What's the Best 2D fighting game ever made?

[K' Dash]

What is the best 2D fighting game ever made? now dont go by series go by individual games (ie Street fighter alpha 3). you would see my avatar and think my favorite would be King of fighters.... well IT IS!!! But the best fighting game in my opinion is Guilty Gear XX. Its got a very deep story, the most original characters and the gamplay is in a league of its own. especially the speed. the only game with speed COMPARABLE to GGXX is Marvel vs. Capcom 2 (and Capcom vs. SNK 2)

[u_nick]

i havent played much, but i remember LOVING Marvel vs. Capcom 2

[Reidar]

Street Fighter III: Third Strike.

[earsofdoom]

Guilty gear XX..... but melty blood react doesn't fall far behind.

[Sendo Takeshi]

Street Fighter III: Third Strike.



QFT

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And I'd like to nominate ST for a close second. GGXX is meh.

[Raziel_MGS]

M v Capcom

[Haruhi]

Karate Champions.

[sazae]

Super Puzzle Fighter

[Akito]

I'm going to have to go with Brutal: Paws of Fury, mainly just because of the title.

[germanturkey]

GG #reloaded

[Panko Z]

Primal!!!!

seriously i'd give it to either to MvC 2 or SFIII: Third Strike

[MightyDustLoop]

For its time. SF2. It's why 2-D fighters even exist.

For now? I'm split between GGXXSlash and SnC2:MotM. It's probably more nostalgia than anything, but I'll never get over the coolness factor of having Terry Bogard and Ken Masters beating the crap out of each other.

[Jae Hoon]

Capcom vs SNK 2

[njjn]

For its time. SF2. It's why 2-D fighters even exist.



Agreed, and it's the one I had the most fun with, can't wait for the Xbox Live release.

[Haruhi]

For its time. SF2. It's why 2-D fighters even exist.


Wrong. Karate Champions is the reason 2D fighters exist. First 2D fighter, ever.

[Loopy]

GGXX Slash.

[MightyDustLoop]

Wrong. Karate Champions is the reason 2D fighters exist. First 2D fighter, ever.

Karate Champions came first, but the idea of fighting with your fists was always there. It was just the first one to do one on one. It was kind of just there. It was when SF2 hit that dozens and dozens of clones came out of the woodwork. KC may have been earlier, but it was no way near as influential. It was like the prototype. SF2 defined the genre. All should pay homage to its greatness.

[Reidar]

I don't think that Haruhi is denying the influence that Street Fighter II had, just that by default Karate Champions laid out the blueprint by being the first.

[Matsu'o Tsurayaba]

Of the classics.Street Fighter II.

Modern times,Marvel Super Heros Vs Street Fighter.A game i still play to this day.

[Haro!]

Street Fighter III: Third Strike. Street Fighter Alpha 3 gets second in my book.

[Catalyst-40]

Street Fighter III: Third Strike.

I wholeheartedly agree.

[Westlo]

Street Fighter Zero 3

[seba_boi]

Third Strike for the overall skill level and Alpha 3 for the damn good roster!...

[fieldy]

Jo Jo's bizzare adventure!

[{NG}Fidel]

Its all opinion.
Thats what determines it based on each individual.

[Laharu]

Clay Fighter for SNES

[Dij]

Guilty Gear X

[Krueger]

Street Fighter III: Third Strike is the best 2D fighter I've played.

[Lemina]

If your talking about the best 2D fighter ever made period, I would say Street Fighter II. This Capcom game released in 1991 opened the doors wide to hand-to-hand combat shaping the direction of arcade games for over a decade to follow. It was widely acknowledged as the premier fighting game of its era, due to its game balance with regard to the timing of attacks and blocks, which was unparalleled at the time; and due to "special moves" in which experienced players could execute complex fighting moves (special moves) by moving the joystick and tapping the buttons in certain combinations. A great game that became so popular, and its still very much played even to this day with its spawn of sequals. When people think of fighters, they think of Steet Fighter.

Personally speaking, my all-time favorite video game series is SNK's The King of Fighters series. Something about this series that made it so enjoyable, gameplay, its still very fun to play even to this day. Every successive game improved upon the other and we were treated to new characters every time as well as dream matches which returned old ones too. SNK developed a reputation for fighting games very soon after Capcom. The Art of Fighting, The King of Fighters, and Fatal Fury are the three most notable examples, the first Fatal Fury game being released within months of SFII. Fandom between the two companies game series has always often been extremely divisive. SNK, having continued development of its fighting games such as KOF which continues to this day, may be said to hold the upper hand in many countries in terms of popularity, except for the US, where Street Fighter is still the better known and remembered fighting series. In Mexico on the other hand, KOF is widely popular with Street Fighter pretty much out of the picture. I've always enjoyed playing KOF over all others so thats what I consider being the best.

