Pee Wee Herman's fall from grace.

[Dinco]

I remember when this news hit way back when and all the kids acted like it was some kind of water-gate scandal, probably due to how the adults were reacting to it. Now that I'm older and I think back on it, man did that guy get screwed over. And I mean really screwed. Such a great character comedian with a witty imagination, and it was all flushed down the toliet by holier than thou soccer mom hypocrites. I'm glad the United States is slightly less PC now, although I'm stil not happy with many things. I hope Reubens does something else for tv or film some day. Pee Wee's Playhouse was an awesome, trippy show, and his first movie I think is probalby the best film Tim Burton ever directed.

[master terrence]

I never ever paid attention to him, so what exactly was the scandal... (he's on cartoon network now, right? )

[MagicianCamille]

I never ever paid attention to him, so what exactly was the scandal... (he's on cartoon network now, right? )

He was caught amusing himself in an adult film theater.

Masturbation =O!!!

[Suiko Eiji]

I never ever paid attention to him, so what exactly was the scandal... (he's on cartoon network now, right? )

Yes, this is the first time his show has been aired since it was taken off about 15 years ago.

The actual crime was that he broke obscinity laws in a porno theater, if I remember correctly. Being the host of a kid's show (not to mention very popular with kids), what a 'normal star' could bounce back from, pretty much ruined the career Paul Reubens had built up as Pee-Wee Herman. CBS dropped all re-runs of the show immediately and it fell into nostolgia and obscurity. I believe at one point many celebrity psychologists believed him to have identy crisis issues between Reubens and Herman; however, in the late Nineties and early 2000s, he picked up some movie roles and seemed to have recovered from the devastation.

I never liked the show when I was younger and happened to catch a re-run the other night and still didn't like it.

[EmberAlchemist0]

Eww this man is so gross. I still have no idea why adult swim had to go and revive his insanity to their line-up. That right there has to be the most disturbing thing I've seen adult swim do...I mean they have done a few other things rather disturbing/shocking, but Pee Wee Herman.....

[Lord Dagoth]

Why couldn't he just jerk off at home?

[Killswithpaper]

Why couldn't he just jerk off at home?

Becuase its more fun in public >_<

[Haro!]

Why couldn't he just jerk off at home?
I think that question is the follow up to "Why would someone watch porn in a theater?"
And I never cared for the character, I'm not sure if that was before or after the incident.

[Dinco]

Becuase its more fun in public
Seriously man, this was in a porno theatre not in public. Two completely different things right there. Some pigs were in the theatre and spying on him, he didn't get reported by anyone else.

[Killswithpaper]

Seriously man, this was in a porno theatre not in public. Two completely different things right there. Some pigs were in the theatre and spying on him, he didn't get reported by anyone else.

I was kidding, and eitherway what was a child tv show actor doing in a porno theater anyway......besides the obvious

[The Million Dollar Prons]

Seriously man, this was in a porno theatre not in public. Two completely different things right there. Some pigs were in the theatre and spying on him, he didn't get reported by anyone else.


If I jacked off in a regular movie theater it'd be considered public.

The thing is, if I remember right the Defense on the Pee-Wee case said they had some security camera footage that proved Pee-Wee wasn't jackin at a theater, but for one reason or another they didn't show it and clamed up about it.

Speaking of, since when was it against the law to beat the meat at a tit shack? I asumed it was the whole idea. I wouldn't expect people to sit in there, and after a hot SCENE to run to the bathroom and unload there.

[Soluzar]

Speaking of, since when was it against the law to beat the meat at a tit shack? I asumed it was the whole idea. I wouldn't expect people to sit in there, and after a hot SCENE to run to the bathroom and unload there.
It's not like you can jerk it at a strip show, or while you're getting a lap-dance. The real question is "why the hell do porno theaters even exist?"

[Suiko Eiji]

Seriously man, this was in a porno theatre not in public. Two completely different things right there. Some pigs were in the theatre and spying on him, he didn't get reported by anyone else.

That depends on the theater; some theaters are single/double seat only for previewing a video for rental or purchase. Many "old time" (before commercial appeal of home videos) theaters were actually about the standard size of a small movie house. I don't believe they specified which kind he was a patron of, though I am guessing it was the second kind.

Yeah, I know a little too much about this subject.

And... speaking of Pee-Wee, I'm changing the channel because it's coming on.

[Dinco]

It's not like you can jerk it at a strip show, or while you're getting a lap-dance. The real question is "why the hell do porno theaters even exist?"
Because there was a time before internet connections.

[Gray]

He musta been pretty Loud to drown out the rest of the "show"

[Soluzar]

Because there was a time before internet connections.

