need a little help with some Yuri

[airvault2k]

need some good Yuri to see it can be subbed or dubbed i dont care i try to find some but cant :( so can u help me out plz guy, that would be cool ^_^

[ZoharContact]

This thread (http://www.animenation.net/forums/showthread.php?t=189716) has a lot of series information in it.

And here's another list (http://www.yuricon.org/list/index.html), but expect a good number of the characters listed to be speculation only.

[samsama]

I can honestly tell you its going to be hard to find yuri a lot of the time. But if you look up Shoujo Ai you might have a better chance (it means female love). Just like for guys it Shounen Ai. Unfortunately in AMerica its more acceptable for Yaoi love then Yuri Love. ;_; Which is sad cause I like Yuri too. But I bet you can find some stuff searching for Shoujo Ai. Although there is a chance you get some hentai... O_O

[ArcaJ]

need some good Yuri to see it can be subbed or dubbed i dont care i try to find some but cant :( so can u help me out plz guy, that would be cool ^_^

the best I can do for you is point you toward a forum. www.shoujoai.com has a pretty good resource for finding yuri anime, manga and games. Just look around the forum. www.lililicious.net is another good source with mainly yuri manga scanslations. (they have a LOT)

Since yuri isn't anywhere near as prevalent as shounen-ai, there isn't as much. But currently, there are a lot more titles appearing with yuri in them. Those two sites are a great place to start looking.

::HUGS::

Arca Jeth

[Animematt55]

Since yuri isn't anywhere near as prevalent as shounen-ai, there isn't as much. But currently, there are a lot more titles appearing with yuri in them. Those two sites are a great place to start looking.

::HUGS::

Arca Jeth
Yuri sure isnt anywhere near as popular. There are tons of these one shot mangas comign to America all the time that are only about boys humping. Yet, yuri with good story doesn't even get looked at. Some company even made a special off-shoot company just for hardcore yaoi hentai... >.>

[Defiled one]

think about this way....how many pron exists compensates the yuri, what do they need is to use a diferent aproach.. girl on girl... is like, seen that... it as to be something that people never thought yet...Like I don know but...we never saw a maid and mistress relanshinship out side hentai.. nor do we saw a tentacle girl fall in love with another girl....is just is too dangerous to invest in these ideas its better to stick in the safe Yaoi were you can profit.

[Animematt55]

think about this way....how many pron exists compensates the yuri, what do they need is to use a diferent aproach.. girl on girl... is like, seen that... it as to be something that people never thought yet...Like I don know but...we never saw a maid and mistress relanshinship out side hentai.. nor do we saw a tentacle girl fall in love with another girl....is just is too dangerous to invest in these ideas its better to stick in the safe Yaoi were you can profit.
what? i am not following you...

[Defiled one]

You might find this funny but i also dont know what you are not following .because i dont understand what you are following...I mean...Ah forget it....

[Animematt55]

You might find this funny but i also dont know what you are not following .because i dont understand what you are following...I mean...Ah forget it....
So i says to mabele, i says....

is it just me or are yaoi fangirls becomign delusional?? I mean more so...

[Defiled one]

I am not delusional..I was just pointing that...what the hell was i poingting? I know mean that Shonen ai is safer to invest than Yuri.. because of hentai and pron.

[Crawlspace]

I am not delusional..I was just pointing that...what the hell was i poingting? I know mean that Shonen ai is safer to invest than Yuri.. because of hentai and pron.
Not really (if I'm understanding you correctly, the last line threw me off some). If you're talking the porn side, as it involves the buying practices of many, many more men than women, girl/girl porn is a great investment. That's why there's so much of it. Guys in general want sex, not romance. It's the reverse for females, in general. Women want sexy men in romantic situations, but don't necessarily need hardcore sex to stay interested. That's why there's so much more nonpornographic boy/boy material available than there is girl/girl. Basically, you'll sell a lot more Gravitation than you will Maria-sama, because the first has cute and sexy guys all over the place to attract the female audience in droves, while the second has no fanservice for the majority of guys and tells a slow story of romance and friendship that doesn't involve any guys whatsoever, which looses some of the female audience.

[Defiled one]

finaly a person who understands.. guys want... action!!! they dont want anything else.... believe me put tentacle in a shoujo ai and the anime is a sucess... they literaly would dragg themselvs gnawing dvd murmuring something like flesh, flesh!!! we want flesh!!

[Crawlspace]

finaly a person who understands.. guys want... action!!! they dont want anything else....
I prefer to say guys in general or on average. I know some guys who don't like porn, but do like good romances. And, yes, they're straight. :P But they do seem to be a small minority, which is a shame.

[Animematt55]

I prefer to say guys in general or on average. I know some guys who don't like porn, but do like good romances. And, yes, they're straight. :P But they do seem to be a small minority, which is a shame.
Yes, we are a minority. When i was in HS, i always heard guys talking about porn...icky.....

