Is hentai getting too Extreme

[casper1927]

I want to know if there really is a market for extreme Hentai such as Tokineiro,Bondage game and Harvest night. Do the bondage and torture Hentai`s really turn people on or do they just sicken people and have no real erotic value.

I know there are fans out there who like the bondage and rape scenarios in hentai heck these have been around for years, but are there really fans out there who want to see torture and mutilation in hentai as in bondage Game.

Could the interest to see more Extreme hentai not Just those i listed above, but Lolicon Hentai, Give the goverment watchdogs an excuse to ban all Genres of hentai in order to stop the distribution of Extreme and Lolicon titles

[Animematt55]

some people ar ejust.....weird i guess

[Nyuu]

The answer to this question is simply YES. :eww:

[ShanceChance]

"Different strokes for different folks."

Supply and demand. If it exists, there are people who want to see it. Othwerwise, it wouldn't have been made.

[Matsu'o Tsurayaba]

Fascinating question.I would have to say yes...a limit is being reached.Like there are some scenes in the Bible Black series or Harvest Nights.Do people really like that?What ever happened to the regular hentai encounter,or the catgirl scene..

[bidule]

"Different strokes for different folks."


If you are talking about Hentai, well, no longer. Most Japanese H releases feature the same kind of story : young girls being raped and sexually dominated. More and more scat, violence, hard SM, like in Requiem or Nightsfhit Nurses, and less and less stories were girls are in control of their sexuality.

If you look backward in time at classics like Cream Lemon or Cool Devices, they were way more diverse that what we have nowaday.

Now if there a market for that kind of extreme hentai ? I would say yes, alas. Market and demand, as someone previously remarked.

[Lupin The 3rd]

I say to each there own. I find nothing wrong with Hentai being to nasty if it stops people from doing it in real life. You know If you cencer one hentai then you will have them all the same. Soon you'll be watching barbie sex and thats not nice.

[NTR]

I think part of the thrill of anime is doing things that you cannot do in reality. Hentai sparks your imagination and lets you go places in your mind that video cannot take you.

Night Shift Nurses was the first Hentai I ever saw and I loved it, I recently saw Bible Black 1-6 and Bible Black Origins and I really liked the extreme scenes in the episodes because it was done tastefully and combined with a rich storyline. I don't like hentai's with monsters that have 20 foot penises ravaging girls and flying around in caves, that's just nonsense.

I have noticed that in most of these extreme hentai episodes, the bad guy who rapes ppl and violates women is usually killed at the end, so maybe there is something to be said through these extreme anime series about what reality has in store for behavior like this.

--NTR

[Takumi]

I want to know if there really is a market for extreme Hentai such as Tokineiro,Bondage game and Harvest night. Do the bondage and torture Hentai`s really turn people on or do they just sicken people and have no real erotic value.

I know there are fans out there who like the bondage and rape scenarios in hentai heck these have been around for years, but are there really fans out there who want to see torture and mutilation in hentai as in bondage Game.

Could the interest to see more Extreme hentai not Just those i listed above, but Lolicon Hentai, Give the goverment watchdogs an excuse to ban all Genres of hentai in order to stop the distribution of Extreme and Lolicon titles

Don't knock Bondage Game. I like that series.

[predecessor]

stuff like this has been around always. different strokes for different folks as someone said. and some is done quite nicely and tastefully*as tastefull as it can get i guess*

[Soluzar]

The older stuff is just as bad. There just wasn't as much of it, nor was it so well-known.

[NakedEYE666]

Lolicon hentai rules. Or at least I liked it when I was younger. :D Especailly when it comes to characters from non-hentai serieses in hentai, man you can't not love those.

Actually I think Hentai is very extreme, but there's definetly nothing wrong with that. People like what they like, and liking hardcore stuff doesn't mean that they're violent or malicious people in real life. The market's obviously there. It's great that we have animation to do that stuff with instead of torturing real people! Eh?

[loplop]

What you have to remember is that "Hentai" is made with the norms of a culture that has different sensibilities than Western or primarily American-Western Culture. What we might find extreme here is quite acceptable there . . . .

[mimage]

I want to know if there really is a market for extreme Hentai such as Tokineiro,Bondage game and Harvest night. Do the bondage and torture Hentai`s really turn people on or do they just sicken people and have no real erotic value. Personally.. not really for me.. but I like those extreme hentai.. hentai is not all beat off value to me.. some is emotional value. Story wise the whole life being f'ed up through a gang in Harvest Night is very interesting to me. Not something I go back to though to touch myself.

I know there are fans out there who like the bondage and rape scenarios in hentai heck these have been around for years, but are there really fans out there who want to see torture and mutilation in hentai as in bondage Game.Well to answer this.. I have the same view as ShanceChance
"Different strokes for different folks."

