View Full Version : Videogame forum suggestion
Lord Dagoth
July 31st, 2006, 10:35 PM
How about make a subforum in the video game section called "favorites, polls, and other". It gets annoying seeing every new person make threads like these (http://animenation.net/forums/showthread.php?t=194644) just so they can get a higher post count. I'm sure everybody who is a regular in the video game section would appreciate it a lot ^_^
Shiroiyuki
July 31st, 2006, 10:44 PM
Well if they did that, they would also have to make a subforum for anime suggestions, DVD suggestions, manga suggestions, video game and anime/jpop music suggestions, AND hentai suggestions...and I doubt anyone would even use them.
Heck they probably would just continue on their way as they do already. I mean, how many times have people told n00bies to stop posting new recommendation threads? How many times did these said n00bs listen? Or read OTHER threads instead of blindly posting their own repeats?
Lord Dagoth
July 31st, 2006, 10:54 PM
Well if they did that, they would also have to make a subforum for anime suggestions, DVD suggestions, manga suggestions, video game and anime/jpop music suggestions, AND hentai suggestions...and I doubt anyone would even use them.
So make them. What's the big deal? And you don't think anybody would use them? make an addition in the forum rules that all "suggestion/reccomendation" threads MUST go in the subforum. If they make them in the main section, move them to the subforum and give the user a warning. It's not that hard.
Shiroiyuki
July 31st, 2006, 11:02 PM
So make them. What's the big deal? And you don't think anybody would use them? make an addition in the forum rules that all "suggestion/reccomendation" threads MUST go in the subforum. If they make them in the main section, move them to the subforum and give the user a warning. It's not that hard.
No, it's not hard. Nor is it hard for a person to read through a list of threads to find previous suggestion threads (of which there are MANY), or simply do a forum search. People don't necessarily read the forum rules, so they probably would still post their pointless, redundant 'tell me what to watch, etc.' threads in the regular sub-forums. Even if designated 'suggestion' sub-forums were created.
I don't think warning a user for making a non-spam thread is the way to go. Yes, it is their fault that they didn't bother to read/pay attention to the board rules, but still--they really wouldn't be doing anything more than creating minor annoyances for the rest of AN's patrons. Besides, after making one suggestion forum, they probably wouldn't bother to make another--so warning them that if they do it again they will get banned, is pointless.
Lord Dagoth
July 31st, 2006, 11:09 PM
Ok, you're making it sound like enforcing a sub forum is freaking impossible. Well, it isn't. Sure it will take a little extra work from the moderators, but hey, that's what their here for.
Shiroiyuki
July 31st, 2006, 11:11 PM
I'm not saying it couldn't be done--but judging by how much effort people have made thus far to cut down on these recommendation threads (or lack there of actually), I'm just saying that it would be easier to just get the members to read/search for already made threads instead of creating new sub-forums for them to abuse. That is all.
Besides, the moderators have better things to do than baby-sit suggestion sub-forums. Like patrol for spam.
Lord Dagoth
July 31st, 2006, 11:26 PM
Besides, the moderators have better things to do than baby-sit suggestion sub-forums. Like patrol for spam.
Oh my god, please stop. JUST STOP. This isn't an eight hour job.
For Videogame Section
1) Make sub forum
2) If threads are made that belong in subforum, move them to the subforum. If an identical one already exists in subforum, delete it!
For Anime Reccomendation Threads
1) Make a sticky thread called "The Reccomendation Thread"
2) If a reccomendation thread is made, lock/delete the thread and tell user to post it in the sticky!
QUIT MAKING IT SOUND DIFFICULT, ALL IT TAKES IS SOME INTELLIGENT MODERATION!
Samurai Drifter
July 31st, 2006, 11:29 PM
QUIT MAKING IT SOUND DIFFICULT, ALL IT TAKES IS SOME INTELLIGENT MODERATION!
And that's not difficult on AN?
Lord Dagoth
July 31st, 2006, 11:33 PM
And that's not difficult on AN?
Maybe they shouls make me a moderator
Shiroiyuki
July 31st, 2006, 11:39 PM
Maybe they shouls make me a moderator
Yes, because you certainly seem equipped to handle a situation neutrally, and interpret everyone's opinions fairly/impartially without getting temper involved.
I'd love it if you were a moderator here....someone with your demeanor and unbiased attitude would be a wonderful addition to the staff here at AN....
Lord Dagoth
July 31st, 2006, 11:42 PM
Well it's apparant that you can't accept that this is a good idea, and have resorted to flaming.
Post #9 was a joke. This is a good idea. This would work. Stop flaming.
Shiroiyuki
July 31st, 2006, 11:48 PM
Well it's apparant that you can't accept that this is a good idea, and have resorted to flaming.
Post #9 was a joke. This is a good idea. This would work. Stop flaming.
I'm not flaming whatsoever. You sat there and practically yelled at me to quit posting my comments/input on this idea just because they weren't identical to yours. I never said it wasn't a good idea, I simply stated that it wouldn't work out due to the amount of people not caring enough to make an effort.
