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NAveryW
August 4th, 2006, 02:03 PM
They're not showing it, but let's pretend for a moment, just for the sake of conjecture, that a radical terrorist group kidnapped some important hostages, planted bombs across Williams Street, or did something like that, and threatened to cause mass casualties or something unless Adult Swim showed End of Evangelion. Or say that the winner of the Burger King "Have it Your Way" contest asked them to show EoE, and for some obscure legal reason, they were required by law to show it. For some reason or another, say they must show End of Evangelion, how much of it would have to be cut out?

I'd say probably not very much.

First and most obviously, the scene with Shinji masturbating to a comatose Asuka. People have said [as] would never show that in the first place due to thematic elements, but the Moral Orel episode "God's Chef" says otherwise. The plot CENTERS AROUND Orel masturbating into sleeping married women to impregnate them so that he he can masturbate without wasting sperm, and thus still get into heaven. If you, perhaps, zoomed in on Asuka so that her nipples were not in view and cut out the close-up of Shinji's hand afterward, I think that scene would pass Standards & Practices.

The swearing... [as] hasn't had trouble bleeping it out before. That's easy-peasy to solve.

I don't think the violence would have to be cut or reduced at all, looking at recent [as] shows.

What about Giant Naked Rei? She has no genitalia, and her nipples could easily be airbrushed off like they have been in shows like Ghost in the Shell and The Animatrix when [as] showed them.

Regular Rei? I don't know, close the camera in farther or something. Or just airbrush her too. You've seen a bunch of naked Reis without nipples before in the Chamber of Guf.

And lastly, I mentioned that GNR had no genitalia, but what about all those vaginas all over the place? Wouldn't it really pull viewers out of symbolic scenes to have GNR's forhead be blurred out while the Tree of Life is being taken in? I don't think they'd have to be censored either, actually. Look at the SYNDICATED version of the South Park episode "Fun with Veal". Stan comes down with "vaginitis" and grows vaginas all over his body. That episode was shown with a TV-14 rating.

So, I don't think much would have to be cut from EoE at all. The biggest changes would be barely noticeable airbrushing of GNR. Does anyone else disagree with this?

Ornette
August 4th, 2006, 02:32 PM
Did anyone ever see EoE on Encore's friday anime thing? I saw commercials for it randomly several months ago, but I don't have cable so I didn't see it. I was wondering how much was edited (if at all) when they aired it.

Tidusauron12
August 4th, 2006, 02:35 PM
Did anyone ever see EoE on Encore's friday anime thing? I saw commercials for it randomly several months ago, but I don't have cable so I didn't see it. I was wondering how much was edited (if at all) when they aired it.


They didn't air EoE on AS. Not ever, not even on the Friday night fix.

NAveryW
August 4th, 2006, 02:37 PM
Did anyone ever see EoE on Encore's friday anime thing? I saw commercials for it randomly several months ago, but I don't have cable so I didn't see it. I was wondering how much was edited (if at all) when they aired it.
I didn't see it, but from what I read on... I believe it was Anime News Network's forum... it wasn't edited when it was shown.

Tidusauron12
August 4th, 2006, 02:39 PM
I didn't see it, but from what I read on... I believe it was Anime News Network's forum... it wasn't edited when it was shown.

^That's it. ;) Couldn't remember.

max payne
August 4th, 2006, 02:41 PM
If they were FORCED then I doubt they would edit it.

and what's GNR? I can't remeber that film too well

Tidusauron12
August 4th, 2006, 02:44 PM
If they were FORCED then I doubt they would edit it.

and what's GNR? I can't remeber that film too well

GNR is Giant Naked Rei, lol.

Mr. Tines
August 4th, 2006, 02:44 PM
and what's GNR?

http://www.evacommentary.org/appendix/geektionary.html#gnr

Tidusauron12
August 4th, 2006, 02:45 PM
You could have just told him what it was... :P

max payne
August 4th, 2006, 02:46 PM
Oh I see. I'm not with "Hip young crowd" of evangelion so I don't understand what hell that even meant.

Mr. Tines
August 4th, 2006, 02:47 PM
@Tidusauron12
"Give a man a fish..." and all that

Blader5489
August 4th, 2006, 02:47 PM
[adult swim] might not edit it at all, and if they were forced to, the edits would extremely small. A couple times [adult swim] has aired anime episodes that featured quite a bit of blood/gore/etc. They aired the episodes with a disclaimer basically saying "This show is for mature audiences only. We'd rather not air the episode at all if we had to edit out the gore..."

