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frozentech
August 30th, 2006, 01:04 AM
Can someone please clarify this for me... The Sealing Jitsu that the 4th used to seal the 9 tails fox is the same as the Jitsu 3rd Hokage used to seal orichimaro hands right.. That Jitsu requirement is that the user has to seal the opponent on his body right and the user also has to die.... then why is the 9th tail fox inside of naruto?? the 9th tailed fox should be seal in the 4th hokage's body right.. then whey is it in naruto??

Another thing is that where is naruto's family?? What clan did he came from?? And why does all his powers are similar to 4th hokages powers, why does he look so similar to the 4th hokage...

Punnchy
August 30th, 2006, 01:07 AM
No, its a differnt Jutsu that the third used to seal ochimaru's hands than that was used by Yodamine used to seal the 9 tales demon fox inside his son's body.

ryushe
August 30th, 2006, 01:20 AM
Yodamine used to seal the 9 tales demon fox inside his son's body.
Sorry, haven't been reading the manga lately. Is this a fact?

frozentech
August 30th, 2006, 01:25 AM
I beg i dis agree.. I just verified this on my naruto collection that the Demonic Soul Seal (Fuuinjutsu Shiki Fuujin) is the jutsu the 3rd used on orotchimaru is also the same with the jutsu used to seal the 9th tailed fox. So Naruto being the son of the 4th is kinda impossible.. because to use this jutsu you must seal your opponent on your own body... if you dont belive me.. read the 3rd hokage's profile on http://www.narutocentral.com/index.php?page=hokages.html

SonRyu
August 30th, 2006, 04:53 AM
Sorry, haven't been reading the manga lately. Is this a fact?Of course not, there still hasn't been any mention of who Naruto is related to, and certainly not that he is Yondaime's son. People can be as adamant as they want about Naruto being his son, until it's actually stated as fact, it's all conjecture ;)

I beg i dis agree.. I just verified this on my naruto collection that the Demonic Soul Seal (Fuuinjutsu Shiki Fuujin) is the jutsu the 3rd used on orotchimaru is also the same with the jutsu used to seal the 9th tailed fox. So Naruto being the son of the 4th is kinda impossible.. because to use this jutsu you must seal your opponent on your own body... if you dont belive me.. read the 3rd hokage's profile on http://www.narutocentral.com/index....ge=hokages.htmlThat reasoning does NOT stop Naruto from being Yondaime's son. Not saying he IS, but there's no reason he can't be.

frozentech
August 30th, 2006, 05:42 AM
Yah i get what you mean.. Im sorry wrong reason.. I just pointing out that.. its is the same jutsu.. so the 4th hokage should seal the demon fox in his own body..

u_nick
August 30th, 2006, 06:52 AM
are you reading a scan? or the actual japanese copy? if its a scan, the translator could have simply gotten the jutsu name wrong.

ffl
August 30th, 2006, 01:17 PM
so the 4th hokage should seal the demon fox in his own body..

...maybe he did...:naughty:

Nano
August 30th, 2006, 01:48 PM
...maybe he did...:naughty:

So you're saying he sealed it in his own body then some how became a newborn baby?

Isn't it possible that just how some things like the black flames can be sealed in a scroll of paper, that a human can be used as a tool, just like the scroll to seal something much greater like the nine tails?

DarkNataku
August 30th, 2006, 04:36 PM
well didnt the 3rd out of energy and the best he could do was seal oro's arms instead. and that jutsu: This jutsu, when performed, ends the lives of both the target and the user. Using this technique invokes the powers of the Death God (Shinigami), which hovers behind the user. The soul of the summoner can be seen bound to it. Upon being summoned, the Death God reaches its arm into the one who summoned it. The summoner can then use the arm to tear the soul from their intended target. Once the soul is taken, the Death God devours them both, locking the two souls in an eternal battle and preventing any possible resurrection. The user can also use the technique through clones, though their soul will be sealed, regardless.

The Third was badly wounded and near death when he performed this jutsu, and decided to seal Orochimaru's soul's arms instead of his whole soul (due to a lack of strength), making Orochimaru's arms unusable. It has been hinted that with the death of the Third, this technique is lost forever, though this is not confirmed.

^from wiki.

Nano
August 30th, 2006, 04:49 PM
well didnt the 3rd out of energy and the best he could do was seal oro's arms instead. and that jutsu: This jutsu, when performed, ends the lives of both the target and the user. Using this technique invokes the powers of the Death God (Shinigami), which hovers behind the user. The soul of the summoner can be seen bound to it. Upon being summoned, the Death God reaches its arm into the one who summoned it. The summoner can then use the arm to tear the soul from their intended target. Once the soul is taken, the Death God devours them both, locking the two souls in an eternal battle and preventing any possible resurrection. The user can also use the technique through clones, though their soul will be sealed, regardless.

