Official Evangelion Live Action Series Thread Cont. 2

[Shinji_Ikari]

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[Samurai Drifter]

*falls out of chair laughing*

[Shinji_Ikari]

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[Leader Desslock]

I downloaded it yesterday. The high-quality version link didn't work, so I was waiting to post a thread. If you want my comments:

1) It's not a 'trailer'. A trailer, as I pointed out in the other thread, is a carefully scripted storyboard that compresses the attractive points of a story into a ~minute long clip. What you have is a clip that combines a model test, a tiny amount of model animation (the door), a POV test and a test to determine whether you can add a sound track. All minimally successful, but not a trailer at all.

2) Nothing in your clip demonstrates your ability to combine live action with CG. As I said in the other thread, a person in street clothes walking in front of a window with a CG landscape outside would accomplish this (or anything containing similar elements). Once again I'll ask: what have you done to prove this concept? Please post that test.

3) The clip ends with someone (I assume you) badly voicing Shinji over an animation clip from the show. You had originally said you were using no animation from the show. Once again, you have blatantly lied.

4) The moment GAINAX sees their name/logo in that clip, you will be sued. Ask your legal friend why. Not that he'll know, but at least it'll give him something to do since you clearly haven't consulted him in a while.

5) I notice that Eva Rosen's name has mysteriously disappeared from any and all writing credits. Interesting how fast you dropped that hot potato once the lie was discovered, innit?

That's all I have to say. Bravo. You've demonstrated the ability to stick other peoples' models into video. You haven't demonstrated the ability to pull off this project at all. I'm not being negative, that's an objective evaluation.

Also - please don't use my name as a claimed inspiration source if you're not going to do what I request. I requested that you demonstrate that this wasn't a hoax. You haven't done that. I requested that you show the other forms of test to indicate that you know how to combine CG and live action (the Captain Picard example in the previous thread) - you haven't done that. You haven't done a lot of things you'd have to have done if this was legit.

Now - before THIS thread turns into a 30+ page long flame fest with no purpose, why don't you just go away and do what we all asked you to do in the previous thread? Repeatedly. Incessantly. There is no purpose served by you returning to AN as a punching bag until you're willing to put in some kind of effort on this project.

[Gray]

Wow Shinji, you stole those images from a spanish 3D design website. Two Gold creativity stars for not eving removing the link to thier website for you.

[Evil_Koala]

Well FMH, had he done that. It would have been plagerism. Which might I add is illegal. V_V

[Shinji_Ikari]

ahaha Oh desslock, desslock desslock. Please carefully read my posts on the site and any other places before you post. That is NOT the trailer and will not be a clip either. It is there for public veiwing but the Purpose of that clip was to point out a visual of the script I have thrown togather with my head 3D Artist which will help point out the events in which the trailer will take place. I am sorry avout the large version not working, I will get that back on in a little bit.

The forums are there to discuss anything you want.
The Clip You saw did not have anyones voice overs at all. The Shinji clip at the end is showing the exact scene that we are using and everymotion for the real trailer. The movie "Again" is not going to be using any of the original animation.

Thank You.
Joshua Pelkala

[Gray]

ahaha Oh desslock, desslock desslock. Please carefully read my posts on the site and any other places before you post. That is NOT the trailer and will not be a clip either. It is there for public veiwing but the Purpose of that clip was to point out a visual of the script I have thrown togather with my head 3D Artist which will help point out the events in which the trailer will take place. I am sorry avout the large version not working, I will get that back on in a little bit.

The forums are there to discuss anything you want.
The Clip You saw did not have anyones voice overs at all. The Shinji clip at the end is showing the exact scene that we are using and everymotion for the real trailer. The movie "Again" is not going to be using any of the original animation.

Thank You.
Joshua Pelkala




We have the roughdraft for the tailer doene and It Shows what and where things will go and which events take place when. It is nothing compared to the full trailer. The music isthe right music but there are alot of things to be done.


Sorry, i believe you said trailor. Maybe you're just handicapped, like when you stole those pictures and said they were yours.

[Shinji_Ikari]

Wow Shinji, you stole those images from a spanish 3D design website. Two Gold creativity stars for not eving removing the link to thier website for you.
Ok There is no point in posting if you are not going to read my posts. the Spanish 3D site Like I have mentioned twice already has made the Evangelion and has added new texture and updated detail. The model is being sold to us "Again I am repeating myself which is irritating" for $500.00 USD.

Now please read my posts carefully before you look at pictures and say something stupid.

[Shinji_Ikari]

Sorry, i believe you said trailor. Maybe you're just handicapped, like when you stole those pictures and said they were yours.
I stole no pictures at all. Every one of those pictures you cannot find anywhere else. The only picture there that isn't ours is the CCBC.it/3D artists ppicture of the Evangelion. I am not repeating myself again but I find myself doing it once again.

The clip shown was not the Trailer. It was the "ROUGH DRAFT" of the trailer to show in placement in which objects of events will take place.

I am sorry you don' understand my English. I am American. If you are from a differnt country and cannot read my posts please let me know on the forums and I will translate for you.

[Shinji_Ikari]

No in fact I am laying down the pamflet. Show me the link to which you found these "Picturs on the other sites" and that will be your proof. Untill then stop whining.

[Gray]

No in fact I am laying down the pamflet. Show me the link to which you found these "Picturs on the other sites" and that will be your proof. Untill then stop whining.

Not a problem friend. http://www.ccbc.it/3d/cont/eva/eva.html

[Shinji_Ikari]

Oh my god you are hopeless.... Stop telling me that that ONE picture that I have already mentioned came from there more than 4 times... just forget it I am tired of explaining it to you.

Yes good work. THAT is the eva that is being sold to us from CCBC.it/3d You have brung it up alot. Its like I say hey this is called a car and then you would come up and say no your rong its a car! And thien I say Its a car I know I just said that and then you would restate it again yes and you found the car here!

