Do you think Evangelion ''looks old'' ?

[Tidusauron12]

I know the series is old and all, but my brother said that when he first saw Eva on AS, "It looked old... and unattractive"

Then he said..

"man that was gay! I just wanted to turn it off!"

Eventually He saw the whole series, and I let him hold EoE for a while. (Though he kept it a lot longer than a while.) At the end... he was appaled like most Evafans.

I notice that a lot of people dismissed eva before it really got to the 'grueling' part. My brother would have quit on the series but I made him watch it through. My friends Reggie and Lucas also quit on the series. They never made it past episode 5.

[Magami No ER]

I think it most certainly looks old on the vhas version(what AS shows), and even on teh old DVD it's not much better. The animation just wasn't very good for that time it was released, either(80's animation, with the right budget<ovas for example>, easily surpasses Evas for the most part, imo)
Of course I'm not includng movies.
Renewal really brightens the image up, though it stil has a sort of old cell flair to it that I like, personally.
Maybe he thought it was "gay" due to the dub. I know my brother thought the same thing when he saw it on Tv, but watching the DVds in Japanese, he became mildly interested. Not interested enough however, Japanese is annoying to him, so he stopped.

[Reichu]

Sure, most of it looks old and crappy. Flashy visuals are cool and all, but I'm one of those people to whom the substance / actual content is more important. The old cliche, "Don't judge a book by its cover", and all. I dunno -- I think it's quite true. A publishing company can potentially make a book more marketable by replacing the cover art, but, well, the stuff on the inside is still exactly the same. If NGE's visuals were updated to look as crisp and sparkly as viewers expect of contemporary anime, it wouldn't change anything on a more profound level, even if it might draw in those originally repelled by the show's "ugliness".

For the record, when I first saw NGE, I honestly didn't give a damn about how it looked. Those were back in the days when crappiness was frequently part of the deal even when things were SUPPOSED to look good -- all of those VHS bootlegs being swapped up and down a buddy network, and all. Compared to then, NGE looks and sounds better than it ever did. ;)

[Mr. Tines]

It doesn't look old in the same way that, say, Ideon, or Black Magic M-66, or Original Dirty Pair do; but then it doesn't have the "chrome" that a lot of more recent animation has.

I loaned a friend the first (Collection 0:1) DVD and his reaction was "It all seems to be an excuse for giant robot fights." (sotto voce: Hello? Episode 4?)

[Tidusauron12]

NGE's visuals were updated to look as crisp and sparkly as viewers expect of contemporary anime, it wouldn't change anything on a more profound level, even if it might draw in those originally repelled by the show's "ugliness".

For the record, when I first saw NGE, I honestly didn't give a damn about how it looked. Those were back in the days when crappiness was frequently part of the deal even when things were SUPPOSED to look good -- all of those VHS bootlegs being swapped up and down a buddy network, and all. Compared to then, NGE looks and sounds better than it ever did. ;)


When I first saw NGE, I noticed that it looked 'old' (2001-2002) but it didn't matter to me either. You have to admit though... the

BEEEEEEEEEEEPPPP!!!

That the editor's placed over the curse words in the American 'Cut' Version didn't make the series anymore attractive... I thought that made it sound even older.

Edit: My friends also say that sometimes the characters eye brows make them look like cavemen.

[Reichu]

I loaned a friend the first (Collection 0:1) DVD and his reaction was "It all seems to be an excuse for giant robot fights." (sotto voce: Hello? Episode 4?)
Y HALO THAR, episodes #02 and #03!

[Ornette]

Edit: My friends also say that sometimes the characters eye brows make them look like cavemen.
I don't see it
http://www.evacommentary.org/episode-03/03_C207a.jpg
http://www.evacommentary.org/episode-03/03_C069a.jpg
http://www.evacommentary.org/episode-03/03_C129.jpg
http://www.evacommentary.org/episode-25/25_C171.jpg
I associate cavemen with big bushy (mono) eyebrows.

[losca]

yea, really old but thats probably cause i hate it...

[Victory]

11 years is old now? Should I order myself a tombstone then?

[Magami No ER]

^Looks visually, not actually is. Say someone today was to produce a cartoon with traditional handpainted cells. That animation would look older by today's standards. But, it would more recent than something like Elfen Lied So...yeah.

[Vaikyuko]

Yeah...anytime someone says it was animated badly, I just indicate the little details like the flying rubble they animated in #04 during the Shamshel fight. That alone usually gets people to shut up, considering I only showcase my Platinum DVDs to my friends.

[Reichu]

The show thrives a lot on the little "touches" / details in the animation, like the aforementioned flying rubble in #03 (not #04), which could likely have been excluded and nobody would have noticed. The actual quality of the animation -- sparse as the actual animation is ;) -- varies quite a bit. On the high end, there is the awesome (and rotoscoped more often than not, I bet) stuff in EoE, where the movement is so incredibly smooth as to be surreal (e.g., the closeup hand shots of GNK). On the low end, you have movement that is, well, animated like crap: For a funny example, #09, Asuka pointing at Shinji and shouting during the unison training. The quality of the art itself also ranges from the extremely crude to the exquisite (and doesn't necessarily have any direct correlation with the quality of the animation itself).