As for the Rape hentai I love it! but I don't agree with rape at all or get excited over it with the main concept. Generally in hentai the girl in the end enjoys it and loves being violated.. well this is the plot in a lot of rape hentai.. when it's the girl doesn't seem to enjoy it at all.. I don't enjoy it.. so just the way it works in that way I do enjoy it. So I don't think rape hentai is a big deal. When hentai deals with rape and the victim is not enjoying it.. i think it's more for story value and for some that might be exciting.

Could the interest to see more Extreme hentai not Just those i listed above, but Lolicon Hentai, Give the goverment watchdogs an excuse to ban all Genres of hentai in order to stop the distribution of Extreme and Lolicon titlesOK I think you're bein just paranoid here. There is always fights about this going on in the US yet there isn't any ban on hentai.. just certain types in america.. though I am shocked that they have been able to release some hentais like "Story of little Monica" because it's lolicon ish.. so is "Princess 69" sort of and what is a real shocker is that they have been able to release "Kite" uncut since it contains 2 to 3 scenes of actual lolicon content. But in all honesty you've got more things to worry about when it comes to the american government.

[VacantEyes]

I say to each there own. I find nothing wrong with Hentai being to nasty if it stops people from doing it in real life.

I've seen no evidence that watching it prevents people from acting it out. Unless, perhaps, you have a link to some?

I have noticed that in most of these extreme hentai episodes, the bad guy who rapes ppl and violates women is usually killed at the end, so maybe there is something to be said through these extreme anime series about what reality has in store for behavior like this.

A lifetime of raping, abusing, beating, and maiming followed by a quick death in adulthood is among the weakest of warnings in my view..

stuff like this has been around always. different strokes for different folks as someone said. and some is done quite nicely and tastefully*as tastefull as it can get i guess*

It has not been around in nearly this quantity. I agree with the OP in that we seem to be seeing an increase of scat and blood themes among other taboo subjects and that this can cast a negative light on most hentai in general.

What you have to remember is that "Hentai" is made with the norms of a culture that has different sensibilities than Western or primarily American-Western Culture. What we might find extreme here is quite acceptable there . . . .

From what I understand many of the larger differences were substantially softened after WWII. Since then there has been additional long-term pressure to bring Japanese cultural norms more and more in line with the west, including acceptable content for photo books and the like. Just because Japan isn't a Christian country with Christian values doesn't mean that Christian countries aren't trying to push their values on Japan and succeeding. Sometimes it's a good thing and sometimes it's a bad thing, but the direction is always the same (more censorship of pornography).

OK I think you're bein just paranoid here. There is always fights about this going on in the US yet there isn't any ban on hentai.. just certain types in america.. though I am shocked that they have been able to release some hentais like "Story of little Monica" because it's lolicon ish.. so is "Princess 69" sort of and what is a real shocker is that they have been able to release "Kite" uncut since it contains 2 to 3 scenes of actual lolicon content. But in all honesty you've got more things to worry about when it comes to the american government.

Don't misinterpret what you're seeing. Nobody got an notarized sign-off from the US government to publish and distribute Little Monica or Kite and those products can be challenged at any time. Their limited appeal and volume are what keep them under the radar, and NOT any form of approval by the US government.

[K3MONO]

Ok.
First of all hentais origin was rape. And personnaly it all depends on what video, obviously. Like Dr.Shamless for instance ( hehe yep i just wolnt leave it alone ) they do some pretty extreme stuff. Overall if somethings getting to high on hentai its the price!!

[Matsu'o Tsurayaba]

I think part of the thrill of anime is doing things that you cannot do in reality. Hentai sparks your imagination and lets you go places in your mind that video cannot take you.

--NTR

You mean the fact that some urges can be done in hentai,and not in real life.Sure everyone knows that,its one of the reasons why the hentai genre even exists.

But the point is,at what point does those urges..just become plain weird..or odd to see.

[Dj_Saito]

Ok.
First of all hentais origin was rape. And personnaly it all depends on what video, obviously. Like Dr.Shamless for instance ( hehe yep i just wolnt leave it alone ) they do some pretty extreme stuff. Overall if somethings getting to high on hentai its the price!!


You will have to show me proof of that....link maybe?

But I do agree that there is an increase in the more extreme sexual behaviors being shown in hentai. As far as casting a bad light on hentai, if the main stream were to become aware of hentai it would be seen as in a bad light reguardless.

[K3MONO]

I have no proof of that. However thats what im standing strong to because when i used to be on this forum there was a hug debate. I was on my old account which i have lost the name and password. About hentais origins and eventually it was excepted that the origin of drawings of rape. And im sorry i didnt say this before i have no proof on the matter. However i also believe it because in a good amount of hentai has rape in it.