[Defiled one]

Yeah without romance.. its doenst fill the void. ;_;

[Animematt55]

Yeah without romance.. its doenst fill the void. ;_;
If there is porn, there is no romance. Hentai is well....hentai. Yaoi, from all i have scene.....it is just stuff liek rape. I dont see any romance in any kind of porn

[DocWatson]

If there is porn, there is no romance. Hentai is well....hentai. Yaoi, from all i have scene.....it is just stuff liek rape. I dont see any romance in any kind of porn
Then you haven't been watching the right porn; the two are not mutually exclusive, just a bit rare. EL, Parade Parade, and (IIRC) Stainless Night all feature romatic yuri. The out of print End of Summer (which is excellent) and First Loves, plus Pia Carrot, Class Reunion Again, The Pianist and Endless Serenade are examples of heterosexual romatic hentai. For romantic yaoi, try Kizuna (which also over-the-top melodrama ^_^ ).

Edit: Well, Kizuna is actually more shounen ai—sorry!

[Defiled one]

If there is porn, there is no romance. Hentai is well....hentai. Yaoi, from all i have scene.....it is just stuff liek rape. I dont see any romance in any kind of porn


well hentai has better plot... and everything is pretier and at least it fills the void...

[Crawlspace]

well hentai has better plot... and everything is pretier and at least it fills the void...
Better plot than what? I very much doubt that "get girl naked and have sex, often in a violent manner" is a better plot than is contained in 99% of any nonpornographic series. Prettier is subjective. I think Utena is prettier. But, yeah, it does fill the sex void, as we don't get a lot of sex in regular series. The only one I recall is Kare Kano, though I'm sure there's others.

[Defiled one]

well, I prefer Manga and pictures than ,anime hentai, it self :doh: Yaoi is prettier but I am a picky on what i see..I mean two guys and sudently go bang, for a cheasy reason, the same with Yuri also aplies, doesnt appeal me...I like those litle moments of happiness.. watching the stars talking, talking about what is going to happen next.. you know, the melancholy of life and knowing what are they feeling in a sense, same with Yuri.

Mean its shounen ai and shoujo ai.. we dont need to see action in the first episode, we want background, we want motives.:heart:

[ZoharContact]

Crawlspace, are you saying that Kare Kano has Yuri in it!? And not a veiled or subtle relationship?

Anyway, I'm another one who goes for the romance aspect. I could hardly care less about the sex part (furthermore, if it's poorly situated - and it usually is - it detracts from the believability of the relationship), but I wish Yuri had more societal commentary in the storylines. Utena makes a rather good attempt at it, Kannadzuki no Miko doesn't make a bad attempt at it. Most stories, though, simply seem to be too happy-go-lucky to suspend my disbelief. Although I see a somewhat fair amount of manga that approach the subject in earnest. (Like Blue Flowers! ^_^)

...Or maybe I'm just a fiend for angst?

[DazzleKitty]

I think one girl in Kare Kano likes other girls. But, it's been so long since I watched the anime and read that part of the manga...

There is also another part where a girl thought another girl may have a crush on her, but it was sort of a misunderstanding.

[Crawlspace]

Crawlspace, are you saying that Kare Kano has Yuri in it!? And not a veiled or subtle relationship?
Sorry, no, didn't mean to confuse. I meant it's the only non-hentai anime I've seen that has a sex scene in it, rather than just something implied. Though as DazzleKitty pointed out, one of the supporting girls seems to be into other pretty girls, but nothing comes of it in the anime.

[DocWatson]

Sorry, no, didn't mean to confuse. I meant it's the only non-hentai anime I've seen that has a sex scene in it, rather than just something implied. Though as DazzleKitty pointed out, one of the supporting girls seems to be into other pretty girls, but nothing comes of it in the anime.I vaugely recall this—did she have any specific interest in a cast member, at least before she fell in love with the guy?

[Animematt55]

well, I prefer Manga and pictures than ,anime hentai, it self :doh: Yaoi is prettier but I am a picky on what i see..I mean two guys and sudently go bang, for a cheasy reason, the same with Yuri also aplies, doesnt appeal me...I like those litle moments of happiness.. watching the stars talking, talking about what is going to happen next.. you know, the melancholy of life and knowing what are they feeling in a sense, same with Yuri.

Mean its shounen ai and shoujo ai.. we dont need to see action in the first episode, we want background, we want motives.:heart:
i am really having trouble following what you're typing. Maybe it is just me though.
Care to explain a bit more? You go from talkign about sex (i think) to talking about watching stars....

[earsofdoom]

I've alway's seen sex as a stepping stone of a relationship, ppl like to bond intimately with the person they love... though chance's of seeing this in the intertainment business is slim to none. If it's depicted well (show's romantic scene's leading up to it and the very beggining... nothing graphic though, and then show's after it's finished and both ppl cuddling or saying sweet "i love you"s) you get the feeling the ppl are closer as a couple. though I've only seen scene's like that maybe twice. sex has alway's been thought of as "dirty" and "porn" such but that's just not true. It would be very easy to represent this in a Yuri anime.... but also very easy to screw up. I think it would be very interesting to see a Yuri relationship afterward's since there's so many thing's that could happen (the girl's could become closer, become more shy around eachother, more openly effectionite in public, etc).
well that's my 2 cent's on the subject at hand. as for some help? the word Yuri is used differently by lot's of ppl so just be sure they mean it as "romance" other wise you may accidently scar yourself for life lol.

