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Defiled one
09.21.2006, 11:55 AM
I have searched wikipedia but, unfortunatly it had few information concerning what I was seeking...

In the year 1543... there were records of Europeans discovering Japan..but very few details concerning the shock of cultures..mostly based in commerce than interaction..."Nanban"

So what I was seeking was more.. of their relation with the Portuguese Culture in the renaissance age...the style of life and social relations...that they had beside the commerce..Wikipedia lacks that part...

Leader Desslock
09.21.2006, 12:25 PM
So what I was seeking was more.. of their relation with the Portuguese Culture in the mediavel ages..
I could be wrong, but I don't believe that the Portugese had contact with Japan in the Middle Ages. They didn't establish trade until the mid 1500's, which would be after the medieval period.

...or are you talking about cultural interchanges between Europe and Japan during the Renaissance?

Defiled one
09.21.2006, 12:33 PM
yes...in the age of 1543..and afterwards...at least that was the year that wikipedia put.

Mikadzuki Tatsu
09.21.2006, 02:28 PM
The Portuguese landed in Japan during a time when most of Europe was competing for trading opportunities, and when each country wanted to be wealthier than its neighbor. The Portuguese traders were not interested in sharing cultures with the Japanese; they were interested solely in making a profit from Japanese goods.

The traders were accompanied by missionaries who sought to spread the word of Christ among the "civilized barbarians" (although the Portuguese were impressed with the sophistication of Japanese civilization, remember that this was a time when Christians believed that anyone who was not Christian was a barbarian who needed to be saved), but religion was really the only aspect of European culture that was "shared" with the Japanese people, and Christianity was repeatedly banned in Japan until it was finally exterminated in the 17th century.

Ageha
09.21.2006, 03:12 PM
Well, searching for an article on "Dejima" led me to "History of Japanese Seclusion", which, from the Muromachi snippet led me to "Christianity in Japan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirishitan)"...and in the links on that page got to Nanban Trade Period (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanban_trade_period), which might have what you're looking for. Admittedly, I didn't look closely, just saw such headings as "European accounts of Japan" and "Technological and cultural exchanges"....so I hope this is what you want or, at the least, steers you in a better direction.

Matsu'o Tsurayaba
09.21.2006, 05:29 PM
Well,it may be out of contrast.But i know that America`s first contact with Japan was in the year 1869 or was it 1863 with the trade voyage mission with Commodore Perry.

Mikadzuki Tatsu
09.21.2006, 05:40 PM
Well,it may be out of contrast.But i know that America`s first contact with Japan was in the year 1869 or was it 1863 with the trade voyage mission with Commodore Perry.
Actually, I think Matthew Commodore landed in Japan in 1854 of 1856. And it was his party's forcing the shogun to sign a trade agreement that disadvantaged the Japanese (a technique that all the European powers imitated) that I believe triggered the rebellious feelings that eventually led to the Meiji Revolution.

Leader Desslock
09.21.2006, 05:40 PM
But i know that America`s first contact with Japan was in the year 1869 or was it 1863 with the trade voyage mission with Commodore Perry.
You need to study harder in History class.

ablo
09.21.2006, 06:35 PM
It was 1853.

gyizpe
09.21.2006, 06:37 PM
Admiral Perry reported about his adventure in Japan
http://www.amazon.com/Commodore--Opening-Japan-Expedition/dp/1845880269/sr=1-1/qid=1158886297/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-3333188-5169762?ie=UTF8&s=books

Also the western several diplomats wrote their experiences and impressions in their reminiscences about Japanese society and culture in 18th century.
They are the nice reports of the days that old Japan met western except a few Dutch merchants.
http://www.amazon.com/Capital-Tycoon-Narrative-Residence-Japan/dp/1402162286/sr=8-1/qid=1158886482/ref=sr_1_1/104-0145586-4579107?ie=UTF8&s=books  
http://www.amazon.com/Diplomat-Japan-Ernest-Mason-Satow/dp/0404055613/sr=1-3/qid=1158887141/ref=sr_1_3/102-3333188-5169762?ie=UTF8&s=books

Spadesy
09.21.2006, 07:56 PM
You need to study harder in History class.

Now now, he was in the vicinity of the correct date...not everybody can be right. That's why these are discussion forums and not wikipedia articles.

Leader Desslock
09.21.2006, 08:25 PM
^ I actually wasn't talking about the date he mentioned. I was talking about "i know that America`s first contact with Japan was... with the trade voyage mission with Commodore Perry".

Um... no, that wasn't America's first contact with Japan. I'm not sure why he 'knows' this, but any search engine or decent history book could've told him differently. My first thought was that... I dunno, he took Samurai Champloo literally or something.

Defiled one
09.22.2006, 01:24 AM
This helped me greatly....althought when I realized about "These Portuguese"I became quite shocked...Mostly about the "inquisition".....Mostly what Portuguese had to offer was mainly...destructive weapons..and nothing more...

Suiko Eiji
09.22.2006, 07:24 AM
This helped me greatly....althought when I realized about "These Portuguese"I became quite shocked...Mostly about the "inquisition".....Mostly what Portuguese had to offer was mainly...destructive weapons..and nothing more...

One must also remember, that this was during the period in whcih Japan was involved in a series of civil wars. Weaponry that is more powerful than the traditional bows and arrows, spears, and swords is certainly more valuable than other luxury items, such as clocks.