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[Israfel64]

New Evangelion Anime? (UPDATE)
Wednesday, August 09, 2006


The rumour mill is starting to heat up. Apparently a few months ago, a rumor that 4 new Eva movies were being made popped up. Three were to be re-edits of the series, and the fourth was to be new animation. The other day, Hideaki Anno posted a call for animators to work on a new feature at a studio named Khara. Incidentally, that same studio was just added to the copyright for Evangelion on Gainax's official website. From this, it can be suggested that Anno is making new Evangelion anime. In similar news, NewType is making claims that a big Evangelion scoop is coming up in the September issue.

Tantalizing is it not? The possibility that Hideaki Anno might be making more Evangelion?

Read s'more if you like.

http://www.gainax.co.jp/hills/anno/jobmain.html



Neon Genesis Evangelion animated into four movies?
There will be four movies, three movies with re-edited squences from TV series as well as some new sequences, the brand new fourth one. Just like the recent MS Gundam Z movies. The source for this information was kept secret, but there was a comment about a new project during the interview with Famitsu, could that be it?

http://forums.trivialbeing.net/index.php?showtopic=4157
http://d.hatena.ne.jp/moonphase/20060616/p6



On August 1, Evangelion director Hideaki Anno's official website was updated with job listings for key animators and production staff at a studio called Khara.

Meanwhile, Gainax's Evangelion site has added Khara to its copyright line. According to ANS, the Khara.co.jp domain is registered to Ikki Todoroki, with whom Anno performed in the 2005 film Naisu no mori.

ANS incorporates these items and two "rumors" to conclude an Evangelion film (or films) may be in the works. ANN cannot confirm the Evangelion connection.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/article.php?id=9318



September's Newtype Japan advertises an "extra large scoop" on Evangelion in the October issue. Whether it is related to Hideaki Anno's new project is unknown. The issue streets September 10.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/article.php?id=9320



8-7-06 (7:04AM EDT)---- New Evangelion Anime Movie(s) Coming?
One of the biggest rumors running this summer among Japanese fans online involves Studio GAINAX, presumably under the aegis of Director Hideaki Anno, re-editing and adding new animation footage to the original 1995 26 episode Evangelion TV series (ala Gundam Zeta) and releasing them as a series of new movies to Japanese theaters. So the story goes, as many as 4 movies could be produced and the 4th one may be entirely new material or may contain an entirely new ending to the Evangelion saga. A side rumor from a few months ago indicates a staff room for Evangelion was being created or renovated at GAINAX HQ. This questionable information started circulating prior to the below mentioned GAINAX search launched, looking for production and animation staff for a forthcoming Hideaki Anno directed animated film project codenamed "Color" (Khara). Those who meet the criteria are encouraged to email to joboffer(AT)khara.co.jp or call. What can be confirmed now as fact is Evangelion and project "Color" are connected and the proof can be found on GAINAX's official EVA website. At the bottom of the page, the copyright statement has added "color" (in katakana) to the Project Eva copyright information. Other twists include the following: A whois search for the domain khara.co.jp reveals it is registered to Khara Corporation. The name Todoroki Ikki is listed as registration and tech contact. It's worth noting Anno Hideaki appeared in the movies Taste of Tea and Naisu No Mori with Todoroki Ikki. Additionally, a search on GAINAX's company overview page shows the Director's name is no longer present. This is leading many to speculate "Color / Khara" could be a spinoff studio perhaps similar to Hideo Kojima's production label "Kojima Productions" or Hayao Miyazaki's private office "Ni Bariki".

http://www.animenewsservice.com/archives/augxx.htm

Wow...What could that fourth movie be? After the End of Eva? Personally I'm hoping for a GOS anime adaption.

[Defiled one]

JESUS CHRIST!!!!!!!!!!! THEY ARE TRYING TO RESSURECT IT!!!!!!?? THIS IS A SIGN OF THE APOCALIPSE!!!!

THEY ARE GONNA RIP OFF THE SERIES!!! this gives a new meaning of kicking the horse.. they are going to disenbow it!!! no..."Sobs".. no...PLEASE DONT LET THEM PUT THE SHITO XX PLEASE!!!

[neoXellos]

...hmmmm...dont jump 2 conclusions....this could be a very good thing

[Defiled one]

Yeah.... but I i dont know if i cry.. of jow or sadness...I am so confused!!! "whines like shinji"

[Defiled one]

Just one stupid remark...we are sooo f...d up..if the evas live action movies go out and then this comes out and its all sucess.. like lord of the rings stuff...WE ARE FACING A POSSIBLE 1 IMPACT IN A WORLD SCALE OF EVANGELION!!! the horror.. this might open the world to anime... no!!! a total invasion....!!! we are doomed.. or maybe no one would like it... yeah and anime would be still an outcast in europe..yeahh

if this happens, Anno literaly achieves imortality... in a sense and a place in history of arts.

[HeWhoPostsStuff]

three movies with re-edited squences from TV series as well as some new sequences
Arrgh, another "Director's Cut"...THREE of 'em! Apparently Anno's gotten wind of the fact that some of us still have money left over even after buying all the Eva crap that's out there already..."this must be fixed!"

I dunno how many more times I'm willing to pay for the same material...

[Reichu]

I dunno how many more times I'm willing to pay for the same material...
No no no, don't you see? It's NOT the same! The art will be redone from scratch! There will be new scenes! My god, it will be beautiful!

And my sardonic comment from EMF:

And, once the four movies have been released and made good sales, they'll rerelease the entire original show -- a PROPER treatment, incorporating all of the new material from the first three movies, DEATH, and then some.

:ph34r: zomg

[mooseegg1982]

Could be good, could be bad. Who knows. Guess we will just have to wait and see.

[Defiled one]

or maybe Anno is watching anime nation!!!! right now....in this section... evangelion is gonna be dissected then reiped......maybe i should start crying now and remembers the memories that i have in my childhood.. until the damm TV banned on 1995 "I think" it and i had to see it on the internet.. in the year 2000.. totaly brainwashed by the media, having no idea what anime was...grrr damm media and its inquisition

[Dr. Nick]

I'd like it to be some ALL GODDAMN NEW characters, like Diebuster compared with Gunbuster. I'm sick of the old characters, to be honest.

Diewankelion? Corpsevangelion? E-wank-edition?

But anyhow, if they make an animated version of GOS, I will LOL. Fiercely.

[Crazy Penguin]

End of Evangelion was the perfect conclusion for the series. They should just leave it alone.

[Blader5489]

And my sardonic comment from EMF:
<snip>

And then they'll rerelease that in HD! >_<

Bochan_bird, quite a while ago (I think about a year or two), said that he had sources in Gainax that implied an NGE prequel, spanning from pre-2I to a few years before episode 1, was in the works. And now we've got this new rumor about a compilation project that'll yield a brand new movie.

I can only pray that this fourth movie, if it really does (or will) exist, is a prequel to NGE. There absolutely does not need to be a sequel to EoE, nor should there be, but there's plenty of material for a prequel to be made from.

[Defiled one]

personaly how the freaking hell will they continue the series?.. the best we can expect if it is evangelion, will be some cut scenes more like shinij staring at the ceiling for more 5 minutes or misato drinking more and gendo with his pimp clothes?...of course now that Anno has fame.. at least more than the past.. he can do whatever he wants whit eva.

i mean it not like he spent 10 year preparing to make a sequal.. he was depressed when he made evangelion..it must be really hard for him.. unless he got a revelation while sleeping.

I mean...what next shinji awakes from his sleep in the beggning of the series, as a girl "fanservice, got to think of the fanservice" and gets all emo crazy and plots revenge? plus he as a whole haren of sexy angels "seen the statues.. please dont let it be related"..I mean seein kaworu as a girl would suck, although she was female and adam was also a girl.. after all how the hell he had children with if he did not have no one?

Yeah.. my mind is gonna get scrambled even more...

prequal... after all i want to see the main person behind all this. Yui-sama...

[neoXellos]

scred end of evangellion...it should have had a real ending...an ending in which everyone died because of the mess up of merging everyone into one...and which the bastards who thought up the stupid endings were sent to hell for all eternity...and i agree with u...but i must make it better...we are all gonna be f...ed up if this goes south...cuz then, ppl will think anime is all crappy.

[thewayneiac]

Hmmm....

They'd better not steal MY sequel idea when they do the 4th movie, or they'll hear from me:

http://www.animenation.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3503115&postcount=35

Heh, the infamous censorship software has misfired again since the last time I posted that. So now the third person of pass is censored? Why not the first person or the past tense?

pass
passed
p*****

[RyoTD]

Holy freaking crap!! :O

I know I shouldn't get my hopes up, but... DAMN!

[HeWhoPostsStuff]

No no no, don't you see? It's NOT the same! The art will be redone from scratch! There will be new scenes! My god, it will be beautiful!
My sarcasm-o-meter must be busted, as I'm not sure whether or not you're serious when you said the above, heh heh.

And, once the four movies have been released and made good sales, they'll rerelease the entire original show
Now THAT I believe without question. :P

[Reichu]

My sarcasm-o-meter must be busted, as I'm not sure whether or not you're serious when you said the above, heh heh.
The proliferation of exclamation marks yields the answer! ;)

Actually, it was sorta half-and-half. It all has the potential to make the fangirl in me weep in joy. My wallet is expendable. When it comes to the NGE stuff that isn't totally superfluous, it always has been. :ph34r:

I do remember the prequel rumors from way back. Yeah, I must say, if the 4th movie doesn't realize that in some way, I will fly over to Japan and become a graffiti artist. Mention anything about sequels, and Reichu booms:

http://www.evacommentary.org/images_random/backstroke_donotwant.jpg

Prequels? Yes please!!!

@ Anno: /R/ Dr. K voiced by Akira Ishida. And give the man a name already!!! Friggin' Tokita has a name!

[Magami No ER]

Hmm....everything happens even when I leave for a short while.^^;
No joke that Evangelion will live forever.
(Good? Bad? Even need? Who knows, but I don't suspect any resolution in continuity in this case. Never was an issue for other movie remakes afterall, and this series still makes people ponder oh so much....)
But I never suspected nor put much hought towards breaking the continuing merchandise line again(besides the LA, which I don't count)
NGE's joining the old anime series of old, I see....unless this is a deviation from that trend and we get a continuation/prequel. Either/or I would enjoy.

[MagicianCamille]

Hmm....everything happens even when I leave for a short while.^^;

Welcome back to America. Do you still speak the English?

As for this news, as I said in the General Anime forum, god no. =|

[Magami No ER]

^1. Yes.
2. Even if the supposed 4th movie has a different retelling instead of continuing after The End?

[MagicianCamille]

2. Even if they change the ending instead of continuing after The End?

I'd rather just have Eva die already.

Continuing after EoE and seeing Eva 01's adventures floating in space sounds like a good ol' Reichu kind of time though.

[Reichu]

I'd rather just have Eva die already.
Eva will live forever, along with the human soul inside her. Long after the Sun, the Moon, and the Earth are gone, she will remain...

Continuing after EoE and seeing Eva 01's adventures floating in space sounds like a good ol' Reichu kind of time though.
I've suggested "Yui In Spaaaaaaace!!!" as the only sequel worth having on multiple occasions, probably. ;)

Since it's taking so long to get anywhere, Yui gets bored and modifies her companion into an Infinite Improbability Drive. With an S2 Engine and the IID, she is unstoppable! Star-trekkin' chaos ensues when she activates her new toy and jumps through space to... someplace really cool.

[MagicianCamille]

Eva will live forever, along with the human soul inside her. Long after the Sun, the Moon, and the Earth are gone, she will remain...


Well, let's just hope she drifts out of range before the sun goes nova. OH! That's what the next Eva animation should be about. It could have a time limit like Yamato.

It'd just be Eva-01 drifting for 20 minutes each week.