Another great notable is Midway's Mortal Kombat series, which literally changed the way fighters were made with the introduction of blood and fatalities. Shortly after Mortal Kombat's success, SNK released Samurai Shodown which became widely popular and unique from all other fighters, a weapon based game taking place in 18th century Japan. It had comparatively authentic music from the time period, rife with sounds of traditional Japanese instruments pleasing SNK fanatics all the way to this day with the latest installment of the series.

Lastly, I can't forget about Guilty Gear X, XX, and its spawn of sequals. Many people today love these newer games because of its awesome animation, music, and character themes. I enjoy playing these myself as well though I'm not really that good at it. That's all I have to say. So how do I know so much? Well, I've been playing fighters ever since my teen years so I've learned a lot. Never underestimate the knowledge of an ex fighting game club moderator of this message board. ;)

[K' Dash]

NO! NO NO NO! not a series! not the best classic! not the best game play for its time! go strictly by gameplay! nothing else. But lemina i do agree, the best series is King of fighters. But the best game is Guilty gear XX Slash. c'mon people, SF3 cant touch its speed, king of fighters cant match its flare, its got what every fighting game needs, and then some. Sure if SFIII came out at the same time, then maybe it would be better than slash, but i doubt it. SEGA and Daisuke Ishiwatari made a phenominal game. it'll become a legend.

[Haruhi]

Slash. c'mon people, SF3 cant touch its speed, king of fighters

And GGXX/KOF can't touch Third Strike in terms of depth.

[Vaikyuko]

SF2 and MvC2 are my favorites, but I'm not really sure if they're the best. Since I haven't played every single fighting game in existence, I've no idea which is the best.

[Sendo Takeshi]

And GGXX/KOF can't touch Third Strike in terms of depth.




I'm gonna buy you a Xmas gift this year. Thank you. GGXX is all flash compared to SF3. 3S is too complex of a game and so much more better than GGXX its not even funny. 3S may seem simplistic at first and it may control like a basic fighter but overall, its depth is so much more deeper than GGXX. Parrying adds so much more to the gameplay.

Aegis Reflector for life *****es!!!!

[Haruhi]

Ibuki forever! (though I suck w/her and my main is damn top tiers like Ken and Chun)

[Lemina]

If your talking about depth, its not fair to compare KOF with other fighting games like that because there were so many KOF's released within the last 12 years (KOF '94 though XI as well as the R series) as many changes took place thoughout the years. Its like comparing Street Fighter I from 1987 with Street Fighter III released 12 years later; they just don't match up!! The early KOF games showed noticable flaws, but by the late 90's before SNK went out of business, KOF games had so much sheer playability and depth one could put hundreds of hours and still find new things to get better at. Fighting styles have always been varied between the teams just as Street Fighter has with its characters. I know Street Fighter III: Third Stike has alot of depth in it particularly with its parry system, but you can't count KOF out. If I had to choose one series, I'd take KOF any day since it has always been an enjoyable series to play. I admit that I'm not much into SNK/Playmore's latest installments of the series, and I never liked the striker system from KOF '99 to '01 very much, but that alone was still considered a new innovation in gameplay at the time!! With that said, I've always had such a blast playing SNK's older KOF games.

[Daishikaze]

3rd Strike is a technical marvel, perfect on many levels, but for me it lacks something special. As Fantastic as 3rd Strike is, it doesn't make me want to play it, I just don't feel like its something I must play, which is something SFII all the way to Alpha 3 did do.

GGX and its sequels are the same way, beautifully made game, but lacking that certain something that makes me want to play it.

Many of my favorites and ones that I would probably pick for best 2D Fighter have this quality, despite being technically inferior to games like 3S. So I don't think I will add my pick, since I think it won't really be considered anyways

[WadeW]

Super Street Fighter II, The New Challengers.

[Westlo]

3rd Strike is a technical marvel, perfect on many levels, but for me it lacks something special.

I have to agree it just lacks something to make it my fav, I just prefer Zero 3 over it.. but not by much.

[K' Dash]

I'm gonna buy you a Xmas gift this year. Thank you. GGXX is all flash compared to SF3. 3S is too complex of a game and so much more better than GGXX its not even funny. 3S may seem simplistic at first and it may control like a basic fighter but overall, its depth is so much more deeper than GGXX. Parrying adds so much more to the gameplay.

Aegis Reflector for life *****es!!!!

My friend, obviously its got Depth, but its not better than GGXX SLASH First off, Guilty gearXX Slash has more combo capability, more speed, ROMAN CANCEL, which is to me, 1 of the craziest Attack cancel systems made (second to Marvel vs capcom 2), which if used right, triples your comboing ability. and it has the craziest air combo system ive ever played with. you obviously dont play the game much (doesnt suprise me though, you americans didnt get GGXX Slash in The U.S. yet)

[K' Dash]

Many of my favorites and ones that I would probably pick for best 2D Fighter have this quality, despite being technically inferior to games like 3S. So I don't think I will add my pick, since I think it won't really be considered anyways

hey i may consider it, but base it on gameplay Quality and the all immportant fun factor. :P

[K' Dash]

okay okay i guess Guilty gear is only really popular in other parts of the world, so id have to say if its not GGXX SLASH.......its the combination of the best 2D game developers ever. Capcom VS SNK 2... oh...1 more thing....... the best KOF game made is KOF 2002: Be the Fighter.

