Chapter 321 *spoilers*

[Nomnomnom]

Interesting Chapter.

Kakashi has proved once again his powness by creating a RASENGAN!

Gotta love Kazaku's attitude, I'm going to predict the next Akatsuki to die will be Hidan.

With every passing chapter we become more and more aware that Asuma is going to die. The bald collector pretty much gave that away.

[Denisa]

Good chapter.

Sounds like Naruto will be making another version of the rasengan and adding elements which even his dad...I mean the Fourth couldn't even do. The fanboys will scream murder because it's not new and shiny enough, but it's fine by me. As long as it gets the job done. This won't be Naruto's only training and we still haven't seen "That jutsu" yet.

But this is just cool. Jiraiya did say only four people could use it. So I guess it's Jiraiya, Naruto, Yondaime, and now Kakashi.

http://img302.imageshack.us/img302/2532/dscg3.jpg

Kazaku and Hidan don't like each other and Shika is getting bad vibes off Asuma.

My first-born to whoever colors that cover! :wub:

[crow-kun]

Damn it stop being so negative Asuma will live!!!

[u_nick]

O_O KakashiXRasengan FTW!

Cant wait to read this chapter!

[DarkNataku]

well i guess he had to know it or tried to learn it at least. i mean he was a student of the 4th. so now naruto has to combine both the form manipulation and nature manipulation to make the new jutsu

[Pariah]

I guess the combo of chakra manipulation and nature with Rasengan was inevitable, it being Naruto's secret weapon for all situations and all.

It's cool, but I would have preferred a brand new technique, I guess that makes me a fan boy huh Denisa? :P

[abomination]

My first-born to whoever colors that cover! :wub:
Sorry, 'tis a ruch job. Plus the quality of the scans obviously isn't great. I'll probably wait until higher quality scans come out and try doing it better. Cleaning it up to just this level was a pain.

A more normal atmosphere one,
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/7882/heavysmoker001normalversionqe6.png

and a more moonlit type atmosphere one. Still trying my eye at different types of atmosphere and lighting so it's not really that good.
http://img321.imageshack.us/img321/2969/heavysmoker001moonlightversionqc6.png

[Alice Catherine]

...I've been boycotting Naruto since Sasori got killed by a wimp and an old lady...
ZEY KILT ME PUPPET MAN! ZEY SHALL PAY! *dies*
Deidara's too good for Tobi. Anyways, I heard that after Asuma they're killing off Hinata.
Not that I want it to happen...I just heard it would.

[ffl]

Shouldn't have said that Denisa... now Abomination's coming your way.:P

Anyway, it was a good and interesting chapter. I enjoyed reading it, especially since it contained development for the characters. Kakashi and Naruto, Asuma and Shikamaru.

Hm.. it makes me wonder if Sasuke has managed to figure out the Rasengan yet and to actually perform it! Hehe, it should be interesting if Sasuke ever tries to use it to one-up Naruto, but... from the way things are going now... it'll be Naruto who'll one-that-up even more.

[likenewbie]

i see projectiles in naruto's future

though i'd rather naruto to train his speed dex and agi, i still think he's too clumsy

[Nano]

Yeah, I've thought that Sasuke would be able to preform "RASENGAN" as he's fought against it enough.

I was hoping for a new jutsu too, I think even though we won't see a new jutsu, we might see him using the wind in everyday moves and other wind jutsu. for example, sasuke uses electricity in his sword, which is just a bonus of being able to use electricity.

I hope we don't see Sakura crying again, it's just pointless and annoying.

[Buicovo]

I was expecting something like the 4ths body flicker. I would guess that would be a form of "wind" chakra manipulation that only the 4th could do and they would give that to Naruto. Maybe it will still happen later...cause that would be really cool.

[DarkNataku]

who knows maybe kakashi will teach naruto chidori. wonder if you could use wind elements instead of the lighting ones. but isnt rasengan already a wind type? or how about a rasengan/chidori combination they are both one handed.

[Hara!]

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f55/malomeat/untitled1eg5.jpg

At first, I abhorred ever doing this. I mean really. half the page is shika's crotch.