I am glad that you like the model and you have taken the time to go and chekc out the site. I have given three links to it already like when I say "The eva model is from CCBC" and when I say that i mean that the EVA Picture model is from CCBC.it/3d Please read my posts.
Thank You.
Joshua Pelkala

[Leader Desslock]

ahaha Oh desslock, desslock desslock. Please carefully read my posts on the site and any other places before you post. That is NOT the trailer and will not be a clip either.
You utterly ignore 30+ pages of feedback and specific requests, and you have the nerve to tell someone on this forum to carefully read YOUR posts? I take it back, you've just shown your first directorial trait: blind arrogance.

From your site: Our 3D Artist (Not the CG Artists) has put togather a roughdraft of our trailer and it is perfect! You can download it here!

Okay. Let's assume that it's no longer a 'rough draft' - say the scene is fully flushed out. Let's assume it's 100% generated at full detail, it has an accompanying voice over and live action spliced in, the right score - the whole nine yards. Would it then be a trailer?

No.

I put that word in it's own paragraph hoping I might be able to keep your attention for the 24 bits it took to represent the truth.

Why is that the truth? Think back on the 30+ pages of feedback you received and maybe you'll find your answers. You ain't the only one who's tired of talking to a brick wall, kid.

"Oh, but Desslock - I totally know what's gonna happen here."

Fine. Prove it. Post your storyboards. Post your script for the trailer voice over. Post some kind of proof that this is a real project and that you've actually put some work into something other than a website.

Ah, but there's a good excuse, I'm sure. Absolutely. There's always an excuse WHY you haven't got any of the preparatory work you'd need to make this work. It couldn't POSSIBLY be expected that you'd have any of that stuff lying around. What am I thinking?

What is it you hope to accomplish by standing up to be the AN punching bag? Why would you stand up to be flamed until you at least have a tiny amount to show that this might not be a badly executed hoax? I don't get your motives, and I don't care about them. I simply wish you well in court, because I've run out of any sympathetic notions of you receiving any other fate.

[gameoffreak8]

Shinji, you can't pwn Leader Desslock. Just admit it, you can't win against Mighty Leader Desslock. Again, I don't care what you talk. Don't post here until you have enough proof...

[Nano]

Resistance is.........................annoying! He'll just destroy you!

[Samurai Drifter]

Oh my god you are hopeless....
I don't think FMH is the hopeless one here.

And you're American? Sad. There are Japanese people on this board that write English better than you do.

[Bernard_Monsha]

I am willing to tolerate Shinjis colorful exagerations so long as it remains civil so stop flameing FMH.


My MD Geist Ballet is ahaead of Scedule we have picked out Tutu's as MD Geist will be played by a woman (kinda like Peter Pan).

[Gray]

I am willing to tolerate Shinjis colorful exagerations so long as it remains civil so stop flameing FMH.

Flaming? All i was saying was how he stole those pics from some site.
And Shinji, you say you're buying those images? from a spanish site? who when i email will tell me they have no affilitaion with you, just like Eva-R?

[Bernard_Monsha]

Flaming? All i was saying was how he stole those pics from some site.


Ahem


Are you ****ing stupid?

Now for bonus points you can tell me why this is not acceptable.

[Caine]

Am I the only one who thinks Shinji should keep doing these so that we don't have to look for other things to laugh at?

[Samurai Drifter]

^No, my first thought upon seeing this thread was "this is a great day for AN."

[Gray]

Ahem




Now for bonus points you can tell me why this is not acceptable.

Oh alright fine.... grr.....flaming..... <_<

[CrossboneGundam]

I would pay to see M.D. Geist the ballet. Tchaikovsky, eat your heart out!

[The Million Dollar Prons]

So, if this italian site not only made the model for you, but at the very least is aware of your existance, you wouldn't mind if one of our Italian members emailed them and asked about this?

Edit: I sent them an email in the universal language of Pronsanese. I asume if they can talk to Shinji, they can talk to Prons.

[Tenou]

Can I just say: Lord lifting Jesus, Mary mother of God. Me bye, if you're going to give it another go, at least change you're tune.

Anyone know anything about this trailblazermissions.com (http://trailblazermissions.com)?

[Shinji_Ikari]

Yes you are correct Tenou.

If we are to go at this it is in a fun environment.
Yes, Go Ahead and email the 3D and CG artists at CCBC.it and they will tell you that they are selling us this model. I am working on the money and may have it in a week hopefully.
Leader Desslock. I have told you that I have a script for the trailer. Yes, I call it a trailer.
It is a clip promoting the movie and I am the director and called it a trailer.

If it is not a trailer than I am not sure what to call it.
A promotional clip mabey? You give me a name you think fits and I will change it.
As for showing you the script I didn't think it was a good idea as a director to be releasing all of that information to the public. I have shown you the rough draft mockup of the "Promotional Clip" and isnt' that enough for now?

I will be working with some more things tonight.
Thank You.
Stay Tuned./

[The Million Dollar Prons]

Technical preview would be the term me think.

[Gray]

Yes you are correct Tenou.

If we are to go at this it is in a fun environment.
Yes, Go Ahead and email the 3D and CG artists at CCBC.it and they will tell you that they are selling us this model. I am working on the money and may have it in a week hopefully.
Leader Desslock. I have told you that I have a script for the trailer. Yes, I call it a trailer.
It is a clip promoting the movie and I am the director and called it a trailer.

If it is not a trailer than I am not sure what to call it.
A promotional clip mabey? You give me a name you think fits and I will change it.
As for showing you the script I didn't think it was a good idea as a director to be releasing all of that information to the public. I have shown you the rough draft mockup of the "Promotional Clip" and isnt' that enough for now?

I will be working with some more things tonight.
Thank You.
Stay Tuned./


ahaha Oh desslock, desslock desslock. Please carefully read my posts on the site and any other places before you post. That is NOT the trailer and will not be a clip either. It is there for public veiwing but the Purpose of that clip was to point out a visual of the script I have thrown togather with my head 3D Artist which will help point out the events in which the trailer will take place. I am sorry avout the large version not working, I will get that back on in a little bit.

