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Gray
July 8th, 2006, 11:24 PM
If you recall, in Episode 44- Hohenheim of Light, when Ed and Al, along with Mustang, Armstrong .etc are traveling, Al Falls into the Water. Now, Ed states here, that Al could never go in the water due to the fact his BloodSeal would wash off, this being the only thing tieing his soul to the Armour, could cause serious issues. Now, As I was re-watching the series again the other day, I came across something. In Episode 16- That Which is Lost, Ed and Al are traveling back to Resombul, to fix Ed's arm and Al's Suit. Al gets Mistaken for someone Else's Cargo, and is dropped off at a Station. Now, he has half of his body missing, when it Begins to Rain. Rain being Water, this could casue Problems. Not only is there now mention of it, nor is he worried, the Boy who takes the Armour even Takes off his Helmet, leaving his BloodSeal directly exposed. He then rides with the Armour on, with the Helmet OFF, and the BloodSeal exposed, yet this never Arisie's. Just wanted your opinions on this.

(Crow I do not want to hear any crap about how this is some kind of Plothole, nor do I want to hear about BONES, or any MANGA Discussion in this Topic.)

LostCause
July 8th, 2006, 11:30 PM
Well, the seal is on the inside, right. So maybe its not exposed directly to raindrops. I mean you don't get 100% wet in the rain, like you do when you are swimming.
just guessing.

crow-kun
July 9th, 2006, 01:05 AM
This happens twice. One when Ed gets his automail fixed Ed and Al are sparring and Ed knocks Al into the water (Ed says nothing). The second time when Ed and Al are sent to the island after going to visit Izumi, Al is fishing with his body mostly submerged underwater (Ed says nothing). *clears throat* PLOTHOLE!!! I'm guessing rain isn't really a huge problem though.

Also I have come to realize that BONES isn't the problem its the dumbass of a director who is at fault. The same man who screwed up Shaman King.

Charred Knight
July 9th, 2006, 05:59 AM
As Crow-kun said this is just rampant stupidity from the anime team, if the blood seal could be washed off it would have flaked off years ago right after the blood dried.

The blood is bonded and basically becomes part of the armor, the only way to destroy it is to damage the armor where the blood seal is.

Gray
July 9th, 2006, 11:33 AM
As Crow-kun said this is just rampant stupidity from the anime team, if the blood seal could be washed off it would have flaked off years ago right after the blood dried.

The blood is bonded and basically becomes part of the armor, the only way to destroy it is to damage the armor where the blood seal is.

Which is what I though for about 43 Episodes.

EmberAlchemist0
July 9th, 2006, 12:45 PM
Well when Al went in the water those two times near the begining of the series I don't think he went all the way in. The seal is near the top of the suit right? When they were on the Island and he was fishing or whatever he isn't completely in the water. As for the episode where Al was cargo and the kid stole him. Since he was inside the armor when the kid took off his helmet/head I don't think the blood seal would have been affected since I'm sure that kid being in the way blocked the seal from the rain. Later on after that incident in Lior and with Scar and all that Al didn't have a problem getting the blood seal wet because of the Philosopher's Stone inside him...Is that how that went? I am trying to still figure that out. Maybe in the begining also Ed didn't realize the blood seal could wash away and that's why he didn't yell about it. I don't know that's just an assumption.

Bernard_Monsha
July 9th, 2006, 01:34 PM
As Crow-kun said this is just rampant stupidity from the anime team, if the blood seal could be washed off it would have flaked off years ago right after the blood dried.

The blood is bonded and basically becomes part of the armor, the only way to destroy it is to damage the armor where the blood seal is.

No blood will actually stay I have seen a castle (the name escaped me at the moment were the lord commited seppekku and wrote his death poem in blood on a door. It is still legible some 400 plus years after he performed the act. There are also several documents in Europe and Asia that were sealed in blood that are still around. For exapmple Tokugawas Ieayasu's handprint is on a document with blood. A European Enugerrand De Coucy has an alliance with Edward the Third after his caputre at the battle of Poiters. He married the kings daughter and though a constable of France did not fight against the English or the French until Edwards death. This document dates from 1358!

EmberAlchemist0
July 9th, 2006, 10:52 PM
The creators of Fullmetal Alchemist sure leave alot of questions unanswered...Hmph!
I guess they want us to guess on somethings...

crow-kun
July 9th, 2006, 11:05 PM
The people who did the ADAPTATION of Fullmetal Alchemist sure leave alot of questions unanswered...Hmph!
I guess they want us to guess on somethings...
And no they are really nothing more than stupid mistakes.

Stafal-chan
July 10th, 2006, 05:37 AM
...i'm with Crow on this one....~_~....looks like a plothole....FMA has quite a few of these doesn't it?....^_^ i think they just forgot that they had Ed say the bloodseal could wash off... ;)

or...if it's not a plothole (though i still think it is)...it coould just be that Ed THOUGHT it could wash off...but it couldn't....

i would say it could be stained on there...but i don't think blood can stain metal...:P

Ninja337
July 14th, 2006, 09:18 PM
No blood will actually stay I have seen a castle (the name escaped me at the moment were the lord commited seppekku and wrote his death poem in blood on a door. It is still legible some 400 plus years after he performed the act. There are also several documents in Europe and Asia that were sealed in blood that are still around. For exapmple Tokugawas Ieayasu's handprint is on a document with blood. A European Enugerrand De Coucy has an alliance with Edward the Third after his caputre at the battle of Poiters. He married the kings daughter and though a constable of France did not fight against the English or the French until Edwards death. This document dates from 1358!
Don't forget the bloodstained cloth with Jesus's face on it. That's maybe less than 2000 years old now?

I think the bloodseal was too deep in the suit to get wet by raindrops.

Stafal-chan
July 15th, 2006, 09:20 AM
cloth is one thing.....but metal??? :P cloth can have stains that don't come out

Bernard_Monsha
July 17th, 2006, 05:22 PM
cloth is one thing.....but metal??? :P cloth can have stains that don't come out


You can find blood on a blade years after the fact It also does not was off when dried by puttiing it in water for a second or two. He might have to worry if he was in a dishwasher or someone was cleaning the armour with an sos pad but dunking it in water would do nothing to an old blood stain.

Omega Supreme
July 18th, 2006, 09:14 AM
You can find blood on a blade years after the fact It also does not was off when dried by puttiing it in water for a second or two. He might have to worry if he was in a dishwasher or someone was cleaning the armour with an sos pad but dunking it in water would do nothing to an old blood stain.

This is correct. Dried blood, especially blood that has been heated and lets face it Al is a walking oven, does not dissolve back into water very easily. That is why if you have a blood stain on your clothes, you should was it in cold water. Protiens in the blood denature at higher temps and then are no longer water soluable. Even removing water is enough to make some of the protiens misfold, and make them water resistant.