But I like how it ended up. Especially the face.

1 hour in Photoshop.

[Brill]

Hm.. it makes me wonder if Sasuke has managed to figure out the Rasengan yet and to actually perform it! Hehe, it should be interesting if Sasuke ever tries to use it to one-up Naruto, but... from the way things are going now... it'll be Naruto who'll one-that-up even more.

Maybe not the resengan but I think Sasuke knows how to combine the two forms of chakra as well. It explains how his chidori went all over the place when Naruto and co. tried to pick him up 30 chapters ago. So if both can do it now, who will have the advantage when they duke it out next time?

[Nomnomnom]

I think that Naruto won't be the first one to feel Sasuke's wrath when then finally meet, I'm thinking its goign to be, one of those I'll go firsts to see what he's capable of/your not ready yet so I'll fight him, things.

[Denisa]

Sorry, 'tis a ruch job. Plus the quality of the scans obviously isn't great. I'll probably wait until higher quality scans come out and try doing it better. Cleaning it up to just this level was a pain.
Those look awesome! Great job! :) The first-born will be in the mail in about 10 years.

The HQs should be out today. A lot of people are planning on coloring the Kakashi/rasengan panel.


At first, I abhorred ever doing this. I mean really. half the page is shika's crotch.

But I like how it ended up. Especially the face.

1 hour in Photoshop.
I really like the face too. First we had Sasuke's pirate outfit. Then the cover with a bent over Naruto and Kakashi behind him. Last week a nearly naked Naruto with water dripping down him. This week Shika's giant crotch. With the way things are going, next week's cover will be Kakashi and Yamato making out. Kishimoto loves his porn.

[dimithri]

Sorry I don't get it.. if Kakashi can do Rasengan how come he never used it before?
When he said "Then There would't been any point in me creating the chidori" does he mean that the chidori is more powerful than the rasengan?

[DarkNataku]

well chidori and rasengan are both different. one is nature and the other is form. maybe he thought that he could combine the 2 but it never happen.

[Alice Catherine]

...still boycotting it...

[ffl]

Sorry I don't get it.. if Kakashi can do Rasengan how come he never used it before?
When he said "Then There would't been any point in me creating the chidori" does he mean that the chidori is more powerful than the rasengan?

What he meant was that if he could've combined his elemental jutsu with the Rasengan, then he wouldn't have needed to create the Chidori. The Rasengan has no element, it is just chakra manipulation at the highest level. Kakashi probably doesn't use the Rasengan too much because he may just prefer the speed and the actual cutting that the Chidori does.

[Nano]

Yeah, Rasengan isn't leathal, but Chidori is. If you wanted to defeat and capture a powerful enemy then you would use Rasengan, if you wanted to kill him then Chidori is the one for you.

[abomination]

Those look awesome! Great job! The first-born will be in the mail in about 10 years.
Thank you but you can keep it for yourself. Don't like kids. Noisy little buggers they are. Plus, it'll save you the shipping cost.

All joking aside, there's something that confused me. Kakashi says Yondaime created the Rasengan, but I thought it was a Jiraiya original. I thought each teacher progressively taught one of their students it- Jiraiya taught it to Yondaime, Yondaime taught it to Kakashi, and Jiraiya taught it to one of Kakashi's students. So for me, Kakashi knowing the Rasengan isn't that much of a surprise. You know,like a full circle type of thing , atleast that's what I was thinking. But, I thought that it was mentioned by Jiraiya in an earlier chapter during the Tsunade arc that even the 4th had a hard time learning it ( correct me if I'm indeed wrong on that ). A teacher learning a technique thought up by his stundent seems a bit odd. I thought it was the other way around.


Oh, and Asuma's a frickin chain smoker apparently. Dude needs to lay off the cancer sticks . We knew he smoked alot 'cause he always had a cigarette in his mouth, but according to Shikamaru he has one in his mouth alot more often than not. At that rate, I'd be surprised if he doesn't already have cancer or some other illness brought on by smoking. Also, Kakashi does seem to have a way with words. I wonder how many young women of Konoha he's used his "ways with words" on ?

