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Leader Desslock
August 22nd, 2006, 08:46 AM
I think there's a difference between Tom's cigarette use and Joe Camel's endorsement:

Tom & Jerry in trouble in for smoking scenes

They chase each other at high speed, wielding axes and hammers. But the famous cartoon duo of Tom and Jerry are in trouble in Britain for smoking on screen.

Media regulator Ofcom received a complaint from a viewer who took offence at two episodes involving smoking.

In one, "Texas Tom," the hapless cat Tom tries to impress a feline female by rolling a cigarette, lighting it and smoking it with one hand. In the other, "Tennis Chumps," Tom's opponent in a match smokes a large cigar.

In a bulletin posted online, Ofcom noted "concerns that smoking on television may normalize smoking," and said that the Turner company, licensee for Boomerang which aired the cartoons, had agreed to edit some smoking scenes out of Tom and Jerry.

"The licensee has ... proposed editing any scenes or references in the series where smoking appeared to be condoned, acceptable, glamorized or where it might encourage imitation," Ofcom said, adding that "Texas Tom" was one such example.

But it would not cut all smoking scenes, it added.

Ofcom said it recognized smoking was more generally accepted when cartoons were produced in the 1940s, 50s and 60s, but noted that the threshold for including such scenes when the audience is predominately young should be high.

Next thing you know, the Parents Against Fireworks Use will want to edit the sticks of dynamite out of Warner Bros. cartoons. And then a parent advocacy group devoted to raising public awareness about children and traffic safety will want to edit out those scenes of the Coyote being run over by a truck. "We understand that it used to be acceptable to play in traffic in the 50's", they'll say, "but today's traffic is faster and more dangerous than it was back then. Showing kids that playing in traffic can lead to zany hijinks is sending a dangerous message."

Fobb
August 22nd, 2006, 08:51 AM
First off, is there really a Parents Against Fireworks?

Second, you probably already know that children are easily influenced. What's wrong with taking an extra step in insuring their future? It's not like the whole meaning of the cartoon is going to disappear if they edit out smoking scenes. If you want to watch them so bad get the uncut version.

Soluzar
August 22nd, 2006, 08:54 AM
I really don't know about cigarettes, but if you take the dynamite out of the classic slapstick cartoons, then you might as well just not show them at all. Tom/Wile E/Whoever getting blown up is one of the staples of the genre.

As for cigarettes, I saw cartoons with smoking in as a child, and it never did me any harm...

*takes a long puff on a stogie*

Daishikaze
August 22nd, 2006, 08:56 AM
Remember when people didn't worry about **** like this? Are we the last generation that will see these cartoons in their complete uncut format?

I'm getting tired of this crap, I grew up watching those cartoons every chance I got, I never once said to myself "hey, Tom's smoking a ciggy, maybe I should start smoking too". They already edit too much in cartoons as it is just because someone might get offended after seeing for years and years.

Screw these people, learn how to raise your children properly for crying out loud! Stop using TV as a freakin' babysitter, you lazy parents.

Bernard_Monsha
August 22nd, 2006, 09:13 AM
I am less surprised by this than by them editing the old black ladies voice to sound like she is Irish. Just wait Desslock, maybe the crew of BeBop will all be sucking Dum Dum's ala One Peice in the UK. :naughty:

Fobb
August 22nd, 2006, 09:22 AM
Remember when people didn't worry about **** like this? Are we the last generation that will see these cartoons in their complete uncut format?
Actually, I think we are. People are getting more scared (??) as time passes. It used to be you would go play in the county dump, and get a beating when you got home for ruining your good pants.

MonkeyBoy0314
August 22nd, 2006, 09:37 AM
Bruce ****enson from Iron Maiden, on the topic of mothers burning copies of his album Number of the Beast, once said "Americans tend to be over-the-top on things like that". I guess the same applies to Britain with smoking.

Man, I can't wait until I can move to Canada

Fobb
August 22nd, 2006, 09:41 AM
Bruce ****enson from Iron Maiden, on the topic of mothers burning copies of his album Number of the Beast, once said "Americans tend to be over-the-top on things like that". I guess the same applies to Britain with smoking.

Man, I can't wait until I can move to Canada
Word life. Some people retire to Florida. I'm retiring to Canada.

Rurouni Saiyan
August 22nd, 2006, 04:32 PM
Things like this reaffirm my belief that society is getting dumber and dumber with each passing day. I grew up watching these cartoons and I didn't ever have the inclination to smoke. Even the Joe Camel thing was dumb, but that's just me.

Also, if it's a mother's group, then you know it's gonna be bogus, as they're nothing but a bunch of Chicken Littles that don't know jack about jack.

At any rate, how about a little common sense, eh? I mean seriously, if such things were the case with influence, then half of my generation would be dead by now.

Samurai Drifter
August 22nd, 2006, 04:57 PM
So, smoking isn't normal in Europe now? Because I'm pretty sure that a huge amount of people there smoke like chimneys.

Evil_Koala
August 22nd, 2006, 05:06 PM
What's wrong with smoking? Tobacco built this country!

Tom and Jerry pwn. And the dynamite...Fireworks rock...Stupid Burn Ban...>_>;;;

goddessofanime
August 22nd, 2006, 05:08 PM
I'm more surprised that this is England doing this and NOT the US.

Gibb
August 22nd, 2006, 05:10 PM
I grew up **cough** watching Tom & Jerry and **hack** I turned **wheeze** out al**cough**right.

Perperikon010
August 22nd, 2006, 05:14 PM
2^ Yeah I know, Europe is not as nitpicky on smoking...or so I thought.
Personally, I think that cutting the smoking scenes is ridiculous. These are old cartoons, they include popular sterotypes of their time and should be viewed as such. Tom never came into my dreams telling me to smoke. I hope children nowadays are as resilient to these terrible, terrible influences as I was. If not, then they were a hopeless case anyway, what's a little lung cancer gonna do?

Parenting is a full-time job. Sorry folks, no vacations, and the Telly is not the best nanny either.

Daishikaze
August 22nd, 2006, 05:30 PM
England has the Dept. Of Health and Safety, which means they have to make stupid rules to cover everyone's ***** so they don't get sued everytime someone does something stupid.

Europe is slowing banning smoking in restaurants and trains and things like that, but people still smoke like chimneys.

Bernard_Monsha
August 22nd, 2006, 06:54 PM
Europe is slowing banning smoking in restaurants and trains and things like that, but people still smoke like chimneys.

That is because they do not have smokeing Nazi's like the US complete propaganda campaign.

Evil_Koala
August 22nd, 2006, 07:06 PM
That is because they do not have smokeing Nazi's like the US complete propaganda campaign.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b8/evil_koala/SmokingNazi.gif

seba_boi
August 22nd, 2006, 07:27 PM
If I was that complaining parent's kid, I would've rolled my eyes to the moon...

minmae
August 22nd, 2006, 07:30 PM
Well that's stupid. They need help. Seriously.