Eva fans would eat up either way.

[Reichu]

Well, let's just hope she drifts out of range before the sun goes nova.
She wouldn't get a scratch. ;)

It'd just be Eva-01 drifting for 20 minutes each week.
Riveting TV...

[MagicianCamille]

She wouldn't get a scratch. ;)

Of course not, she'd be too busy being space dust to have any scratches!

[Defiled one]

this movies things arent related by the shitoXX... because when I saw that, i was like, were they preparing the ground for something.... they wouldnt do it!!! they wouldnt, would they?I Mean... what would be the point?

[MagicianCamille]

this movies things arent related by the shitoXX... because when I saw that, i was like, were they preparing the ground for something.... they wouldnt do it!!! they wouldnt, would they?I Mean... what would be the point?

Hurray for incoherent babbling!

[TS-Scorpio]

£7.50 nothing comes from this.

[Defiled one]

I just watched.. "end of evangelion" "twitch" 4.... times in a ROW!!! at night... with only lemon beer has my buddy and i have to say... that a prequal.. would fit perfectly.. especialy.. how the hell the red moon got there.. and Yui :P and Gendo....Damm my head hurts..not everything is bad...at least now, in a sense, I understand what happened...especialy the last part... with asuka and shinji, either i was drunk... Or i finaly got it.

Back on topic....he could remade completly the series...that would be good... and a prequal.. that also would be good... with Yui Kami-sama :P or to see the body of Adam... without the light... :P... possibly the only plausibe prequal would be of the expedition of antarctica...or when Adam :P and lilith :P got there...

[Reichu]

Now I know why ANF implemented a per-post limit on images... http://www.evacommentary.org/forums/images/smiles/trippin.gif

[Soluzar]

"I thought I had wished for that day to come, but...
Now, I am afraid."
OK, I'll bite. What is this? I recognise it, so much.

[Dr. Nick]

OK, I'll bite. What is this? I recognise it, so much.

Rei, time paradoxes, etc. (http://www.evacommentary.org/episode-25/episode-25A-scene5.html#cut169)

[Soluzar]

Rei, time paradoxes, etc. (http://www.evacommentary.org/episode-25/episode-25A-scene5.html#cut169)Oh, it really is Evangelion? I'm kinda dissapointed, I had thought it was something else. I remember it now, of course. It's been a long time since I last saw any Evangelion.

[demecowen]

The only thing I could ask from this news it that the 3 movies will shed some light on the unanswer questions of NGE that has been debated throughout the web.

As for the 4th movie I doubt it would be sequel of any kind, but more of a full lengh alternative version that was made in the last espiodes or girlfriends of steel.

[Reichu]

The only thing I could ask is that at least some of my looney theories are vindicated, so that I can point and laugh at those who had doubted my tantalizing skills of perception, and thereafter cackle, "TOLD YOU SO!!!!"

</irony>

[Defiled one]

I say and stand my foot again.. this might sound stupid but.. the 4 movie will be a prequal of the expedition to antarctica likes everybody speculates.. although nothing of much interest there... or a sequal, dealing with alternative universes...in episode 26 shinji literaly created an alternative universe.. the manga it self speaks of this alternative universe.. the only plausible sequal would be shinji from the other dimension, "the one who strangles asuka" to go there and try to avoid a 3 impact that could revert the whole universe in its very beggining.. i think that is the ultimate thing that could ever be after 3 impact.. the destruction of the universe at field it self.. a reversion....personaly that would be the only plausible sequal.. and the most logical.. since its incorporates the manga also.. but than again I am not Hideaki Anno

[Reichu]

I say and stand my foot again.. this might sound stupid but.. the 4 movie will be a prequal of the expedition to antarctica likes everybody speculates.. although nothing of much interest there...
The time frame would probably be more expansive -- i.e., what Fuyutsuki fleetingly covered in #21's flashbacks. And, "nothing of much interest" with regards to the Katsuragi Expedition? Oh ho ho, I disagree totally! It would be worth it for the Misato/Dad drama-fest alone! Not to mention all of the totally shady happenings down there, like the background of the Expedition, what they were doing to Adam, the true nature of the Contact Experiment and Second Impact, etc. etc. The immediate timeframe also involves Gendo marrying Yui, becoming a Seele member as a result, and being shipped down to Antarctica to serve as auditor for the Team (and Keel's little pet). There is a lot of material to cover.

[Defiled one]

I soo wanna see Gendo with Yui.. i bet it would be something like this.

"yes dear... no dear.. yes dear... dear we dont have meat...sorry?"

5 minutes

"gahhhh dont hit me!!! please!!! dont hit me!!!"

[Reichu]

You sorta see them together in the "possible world" sequence of #26. That seems pretty accurate, under the theoretical circumstances that the stressors of Second Impact and a world threatened by Seele were removed.

Otherwise, the only interactions between them we get in the show are:
- #20, the two flashback conversations ("if it's a boy, Shinji; if it's a girl..." and "anywhere can be heaven...")
- #26' ("She's taking her husband into herself!")

A bit more would be quite nice, though. I want to know how they fell in love, for one thing... http://www.evacommentary.org/forums/images/smiles/teary.gif

[Defiled one]

if it was a girl it would be Rei....

Yeah i have to agree, althought Gendo though he had control, but in fact his wife was the one who had control.. even today i doubt that she did not knew what would happen when she entered the plug. "baseless rumor"


no.. i wanna see Misato and her father.. plus I would really want to see how adam looked

[Reichu]

Yeah i have to agree, althought Gendo though he had control, but in fact his wife was the one who had control..
Gendo thought he had control over what? But, hmm... Yui is definitely the one "wearing the pants" in that relationship.

even today i doubt that she did not knew what would happen when she entered the plug. "baseless rumor"
It's established that she knew what would happen, and, in fact, hoped that she would go ker-sploosh and have her soul absorbed.

no.. i wanna see Misato and her father..
Probably not a pleasant sight. The hateful daughter who's been a "good girl" for far too long. A "sensitive and delicate" father who's "just a big kid". I bet she could *****-slap him around and all he'd do is cry like a little girl.

Misato "You sonuva*****!!! Why'd you have them drag me down here to this godforsaken hellhole?!? After what happened to Mother--!!"
Dr. K "... I want you to see the bright future."
Misato "Here's what I say to your 'bright future'."
>SLLLLAAAAAAP!<
Dr. K "I deserved that, lol."

If Dr. K doesn't look anything like the avatar I've had for over half a year, I will cry. (If he doesn't show up in any of the four films, I will cry even more.)

plus I would really want to see how adam looked
Like an albino Eva. :P

[Demon_Eva01]

If they do make a fourth movie it will probably end up with mass genocide...oh wait they already did that with EoE lol the fourth movie will no doubtly take it's toll on my wallet lol if it sucks or not i will most likely buy it.

[Defiled one]

albino eva... albino eva.......I like the sound... albino eva..

[BLACKANGEL32076]

Could be good, could be bad. Who knows. Guess we will just have to wait and see.

The easy way to solve this is to wait for it to come out for rent on rentanime.com and see what was added. This way GAINAX gets their money, and we get to see what they did, case closed.

[Reichu]

Who on Earth is gonna wait that long? ;) Placing bets (with Monopoly play-money) on theater-recorded bootlegs with hilariously bad subtitles circulating via torrent, followed by high-quality R2 DVD rips with considerably more accurate translations. By the time the movies are released overseas, most of the people who care have already seen them at least thirty times. (Or possibly less.)

[Defiled one]

Actualy I am already searching anything 24 hours.... for all i know the Magazine "Newtype" of Japan will release an exclusive in that matter...How do i know this...I have been stalking....the net..the net..I mean the internet.. i wasnt with a net searching.. you know.. I have to quit coffe...Sobs.

[CanonRAP]

Somwhere along the line, Ep 1-26, 24'-26', Death(True)^2, EoE, and this new...quintilogy-thing will be all remastered (re-remastered?) on BluRay or whatever comes out next, put together in one package and be labelled 'The Saga of Evangelion'.

[Defiled one]

i agree, personaly i think this will be the same evangelion with better graphics but exactly the same.. plus a few cuts scenes that dont have importance to the series...

[Reichu]

If by "few cuts scenes that dont have importance to the series", you mean "a yummy dose of new material that is guaranteed to give Eva geeks multiple orgasms upon first contact", I hope you're right. :P

[Defiled one]

If Yui kami-sama doesnt appear.. I dont want to to see it..if Rei dies har hair brown...maybe....maybe. I dont know.. got to think about it....


although it was funny if hideaki Anno did that just to piss Rei fans.. he "killed" Asuka in very painful way.. IoI faneevaservice that scene...

I sincerly hope that is isnt something to be like just to get more money.. like those shito XX. Although they are pretty...

[DarthMigit]

Imagine a series set in the distant future, on the mutilated version of Earth, a sort of "what happened next" story starring the decendants of the qualified children and a new company attempting to recover the power of the Evangelion. It'll never happen of course because Anno loves nothing more than to taunt his fans with the fact that we will NEVER EVER EVER learn what happens after EoE, also that story would suck.

Perhaps a prolouge of the events leading up to and including the second impact, an expansion on what happened in episode 21? World wars and such? Nope, that would be boring, no evangelions see...

Meh, I've had enough of guessing, I WANT SOME BLOODY ANSWERS. Are you listening Anno?

[Defiled one]

or maybe Shinji getting sucked to one of those dimensitions...with Asuka...you know the creepy ones... althought!!!!! and this kicks major *** and its hideaki Anno style!!! for suuure

Shinji wakes up....and says

"I HAD THE MOST HORRIBLE DREAM IN MY LIFE!!!!"

and then sundelly he observes that he is on like on his teacher house and receives a letter... from his father... saying.. come.

And shinji is like!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhh.

[Reichu]

Perhaps a prolouge of the events leading up to and including the second impact, an expansion on what happened in episode 21? World wars and such? Nope, that would be boring, no evangelions see...
If you're expanding on the #21 Flashback Timeline, of course Evas are included.

[DarthMigit]

or maybe Shinji getting sucked to one of those dimensitions...with Asuka...you know the creepy ones... althought!!!!! and this kicks major *** and its hideaki Anno style!!! for suuure

Shinji wakes up....and says

"I HAD THE MOST HORRIBLE DREAM IN MY LIFE!!!!"

and then sundelly he observes that he is on like on his teacher house and receives a letter... from his father... saying.. come.

And shinji is like!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhh.

Wasn't that a scene from goosebumps?

[DarthMigit]

If you're expanding on the #21 Flashback Timeline, of course Evas are included.

Yeah, but they don't get to fight anything...except the first contact test subjects.

[CanonRAP]

Yeah, but they don't get to fight anything...except the first contact test subjects.

Do you mean 'fight' as in 'fight other big things'? I usually think of 'fight' as 'conflict, whether internal or external'.

Shinji wakes up....and says

"I HAD THE MOST HORRIBLE DREAM IN MY LIFE!!!!"

and then sundelly he observes that he is on like on his teacher house and receives a letter... from his father... saying.. come.

And shinji is like!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhh.

I think if Ogata screams Shinji-style one more time, her throat will bleed and explode, and so will my ears.

I favour the idea of a prequel, if only to shut Shinji up. The more I watch NGE, the more I wish to verbally abuse him (I don't hate his character though, oddly enough).

[DarthMigit]

Do you mean 'fight' as in 'fight other big things'? I usually think of 'fight' as 'conflict, whether internal or external'.

Oh shut up you over-analytical fool! You know what I meant.

I favour the idea of a prequel, if only to shut Shinji up. The more I watch NGE, the more I wish to verbally abuse him (I don't hate his character though, oddly enough).

Nor I. As I am of his age and of a similar temperment I pity his plight. DON'T HURT ME SHINJI HATERS, PLEASE DON'T STOP CARING ABOUT ME!
"I musn't run away, I musn't run away,I musn't run away, I musn't run away,
I musn't run away, I musn't run away,..."