This is true, and I guess there was even a time before any form of viable home video. I don't suppose you've any idea why they still exist, though? Personally, I'm drawing a blank.

Yeah, I know a little too much about this subject.
After reading a certain blog, I know more about the porno DVD/video rental business than I've ever wanted to know.

True Porn Clerk Horror Stories (http://www.improvresourcecenter.com/mb/showthread.php?threadid=4475&perpage=20&pagenumber=1)

You're all very welcome. :P

Actually, if you've got a strong stomach, it can be a pretty funny read.

[master terrence]

whatever, the show was not funny and his voice is annoying..

[dothacker5]

Meh I still like the guy my parents showed me tapes of playhouse when I was a little kid and I still love it. The theme song is awesome.

[MagicianCamille]

True Porn Clerk Horror Stories (showthread.php?threadid=4475&perpage=20&pagenumber=1)

Broken links suck. :(

[master terrence]

it was thread 4475 on page 20... I remember that one :rolleyes:

[Bernard_Monsha]

Seriously man, this was in a porno theatre not in public. Two completely different things right there. Some pigs were in the theatre and spying on him, he didn't get reported by anyone else.


I worked at a porno shop and there was only one thing I loathed more than cleaning up after some loser jerked off in there. If I caught them I would beat the hell out of them then call the cops. Pee Wee should have been beaten and sodomized with a cactus for what he did.

[Bezerker]

Pee Wee should have been beaten and sodomized with a cactus for what he did.

Even worse, they made him star in Mystery Men :-p.

Honestly, the guy is entitled to have a private life, but obviously whipping out the privates in a theater was a dumb idea. At least he hasnt stooped to Pete Townsend (supposedly) or Jeffrey Jones level.

[Dinco]

I worked at a porno shop and there was only one thing I loathed more than cleaning up after some loser jerked off in there. If I caught them I would beat the hell out of them then call the cops. Pee Wee should have been beaten and sodomized with a cactus for what he did.
Yet you still chose to work and cleaned it up with a smile on your face.

[Dalmain]

P. Herman was set-up.

[Soluzar]

Broken links suck. :(

I edited the post, it works now.

I worked at a porno shop and there was only one thing I loathed more than cleaning up after some loser jerked off in there. If I caught them I would beat the hell out of them then call the cops.
Until I read that blog, I had no idea what went on in porno stores... there's worse even than what you're describing. Mind you, I used to work in a regular video store that had a small section for "adult movies", and there were a couple of times we had to kick guys out for trying to jerk one out right there on the shop floor. I got news for ya, buddy, wearing a long coat doesn't mean that we can't tell. :lol:

I don't know, I think the thrill of getting caught actually makes it better for them or something. Sick ****s.

[Bernard_Monsha]

We used to have 2 sets of chairs in the booth you would walk between them. To cut down on no no behaviour we removed one leaveing a hole about a foot and 3/4 up from the floor that we did not spackle shut. This numb nuts gets into his mind it is a glory hole and it being dark did not see the screws and nails around and got his pants caught on one so he was pinned down unable to stand up and unable to wiggle out of his pants because he was splayed on his knees. When he asked for help we took one look and called the police.

We did get the people who would return "sticky" videos. We would toss them and charge their card the price of the movie plus handleing. We had a couple do it in magazines and put them back on the shelf 0_0. I also had a guy tell me we had to rent porn to him without an ID because it was against the constitution and it was his civil right to rent porn. He threatend to call the police on us as well. :rolleyes:

[Soluzar]

We did get the people who would return "sticky" videos. We would toss them and charge their card the price of the movie plus handleing.
It would be the "handling" that would freak me out... in order to deal with someone else's bodily fluids, I need to care about them a lot more than I do the average customer. Fortunately the store that I worked in was primarily a family-friendly business, so those kind of creeps were in the minority.

I also had a guy tell me we had to rent porn to him without an ID because it was against the constitution and it was his civil right to rent porn. He threatend to call the police on us as well. :rolleyes:
Now that's something that I've had to deal with on countless occasions. Not specifically with porn, but customers who just can't understand the simple concept that I could potentially have been fired for letting them get an age-restricted game or movie without ID.

[Evil_Koala]

I never liked him...Ever since his movie mocked Texas...

[Soluzar]

I never liked him...Ever since his movie mocked Texas...

A lot of people mock Texas, and Texans. Do you dislike all of them? Serious question.

[Bernard_Monsha]

I never liked him...Ever since his movie mocked Texas...


When did he mock Texas? Pee Wee's big adventure the entire time in texas was histerical. The tour of the Alamo and him sticking his head out of the phone booth and gettiing everyoine to sing "Deep in the Heart of Texas" were great.