You just contradicted yourself. Are you really stupid? And i mean this as a serious question, are you? You told us EVA-R was working for you, i emailed them and they said they had nothing to do with you. Then you put on your wensite that ANIMENATION WAS WRITING THE SCRIPt. What the hell is that?

[Shinji_Ikari]

Off topic -ignoring.

So here I am I had a discussion with a fan about a week ago. here is the discussion to hold you over for a while.
strobelight_epileptic: Hey.
strobelight_epileptic: You Joshua Pelkala, bro?
strobelight_epileptic: Evangelion movie director?
josh_sg16: hello
josh_sg16: sorry i am back now
josh_sg16: Yes, I am Joshua Pelkala
josh_sg16: Hi, who are you?
strobelight_epileptic: I'm Carl.
strobelight_epileptic: I can't give you a username, but I often surf the EVA live action movie forums. I'm a bit of a lurker, haha. =P
strobelight_epileptic: I can't remember if I registered at one point because I never used it, if ever.
josh_sg16: ok
josh_sg16: So you go around and post in the Eva Live ACtion forums?
josh_sg16: Is that at Trivial Being?
strobelight_epileptic: I don't post. I lurk, remember? :p
strobelight_epileptic: Yeah.
strobelight_epileptic: FofR's site, bro.
josh_sg16: Ok that is cool.
josh_sg16: Well, since your a fan, I will let you see a picture of the evangelion. Its not finished but this is a pic of what it looked like 2 weeks ago. It is getting new textures now.
strobelight_epileptic: Anyway, how's the project going, man?
strobelight_epileptic: Oh, really? Sweet.
josh_sg16: There is a chance you have already seen this picture. It has been provided by ccbc.it/3d (Our Eva Modeler)
josh_sg16: ok
josh_sg16: here is the link, sorry for the wait
josh_sg16: http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/3313/fullimg2yv.jpg
josh_sg16: I love the choice in avatar
josh_sg16: Chuck Noris fan?
strobelight_epileptic: Chuck Norris made me do it.
josh_sg16: Ha.
strobelight_epileptic: 'cause I phear the roundhouse kick, bro.
strobelight_epileptic: I mean, he could be all the way in Alaska.
strobelight_epileptic: And it'd still be enough to incapacitate ten men.
strobelight_epileptic: =P
strobelight_epileptic: That, is one sweet-lookin' EVA.
strobelight_epileptic: You sure you didn't cop that from Weta Workshop? That thing is sweeet.
josh_sg16: hahaWeta Workshop hasnt even started on a model yet.
strobelight_epileptic: I know.
strobelight_epileptic: =P
josh_sg16: No this is made from Weta :P
strobelight_epileptic: So anyway, when do you plan to start filming?
strobelight_epileptic: as in the actual movie, bro.
josh_sg16: well we have to get our camera's in and then we can start shooting some quick scenes and do a few "behind the scenes' Shots for fans and post them on the site but this shouldnt be too much longer.
josh_sg16: Our budget is going to skyrocket next week. now that I am working.
strobelight_epileptic: How old are you, man?
josh_sg16: I am 17.
josh_sg16: Most of the crew are teenagers.
strobelight_epileptic: so you'll get a teenager to play Gendo and Fuyutsuki? :o
josh_sg16: no apsolutely not
josh_sg16: Gendou and Fuyutsuki are a must-Relate Character, they HAVE to look exactly as they do on the show. The basis of Gendous character is a strict mean man/ father
josh_sg16: I can show you a picture of Gendous Actor if you want but Gendous Actor is working on finding a way to make the trip up here for the shoot.
josh_sg16: he is around 35 yrs old and he is almost perfect for the part.
strobelight_epileptic: You're still going to name a Caucasian man Gendou?
josh_sg16: yes
strobelight_epileptic: Because I was wondering, with such cultural differences, how is that going to make sense?
strobelight_epileptic: I'm an Asian guy, man. We're selfish with our names here. :))
strobelight_epileptic: We like to steal western names but when it comes to ours, sorry, Akane's a Japanese name and it'll stay that way, haha.
strobelight_epileptic: Anyway, go on. Just playin', man.
josh_sg16: There is where we fell into problems. In the movie the characters are from the UN and Gendou is a world traveling person. Yes, there parents may be looking american but the culture will still resemble Japan although Tokyo 3 will be american.
strobelight_epileptic: I was wondering why you didn't consider making an adaptation for American actors, because it seems that some may find difficulty relating to Japanese actors played by Americans.
josh_sg16: Throughout the Movie you will definatly see Japanese running around but mostly as a mix. I am trying to make sure that no one looks TOO american or TOO japanese because the more plain anime they look the better
strobelight_epileptic: Furthermore, regardless of culture, the different aspects of each character can still be explored, like Shinji's introvertedness or Aska's hostility.
josh_sg16: An addaption?
strobelight_epileptic: *Asuka
strobelight_epileptic: Like, tell the story in a way that would make cultural sense in terms of its audience and personnel. I was just wondering why you went for pretty much a straight translation from the animated media to live-action.
strobelight_epileptic: I ask out of curiosity, bro.
strobelight_epileptic: That's what I meant by adaptation.
josh_sg16: Yep, GAINAX in Neon Genesis Evangelion completly changed the origanal story of evangelion for the american version of the anime. They have added American talking and actions into it. I want to keep the Origanal Japanese Version but use the Funny interaction and talking with the origanal expression and depth of the Japanese version.
strobelight_epileptic: How'd they change the story?
strobelight_epileptic: I presume more than just "little details".
josh_sg16: They added some different scenes and speech was expressed in a different manner, while in the Japanese version speech was more serious and emotional. The difference is that the American version of speech and communication between the characters was more on an entertainment (Funny) Basis.
strobelight_epileptic: dubbing does have its problems.
strobelight_epileptic: Anyway, let's move from that.
strobelight_epileptic: Who's playing Shinji Ikari?
josh_sg16: Some of the scenes included this - Japanese next to end of series (Shinji and karou were talking in there beds.) In the american version (Shinji and Karou talked in there beds and then Shinji wason top of karou.)
strobelight_epileptic: So you want a homoerotic scene?
strobelight_epileptic: :p
josh_sg16: ok We were looking for some peope in the school and found 5 people. The most look alike couldnt stop laughing and was very immature, the second had some kind of problem and couldnt show up for 3 days and then we didnt hear from him.
strobelight_epileptic: So there's no actor for Shinji yet?
josh_sg16: The third was Interviewd and then tested on a couple of voice checks. Josh Barnard commented on his accent. The accent could be tweeked but his movements could not. He was never able to do it.
josh_sg16: The fourth was almost perfect.
strobelight_epileptic: You're not going to make the guy sound like Spike Spencer, are you?
strobelight_epileptic: Some seem kinda partial to that guy's voice.
josh_sg16: He looked half decent, spoke lines alright and was always availible but he looked at the script and he doesnt like showing emotions on screen, tha is a big part of it. Well we sat down with our crew and had a discussion.
josh_sg16: Jason comments and says "Dude we need to pick someone for sizes so hurry it up", Anythony regarded the same way but he looked at me and said "What do we do now?"
josh_sg16: I looked up one source Talent to make a meeting in Detroit but I was never able to make it and they had to individually email me. We found Misato trying out for Rei!
josh_sg16: Misato is way under our recommended age limit but she looks alot like misato.