Yes, prequal goooooooooooood.... :P

[Defiled one]

probably it will be nothing.. just a dvd pack of collection just has Gainax does...they know best not to touch it.. unless Hideaki Anno got some revelation while sleeping,, I dont know.

[DarthMigit]

We can only hope, although allegedly at least one of the four new features is new material...PLEASE PLEASE. I need new Evangelion that I am actually aware is happening!

[Defiled one]

Awareness? puff...That will never happen...

[Marduk]

Wasn't there a rumor awhile back about a GHERIN-Era prequel? This could be it :unsure:

[evafan88]

Lets hope for a new ending with alot of action like EOE but Eva unit 1 getting in on the action well at least some of it, then have a happy ending like the tv show ending but with Shinji and Asuka living happily ever after!!!!!

I would cry at such things!!!

[Marduk]

The EoTV was no 'happy end' in a sense. It was more of a 'loose end' rather than an actual 'ending', which forced Anno to make EoE, which also ended in a 'loose end' of sorts (it wasn't happy nor sad either). This leads to the probability that the fourth movie might be about humanity getting back on its feet in a post-3I world. I highly doubt there would be ANY Eva action in this case (unless Yui oh-so-magically decided to return to earth for some reason.)
MY idea of a sequel, however, would be about Shinji and Asuka (plus any who decided to return) running away from some mysterious group (younger SEELE guys?) that came out of the sea of Tang, preventing the rest of humanity from coming back while chasing after Shinji and Asuka to froce them to return to the sea and complete the instrumentality.

[evafan88]

How is the TV ending NOT a happy ending???? It made me glad for shinji after I watched it, I dont think you understood the ending if you think there were loose ends.....

[Marduk]

But what is a 'happy' ending? How do you define it? If a happy ending is defined by the protagonist's own happiness and well-being then it's no different than a villian fulfilling his evil ambitions, making it a 'happy ending' for himself but a sad ending for the rest. You need to look at the bigger picture. Shinji may have been happy with his own conclusion but he still doomed all of mankind to remain a dead sea of LCL and not evolve into a higher plane of existence. Also, EoTV and EoE were exactly the same; BOTH had Shinji renounce instrumentality, and BOTH were intended to have an 'open' (not 'loose') ending, neither sad nor happy. How is this you may ask? In EoTV they tried playing the 'open end' card, but failed. They ran out of funds and were forced to abbreviate it so much that most questions were left unanswered and -in fact- raised several more questions; what happened to everyone? What about Asuka? Where is that Eva Series SEELE's been talking about? How did the instrumentality start if there were no angels to initiate it to name a few. EoE on the other hand played it almost right. It left us with much less questions with the aftermath being the most prominent one, nudging the 'loose' ending towards the 'open' side. (Well, it actually DID give us a wee little part of the answer to that question by bringing Asuka back. Shinji couldn't have possibly dragged her back with him unless he was some kind of psychic)

[Defiled one]

the main problem to the Evangelion creators were that... Gainax at that time when evangelion was made... demanded that they ended the series on time...thus cutting a good part of the ideas that Hideaki Anno and others had for the last episodes not ot mention that the budget was low... the movie suffered the same fate... they needed more time and budget.. because even the movie was low on the budget...

Gainaix wanted profit...at that time they never thought that evangelion was going to be their salvation in a sense... after all these years the number of fans multiplied... mostly for a matured audience..and gainax was wow... we can make money with this. more naked rei pics...and fanservice... because they think only fanservice makes money now adays.

now after all these years Hideaki Anno is known.. and if he is going to make a prequal sequal what ever it is... it will be at his way.. no problems..hell, he can put whatever he wants and Gainax has to comply.. what they want is profit!!! has any other anime company

[TS-Scorpio]

...What do you mean by...ending the series....on time?...It was...scheduled to have....26 episodes....from the beginning...They just....wanted to...conclude it...in an experimental....way....which could....take advantage of...the lack of funds for....a heavily action orientated based ending as seen in EoE.

[Defiled one]

what i mean that it was 26 episodes just has they planed.. but they had to make them... in a time limit before airing them.. with a certain budget.. who was very litle in the end.

[Reichu]

...What do you mean by...ending the series....on time?...It was...scheduled to have....26 episodes....from the beginning...They just....wanted to...conclude it...in an experimental....way....which could....take advantage of...the lack of funds for....a heavily action orientated based ending as seen in EoE.
(You're horrible. :P )

[Defiled one]

serioulsy, Hideaki Anno now.. has the power to make evangelion the way he wanted without the problem of funds and time....lets face it here people, Gainax made a lot of money in Eva... in any way possible.. and they used that money to create other animes.... My guess is that they begged Anno to make another thing of evangelion because their golden horse was dying from being so squeezed.

[Marduk]

Heh, If they're gonna make the graphics and animation levels on par with (or even better than) KARAS then I'm all for it. In fact, it HAS to be that way now that they have the funds and technology >=D

[Defiled one]

that is a fact.. if evangelion movie are made than it will be good.. althought i think hideaki anno is making these four movies has a map for the new live action evangelion that is now in pre production.. yes that thing is still working and now its on another fase..trying to decide the director

[Dr. Nick]

the movie suffered the same fate... they needed more time and budget.. because even the movie was low on the budget...

:blink:
And this information comes from where?

They just....wanted to...conclude it...in an experimental....way....which could....take advantage of...the lack of funds for....a heavily action orientated based ending as seen in EoE.

I don't think they especially wanted to make an "experimental ending"; it's more like they had no choice. ("Déja Vu! I've just been in this place before!")

[DarthMigit]

that is a fact.. if evangelion movie are made than it will be good.. althought i think hideaki anno is making these four movies has a map for the new live action evangelion that is now in pre production.. yes that thing is still working and now its on another fase..trying to decide the director

At the most, Anno will have a supervisory role in LAEM. He will have virtually nothing to do with it.

[Defiled one]

yup the live action films are out of his reach....propably seeing how people change the japanese movies like the ring and grudge....it will be ****

[Reichu]

"I like where this thread is going."

[TS-Scorpio]

(You're horrible. :P )

Nyaa! =^.^=

[CanonRAP]

This seems to bring back the memories of LAME discussions...

..and gainax was wow... we can make money with this. more naked rei pics...and fanservice... because they think only fanservice makes money now adays.

LOL. But the fan service part is true.

now after all these years Hideaki Anno is known.. and if he is going to make a prequal sequal what ever it is... it will be at his way.. no problems..hell, he can put whatever he wants and Gainax has to comply.. what they want is profit!!! has any other anime company

Actually, I believe Anno had a following even before NGE. TBH, I think Gainax has grown a lot since NGE, and Anno isn't exactly in control of everything anymore (AFAIK, I could be wrong).

(Talking about Gainax...does anyone actually like Top 2! at all besides the original Top! fans?)

[Defiled one]

Yes that is true, but he was not well know after evangelion that i assure you.. about evangelion... hell the majoraty of the games promotions and other stuff concerning evangelion.. well he never had the chance to get even near those projects...but than again would you trust 4 evangelions films to its originals creators? or to some other guys?

about Gainax.. it goes way old that company.. but I think people at least the western wolrd know it becasue of evangleion... because when they release some animes such flcl or this ugly yet beautifull world when i saw the trailer what did i see.. from the creators of evangelion.. more blall and more blaaa...and you know what i speak of if you saw some trailers... not to mentions the evangelion references who had been posted some pictures in here.

[Reichu]

Usage of ellipses in this thread is hereby grounds for bannination. Or, at least, a very severe spanking. Or a word filter that turns an ellipsis into "puppysex".

[Ornette]

http://www.tesuji.org/als_images/1157359624406.jpg
anyone read this issue?

[Defiled one]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHH IS OUT?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 ITS FREAKING OUT!!!!!!! GIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I, YOU JUST WAIT A SECOND TO SEEEE.... chist i cant even write properly with the excitment i hope i see SHinji kun!!!!!!!!!! eahhhh squeal!!!!! you people wait, me going to search..



i cant find anything...i hope that they make a sequal, please let it be a sequal..please let it be a sequal...........let it be a sequal...I hope they make

[NAveryW]

EEEEEEEE, it's out!!!1111

I MUST KNOW WHAT IT SAYS!

I'm hoping for a prequel... If it's an Angelic Days anime I'm going to be rather disheartened. I'll still watch it, but disheartenedly.

[Defiled one]

did anyone found anything? i am still searching...nothing!!! this is torture....you know..realy raw torture


I am editing this to tell you some news...the magazine didnt come out.. it just appeared in a comercial...more like...see.. cant touch... more like, teasing us... in sick sense...by the looks of this, many people want to buy this monthly magazine...

.. it appears to be "rebuild of evangelion" who i think is strange because they lanched renewal of evangelion who was remastered with the best technological imagery and sound, or so they say...

so dont get your hopes up..but by the looks of it...it doesnt seem to be the all same put cutscenes... it could probaly be like the hellsing ova...who was excelent.....

dont get our hopes....until we really know some facts here...

[NAveryW]

Rebuild of Evangelion? What the deuce is that supposed to mean? Are they re-editing the series? Sigh... goodbye, prequel... *flushhhhh...*

[Defiled one]

I think they arent...digitalizing it... like renewal of evangelion....i think they are going to tell the same story... but using the same technology that can be used nowadays..like hellsing ova..."this is my opinion of course"...but we have to remember this..when evangelion was made..the type mecha was stagnated...no ideas were coming with the exception of bulky robots..with badass weapons fusiing and stuff...and hideaki anno created something new...the eva with an apeal...so it could be..." this is another baseless theory" that Hideaki Anno could use another stagnated genre of anime such has "magical girls" WHO GAINAX likes to use.. and making it completly diferent...you just have to wait and see.

[DarthMigit]

Uh, is anyone paying attention to what was posted at the very begining of this thread?

Three were to be re-edits of the series, and the fourth was to be new animation.

Don't lose yourself in the web of rumour spinning! If this info is to be believed then at least one of the projects will be a new concept.

Of course I shall remain sceptical untill Newtype streets.

Why are you panicking about the new stuff being re-edits? What info exists to back up these fears! I do not understand!! :'(

Let's not jump to conclusions okay? Hopefully all of our doubts will be put to rest by the 10th. Untill then, all we have is speculation. AND THAT IS NEVER ENOUGH I SAY! ^_^

[Shin-seiki]

Copy-pasta from EMF:more from ANS

9-6-06 (4:50AM EDT)---- Unconfirmed: New Evangelion Anime Details
The following is totally unconfirmed: The title for the new film series is "Evangelion Shin Gekijou Ban", it will consist of 4 parts with the first part arriving in Japanese theaters in early summer, 2007. Staff include General Supervisor: Hideaki Anno, Director: Tsurumaki Kazuya , Character Design: Yoshiyuki Sadamoto, Mecha Design: Ikuto Yamashita, Animation Production: Khara (Color) Studio. The scenario of the 1st part will be written by Hideaki Anno with storyboard by Shinji Higuchi. Key points of a supposed interview which may or may not appear in the forthcoming edition of Newtype attributed to Toshimichi Ohtsuki of King Records have also been circulating. According to that information:
-The content is quite different though the time base of the story is the same as the original TV series.
- It will be a remake, however, it is not a re-creation but a "new work".
- The approach will be different than what Tomino-san did with the Gundam Z New Translation films, there will apparantly be a large amount of new material.
- Even if the TV series has not be seen, the viewer will be able to enjoy it. Though the content becomes easy, it is not redundant to those already familiar with the series.
- The technique that purposely scatters difficult words and phrases will not be used any longer.
- As an antithesis to current animation industry segments. It is an attitude on the production side to pull the act in the age that started from Eva.