[CrossboneGundam]

I remember when this news hit way back when and all the kids acted like it was some kind of water-gate scandal, probably due to how the adults were reacting to it. Now that I'm older and I think back on it, man did that guy get screwed over. And I mean really screwed. Such a great character comedian with a witty imagination, and it was all flushed down the toliet by holier than thou soccer mom hypocrites. I'm glad the United States is slightly less PC now, although I'm stil not happy with many things. I hope Reubens does something else for tv or film some day. Pee Wee's Playhouse was an awesome, trippy show, and his first movie I think is probalby the best film Tim Burton ever directed.

Wow, you sure were quick jumping on this totally relevant and timely piece of news.

And what you're suggesting is totally ludicrous. Why should anyone have to bend over backwards to preserve the career of a childrens' TV star who got caught breaking the community law by masturbating in public? Why should he be exempt from the law?

And so what if it was a porno theater, not a regular theater? That's still a damn seedy thing to be doing in the first place. If people knew he was even in one to begin with, the same thing would have happened.

You're going on with this righteous indignation like the world should be sorry for not offering to mop up Pee-Wee's mess. If he didn't want to lose his childrens' TV career, he shouldn't have gone to whack off in a porno theater in the first place, period.

[MagicianCamille]

Wow, you sure were quick jumping on this totally relevant and timely piece of news.

This is the off-topic forum, we do things like that here. Anything unrelated to anime is relevant in the off-topic forum.

And what you're suggesting is totally ludicrous. Why should anyone have to bend over backwards to preserve the career of a childrens' TV star who got caught breaking the community law by masturbating in public? Why should he be exempt from the law?

The only thing he suggested was Rueben do something new, I don't know where you got all that jazz from his post.

the same thing would have happened.

You don't get arrested for being in adult theaters. If he didn't WHIP IT OUT and get arrested, I don't see how anything remotely similar would have happened.

You're going on with this righteous indignation like the world should be sorry for not offering to mop up Pee-Wee's mess. If he didn't want to lose his childrens' TV career, he shouldn't have gone to whack off in a porno theater in the first place, period.

I think you're reading far too much into his post. A little less caffeine in the mornin' buddy. ;) Love and Peace.

[CrossboneGundam]

You don't get arrested for being in adult theaters. If he didn't WHIP IT OUT and get arrested, I don't see how anything remotely similar would have happened.

Which is irrelevant. If the public learned he was simply going to porno theaters, they would be shocked, and he still would have lost. There's only one thing to do in that sort of place, and it's not anything that involves necking with a girlfriend or paying $15 for a bucket of popcorn, and that's what offended people.

[MagicianCamille]

Which is irrelevant. If the public learned he was simply going to porno theaters, they would be shocked, and he still would have lost.

They learned because he got arrested. He got arrested for beatin' meat.

[Raziel_MGS]

The point is guys, he got arrested and lost his entire career because of one moment of "weakness" where he needed to masturbate *SHOCKS*. I saw it as unfair as well. I mean what he does in private even though it was sorta public shouldn't affect his acting career but it did because everyone saw him as a creepy pervert. I mean it wasn't like it was a lolicon movie or something that would suggest he wasnt safe around kids but whatever. Pee Wee Playhouse was on last night and I honestly wasn't sure if it would stand the test of time because a lot of shows I saw as a kid sucked watching them when I got older, but it did for me. I really liked it and it was really funny. The magic word is TIME, AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

[Stafal-chan]

>_< he scares me!!!...he should not be allowed on TV....damn adult swim.....>_<

[Suiko Eiji]

The point is guys, he got arrested and lost his entire career because of one moment of "weakness" where he needed to masturbate *SHOCKS*. I saw it as unfair as well. I mean what he does in private even though it was sorta public shouldn't affect his acting career but it did because everyone saw him as a creepy pervert. I mean it wasn't like it was a lolicon movie or something that would suggest he wasnt safe around kids but whatever. Pee Wee Playhouse was on last night and I honestly wasn't sure if it would stand the test of time because a lot of shows I saw as a kid sucked watching them when I got older, but it did for me. I really liked it and it was really funny. The magic word is TIME, AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

That's the thing; if he would have went to the AV store, picked up Cum on Ileen, Girls Who Crave C*ck, and Girls Who Crave C*nt, took them home and watched them, this wouldn't have been an issue. Considering, according to another criminal investigation, he has an extensive collection of "vintage erotica", I am sure this was not his first time in a porno theater.

Speaking of that other criminal investigation, it was a criminal investigation concerning child pornography back in 2002.