The Third was badly wounded and near death when he performed this jutsu, and decided to seal Orochimaru's soul's arms instead of his whole soul (due to a lack of strength), making Orochimaru's arms unusable. It has been hinted that with the death of the Third, this technique is lost forever, though this is not confirmed.


^from wiki.
so, if they are locked in battle, then wouldn't this mean the the fourth is inside naruto too? And that Naruto will be able to use the fourths power just as he uses the nine tails?

But then again, when Naruto speaks with the nine tails we never saw the fourth anywhere, and certainly not in battle with the nine tails.

frozentech
August 30th, 2006, 09:17 PM
if think of it, All of Naruto's Power are similar to the 4th Hokages power.. So it might be possible that Naruto can use the 4th powers.. example .. mass shadow clones.. rasengan.. and summoning the giant frog....

Its possible that naruto might be connected with the 4th Hokage in some way.. Naruto might be a reincarnation of the fourth.. or even Naruto might be the 4th hokage himself... the 4th might have a very secret technique to restart life.. so instead of dying he became a baby...

These is just a theory.

Dj_Saito
August 31st, 2006, 07:40 AM
I dont think they are the same jutsu at all. Maybe similar but not the same.

soulreaper
August 31st, 2006, 04:17 PM
Its possible that naruto might be connected with the 4th Hokage in some way.. Naruto might be a reincarnation of the fourth.. or even Naruto might be the 4th hokage himself... the 4th might have a very secret technique to restart life.. so instead of dying he became a baby...

These is just a theory.

Nope, sorry. Yondaime is the leader of Akatsuki (false). He might, however, be Naruto's dad (what I believe). Although, I like that idea that the 4th is sealed inside Naruto. Maybe he's just hiding somewhere in his mind.

frozentech
September 1st, 2006, 01:33 AM
I dont think they are the same jutsu at all. Maybe similar but not the same.
as I said before its the same jutsu.. Ive have verified this on my old manga collection and my old anime collection... Its the same jutsu... try researching on it on the web.. to verify my claims..

Soluzar
September 1st, 2006, 01:38 AM
as I said before its the same jutsu.. Ive have verified this on my old manga collection and my old anime collection... Its the same jutsu... try researching on it on the web.. to verify my claims..
Then maybe there's more than one way to use it. The simple answer is that since we haven't actually seen Kyuubi get sealed, we don't know for sure how it happened.

medicman4444
September 7th, 2006, 07:34 AM
mayby they both got scealed and Kyuubi ate the 4th ^^

Danzoh Katoh
September 7th, 2006, 09:00 AM
Then maybe there's more than one way to use it. The simple answer is that since we haven't actually seen Kyuubi get sealed, we don't know for sure how it happened.

Yes, indeed.

Atriede
September 13th, 2006, 01:34 PM
Quote:Naruto might be a reincarnation of the fourth:End Quote

No he's not, Naruto is actualy the reincarnation of Chuck Norris. Fact.

medicman4444
September 13th, 2006, 01:38 PM
Quote:Naruto might be a reincarnation of the fourth:End Quote

No he's not, Naruto is actualy the reincarnation of Chuck Norris. Fact.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL ^_^

Hellsartist
September 15th, 2006, 09:53 PM
From what I know...

It is indeed the same jutsu but this justsu has a number of uses. Yes it is intended to devour both the user's and opponent's souls, but thats not all it can do. If the opponent is more powerful than the user, as the Kyubi is to Yondy, or if the user simply is to weak to carry out with the taking of his oppenents soul he can simply take part of it. So Yondy sealed Kyubi in Naruto.
Lol my point is that its the sme justsu and has a number of different uses, but to be 100% sure you'll have to ask Kishi since he created it all. That being said its IMPOSSIBLE for Yondy to be Naruto seeing as Naruto was a new born baby while yondy was still alive. As is popular its most likely Yondy's son, think about it what other child would he have quick access to, or want to be treated as a hero but his own son? But again until its stated you can't be positive, plus theres the whole Naruto's mom thing too.

Mikadzuki Tatsu
September 21st, 2006, 11:28 AM
Both the Yondaime and the Sandaime used the Dead Demon Seal to seal their opponents, but the Yondaime also used the Eight Trigams Sealing Style and the Four Symbols Seal when he sealed the kyuubi within Naruto. So, that might also be another explanation as to why the results of the two Hokage's jutsu were different.