We would still have the problems we do now with repeat threads, it just would be an even bigger hassle since the mods would then have to transfer those said threads into a special sub-forum, instead of just ignoring them as they do now.
I never resorted to flaming, I merely stated my opinion on the matter. Flamers generally don't use comprehensible spelling or grammar, and certainly don't care enough to actually put thought into their spamming posts.
Don't tell me I was spamming/flaming when all you did was ignore the actual points I was making. Fine, don't listen to me--I'm not a mod so I can't officially put an end to your ideas anyway. I was just trying to shed light on the fact that no matter what you do, people will be people--the kind of people who continually refuse to search for practically identical threads, making their own instead.
Lord Dagoth
August 1st, 2006, 12:03 AM
We would still have the problems we do not with repeat threads, it just would be an even bigger hassle since the mods would then have to transfer those said threads into a special sub-forum, instead of just ignore them.
Hassle? More like laziness. Vbulletin's moderation tools are really easy to use. It's just a few clicks.
I'm not flaming whatsoever. You sat there and practically yelled at me to quite posting my comments/input on this idea.
Ok, caps do not equal yelling. Hell, I didn't even mean for that to be offensive, that was just how you interpreted it.
I never resort to flaming, I merely state my opinion on the matter. Flamers generally don't use comprehensible spelling or grammar, and certainly don't care enough to actually put thought into their spamming posts.
Well, flamers are not distinguished by their sentence structure.
Lord Dagoth
August 1st, 2006, 12:06 AM
And look, don't think I just ignored all of your ideas. I took all of them into consideration, it just seems like it would be better for the forum in general if they incoprorated these ideas.
Powatanner
August 1st, 2006, 12:08 AM
wow
two people fighting over thread topic suggestions
ended up talking about flaming
are you guys related?
cuz then this would be a...
FAMILY FUED! LOL
(watched in eppy of that late at night cuz i was bored)
but seriously both of you stop
this thread should die
obviously no one cares about you're senseless bickering
Lord Dagoth
August 1st, 2006, 12:15 AM
wow
two people fighting over thread topic suggestions
ended up talking about flaming
are you guys related?
cuz then this would be a...
FAMILY FUED! LOL
(watched in eppy of that late at night cuz i was bored)
but seriously both of you stop
this thread should die
obviously no one cares about you're senseless bickering
I agree that this thread should die. But I would still like my ideas to be heard by those that matter.
Rahxephon91
August 1st, 2006, 12:27 AM
How about just make these certain topics sticky?
Leader Desslock
August 1st, 2006, 12:45 AM
For Anime Reccomendation Threads
1) Make a sticky thread called "The Reccomendation Thread"
2) If a reccomendation thread is made, lock/delete the thread and tell user to post it in the sticky!
The primary obstacle to this is that not all recommendation threads are alike.
Let's say, hypothetically, that I was feeling too mentally challenged one day to actually make up my own mind about what I want to see. Let's say that I thought that the best way for me to decide how to spend my anime purchasing dollars was to ask the AN membership - clearly they're the experts in my tastes and viewing habits, after all.* So I make a recommendation thread, and I ask everyone to recommend me some titles based on what I've seen, what I've liked and what I don't like.
I think that list of titles is going to drastically differ from the list of titles I'd expect to see recommended for a 14-year-old InuYasha fangirl who's new to anime, caught a few shows on Adult Swim and wonders what titles she should see if she wants to get into anime a bit more. And I don't think that either one of us needs or wants to wade through the list of suggestions for each other to find the answer to our question.
If it was just two of us asking, it'd be one thing. Given the number of users drifting in and out asking for recommendations, I don't think it'd work. People wouldn't use it, and the people responding wouldn't bother to sift through peoples' specific requests; folks would just chime in with their favorites, no matter what folks said they wanted to see. As much as I like Bebop, I own it and don't really need to have it recommended to me, you know? ^_^
If you ask me, recommendation threads are a necessary evil. Their biggest failing, in my opinion, is twofold:
1) Folks asking for a recommendation don't often specify what they're looking for/have seen very well
2) When the poster DOES specify what he's looking for, the folks responding often ignore the selection criteria and simply post their favorite titles.
Again, let's say that I lack free will, I'm incapable of searching for my own information, and that no independent decision is possible for me - if I specify that I'm looking for only legal R1 releases of series that have been completed, you know that people are going to be throwing in names of fansubs, etc. Why? Because that's what people do.
I think a recommendation thread/subforum is one of those ideas that look good on paper, but I don't think it works in reality.
*as you can tell, I really can't fathom what goes through the mind of someone making a recommendation thread...
Lord Dagoth
August 1st, 2006, 12:59 AM
I agree with nearly all of the points you mentioned. But...I was never too concerned about the anime section. This was mainly to remove all of the annoying "what's your favorite console" or "what console are you getting" threads from the videogame section.
Smith
August 1st, 2006, 10:09 AM
Bear with them. Nobody's forcing you to click on them. There used to be a anime suggestion subforum. I am certain there are reasons as to why that was axed and has not been resurrected. If you feel so strongly about a certain thread or post, report it with a valid reason as to why it needs moderation.
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