[Haruhi]

My friend, obviously its got Depth, but its not better than GGXX SLASH First off, Guilty gearXX Slash has more combo capability, more speed, ROMAN CANCEL, which is to me, 1 of the craziest Attack cancel systems made (second to Marvel vs capcom 2), which if used right, triples your comboing ability. and it has the craziest air combo system ive ever played with. you obviously dont play the game much (doesnt suprise me though, you americans didnt get GGXX Slash in The U.S. yet)

Kid, I've been a Guilty Gear fan longer than you probably even knew it was, and I can safely say that 3S has better gameplay AND depth. If you don't know know this, you do not know 3S as well as Deathsycthe, Jae Hoon, or even myself.

Third Strike is the better, deeper and more polished game of the two.

That said, I do like GGXX Slash a bit more. 3S is fun, but I like the simple-minded fun GGXX brings to the table.

[Yakura Shima]

dragon ball z budokai 2 and 3.
they have a bit of a 2-d animation touch, dont they?

[Jae Hoon]

CvS2 has more depth then 3S though, seriously.

Both are fun games though, never could get into GG at all. Owned every single GG up until Slash and they all seemed shallow to me. Woho another Sol Dust loop, hey another Eddie corner trap, sure didnt see any of the 1290909454 of those he has.

[Yakura Shima]

i dont actually really play many fighting games.
im more into RPG's,
but ever since i played dbz and soul calibur 3, i have been getting more interested in them.

[Sendo Takeshi]

My friend, obviously its got Depth, but its not better than GGXX SLASH First off, Guilty gearXX Slash has more combo capability, more speed, ROMAN CANCEL, which is to me, 1 of the craziest Attack cancel systems made (second to Marvel vs capcom 2), which if used right, triples your comboing ability. and it has the craziest air combo system ive ever played with. you obviously dont play the game much (doesnt suprise me though, you americans didnt get GGXX Slash in The U.S. yet)




I'm sorry but I can money match you right now and beat you without a combo.

You my friend obviously don't play the game competitively. Hah, "You Americans". I can import the game right now and play if need be. I just don't want to because its not a game that is popular in America and it never will be. I play games that involve me playing more humans than the roster. Plus, GG games have always been wheelchair accessible. Its Darkstalkers with MvC2 gameplay. Anybody can pick it up and declare themselves top player status withing a few weeks.

And it still stands: 3S > GGXX Slash

[Animegrl/Parnaz]

Street Fighter II

[cyborgaaron]

Street Fighter Alpha 3!!!!

[Danju]

Guilty Gear X2!

[felineki]

Super Street Fighter II Turbo. Wonderful hybrid of the old-school Street Fighter II formula with some of the more complex features that would come to define the newer generation of fighters (Supers, techs, juggles, ISMs/Grooves/modes/whatever, they're all there). It has decent balance as well, almost every character has a chance of winning.

Street Fighter III: Third Strike is wonderful as well. Lots of great new characters, beautiful animation, memorable soundtrack. It's definitely my #2. It has a few problems with balance (everyone knows about the "Big 3"... Ken with his Shippu Jinrai Kyaku, Chun-Li with her Hoyoko Sen, and Yun with his Genei Jin... my girl Makoto comes in at #4 on some lists :3), although not nearly as severe as its predecessor Street Fighter III: Second Impact. Ibuki and her Hashin Sho owned that game, no questions asked.

Alpha 3 is cool, but it has a few problems, IMO. The crazy juggling system is more like something out of the Capcom VS games or Guilty Gear than a normal SF game. The ISMs brought their own problems, with V-ISM being the one dominating mode, and X or A-ISM only being useful for a handful of characters. Many moves had rather odd priorities and hitboxes, as well. Personally, I like the overall style of Alpha 2 better (much more faithful to the classic SF formula), although Custom Combos absolutely ruined that game.

The Darkstalkers series gets an honorable mention for its wonderful characters, hilarious spritework, and fast-paced, combo-heavy gameplay style that influenced many later games. Felicia FTW!

[TheDemonSlayer]

Marvel vs. Capcom 2 hands down. But there are also great games like Guilty Gear X, Dark Stalkers, and of course the Street Fighter series by it's self....

[Rahxephon91]

Marvel Vs Capcom, my favorite. I also like Bleach DS.

[rayndeon]

I'm mixed between Super Street Fighter II Turbo, Street Fighter Alpha 3, and Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike.