[TK]

Depends on your idea of extreme

[loplop]

Depends on your idea of extreme

That's just it, it depends on you definition of extreme. It can also depend on the story. I don't care for Night Shift Nurses, But similar events take place in Gibo Mai (Step Sister) and Maison Plasir and I don't have issues with what is in either . . . .

[HitokiriShadow]

While hentai can certainly be pretty discusting at times, I think the worst of it hasn't been animated (yet). I've made the mistake of reading some guro manga before (if my curiousity was a living creature, I would torture and murder it for that) and THAT was some sick stuff.

I'm talking about people being cooked alive and then eated, people being turned inside out, someone's skin being taken off to be worn by someone else, and probably worse things that my memory has mercifully blotted out.

Some of the bondage stuff gets pretty sick (I skipped a lot of the scenes in Princess 69), but there is far worse that hasn't been animated, at least not to my knowledge.

[Joeshie]

Most of the bad stuff is found in mangas and doujinshi. I can't tell you of some of the nasty things I have seen on 4chan's /b/, because I have forced myself to forget such things.

[Defiled one]

guro is only for veterans that have stomach.... seeing things there, makes you want to sleep with the lights on and barricate your closet...

[HitokiriShadow]

Or wish painful deaths to the authors and weep for humanity when you realize that people actually get off on that stuff.

[Defiled one]

what i have seen in Guro cause i get some for some guys you also like hentai... sick...

in my opinion o would gadly be alone with a rapist than to be with a gurist.. they are just.O_O

seeing the things i have seen...i mean i just cant talk is too sick.....

[Sanchu]

I want to know if there really is a market for extreme Hentai such as Tokineiro,Bondage game and Harvest night. Do the bondage and torture Hentai`s really turn people on or do they just sicken people and have no real erotic value.

I know there are fans out there who like the bondage and rape scenarios in hentai heck these have been around for years, but are there really fans out there who want to see torture and mutilation in hentai as in bondage Game.

Could the interest to see more Extreme hentai not Just those i listed above, but Lolicon Hentai, Give the goverment watchdogs an excuse to ban all Genres of hentai in order to stop the distribution of Extreme and Lolicon titles

I've recently seen quite a bit of hentai and just like porn it gets boring pretty quick. At first it was pretty kinky and interesting..but after awhile it became more of a sick obcession :redface: NOT!! Actually after awhile i just wanted to collect everything like a pack rat and not watch anything. It's just another step for me in collecting any and every form of anime :)

[DFAx]

i think it can get pretty extreme

i like the plain stuff

[White hell]

I was reading this H-manga "Bonritai Kibun", one of the stories dealt with rape. though it wasn't extreme, the victim was psycologically effected and it made me feel bad after reading it. I know eventually I'll get over it but still. . .

[ladypyramidhead]

In "Kite" she was dubbed as a college student.

And there is no law against a fictional illustration of a minor. But if it is a photograph or actually victimizes a kid under 18 (21 in some states), then it's very illegal.

Well, it's true that Hentai/Ero has gotten a bit strange (sometimes comically so) but I think it helps
people who have extreme fetishes like guro or incest on not acting out this fantasy on someone.

LOL! Dr. Shameless is hot.

[ShanceChance]

There should be more light and romantic stuff. While there is a demand for hardcore rape/degrading, there is also a demand for light and fluffy cute stuff. I'm starting to wonder how popular titles which don't feature rape/humiliation/torture are in Japan.

[loplop]

They are still popular, but for the most part, they are not what the US companies seem to want to license here of late. Ringetsu, Do You Know the MILFing Man? and Consenting Adultery are about the only exceptions with the exceptions of re-releases . . . .

[ShanceChance]

They are still popular, but for the most part, they are not what the US companies seem to want to license here of late. Ringetsu, Do You Know the MILFing Man? and Consenting Adultery are about the only exceptions with the exceptions of re-releases . . . .
Are there other titles being made in Japan that fall under "romantic/fluffy"?

Other than the titles you just mentioned, the only recent romantic/fluffy titles I can think of that have been released in Japan are by PinkPineapple, and they don't license to North America anymore.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

I don't think a majority of Japanese viewers watch Hentai for wholesome vanilla sex.