[Nano]

No I think Kakashi learnt it using that eye blood line he has. Which is cheating really, he's just using it now to show off.

[blackknight]

Now that it's been said that no one has successfully combined Rasengan with an element, you know for a fact Naruto's going to do it, because shonen is cheap that way.

That's all I can really say about this chapter. Kinda boring, overall.

[Suki]

Ooh. A very interesting and informative chapter.

[abomination]

No I think Kakashi learnt it using that eye blood line he has. Which is cheating really, he's just using it now to show off.

No, the Rasengan can't be copied by the Sharingan. It's nothing more than a concentrated spinning ball of chakra. All your doing is manipulating the shape of the chakra. Also, it contains no hands seals to perform to be capable of creating it. It's relying solely on the user's chakra control. Anyone could perform it if they were to go through with the necessary training. Chakra control and shape manipulation isn't that uncommon in Naruto actually. Kabuto's chakra scalpel is similar.

The Chidori on the other hand alters the nature, or element of the users chakra. In the Chidori's case it's lightning, or to be precise, electricity. That's why Kakashi says the Rasengan is incomplete. Yondaime intended to create a jutsu that was a fusion of chakra shape manipulation and his chakra element, whatever that may have been. But what would combining the rasengan with an element look and be like ?

[ffl]

Yeah, Rasengan isn't leathal, but Chidori is. If you wanted to defeat and capture a powerful enemy then you would use Rasengan, if you wanted to kill him then Chidori is the one for you.

Actually, Rasengan is lethal too. It's just that its power can controlled so that its user doesn't kill its target with it.

[DarkNataku]

any guess on what the other element is going to be. im would like to see a fire combination but with kakashi around it might turn into a lighting combo. and well he was going into the anbu squad so he needed a kill tech.

rasengan goes like this: the 4th created it, kakashi learned it, then jaraiya learned it and he taught it to naruto. well i guess that is how it goes.

[MightyDustLoop]

Uhh, maybe wind?

[Quattro Ninja]

CHidori in the hands of Kakashi>than a chidori in the hands of Sasuke, that's why Naruto could match Sasuke's Chidori with his Rsengan, and even then it didn't work that long, see end of pt1

Chidori>Rasengan

At least until Naruto creates his new jutsu.

Good chapter.

[Brill]

Yeah, Rasengan isn't leathal, but Chidori is. If you wanted to defeat and capture a powerful enemy then you would use Rasengan, if you wanted to kill him then Chidori is the one for you.

Naruto almost killed Kabuto with it, ripped all his guts out.

Chidori>Rasengan

Not true. Naruto's Resengan outperformed Sasuke's chidori on top of the hospital when they were recovering. Netiher attack is superior, just depends on the circumstances.

All joking aside, there's something that confused me. Kakashi says Yondaime created the Rasengan, but I thought it was a Jiraiya original. I thought each teacher progressively taught one of their students it- Jiraiya taught it to Yondaime, Yondaime taught it to Kakashi, and Jiraiya taught it to one of Kakashi's students. So for me, Kakashi knowing the Rasengan isn't that much of a surprise. You know,like a full circle type of thing , atleast that's what I was thinking. But, I thought that it was mentioned by Jiraiya in an earlier chapter during the Tsunade arc that even the 4th had a hard time learning it ( correct me if I'm indeed wrong on that ). A teacher learning a technique thought up by his stundent seems a bit odd. I thought it was the other way around.

Nope, that's what happened. Yondame discovered it, and Jiraiya learned the technique from him.

[Quattro Ninja]

I said Chidori used by Kakashi> greater than Rasengan.

And at the end of pt1 Sasuke's Chidori beat Naruto's Rasengan.

[Laharu]

We ever consider a great ninja being able to do something towards the effect of chidori in one hand and rasengan in the other? I mean if Kakashi knows both, do you think it could be possible for him to control one in each hand? If not him, maybe someone more powerful? Just inquiring whether or not you think it can be done if the ninja controlling it was strong enough.

[DarkNataku]

^well for chidori kakashi needs to do the hand seals and i think you need to hold it in place.