[Loopy]

His judgment was extremely unfair. Wow he was jackin' it, ALL men do that. Big frickin' deal. The media was just looking for someone to exploit.

A shame really considering I thought his performance on "You Don't Know Jack!" back in mid-2001 was funny as hell. Haven't seem him in the spotlight since.

Although....that child porno bit does give rise to concern. Regardless, the issue concerning the porno theatre was overblown and ridiculous.

[Suiko Eiji]

His judgment was extremely unfair. Wow he was jackin' it, ALL men do that. Big frickin' deal. The media was just looking for someone to exploit.


While 99.9% of all men do, very few of us do it in the "privacy" of a public theater, where something such as that is stated as against local laws. He committed a crime and was convicted; the fact that his career was ruined by that is something that all working professionals face, not some poor hapless man who was exploited by the media.

[master terrence]

even if it were some unemployed 18 years old I'm sure it would have made the news and a thread on this forum...

[Sendo Takeshi]

Today's secret word is Masturbation kids!!!

Pee-Wee's gangsta. He whacked it and showed no remorse. I remember seeing him in Blow with Johnny Depp. The fact that Pee-Wee was selling coke was just genious.

[Bernard_Monsha]

Which is irrelevant. If the public learned he was simply going to porno theaters, they would be shocked, and he still would have lost. There's only one thing to do in that sort of place, and it's not anything that involves necking with a girlfriend or paying $15 for a bucket of popcorn, and that's what offended people.


Yes people do not realize the cost of fame. Becomeing a public figure means you sacrifice your private life, houdini was the best example of this he did not smoke and go on benders like babe Ruth because he knew kids would associate him with those activities. Outside of moral obligations it is bad business for someone whose fanbase was kids to do things their parents might find objectional. Pee Wee failed to realize that and got burned.

[odw777]

I didn't know about any of this acctually. But I can see how they'd be no way he could continue his career on a kid's show after something like that.

I think what people fail to realize is that you're supposed to get stoned before watching that show. I think that might the reason Adult Swim's even showing it, also I can't help but think it's because Family Guy made a reference to it. (when Peter got his "reperations" he turned his living room into Pewee's Playhouse.) Eh, That's really the reasons that I see for Adult Swim to be running it...

[Jinto117]

I heared what he really did was sneak in an outside beverage while filming the porno. They just used the whole beat stick thing as a cover up. Them theaters take that outside beverage stuff serious.

[goddessofanime]

I was kidding, and eitherway what was a child tv show actor doing in a porno theater anyway......besides the obvious

Hey even Pee Wee has needs too.

I remember that whole thing; it cracks me up that the name of the movie was called "Nurse Nancy". I was a teen when all it broke. All the toy stores immediately got rid of any dolls associated with Pee Wee.

As said, he eventually did recover from the scandal.


I would watch it when it was on tv occasionally. Like I said, I was out of the demographic then, though if you watched it when you're trashed, things make sense.

[Ikari Warrior]

He musta been pretty Loud to drown out the rest of the "show"

Have you seen his show? Or the movies? He's a pretty loud guy, man. I don't even want to think about...

I'm going to stop myself before I gross out the entirety of AN.

[MonkeyBoy0314]

Another case of extreme idiocy in our 'great nation'

If a theater is going to show a porno movie, you have to expect that somebody is going to jerk off in it, IT'S A NATURAL REACTION! Also, the only people who are going to a theater to watch smut probably have the same thoughts brewing in their heads, so who is the masturbator offending? Hypocrites, that's who!

I also do feel for Pee Wee, he was an amazing entertainer and he didn't deserve the treatment that he got from the media

[Rain]

His judgment was extremely unfair. Wow he was jackin' it, ALL men do that. Big frickin' deal.

I don't know about you but I sure as hell don't want to see some freak (especially not a Children's TV star) jerkin' off publicly right in the middle of the goddamned theater - even if it is a porno theater.

He deserves whatever the hell he got. He's got no one to blame but himself.

Seriously man, this was in a porno theatre not in public.

Anywhere not within the confines and privacy of your own home is considered to be in the general public. Your definition of the word public is obviously skewed beyond reproach.

[CrossboneGundam]

Another case of extreme idiocy in our 'great nation'

If a theater is going to show a porno movie, you have to expect that somebody is going to jerk off in it, IT'S A NATURAL REACTION! Also, the only people who are going to a theater to watch smut probably have the same thoughts brewing in their heads, so who is the masturbator offending? Hypocrites, that's who!

I also do feel for Pee Wee, he was an amazing entertainer and he didn't deserve the treatment that he got from the media

Explain to me how it's hypocritical for an average american to be offended by a childrens' TV star to go to a shady porno theater and be caught masturbating.