[Defiled one]

......I will wait until i have oficial details from the magazine newtype..after that i will decide...to either scream!! or sobs!!! or sobscream..Shinji ikari version.

[hiroaki]

http://www.tesuji.org/als_images/1157359624406.jpg
anyone read this issue?

http://ranobe.com/up/src/up135522.jpg

These are quite unrelated to the content of the TV series.
This is resistance to a present Anime industry.

[Defiled one]

I dont understand what they are saying......so..I really have to wait :) ...But I dont have my hopes... everybody was like this when those shito xx pictures appeared and everybody that i knew was wow!!! sequal!! sequal!!! and what do you know?...It was a statue...and everybody sunk like titanic... in the sea of sobs.

[Reichu]

The technique that purposely scatters difficult words and phrases will not be used any longer.
WHAAAAAAAT?!? Does that we're gonna be SPOOOOOOONFED? :'(

I'm kinda at a loss for what exactly this is gonna be. I should just stop thinking about it and practice my graffiti.

[Defiled one]

does that mean they are going to talk..like 4kids? I hope "they" dont put the paws on this YOU HEAR!! my soul would have no respect for me if i let that happen...

[NAveryW]

The technique that purposely scatters difficult words and phrases will not be used any longer?! But that's my favorite part of the show!!! I doubt any of us would still be here on this forum ten years after the show ended if things like that weren't in the show.


Fortunately, that IS unconfirmed... but with "Rebuild of Evangelion" as the title, I'm getting rather worried...

[Defiled one]

Good, cause my dawg was already trying to hang himself....but without the confusing words...we wont have anything to talk about 10 years....unless Hideaki Anno is plotting something to make our brains explode...a revenge from the hate letters that he received :P

do you think there is anything worse than third impact?.....I know....a couple of things :P

[Magami No ER]

I'm not terribly upset by that, the only thing that'd discourage me would be to pull a Leiji lack of contnuity and make these films AU. Or make them contain contradictions from what we have now, that become the "law" of the Eva world...

[Jabberwok]

I had a few questions I hope someone can clear up.
- The approach will be different than what Tomino-san did with the Gundam Z New Translation films, there will apparantly be a large amount of new material.
Without dipping my own feet into /gundam/ over here, can someone tell me just what Tomino-san did?
- As an antithesis to current animation industry segments. It is an attitude on the production side to pull the act in the age that started from Eva.
Has anyone made any sense of this "Bad English"? If they could share, that'd be super-green.


WHAAAAAAAT?!? Does that we're gonna be SPOOOOOOONFED?
I was actually hoping that with a decrease in the amount of ambiguous, meta-biological, techno-babble (not that there's anything wrong with that) and the like would lead to more time for some hard-core drama.

The flip side to that (and I hope the incorrect one) would be what I hope for, "drama", would be replaced with "action", which would make my above sentence quite dirty.

Guess I'll just have to wait and see come Early-2Q, '07:puppysex:

[Defiled one]

has long Shinji goes all wimpy in front of them and evil behind their back i am fine with it....its about time to receive the change..for using a 14 year old has a stress reliver...all were hypocrats..all were trying make someone more miserable than them... :P all had issues

[ZeroRyoko1974]

I was kinda hoping for an Angelic Days anime :(

[Defiled one]

Probably :P ....but I think....It it go towards a more dark aproach...you see in the last episode of evangelion, 26... the original Shinji observing the other Shinji"manga"..the Shinji who wasnt a pilot...a place where 2 impact didnt ocur...didnt people understand "the perpective" of this? :P quite funny...and probably, the alternative universes...dont you think that the original Shinji wanted to go to that world? insted of being in a desolate red sea place? :P


anime Shinji versus manga Shinji...and the internal battle continues :P

[The Million Dollar Prons]

Rumor mill is saying there's gonna be four Eva annnie-may movies. =(

[Magami No ER]

Without dipping my own feet into /gundam/ over here, can someone tell me just what Tomino-san did?

He basically took his 50 episode Zeta Gundam TV series from '85 and headed new movies that would retell the story, mixing the original animation with a greater proportion of slightly modified character designs and new scenes/redrawn scenes, making a trilogy of movies under the subtitle "A New Translation".
He did this intially with first Gundam series and Ideon(in this case, two movies), but the former greatly benefitted from movie incarnation, which did not change the ending, and as for Ideon, the second movie actually ended that then incomplete series. In a big way.
What's different with Zeta is that since his darker days of killing many characters in his stories and his bouts of depression, Tomino-san decided to both update Zeta and at the same time treat the story matter a bit differently, with his current ideals(not to mention serverly condense the orginal story) As a result, the movies had a changed ending, and they are AU from the traditional UC Gundam universe. The only way it is connected to any otehr gundam series is the first Gundam movie trilogy, and I think (I haven't seen the third Zeta movie) Char's Counterattack, which was made in '88 as a continuation from Zeta's orginal sequel "Double Zeta".
Not to mention there wasn't a huge time gap that made the differences in animation look as noticable (if noticable at all).
Still, I'll say this again, no as wordy and confusing as the continuity breaches made by Eva.

[AchtungAffen]

If it's unrelated to the original series then they can do all the Diebusters they want with this. But if they dare pull of a Diebuster, and then necessarily link it to the real Eva, I'm going to be pissed.

[hiroaki]

http://ranobe.com/up/src/up135620.jpg
http://ranobe.com/up/src/up135621.jpg
http://ranobe.com/up/src/up135622.jpg
http://ranobe.com/up/src/up135623.jpg
http://ranobe.com/up/src/up135624.jpg

[Defiled one]

Its official...there is two movies of evangelion? Meep?..."looks more closely"..

"originaly posted by hiroaki" :O
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/4604/up135624nj4.jpg

[TS-Scorpio]

^That's nothing to do with these movies.

I've seen them before. I'm under the impression it's some kind of "How to Draw" or production notes. See, it's listed with the other merchandise.

EDIT: Here. http://www.evastore.jp/index.cgi?rm=detail&id=266&genre=30_book&page=&key=&8%A1%E04=2%A1%DE0

[Defiled one]

somewhere in someplace..someone or something is having a heart attack for laughing so hard...sweet, this is like stealing candy from a baby :lol:

[Reichu]

I've seen them before. I'm under the impression it's some kind of "How to Draw" or production notes.
The "Groundwork" books are compilations of roughs and genga (keyframes... assuming there's any actual animation going on). You can see some examples at FGC (http://www.evacommentary.org/supplemental-images.html#groundwork).

[TS-Scorpio]

The "Groundwork" books are compilations of roughs and genga (keyframes... assuming there's any actual animation going on). You can see some examples at FGC (http://www.evacommentary.org/supplemental-images.html#groundwork).

Ah, didn't realise those were the same (because I actually DO visit your site ^_^)

[Ark]

Feel free to disagree with this but does anyone else think that an Animatrix style set of mini-stories that are loosely connected to the main plot might be preferable to what is being proposed.

I just can't see the need for four new full blown films.

[Jabberwok]

I just can't see the need for four new full blown films.
It doesn't seem to me like it will be that way. Not entirely. One "new full blown film", yes, but the other three appear as if they will mostly be remakes (or whatever word it is that they're using).

I'm imagining something similar to the NPC cuts but taken to a whole other level, along with some vastly updated visuals (specifically animation quality; cg coloring and all that), and a general condensation of the base story.


I think what you proposed though (Animatrix style shorts), would work amazingly well for any story being told about 2nd Impact (prior, during, and post), just as it did for the Matrix series.

[Ark]

It doesn't seem to me like it will be that way. Not entirely. One "new full blown film", yes, but the other three appear as if they will mostly be remakes (or whatever word it is that they're using).

I'm imagining something similar to the NPC cuts but taken to a whole other level, along with some vastly updated visuals (specifically animation quality; cg coloring and all that), and a general condensation of the base story.

That's what I meant.I still don't see the need for it though especially since we're talking about a series that only has 26 episodes which are now very cheap to buy. Plus we already have Death.

[Hekym]

This forum isn't nearly as active as usual. It's like y'all are kinda waiting with baited breath. It's sorta cute.

[Jabberwok]

>>This forum isn't nearly as active as usual.
Heh, there's been more than a couple comments on other (and slightly more active) boards about the traffic here lately.

>>waiting with baited breath
Naw, more like ANF is taking up a smaller slice of everyone's attention span pie than before. Just my opinion, though.

>>cute
Always.

Ark:
I agree with you and would be lying if I said I wasn't having mid-90's flashbacks concerning the Star Wars re-releases, though I can't seem to remember what my attitude towards that series was at the time, or how it compares to my attitude about "Eva: Shin Gekijouban" now.

I won't make any further comparisons than that (I have a bad feeling about this...).

Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to me Gainax has had ample time to do a project like this in the past, so unless there is some magical marketing formula or planetary alignment I'm not aware of, I'm guessing there's a good, honest reason for their move. Like maybe there's another story there they've always wanted to tell, or maybe they're all bored off their bums (bored/broke, works the same).

I'll add to, or posibly condradict, my earlier predictions and say that I'm expecting a different monster than the original. Reorganised, redistilled, and refocused; a bit like the manga, a bit not. Accessable and pretty enough for those who haven't heard of Eva before (what, 5 maybe 6 people?) or those who didn't care for it the first (or second, or third) time around, yet still deep, intriguing, and possibly new enough (material-wise) for the veterans(fanatics) to enjoy.

I s'pose regurgitated could be added to the list of "re-"s as well, and speaking of, I feel as if I'm running in circles and saying nothing new, so I'll shut up for a while... again.

[Reichu]

This forum isn't nearly as active as usual. It's like y'all are kinda waiting with baited breath.
...for me to get the goddam FGC forum up, meybe? (Got meself sidetracked again because I got sick of people picking on me for-- eh, nevermind.)

Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to me Gainax has had ample time to do a project like this in the past, so unless there is some magical marketing formula or planetary alignment I'm not aware of...
The original NGE movies were released in 1997. 1997 + 10 = ???? = profit!

[Defiled one]

When the magazine comes out..and in fact it proves a reality...this would mean one thing...Hideaki Anno may be inspired again...who knows, maybe he got those dreams...best ideas comes from wacky dreams you know...

if the magazine shows a picture or at least a sketch of those phatom movies that everbody has been dreaming since 1997....gainax just cloned the horse painted in gold.. and voilá le masterpiece!!!!


Divide and conquer!!! with the four movies....

[Jabberwok]

..for me to get the goddam FGC forum up, meybe?
Do you mean "up" as in "for the first time" or "again" because, and no offense, I didn't even know FGC had a forum. I kinda always thought EMF was the quasi-official forum for the FGC.

The original NGE movies were released in 1997. 1997 + 10 = ???? = profit!
Solve for "question mark"... I've got it! Trailers for "Eva: Shin Gekijouban" will be released in the 10th Anniv. box set, thus explaining its delay and mysterious new content.

[Shin-seiki]

Do you mean "up" as in "for the first time" or "again" because, and no offense, I didn't even know FGC had a forum. I kinda always thought EMF was the quasi-official forum for the FGC.All the commentary threads for the first four episodes were/are here on AN.

[Ornette]

The original NGE movies were released in 1997. 1997 + 10 = ???? = profit!
You know, that's probably the only time I've seen that meme where profit is actually the case.

I award you one (1) internet, to add to your collection.

Do you mean "up" as in "for the first time" or "again" because, and no offense, I didn't even know FGC had a forum. I kinda always thought EMF was the quasi-official forum for the FGC.
It does, but it is seekret. BTW Reichu, what other work needs to happen on it for the forum to go live? It looks like it's working for the most part to me (and feel free to ask for help, although I'll be in Shanghai for a month, dunno how connected I'll be over there).


Oh also, since they're bringing Sadamoto back (or is he just mentioned because they're going to use the same character designs?), I kinda got the impression that he's milling up new character designs as well, so it's possible that we'll get something that doesn't even look like Eva.