[Naster]

CHidori in the hands of Kakashi>than a chidori in the hands of Sasuke, that's why Naruto could match Sasuke's Chidori with his Rsengan, and even then it didn't work that long, see end of pt1

Chidori>Rasengan

At least until Naruto creates his new jutsu.

Good chapter.

not true.. end of pt1 naruto did what he intended to do.. had he not done that sasuke probably would have been killed.
he more or less destroyed sasuke's head protector. in my book that is a win because knowing naruto he probably went straight for it since sasuke said he would never put a scratch on it.

[ffl]

And at the end of pt1 Sasuke's Chidori beat Naruto's Rasengan.

That didn't happen. Sasuke stated it was a draw, when it was actually the Rasengan versus the Chidori. For the second match between the Rasengan and Chidori, we didn't actually get to see which was stronger, we pretty much only saw that both were once again equal. It's just that both of their hands slipped, and each hit in different spots. If Sasuke had not been wearing his forehead protector, his head would've taken severe damage from the remnants of the Rasengan.

[appletini]

the reason kakshi uses chidori is because its his element and more suited to his style of combat. i would also assume kakashis chidori is more powerful than his rasengan because it would require more chakra, which isnt one of kakashi's strong points.

[DarkNataku]

that and having his sharingan open during battle. takes a lot out of him. i wonder how many packs asuma goes through in a day. lol wonder how much they cost.

[blackknight]

That didn't happen. Sasuke stated it was a draw, when it was actually the Rasengan versus the Chidori. For the second match between the Rasengan and Chidori, we didn't actually get to see which was stronger, we pretty much only saw that both were once again equal. It's just that both of their hands slipped, and each hit in different spots. If Sasuke had not been wearing his forehead protector, his head would've taken severe damage from the remnants of the Rasengan.
You have to admit it's strange, though. As powerful as Rasengan supposedly is, do you really think that (1) it would be able to stop Rasengan and (2) Only get a small scratch across the leaf symbol? Why is that?

[ffl]

You have to admit it's strange, though. As powerful as Rasengan supposedly is, do you really think that (1) it would be able to stop Rasengan and (2) Only get a small scratch across the leaf symbol? Why is that?

I will quote myself here, and bold what is of importance to understanding it.

That didn't happen. Sasuke stated it was a draw, when it was actually the Rasengan versus the Chidori. For the second match between the Rasengan and Chidori, we didn't actually get to see which was stronger, we pretty much only saw that both were once again equal. It's just that both of their hands slipped, and each hit in different spots. If Sasuke had not been wearing his forehead protector, his head would've taken severe damage from the remnants of the Rasengan.

They were each hit with a remnant of the other's attack. Less power, less damage, less lethal.

[abomination]

Well, the thing with the Chidori versus Rasengan thing is that both can be lethal, just to varying degrees. Chidori pierces, whereas Rasengan ( at this incomplete stage ) grinds, tears or explodes. The Chidori uses up more chakra so it can't be performed for a great many number of times and is arguably more lethal than the Rasengan, but the Rasengan can be used as long as the user has enough chakra left.

With the Chidori, you're essentially piercing and even electrocuting your opponent. With the Rasengan you will grind and tear into your opponent if you push with force, where as you will blow them back with a huge force if you release the chakra on contact to create an explosion. The Chidori was designed to kill, whereas the Rasengan can kill or just severly maim, depending on the amount of chakra used and the intent of the user. But now that it is known the Rasengan is incomplete, it very well may have been intended to be like the Chidori was: designed to kill.

The Naruto and Sasuke fight shouldn't even factor into which jutsu is more powerful or lethal. The last Chidori vs. Rasengan pretty much canceled each other out and made a giant explosion, or should I say they canceled them out. The head protector scratch really means nothing regarding the two attacks. The scratch is simply symbolic for many reasons. Neither wanted to actually kill each other, they just wanted each other out so they could continue with their own goals: Sasuke to go to Oro and Naruto to bring Sasuke back. If either wanted to kill each other, they could have. Naruto canceled the Rasengan because he didn't want to kill Sasuke, and Sasuke misses on purpose so he would not become like Itachi.