So basically, AS would either air the movie in it's full glory or not air it at all. They're all-or-nothing, which is part of the reason why I like 'em so much. ;)

Tidusauron12
August 4th, 2006, 02:53 PM
@Tidusauron12
"Give a man a fish..." and all that

Give a man a fish... ??? Man...

Hexon.Arq
August 4th, 2006, 03:08 PM
Did anyone ever see EoE on Encore's friday anime thing? I saw commercials for it randomly several months ago, but I don't have cable so I didn't see it. I was wondering how much was edited (if at all) when they aired it.

What time does the Friday Anime thing come on? If it was late at night, and on Encore, I don't see why they would have to censor anything at all.

DarthMigit
August 4th, 2006, 03:20 PM
I don't even bloody get adult swim from where I'm standing, at least you can revel in the vague possibility that they may conceivably, consider the notion, of considering arranging to consider airing EoE. Although to be honest, I doubt the casual viewer would pick up on most of the sexual symbolism. Interestingly the movie was the first bit of Eva I ever saw, and aside from the obvious I never noticed anything extremely untoward. Although I may just be incredibly dense...

Tidusauron12
August 4th, 2006, 03:51 PM
My brother wished that they'd play it. (He's still too young to leave home, and too poor to by the DVD.) They probably will play it some day...

DarthMigit
August 4th, 2006, 04:10 PM
My brother wished that they'd play it. (He's still too young to leave home, and too poor to by the DVD.) They probably will play it some day...

I'M too young to leave home, but I could still afford the DVD...HA! :P

Tidusauron12
August 4th, 2006, 04:14 PM
I'M too young to leave home, but I could still afford the DVD...HA! :P

He can afford it... he just doesn't buy it for some reason. (Says he's saving up for a PS3, lol.) I let him borrow the DVD sometime ago.

Ornette
August 4th, 2006, 05:24 PM
What time does the Friday Anime thing come on? If it was late at night, and on Encore, I don't see why they would have to censor anything at all.
I believe it's at midnight, "Animidnight"? something like that. Like I said, I don't have cable and on rare occasions do I even get to watch it. And I happened to see a commercial saying they're playing EoE on Encore's friday night thing.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/article.php?id=7384

yeah. The forums for that news article doesn't mention any editing (actually, doesn't even mention EoE at all)

I wouldn't be surprised if they left it completely intact.

Hekym
August 4th, 2006, 11:31 PM
If AS showed EoE, someone would crack down on them and we'd be stuck watching Digimon every saturday night.

Or it would never be advertised and air at three in the morning in 15 minute increments for months.

Unless... did AS air Second Renaissance 1&2? They might, then, be able to pull eoe off.

NAveryW
August 5th, 2006, 12:35 PM
If AS showed EoE, someone would crack down on them and we'd be stuck watching Digimon every saturday night.

Or it would never be advertised and air at three in the morning in 15 minute increments for months.

Unless... did AS air Second Renaissance 1&2? They might, then, be able to pull eoe off.
I still think things like "God's Chef" are way more offensive than EoE, even if they're slightly less explicit. Three minutes of something explicit, in my opinion, is way less offensive than an entire plot surrounding something offensive that's not-so-explicit.

CyberNinja5
August 5th, 2006, 01:35 PM
Like you said some of thier other shows like Morel Oral are worse than some of the themes in EoE.

loplop
August 5th, 2006, 01:36 PM
Did anyone ever see EoE on Encore's friday anime thing? I saw commercials for it randomly several months ago, but I don't have cable so I didn't see it. I was wondering how much was edited (if at all) when they aired it.

It was shown unedited on Encore . . . . I still can't believe they aired Eiken at 4:00pm on a Saturday . . .

Suki
August 5th, 2006, 01:42 PM
Let's say Adult Swim was not FORCED to show End of Evangelion.

HeWhoPostsStuff
August 5th, 2006, 03:49 PM
Give a man a fish... ??? Man...
An old saying: "Give a man a fish, and he'll eat for a day. Teach a man how to fish, and he'll eat for a lifetime."

animeotaku99
August 5th, 2006, 03:59 PM
ID laugh becuase you mihgt get 30 non-sensicale minutes out of it after they butcher it

Headcrab
August 5th, 2006, 04:00 PM
They're not showing it, but let's pretend for a moment, just for the sake of conjecture, that a radical terrorist group kidnapped some important hostages, planted bombs across Williams Street, or did something like that, and threatened to cause mass casualties or something unless Adult Swim showed End of Evangelion. Or say that the winner of the Burger King "Have it Your Way" contest asked them to show EoE, and for some obscure legal reason, they were required by law to show it. For some reason or another, say they must show End of Evangelion, how much of it would have to be cut out?

