dense.

But I'm prejudiced anyway...:P Hell, Renji's older than the lot of them and is a an idiot too..

[Caster13]

yea he needs to grow some cahones and say something to Rukia dammit.

mizuiro is the short one with the black hair whos always around Keigo.

[goddessofanime]

Ahhh.. ok. Thought so.

Wait a minute....Renji likes Rukia? Apparently I missed something while surfing and watching random episodes.

[Lord Timaeus]

Ahhh.. ok. Thought so.

Wait a minute....Renji likes Rukia? Apparently I missed something while surfing and watching random episodes.

It gets really obvious during the Soul Society arc, but I doubt it's anything beyond friendship at this point.

On the other hand, since the story is leaning toward Ichigo/Orihime now, the Renji/Rukia pairing may be more plausible than one may think.

[goddessofanime]

Actually I'd rather see those pairings anyway. And bring in a cute shinigami or Quincy for my boy Ishida.

[Lord Timaeus]

Actually I'd rather see those pairings anyway. And bring in a cute shinigami or Quincy for my boy Ishida.

FURUBA4EVER already did that in the late Destiny High RPG... although it's obviously not canon.

And seeing as how I think of Orihime as nothing more than a moé blob and always will, I'm much too biased against Ichigo/Orihime. I'd hope Aizen kills her, but the fundamental rule is the no one dies in Bleach.

[Kagura]

In a way seeing no one ever seems to die in Bleach, that makes the anime a little on the downside. BUt, I really like it anyway!

[Cow]

If your referring to the anime which I stopped watching after the Soul Society arc (I don't watch fillers). I completely agree, there are plenty of people that should of died, but did not.

[Kagura]

Yes. I am referring to the anime. I think someone should die on there sometime. They are making the anime seem like everyone is immortal or something.

[Cow]

Hinamori should of died, that would add to Toshirou's character.

[Kagura]

True. I have to wonder why doesn't anyone ever die on there? A person is not immortal.

[blackknight]

One thing that's been bugging me in the manga.

When Rukia was taken back to Soul Society, Uruhara forced Ichigo to train with him, because going in half-cocked was suicide. Why, then, did Uruhara not restrain them from entering Heuco Mundo? Ichigo hadn't gotten any stronger since his battle with one-armed Grim*insert sound here*, and yet Uruhara let him go on his merry way into the home of the Hollows, where, if it works like Soul Society, the Hollows become stronger.

Any thoughts?

[Kagura]

That is strange.

[Cow]

While its not stated I think we have to assume he keeps training in his
massive manga spoilers
Hollow Form.

[Kagura]

You may be right, Cow.

[Cow]

he is involved with that group now anyway. ALTHOUGH ICHIGO IS THE WEAKEST LOL.