[Ark]

I'm not sure if this has already been posted

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/article.php?id=9464

A little more clarification on the content of these "movies"

According to the October issue of Newtype (Japan) (On sale September 10), four new Evangelion movies are in the works. The four movies will include a prequel, a mid-series movie, a sequel and a "final" movie. The prequel movie is due out early summer 2007.

While the new story will be set during the same time frame as the original TV series, Newtype states that it will be an entirely new project, not be a remake or improvement of any sort. Newtype also mentions that viewers will not need to have already seen previous Evangelion material in order to understand and enjoy the new movies.

Hideaki Anno will write the scenario for the first movie and will be the general director and manager for the entire project. Kazuya Tsurumaki will direct the movies while Yoshiyuki Sadamoto will provide character designs and Ikuto Yamashita will provide mechanical designs. Shinji Higuchi will provide storyboards for the first movie.

Khara, a new studio that shares office space with Gainax, was recently set up and is seeking production staff to work on Anno's new project.

A prequel about life right before and after the 2I could be a good film.

The one set during the series is interesting idea as well.

I'm sceptical though about a sequel. What could it be other than 90 minutes of Asuka and Shinji walking around aimlessly and boning. As much as I'm sure we'd all like to see that I don't think you could really make a film out of it.Plus I'm really confused about this "final film".I think EoE was enough of a final film.

[Shin-seiki]

I'm sceptical though about a sequel. What could it be other than 90 minutes of Asuka and Shinji walking around aimlessly and boning. As much as I'm sure we'd all like to see that I don't think you could really make a film out of it.Plus I'm really confused about this "final film".I think EoE was enough of a final film.We'll have to wait for more and better information to tell where this is going. It's possible that this project may deviate as much or more so than the manga has from the anime. This new 'final film' would logically seem to be set post-3I, but the post-3I world in this version could be something completely different from what we were left with in EoE...

[Ark]

We'll have to wait for more and better information to tell where this is going. It's possible that this project may deviate as much or more so than the manga has from the anime. This new 'final film' would logically seem to be set post-3I, but the post-3I world in this version could be something completely different from what we were left with in EoE...

You're not thinking.....Eva-R??????????????????


To be honest though I quite liked the way they handled Ask/Shin in that.

[Reichu]

Solve for "question mark"... I've got it! Trailers for "Eva: Shin Gekijouban" will be released in the 10th Anniv. box set, thus explaining its delay and mysterious new content.
I actually just meant that anniversaries in multiples of 10 (or 5) tend to be used as heap big commercial opportunities. It seemed suspicious that the original movies were released in 1997, and we're getting the "shingekijouban" a decade later.

You know, that's probably the only time I've seen that meme where profit is actually the case.

I award you one (1) internet, to add to your collection.
Awesomeness! I need to make a text file to keep track of this... :lol:

It does, but it is seekret. BTW Reichu, what other work needs to happen on it for the forum to go live?
Uhhh, mostly I just need to make it look not ugly (I have a theme in mind), and maybe some other things I haven't thought of... I'm going to turn my attentions back to it as soon as "Exhibit A" of that thread is done.

Oh also, since they're bringing Sadamoto back (or is he just mentioned because they're going to use the same character designs?), I kinda got the impression that he's milling up new character designs as well, so it's possible that we'll get something that doesn't even look like Eva.
I hope like mad any returning characters don't have the weird looks that they do in the manga (e.g., Yui, Kaworu). Consistency with the style used in the NPCs and EoE would be nice.

I also hope like mad that they simply expand upon the preexisting universe and story instead of needlessly changing it, since there is so much left untold. The CI actually seems like a teaser, in many ways, for things that could potentially be elaborated upon in the new films. The fangirl in me is lusting for a take on the story that provides a more 'behind-the-scenes' angle, "the NGE you didn't see". I'm kind of sick of the "younger crowd" -- I'd enjoy having, say, Gendo as our anti-hero instead. He'd be a good one.

Oh gawd I want that prequel so bad... ;_;

[Hekym]

I'm kind of sick of the "younger crowd" -- I'd enjoy having, say, Gendo as our anti-hero instead. He'd be a good one.


You know, I was comparing NGE to Wuthering Heights in that aspect the other day... Gendo is a lot like Heathcliff, isn't he?

[Jabberwok]

I actually just meant that anniversaries in multiples of 10 (or 5) tend to be used as heap big commercial opportunities.
Never mind the terrible joke. I told myself I was going to be quiet for a while. That worked real well.

While I do agree with the anniversary formula (series+10=10th aniv; movies+10=more movies), there still exists a part of me that hopes this is motivated more by artistic forces than market ones.

I mean, 10th box set and new material within a year of each other? Aren't they pretty good about spacing things like this out a little further apart?

[Hekym]

This might actually be really good timing, as any new fan from Cartoon Network's airing is probably in pretty deep. (>>>me)

The US base is a lot more solid now. C'mon, at least we'll be able to say "the original was best" if all else fails. This will give EVA the pedestal it deserves. But if they change Misato or Ritsuko from their orginal Japanese versions too much in any aspect of this (In Ritsuko's dub case, AGAIN) I will be pissed to hell.

I would kind of like to see if all these theories about EVA hold up under new evidence.

[hiroaki]

エヴァンゲリオン新劇場版の公開スケジュール（予定）
タイトル 公開年 上映時間
前編　ＲＥＢＵＩＬＤ　ＯＦ
ＥＶＡＮＧＥＬＩＯＮ：０１ 平成１９年初夏 ９０分
中編　ＲＥＢＵＩＬＤ　ＯＦ　
ＥＶＡＮＧＥＬＩＯＮ：０２ 平成２０年陽春 ９０分
後編＋完結編　ＲＥＢＵＩＬＤ　ＯＦ　
ＥＶＡＮＧＥＬＩＯＮ：０３、０４ 平成２０年初夏 ４５分×２ (http://www.sanspo.com/geino/top/gt200609/gt2006090902.html)

Schedule
1st (90 min) May, 2007　
2nd (90) Feb,2008
3rd, Last (45×2) May,2008

[NAveryW]

Prequel: Grood. Great. Great and good.

Interquel: Erm... is Shinji's girlfriend of steel going to show up? XD

Sequel: O_O No no no no NO! EoE's open-endedness is what made it so awexome!

Final movie: Erm... So another sequel?

I'm even more concerned about the sequels because it appears that ANNO'S ONLY WRITING THE SCENARIO FOR THE FIRST MOVIE! So, will only the first one be canon?

[Magami No ER]

'Nother R word describing Evangelion, not surprising. Hmm...Rebuild. Hopefully it won't actually be shown happening lietrally, people in this series need to actually LEARN from their mistakes.^^;

[Reichu]

I'm even more concerned about the sequels because it appears that ANNO'S ONLY WRITING THE SCENARIO FOR THE FIRST MOVIE!
Has it been said anywhere that he isn't writing the others, or is there just no info period?

I think the translations we're seeing of the installment designations might be misleading. They literally mean 'front part' ("part" as of a book), 'middle part', 'latter part', and 'conclusion part'. So one might think of it as being divided into three acts, topped with a 'conclusion'. 'Front part' and 'latter part' can mean "prequel" and "sequel", except what they're sandwiching isn't the original series, but the 2nd "Rebuild". Well, time will tell what the contents actually are...

Sucks that there are only REALLY 3 movies after all... One of them is just going to be pulling an EoE and be split up into two segments.

[hiroaki]

Has it been said anywhere that he isn't writing the others, or is there just no info period?

I think the translations we're seeing of the installment designations might be misleading. They literally mean 'front part' ("part" as of a book), 'middle part', 'latter part', and 'conclusion part'. So one might think of it as being divided into three acts, topped with a 'conclusion'. 'Front part' and 'latter part' can mean "prequel" and "sequel", except what they're sandwiching isn't the original series, but the 2nd "Rebuild". Well, time will tell what the contents actually are...

Sucks that there are only REALLY 3 movies after all... One of them is just going to be pulling an EoE and be split up into two segments.

1~3 composes from TV ep1-24. last part is an original.

[Jabberwok]

1~3 composes from TV ep1-24. last part is an original.
So 3 flicks for the bulk of the series with a totally new End or did you mean to say "TV ep1-26" with the last part as an orginal? Because that would read as "sequel" to me.

I'm hoping you did in fact mean what you wrote originally, because I really don't want a sequel right now. Maybe I wanted an Ep:27+ after my first or second viewing of the series, but now that I've had more time to digest it, I feel it's good enough as is (in a closure sense).

And then I finished Re-Take, and while it's not canon by any stretch of the imagination, I'm even more satisfied with the series' ending as it stands.

I guess I'm chasing tea leaves by thinking an "After the End" is part of the plan, but I want to go on record saying how much I don't want one right now, just so I can look like a giant hypocrite when one gets made and I start proclaiming how much I've always wanted one and how cool it is.

</pointless rant>


Schedule
1st (90 min) May, 2007　
2nd (90) Feb,2008
3rd, Last (45×2) May,2008

Combining this with your later post I'm reading this as (with arbitrary titles from FGC's arc designations)...
Ep:01-12, 90min ,"The Action of Evangelion"
Ep:13-24, 90min ,"The Decent of Evangelion"
Ep:25&26, 45min ,"The Bitter End of Evangelion: Part Ⅰ"
Ep:25&26, 45min ,"The Bitter End of Evangelion: Part Ⅱ"

amirite? `cuz I'm cool with that.

[hiroaki]

oops! The ep25,6 and EoE become complete new movies (3rd,4th/Final)


These movies will solve all eva's doubt.

[Jabberwok]

oops! The ep25,6 and EoE become complete new movies (3rd,4th/Final)
Very cool. And I was just about to edit my last post to add that it still appears I don't know what I'm talking about.

These movies will solve all eva's doubt.
"All"? Now that I doubt, but I don't think I'd mind being proven wrong in this case.

[Ark]

Combining this with your later post I'm reading this as (with arbitrary titles from FGC's arc designations)...
Ep:01-12, 90min ,"The Action of Evangelion"
Ep:13-24, 90min ,"The Decent of Evangelion"
Ep:25&26, 45min ,"The Bitter End of Evangelion: Part Ⅰ"
Ep:25&26, 45min ,"The Bitter End of Evangelion: Part Ⅱ"

amirite? `cuz I'm cool with that.

Wait,where does that leave the prequel?

[Jabberwok]

Wait,where does that leave the prequel?
Taking what hiroaki posted, I also considered an earlier assessment from Reichu...
I think the translations we're seeing of the installment designations might be misleading. They literally mean 'front part' ("part" as of a book), 'middle part', 'latter part', and 'conclusion part'. So one might think of it as being divided into three acts, topped with a 'conclusion'. 'Front part' and 'latter part' can mean "prequel" and "sequel", except what they're sandwiching isn't the original series, but the 2nd "Rebuild".

...and went with the conclusion that all this "prequel" and "sequel" nonsense is just that: nonsense. Simply muddled in the translation.

But I've said it before, I'll try putting away my "Jump to Conclusions Mat" and let the big kids fight it out instead. I'm out for now.

[DarthMigit]

I want that issue of Newtype... I NEED it.

[Reichu]

"All"? Now that I doubt, but I don't think I'd mind being proven wrong in this case.
"lol Gainax, ive hurd that 1 b4"

oops! The ep25,6 and EoE become complete new movies (3rd,4th/Final)
Hiroaki, where specifically do they discuss which movies cover which episodes? You may have already posted the source, but I don't wanna skim through all of that Japanese right now if I don't need to. http://www.evacommentary.org/forums/images/smiles/sweatdroplaugh.gif

I want that issue of Newtype... I NEED it.
<SouthAmericanRiver>.co.jp seems to carry issues of Newtype. They only have the September one available now from what I can see, but might be worth keeping an eye on the place. They ship out of Japan, from what I understand. (Your search would be for ニュータイプ.)