[Pavan]

Is the little Debate here about wether the Chidori or Rasengan is stronger?

I think its mostly dependant on the user, ( i haven't yet read this chapter but it sounds good).

Naruto Rasengan<>Sasuke chidori.
Kakashi Rasengan>Naruto Rasengan (reading this topic)
Kakashi chidori>Sasuke chidori
Jiraiya Rasengan>Kakashi Rasengan

Ofcoarse i could be completley wrong like i usually am.

[ffl]

If either wanted to kill each other, they could have. Naruto canceled the Rasengan because he didn't want to kill Sasuke, and Sasuke misses on purpose so he would not become like Itachi.

Uh... no. Neither of them had control at that point. It was just the direction their hands continued on with after the Rasengan/Chidori clash. The majority of the power from each had already dissipated and they were only left with a fragment of the power behind each respective jutsu. Naruto didn't cancel the Rasengan, otherwise the forehead protector would not have been scratched, and Sasuke did not "miss on purpose", especially since we see his hand hit Naruto's chest.

It was when Naruto was out cold, and Sasuke was hovering over him, that Sasuke made the decision to not kill Naruto. That decision was fully his own, since Naruto had no say in it at that particular point.

[abomination]

Uh... no. Neither of them had control at that point. It was just the direction their hands continued on with after the Rasengan/Chidori clash. The majority of the power from each had already dissipated and they were only left with a fragment of the power behind each respective jutsu. Naruto didn't cancel the Rasengan, otherwise the forehead protector would not have been scratched, and Sasuke did not "miss on purpose", especially since we see his hand hit Naruto's chest.

It was when Naruto was out cold, and Sasuke was hovering over him, that Sasuke made the decision to not kill Naruto. That decision was fully his own, since Naruto had no say in it at that particular point.

I meant, not follow through with their attacks "cancel", not cancel the attack all together. Sorry if I didn't make it that clear. Neither one really followed through with their attacks. Sasuke clearly had his hand in the piercing position, but purposely changed it to a closed fist as to not kill Naruto at the final moment. Naruto was heading straight for Sasuke's forehead. If he had finished the attack, Sasuke would no longer have much of a head left. If anything, he stopped prior to Sasuke's forehead, with the chakra left in his hand scratching the forehead protector. Naruto never wanted to kill Sasuke in the first place, so it seems like he purposely was going for the forehead protector rather than another vital part of the body, all coinciding with Sasuke saying Naruto would never lay a finger on his forehead.

The decision not to kill was made prior to Naruto being out. Sasuke states " until now....this battle....from now on " while showing an image of his brother. That coincides with him not delivering a lethal blow. Granted yes, prior to that he did want to kill Naruto and did deliver a lethal blow with the Chidori, but when he saw Naruto's power and realised Naruto went through similar pain, he acknowledged themselves as equals. He realised Naruto had become a true friend, and he was not going to be like Itachi. He knew he wasn't, or couldn't kill Naruto even with him lying before him. It's when he's thinking of is brother and remembering the things he had done did he say he wasn't going to be Itachi's puppet; his toy. But Naruto did factor in to Sasuke's mentality at that moment. To get the power Itachi has, Sasuke would have to kill Naruto. Sasuke is not going to do as Itachi had done and was going to Oro to find power his own way. Naruto may not have had to say anything to affect Sasuke's decision, but Naruto did factor into that decision.

[ffl]

*shrugs* Different interpretations.

[abomination]

Exactly. I tend to over analyze everything from facial expressions to body language and read between the lines instead of take things at face value. But sometimes things are meant to be just that- taken at face value. No more, no less, no further interpretations.

I guess I'm just somewhat trivial like that.

[Jinto117]

*shrugs* Different interpretations.

Is this how things have been since I've been gone? :lol:

[ffl]

You were gone?:huh: *shrugs*

[Jinto117]

You were gone?:huh: *shrugs*

I was gone, on a long and far away journey to earn my 8th badge.

p.s. You hate me don't you ffl?

[ffl]

Nope. Don't even know you.:| Why do you ask?