[certhas]

I'd like to see a romantic tentacle story :wub:
Once read one in a manga, thought i cant remember the title of it.
(was a girl who loved some kind of tentacle pet ? and hid it from her father ;) )

certhas

[DocWatson]

I'd like to see a romantic tentacle story :wub:
Once read one in a manga, thought i cant remember the title of it.
(was a girl who loved some kind of tentacle pet ? and hid it from her father ;) )That sounds fun. ^_^

On "nasty versus fluffy", Shawne Kleckner, Dark Lord of The Other Big Anime Specialty Retailer (from an ANN Forums thread (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=471265#471265)):

I'd just like to point out how hard it is to actually find a decent hentai that's not unconsentual sex, rape, blackmail or bondage, etc. and understand why someone would want to preview these things before they buy them even if I don't agree with it. However, I also respect the company's right to enforce their copyright so I'm a little divided on this issue.We have a number of lighter hentai titles, such as G-Taste, F3, Mail Order Maiden, and so forth. I will tell you, though, that the demand is higher for the really nasty stuff.Edit: Though I am with the rest of you—I prefer hentai that features happy, horny, and enthusiastic characters, not abusers and their traumatized victims.

Edit 2: In the Web comic Ghastly's Ghastly Comic: Tentacle Monsters and the Women Who Love Them there is a baby tentacle monster, who tends to find sex toys and fetish gear and use them as toys, without knowing or understanding their intended purposes.

[grgspunk]

"The sky is the limit", as they say.

[certhas]

Edit: Though I am with the rest of you—I prefer hentai that features happy, horny, and enthusiastic characters, not abusers and their traumatized victims.

Well what should i say ? Im on the same wavelengh like you ? ;)
I also like it the most if the female char's enjoy the fun. Or even if the guy is the victim (just a lil bit. sometimes you get that scene: the guy thinks he has control but a bit later its just the other way round)
Maybe because i tend to be more a masochist than a sadist ? :P

certhas

[MAILMAN]

so have they stopped making hentais with the chaps from hell?

[Succubus]

O__o not really ~ I mean you can still determine reality from watching H ~ and those tentacle H are not so going to be real and those demon thinggies

[DocWatson]

ya do realize that lolicon hentai is offically illegal in the u.s./ i figure everyone should know this so the feds don't bust down your door and you think you did'nt do anything wrong only to find out OOPS it's illegal...jailtime:O
Citation, please? As of 2006 (http://animenation.net/news/search.php?query=lolicon&x=0&y=0), it (probably) wasn't.

[/B/eatles]

What you have to remember is that "Hentai" is made with the norms of a culture that has different sensibilities than Western or primarily American-Western Culture. What we might find extreme here is quite acceptable there . . . .

this is entirely true, but i have to say, no matter how you look at it, its still pretty out there, and probably hitting a smaller target audience. and as for it being banned, nothing against the people who watch it, but we have to hope their crowd doesnt get much larger or else the kind of attention that brings bans may get drawn to it. while i may not agree with this hentai, i certainly sympathize with how they'd feel as fans of something so extreme. i go through the same every day thanks to my tastes in music. and no, i'm not talking about metal. but what it comes down to is these smaller facets of fandom subcultures are actually a fair bit more complex than they seem.

[Victo513orcd]

If you are talking about Hentai, well, no longer. Most Japanese H releases feature the same kind of story : young girls being raped and sexually dominated. More and more scat, violence, hard SM, like in Requiem or Nightsfhit Nurses, and less and less stories were girls are in control of their sexuality.

If you look backward in time at classics like Cream Lemon or Cool Devices, they were way more diverse that what we have nowaday.

Now if there a market for that kind of extreme hentai ? I would say yes, alas. Market and demand, as someone previously remarked.

The more Anime Hentai made from Japan the merrier.
It's not about girls anymore. It's also boys too.
Yaoi, Yuri And now Hentai gone too far adding Shotacon and Lolicon.
Japanese seriously? Kuso. More Anime Etchi.

[HensTieRack]

this is entirely true, but i have to say, no matter how you look at it, its still pretty out there, and probably hitting a smaller target audience. and as for it being banned, nothing against the people who watch it, but we have to hope their crowd doesnt get much larger or else the kind of attention that brings bans may get drawn to it. while i may not agree with this hentai, i certainly sympathize with how they'd feel as fans of something so extreme. i go through the same every day thanks to my tastes in music. and no, i'm not talking about metal. but what it comes down to is these smaller facets of fandom subcultures are actually a fair bit more complex than they seem.

I feel your pain I doubt that the form of H media which I do not care for, will get any more fans than they have now. it's a verry small subgroup

[waltsoph3]

Is hentai TOO EXTREME!?! Gee uhm..i don't think that pretty much describes it all.lol

Hey this is Hentai anything goes.lol

In any kind of story..sometimes you gotta find way to draw out a characters personality to sell the story. Without certain sex scenes it can really downplay the importance for later on in the show. As an artist and anime fan i do try to read more then just between the lines. lol Kindda of the take the good with the bad scenerio.

But ofcourse everyone has there limits and taste right. I personaly though don't like rape, characters that defently don't look like adult age and other real disgusting things not normly ment for sex scenes. The tenticles i don't mind at all but its the other things if you know what im talking about.