Unfortunately, having as much tunnel vision as I do, I'm not in much of a position to provide very educated comparisons between NGE and other anime... My own rather superficial observation has been that anime overall tends to have much less actual animation than you'd think it would, and that includes shows produced post-2000.

[Ninja337]

The animation is a little outdated, but the themes are not old at all. The story is as surreal as it was 11 years ago. Animators will not keep the same frame on for 11 seconds like they did on Eva anymore though.

[Vaikyuko]

The show thrives a lot on the little "touches" / details in the animation, like the aforementioned flying rubble in #03 (not #04)

Oh. Yeah, I always mix the two up. XD

[Hexon.Arq]

The most dated element of Evangelion is the soundtrack, IMO. Parts of Eva might look cheap, but I don't know about old.

[Tidusauron12]

I don't see it
]I associate cavemen with big bushy (mono) eyebrows.

I don't see it either.

[Dr. Nick]

It doesn't look like a Studio Gonzo show, and that's all I care.

[Chef Wun]

Note that most "new" animes tend to have crappy CGI effects mixed with overbright colours*cough! gundam SEED *coughcough*

[Hexon.Arq]

Note that most "new" animes tend to have crappy CGI effects mixed with overbright colours*cough! gundam SEED *coughcough*

Bright colors... flat visuals... bland character designs... choppier-than-thou animation...

As for the eyebrows, I think they might have been referncing Ritsuko. They're not very thick, but they do tend to stand out.

[*koji]

Are you kidding? NGE is timeless. "Old" never came to mind.

[CanonRAP]

Note that most "new" animes tend to have crappy CGI effects mixed with overbright colours

"All flash and no plot" = name of the game.

Some of the visuals might seem outdated compared to today's anime, but that depends on your definition of 'quality'. And I agree that the little details are more interesting (and satisfying to find) than just flashy effects.

Like the ToL during 2I.

[Mr. sickVisionz]

They do look kinda old. I know what he means. Even the remastered ones, its like they aren't drawn as bright as newer stuff. And I don't mean light/dark as in moody, just like color contrast and crispness that you can get with today's animation technology. Like watch an old episode of InuYasha and watch a new one. Just the visual-technical look is way more advanced even though most of it is done by the same artists/designers.

The remastered ones have that brightness/contrast up to today's standards, but theres other things about it that let you know its pre-2000. I can't really put it into words, but the character design on alot of anime that comes out in the same few years always has something similar to let you kinda know what time period it was made. The instant you see Eva you start thinking early to mid 90s. I don't think thats a bad thing though... its just a stylistic trademark of the times.

[Magami No ER]

. Like watch an old episode of InuYasha and watch a new one. Just the visual-technical look is way more advanced even though most of it is done by the same artists/designers.

I thought it wa a nicer look as painted cells in the older episodes, personally. The characters atched the backrounds much better as well.

I can't really put it into words, but the character design on alot of anime that comes out in the same few years always has something similar to let you kinda know what time period it was made. The instant you see Eva you start thinking early to mid 90s. I don't think thats a bad thing though... its just a stylistic trademark of the times.
I notice more hair highlights that aren't as sharp(due to method of applying them no doubt) and thinner, less "Japanese" faces with sharper edged, yet larger (then 80's and before) eyes in many 90's anime.
Sadamoto's designs changed certain common character design a bit in Nadia/Eva(smaller eyes, naturally colored hair, with any change signaling abnormality or a dye job) But those're just conventional styles that only seem to be the norm for that period, imo. Perfect Blue was mid/Late 90's and had a more rounded look, as well as Miyazaki's and Matusmoto's defining characters. But,those are their own defining styles that seem to change little over time.

[TS-Scorpio]

I thought Evangelion looked quite appealing. Compared to Outlaw Star and Cowboy Bebop (that were made afterwards) it feels brighter and less gloomy. Intended or not.

[Oath5]

Personally, you can defintely tell which was new animation in " Death" and what was not. Personally, most of the time in EOE the animation is supurb, like the kitchen scene. I thought it looked very clean to me.

[mephisto2k]

I think it looks kind of old, but not as old as it should look refering to the date it was airing.

[MagicianCamille]

Looks like it's from 1995 or something.

[Hekym]

I always thought of it as really good animation... I've always been very impressed with it. It holds to the story very well. The way people's movements are animated is amazing. The proportions are excellent. The style, whether overblown, tragic or serious, changes based on the characters' moods and conveys them perfectly, and something always seems original and changing. It was made to look real, and it does. But more importantly, it looks human. What more could I ask for?

I was strongly reminded of the anime movie "Metropolis", actually, in that if the animation was more artistic or well-defined, I wouldn't be able to stomach it. Even if the animation in Evangelion was primitive, it was well thought out, effective and appropriate.

As far as the age goes... both the cultural and political atmospheres presented and the art are old. For example, I read that EVA was released just after the Sarin gas attack and that fears over terrorism contributed to the onmipresent sense of tension thoughout the series. It all came together for me, and nothing seemed out of place.

It's just like a classic song. It sounds better without being remastered.

[Westlo]

Of course it looks old what silly question is this? Also why is this said like it's a bad thing?