[Shinji_Ikari]

josh_sg16: We found one three guys trying out for Ikari. they were all black. We had to pass.
josh_sg16: it.
josh_sg16: Barnard segusted this guy.
strobelight_epileptic: Hm.
strobelight_epileptic: You could cast someone like Toji to be black, or Hyuga.
strobelight_epileptic: But me personally, I'd prefer an Asian Rei.
josh_sg16: nah toji has to be white because his character is. We have a guy for toji already but not for hyuga
strobelight_epileptic: The fanboys will squirm in their pants.
josh_sg16: Shinji Ikari - http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/6276/finishcolor8lx.jpg
strobelight_epileptic: I like the way you photoshopped the bedsheets.
josh_sg16: Thanks.
strobelight_epileptic: And superimposed the Vash suit and glasses.
josh_sg16: yep'
josh_sg16: http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/8127/dcfc00208lj.jpg
strobelight_epileptic: That wouldn't be you would it?
strobelight_epileptic: just wondering.
josh_sg16: Exactly
strobelight_epileptic: So you'll be plaing Shinji, I see.
josh_sg16: You are now on the list of people that ask "Why?".
strobelight_epileptic: Enlighten me, bro.
josh_sg16: We are going to shoot the Trailer which will be featuring 2 scenes from the movie and One of them is this telephone booth
josh_sg16: http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/1976/image012ed.jpg\
josh_sg16: http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/1976/image012ed.jpg
josh_sg16: Once that is shot then the background can be fully shaded and lighting generated for use but after that we will know if it will work or not.
josh_sg16: FreePlayMusic.com has given us there music to use on the trailer but once it hits movie then we have to bump up the licecsing pay. That will go up becaue of the distributed diskets.
strobelight_epileptic: So why are you playing Shinji again?
josh_sg16: We haven't found anyone else yet.
strobelight_epileptic: Okay, so you'll play him for the pilot trailer? alright then.
strobelight_epileptic: Speaking of music, who do you plan to score the movie?
strobelight_epileptic: And what kind of soundtrack will you use?
josh_sg16: Yes. Once the Pilot trialer is released then it will be reviewed and we will have suport. If our fans like it then we will move on to the movie with it but if not we will reshoot 7 more scenes with different actors to get the feel going.
josh_sg16: The sound track took some discussing. It must be instrumental.
josh_sg16: The origanal Evangelin songs fit perfectly but they have to be remade into new music. The Cruel Angel Thesis" I am thinking" should be Rock.
strobelight_epileptic: Ahh, like what kind of rock?
strobelight_epileptic: Being a rock musician I'm curious about the soundtrack.
strobelight_epileptic: Especially for a movie such as Evangelion.
josh_sg16: Rock as in heavier drums and alot or guitar. One Base in the backround and a touch up synthesizer.
strobelight_epileptic: Ahh.
strobelight_epileptic: Hm, I think I have a song that might fit that.
strobelight_epileptic: It's instrumental though.
strobelight_epileptic: Wanna hear?
strobelight_epileptic: This is blatant self-advertising, but hell!=P
josh_sg16: Sure why not.
strobelight_epileptic: I recorded the guitars with a ****** multi-fx box, so it sounds kinda thin. Everything is direct though, all bass/guitar is done by me. The synths and drums were programmed.
strobelight_epileptic: How fast is your connection?
josh_sg16: fast? I have High Speed cable
strobelight_epileptic: Ahh. DSL here, buddy.
josh_sg16: ok cool
strobelight_epileptic: So this should go pretty fast. :)
josh_sg16: :D
josh_sg16: I have to work at 7:00 am and its 11:21 pm right now so I can't stay too much longer.
strobelight_epileptic: I'm working on a second song, inspired by Evangelion, but my guitar's tuning system got ****ed up.
josh_sg16: I can tlak for another 10-20 minutes but then I gotta get in bbed.
strobelight_epileptic: I tune down for these heavy songs.
strobelight_epileptic: Okay.
josh_sg16: So you made these yourself?
strobelight_epileptic: Yeah, man.
josh_sg16: Thats exellent.
strobelight_epileptic: I have recordings with a full band, but I don't think they'll be fitting for any movie project.
josh_sg16: can't wait to hear them.
strobelight_epileptic: I'm sending this because I think it might fit, though it wasn't written to be in any production, just as a piece of heavy symphonic music.
josh_sg16: ok
strobelight_epileptic: Ahh, by the way. Do you have pictures of the actors for Misato and Rei?
josh_sg16: Yes and No,Rei will be chosen on the spot when we need her, Misato remember is way under the age limit so Here is her pictures
strobelight_epileptic: How old is she?
strobelight_epileptic: you know she'll have to participate in a sex scene sooner or later. =\
josh_sg16: i think around 16-18
strobelight_epileptic: The fans would kill you otherwise.
strobelight_epileptic: :p
josh_sg16: Yep, thats when Wanda comes in with the makup
strobelight_epileptic: Who's Wanda?
strobelight_epileptic: Stunt double?
josh_sg16: Here are all the current actors
josh_sg16: no Wanda was a medafore for "Make Up people"
strobelight_epileptic: Ahhh.
strobelight_epileptic: Well, as long as there's no real sex going on.
strobelight_epileptic: Unless you're planning to have some fun with your actors. :))
josh_sg16: aha. no
josh_sg16: lol