It kinda saddens me that we're not getting a prequel after all, since that's what I've really wanted all along... To learn more about...


Gendo and Yui's backgrounds, how they fell in love, and their relationships with one another and "Fuyutsuki-sensei"
Fuyutsuki in general
What united Team YGK within Gehirn against Seele, what their visions for the future really were, and why Yui made the choice that she did.
The mysterious Dr. Katsuragi, the troubles that plagued his family and marriage, the origins of the expedition he led, and exactly what he was doing down in Antarctica... (Oh yeah, and to have an official full counterance, name, and voice to go along with the man, too.)
Kyoko, her relationship with Langley, her involvement in Project E, what Asuka meant to her, and her descent into madness.
And the usual crap: Seele, Dead Sea Scrolls, First Ancestral Race, Seeds of Life, Spear of Longinus, Second Impact, origins of the Angels, Project E, Adam Project, origins of Kaworu and Rei, HIP...
Well, I guess there would need to be other stuff in there, too, but those are the things I would be fangasming over the most. I suppose I must continue dreaming. http://www.evacommentary.org/forums/images/smiles/spout.gif

[NAveryW]

O...okay... So what I've picked up now is that these are a "new" Evangelion series; in other words, in a different canon? We need to send missionaries over to Japan to force them all to learn perfect English. >=(

/Not really
//But still

[Defiled one]

okay..the magazine, acording to the time schechule in japan has been already out..so now we wait.........."still waiting"....it was fun imagening sequal prequal whatever.. but know its time to cry with the true....Evangelion is going to be "reiserviced"..expect more shower scenes with rei and asuka, Shinji gone pervert drop the soap scenes with kaworu "woman trapped in a teenager body"....Gendo pimpmaster resurrection in "ultimate form"..and other stuff.....place your bets...and the typical censor, with the little chibi naked rei covering it up singing "Do the Rei dance everybody".... :P...dont mind "weird dream"

just kidding, I will wait for the magazine.... ;) just like everybody in here, but i dont have high hopes.

[Defiled one]

I went to my source and now i have the truth....confirming parcialy the rumors..

there is 4 MOVIES OF EVANGELION BEING MADE Newtype magazine interviewed the producer Ootsuki Toshimi...


and this is the facts...it is not a REMAKE NOR A SEQUAL.

the producer it self didnt made clear per say, but he said THAt THE MOVIES "WOULD" BE IN THE MIDDLE OF EVANGELION the content is completly diferent though....

and now your personnel hell

even if a person doesnt know evangelion will be able to enjoy it
the story wont be complex, but you will have to think a little..."not much"
NO more repetitive text technics "whatever that is"
the movies is known has rebuild of evangelion..or Shin Seiki Evangelion Shin Gekijou han

the new movie is an anthitesis agaisnt the actual anime industry, were the producers wish the bring back those good old evangelion times..

and the person in charge with the movies is exactly the same.. main director Hideaki Anno, director Tsurumaki Kazuya,Sadamoto Yoshiyuki character design,Yamashita Itoku mecha design..the animation studio is Kharas, founded by hideaki Anno recently to produce evangelion...

the first movie will come out in 2007 second semester i think. possibly one year to make each one..

my conclusion...anthitesis against the actual anime industry? "falls of chair laughing"


REISERVICE!!!!!!!!!!! scream!!! your dear old evangelion by the looks of this will be full of fanservice and parody, comedy...

I may be wrong though...I dont think sooo.


source: animetotal.com

[Ark]

and this is the facts...it is not a REMAKE NOR A SEQUAL.


Can we at least confirm that it's animated?

Seriously though if this is true it makes no sense to me.

[Defiled one]

Can we at least confirm that it's animated?

Seriously though if this is true it makes no sense to me.


well by logic.. i think its animated...the guy didnt said it "will" more like it would be, or might be along with the words....but it is something in the midle of evangelion timeline...

Nya..4 movies= 4 impact= 4$ times the fanservice..even the keyboard makes sense :P

[lost7]

I just had a nice big long explanation of the 4 movies about fanservice and war between eva fans to find the true meaning of the movies.....damn. i just hope the 4 movies put a true end to eva, and answer some questions. We do not need asuka and rei in the same bathroom together, thats what fan artists are for. The show should not be dumbed down for others who don't get shows that ask you to think. I also hope its not more shots of the show we have already seen. we want and need answers over here!!! Not fanservice. I like asuka. but not that much.

[Defiled one]

now is the four movies are between the evangelion time line..is sooooo easy to know at least two are about to speak...first "Girlfriend of steel!!" that is for sure :P then there is that book worm..from that other game were Shinji met the girl with glasses..another game... :P

if they are going to be side stories it has to be this.....the last two...I really dont have theroy with the exception...of "Rei ayanami raising project" rei imagening her future...nuff said


the final...has to be Gendo adventures at the night :P do not fear for its gendo men!!...


of course i could be wrong....since we were like, sequal!!!, prequel!!!..and very few said a side story..so my guess this is going to be also something that we dont thought.

more like ritsuko experices, turning Shinji in to a chick or something...you know, her crazy experiments.


"runs over a hill with a chair waving in his arms"


"hear me!!! the end is near!!! :P.... "lightnings strikes for drama efect"

[Hekym]

I just wanted to say that I watched Akira last night and it was very strange to actually be missing Evangelion on account of its familiarity, rational plot, logical characters and general humane approach.

Akira was still very good....

Bring on the new EVA movies. I hope they "bring back anime" again.

[Reichu]

Can we at least confirm that it's animated?

Er, they assembled a new animation studio called Khara for these movies. The fact that it's an animation studio has already been mentioned.

[Ark]

Er, they assembled a new animation studio called Khara for these movies. The fact that it's an animation studio has already been mentioned.

That was a joke.

[DarthMigit]

ARRRGH! Will somebody PLEASE slap anyone who writes for wikipedia!

And I quote...

Dubbed the Live Action Evangelion Movie (or, jokingly, "LAEM" - pronounced 'lame') by fans, it is, in fact, the first of four movies to follow - but not improve upon or expand - the plot of the anime series.

Of course, refering to Rebuilding Evangelion. Why must people annoy me so!? grumble, grumble.

[Scutilla]

Holy mother of Tabris... I go away for several months and something like this happens :O

Yeah, on the one hand I have the same concern as everyone else- the original EoE ending was good enough and shouldn't go beyond that, they're just rehashing the series yet again to get more money from us, etc. etc. etc. But even so... it's more Eva! I'm just going to remain in fanboy-euphoria for now, and pass judgment on it when we have some actual info on it :P

*starts IMing Eva Guru Ironfoot frantically to learn more*

EDIT: Huh, did they do a post reset recently? Would explain why I'm at 0 posts, and the mighty Reichu is at a mere 18...

[Shin-seiki]

EDIT: Huh, did they do a post reset recently? Would explain why I'm at 0 posts, and the mighty Reichu is at a mere 18...The mods got a bug up their collective wazzu a while back and decided that posts in the series-specific forums wouldn't be counted towards members post total...:huh:

[ShadowAssassin]

......i hope they dont kill it..i love the series...(never seen the movies but want to so bad)
but, if it turns out to be a hit then im gonna be happy, but we may never know

[Defiled one]

personaly....I ma going to see it..i bet that this four movies will makes us talk for 10 years before another movies appears...

Why do i think that one movies will be about PenPen evil deeds? or maybe crazy stalking angels from the XX series?..and the theory that Kaworu is a chick....I dont know but my Yui kami-sama senses are tingling. Meep?

[Dr. Nick]

I just wanted to say that I watched Akira last night and it was very strange to actually be missing Evangelion on account of its familiarity, rational plot, logical characters and general humane approach.

FUKKEN SIGNED (eventually).

[Defiled one]

we should probably prepare the funeral clothes.. to give our final regards to evangelion...:(...

I was there when it first aired in 95....soo good memories that I had, my friends usualy went on sundays to our neighbors house and see evangelion on his Tv color...

We would stare and observe, thinking how unique this was...of course we never saw an "anime" in our life so, we were very confused.

It was so diferent, the drawings, that old tobacco athosmephere that the old men caused while grunting about the anime, playing cards while imitating Gendo.

Even the local priest came to see it, and there we stood all packed. the children sat on the ground in front while the adult sat near the table while the priest fumed with anger...Shouting "blasphemy!! blasphemy!!" over and over when a shower scene or a mini skirt appeared..

we knew very little.. and personaly did not know why the priest was angry and tried to cover our eyes.... :P, The old men continued to gather while reading the bible, searching for incessent answers to a show that was only for entertaiment purposes. Making sure that watching this wouldnt make them all go to hell...


The good memories of my youth, and so were of my friends... forever marked... going to each others house, trying to imagine were was tokyo city that the adults talked...across the sea, over the mountains...far away...

Until the Tv censured it in episode 20...and after that...there was no more episodes. We continuend to carry our lifes and so.... 8 years passed. With everthing forgotten...I stumbled the net..and found this forum...and slowly by slowly I started to remember.. what they forcidly tried to erase from my friends and me from the past... there were more episodes, there were movies..and no one told us anything. Little by Little I began to search for what was "anime"..the bad things and the good things......and now were am I

Thank you...for making us men!!!... we shall never forget you evangelion :crybaby: "sniffs while seeing the coffin going down"

the first and only decend anime that appeared in my country before being monopolized by "4kids"

[ElDusto]

So, just to clear the air, we are not getting a prequel? Just a rehash of the old TV show and then a brand new sequel?
I'd like to see a prequel, then two movies about the show and EoE, then a sequel to EoE.

[Defiled one]

nope there is no sequal and no prequal..and not even a rebuild of the series... but merely fours movies based on side stories...with the evangelion time line..quite possibly that has nothing to do with the maincast whatsoever....

[ElDusto]

nope there is no sequal and no prequal..and not even a rebuild of the series... but merely fours movies based on side stories...with the evangelion time line..quite possibly that has nothing to do with the maincast whatsoever....
Oh well, hopefully that will be interesting.

[Defiled one]

Meep..its will be of fanservice, probaly based on the angels point of view...Shito XX

I have absolutly nooooo idea

[Ark]

Meep..its will be of fanservice, probaly based on the angels point of view...Shito XX

I have absolutly nooooo idea

hmmmm

Well if it's all side stories and no prequel that means there won't be any action in any of these films.

[ElDusto]

hmmmm

Well if it's all side stories and no prequel that means there won't be any action in any of these films.
When does the first movie come out, sometime in May of 2007? I guess we'll just have to keep an ear to the ground wait for news on what these movies will actually be about. I mean, it's 8 months away, so we should be hearing something by December/January in the way of teasers and stuff.

[DarthMigit]

the first and only decend anime that appeared in my country before being monopolized by "4kids"

Hey, don't despair yet my fellow Eva nut. We know that Hideaki Anno is in line to direct at least one of these movies, I very much doubt that he would allow his franchise to decend entirely into the depths of a Kid friendly hell. ;)

Okay, perhaps Eva's approach of hiding meaning in the subtext and weaving a subtle tapestry of mystery may be toned down, or perhaps even removed all together. In fact the entire Eva mythology painstakingly crafted through the tireless efforts of fans and producers alike, may very well be torn to the...uh, w-where was I going with this?

Well, anyhoo. All I am saying is that there is no sense in condemning these movies as trash even before we have all of the information, hype and speculation are killers my friend!

New Century Evangelion will most likely answer a few questions, but is equally likely to raise some, and it will be up to us, the fans, to endlessly speculate and sketch and fanfic upon these new aspects untill we grow old and fat and finally die; alone and lonely, of chronic boredom.

Oooooookay I'm really gonna have to stop now.