[earsofdoom]

i am really having trouble following what you're typing. Maybe it is just me though.
Care to explain a bit more? You go from talkign about sex (i think) to talking about watching stars....

he/she mean's sex that is part of a romantic relationship, (most peaple would call that "makeing love")

[Animematt55]

he/she mean's sex that is part of a romantic relationship, (most peaple would call that "makeing love")
Ok, i get it now. but you normally don't see that far ahead. And in Yaoi it is usually just one shot manga which don't have enough story line in them....

[samsama]

Of course sex can take a nasty turn... its when Bukake and the like gets involved. although I am into kinky things myself... but mostly bondage gear and the psychological aspects of the dom and the sub. Thats just me though. Anything else though IM like YECH!

[Animematt55]

Of course sex can take a nasty turn... its when Bukake and the like gets involved. although I am into kinky things myself... but mostly bondage gear and the psychological aspects of the dom and the sub. Thats just me though. Anything else though IM like YECH!
yeah for bondage!

[ZoharContact]

Sorry, no, didn't mean to confuse. I meant it's the only non-hentai anime I've seen that has a sex scene in it, rather than just something implied. Though as DazzleKitty pointed out, one of the supporting girls seems to be into other pretty girls, but nothing comes of it in the anime.Ah, you must be talking about Sakura? (I think her name was Sakura? Just confirmed (http://karekano.cjb.net/) it, yes.) Yeah, that's not a Yuri relationship. I've heard speculation about Rika and Aya, though, I think. They're probably the same people who would speculate about Momoko and Ichigo from Shimotsuma Monogatari, though.

I was just wondering if there was something in the manga, since it goes very far beyond where the series left off.It would be very easy to represent this in a Yuri anime.... but also very easy to screw up.One instance of a series that doesn't mess it up is Kuchibiru Tameiki Sakurairo. It's on the Yuricon list, which I guess I shouldn't link here. It's an anthology, but a very, very good one. One series that messes it up big time is Shoujo Sect. The characters and relationships in that series are hardly believable at all, but I guess that's not really the main goal. It's basically lesbian porn, but the characters are lovable, and very, very well drawn. (Actually, you could say it's like a lesbian sex manual, in a way.)

I didn't last beyond the first episode of Maka Maka, but Rosa Chinensis says it's worthwhile, at certain parts. And, actually, the scene at the end of Kannadzuki no Miko (the manga) is quite good, now that I think about it. Although I don't like the manga as a whole very much.yeah for bondage!Have you seen Puni Puni Poemi?

[earsofdoom]

Kuchibiru Tameiki Sakurairo? did someone scanlate it yet? (I've heard good thing's about it) I remember downloading the first chapter of shoujo sect I had no idea it had sex in it (it looked to cute and innocent), i haven't read past the first page where something "happen's" but It looked alright... nothing really perverted happened and no-one got hurt on the page, i dought you'll find anything very romantic in it though lol

[Animematt55]

Have you seen Puni Puni Poemi?
of course....but that is a secret, ok? Girl's in skin tight leather always kick ***.

[rosa_chinensis]

Kuchibiru Tameiki Sakurairo? did someone scanlate it yet?

It's being scanlated by Lililicious. Look for the Morinaga Milk one-shot from each issue of Yuri Shimai (these loosely interconnected one-shots were only given a common name a few months back, when the first tankoubon came out. Actually, that might just be the name of the one compilation-- I have no idea whether the next volume will be Kuchibiru Tameiki Sakurairo 2 or something completely different)-- "Even if We're Not Friends," "A Kiss, Love, and a Prince," "This Love From I Can't Remember When," "The Summer Closest to Heaven," and "Real Love." We should have the Morinaga one-shot from the first issue of Yuri Hime (the new incarnation of Yuri Shimai), "Cherries For Your Lips," out soon too.

[ZoharContact]

Kuchibiru Tameiki Sakurairo? did someone scanlate it yet? (I've heard good thing's about it) I remember downloading the first chapter of shoujo sect I had no idea it had sex in it (it looked to cute and innocent), i haven't read past the first page where something "happen's" but It looked alright... nothing really perverted happened and no-one got hurt on the page, i dought you'll find anything very romantic in it though lolIn Shoujo Sect, there is not a single chapter without a sex scene, no matter how contrived it may be. If you're looking for a romance story, look elsewhere. The characters are very well drawn, though.of course....but that is a secret, ok? Girl's in skin tight leather always kick ***.If they're being voiced by Mitsuishi Kotono, I'm inclined to agree with you. Incidentally, she voiced Mireille in Noir and Juri in Utena. She's so awesome!