[Shinji_Ikari]

josh_sg16: Shinji -
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/8690/picture298hy.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/3442/picture652na.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Gendou -
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/7881/gendou8lg.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/5286/hdsht8ix.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Leader Desslock]

Leader Desslock. I have told you that I have a script for the trailer. Yes, I call it a trailer.
It is a clip promoting the movie and I am the director and called it a trailer.

If it is not a trailer than I am not sure what to call it.
A promotional clip mabey? You give me a name you think fits and I will change it.
A theatrical trailer is like a synopsis of the film being previewed. It says, "this is what you can expect from this title." It's an audio/visual version of the text blurb you find on the back of a DVD case. It's a marketing tool, and as such, it is very cleverly crafted to tease a potential audience into seeing the finished work. It has to show enough to look interesting, but still leave enough to the imagination that it leaves the prospective viewer begging for more.

It's the theatrical equivalent of seductive lingerie, in that regard.

What do you have? A test. You have achieved Proof of Concept that you can do the following things:
1. Model a CG world of a given size (even though it's almost empty)
2. Position objects in that world
3. Move the "camera" POV in that world
4. Move small virtual objects in that world (the door, anyway)
5. Capture the above as "film"
6. Add an audio soundtrack to that "film"
7. Splice that CG "film" with outside footage. Note: you haven't shown that you can blend the two. You've only shown that at Frame #X, you can switch from your 100% CG world to the 100% outside footage.
8. Add text frames into the "film"

Remember in my last post in the other thread? Remember how I said that I could give you literally hundreds of tests that you should have performed prior to investing a dime in the project or a minute into the mental self-stimulation of a website? Yeah. Well those are 8 things you've just shown out of the several hundred. You've got a few more to go, ALL of which should've been done before now. Let's see 'em.

So now - let's put the shoe on the other foot for a minute. Why don't YOU tell US what you think that trailer shows us? What did you set out to show, how do you think it shows it, how someone watching it is supposed to know anything about your project, etc. You're the DIRECTOR, as you're fond of repeating, so why not dazzle us with your expertise? Now that you've posted a "trailer" that you've deemed "perfect", NOW why don't you use it to sell us on your project?

[Shinji_Ikari]

Gendou continued.
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/2264/albertp7fs.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Misato -
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/23/keelyhaley10am.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
[URL=http://imageshack.us][img]http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/5192/keelyhaley31di.jpg
josh_sg16: oops
josh_sg16: http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/8690/picture298hy.jpg
josh_sg16: http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/3442/picture652na.jpg

[Shinji_Ikari]

josh_sg16: http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/7881/gendou8lg.jpg
josh_sg16: http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/5286/hdsht8ix.jpg
josh_sg16: http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/23/keelyhaley10am.jpg
josh_sg16: http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/5192/keelyhaley31di.jpg
josh_sg16: http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/4434/90018kf.jpg
josh_sg16: there
josh_sg16: You can tell who is who

[Shinji_Ikari]