[Defiled one]

actualy i am kind happy...since it basicly the main team and now they dont have that pressure..so i prety much know they are going to make a good work....For now i am only speculating...But we shall see some teasers...in a couple of months...

[Reichu]

Where did it say anything about "side stories"? :huh:

We know that Hideaki Anno is in line to direct at least one of these movies,
He is?

[Vaikyuko]

And on the 4Kids note, there's no chance ADV will pass this up (and failing them, Manga will grab the films, which is both a blessing and a curse).

[NAveryW]

Where did it say anything about "side stories"? :huh:


He is?
Yes, he's directing and doing the scenario for the first movie.

[AchtungAffen]

Wasn't "General Supervision" or something like that Anno's official role during the original series?

[Ornette]

According to ANN, he's credited for: Director, Script, Storyboard, Music (BGM Titles), Mecha Design, and Music Producer (I didn't know that...). According to the TV series (plat) OP: Mecha Designs and Director, and the ED: Script, Executive Editor (Music Staff), and Storyboards (for certain eps 24, was one of them, and 1). I guess this can be considered "General Supervisor", he seems to have his hands in just about everything except the dirty work.

[CanonRAP]

Yes, he's directing and doing the scenario for the first movie.

Yep...he's doing the prequel. Looks like many people's wishes are finally coming true ^_^.

[Hekym]

Defiled one, chill. The worst that can happen is Eva gets widespread again. Relax and hope Anno's still going strong.

[Reichu]

Yep...he's doing the prequel. Looks like many people's wishes are finally coming true ^_^.
There's no prequel. Read the whole thread.

[Ark]

So at this stage are we basically looking at Deathx2 and a new EoE?

[Reichu]

Rebuild 1 ~ 3 = take place during #01 thru #24
Rebuild 4 = new ending

They are not DEATH-style collages.

All of this info was already posted in the thread.

[Ark]

They are not DEATH-style collages.



I didn't mean it in that sense.Maybe the Mobile Suite Gundam movies would have been a better comparison.

I really don't see the need for this though. Unless they're planning to alter the story slightly to make it more understandable.

[Reichu]

Here's some stuff that I don't think has been posted here:

I have read Producer Ohtsuki's Newtype interview on the new Eva
movies from the scans posted on the web. (blurry, tiny print *gah*)
Here is an excerpt of IMO the relevant points:

"It will be a work that can be enjoyed even if you have not
seen the TV series. I want old hard-core fans and even fans who just
know Eva from pachinko to view it as a single (i.e. stand-alone)
movie. We welcome first-time viewers, so the contents will be
simpler, but we don’t intend to make something on a level that can be
understood just by spacing out and watching it.
"When you say 'Eva' there are probably people who are reminded
of a worldview steeped in mystery, but this time it looks like those
types of elements will be kept to a minimum.
"This is because techniques such as intentionally scattering
difficult to understand phrases to create uncertainty are 12 years
old. The essence of this project is to foil all expectations that
everyone has towards Eva."

The interview page also includes the eyecatch text:

"An enormous amount of new settings have been added. And new
characters...?"
Combing through the new Evangelion movie material on the official Japanese Evangelion website, something else interesting sticks out for those out to soak up every last detail of this story. A term therein refers to the pre-existing Evangelion animation of the 1990's (TV series and Movies) as "kyuu seiki ban" or "old century version". Japanese observers are reading possible deep meaning into the use of this term as it's not exactly clear why it was used as of yet. But it's use would seem to indicate a definite "seperation" of the old eva vs this new work. This is opposed the name of the new film series: "shin gekijou ban" or "new movie version". Interestingly, the Japanese title of the original TV series was "Shin Seiki Evangelion" or "New Century Evangelion", An alternate title for the 1997 movie END OF EVANGELION was "Evangelion Gekijou-ban" or "Evengelion Movie version.
I've been checking Anno's site. It added the Shingekijouban entry

http://www.gainax.co.jp/hills/anno/newsmain.html#060906

新たな世界観、新たな展開、新たに登場するキャラクター、そして新たなエ ンディング。
旧劇場版『THE END OF EVANGELION』から10年目となる2007年初夏、シンカ・カイシンした新紀 元のエヴァへ。

New world-vision, new develops, new characters, new ending.

Woot?
There's more to the blurb than what AA translated. Maybe I'll try to tackle it later.

[Ark]

So basically we're gonna get RahXephon in four movies.

[DarthMigit]

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay... <_<

[AchtungAffen]

There's more to the blurb than what AA translated. Maybe I'll try to tackle it later.

Please do. I posted hoping for someone to take on that article translations. I know it said some other things, but I wasn't sure about the translation. Any new data that can be taken from that news post in Anno's site is welcome.

[Hekym]

Ick. I think I'd stick to my old tactics any day. There's a reason Evangelion's a classic. This is interesting, though; what makes EVA EVA but the characters, setting and world view? The name?

[Ark]

Ick. I think I'd stick to my old tactics any day. There's a reason Evangelion's a classic. This is interesting, though; what makes EVA EVA but the characters, setting and world view? The name?

Good point. In my opinion what makes Eva Eva is the psychological aspect, the promenant characters and the way it was directed which made it very atmospheric.

[HeWhoPostsStuff]

what makes EVA EVA but the characters, setting and world view? The name?
The merchandising. :P

[ElDusto]

So basically we're gonna get RahXephon in four movies.
I was just thinking that. The same story as the tv series, just retold in a different view point with some changes in the story itself, but with some new characters. I really liked the RahXephon movie, even though it seemed like it was being given to you in a digest like form. I wonder if they will remove some of the old characters from the movie, like the RahXephon movie did?
A couple of movies of new animated work telling the old story might not be so bad. At least there will be some new story to tell and maybe without any mysteries left unresolved. I'm just hoping to get all the mysteries left by the TV series and EoE answered, even if I have to watch them a few times to get it.

[CanonRAP]

There's no prequel. Read the whole thread.

My bad, didn't really bother to catch up.

Though really, EoE should've been the very last, since it is "The End".

[Reichu]

Though really, EoE should've been the very last, since it is "The End".
Didn't stop "Final Fantasy". (Hey, I'm allowed to use that extraordinarily stale fan observation at least once. :P )

[Defiled one]

IoL maybe its the same plot line has ff7 advent children.."sarcasm"

10 years have passed and rei clones appear to revive reiroth!!! "insert chorus"

But shinji will stop them with his big badass...knife?

[Cesternino53]

So we are getting four mid-quels of pretty much unknown content. Some part of me (not necessarily a small part of me) wishes they would just drop the project. You know what will happen? A bunch of people who have not seen the show will see the movies and assume they know everything about EVA. And if the movies are too "kiddish" it will be a harsh suprise when they see the real series. Admit it you guys. You like being in the semi-elite group of EVA gurus.

[Reichu]

What is a "mid-quel"?

And... who are you calling "semi"-elite? Nyuk nyuk nyuk.

But seriously, I've got enough to do that I can't really worry about theoretical st00pid n00bs of the future any more than I can worry about all of the st00pid n00bs out there right now. They're pretty much the last thing on my mind in terms of Reground.

[Cesternino53]

A mid-quel is something that takes place during the middle of the chronology of a previous completed work of fiction. But perhaps that wasnt the best word...

Are 1-3 side stories or retellings? I understand that 4 is a completely new ending.

[Reichu]

1 to 3 occur during the timespan of #01 to #24; 4 is, yup, Ending #3. They'll be apparently utilizing some of the groundwork (keyframe animation and crap) from the original series in some way, so that would imply some recycled content. Aside from various vagueries, though, there really isn't very much information available at all.

I've become inclined to just wait for concrete details, myself.

[Cesternino53]

I've become inclined to just wait for concrete details, myself.

For the best perhaps. I'm just glad 1-3 aren't a retelling of the story. 4 then, should start right where episode 24 left off. But come, do we really need 3 endings to overanalyze to death?

[Reichu]

I'm just glad 1-3 aren't a retelling of the story.
It's hard to say what the hell they are right now.

4 then, should start right where episode 24 left off. But come, do we really need 3 endings to overanalyze to death?
Naw. Once we get to 5, though, we'll be set.

[CanonRAP]

You know what will happen? A bunch of people who have not seen the show will see the movies and assume they know everything about EVA. And if the movies are too "kiddish" it will be a harsh suprise when they see the real series.

Actually, I was thinking the same thing just now...I would find it hilarious if the REva (or even the LAM) folks came onto forums like this and started jabbering about stuff they saw on the movie, and to point out the 'errors' in these years-old threads.

But then, it's not like we don't get new people, like, every half-month or so.

[Defiled one]

trust me if the movie end like pokemon or something....we will have a horde of brats blabering incoherent stuff...

the horror.....

[NAveryW]

we will have a horde of brats blabering incoherent stuff...
Isn't that what we seem like to most people anyway? XD

[Defiled one]

No, its Evangenglish!!! there is a diference....you have to learn how to speak it properly..10 years at least...intensive course with teacher Asuka and Ayanami..

[Defiled one]

New information....from the new movie..at least the first one... aparently IS ALREADY MADE THE FIRST PART...just making some arragements...you know..the things...

PREQUEL (http://www.animenewsservice.com/)


the whole first part of the movie will be of Rei and Kaworu....before the Angels....more like nagging about their schools days...


OPINIONS..?

[NAveryW]

Very interesting indeed... I'm not quite sure how this will go, but it will be good to see more of Kaworu. But will this mean that in this version of the story, Rei will already know Kaworu? Ah well, this is the one that Anno wrote the scenario for, so this will probably be quite telling.

[Magami No ER]

the whole first part of the movie will be of Rei and Kaworu
....I still am glad to read this.

[Reichu]

Since this is clearly going to be AU, we will not be dealing with Kaworu.

This will be Kaworu In Appearance Only.

:ph34r:

I already expressed my sentiments over the latest news at the EMF thread (http://www.evamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=51599#51599).

[Defiled one]

Me?..I just want this feeling back (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31DZ4J5fofM) ...Desperation and hope mixed in a wonderfull melody to my ears.

[Magami No ER]

This will be Kaworu In Appearance Only.

Since I've come to know and LOVE the Leijiverse, a series of anime that almost seem connected (and damn well would be great if that were so), but are not due to the fact that Matsumoto is almost "hostile" to the idea of contnuity and consistency, I just don't really find this something that will hinder my viewing this production, anymore.
While, for example, Captain Harlock is certainly a different man for the most part in the orginal series than the subsequent ones, and even when allusions are made to the first one, the plot points don't connect. He is, however, the same character to me. even when his "appearence <only>" changes character designs a bit. =P I guess it's easy to do this for Matsumoto's characters because he himself always changes the stories for them, and how they interact with recurring characters. It's just how he rolls.
Now, while it may not be as simple to shift my thinking in such a way for Evangelion, I find this not so different, in retrospect, to my early attempts to help explain, from my pov, various aspects of the orginal show with my Kaworu doujin.
As for being canonical, a big issue regarding this series, I just don't see the character's orginal personalities(meta-versions of what was orginally created) of as to having that much meaning for the orginal prodcution team, even Anno, anymore. The show's a commodity and a big part of their professional, and perhaps....personal at one time, lives.
In short, I'll merely enjoy it if it's good. Especially since it's Kaworu and Rei. In actual animation.

[KatayokuのTenshi]

Just because the first part of the movie is about the children doesen't mean it is about the children together surely. It could just be a bit of prequal i.e Rei observing the nonsensical exploits of her class mates. Asuka graduating from university (I find it hard to believe that a fourteen year old could complete an undergraduate course btw) what did she study anyway? Shinji with his teacher whoever this mystery bod may be and Kaworu in Selee's education center or what ever.

[Mr. Tines]

I find it hard to believe that a fourteen year old could complete an undergraduate course btw) what did she study anyway?