[Crawlspace]

Incidentally, she voiced Mireille in Noir and Juri in Utena. She's so awesome!
Now contrast those with Usagi from Sailor Moon and Excel from Excel Saga. She's even awesomer for being able to go back and forth like that. Her and Aya Hisakawa, both.

[earsofdoom]

For anyone who's a Strawberry Shake fan the auther did a one-shot (at least i think it was a one shot.... if there's more plz tell me) called "V-hunter" (video not vampire) it's a pretty funny story where some girl watch's an old VHS tape... unfortunately for her it's the 666th time the tape has been watched so a demon come's out and another girl come's to save her (she agree's without reading the contract) and after the job is done is given a bill of 3,000,000 of course she can't pay it so the video hunter suggest other way's of "payment", i cracked up when i read "wait.... your not "that" way are you!?!" it's a little ecchi but being made by the same person who did strawberry shake it's more cute and funny then anything, the last page was especially funny (.... and from the look's of thing's i think that girl is gonna rent old VHS tape's ALLOT more often now ;) ).... is it just me or does that girl look ALLOT like Julia?

[rosa_chinensis]

For anyone who's a Strawberry Shake fan the auther did a one-shot (at least i think it was a one shot.... if there's more plz tell me) called "V-hunter" (video not vampire)

Yup, it's a one-shot.
Fans of Strawberry Shake may also enjoy Hayashiya's other big yuri manga series Hayate Cross Blade, which is being scanlated by Otenba.
She's also done some nice yuri doujinshi (for series like Marimite, Utena, Sailor Moon, and KareKano) under the circle name Jesus Drug (and some not-so-nice yuri doujinshi under the circle name Slime Inn). Lililicious is working on some of them.
But beware of her adult yuri-ish work Ultra Sword if you don't like rape. Same goes for Morinaga Milk's adult works, most of which are a far cry from his/her works in Yuri Shimai/Hime.

[earsofdoom]

Im a bit shocked at her Ultra Sword manga, but i really like her other work's like strawberry shake... it's cute and funny but also has serious moment's like Julia experianceing angst and from what the Barbour shop girl say's you can tell she was in a sexual relationship with one of the z-lay member's (i hope to see more of z-lay in the chapter's to come... they're pretty intertaining character's) by any chance is the newest chapter almost finished being translated? also what's Hayate blade like?

[VidelCoolGirl]

The only thing about more shoujo-ai is the fact that it all seems to have more of a apect of "tall horny girl nearly rapes the cuter, not horny girl." I dont watch series like Strawberry Panic, KnD and things of that nature becasue of that. Utena, and mroe mangaka (Not that Maka Maka crap, I cant stand that manga) are nicer, because you have the romantic aspect to only worry about, no wanna-have-sex mood all the time.

BAV, Strawberry Shake, Noir, Utena, and Haruka And Michiru are all the best by the way. Well, Ami and Makoto are cool too, but this comment has nothing to do with anything.

[rosa_chinensis]

Im a bit shocked at her Ultra Sword manga, but i really like her other work's like strawberry shake... it's cute and funny but also has serious moment's like Julia experianceing angst and from what the Barbour shop girl say's you can tell she was in a sexual relationship with one of the z-lay member's (i hope to see more of z-lay in the chapter's to come... they're pretty intertaining character's) by any chance is the newest chapter almost finished being translated? also what's Hayate blade like?

Ultra Sword shocked me too the first time I read it.
Chapter 6 of Strawberry Shake is currently waiting to go into editing, so I can't really give you an estimate of when it might be out. Shouldn't be too far into the future, though.
Hayate Cross Blade is about this fighting school where the girls have to pair up into two-person teams. I'm not really a fan of it myself, but you can find summaries of the manga at http://okazu.blogspot.com if you're interested.

[ZoharContact]

Now contrast those with Usagi from Sailor Moon and Excel from Excel Saga. She's even awesomer for being able to go back and forth like that. Her and Aya Hisakawa, both.Yes, I like Hisakawa a whole lot, too. Though her voice is a lot more recognizable, probably because it has such a distinct pitch. She shows an incredible range of performance in Twelve Kingdoms (Incidentally, I'm really wondering how the relationships of the three girls develop in the books... I know... wishful thinking. Youko is married to her people. -_-)

Also, don't forget Kuwashima Houko. It would take more than one hand to count the occasions where I noticed her playing a role only because her name was in the credits, and I've been a fan of her's since Noir (Kirika). Other roles by her: Shoukei (Twelve Kingdoms), Satsuki (computer girl from X), Quon (RahXephon) among others listed here (http://www.tcp.com/~doi/seiyuu/kuwashima-houko/roles-anime.html). Read it, and be amazed!

Another excellent manga series that started in Yuri Shimai is Hatsukoi Shimai. The yuri is very light, but it is incredibly cute and heartwarming. (It might become heavier next volume... whenever that comes out.)

I also thought Sweet Blue Flowers was wonderful, and that's over at Lililicious. Actually just about any one-shot manga or otherwise in Yuri Shimai/Hime is very worthwhile, if you ask me. (I also like the short stories a whole lot, but I don't know if Lililicious translates them.)

[rosa_chinensis]

Another excellent manga series that started in Yuri Shimai is Hatsukoi Shimai. The yuri is very light, but it is incredibly cute and heartwarming. (It might become heavier next volume... whenever that comes out.)

I also thought Sweet Blue Flowers was wonderful, and that's over at Lililicious. Actually just about any one-shot manga or otherwise in Yuri Shimai/Hime is very worthwhile, if you ask me. (I also like the short stories a whole lot, but I don't know if Lililicious translates them.)

I second the recs of Hatsukoi Shimai and Sweet Blue Flowers. :)

As for the short stories, we did scanlate a couple from the first volume, but overall we found them to be not as compelling as the manga (particularly the manga of later volumes). We are working on the illustrated fairy tales from issue 4 onwards, but as of right now that's it for short stories.

[Animematt55]

dear god i am so behidn the times with yuri stuff.....

[badbaby92]

i really wanna read Hatsukoi Shimai but unfortunately Lililicious just translated the first chapter

[ZoharContact]

I found a wonderful surprise in the bookstore today! It's a manga called "blue". (It's big, with a nice indigo slip cover... and an name that's easy to remember. -_-; ) Although it skimps on the backgrounds, the art is remarkably realistic. The characters actually look Japanese, and there aren't any kana sound effects.

The characters and their interactions, also, were very realistic, so I found it to be quite refreshing. I highly recommend it! (Though it's also... rather cruel that way.)

[rosa_chinensis]

I found a wonderful surprise in the bookstore today! It's a manga called "blue". (It's big, with a nice indigo slip cover... and an name that's easy to remember. -_-; ) Although it skimps on the backgrounds, the art is remarkably realistic. The characters actually look Japanese, and there aren't any kana sound effects.

The characters and their interactions, also, were very realistic, so I found it to be quite refreshing. I highly recommend it! (Though it's also... rather cruel that way.)

You might want to mention that it doesn't have a happy ending (though that didn't deter me, I know there are people out there who prefer to only read yuri with happy endings). I'd second the recommendation to people who want a realistic-style yuri manga.
For people interested in buying it: Blue is by Nananan Kiriko. The ISBN is 8493340979. It used to be available from amazon.com for about $15, but it looks like it's out of stock there at the moment.... you can still find it at online bookstores for around that price or a little higher, which is cheaper than a few months ago when it was only available at comic stores, for $24 or so (the company got some distribution deal a little while back to get it in regular bookstores, yay!).
If you like Nananan's style, Lililicious has scanlated a couple short one-shots by her, from her one-shot collection Water. There's another scanlation group that's done (non-yuri) one-shots by her too-- try searching at manganews.net. There's also an (again, non-yuri) offering from her in Secret Comics Japan (ISBN: 1569313725).
Publisher's Weekly did an article on her a little while back that briefly talks about yuri: http://www.publishersweekly.com/article/CA6327715.html?text=kai%2Dming+cha

[ZoharContact]

You might want to mention that it doesn't have a happy ending (though that didn't deter me, I know there are people out there who prefer to only read yuri with happy endings). I'd second the recommendation to people who want a realistic-style yuri manga.I see. I considered it a spoiler, but I did want to talk about the ending, because it was like a reality check. It made me think, "Wow. I'll bet 3 out of 4 really good yuri relationships in Japanese high schools end like that." Further, it's something you'd expect a Japanese person to read and say, "Yeah, that was for the best." But from a lesbian standpoint, it really hurts! :'(

I guess I'm just a sucker for angst...

[rosa_chinensis]

I see. I considered it a spoiler, but I did want to talk about the ending, because it was like a reality check. It made me think, "Wow. I'll bet 3 out of 4 really good yuri relationships in Japanese high schools end like that." Further, it's something you'd expect a Japanese person to read and say, "Yeah, that was for the best." But from a lesbian standpoint, it really hurts! :'(

I guess I'm just a sucker for angst...

It's kind of a spoiler, but I guess I've gotten used to people asking me if something has a happy ending or not. lol Do you think I should go back and put spoiler tags around it?

Also, I'd agree about it being a reality check-- some of the Yuri Shimai/Hime stories, for example, seem to take place in a sort of fantasy world. You definitely couldn't say that about Blue. I agree with you that it's likely that most S (romantic relationships between schoolgirls, sometimes with physical expression) relationships in Japan end the way the one in Blue does.

[Crawlspace]

It's kind of a spoiler, but I guess I've gotten used to people asking me if something has a happy ending or not. lol Do you think I should go back and put spoiler tags around it?

You didn't really give details on why it was a bad ending, so I don't think spoiler tags would really be necessary. Actually, I think most of us would rather know before hand. Personally, knowing that it ends badly makes me happy, because now I know not to bother with it. I'm all for "reality," and I love my angst, but I want a good payoff for it in the end. I read as a form of escapism, after all. If I want depressing with a bad ending, I'll watch the news.

[earsofdoom]

^same for me, i like when a show does show all the stuff and the character's think "it will never work.." and stuff like that but find it to depressing when it simpy doesn't work (every now and then it's alright so long as it's not "to" depressing) im more of a fan of going against the odd's kinda show's, like in KnM it give's you the feeling "it's gonna be rough at time's but they'll make it."

[ZoharContact]

I understand. ^^ It was for the best, then. You two had best stay away from "blue."

I like these things for the escapism too, of course, but I also watch media to get a new perspective on... well, things in general. And "blue" helped me learn something new about Japanese society (or at least connected the dots so I saw something more clearly), so, mission accomplished! Since you're never reading it, though, should I summarize?The main character and her partner have many trials, and their love survives. At the end, the main character gets accepted to Tokyo University to study for her dream job, but she chooses to stay with her partner instead. Her partner pressures her to go, and tells her that she'll get married and live "normally" as gratitude to her parents for raising her.

A sad, but oh-so-very-Japanese lifestyle choice. My problem with it should be obvious, since living a "normal" life to please your parents sounds like some rather superficial gratitude to me. I think it should be considered more rewarding to expand their horizons, but alas, I'm an American.

[earsofdoom]

I might read it... for a minute there i thought you and Rosa were talking about the "one girl died from a sexual assult and the other commited suicide" ending of some anime/manga I've heard about. (simply TO depressing to even think about)

[ZoharContact]

I might read it... for a minute there i thought you and Rosa were talking about the "one girl died from a sexual assult and the other commited suicide" ending of some anime/manga I've heard about. (simply TO depressing to even think about)I said it was realistic. Remember? -_-;

By the way, on the exact opposite of the spectrum, my curiosity got the best of me and I watched the second half of Mai-Hime. Shizuru was really cool! ...Except, she wasn't...It's like they tried to make her into another Chikane. But Shizuru wasn't pretending to be absolutely insane.Not exactly a bad ending, but... I want to like her. I really do. But I have to rewrite the story in my mind to do so, basically. She would just be so cool! If not for that.

Does anyone know if she gets better in Mai-Otome? I heard she and Natsuki both make an appearance.

[ArcaJ]

Does anyone know if she gets better in Mai-Otome? I heard she and Natsuki both make an appearance.

Does it EVER! Natsuki and Shizuru are LIVING TOGETHER! It's pretty obvious they are a couple. They are very comfortable around each other with none of the weird ackwardness of Mai-HiME. While they don't get all lovey-dovey on screen Shizuru doesn't pass up the chance to ...well you'll see for yourself. ^_^

Also check out Aoi and Chie, Erstin adn Nina, and of course Arika and Mashiro (I like this pairing so much I wrote a story about them.) Mai-Otome is a chock-full of yuri subtext (and main-text). (Only one character really needs to die, die DIE!) Erm...check it out if you get the chance.

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Arca Jeth

[ZoharContact]

Erm...check it out if you get the chance.

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Arca JethI didn't read the tagged text, but thank you very much for the recommendation! I definitely will check it out. ^^

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Zohar

[earsofdoom]

Mai Otome get's bashed quite a bit but that's mostly becouse Mai hime was such a hit (if you only watched mai hime for the action i don't think you'd like Otome very much) though on it's own it's not a bad show... it maybe that i just can't put 2 and 2 together but what exactly did shizura do that made natsuki turn bright red? (i know who your talking about when you say one character has to die lol)

[ArcaJ]

Mai Otome get's bashed quite a bit but that's mostly becouse Mai hime was such a hit (if you only watched mai hime for the action i don't think you'd like Otome very much) though on it's own it's not a bad show... it maybe that i just can't put 2 and 2 together but what exactly did shizura do that made natsuki turn bright red? (i know who your talking about when you say one character has to die lol)

Umm...it was during the Coral Survival Training episode.

The administrators were hanging out by the pool and Shizuru was massaging Natsuki (who's in a thong!) Apparently SHizuru went a bit too low for public. ;)
In Mai-HiME Natsuki probably would have had her guns out. This proves just how close they are. (yay!)


ZoharContact: You don't have to worry about the spoiler text. It's just a list of confirmed and potential pairings in the show.

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Arca Jeth

[earsofdoom]

lol i can only imagine what happened when the yuri fan's saw episode 25 of mai hime and natsuki said she didn't love shizuru the same way.

[Crawlspace]

^You might want to put spoiler tags around that. But really, actions speak a whole lot louder than words. And Natsuki's "feelings" were laid out for all the world to see in that scene. So, as a yuri fan, I cheered and have no issues whatsoever with it, since it was pretty plain what was happening. And the last scene in the last episode of them together is just cute! ^_^

[ZoharContact]

Mai-Otome did it too. <_< The only lesbian character who shows her preference physically/concretely also happens to be insane/evil. And, yeah, she really needs to just die, die, DIE!

Shizuru and Natsuki were really cool, though.

[ArcaJ]

Mai-Otome did it too. <_< The only lesbian character who shows her preference physically/concretely also happens to be insane/evil. And, yeah, she really needs to just die, die, DIE!

Shizuru and Natsuki were really cool, though.

Actually, I was talking about Sergay. That buy is what we call a Yuri Blocker. A Yuri Blocker is a character usually (but not exclusively) male, whose idotic behavior blocks yuri pairings. He's usually the masquerades as a potential love interest but his personality is seriously lacking. His only real funtion is to inject artificial romantic angst into the female leads. Also guilty of this are:

Tate Yuuichi: Mai-HiME
Kanzaki Reito: Mai-HiME
Oogami Souma: Kannazuki no Miko
Nameless male student: Yami to Boushi to Hon no Tabibito
DEATH: Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon (I just had to add that one ^_^)
Ohtori Akio: Shoujo Kakumei Utena
And so-on.

Be on the lookout for yuri blockers in your neighborhood. Only together can we defeat this threat to yuri pairings.

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Arca Jeth

[earsofdoom]

for anyone who's looking to buy Mai Hime sunrise (the ones with the license) did a really sucky job, if you've been spoiled with the KnM box's and there extra's (so pretty...) you're going to be disapointed with the Mai Hime dvd's.

BTW Souma has been blocked indefinately :) lol

[Crawlspace]

^Actually, I think the primary problems with Hime are coming from The Ocean Group, since they're the ones handling the authoring and dubbing of the series. There's a thread in the Glitch Disc forum of AOD about it, started by Ocean, for anyone who feels a need to let them know about problems with the discs. General complaint is a lack of time code and subtitles that won't work on some player models (which has become typical of Bandai as of late - wonder what's going on over there).

[ZoharContact]

I'd rather direct my complaints towards characters like Nagi, Reito, and Akio because they're unbelievably (in the context of both "especially" and "not believable") manipulative bastards. They always just happen to know the right thing to do/say that makes female character x do something incredibly stupid!

...On the other hand, at least some people are willing to acknowledge that men have the capacity to be manipulative as well.

[earsofdoom]

I'd rather direct my complaints towards characters like Nagi, Reito, and Akio because they're unbelievably (in the context of both "especially" and "not believable") manipulative bastards. They always just happen to know the right thing to do/say that makes female character x do something incredibly stupid!

...On the other hand, at least some people are willing to acknowledge that men have the capacity to be manipulative as well.

are those "yuri blocker's" like Arcaj said? if they are the blame can't all fall on them entirely, remember some girls want to be straight becouse it's "the normal thing" they'll find any excuse to be with a guy even though they know full well they'd rather be with a girl. some of lililicous scanlation manga do a good job of showing this.

[ZoharContact]

are those "yuri blocker's" like Arcaj said? if they are the blame can't all fall on them entirely, remember some girls want to be straight becouse it's "the normal thing" they'll find any excuse to be with a guy even though they know full well they'd rather be with a girl. some of lililicous scanlation manga do a good job of showing this.Well, in my lexicon, "doing something stupid" is not akin to "becoming heterosexual." Certainly, I don't like it when a yuri character takes the path of least resistance at the expense of their true feelings, but that's a different matter. It's also a realistic matter, so I like seeing it addressed.

I dislike manipulators like Nagi (be they male or female) because they truly know too much about characters they have nothing to do with, thus knowing exactly what buttons to push to have them obey their every whim. In other words, it's not a yuri issue. It's just that the female characters often wind up being used too easily. Naturally, that ticks me off, especially when it's a character I really like.

As for "yuri blockers," I don't know about everybody else, but aside from being loud and being the source for horrible mecha filler, I really liked Souma. For the most part, he was the "perfect guy." His being "the perfect contender" makes it all the more meaningful when Himeko chooses Chikane. As for Tate... well, he doesn't so much as look at Natsuki or Shizuru, so he can have his run-of-the-mill relationship with Mai, because it has nothing to do with me. ^_^

[ArcaJ]

As for Tate... well, he doesn't so much as look at Natsuki or Shizuru, so he can have his run-of-the-mill relationship with Mai, because it has nothing to do with me. ^_^

<Rabid Yuri Fangilr mode>Mai's ramen and boobs belong to Mikoto-chan. If Tate tries anything, he'll meet the wrong end of Miroku. </Rabid Yuri Fangirl mode>

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Arca Jeth

[earsofdoom]

As for "yuri blockers," I don't know about everybody else, but aside from being loud and being the source for horrible mecha filler, I really liked Souma. For the most part, he was the "perfect guy." His being "the perfect contender" makes it all the more meaningful when Himeko chooses Chikane. As for Tate... well, he doesn't so much as look at Natsuki or Shizuru, so he can have his run-of-the-mill relationship with Mai, because it has nothing to do with me. ^_^