strobelight_epileptic: Hey man, I can tell you're sexy already. :op
strobelight_epileptic: No need for the topless shot. :))
strobelight_epileptic: The Gendou from the surface looks like he'd be a good actor.
strobelight_epileptic: The Keelyhaley's the Misato, right?
josh_sg16: lol
josh_sg16: yes
josh_sg16: I am back.
strobelight_epileptic: Sorry about that, disconnected.
strobelight_epileptic: Your actress for Misato definitely seems old enough.
josh_sg16: Oh really?
josh_sg16: I was afraid she wouldnt be
josh_sg16: I had an interview infront of her mother
strobelight_epileptic: Bro, where I come from, that's definitely lookin' old enough. :)
strobelight_epileptic: :))
josh_sg16: LEts just say, her mother had alot of questions.
josh_sg16: lol
strobelight_epileptic: Like what?
josh_sg16: and she aproved
strobelight_epileptic: Dude, just to give you some perspective...my girlfriend is probably older than she is and looks way younger. :p being asian rules.
josh_sg16: like where when how who and what happens next, and contact, and she wants to be on stage during the shoot.
josh_sg16: really?
josh_sg16: lol
josh_sg16: Thats great
strobelight_epileptic: hehe.
strobelight_epileptic: Did you tell her about the sex scene with Kaji?
strobelight_epileptic: :p
strobelight_epileptic: Or rather...
josh_sg16: oh
strobelight_epileptic: Are you going to include the mind**** sequences that happen in epis 23-24?
josh_sg16: ha thats not in the Japanese version
strobelight_epileptic: Really?
josh_sg16: apsolutely not the end has to change. I dont even like the idea of the mind **** they have put on it. the story needs it at the end but not such a long one.
strobelight_epileptic: Where'd the animation come from then?
strobelight_epileptic: (well, it was sparsely animated anyway)
strobelight_epileptic: So it's believable, just to provide fanservice.
josh_sg16: The Anican version is different than the Japanese version. The Japanese version is how the story was suoppose to be told.
josh_sg16: ha
josh_sg16: whats belivable?
strobelight_epileptic: That they added a scene?
josh_sg16: yeah
josh_sg16: for American culture
josh_sg16: they added aot of scenes
josh_sg16: i havent seen the full american version yet
josh_sg16: i am set on the first episode at the moment cause thats what we are shooting but
josh_sg16: i g2g now
strobelight_epileptic: Okay.
strobelight_epileptic: I'll drop that file in your email, if ever. If it's alright.
josh_sg16: yeah of corse
josh_sg16: oh hey what do ya know
josh_sg16: lol
strobelight_epileptic: what is it?
josh_sg16: im listening to your music
josh_sg16: ok woah
strobelight_epileptic: It finished?
josh_sg16: did you find this or make it yourself?
strobelight_epileptic: I made it myself man.
josh_sg16: seriously?
josh_sg16: This is so exellent
strobelight_epileptic: The guitars are kinda thin though.
strobelight_epileptic: Thanks, bro.
strobelight_epileptic: I'm no piano player, so the keyboards and **** were done with a piano roll.
josh_sg16: Wow. This is some of the best music I have heard from someone that made it. The bands trying oiut for the movie were good but this is really the ****.
strobelight_epileptic: Thanks, bro.
strobelight_epileptic: There were other bands trying out?
josh_sg16: yes
josh_sg16: School bands
josh_sg16: I have to give them the tabs for cruel Angel Thesis and some others nthis monday
strobelight_epileptic: Ahh. How do you plan to record them for the movie?
strobelight_epileptic: I sure hope you've got a budget for the studio.
strobelight_epileptic: Home recording rocks. XD
josh_sg16: ok im back
josh_sg16: brother had to change in the room.
josh_sg16: ok
strobelight_epileptic: Thing is, if you wanna record a whole band, you gotta pay for some studio time to make it sound good. Shame if you have something recorded with a mic against that damn cool EVA unit.
josh_sg16: I will have the songs imported. The bands will play there music and record for us.
josh_sg16: oh
josh_sg16: yeah that is true
josh_sg16: the way I have figured is a 4 mic set up in a closed room with 2 large buffer mics
josh_sg16: I have 3 mics right now and once big recording buffer sony mic - $40
josh_sg16: lol
josh_sg16: that might work
josh_sg16: yeah studio time cost alot
strobelight_epileptic: Well, you can see about that. I'm just saying home recording can be troublesome.
josh_sg16: but when it comes down to it then yeah I geuse we would definatly have to move to the studio recording
josh_sg16: yeah
josh_sg16: Ill' take your word on that :P
josh_sg16: ./
josh_sg16: By the way this music is great
josh_sg16: iv'e listen to it 3 times
strobelight_epileptic: Heh, thanks man.
josh_sg16: No thank you, I got a cool mp3 on my pc now. All to myself haha. Don't worry I won't do anything with it without permission
josh_sg16: ok Chuck Norris I gotta go.
strobelight_epileptic: Aight. I'll see ya later man.
josh_sg16: See you later!


End Of Convorsation. One More Good Fan.

[Leader Desslock]

Okay, so the chat log just shows that you're trying to pull the wool over the eyes of a bunch of other people, as well as us. I don't see the relevance...

As quite a lot of us have said quite a large number of times, we have full confidence that a live action Evangelion movie CAN be done. Just not by you. You haven't even shown us evidence that you're really doing it. Just TALKING about it. Oh - and for a while there, collecting money. I'd tend to bet that you still are, you're just hiding it better.

As I did try to point out in my last post in the previous thread, NONE OF THIS STUFF MATTERS if you haven't done the testing to prove you can pull it all together.

Where are those test results?

[Bernard_Monsha]

josh_sg16: Barnard segusted this guy.

I did no such thing.

[Shinji_Ikari]

Alright I have to run to the store but when I get back I am going to watch a movie and then Ill' reply to Desslock but right after I have to get to work.

[Leader Desslock]

I did no such thing.
I think he's talking about Joshua Barnard, his sound guy. ^_^

[Shinji_Ikari]

I did no such thing.
Sorry Bernard, didnt think there were that many bernards out there lol. Here, this is the barnard I am talkign about. Josh Barnard
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/8803/dcfc0018joshs0sc.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Ill be back.

[Bernard_Monsha]

I think he's talking about Joshua Barnard, his sound guy. ^_^

I think Joshua Barnard is an amalgam name between Josh and me. He picked 2 red names he saw on the forum. I am betting one of his people will be called Dez or Des ;).

[Sendo Takeshi]

josh_sg16: Shinji -

http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/3442/picture652na.jpg (http://imageshack.us)





:lol:


Was the topless photo necessary? This thread delivers once again.

Although, that CG model of the EVA 01 on the first page did look cool.

[Haro!]

Why'd you put the picture in your post Deathscythe why? Do you want to make me go blind?
"being asian rules" that made my day on so many levels...
Anyway so, you're getting the music to something that you're not sure can even be made yet? No wait that's not the issue. You're going to steal someone's music?

[The Million Dollar Prons]

Oh my god I thought this was a wholesome eva movie thread but I load it up and all I see is pictures of MEN and dirty AIM logs!!

[Rain]

Why'd you put the picture in your post Deathscythe why? Do you want to make me go blind?
"being asian rules" that made my day on so many levels...
Anyway so, you're getting the music to something that you're not sure can even be made yet? No wait that's not the issue. You're going to steal someone's music?

I think that strobelight guy would let him use it... since he willingly sent it to him. I donno at what price though.

Oh and thanks for that topless shot Shinji, really, thanks dude.

...

[Oburi]

In terms of humor this thread wins. :P

[Haro!]

Can he top the pic? I'm kind of curious how he out does himself next.

I think that strobelight guy would let him use it... since he willingly sent it to him. I donno at what price though.


Oh I meant the Freeplaymusic.com thing he mentioned. Not to mention the possibility he's probably conning the guy into giving him music. Or trying to get us to believe him. If it is the latter, he sure must spend alot of time coming up with ways to keep this thing going.

[kiyomi]

Okay..I've just about had enough of this guy....

I'm full-blooded Japanese and I detest..absolutly DE-FRICKEN-TEST people who CLAIM that they can actually make or even ATTEMPT to make a JAPANESE anime in to live action on a friggin budget that resembles a prune stock!!

My people have gone thru two..count them..TWO fricken huge a$$ NUCLEAR BOMBS...survived..pull themselves out of the ashes like a phoenix rising..and came back to kick butt on animation as it is today..

And you have the unmittigating GALL to THINK you can pull off this wonderful animation with what you have..in the middle of a corn field in timbuktoo???!!!

Here comes the frying pan......

*SLAMS IT UPSIDE THE HEAD OF THE BAKA GAIJIN!!!!!!!!!!!!*

And the monkey flips the switch..............

[GreatNekoKoneko]

... thanks for resurrecting this thread. i was looking for a good laugh.

... off-topic: ^props to kiyomichan, to quote, "pull themselves from the ashes like a phoenix rising..." Wow. Banzai Nipponjin.

[Nano]

This thread is basically Shinji saying something and Desslock shooting him down.

Good for a laugh.

[Leader Desslock]

I'll elaborate for a second. The previous thread(s) consisted of Shinji_Ikari trying to perpetrate a hoax about a live action Evangelion film. Several of us got tired of hearing about this hoax, so we took it upon ourselves to ask him lots of the questions to which he should have a ready answer IF it's a real project. He should have all sorts of preparatory work done IF it's a real project, and we asked to see it. All we got in response was a series of excuses and evasions. The kid's done no real work on the project, outright lied on a number of very specific points, and it's the group concensus that it's a hoax. So we like to keep asking those questions. It's not that we like turning the knife in the wound, it's that he won't let us let GO of the knife while he writhes around on it, really.

As such, it's not a chat thread nor a flame thread, and it'll be useful if we all remember that. Technically all chat threads are supposed to be in PB&G, so if we could limit this thread to Shinji's outrageous claims and the subsequent debunkings, that'd be best. Thanks.

[HitokiriShadow]

I was worried Shinji had left us when I didn't see any activity in his thread for a few days.

"Misato" is kind of cute, but I really didn't need to see all those guys, especially topless ones. But please, Shinji, just use links and don't post them as images. It's a b*tch to load when I'm getting a poor signal and it's going to be even worse for a 56ker.

[GreatNekoKoneko]

... more pics please...the easier it is for my minions in Davison to spot them... remember...the shadow sees all...

[Jon]

What's the link to his site again? He didn't list it in this thread.

[Shinji_Ikari]

I'll elaborate for a second. The previous thread(s) consisted of Shinji_Ikari trying to perpetrate a hoax about a live action Evangelion film. Several of us got tired of hearing about this hoax, so we took it upon ourselves to ask him lots of the questions to which he should have a ready answer IF it's a real project. He should have all sorts of preparatory work done IF it's a real project, and we asked to see it. All we got in response was a series of excuses and evasions. The kid's done no real work on the project, outright lied on a number of very specific points, and it's the group concensus that it's a hoax. So we like to keep asking those questions. It's not that we like turning the knife in the wound, it's that he won't let us let GO of the knife while he writhes around on it, really.

As such, it's not a chat thread nor a flame thread, and it'll be useful if we all remember that. Technically all chat threads are supposed to be in PB&G, so if we could limit this thread to Shinji's outrageous claims and the subsequent debunkings, that'd be best. Thanks.
Yes, Listen to Desslock. He knows what he is talking about on tbehalf of the public.

As far as you kiyomichan, Ill have a talk with you later. You can read my message, flame me or the project or just delete it but I dont want to hear any political campiegns going on. The Japanese are way better than the American Pigs when it comes to culture. (No Offence) This is common knowledge.

HitokiriShadow,
I am sorry for uploading those images instead of using direct links. Sorry about for your long loading times.

Jonn,
evathemovie.com

[Soluzar]

Now for bonus points you can tell me why this is not acceptable.

This entire thread is not acceptable.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

This entire thread is not acceptable.

This whole damn court is out of order!

By the way, I'm stealing your avatar

[Soluzar]

This whole damn court is out of order!
XD!

By the way, I'm stealing your avatar
No problem. Levon made it, anyone can use it. Why, exactly?

I'll elaborate for a second. The previous thread(s) consisted of Shinji_Ikari trying to perpetrate a hoax about a live action Evangelion film.

I don't think that it is in any way a hoax. I think that Shinji_Ikari's reach simply exceeds his grasp by some considerable distance. A distance, I might add, that can only be measured in parsecs, without yielding a 6-digit number..
strobelight_epileptic: Are you going to include the mind**** sequences that happen in epis 23-24?
josh_sg16: ha thats not in the Japanese version
strobelight_epileptic: Really?
The f**k?

:lol:

[Shinji_Ikari]

Hey guys new pictured'.
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/3376/dcfc00051qa.jpg
''

[Gray]

Originally Posted by Ikari no Baka's Chat Log
strobelight_epileptic: Are you going to include the mind**** sequences that happen in epis 23-24?
josh_sg16: ha thats not in the Japanese version
strobelight_epileptic: Really?

ROFL!!!! You guys must be EXPERTS on the Evangelion subject. Yup, your are DEFINATLY the right man to make an evangelion movie.

[Leader Desslock]

Hey guys new pictured'.
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/3376/dcfc00051qa.jpg
''
The part of Pen-Pen will be played by a yellow fire hydrant...

I think that Shinji_Ikari's reach simply exceeds his grasp by some considerable distance. A distance, I might add, that can only be measured in parsecs, without yielding a 6-digit number..
:lol:

[Bernard_Monsha]

The part of Pen-Pen will be played by a yellow fire hydrant...


:lol:


I think it is good to know that frumpy goth chicks will be in movie. Shinji is keeping it real.