I'd say probably not very much.

First and most obviously, the scene with Shinji masturbating to a comatose Asuka. People have said [as] would never show that in the first place due to thematic elements, but the Moral Orel episode "God's Chef" says otherwise. The plot CENTERS AROUND Orel masturbating into sleeping married women to impregnate them so that he he can masturbate without wasting sperm, and thus still get into heaven. If you, perhaps, zoomed in on Asuka so that her nipples were not in view and cut out the close-up of Shinji's hand afterward, I think that scene would pass Standards & Practices.

The swearing... [as] hasn't had trouble bleeping it out before. That's easy-peasy to solve.

I don't think the violence would have to be cut or reduced at all, looking at recent [as] shows.

What about Giant Naked Rei? She has no genitalia, and her nipples could easily be airbrushed off like they have been in shows like Ghost in the Shell and The Animatrix when [as] showed them.

Regular Rei? I don't know, close the camera in farther or something. Or just airbrush her too. You've seen a bunch of naked Reis without nipples before in the Chamber of Guf.

And lastly, I mentioned that GNR had no genitalia, but what about all those vaginas all over the place? Wouldn't it really pull viewers out of symbolic scenes to have GNR's forhead be blurred out while the Tree of Life is being taken in? I don't think they'd have to be censored either, actually. Look at the SYNDICATED version of the South Park episode "Fun with Veal". Stan comes down with "vaginitis" and grows vaginas all over his body. That episode was shown with a TV-14 rating.

So, I don't think much would have to be cut from EoE at all. The biggest changes would be barely noticeable airbrushing of GNR. Does anyone else disagree with this?
Hell if you want to see so bad you can come to my house and watch it with me :P

millinniummany3
August 5th, 2006, 04:16 PM
End of Evangelion, for those who think it would never show, was broadcast twice on SBS, once on my sister's birthday in September two years ago, and again just before Christmas last year. I didn't notice any editing to it, the scene at the start was there, and going by scripts, ect it was all intact. If they decide to run it again I'll give a heads up.

animeotaku99
August 5th, 2006, 04:22 PM
Doesnt Austalia have less rescrictions on what goes on TV?

Ninja337
August 5th, 2006, 04:28 PM
End of Evangelion is in the Cartoon Network online store I heard once.

If AS were being threatened by anime terrorists, they'd most obviously send out Minoriteam to slaughter the weaboos.

millinniummany3
August 5th, 2006, 05:14 PM
Doesnt Austalia have less rescrictions on what goes on TV?

First of all I think SBS is more international, Oceania at the very least. To answer your question though, yes...and no. Media you could get overseas is banned here, such as Manhunt, where as GTAIII was released here when it was banned elsewhere. I think things of a sexual nature are very offensive to the censors here, particularly those that mix sex with violence. You may have heard about a recent incident on Big Brother, that had even the Prime Minister calling for the show to be banned. In any case from my knowledge of Adult Swim the shows are fairly tame, with Cowboy Bebop or Trigun or Initial D being the worst of it, not some horribly gory or mind bending piece like, say, Jinroh or Mad Bull.

Mr. sickVisionz
August 8th, 2006, 03:49 PM
Plus, they only show it at like 12:30 anyways. Has anyone seen The Shield or Nip/Tuck? You can get away with intense levels of sex and violence after 10pm on cable tv. Nothing should be cut.

So much of the nudity isn't sex as much as its just a naked person on screen. I never saw the episodes after Toji's death on TV (I had to buy the thin pack after that one) but if they could show all that stuff then they can show End of Evangelion.

NAveryW
August 8th, 2006, 03:55 PM
I never saw the episodes after Toji's death on TV (I had to buy the thin pack after that one) but if they could show all that stuff then they can show End of Evangelion.
Eh? How so? When you see Rei naked, you see her without nipples or genitalia, and there's no nudity other than that that I can remember. The violence is much more intense as well, but I don't really think that'd matter with Adult Swim's current standards.

Mr. sickVisionz
August 9th, 2006, 11:24 AM
^
I didn't say it specifically, but what I meant was that as far as violence goes, its not worse than anything they've already shown on Eva. They've already shown an Eva tearing another Eva apart and blood covering entire buildings while the pilot is inside screaming for it all to end. Thats intense and they showed it without even a warning of like, "tonights episode is extra graphic" or something like they've done on other shows.