I liked Souma 2... but hated him 2 (I hate the person who im not rooting for) I liked the part he played as the "perfect... but to a fault" character, from what I've read in the commentary they made Souma unrealistic in order to show Chikane as the true love for Himeko She suffured for her, battle'd with her feeling and lost sometime's, she was just much more "human". and of course seeing him in the first episode screaming "GAHHH!!!! HIMEKO!!!!" while Chikane was kissing her made me fall out of my seat laughing (Aside from the sheer irony, it looks like he saw what's going on and is freaking out) ^_^

also sry Arca but Mai is stright as an arrow. :P

[Crawlspace]

also sry Arca but Mai is stright as an arrow. :P
I gotta agree there. At least in Hime (haven't seen all of Otome yet), she's set up with Tate right from the start, and when she wasn't fuming over him, she was making eyes at what's-his-name while angsting over Tate. Shizuru and Natsuke, on the other hand, were flirting openly with each other in episode three. It was pretty obvious right from the start where the main yuri couple was going to be... and where it wasn't.

[Otaku Ichise]

nice thread ^_^

[ArcaJ]

I gotta agree there. At least in Hime (haven't seen all of Otome yet), she's set up with Tate right from the start, and when she wasn't fuming over him, she was making eyes at what's-his-name while angsting over Tate. Shizuru and Natsuke, on the other hand, were flirting openly with each other in episode three. It was pretty obvious right from the start where the main yuri couple was going to be... and where it wasn't.

I reject your reality and replace it with my own. :P

To me, Mai's up for grabs by series end and in Otome she pretty much belongs to Mikoto.

As for Kannazuki no Miko, Souma's not a bad guy, he just needed a laxative.
earsofdoom, this one's for you. ^_^ http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/6710/baka1vg.jpg

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Arca Jeth

[ZoharContact]

I liked Souma 2... but hated him 2 (I hate the person who im not rooting for) I liked the part he played as the "perfect... but to a fault" character, from what I've read in the commentary they made Souma unrealistic in order to show Chikane as the true love for Himeko She suffured for her, battle'd with her feeling and lost sometime's, she was just much more "human".My thoughts exactly. ^_^and of course seeing him in the first episode screaming "GAHHH!!!! HIMEKO!!!!" while Chikane was kissing her made me fall out of my seat laughing (Aside from the sheer irony, it looks like he saw what's going on and is freaking out) ^_^Didn't we all? You were the one that posted the one page fan comic, right? (The one that replicates that scene as we all would have envisioned it.) I thought it was truly great. It quite handily summarized my thoughts on the matter.

Anyway, aside from being the "perfect... to a fault" contender and the character development he shows in the last parts of the series, Souma was just plain noisy, and he was even worse in the manga. (One of the main reasons I didn't like the manga.) Many dialogue bubbles of his have four or so lines devoted to his "Uooooooooo!"'s and "Kore wa ai no chikara daaaaaaaaaa!"'s. (The last one, in English, "This is the power of loooooooooooove!" It was so horribly bad...)Mai's ramen and boobs belong to Mikoto-chan.Mai's aspirations aside, you have a valid point. :lol:

Anyway, Natsuki and Shizuru have become one of my favorite pairs, at least in terms of thinking about them outside the story context. It was very much a shame that, despite their being (almost indisputably) a couple, they have little emotional and no romantic interaction on the surface. Funny that healthy yuri relationships are relegated to subtext while unhealthy ones are shoved in your face... but that's enough complaining.

In the end, Natsuki was my favorite character by far. She was robust, introspective, and just plain cool! (And that motorcycle suit... SU-TE-KI desu! *_*) Much like Lenneth (http://www.meristation.com/EPORTAL_IMGS/GENERAL/juegos/SonyPSP-Rol/5c/IMG2-cw440243279a0d9/art-valkyrie1.jpg), she makes a good candidate as a target for my lifelong ambition. (Role model, I mean. Role-model. Other than that, she belongs to Shizuru-sama.) /gushing yuri fangirl mode

Edit: I thought I'd share this (http://maitake2.blog17.fc2.com/blog-category-1.html) with all of you. It's Natsuki x Shizuru fanart for Mai-Hime. If you click on Mai-Otome in the upper right, you'll see similar art in that context. Nothing adult as far as I know, so enjoy. ^_^

[earsofdoom]

My thoughts exactly. ^_^Didn't we all? You were the one that posted the one page fan comic, right? (The one that replicates that scene as we all would have envisioned it.) I thought it was truly great. It quite handily summarized my thoughts on the matter.


you mean.... this one!!!

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/4476/whentoshutupbyjujicatxm2.th.png (http://img367.imageshack.us/my.php?image=whentoshutupbyjujicatxm2.pn g)

It's nice to see Chikane score one for her home team. :P


Many dialogue bubbles of his have four or so lines devoted to his "Uooooooooo!"'s and "Kore wa ai no chikara daaaaaaaaaa!"'s. (The last one, in English, "This is the power of loooooooooooove!" It was so horribly bad...)


...ugh.... chikane's poetic confession was much more romantic then that.