There are cases of people as young, or younger, doing mathematics degrees - that's a subject that just requires raw innate talent. Those kids, having been hot-housed through all the educational hurdles and alienated from either age or classroom peer-groups often end up as masses of neuroses.

Doesn't that just sound like a Second Child we all know?

[AnonymousEvafan]

There are cases of people as young, or younger, doing mathematics degrees - that's a subject that just requires raw innate talent. Those kids, having been hot-housed through all the educational hurdles and alienated from either age or classroom peer-groups often end up as masses of neuroses.

Doesn't that just sound like a Second Child we all know?

That sounds like something Asuka would be proud of. Tho I do feel sorry for her I still wouldn't want to know her projecting her issues onto others and all.

[JFaulkner]

In my opinion, the new material will only be worth watching if it manages to give some significant insight into the human dilemma of making sense of an apparently senseless world.

If all it does is introduce a stream of new plotlines for the sake of perpetuating infinite discussions among the fan communities, superfluid shots of Misato's "curves" based on the latest fluid dynamics models, allusions to every religion and philosopher under the sun (to look "cool"), and countless associated merchandise & dvd updates, then get me the next bus out of town.

I have always taken Anno's "In other words, we're offering viewers to think by themselves, so that each person can imagine his/her own world. ... Don't expect to be catered to all the time. We all have to find our own answers" as a call for critical thinking and "soul-searching", not just with respect to the anime plot, but through the anime, with respect to our real lives. Therefore, there is the real danger, in my opinion, that with the new material, many more people will become infatuated with just the anime plot & characters in themselves, and become blind to their own realities - as if the anime plot & characters in themselves serve as a deus ex machina which would help to give a greater meaning to our lives.

[Kurrupted]

Me?..I just want this feeling back (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31DZ4J5fofM) ...Desperation and hope mixed in a wonderfull melody to my ears.

Oh, wow. That's absolutely beautiful...

[Ornette]

Oh, wow. That's absolutely beautiful...
You have renewal version of EoE? Or a non-region 1/region 2-UK EoE?

The first time I popped in my Manga Entertainment EoE disc, I watched the root menu probably 10 or so times before starting the movie. And after the movie I think I watched it another 10 times, before watching the movie again. I thought that it was really well done, and sets the mood.

[Reichu]

In my opinion, the new material will only be worth watching if it manages to give some significant insight into the human dilemma of making sense of an apparently senseless world.
Does that really describe the heart and soul of what "Evangelion" is about? The mental image I get is of a show like "South Park". ::p

[JFaulkner]

Does that really describe the heart and soul of what "Evangelion" is about? The mental image I get is of a show like "South Park". ::p
In my opinion, perhaps. A lot of the characters, in particular Shinji, were running away from a greater reality which they refuse to acknowledge. Facing up to this shocked them. Shinji started sinking into the utter pits of despair after realizing how superficial he was. Where does he go from here? What sense is there in living? His "world" has been decimated; what remains for him? How can he bear to go on with his individual existence, with all this wretched pain associated with it? In a way, this reminds me of the story of Job.

Also, from Anno:


" [
The year: 2015.

A world where, fifteen years before, over half the human population perished.

......

This is a worldview drenched in a vision of pessimism.

A worldview where the story starts only after any traces of optimism have been removed.

And in that world, a 14-year-old boy shrinks from human contact.

And he tries to live in a closed world where his behavior dooms him, and he has abandoned the attempt to understand himself.

......

A cowardly young man who feels that his father has abandoned him, and so he has convinced himself that he is a completely unnecessary person, so much so that he cannot even commit suicide.

And there is a 29-year-old woman who lives life so lightly as to barely allow the possibility of a human touch.

She protects herself by having only surface level relationships, and running away."


When I read this, it was like a lightning bolt, because I immediately saw how relevant this is in real life. A motif is trying to find that personal truth which can render the most miserable, abject, "God-forsaken", dirt-ridden, "loneliest-person-in-the-world-oh-my-god-who-can-understand-me-oh-my-god-why-is-there-so-much-pain-and-suffering-in-this-world," situation worth struggling through - a hedonistic approach is not enough (Misato).

[kaos]

The latest news:


The latest issue of the Japanese edition of Newtype Magazine includes many new details on Gainax's upcoming Rebuild Of Evangelion movies:

No longer constrained by technological limitation of 12 years ago, Director Hideaki Anno is said to be happy that he can finally recreate Eva "as he wanted it to be" in the beginning.

Production planning on the "first part" movie is now complete and now being passed off to the drawing phase.

Anno is now working on the script for the second movie.

The film project will retain many members of the TV series, allowing for the full chemistry that created Eva to work again.

The first movie will occur around the time of the events of the episode 5-6 2 part story arch of the TV series and climax with the climax being Operation Yashima involving Shinji's use of the positron sniper rifle. Anno says that because of technical limitations it didn't come out entirely as he planned the first time around and he wants to do his concept of the story right this time. Shinji Higuchi (director: Sinking Of Japan) will collaborate on the Yashima segments.

New characters will begin to appear as of the second movie.

Uniform designs will be the same as the "Kou Gekijouban" works. The Nerv and Seele logos will be changed to reflect a symbolism surrounding the garden of eden story and the tree / fruit of forbidden knowledge. The NERV logo will be changed to show a fruit with a chunk bitten out of it, the new SEELE logo will reflect the image of a fruit with a serpent (Satan) coiled around it.

[Dr. Nick]

Uniform designs will be the same as the "Kou Gekijouban" works. The Nerv and Seele logos will be changed to reflect a symbolism surrounding the garden of eden story and the tree / fruit of forbidden knowledge. The NERV logo will be changed to show a fruit with a chunk bitten out of it, the new SEELE logo will reflect the image of a fruit with a serpent (Satan) coiled around it.

Hello, alternate Evangelion.

[Raven138]

End of Evangelion was the perfect conclusion for the series. They should just leave it alone.

*agrees with this*

[Crazy Penguin]

Uniform designs will be the same as the "Kou Gekijouban" works.

The what what what?

[Jabberwok]

The what what what?
"Kou Gekijouban" refers to the original TV series plus movies, where as the new project is being refered to as "Shin Gekijouban".

In short, the uniforms are not being redesigned in the new films.

[Crazy Penguin]

Oh. Well they could've just said that.

[Magami No ER]

Interesting that such an iconic element of Evangelion is being revised, if it is just a symbol.

[Defiled one]

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/8431/1162909394nt1nw2.jpg

VS

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/4091/1162909394nt2iw7.jpg


I sure, want to see the bad guys...This is gonna be sweet...

[Ark]

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/8431/1162909394nt1nw2.jpg

VS

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/4091/1162909394nt2iw7.jpg


I sure, want to see the bad guys...This is gonna be sweet...


I don't get it?

[DarthMigit]

I don't get it?
um...I guess the top picture is of the "good" guys, and the bottom is of the "bad" guys. I have never seen Eva artwork so clearly define the gap between pro/antagonists, does this refer to the touted lack of subtlety in Rebuild?



EVIL REI!!:devil:

[Defiled one]

Oh..you have no idea....

[Reichu]

"Kou Gekijouban" refers to the original TV series plus movies, where as the new project is being refered to as "Shin Gekijouban".
Gekijouban refers ONLY to the movies. It literally means "theatrical edition". "Terebi-ban" would be the TV series, and "mangaban"... well, guess.

I'll need to look up the kanji for whatever this "kougekijouban" thing is later...

[Magami No ER]

Saw that fold out on Eva Monkey, thankfully the character designs still look sharp, even tricky Kaworu(only Sadamoto design I don't prefer).
But damn does Pen^2 look tiny. = l
Also, I don't personally mind that they've separate the two main "sets" of characters with the apparent attempt to distinguish/simplify them. I mean, take into account that most of the fanbase(with the $$$ primed for shelling out) will be quite knowledgeable about the more convoluted characters already. Anyway, I'm gald Anno is finally doing Eva his way(where have I heard that before, eh Mincho Bold card?), in terms of available resources. I expect to see movies that I'll enjoy, regardless if I happen to still prefer the orginal series/movies after eventually viewing it all.

[CanonRAP]

Anyway, I'm gald Anno is finally doing Eva his way(where have I heard that before, eh Mincho Bold card?)

George Lucas & Star Wars?

[Magami No ER]

True as well. :P
But yeah, that comment Anno made just brought to mind the begining of text of Death.

[Reichu]

The truth is...

Anno always wanted Pen-Pen to speak annoying pidgin Japanese and be prone to bouts of inane physical "comedy".

[NAveryW]

The truth is...

Anno always wanted Pen-Pen to speak annoying pidgin Japanese and be prone to bouts of inane physical "comedy".
Liar. OMFG SECRET TEXT!!!1

[Ark]

Liar. OMFG SECRET TEXT!!!1

B A N G !!!!

[kaos]

New information:


Rebuild of Evangelion Release Scheduled (http://www.animenation.net/news/index.php?id=10820)

According to Sponichi Annex, executive director Hideaki Anno has announced that the first new Evangelion movie will open in Japanese theaters on September 1st. Furthermore, for the new series of four movies, two of the katakana characters in the Japanese spelling of "Evangelion" will be changed, resulting in "Ivangelion" becoming "Wevangeliwon." Reportedly, additional details and a 15 second theatrical trailer will be officially released on the 17th.

The article also states that the Evangelion franchise has generated 6,000 types of merchandise since its 1995 debut, earning roughly 150 billion yen.

[DarthMigit]

The 17th of this month?

[meriel]

Wevangeliwon

say what now?

[BLACKANGEL32076]

...and GAINAX gives their fans yet another WTF moment.

[Dark_Shiki]

...and GAINAX gives their fans yet another WTF moment.

When have they not done that to us?

[CanonRAP]

Oh my. The end of Wevangeliwon, indeed.

Seriously, Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

(I just watched FMP:TSR...)

[Defiled one]

Does Seele evil corporation gonna change to Weta Corporation? Get it...from the live action movie...maybe they are the ones that pissed Anno and now hes gonna take revenge!!!

[Ornette]

AA posted this over at EMF:

the 15 second movie trailer: http://eva.yahoo.co.jp/gekijou/index.html#movie

[Defiled one]

Thats the most..beautifull trailer I have ever seen in my life....so much darkness

[Ark]

Pretty much what I expected. Glad they're staying with the classical music though.

When they say new machine I hope they're not talking about Misato having a new car or something.

[Ridley-X4]

Awww, I was expecting some footage.

Meh, I guess it's better to be spoiled later, I guess.

[Richter Belmond]

When they say new machine I hope they're not talking about Misato having a new car or something.The japanese version of the text explicitely stated "new Eva" (atarashii Eva)
.

[Len]

....Wevangelion..? Shoot me. Gainax has done it again.

[Reichu]

http://www.evacommentary.org/images_random/life-of-brian_pilate_weva.jpg

[Defiled one]

Everytime I heard this name, it makes me geeky and on fire!!!

[Tidusauron12]

Despite all the negative publicity this is getting. I'm really pumped about these 4 movies...

[Reichu]

Despite all the negative publicity this is getting
The publicity isn't negative. It's pretty neutral, I'd say.

However, it is the duty of old-school geeks to be cynical. "Hope for the best, expect the worst", etc., etc.

[Tidusauron12]

old-school geeks

You're my favourite, Reichu. ^_^

[KatayokuのTenshi]

However, it is the duty of old-school geeks to be cynical. "Hope for the best, expect the worst", etc., etc.

Or in the case of LAEM: BURN IT WITH FIRE. ;)

[Bezerker]

Found a picture of the new Adam:

http://wii.qj.net/uploads/articles_module/59451/wii_hardware_wht.png

[Reichu]

Looks more like one of the MAGI to mii.

But what do I know.

[Len]

http://www.evacommentary.org/images_random/life-of-brian_pilate_weva.jpg

'chu you are a god. :lol: