Evangelion Live Action Movie [Archive]

Sachiel03

June 24th, 2006, 12:34 PM

A live-action movie of EVA is in the works,but I hesr theyre going through some development problems.A director has not been chosen (Hideaki Anno will not direct it),and ADV Films has only raised 60 million of the 100-120 million USD of estimated budget costs for the movie.

here (http://eva.trivialbeing.net/) is the site for it

You should check out the pics they already have.

In my opinion i think they SUCK,just look at the pic of Asuka and youll know what im talking about.

My apologies if this topic was already created.

Reichu

June 24th, 2006, 12:35 PM

The Only Live Action Evangelion Movie Thread You'll Ever Need (http://animenation.net/forums/showthread.php?t=107556)

(found in < 1 minute with Search tool)

Sachiel03

June 24th, 2006, 12:37 PM

AHHH!!

so sorry.

DONT BAN ME PLEASE!

The Eva Monkey

June 24th, 2006, 12:37 PM

The search function is your friend.

thewayneiac

June 24th, 2006, 07:02 PM

This movie will never happen! This movie will never happen! This movie will never happen!!!

Reichu

June 24th, 2006, 07:27 PM

Live Action Evangelion Movie also forms the acronym LAEM, which bears a striking resemblance to the word "lame". Dr. Nick noticed this amazing coincidence (...or is it?) years ago, due to his astounding powers of observation.

Then, if you phrase it "Evangelion Live Action Movie", as does the title of this thread, or any other way, you don't get "LAEM". But that is beside the point.

Magami No ER

June 24th, 2006, 08:18 PM

You could still very well say Live Action Movie Evangelion, like any old skewed engrish(in terms of word order in this case) would present...
And thus, LAME.
Part of me still would see if though if made...I like cheap thrills with a bit of context behind 'em, even if it ends up lost...and creepy.

Ornette

June 24th, 2006, 08:27 PM

How about: Live Action Movie of Evangelion?

If it was made, I'd go see it too, even if people tell me that is sucks. I often wonder why Hollywood do remakes of stuff that was already GOOD, as opposed to taking something that sucks and making something good. I recently was told they are making a "Watchmen" movie, based off of Alan Moore's 12 issue series, it was already a masterpiece, IMO the best of Alan Moore's work.

Reichu

June 24th, 2006, 09:08 PM

But "LAEM" works nicely, because it sounds like the sort of thing that would show up at 4chan. (Maybe?)

In this case, it wouldn't really be Hollywood doing the remake -- it would be Weta wanting to satisfy some fangeek need, getting ADV involved, and then getting Hollywood involved. I think? Maybe it's slightly different. I don't follow LAEM's development that closely because I don't really care.

I would see it for the special effects. "Well, their EVA-02 beat EEGK, at least."

Magami No ER

June 24th, 2006, 09:13 PM

Personsally, if it ever did come to be, I'd love to see a comic rendition(of yours,'course) of the Evas and angel's reactions. :P

The Eva Monkey

June 24th, 2006, 09:27 PM

How about "Live Action Evangelion: For the Love of God No!", or "LAE: FtLoGN!" for short?

Reichu

June 24th, 2006, 09:29 PM

I Have A Bad Feeling About This Thread (TM)

Dr. Nick

June 24th, 2006, 10:47 PM

How about "Live Action Evangelion: For the Love of God No!", or "LAE: FtLoGN!" for short?

I like it.

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl Lae Ftlogn!

BTW, this thread needs to be combined with the Chuck Norris thread.

The Eva Monkey

June 24th, 2006, 10:57 PM

BTW, this thread needs to be combined with the Chuck Norris thread.And with a dash of hot yaoi action, it will be one for the record books.

CanonRAP

June 24th, 2006, 10:57 PM

I thought the whole project was stagnant for several months now...

Anyway, if they simply must persist, at least keep the original Japanese feel. But of course they won't do that; "this is Hollywood, all flash and no plot".

Reichu

June 24th, 2006, 11:28 PM

And with a dash of hot yaoi action, it will be one for the record books.

Does that mean I should repost the uncensored version of the off-camera Akira/Keel sex scene? (Geez, what was there to censor? Whoever complained to the mods about that one must have not liked me.)

Really. It wouldn't be any trouble at all. :ph34r:

The Eva Monkey

June 25th, 2006, 09:32 AM

Akira/Keel sex sceneNEVER AGAIN.

Reichu

June 25th, 2006, 10:16 AM

Then, what sort of hOt yAoI aCtIoN did you have in mind...? I mean, you can't get much hotter than that. http://www.evacommentary.org/forums/images/smiles/paranoid.gif

The Eva Monkey

June 25th, 2006, 10:49 AM

Kaworu and Shinji. Duh.

Reichu

June 25th, 2006, 11:02 AM

That's like writing yaoi incorporating Jesus, except, in this case, you're desecrating the avatar of the Holy Mother of the Apostles. Won't do! Those responsible for Kaworu yaoi get sent to Hell -- a place with green skies, magenta-colored seas, giant salt pillars everywhere, and very little else.

And besides. Shinji/Kaworu is SO passé.

Akira is fair game, since he's "just this guy", and a total disgrace anyway. :P How about a post-3I ménage à trois between Misato, Kaji, and the Doc?

Crap, I forgot this:

http://www.evacommentary.org/forums/images/smiles/hijacked.gif

Jabberwok

June 25th, 2006, 11:18 AM

Lemme try and un-hijack this inherrantly off-topic err... topic.

In regard to the potential LAEM-ness of Eva:2kX, I used to share the same feelings.

Then I saw the vid linked in this (http://animenation.net/forums/showthread.php?t=190792) thread from that one con.
Then I saw James Cameron's name pop up in a trailer for Blood: The Last Vampire.
Then I saw that he was working on this (http://imdb.com/title/tt0437086/).
And then I remembered that Eva and Terminator are my two favorite IPs out there right now.

I became an optimist.

There is a effects studio that claims to be interested in this project for the right reasons. Somewhere out there, there is a quote/unquote A-List director that wants to work on this for the right reasons. And I can only hope that there is a casting team that can do their jobs for the right reasons.

I pray that the stars align on this one.

Evangelion, directed by James Cameron. I supose that is the case, but then we'd be looking at something along the lines of Eva:20XX. I know I can wait and hey, it could be right in time for the 20th anniversary box set. Eh?]

LuigiHann

June 25th, 2006, 01:07 PM

James Cameron would be a good choice, but even if he's one of the fabled Top 3, the odds of his schedule being the first to open are quite slim.
I'm actually more curious about who's going to be the main writer of the screenplay. In this sort of remake or adaptation, the success or failure (in my eyes) tends to be in the writing (although casting makes a difference as well). I'd like to see LAEM written by somebody more like Charlie Kaufman, as I think he has a grasp of neurotic psychology that would fit perfectly, but I'm not holding my breath. (If they do a trilogy like they hope, maybe they'll get Kaufman for the third, as that's where he'd be needed the most :P)
Still, it'll look good, no matter who does it.

NAveryW

June 25th, 2006, 01:28 PM

The Eva Monkey

June 25th, 2006, 01:37 PM

I thought Matt Greenfield wrote a rough draft of the screenplay, and was going to edit it for whoever ended up directing. o_o

So, if that's the case, who else bets that every Angel is going to end up looking like a penis? =DMatt Greenfield did not write the rough draft. Unless he wrote a rougher rough draft that was then rewritten by the accomplished film writer he has spoken of...

Sachiel03

June 26th, 2006, 12:01 PM

This thread went down the drain reeeeal fast...

But i will see the movie even though it might suck.

iS it still gonna be drawn or is there gonna be real actors?

cuz if thats the case ill refuse to see it.

RX-78-2

June 26th, 2006, 12:08 PM

Obviously if it's live-action, it uses real actors. If it was drawn, it'd be an anime sequel done in Japan (not like you can make a sequel to Eva, considering the ending).

Jeenathee

June 26th, 2006, 12:12 PM

Obviously if it's live-action, it uses real actors. If it was drawn, it'd be an anime sequel done in Japan (not like you can make a sequel to Eva, considering the ending).
It COULD have a sequel. . .

"It was only a dream!"

Sachiel03

June 26th, 2006, 12:40 PM

Im not seeing it then...cuz theyll just hire sucky actors that couldnt POSSOBLY do the parts of the characters even DCENTLY well.

Reichu

June 26th, 2006, 01:46 PM

Forget NGE sequels -- give me a prequel OVA any day of the week. It would obviously open up more questions than it would answer (duh), but, regardless, it would be teh awesomest thing evar. (Unless Dr. Katsuragi had no on-screen, speaking role; in that event, I would go to Japan and shoot people.)

This thread went down the drain reeeeal fast...
You should read through that ridiculously long LAEM thread I linked to right at the beginning of this one. Not long before every possible sentiment has been expressed, and then it's a hijacking free-for-all!

CanonRAP

June 26th, 2006, 03:58 PM

iS it still gonna be drawn or is there gonna be real actors?

cuz if thats the case ill refuse to see it.

You do realize that the acronym stands for Live Action Evangelion Movie, right ;)

"It was only a dream!"

NOOOOO~!! [/vader]

Forget NGE sequels -- give me a prequel OVA any day of the week. It would obviously open up more questions than it would answer (duh), but, regardless, it would be teh awesomest thing evar. (Unless Dr. Katsuragi had no on-screen, speaking role; in that event, I would go to Japan and shoot people.)

I would absolutely fall in love with this. Even more quickly than SE: Lain.

But I don't think I'd go to Japan just to shoot them for not showing Dr. K.

You should read through that ridiculously long LAEM thread I linked to right at the beginning of this one. Not long before every possible sentiment has been expressed, and then it's a hijacking free-for-all!

I actually read through that whole thing yesterday (longest Internet sit-down period, ever), and I almost LOLed as much as when I went through Go Hikari.

Reichu

June 26th, 2006, 04:47 PM

I would absolutely fall in love with this. Even more quickly than SE: Lain.
(SE: Lain? I suppose I missed out on its allure when I watched it way back...)

But I don't think I'd go to Japan just to shoot them for not showing Dr. K.
B-b-but what's the point of having an NGE prequel OVA if you don't bother featuring one of the biggest players in the backstory? It would be a travesty! At the very least, one would have to spray-paint "SEX" on the Gainax building! Or, better yet, "WE'RE ALL GAY FOR DR. K!!!"

(It's hard being the fangirl of such an elusive character.)

I actually read through that whole thing yesterday (longest Internet sit-down period, ever), and I almost LOLed as much as when I went through Go Hikari.
:lol: Your fortitude and bravery are admirable, sir. Here, have a fat-free yogurt.

CanonRAP

June 26th, 2006, 05:11 PM

SE: Lain? I suppose I missed out on its allure when I watched it way back...

It's one of the few shows that actually made me think for weeks after I finished watching. :)

Reichu

June 26th, 2006, 06:40 PM

I guess it just didn't resonate with me, since the only thing I thought upon its conclusion was, "What the hell was that...?" Can't win them all, I suppose.

Do fancy that opening song, though.

CanonRAP

June 26th, 2006, 07:33 PM

I guess it just didn't resonate with me, since the only thing I thought upon its conclusion was, "What the hell was that...?" Can't win them all, I suppose.

To each his/her own ^_^.

Do fancy that opening song, though.

I don't hear English OP themes often (though I heard that the more recent anime have them) so that interested me the first time I saw a preview of it in a store. Besides, I listen to BOA (the artist) already :P.

RX-78-2

June 27th, 2006, 08:23 AM

Im not seeing it then...cuz theyll just hire sucky actors that couldnt POSSOBLY do the parts of the characters even DCENTLY well.

I bet those "sucky" actors can spell better than you.

Way to even give the movie a chance. Watch it be turn out to be good because you said that.

Reichu

June 27th, 2006, 09:31 AM

I bet those "sucky" actors can spell better than you.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y289/Reichu/forum-fires.jpg

RX-78-2

June 27th, 2006, 12:01 PM

I didn't get that for a second, but then I realized it said "Forum." :P

The Eva Monkey

June 27th, 2006, 12:36 PM

Watch it be turn out to be good because you said that.I bet those "sucky" actors have better grammar than you.

CanonRAP

June 27th, 2006, 03:21 PM

I bet those "sucky" actors have better grammar than you.

LOL.

Way to even give the movie a chance. Watch it be turn out to be good because you said that.

"Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment."

If it ever comes out, we'll see...I'm already a bit put off by the stuff that's already come out (eg. Weta concept drawings).

RX-78-2

June 27th, 2006, 05:03 PM

I bet those "sucky" actors have better grammar than you.

I don't get it.

The Eva Monkey

June 27th, 2006, 05:09 PM

I don't get it.And that's why you just got owned. Booyah.

BLACKANGEL32076

June 27th, 2006, 07:31 PM

"Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment."

I love that! Who said it?

Charlie Kaufman? Whos' that?

Here's an idea; The Walocski (sp?) Bros. You know, that guys that did the Matrix Trilogy. Why could they do it???

CanonRAP

June 27th, 2006, 09:01 PM

I love that! Who said it?

I have no idea if anyone actually said that (in real life); I took that from a game I still play now and then. Warhammer 40k: Dawn of War :P. One of the Emperium 'Librarians' say that.

(Bloodiest strategy game ever, BTW)

Here's an idea; The Walocski (sp?) Bros. You know, that guys that did the Matrix Trilogy. Why could they do it???

You mean the Wachowski Brothers??

It would be interesting to see them do it...but only if they do it while in the same mindset as when they were doing the first Matrix.

felineki

June 27th, 2006, 10:10 PM

I'm already a bit put off by the stuff that's already come out (eg. Weta concept drawings).Indeed. I didn't think Evas could get any uglier than that blasted "F-Type" gimmick... I guess I was wrong. :(

Sachiel03

June 28th, 2006, 08:13 AM

Indeed. I didn't think Evas could get any uglier than that blasted "F-Type" gimmick... I guess I was wrong. :(

Im sure theyll look better when theyre put into 3D and the like.

CanonRAP

June 28th, 2006, 11:27 PM

Im sure theyll look better when theyre put into 3D and the like.

I was referring to how they changed the Eva so that they look more 'organic'...when IMO the effect of 'enormous power restrained/dormant' worked much better with actual 'armour', rather than a gimp suit.

Sachiel03

June 29th, 2006, 12:55 PM

I was referring to how they changed the Eva so that they look more 'organic'...when IMO the effect of 'enormous power restrained/dormant' worked much better with actual 'armour', rather than a gimp suit.

Ahh ok.

Anybody have suggestions of actors for the movie?

Bernard_Monsha

June 29th, 2006, 01:19 PM

Professor Funk

June 29th, 2006, 01:22 PM

Shinji_Ikari is the only person who could ever pull this off successfully.

I agree, Shinji would be my first choice as a director if the movie was running on a 15 Dollar limit...

Dr. Nick

June 29th, 2006, 01:25 PM

Shinji_Ikari is the only person who could ever pull this off successfully.

Painfully relevant. (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y163/Dr-Nick/NGE/lego_eva.jpg)

Sachiel03

June 29th, 2006, 04:56 PM

Painfully relevant. (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y163/Dr-Nick/NGE/lego_eva.jpg)

LEGOS!!!

Who made that?

CanonRAP

June 29th, 2006, 04:57 PM

Painfully relevant. (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y163/Dr-Nick/NGE/lego_eva.jpg)

:D

(required 10 words here for quota which must be followed)

Reichu

June 29th, 2006, 10:10 PM

Painfully relevant. (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y163/Dr-Nick/NGE/lego_eva.jpg)
Now, THAT'S an EVA-02. THAT'S what should be in the movie.

Sachiel03

June 30th, 2006, 12:22 AM

That beats Wetas work ANY day.

Dinco

June 30th, 2006, 01:00 AM

I'm so glad I'm not a fan of this show. Super Mario Bros. The Movie watch out!

Reichu

June 30th, 2006, 03:51 AM

No way, man. Dennis Hopper would make a GREAT Keel Lorenz!

The Eva Monkey

June 30th, 2006, 06:32 AM

Shinji_Ikari is the only person who could ever pull this off successfully.I don't know if that's funny, or painfully cruel of you to say that.

thewayneiac

June 30th, 2006, 07:59 AM

No way, man. Dennis Hopper would make a GREAT Keel Lorenz!

Nah, Walter Koenig is a natural for the part of Keel; Gendo should be played by Gary Oldman, plus a cameo by Malcolm McDowell as the boring old teacher.

Gray

June 30th, 2006, 08:01 AM

Ahh ok.

Anybody have suggestions of actors for the movie?

Gendo- Walter Croncite

Oath5

June 30th, 2006, 11:37 AM

Reichu

June 30th, 2006, 12:14 PM

in recent drawings, they have reduced EVA 02's eye size closer to it's original one before EOE redesign I think.
If you're thinking of the stylized slit-eyes when the helmet popped open in 'intense mode' -- those never really represented the real eyes. (Check out the way they turn into 'real eyes' on EVA-01 whenever it suits the show.) It was a stylization, and their placement on EVA-02 was never really convincing, either. (The lower eyes were placed where her mouth would be. -_-; ) Trashing the pop-open helmet is one of the EoE mods I applaud.

They need to make the mouth plate less obvious. If they do make the movie, I think the fact that the EVA's aren't actually robots would be a great " spin" to pull on casual movie goers unaware of it's anime origins.
Eh? The Evas aren't robots either way, so I'm not sure what you're saying. In the concept art for LAEM, they're turned into these sorts of impractical Giger-esque biomechanical whatzits. I agree with CanonRAP...

I was referring to how they changed the Eva so that they look more 'organic'...when IMO the effect of 'enormous power restrained/dormant' worked much better with actual 'armour', rather than a gimp suit.

And the "armor" plating gives the surface level impression that they're robots, which works narratively (in that "mess around with your head over the course of the show" sort of way), and serves a practical purpose inside the NGE universe as well: Your organization's already shady and controversial operations need all the breaks they can get, and if you can make the public believe that you're using giant humanoid robots to fight Angels, instead of giant humans who were MADE from the First Angel...

("Gimp suits". >D )

CanonRAP

June 30th, 2006, 04:29 PM

You have to keep in mind that it's all just concept art, I remember looking at the Shrek concept art and there was a TON of drafts of how the characters would look, so I don't take the WETA designs seriously. The costumes are also just that, early draftings. The actresses that they are thinking WILL be 14 through maybe 16, so those drawings CAN'T be taken seriously. The NERV headquarters and all are impressive though.

'The actresses...WILL be 14 through maybe 16' sounds extremely ominous.

They need to make the mouth plate less obvious. If they do make the movie, I think the fact that the EVA's aren't actually robots would be a great " spin" to pull on casual movie goers unaware of it's anime origins.

That would be quite an interesting gimmick, as when I was re-watching EoE in my living room, and my dad walked by during the Harpy Buffet scene, he just went, "WTF I thought they were robots??!!"

Though I just really wish they followed the original source. Zero just looks weird with a mouth plate, and Nigouki...well, to me, it kind of ruins the effect of seeing Ni's true face later in EoE if you can see under her helmet regularly.

It was a stylization, and their placement on EVA-02 was never really convincing, either. (The lower eyes were placed where her mouth would be. ) Trashing the pop-open helmet is one of the EoE mods I applaud.

I always found those four 'goggles' odd. It makes Nigouki look cooler as a 'weapon' (night vision goggles!) but it's not like Evas really needs eyes anyway (at least, the Ryousanki doesn't)...

In the concept art for LAEM, they're turned into these sorts of impractical Giger-esque biomechanical whatzits.

:D

And the "armor" plating gives the surface level impression that they're robots, which works narratively (in that "mess around with your head over the course of the show" sort of way),

This is the same thing I thought. I would be the first to chuckle at the new-to-NGE audience members, who would think "nice-looking robots" then, after Shogouki goes bousou, ":O:blink:"

drgenestarwind

June 30th, 2006, 10:22 PM

...charlie sheen as gendo
christina ricci as rei

this movie is coming together nicely.

Sachiel03

July 1st, 2006, 03:29 PM

....Do i REALLY have to be the one whos gotta say it?...

ok....

Chuck Norris should be in it.

There.

The Eva Monkey

July 1st, 2006, 04:27 PM

Chuck Norris should be in it.For the love of all that is holy. MAKE THE CHUCK NORRIS JOKES STOP!

MagicianCamille

July 1st, 2006, 04:31 PM

For the love of all that is holy. MAKE THE CHUCK NORRIS JOKES STOP!

Really, I'm getting tired of all this Chuck Norris crap. It's not funny. It's never been funny, and it'll never be funny.

Hexon.Arq

July 1st, 2006, 04:31 PM

What's this about Chuck Norris, now?

NAveryW

July 1st, 2006, 06:03 PM

What's this about Chuck Norris, now?
What have I done; I've created a monster!!!

Ornette

July 1st, 2006, 06:32 PM

Hey, you brought MC back

Sachiel03

July 1st, 2006, 07:30 PM

Really, I'm getting tired of all this Chuck Norris crap. It's not funny. It's never been funny, and it'll never be funny.

I wasnt trying to be funny...

Before everyone gets off topic yelling at me....

Does anyone think theyll raise enough money to produce it?

Ornette

July 1st, 2006, 08:25 PM

Does anyone think theyll raise enough money to produce it?
This was the last that I've heard about the LAEM project (the real one, not Shinji_Ikari's)
http://www.animenation.net/forums/showthread.php?t=190792

Reichu

July 1st, 2006, 08:38 PM

Who the heck is Shinji-underscore-Ikari?

Chuck Norris should be the gate guard who gets stabbed from behind by the JSSDF guy.

Magami No ER

July 1st, 2006, 09:17 PM

Some member, wanted donations for his "live action Evangelion" thing...

The Eva Monkey

July 1st, 2006, 10:58 PM

Who the heck is Shinji-underscore-Ikari?http://www.evathemovie.com/

Click and laugh.

I recall encountering this individual at Trivial Being. He said that ADV and WETA were taking too long to produce a crappy movie, so they would go ahead and do it for them and do it a billion times better than them. A bunch of other ludicrous nonsense follows. Apparently they think they can produce professional grade effects and cinematography on a shoestring budget. Basically, a farce wrapped in an amount of ignorance that is profoundly painful. Most of their site's content is stolen from elsewhere. Their episode guide for instance is from Guide To Evanglion.

Dr. Nick

July 2nd, 2006, 12:45 AM

http://www.evathemovie.com/

Click and laugh.
They've managed to create a website..?
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y163/Dr-Nick/useful/mother_of_god.jpg

CanonRAP

July 2nd, 2006, 01:10 AM

I was kind of surprised they even got the idea of this.

The Eva Monkey

July 2nd, 2006, 08:33 AM

They've managed to create a website..?If by "create" you mean "take a template" and "steal content" and "slap their name on it" then yes.

Ornette

July 2nd, 2006, 09:12 AM

more laughs (http://www.animenation.net/forums/showthread.php?t=187225&page=1&pp=40) (warning, may be very painful)

The Eva Monkey

July 2nd, 2006, 10:34 AM

That thread is made of so much win. What a trip down memory that was.

Reichu

July 2nd, 2006, 10:38 AM

As the resident Alien/Giger geek, I can tell you that the Powerloader was a working suit, it was not a puppet in any sense. It had working hydraulics and everything. It couldn't carry great weight like it was portrayed, but it was still functional.
"Working suit"? It had a dude inside it; does that count?

Supercat

July 2nd, 2006, 11:14 AM

http://www.evathemovie.com/

Click and laugh.

I recall encountering this individual at Trivial Being. He said that ADV and WETA were taking too long to produce a crappy movie, so they would go ahead and do it for them and do it a billion times better than them. A bunch of other ludicrous nonsense follows. Apparently they think they can produce professional grade effects and cinematography on a shoestring budget. Basically, a farce wrapped in an amount of ignorance that is profoundly painful. Most of their site's content is stolen from elsewhere. Their episode guide for instance is from Guide To Evanglion.

Hey, so, I checked out their site out of curiosity, and it seems the person they've "cast" to be Misato is someone named Stephen.

Oh, also:

"John De.

Equipment Technition"

Uh-oh, better watch out, that there's not any ordinary technician, that's a Technition.

Mr. Tines

July 2nd, 2006, 11:55 AM

the person they've "cast" to be Misato is someone named Stephen.

"It's a trap!" :lol:

RyoTD

July 2nd, 2006, 02:49 PM

http://www.evathemovie.com/

Click and laugh.
Oh, I did. :lol:
The fact that they appearantly don't know the url of their own forum is quite laughable.

CanonRAP

July 2nd, 2006, 03:53 PM

more laughs (http://www.animenation.net/forums/showthread.php?t=187225&page=1&pp=40) (warning, may be very painful)

My side hurts. That thread is hilarious and very, very sad, often at the same time.

BTW, they are also talking about 'changing the bad ending' (paraphrase). I can't tell whether or not they're talking about EoE or EoTV, but regardless...

BLACKANGEL32076

July 5th, 2006, 06:16 PM

Too sad to laugh at.

Just...too dang sad.

NakedEYE666

July 5th, 2006, 08:29 PM

As long as Rei is naked in the movie, then Anno's goal has been accomplished.

Dinco

July 5th, 2006, 08:31 PM

I heard on some movie news site that Uwe Boll has shown interest in directing this movie.

Ornette

July 5th, 2006, 09:16 PM

I heard on some movie news site that Uwe Boll has shown interest in directing this movie.
Dear God,

Please please please don't let this happen.

Your's truly,
Ornette

Hexon.Arq

July 5th, 2006, 09:33 PM

Uwe Boll has shown interest in directing like my aunt shows interest in Denzel Washington; it don't mean anything.

Dinco

July 5th, 2006, 09:38 PM

I don't know it said something about him having a dialouge with ADV.

The Eva Monkey

July 5th, 2006, 09:51 PM

I heard on some movie news site that Uwe Boll has shown interest in directing this movie.Please don't make up rumors. Or we will have to sack you.

Jabberwok

July 6th, 2006, 02:45 AM

...Uwe Boll...
Rumors like that are pretty much the worst fear of anyone looking for an adaptation of anything. And doesn't he make films as a tax write-off? I think he's less concerned with a quality product and more with tax evasion.

Not to say this got off topic but back to 'organic' looking Evas. I don't neccessarily disapprove. I kinda like the Zero with teeth pic.

Maybe some 'beefier' armor will show up later in the design process. By beefier I mean thicker or more mechanical looking armor. Something to make any posible post-Zeruel, 'restraints' dialogue more epic and less well duh.

If anything has me hot for their new designs, though, it's the Angel concept art. #25, the 'idea of an EVA becoming a twisted version of its former self' one. First time I saw it I said, "That's some sexy Bardiel you've got there."

Still optimistic. I may be ordering a 20th aniv. box set before I order some tickets, but still optimistic.

Vaikyuko

July 6th, 2006, 06:28 AM

Precisely - there's some form of German legislature that allows Boll to make pathetically subpar films in order to garner very low profits, then have his sponsor corporations write it all off as taxes so that he somehow manages to make a several million dollar profit. That's why House of the Dead (damn you, Boll, I love those games!), BloodRayne, Alone In The Dark, etc all suck.

And he's working on directing more. In The Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale (based on Dungeon Siege, naturally), a Postal film based on the game, Far Cry, based on Far Cry, and lastly, a film called Le Farce, based on a webcomic (apparently of the same name).

Source: The not so infallible Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uwe_Boll

Longinus Fork

July 6th, 2006, 08:35 AM

Has it occured to anyone that even if this movie (and it probably will) suck. were all still gonna go see it anyway, even if just for the sake of being able to say "it sucks"

I mean while we all know that this movie isn't going to work it may appeal to a new generation you might become intereseted in the evangelion saga. Perhaps thats why its been made. to get a new audience?

Originally Posted by The Eva Monkey
http://www.evathemovie.com/

Click and laugh.
One word for that "project" PWNED

Ornette

July 6th, 2006, 09:02 AM

If it gets made, I'll go see it. My expectations aren't very high, plus I already own the worst possible thing in existence (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0193524/) and I managed to sit through that more than once. Even an Uwe Boll LAEM couldn't be any worse.

Edit: just to be clear on where I stand, I'm hoping for a good movie, but expecting a terrible one.

Reichu

July 6th, 2006, 10:10 AM

Should I be glad that I live under the rocks with the salamanders and am completely unfamiliar with this Uwe Boll guy?

just to be clear on where I stand, I'm hoping for a good movie, but expecting a terrible one.
I have no expectations, except that the Evas will make me do the mid-EoE Shinji scream.

And then, when the action figures and limited edition statuettes are released, I will do it again.

And then, when the "NOW A MAJOR MOTION PICTURE" stickers start appearing on the anime DVDs in stores, I will tell Rei to kill everybody, especially me.

But I might take it back if a healthy influx of newbies begging for Baptism appears out of nowhere.

Soluzar

July 6th, 2006, 10:37 AM

Should I be glad that I live under the rocks with the salamanders and am completely unfamiliar with this Uwe Boll guy?

Very. However, I do not intend to allow you to retain your blissful ignorance. :P

Vaikyuko

July 6th, 2006, 12:03 PM

Rach, Uwe Boll is the kind of person that upon meeting, you want to punch him in the face and then proceed to do horrible, horrible things to his anatomy simply because of the absolute CRAP he's made. That's how unloved he is. I'm surprised you haven't heard of him before, to be honest...

Reichu

July 6th, 2006, 12:17 PM

I've heard the name, but twas nothing more than a name. (Much like "Chuck Norris".) I'll try to keep it that way, unless curiosity gets the better of me and I investigate just so that *I* can say he sucks, too.

snowangel6

July 6th, 2006, 01:10 PM

Hey Reichu, I cant blame you for wanting to do the shinji screams, but I think the movie will SUCK @$$, and those guys in hollywood will probably getting complaints on why they even made the LEAM. But if those guys in hollywood actually think they're going to be able to even come close to creating the eva's and angels, they are dreaming too far ahead.

ZeroRyoko1974

July 6th, 2006, 01:32 PM

why won't the idea of a live action eva movie just die? Someone needs to send a copy of the live action Utena, La Blue Girl, Guvyer, Kiko Kamen, and Devilman movies to anyone who thinks of making an anime movie, and they have to watch them until they say they will not make an eva movie

Jabberwok

July 6th, 2006, 03:36 PM

why won't the idea of a live action eva movie just die?

Because of this video (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4303537030524950783) (more in this thread (http://animenation.net/forums/showthread.php?t=190792) ) and this SFX studio's (http://www.wetaworkshop.co.nz/projects/filmography/film/neon_genesis) involvement. You may or may not have heard of them from such films as "The Lord (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120737/) of the Rings (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0167261/) Trilogy (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0167260/)" and "King (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0360717/) Kong (http://www.wetaworkshop.co.nz/projects/filmography/film/kk)" among other titles (http://www.wetaworkshop.co.nz/projects/filmography/film).

Not to sound like a total *ss, but this flick's been in development hell for a while and is finaly starting to move somewhere, albeit slowly. Check out here (http://www.wetaworkshop.co.nz/projects/filmography/galleries/neon_genesis) for some concept art and here (http://eva.trivialbeing.net/) for some of the latest news.

Someone needs to send a copy of the live action...
A position like that would be similar to showing someone Batman & Robin; Supermans III & IV; and the original, unreleased Fantastic Four movie and then telling them not to make Batman Begins, Superman Returns, or the Spiderman Trilogy. Every genre has its gems and they are always outnumbered by its stinkers.

Only from the failure of the many, can there be success from the few or the one.

Mr. sickVisionz

July 6th, 2006, 03:55 PM

Some things that make me super doubt the Uwe Bole rumors...

1) On IGN they were saying that they were in talks with like 3 major directors. Uwe Bole has yet to do a major film. House of the Dead and some other super flop are his only credits.

2) WETA is behind this. I can't really believe that WETA (the cats that did the FX on Lord of the Rings) are backing this hardcore with Uwe Bole being the director

3) IGN said that Robin Williams is attached to the project and is a major EVA fan. I've read other interviews with him and can say that he is indeed a BIG fan of anime and comic books and that he has alot of respect for the genre. Plus, he's a high quality actor. I can't seriously believe that he's attached to the project with Uwe Bole directing it.

On a sidenote, I hope they change the story up from the show. Alot of things only work if you have like (20 minutes x 26 episodes) amount of time to tell a story. I think they should change it and break it down to where it can sensibly fit into a trilogy at most. Ideally the first film will be something like the Matrix where the main players/conflict are established and even if no more sequels are made, you still feel like you got a complete story. Of course there'd be more stuff you didn't know about, but unless you're an EVA fan you'd never know you missed anything.

ElDusto

July 6th, 2006, 04:31 PM

3) IGN said that Robin Williams is attached to the project and is a major EVA fan. I've read other interviews with him and can say that he is indeed a BIG fan of anime and comic books and that he has alot of respect for the genre. Plus, he's a high quality actor. I can't seriously believe that he's attached to the project with Uwe Bole directing it.
I forgot what movie it was, but Robin Williams played a psycho film developer that started stalking a family he was developing pictures for. Anyway, durring a scene the movie, he buys a toy for the son of the family, it was one of the Harpies from EoE. When I noticed that I was like, "Hey that's an EVA." Now I know why it was chosen, it was probably part of Robin's collection.

Magami No ER

July 6th, 2006, 04:38 PM

^One Hour Photo.

Soluzar

July 6th, 2006, 04:41 PM

Yeah, I know it's borderline trolling of me to keep saying it, but... still never gonna happen.

Vaikyuko

July 6th, 2006, 04:42 PM

I still have an undying ambition to find that film on DVD, buy it, and watch it for the sole purpose of that harpy.

Soluzar

July 6th, 2006, 04:44 PM

I still have an undying ambition to find that film on DVD, buy it, and watch it for the sole purpose of that harpy.

Hah. When I saw that post, I was mentally counting down the seconds until you got here. I don't think I quite reached thirty. You're so predictable! ;)

Magami No ER

July 6th, 2006, 04:54 PM

I still have an undying ambition to find that film on DVD, buy it, and watch it for the sole purpose of that harpy.
I did that for that mere reason as well, but at least the movie was watch/enjoyable.

~bloody eyes.

ElDusto

July 6th, 2006, 05:12 PM

Yeah, I know it's borderline trolling of me to keep saying it, but... still never gonna happen.
It'll happen, it just won't be anytime soon. The earliest we might see the first of the three films will probably be 2010.

Tidusauron12

July 6th, 2006, 05:17 PM

Hmm... damn. I don't want them to do this... please tell me this is a lie...

Soluzar

July 6th, 2006, 06:49 PM

It'll happen, it just won't be anytime soon. The earliest we might see the first of the three films will probably be 2010.

I can't agree. Studios option hundreds of movies every year that they never end up making. WETA do thousands of production designs a year that never get used. I don't think anyone involved in the movie industry has the slightest intention to do anything other than use this to drum up some extra publicity.

Did you notice how well it's working, by the way? :P

thewayneiac

July 6th, 2006, 06:55 PM

Hey, check it out! Eva Monkey got banned. Here he discusses it in his own forum:

http://forums.evamonkey.com/viewtopic.php?t=1386

His final post (at least for now) is at the top of page seven of this thread.

Vaikyuko

July 7th, 2006, 06:02 AM

Hah. When I saw that post, I was mentally counting down the seconds until you got here. I don't think I quite reached thirty. You're so predictable! ;)

You'd be surprised; I'm less predictable than one would think.

In any case, I'm saddened about EM's ban. I liked him. *posts on the EM forum*

Soluzar

July 7th, 2006, 06:18 AM

In any case, I'm saddened about EM's ban. I liked him. *posts on the EM forum*

There's no way that you can be surprised by this. Eva Monkey has been warned repeatedly, both by S-Mods and Admins. What amuses me is the way that Eva Monkey people seem to think that the Eva forum is all there is to AnimeNation.

Kevin

July 7th, 2006, 07:53 AM

Please keep the thread on topic. Thank you very much.

Vaikyuko

July 7th, 2006, 08:54 AM

Please keep the thread on topic. Thank you very much.

Aye aye, mon capitan.

I recently saw some new concept art, BTW - I have all the old, first release concept art, but can anyone link me to the new stuff? I have yet to check it all out (aside from some new angles on EVA-02 wearing the C(inematic)-Type Equipment).

Reichu

July 7th, 2006, 09:41 AM

It's all at http://eva.trivialbeing.net/.

Takumi

July 7th, 2006, 09:59 AM

I can't log onto his forum for some reason. It would be nice if you could let him know that.

ElDusto

July 7th, 2006, 12:36 PM

I can't agree. Studios option hundreds of movies every year that they never end up making. WETA do thousands of production designs a year that never get used. I don't think anyone involved in the movie industry has the slightest intention to do anything other than use this to drum up some extra publicity.

Did you notice how well it's working, by the way? :P
Well, we'll see. If there's no director by 1st quarter 2007, then this whole thing is a wash.

Mr. sickVisionz

July 7th, 2006, 03:52 PM

I think it might happen. For a long time it was just rumors from WETA being interested. In the past like 6 months its jumped from that to them talking with directors and from a major actor being behind/attached to the project.

Its like how transformers was talked about for a long time, but then in like the last year it went from "people are interested in a transformer movie" to them having a director/producer and assembling a cast to now theres a teaser trailer attached to Pirates of the Carribean 2. I think Eva is starting to do that.

ElDusto

July 7th, 2006, 10:12 PM

Soluzar

July 7th, 2006, 10:17 PM

I think it might happen. For a long time it was just rumors from WETA being interested. In the past like 6 months its jumped from that to rumors of them talking with directors and from a major actor being behind/attached to the project.

I fixed that for you. Is there any actual proof they've been talking to a director who was interested? Is there any proof that this major actor is taking the project seriously? Is there any proof that this isn't just the publicity machine grinding away according to SOP?

Vaikyuko

July 8th, 2006, 06:44 AM

I fixed that for you. Is there any actual proof they've been talking to a director who was interested? Is there any proof that this major actor is taking the project seriously? Is there any proof that this isn't just the publicity machine grinding away according to SOP?

There was that thing about Robin Williams wanting to be in on the project, I think. Personally, with him helping out, I think it wouldn't suck as much as I'd expect it to.

CanonRAP

July 8th, 2006, 08:25 AM

There was that thing about Robin Williams wanting to be in on the project, I think. Personally, with him helping out, I think it wouldn't suck as much as I'd expect it to.

IMO, the Japanese should have themselves done a live-action version. Maybe not directed by Anno, but TBH, I've never trusted the Western film industry.

Soluzar

July 8th, 2006, 08:27 AM

There was that thing about Robin Williams wanting to be in on the project, I think. Personally, with him helping out, I think it wouldn't suck as much as I'd expect it to.

Well yeah, but what I'm getting at is this - Is there any reason to believe that Robin Williams isn't just saying that to generate a buzz, and keep his own name heard in industry circles?

Vaikyuko

July 8th, 2006, 10:21 AM

Well yeah, but what I'm getting at is this - Is there any reason to believe that Robin Williams isn't just saying that to generate a buzz, and keep his own name heard in industry circles?

Possibility, but you never know. For example, Kirsten Dunst might have leaked that Sandman, Hobgoblin (which appears to actually be the second Green Goblin, unless it's a color switch like Hobgoblin 2211), and Venom for the same reason, but as it turned out, Sony Pictures later confirmed that Sandman, Green Goblin II, and Venom were all in the film. So you really have to sit back and think about these things. Y'know?

Hexon.Arq

July 8th, 2006, 11:35 AM

IMO, the Japanese should have themselves done a live-action version. Maybe not directed by Anno, but TBH, I've never trusted the Western film industry.

You have to admit, though (or at least I have to admit), that a live-action Japanese production might have that extra touch of authenticity going for it, but it would have just as much chance of sucking as a Western film, possibly more given the inherent technical limitations resulting from "reasonable" Japanese film budgets. (Sure, they did Casshern for about $10M, but setting story and performance aside, did that really look as great as it could have had we made it?)

Eveen when I was pushing hard for national authenticity, I don't think I've ever suggested that the film be made solely by a Japanese studio. The tradeoff between playing it safe by keeping the license at home and what might have been had we brought it here pushes it West in my eyes, at least in terms of production.

Sachiel03

July 8th, 2006, 12:08 PM

Not meaning to get off topic or anything..But Wetas also workin on a Halo movie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_Movie).

*Back on topic* If Weta ever releases a teaser trailer...THEN i will be convinced the movie will be made.

Dr. Nick

July 8th, 2006, 12:16 PM

I heard Uwe Boll is going to direct Halo.

Vaikyuko

July 8th, 2006, 12:29 PM

I heard Uwe Boll is going to direct Halo.

Unfortunately, Bungie disagrees (Halo is a movie I'd love to see Boll's version of...for my own evil purposes).

Sachiel03

July 8th, 2006, 12:30 PM

I heard Uwe Boll is going to direct Halo.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOO

Well at least we know Boll wont do Metal Gear. (http://www.joystiq.com/2006/02/03/kojima-on-uwe-boll-its-impossible/)

CanonRAP

July 8th, 2006, 03:06 PM

Well at least we know Boll wont do Metal Gear. (http://www.joystiq.com/2006/02/03/kojima-on-uwe-boll-its-impossible/)

Oh yeah, didn't Kojima like, completely pwn him on his web journal or something?

IIRC, he said (paraphrase), "NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT! Why does he think he needs to do a MGS movie?!"

*koji

July 13th, 2006, 03:05 PM

In my opinion i think they SUCK,just look at the pic of Asuka and youll know what im talking about.

Hear! Hear! There is no real-life girl simultaneously hot enough and cool enough to play Asuka. And those pics on their site just ain't right at all. If she's 14, then so am I. That's one thing I couldn't stand about 90210: all those 25-year-old high school students. If it happens, I'd probably watch it, then cry myself to sleep later.

Soluzar

July 13th, 2006, 03:09 PM

Hear! Hear! There is no real-life girl simultaneously hot enough and cool enough to play Asuka. And those pics on their site just ain't right at all. If she's 14, then so am I. That's one thing I couldn't stand about 90210: all those 25-year-old high school students. If it happens, I'd probably watch it, then cry myself to sleep later.

Considering the suggestive nature of much of the Evangelion plot, Hollywood won't dare to use anyone younger than 18 for either of the girls. They could clean the story up, but why bother? Sex sells.

CanonRAP

July 13th, 2006, 03:15 PM

Hear! Hear! There is no real-life girl simultaneously hot enough and cool enough to play Asuka. And those pics on their site just ain't right at all. If she's 14, then so am I. That's one thing I couldn't stand about 90210: all those 25-year-old high school students. If it happens, I'd probably watch it, then cry myself to sleep later.

I think they're just going for looks at this point (like Soluzar says, Hollywood would never try to find a pre-18 to do it), but the WETA concept arts are screwing that over, too.

On the other hand, seeing 20-something's do the NGE lines could be...'interesting'.

*koji

July 13th, 2006, 04:47 PM

like Soluzar says, Hollywood would never try to find a pre-18 to do it

Alas, you folks may be right! If the original EVA pilots had been 20, I'd be OK with it in live-action. It's just that I'm totally in love with this anime and don't want to see it hacked up.

On the other hand, it seems like a lot of the sexual connotations surrounding Rei and Asuka were added after the fact by fans. I don't recall a whole lot in the anime (or maybe I'm just dense). They could cut Asuka's panty shot on the ship and cover up Rei here and there and not even tamper with the plot. Asuka kisses Shinji. OMG! Call out the censors!

Supercat

July 13th, 2006, 05:27 PM

Alas, you folks may be right! If the original EVA pilots had been 20, I'd be OK with it in live-action. It's just that I'm totally in love with this anime and don't want to see it hacked up.

On the other hand, it seems like a lot of the sexual connotations surrounding Rei and Asuka were added after the fact by fans. I don't recall a whole lot in the anime (or maybe I'm just dense). They could cut Asuka's panty shot on the ship and cover up Rei here and there and not even tamper with the plot. Asuka kisses Shinji. OMG! Call out the censors!

Umm... What are you talking about? Hollywood has no problem with sexual connotations involving pre-18 girls. Ever heard of Thirteen? It wasn't really what one considers a "Hollywood" film, but it was certainly a huge sensation and widely-recognized enough to be called one. Or, even something like Mean Girls... That was a Hollywood movie, and there was some sexual content involving pre-18 actors (actresses, I suppose). True, Tina Fey had to cut or change some content lest the film be made into an R rated movie-- things like the line, "Has your cherry been popped?" A little ridicilous if you ask me, since it's a perfectly harmless line-- but I doubt ADV would care that much or would even need to resort to such measures, since there isn't all that much sexual content involving Rei and Asuka... Well, minus the nudity, most of which could easily be ommitted, anyway.

NAveryW

July 13th, 2006, 09:07 PM

Or, even something like Mean Girls... That was a Hollywood movie, and there was some sexual content involving pre-18 actors (actresses, I suppose). True, Tina Fey had to cut or change some content lest the film be made into an R rated movie-- things like the line, "Has your cherry been popped?"
Luckily, you can now buy the uncut, unrated DVD version that you couldn't see in theaters!

Actually, I have a feeling that's what they're going to do with Eva. Release a PG-13 version in theaters and an unrated version on DVD. Of course, I think that if they truly want to "do it right", they'll make at least the last movie in the trilogy rated R.

On the other hand, seeing 20-something's do the NGE lines could be...'interesting'.
Yeah, the whole thing about Asuka's period would be pretty funny for a 20-year-old. XD

ElDusto

July 13th, 2006, 09:52 PM

Luckily, you can now buy the uncut, unrated DVD version that you couldn't see in theaters!

Actually, I have a feeling that's what they're going to do with Eva. Release a PG-13 version in theaters and an unrated version on DVD. Of course, I think that if they truly want to "do it right", they'll make at least the last movie in the trilogy rated R.

Yeah, the whole thing about Asuka's period would be pretty funny for a 20-year-old. XD
I'm pretty sure that if the EVA movies are made, they will have an R rating, as most of the fans of this anime are old enough to see an R rated flick without bringing their mom's. I mean, how can you make an Eva movie and keep it clean enough to be a PG13 rating? The anime is full of graphic violence and EoE is super graphically violent.

*koji

July 14th, 2006, 06:52 AM

Umm... What are you talking about? Hollywood has no problem with sexual connotations involving pre-18 girls.

Hey! Your're right! Actually I have Thirteen. Got it specifically for our 11-year-old daughter to watch. There's a lesson there. I also got Kids for them to watch when they're older, and that starts out with a 12- or 13-year-old getting boinked. Then there's the uncut version of Bastard out of Carolina that I let said daughter watch at 8 or 9 because I didn't know what I'd seen before had been cut. Now that was an interesting moment!!! Don't know what I was thinking about NGE. Must have allowed myself to led into a state of panic.

Either way, the more I think about making the EVA pilots older, the more I shout, "No, no, no, no, NO!" There's just too much of the plot wrapped around their age. They're in school, dammit, and how many subplots did that spawn? But more importantly, a lot the character interaction was based on the fact that they were kids and burdened with this world-saving responsibility not having the maturity such a job would call for. As I recall, the reason Shinji agreed to go to NERV in the first place was on the hope that his father actually wanted him, only to discover that he wanted him for the project and not for himself. That would have gone totally differently with a 20-year-old. In all likelihood, he would have given up on him by then and responded "Fucque him!" His staying in Misato's apartment could have been very different! :blink: Changing the relative date of Second Impact would be easy, manipulating everything else would not. You might be able to make a good story with 20-year-old pilots, but it definitely wouldn't be the same story, and fans would not be happy. At least this one wouldn't.

Maffew

July 17th, 2006, 04:49 AM

(Taken from other topic)

Hello, I'm currently going around various Evangelion message boards so many of you may recognise my sig or name.

I am trying to find other NGE fans who are not looking forward to the live-action remake. I am undergoing such a silly little task because I am quite alarmed at the fact that every board I have been to, there have been literally no other people who are against it. Other than me. This is odd. So I'm just trying to find others, or failing that, people to discuss the live-action remake in general. Or just NGE, given that it's a frigging NGE forum.

Thanks for reading.

*koji

July 17th, 2006, 06:03 AM

You might glean from my previous posts that I'm not really happy with the idea. I have this sinking feeling that if they go through with it, they're going to botch it, and that will leave a sour taste in my mouth

have no idea why this sig isn't showing. Oh well.
For some reason the sysops of this board have images in signatures disabled. Don't know why; perhaps its a bandwidth issue. I snipe about it a little in my sig, but it's not a huge deal.

Maffew

July 17th, 2006, 06:09 AM

Magnificen!. More people agree. I have optimism for the human race once again. Thanks.

Pepperidge

July 17th, 2006, 10:53 AM

Mr. Tines

July 17th, 2006, 11:20 AM

I look at the track record or Hollywood remakes of classics - things like The Italian Job (200?) or King Kong (twice!) - and feel that it speaks for itself.

Maffew

July 17th, 2006, 11:56 AM

Robin Williams may actually do that too. Meh, I can think of worse people. My own personal pick would be Bill Duke, as he looks perfect here, in this awesome photoshop I did:
http://i1.tinypic.com/206oe9s.jpg

It doesn't need to be said, but I'm not being serious.

And Mr Tines, I like the Zenith avatar.

Supercat

July 17th, 2006, 12:44 PM

I look at the track record or Hollywood remakes of classics - things like The Italian Job (200?) or King Kong (twice!) - and feel that it speaks for itself.

Are you saying this as in favor, or not in favor, because both of those remakes were pretty good, in my opinion. Pretty standard Hollywood fare, but I wasn't expecting anything else, so, they were successful in my opinion... Better than most sludge being released nowadays, anyway.

Mr. Tines

July 17th, 2006, 01:03 PM

Are you saying this as in favor, or not in favor

The latter - they keep the surface shiny while raping the soul of the original.

thewayneiac

July 17th, 2006, 01:53 PM

I'm against it, and I still say they will get Gary Oldman to play Gendo.

I look at the track record or Hollywood remakes of classics - things like The Italian Job (200?) or King Kong (twice!) - and feel that it speaks for itself.

Or the hideous American version of Godzilla.

Hexon.Arq

July 17th, 2006, 02:26 PM

...Or the hideous American version of Godzilla.

You know, someone must have liked that movie for them to offer GINO the role of a Doritos spokesguana. (Were they under the impression that anyone else did, though, that's the question...)

Supercat

July 17th, 2006, 05:21 PM

The latter - they keep the surface shiny while raping the soul of the original.
I suppose that's true enough. Neither were very much like the originals. The Italian Job wasn't exactly a remake, though... It seemed more like a tribute of sorts, which perhaps is why I was more lenient towards it.

Now the Godzilla remake... That's a better example, I think. But, then again, let's not kid ourselves, the originals, while enjoyable, weren't exactly masterpieces, either.

Hexon.Arq

July 17th, 2006, 07:17 PM

Now the Godzilla remake... That's a better example, I think. But, then again, let's not kid ourselves, the originals, while enjoyable, weren't exactly masterpieces, either.

The Godzilla remake, and its circumstance of messily sacreliging itself all over Manhattan, was spawned from a very different set of circumstances. It was handed over to the Emmerich-Devlin team based on a precedent; that is to say, GINO was so awful on account of ID4 being so successful. Had Tristar Pictures not been so desparate for the same numbers that ID4 brought to 20th Century Fox two years prior, the Toho Agreements might have been left in tact, and the project handed over to a director who actually enjoyed the original Godzilla films instead of openly insulting them to the press-- I believe it would have been a very different film, and perhaps even one that might have pushed in the other direction when summoned into a Westernization debate.

And once again, in typing I have lost my point.