[K' Dash]

okay... so slash gets shot down but someone did mention my favorite fighting game. Cap. vs. SNK 2 was what i can say, the last great game b4 the death of the 2D Fighter. But back to you, deathscythe, even if its a better game to you, would you really buy that instead of guilty gearXX. NO. no.. you wouldnt waste your money, because GGXX is more fun, and the almighty fun Factor reigns supreme. we play video games to have fun, playing competitively with them is an "added bonus". So if you had more fun playing one game than another, is that game not better? i would say so my friend. Hey GGXX may be simple but not simple minded. you know the saying, "KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID" (no offense)

[Haruhi]

okay... so slash gets shot down but someone did mention my favorite fighting game. Cap. vs. SNK 2 was what i can say, the last great game b4 the death of the 2D Fighter. But back to you, deathscythe, even if its a better game to you, would you really buy that instead of guilty gearXX. NO. no.. you wouldnt waste your money, because GGXX is more fun, and the almighty fun Factor reigns supreme. we play video games to have fun, playing competitively with them is an "added bonus". So if you had more fun playing one game than another, is that game not better? i would say so my friend. Hey GGXX may be simple but not simple minded. you know the saying, "KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID" (no offense)

Why are you telling Deathsycthe what he would buy? Obviously he wants 3S to GGXX. Believe it or not, kid, GGXX Slash isn't the fighter to end all fighters. So, stop overrating it so much.

Don't argue w/Jae Hoon and/or Deathsycthe when it comes to fighters. Please. It'll just make you look more ignorant.

[VidelCoolGirl]

Well, My favorite is always the Street Fighter series. It's the best in my opinion. Chun Li and Makoto kick major ***.

[K' Dash]

Super Street Fighter II Turbo. Wonderful hybrid of the old-school Street Fighter II formula with some of the more complex features that would come to define the newer generation of fighters (Supers, techs, juggles, ISMs/Grooves/modes/whatever, they're all there). It has decent balance as well, almost every character has a chance of winning.

Street Fighter III: Third Strike is wonderful as well. Lots of great new characters, beautiful animation, memorable soundtrack. It's definitely my #2. It has a few problems with balance (everyone knows about the "Big 3"... Ken with his Shippu Jinrai Kyaku, Chun-Li with her Hoyoko Sen, and Yun with his Genei Jin... my girl Makoto comes in at #4 on some lists :3), although not nearly as severe as its predecessor Street Fighter III: Second Impact. Ibuki and her Hashin Sho owned that game, no questions asked.

Thats simply what i personally dislike about Some SF games. Its to unbalanced, and they focus a lil too Hard on Super moves and not enough on the actual hand to hand combat and overall gameplay. (like, SF is 1 of the only games where they cant Run, what dumass made that mistake.) on the other hand, SF does give you a "come from behind" edge on your opponent with their overpowering super moves. i guess it woudnt be a problem if the super gauge was only lv-3. max (marvel vs capcom got on my nerves, who in the ****ing world would need 6 levels on their super gauge... REDICULOUS)

[K' Dash]

Why are you telling Deathsycthe what he would buy? Obviously he wants 3S to GGXX. Believe it or not, kid, GGXX Slash isn't the fighter to end all fighters. So, stop overrating it so much.

Don't argue w/Jae Hoon and/or Deathsycthe when it comes to fighters. Please. It'll just make you look more ignorant.

1st off, dont call me kid. ever. i have nothing but respect for those guys, you and you guys opinons, so, show me some respect. 2nd: let him answer my question for himself, and finally if these games are so popular and great,.... where are they now..... (*crickets*) lol

[K' Dash]

CvS2 has more depth then 3S though, seriously.

thank you. thank you for stating the truth , the whole truth and nothing but! CvS2 is my fav hands down next to GGXX. i do feel your pain though. GG does get a lil repetitive, but its great. Still CvS2 is the greatest. but what the hell was SNK thinking, SNK vs Capcom?

[Haruhi]

1st off, dont call me kid. ever. i have nothing but respect for those guys, you and you guys opinons, so, show me some respect. 2nd: let him answer my question for himself, and finally if these games are so popular and great,.... where are they now..... (*crickets*) lol

Kay, first, I'll call you a "kid" as long as you continue to act like a one by harping about how great GGXX, while knocking on SF and then pretend that DS would buy it over 3S because you think it's more "fun." When you stop acting like some know-it-all kid, I'll stop addressing you as such.

Second, DS and I are friends. Have been for years before you came w/your GGXX praising, so I thinK I have an idea of what he would buy more than you do.

Finally, Street Fighter games are FAR more popular here than GGXX ever was. And in Japan, people are still holding tournaments regularly for SF games. I would also recommend not bringing up the fighting scene in Japan w/us either. You probably know nothing of it.

And before you think I'm some GG hater, know that I've been into the series since the original one was released on the PS1. I've probably played more Guilty Gear in a given month, then you have your entire life.


Thats simply what i personally dislike about Some SF games. Its to unbalanced, and they focus a lil too Hard on Super moves and not enough on the actual hand to hand combat and overall gameplay.


PLEASE tell me this was a joke. SF games are ALL about strategies and mind-games. If you think they focus on Supers too much, you know nothing about the complexities of SF.


(like, SF is 1 of the only games where they cant Run, what dumass made that mistake.)


Oh, I dunno. The dumbass who singlehandedly defined 2D fighting games as we know it?


on the other hand, SF does give you a "come from behind" edge on your opponent with their overpowering super moves.


Ignorant. Supers are powerful, but far from integral from coming back. Again, you know nothing of Street Fighter.


i guess it woudnt be a problem if the super gauge was only lv-3. max (marvel vs capcom got on my nerves, who in the ****ing world would need 6 levels on their super gauge... REDICULOUS)

GGXX can be ridiculous at times, too. Moreso than any SF was.

[K' Dash]

1st. my mother is japanese. i lived there in osaka for half my life. dont test my knowledge of my homeland. so what if people still play SF. i still play rival schools.. the fact is Street fighters had its time, its made its mark. it wont be forgotten and i would never bash it, so dont go *****in about how i go around praising GGXX. ive only mentioned it on 2 threads.

2nd: of course its more popular, my grandmother knows about street fighter. its a legend, everyone knows about it, meanwhile, GGXX is new so not as many ppl know about the game, especially in the US. there are more GG fans in france than in the united states. plus GGXX is the only 2d fighter thats still making 2D Games other than KOF. these 2 games are carrying the 2d fighting genre on its back for the new generation of gamers.

And 3rd, dont call me kid. im not a know it all. i said i think GGXX is the best. i said i believe it to be better. but i never said i knew it was the best. If i knew it was instead of thinking of forming myOPINION i wouldnt have made this thread.
Dont call me kid, name calling is so primitive and generic.
(p.s.: ive got every GG game known to the universe. my knowledge of video games isnt restricted to my age. dont underestimate me.)

[K' Dash]

oh and about Rival schools. CMON ppl, what a good game lol. i love that game, KYOSUKE RULES LOL!

[Catalyst-40]

I thought Rival Schools was okay, but not good. First off, there was no tag function; all you had was this option to substitute a character for another one in your 3-person team after a round. While they did have double team moves, I still thought the missing tag option was absurd. And secondly, I thought the 2D gameplay didn't fit too well in a 3D environment, making it a little too simplistic. Still, the game was fun to play.

[Sendo Takeshi]

1st off, dont call me kid. ever. i have nothing but respect for those guys, you and you guys opinons, so, show me some respect. 2nd: let him answer my question for himself, and finally if these games are so popular and great,.... where are they now..... (*crickets*) lol


You wanna know where they are? In Japan still getting heavy rotation and will also be present at this years Evolution and they'll be there again for next years Super Battle Opera as well.

I'll post some more later on. Stupid work computer freezing on me.

[Sendo Takeshi]

Thats simply what i personally dislike about Some SF games. Its to unbalanced, and they focus a lil too Hard on Super moves and not enough on the actual hand to hand combat and overall gameplay. (like, SF is 1 of the only games where they cant Run, what dumass made that mistake.)


Unbalanced? Did you play GGXX? Slayer, Eddie and Sol were tops in that game. Eddie edging both of them out for sheer trap factor. Sol had Dust loop and Slayer was just overall psychotic. GGXX needs to learn a thing or two about balance in a game.

Capcom doesn't overemphasize supers in a game. The only supers that were overpowered were in ST and even then it was pretty hard to nail one if you're playing high level play. In the GG series combos don't even scale at all. No damage scaling whatsoever. With Slayer alone I can go with just a five hit combo and 1/3 of your life is gone.

And SF doesn't need dash to be good. Dashing was only added into the Vs. series because they were meant to be fastpaced games. In 3S its just a luxury and even then it shouldn't be abused like in the GG games.

SF does give you a "come from behind" edge on your opponent with their overpowering super moves. i guess it woudnt be a problem if the super gauge was only lv-3. max (marvel vs capcom got on my nerves, who in the ****ing world would need 6 levels on their super gauge... REDICULOUS)


Every fighter gives you a comeback priority. Its just how well you play. Do I have to go dig up the Daigo vid? Do I? MvC2 was the only game where it was 5 levels of super meter and that was only to compensate for the fact that you used 3 characters on one team.


@Haruhi: We're friends? I thought I was hated. *hugs Haruhi*

[Animematt55]

I am partial to GGXX and MvC2.....I recently got GGXX and i actually like it a lot. I jsut wish i had some people to play with....

[MightyDustLoop]

Wow, you guys are really getting into this.

After several years of experiencing GGX and the various incarnation of GGXX and the recent release of KOF XI, I think my favorite fighter is once again CvS2. Been playing it a lot the past week. Very solid, fairly smooth, and everytime my excitement in a SNK or Capcom franchise rises up I wind up back on this game to mix and match some more. SF3, while also great, has quite a few originals I care little for. I know I'm not supposed to like games based on nostalgia, but 10-15 years of experience with most of the characters? You just can't help it.

If Hokuto no Ken were Berserk, I could tell you what my favorite fighter in a year would have been.

I also nominate SvC:MotM for best handheld fighter EVER. I actually preferred it to the first Capcom v. Snk. And the Neo Geo Pocket Color's controls were so very smooth. The reason to own that system right there. Pretty much wound up being the only one though. It's not that Sonic isn't great, but it's....everywhere.

[Sendo Takeshi]

But back to you, deathscythe, even if its a better game to you, would you really buy that instead of guilty gearXX. NO. no.. you wouldnt waste your money, because GGXX is more fun, and the almighty fun Factor reigns supreme. we play video games to have fun, playing competitively with them is an "added bonus". So if you had more fun playing one game than another, is that game not better? i would say so my friend. Hey GGXX may be simple but not simple minded. you know the saying, "KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID" (no offense)



Forgot to touch on this post.

I paid money for 3S. GGXX was free from a friend. I wouldn't say none of the games are a waste of money because I've paid $100 dollars for an import copy of CvS2 when it first came out on the DC 5 years ago. I purchase and play just about every fighter that comes out. And if I don't purchase it, I have to play it somehow.

All fighting games are fun. Its just that I play them competitively while, I'm assuming here, you don't. Thats a big difference. Plus, GGXX doesn't have a real following stateside so theres really no one to play. You name a place in NYC that has a GGXX cabinet.

Plus, no fighter is simple minded, thats for sure. If they were scrubs would be playing and winning.

[Jae Hoon]

Lol the most overpowered supers in ST arent even used, outside Sims and thats usually for block damage. O Sagat ftw

Oh and XX is just an Eddie fest so I dont want to hear that game is balanced. Biggest myth in the fg community.

[gameoffreak8]

Either Marvel vs. Capcom series or Street Fighter series.

[Haruhi]

O Sagat ftw

Naw. I think a good Balrog player can consistently win against an O Sagat.


Oh and XX is just an Eddie fest so I dont want to hear that game is balanced. Biggest myth in the fg community.

The truth. GGXX isn't a balanced game at all. Only ignorant people actually believe that crap.


Btw, Rival Schools was crap. But I still have lots of fun playing with it, heh.

[Suki]

Can't beat King Arthur and the Round Table. Or is it a side scroller?

[K' Dash]

YES! RESPECT RIVAL SCHOOLS! . . . sorry. well anyone with a brain knows arc systems doesnt care about balance. but i think then again im a crazy *** kid who buys tha game and plays on like, maniac within a minute of playing the game, so i like inbalance. i think it makes victory that much sweeter when the odds are stacked heavily against you.. however ther is a line of inbalance that shouldnt be crossed and some games hop over it just a bit. Guilty gear XX is at the top of the list. (p.s. the only comp to me in this continent in GGXX is a couple of friends i went to school with. noone in the US plays GG. but i do play fighting games competitively elsewhere)

[Jae Hoon]

Naw. I think a good Balrog player can consistently win against an O Sagat.



Dont bet on it

[Shadow Raven]

Street Fighter III Third Strike
Marvel vs. Capcom 2
Guilty Gear X2

[seba_boi]

Darkstalkers is grossly misrepresented in this thread... If I were to combine DS2's gameplay with DS3's roster, it would be one of my most favourite fighters...

[Flopsy]

Capcom vs. SNK 2 (Arcade) :unsure:

[Animematt55]

Darkstalkers is grossly misrepresented in this thread... If I were to combine DS2's gameplay with DS3's roster, it would be one of my most favourite fighters...
I really like dDarkstalkers 3...it is a classic. And who can say no to a loli succubus??

[CrossboneGundam]

And who can say no to a loli succubus??

Me. And the rest of the non-pedo majority. :naughty:

I wouldn't think myself expert enough to say what is the best 2D fighting game, but on the subject of Guilty Gear... Sometimes you can succeed with more style than substance.

[Gannon]

Power Rangers (Sega Genesis).

Off-Topic: One of these days I'm going to play against Deathscythe and Jae Hoon. Hehehe...Should be fun...

[K' Dash]

But substance is what keeps you coming back to play the game. a game with no substance is like a doctor saying he's giving you a life saving medicine, when its only a sugar pill. Now for a great game with substance, take KOF '02. Besides having style, it has Class, and plenty of substance. and unlike GG its not an uphill battle every time you fight a certain character. its well balanced and a must have for all KOF fans. i should know, i am 1 :P

[K' Dash]

...And who can say no to a loli succubus??

i can... now lets say it was a sexy Full grown succubus, then maybe ill reconsider :cheers:

[Zero Kyori]

King of Fighters '98: The Dream Match Never Ends

It's my most played game for my NeoGeo System, besides Garou: Mark of the Wolves

[K' Dash]

yea '98 was great, but i think the KOF'99 game is what kept me playing. (My Avatar should tell you why.) as far as Garou Mark of the wolves, that was a great game, but i hate how SNK isnt getting the respect it deserves as a company. its got too many classics, Metal Slug, KOF, Fatal Fury, Garou, Samurai Shodown, its time SNK gets some recognition on this Thread for more than just 1 game.

[Lemina]

But substance is what keeps you coming back to play the game. a game with no substance is like a doctor saying he's giving you a life saving medicine, when its only a sugar pill. Now for a great game with substance, take KOF '02. Besides having style, it has Class, and plenty of substance. and unlike GG its not an uphill battle every time you fight a certain character. its well balanced and a must have for all KOF fans. i should know, i am 1 :P

I agree that KOF 2002 is a must have for SNK fans, but I didn't think it was as well balanced as you say. Characters like K9999 and Rugal (obviously) were a lot stronger than the rest. KOF '02 is perhaps one of the last great games released for the Neo-Geo, but I thought KOF '98 took the candle as the best game of the series as it was a lot more balanced and enjoyable overall considering it had so many rivalries and musical themes for all characters. My favorite is actually KOF '96 because it had such a great lineup of characters and the ability of having to fight all of them to win!! KOF '97 was a really great game in the series too as it introduced a new game play system to the mix, and KOF '98 just improved upon it and you can noticably see how much it had been refined overall. KOF '99 changes things around with the addition of the striker system, and I thought it was the best last game done by the original SNK. I love playing all of them for my Neo-Geo!!

[Daishikaze]

SNK is my favorite company, I didn't list any of their games because I was sure someone would rip into them for not being technical brilliance like SFIII: 3S.

SNK did an awful lot with relatively little , they were able to get the absolute most out of their outdated hardware and that is to be commended.

Samurai Spirits, especially 2, is my favorite series. Fatal Fury is my second favorite. Kizuna Encounter doesn't get alot of attention, which is sad considering it was the first real tag fighter I've ever seen.

I could go on and on

[Sendo Takeshi]

Power Rangers (Sega Genesis).

Off-Topic: One of these days I'm going to play against Deathscythe and Jae Hoon. Hehehe...Should be fun...



Wasn't the Green Ranger massively broken in that game?

And yes, we should play one day, but damn, travel is a *****. NYC right here. East Coast representin'.

[Lemina]

SNK did an awful lot with relatively little , they were able to get the absolute most out of their outdated hardware and that is to be commended.

Samurai Spirits, especially 2, is my favorite series. Fatal Fury is my second favorite. Kizuna Encounter doesn't get alot of attention, which is sad considering it was the first real tag fighter I've ever seen.

I agree SNK really pushed the most out of the Neo-Geo hardware limits with all of their games from 1998 and beyond. Many of the newer carts even had technical enhancements which really pushed even the most out of carts to create bigger games for a hardware that is well over 15 years old now. These "Giga Power" carts even looked a lot better and played more smoothly than anything that was released for home console for a long time until the current generation of video game systems came around.

I thought Samurai Spirits was one of the best fighting series ever created, by of course SNK!! So different from other fighters as it was entirely weapons-based. The international character cast, traditional Japanese music themes, and great game play system really made this series so special. My favorite was also Shin Samurai Spirits (Samurai Shodown 2) as well. I thought it was the best game of the series as it improved upon the original game which was incredably outstanding at the time. I liked the other SS games released for the series too, but I tend go back to the second game which is where my heart is.

The Art of Fighting, Garou Densetsu (Fatal Fury) and Bakumatsu Roman Gekka no Kenshi (The Last Blade) are very enjoyable SNK fighting game series too. Though the first two are older, they were great games to play at the time with a lot of game play and enjoyment, though they were underappreciated because they were overshadowed by CAPCOM's Street Fighter series. The King of Fighters series merely combined both of these series to create a new all-star type of competition.

The Last Blade was a lot like Samurai Spirits except it took place in 19th century Japan as opposed to 18th Century Feudal Japan in the Samurai Spirits series. The look and feel of the Last Blade was totally different yet so alike from Samurai Spirits since they were both weapon based. The Last Blade felt more like a traditional competition while as Samurai Spirits felt more like a brawl of death. This series was so memorable and should not be forgotten either.

I agree that SNK is so underappreciated, and it must be commended how much they've tried to release such great products to the market with the low money they have. There's a reason why SNK is still alive, and that’s because its people like us who enjoys 2D fighters that keep them alive. They are very popular in Mexico, and for a very good reason too. SNK games are very enjoyable to play without all the flash of other games, and that’s all that matters in gaming, to have a good time!!

[K' Dash]

I agree that KOF 2002 is a must have for SNK fans, but I didn't think it was as well balanced as you say. Characters like K9999 and Rugal (obviously) were a lot stronger than the rest. KOF '02 is perhaps one of the last great games released for the Neo-Geo, but I thought KOF '98 took the candle as the best game of the series as it was a lot more balanced and enjoyable overall considering it had so many rivalries and musical themes for all characters. My favorite is actually KOF '96 because it had such a great lineup of characters and the ability of having to fight all of them to win!! KOF '97 was a really great game in the series too as it introduced a new game play system to the mix, and KOF '98 just improved upon it and you can noticably see how much it had been refined overall. KOF '99 changes things around with the addition of the striker system, and I thought it was the best last game done by the original SNK. I love playing all of them for my Neo-Geo!!

well, of course rugal is stronger he's a boss, and K9999 is an upgrade of... oh i dunno, K' ? of course they would be stronger. but, its purposefully made that way. Unlike GGXX, in which ARC systems trashed the game by tweaking characters fighting moves to give them the edge, KOF however gives everyone a good arsenal of moves, Rugal is just plain stronger than everyone else.

I didnt really go for the stiker system to much, and though KOF '99 had like 5 new characters to offer, they took alot out of the game. Characters who made the jump from '98 to '99 where lucky if they stayed the same. characters either suddenly "forgot" certain super moves, or they took away techniques and changed the style of the charcter completely, and altering the depth of the game.

[Jae Hoon]

I would not necessarily call SNK underrated, for every great game they have that doesnt get much play (Garou) they have 10 that are utter crap as far as serious play go. (Any KOF besides 98,2002,XI) Not to mention half the SS games were badly made as were alot of the Fatal Fury's.

[K' Dash]

NYC right here. East Coast representin'.

hehe yea, Newyork Newyork! :cheers:

[mecegirl]

Some of my fav's are SvC2
Darkstalkers
SF 3 new generation
MvC2

BTW Has anyone ever played Rumble Fish.

Someone mentioned Jo Jo's bizzare adventure. It is fun and well bizzare

[Sendo Takeshi]

BTW Has anyone ever played Rumble Fish.

Someone mentioned Jo Jo's bizzare adventure. It is fun and well bizzare



Rumble Fish was visually nice. Never really got to play it at Chinatown Fair. Although I don't know if you're talking about RF1 or 2 because we had RF2 and probably still do.

Jo Jo's Bizzare Adventure was the sh!t. I need to hunt down a copy of that. Hell, Capcom should make a release of that for the PS2 seeing as how they're cleaning the vault.

[mecegirl]

I don't know. I only thought that there was one. LOL It the game was in japanese I could not tell what was going on anyway. Not that I cared the graphics were to nice to care.

Jo Jo is great. I do wish that they would release it in english. And if they have well I'm just slow.

[Daishikaze]

I would not necessarily call SNK underrated, for every great game they have that doesnt get much play (Garou) they have 10 that are utter crap as far as serious play go. (Any KOF besides 98,2002,XI) Not to mention half the SS games were badly made as were alot of the Fatal Fury's.

They are all fun games to play though, thats the whole point of them.

[K' Dash]

true..
very true..

[DEMON212]

Haven't read the post (it's 5 pages long) but IMO you can't ever get better than Streetfighter 2 Turbo edition.

Hyper in the U.S :)

[bachaka61]

I don't know... Sf2, or maybe Third Strike... But nothing beats the SF2 soundtrack!! My fav tracks are Sagat's stage (so spiritual and deep) and Balrog's stage (so...nice, lol)...

Oh and I almost forgot the greatness of Alpha 3...Good thing Capcom released it for the Ps2 in SFAA.

[DEMON212]

Capcom have re-released almost every SF game, lol.

Multiple times too.

I like all of the stages, they all rock!

I don't really know what my fav would be, i'm getting it back on Aug 2nd (X-BOX Live Arcade) so i'll have a good listen to em again and then i'll say :)

[K' Dash]

yea the music is okay.

[aoishonen7]

3-way tie between Pocket Fighter, Gulity Gear X2, King Of Fighters series. I'm not gonna say Street Fighter because thats a default option for me. I grew up with the game.

[K' Dash]

oh, so there is someone who has played mini gem fighter. thought i was alone on that one.

[mecegirl]

pocket fighter is just fun. I love the backgrounds. No need for skill. And who cares about skill when Demetri is in chibi form sliding around on the floor!!! And that is just awsowme.

[DEMON212]

Yep, same here, grew up with SF2 and everytime it's out I buy it, except the GBA port because I heard it sucked, plus no-one I knew had GBA's so I couldn't do VS.