Contrary to what some people might want to believe, most average americans don't go to porno theaters or abuse themselves in public.

Any normal celebrity would get some flak for doing something so classless, but the fact that he's supposed to be a role model for children makes it that much worse.

And as much as you might want to delude yourself, the vast majority of heterosexual pornography is degrading towards women.

[Raziel_MGS]

Mel you are an angry person, haha

[Midoriko87]

Hmm, reminds me of female school teachers back in the Day... Um, don't ask what Day they were back in...

School Principal: "Ms. Johnson, we have reason to believe that you may be... dare I say... married."
Ms. Johnson: "Yes Sir, it's true. I've been married for three years, now."
Female Teacher 1: "Ha, I knew it! *****! I knew something was up... the way you strut around this place with your short, revealing, three-inches-above-the-ankle dresses... I mean, mini-skirts!"
Female Parent: "Oh, I have such thoughts going through my head! Googly eyes, hand-holding... UNE BISE!!! *Faint*
Female Teacher 2: "Will someone please think of the children!"

Okay, maybe that's an exaggeration... Anywho, before this, I never knew of these "Porno Theatres." Does that make me a square? Maybe... But remember, it's hip to be a quadrilateral... except rectangles, the bastards!

On-Topic, what Paul Reubens (who shares Midoriko's birthday, I might add) chooses to do during his off Time (as long as it doesn't involve molesting/thinking perverted thoughts about children) should have no bearing on his Professional Life. Still, he chose the celebrity lifestyle, so he knew what he was getting himself into. And, if I were a parent (I hate children), I wouldn't want Pee Wee Herman entertaining my babies with his sticky, nasty fingers (Midoriko fears bodily fluids). I mean, imagine Barney pounding his dinosaur meat in public (:lol: I said "dinosaur meat." Yes, Midoriko is very immature.).

Wait, why I am I defending him? Am I defending him? I mean, yeah it's an adult theatre showing adult movies, but Gee Whiz, isn't that why the Good Lord (Mithra) created public restrooms? Okay, this is getting out of hand... Seriously, if you must "relieve" yourself (disgusting), do it in the privacy of your own home... or your grandmother's/best friend's home... in the Great Room (No, I'm not condoning same-self relations).

And, what's up with "Porno Theatres"? What manner of pervert would even consider venturing into such a place? Just Ewww. I bet there's like pubes and semen (Grossimatic) and vaginal liquids (Pukatronic) and the smell of Athlete's Foot and Butt all over the place (In Living Color reference... sorta).

Still, with Pee Wee, I think it may've been a thrill-seeking thing à la Simpsons. You know, Homer and Marge on the Golf Course? And, if you don't know, gets ta steppin'!!! Unfortunately for Dear Monsieur Reubens, he got caught with his hands in the ol' cookie jar. NOTE: Those cookies were promptly incinerated... along with the jar.

[MagicianCamille]

Mel you are an angry person, haha

Yeah, how dare she have a problem with people jacking off in public. I say we stone her.

[Loopy]

I mean, imagine Barney pounding his dinosaur meat in public (:lol: I said "dinosaur meat." Yes, Midoriko is very immature.).


:lol: :wub:

What perverted humor! Marry me please.

[Dishboy]

its strange a thought scuttled across the thinking portion of my brain just now. and now i pose a question to you folks, do you think he would have been treated differently had he been caught engaged in sexual relations with a female companion in said smut house? me personally i think it would have blown over cause i mean how many times have we all been caught doin the nasty with a skank in the theatre? i don't know i could just be delusional.

[Dishboy]

abuse themselves in public.

i hardly find something that feels so good to be abusing one's self

And as much as you might want to delude yourself, the vast majority of heterosexual pornography is degrading towards women.

yeah i wish i was degraded enough to be making $200-$5000 a film then i wouldn't have to work for ****ing minimum wage at a burger joint. who is deluding themselves really?

[MagicianCamille]

how many times have we all been caught doin the nasty with a skank in the theatre?

You ask this on an anime forum and expect a lot of people to relate?

:lol: Oh, that's great.

[Midoriko87]

:lol: :wub:

What perverted humor! Marry me please.

Add a "u" after that "o" in "humor," and we'll talk. :thumbsup:

Dishboy, about the theatre thing... I'm not sure if it would have made such a big difference. I mean, think of his audience; they're children. Parents, in general, would like to protect their children from all things involving adult situations. I don't know about you, but if I tune into the news oneday, and there's a story about Joe/Steve from Blue's Clues doing the do with some skank in a Porno Theatre, I'd be crush.

Of course, that's just parents and their kids. If he would've been with a woman, that may've guaranteed him "Pimp Status" among a lot of young, hip people (maybe). I'm kinda young but definitely not hip, so I wouldn't know. You silly kids with your Hippity-Hop and Rock and/or Roll (preferably Roll).

Oh, and up yours, Camille. Just the other day, this huge-busted lady and I... were attending church and giving praise. Hey, Midoriko is always PG-13 and below (Disregard the Barney thing. It's the Devil's work).

I hardly find something that feels so good to be abusing one's self
You wouldn't, would you? Don't answer that. If you're gonna waste precious genetic material anywayz, at least, do it productively (word?). Like, donate to your local sperm bank. God, Humans make me so angry sometimes! It "feels so good" to ensure the survival of our friggin' species!!! I hope you're happy... You're screwing Mother Nature over... MOTHER BLOODY NATURE FOR PETE'S SAKE!!!! This angers me!! :mad: Just because it comes out of your body, that doesn't mean it's yours to waste. If you're not gonna share, you should consider being neutered. Seriously.

[Holy Knight]

You wouldn't, would you? Don't answer that. If you're gonna waste precious genetic material anywayz, at least, do it productively (word?). Like, donate to your local sperm bank. God, Humans make me so angry sometimes! It "feels so good" to ensure the survival of our friggin' species!!! I hope you're happy... You're screwing Mother Nature over... MOTHER BLOODY NATURE FOR PETE'S SAKE!!!! This angers me!! :mad: Just because it comes out of your body, that doesn't mean it's yours to waste. If you're not gonna share, you should consider being neutered. Seriously.

Awesome. I never thought I'd ever stamp anything with the word "owned" over it, but this bit of fine writing needs it. Can I give thee an amen?

As for this Herman guy, he got what he deserved. It's the law and he went against it. He was a public figure and was close to children, so he gets burned for it. In the words of the wise Miyagi: "if you don't want to get hit, don't be there." I have no pity for Herman, however good he is or was.

[goddessofanime]

You know, if this happened today, they'd be analyzing this to death all over the media.

[Haro!]

its strange a thought scuttled across the thinking portion of my brain just now. and now i pose a question to you folks, do you think he would have been treated differently had he been caught engaged in sexual relations with a female companion in said smut house? me personally i think it would have blown over cause i mean how many times have we all been caught doin the nasty with a skank in the theatre? i don't know i could just be delusional.
I've never been caught so I wouldn't know...

But that situation is not pathetic like jackin' off in public, so it should get different reaction.

[Midoriko87]

Awesome. I never thought I'd ever stamp anything with the word "owned" over it, but this bit of fine writing needs it. Can I give thee an amen?

:lol: Hmm, I never figured I'd get that response from a guy... or a girl, even... So, HK, are you member of that .1% of guys that don't... you know? Kidding... I beg of you, do not give me an answer. :(

And, the fact that humans were able to break free of their "natural constraints" isn't something that necessarily angers me. Do I think it's a good or beneficial thing? Not really, but what are you gonna do? There's not a shortage of babies, yet. Well, at least, not here.

[Rain]

Yeah, how dare she have a problem with people jacking off in public. I say we stone her.

Oh my god. How dare her!

Mel you are an angry person, haha

Yeah, I'm friggin' angsty, don't piss me off. Thanks.

[CrossboneGundam]

its strange a thought scuttled across the thinking portion of my brain just now. and now i pose a question to you folks, do you think he would have been treated differently had he been caught engaged in sexual relations with a female companion in said smut house? me personally i think it would have blown over cause i mean how many times have we all been caught doin the nasty with a skank in the theatre? i don't know i could just be delusional.

Why would he have been in a trashy porno theater if he could actually get a real woman to have sex with him?

And in regard to your next post, try looking at the link Soluzar posted on page 2. I'd suggest you take a look at your local adult video store's selection of products and find a single title that doesn't refer to the female stars using profane, derogatory slurs, but considering your profile and your opinions, I'm sure you're not old enough to be looking at such things.

Of course, if most pornography is your idea of respect for women, tell me how it goes when you call your mom a "f*** pig" (to quote an actual video title,) out of your utmost respect for her as a woman.

[Rain]

i hardly find something that feels so good to be abusing one's self

Yeah, sorry, but I don't want to know about your sexual habits.

yeah i wish i was degraded enough to be making $200-$5000 a film then i wouldn't have to work for ****ing minimum wage at a burger joint. who is deluding themselves really?

Wow. You work at a burger joint for minimum wage. Who knew?!?! You are definitely the most delusional person I've ever met.

its strange a thought scuttled across the thinking portion of my brain just now. and now i pose a question to you folks, do you think he would have been treated differently had he been caught engaged in sexual relations with a female companion in said smut house? me personally i think it would have blown over cause i mean how many times have we all been caught doin the nasty with a skank in the theatre? i don't know i could just be delusional.

So you've been caught umpteen times doing the local ***** in porno theaters? Are you trying to tell us folks on AN that you're a "pimp?"

I have a whole lotta respect for you, buddy.

[Dishboy]

Why would he have been in a trashy porno theater if he could actually get a real woman to have sex with him?.

hey people do strange things and strange people do even stranger things

And in regard to your next post, try looking at the link Soluzar posted on page 2.

i did, i found it to be rather amusing, had myself a bit of a chuckle as it were. but not as much of a chuckle as your posts give me my dear sweet crossbone gundam

I'd suggest you take a look at your local adult video store's selection of products and find a single title that doesn't refer to the female stars using profane, derogatory slurs, but considering your profile and your opinions, I'm sure you're not old enough to be looking at such things..

you see the simple fact is if the skanks didn't want to be f****** and s****** for money they wouldn't be end of story, therefore technically the titles are degrading towards women not the actual video content, and yes please do go by my profile for any kind of personal information about me. i haven't looked at it in like three years so i honestly couldn't tell you anything about it. actually i think i will look at it now that you bring it up. but at the end of the day the skank that got paid 500 leaves for letting a dude stick his hoohoodilly in her chacha for 10 minutes is a hell of a lot better off than myself and many people i know working for slightly more than minimum wage

Of course, if most pornography is your idea of respect for women, tell me how it goes when you call your mom a "f*** pig" (to quote an actual video title,) out of your utmost respect for her as a woman.

yes pornography is the way i show my respect for my mother and other women, and as for how my mother would react to me calling her a "f*** pig" as you so eloquently put it, would be something of a mixed reaction, it would probably go something like this: " you should have been a blowjob"

[Dishboy]

Yeah, sorry, but I don't want to know about your sexual habits.

it was added more for comic effect than anything else

Wow. You work at a burger joint for minimum wage. Who knew?!?! You are definitely the most delusional person I've ever met.

i wish i worked there by choice i really do, then i would have a reason to put a bullet hole in the back of my skull

So you've been caught umpteen times doing the local ***** in porno theaters? Are you trying to tell us folks on AN that you're a "pimp?"

I have a whole lotta respect for you, buddy. [/color]

man either my internet sarcasm-o-meter is broken or you wankers at AN started taking everything i say literally, what ever happened to you guys being able to pick out the stupid/funny things and honing in on the underlying seriousness of the post by reading between the lines? i guess the quality of english language skills has dropped off dramatically in the general population. its called satire folks get a clue.

[Gray]

My advice, Dishboy(wtf kinda name is that?) is to stop posting before Crossbone get's serious ;)

[Dishboy]

My advice, Dishboy(wtf kinda name is that?) is to stop posting before Crossbone get's serious ;)

wtf kind of nam is fullmetal haruko? no man the name comes from my nickname (dishboy) at the first job i was actually on a payroll instead of being paid under the table, it just so happens that by some miracle of chance i got that job about the same time i joined the AN forums, and i just never gave a flying feck after that so it remains unchanged. and why should i stop posting before he gets serious? if he can't carry on a civil discussion with another member of the boards then he shouldn't be here. unless of course by gets serious you mean that he will take the discussion into the realm of a debate on the ultimate morality of pornographic video. in which case i would say to you that its been far too long since i've had a good debate. who knows it could be good for a laugh you should stick around and see where it goes. i plan to.

[mecegirl]

I thought that what happened to him was wildly ironic. I mean why is there a rule that you can not wank off while a porno is showing. Yes we know that it was a public theater but I mean come on.

He should have rented it and took it home. Yes we all know that but I mean it’s a porno theater. I mean wow off all the things to do while watching a porno he decided to wank off. Big deal. In truth I think that one of the workers recognized him and was watching him. I think that it is a safe bet that someone has done the same thing in that theater before. The only reason that they did not get arrested is because they were not famous.

Since when is anyone perfect? Yes he was a child star. So of course he has to act like that person all of the time. He has to be Pee Wee all of the time. This case is just like what happened with Pres. Clinton. He cheated on his wife. Wow how many politicians do that? Everyone acted like it was the worst thing in the world. (Granted it is not good thing)But because of his status they tried to impeach him. They should have sent him to marriage counseling. Pee Wee’s “crime” was being famous anyone else would have been overlooked and probably was overlooked. It’s not like he went streaking in an elementary school.

[Suiko Eiji]

I thought that what happened to him was wildly ironic. I mean why is there a rule that you can not wank off while a porno is showing. Yes we know that it was a public theater but I mean come on.

He should have rented it and took it home. Yes we all know that but I mean it’s a porno theater. I mean wow off all the things to do while watching a porno he decided to wank off. Big deal. In truth I think that one of the workers recognized him and was watching him. I think that it is a safe bet that someone has done the same thing in that theater before. The only reason that they did not get arrested is because they were not famous.

Public health issues aside?

I think that it's a safe bet if that sort of thing is against local ordinances, the ones that didn't get away with it were arrested and charged as well. Bernard, unfortunatly, has some past experience in this area, as indicated from his earlier post. It's not a matter of how many people jumped off the bridge, it's a matter of whether or not bridge jumping was illegal and whether or not you are caught before you hit the ground, to provide a metaphor.

Since when is anyone perfect? Yes he was a child star. So of course he has to act like that person all of the time. He has to be Pee Wee all of the time. This case is just like what happened with Pres. Clinton. He cheated on his wife. Wow how many politicians do that? Everyone acted like it was the worst thing in the world. (Granted it is not good thing)But because of his status they tried to impeach him. They should have sent him to marriage counseling. Pee Wee’s “crime” was being famous anyone else would have been overlooked and probably was overlooked. It’s not like he went streaking in an elementary school.

It's not a matter of being a perfect person or not. It's a matter of following the law.

Also, Herman/Reuben's case is nothing like the Impeachment of President Clinton. A lot of revisionists (and unfortunately, folks like Bob Barr) would like people to think Clinton was impeached over adultery and infidelity; that's not the case - his case was about perjury, which is a violation of a major tenet of Western criminal justice. Herman/Reuben never denied committing the act when he in fact committed it; he broke the law plain and simple. He was tried and convicted. It just so happens that his being a public figure, and the type of public figure he was, it ruined that portion of his career. It's no different than if you catch lead auditors, CPAs, or CFOs cooking books, steal company funds or other "white-collar" crimes - convictions lead to professional blacklistings.

[mecegirl]

Public health issues aside?

I think that it's a safe bet if that sort of thing is against local ordinances, the ones that didn't get away with it were arrested and charged as well. Bernard, unfortunatly, has some past experience in this area, as indicated from his earlier post. It's not a matter of how many people jumped off the bridge, it's a matter of whether or not bridge jumping was illegal and whether or not you are caught before you hit the ground, to provide a metaphor.

Hey never said that it wasn't gross



It's not a matter of being a perfect person or not. It's a matter of following the law.

Also, Herman/Reuben's case is nothing like the Impeachment of President Clinton. A lot of revisionists (and unfortunately, folks like Bob Barr) would like people to think Clinton was impeached over adultery and infidelity; that's not the case - his case was about perjury, which is a violation of a major tenet of Western criminal justice.

Okay so he lied about cheating on his wife. Yes he lied in court. But in truth how many men lie about cheating on their wife? He did not lie about stealing money or selling weapons to another government or anything else that would affect anyone or anything but his relationship with his family.

Herman/Reuben never denied committing the act when he in fact committed it; he broke the law plain and simple. He was tried and convicted. It just so happens that his being a public figure, and the type of public figure he was, it ruined that portion of his career. It's no different than if you catch lead auditors, CPAs, or CFOs cooking books, steal company funds or other "white-collar" crimes - convictions lead to professional blacklistings.

That is my point anyone else would have been fined or whatever and sent home. It would not have been on public tv or anything.

[Suiko Eiji]

Okay so he lied about cheating on his wife. Yes he lied in court. But in truth how many men lie about cheating on their wife? He did not lie about stealing money or selling weapons to another government or anything else that would affect anyone or anything but his relationship with his family.

I can lie about anything I want in my private life; it only looks personally bad on me for those that figure out the truth. I can try to lie my way through my professional life but if those lies are found out, I can be professionally ruined.

Yes he lied in court.

You said it yourself, he lied in court. That is explicitly stated as a crime. Whatever you say before or after that instance is up for the listeners to determine whether or not it is a "bad" lie. You are not to lie in court, whether it is in or out of your favor.

That is my point anyone else would have been fined or whatever and sent home. It would not have been on public tv or anything.

Celebrity can influence how much coverage your crime gets, I won't disagree with that; however, it does not effect whether or not you violated a law. I suppose that Bernard would back up the fact that those who were caught (not just seen, I mean physically captured) were prosecuted, whether it was Joe Six-pack or Paul Reuben.