[Shinji_Ikari]

I ahev nothing better to do than post pictures right now. I am waiting for someone to get back with me.
http://img454.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dcfn00301op.jpg

[The Million Dollar Prons]

Well, his left cheek does not look like Shinji's left cheek. I say wait for a more accurate left cheek

[Shinji_Ikari]

More Pictures for ya.
http://img450.imageshack.us/img450/4825/dcfn00188sn.jpg
http://img450.imageshack.us/img450/9461/dcfn00118xp.jpg
http://img466.imageshack.us/img466/8696/dcfn00306ko.jpg

I swear Japan is beutifull but where I live it kinda makes up for it somtimes.
http://img351.imageshack.us/img351/3359/dcfn00316cj.jpg

[Bernard_Monsha]

actually thats greenscreened.
Couldnt you tell? Its really ****** but it works./




http://img454.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dcfn00301op.jpg


Is this green screened too?

[The Million Dollar Prons]

You should make a live action Naruto instead. Just get some clear wire, some props (You can probably by a pack of toy throwing stars), and some flak jackets.

No special effects needed at all.

By the way, we should have Girls Gone Wild: Davison Michigan Edition

[Haro!]

I think it is good to know that frumpy goth chicks will be in movie. Shinji is keeping it real.

Wow that line just made my day, and quite possibly the thread.

I don't think your location would really work for the movie though Shinji. That one picture didn't impress me. (Not to sound like I'm hating on where you live or anything). Also if I'm not mistaken, doesn't Eva have a lot of scenes in urban environments? (I haven't seen it since back when it was only available on bootlegs in chinatown so my memory is a little not 100%).

[The Million Dollar Prons]

Speaking of, when did this evolve from a movie to a series?

P.S. I am now the music consultant, as such, I am going to help Shinji_Ikari make the best rock opera ever!

[Leader Desslock]

^ According to what he wrote in the other thread, he'll make the first episode, and then the fans will shower him with accolades until he agrees to make the rest of the series.

Gee, Shinji - you're bored and have nothing to do? Would you like us to start listing the hundreds of tests you could do to make sure that you actually have the technical expertise to pull this off? Because we certainly can find plenty of things for you to do that you evidently haven't done - oh! Wait! That's right - we've already told you some of those things. That's right, I keep forgetting.

Those results are where?

I mean - okay. You don't have the models, so you can't do full CG fight scenes yet. But have you ever even taken stick figures and, you know, made them walk believably? Why, I'll bet a person with your talent and equipment can whip out a stick-figure-esque model in no time and have them walk through a city of nondescript boxes, just to make sure you've got the concept of believable bipedal locomotion down pat, right? Of course! I mean, you'd OBVIOUSLY want to do that before you pay for a model that's going to be far more difficult to move around. I mean, the human eye is hard to convince when it comes to natural movements (as any beginning animator knows) so I'm sure you've done this already. Silly me.

You, um, HAVE done this test already, right Shinji?

<crickets chirp>

Well?

[Shinji_Ikari]

hahaha. No we are not filming anythign around here. We are only doing greenscreen with some heavey lighting work. It took us 9 hours just to set up one practice scene.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

So who's cateing this movie?

Every good movie has a catering service, ya know, for an on set buffet. ;)

[Haro!]

By the way, we should have Girls Gone Wild: Davison Michigan Edition

What with that broad in the background of the pic he posted? :x

[GreatNekoKoneko]

... those pics... all from Myspace... he even got the "Myspace Angle" right - which is the way gothgirls/emoboys take their pics. but the hachimaki. god. that was uncalled for...

...im with Desslock on this one...where are your stickmen?

[The Million Dollar Prons]

What with that broad in the background of the pic he posted? :x

There was a broad?

[GreatNekoKoneko]

....^frumpy goth chick...as quoted by someone before...

[sailornyanko]

So how are you going to make the Eva capsule? Obviously you can't CGI the whole seat and controls.

I'm also curious how you're going to make the plug suits. You're gonna have to visit kinky rubber stores and order "special" suits.

[GreatNekoKoneko]

...^i think he does have someone who'll make the suits...for a whopping $1500. but that's nothing, ne, Shinji-kun? that's chump-change....

[Shinji_Ikari]

There are no stickmen. The version of the trailer is being produced and that is what you are all waiting for and which should prove as eyecandy for the main movie.

[Leader Desslock]

I think these are the folks doing his suits: http://www.limebarbcosplay.com/index.html

here are no stickmen. The version of the trailer is being produced and that is what you are all waiting for.
No, we're waiting for all sorts of things. You're the one that keeps telling us we're waiting for the trailer. We've repeatedly told you that the trailer is irrelevant. I mean, you do realize that a movie trailer is made AFTER filming is complete, right? You know that?

In the case of stickmen, all I'm saying is that of course you'd have tried to animate a simple model realistically PRIOR to paying several hundred dollars for a very complex and stylistic model you don't even know whether you'll be able to use. Where are the results of those animation tests?

[Shinji_Ikari]

Ok I see what you mean. We are still working on them.

[Haro!]

Sigh at this point I'd be satisfied if he'd atleast be able to make his own Eva AMV....

So how are you going to make the Eva capsule? Obviously you can't CGI the whole seat and controls.

I'm also curious how you're going to make the plug suits. You're gonna have to visit kinky rubber stores and order "special" suits.

I'd pay Shinji for the suit if he got you to wear it.. kinky rubber ^_^

[sailornyanko]

Hahaha, I could pull off as a credible Asuka.. at least physically. I'd just need to have longer hair and paint it red. But for the rest physically I do look a heck a lot like her. 21 years old and I still have the body of a 14 year old. Hahaha.

[Leader Desslock]

Ok I see what you mean. We are still working on them.
So you haven't personally animated a simple walking figure in whatever CG program you're going to use? Not yet? Is this just another "trust me, I'll figure it out" thing?

Have your hands actually touched a keyboard and mouse on this project for anything other than putting up the (fake) website? Have you done anything? If so, what?

[Shinji_Ikari]

Ok you know what? ill just show you a half assed piece of our earlier works.

[Leader Desslock]

You mean like we've been asking you to do for... counting the other threads... 40-45 pages now? IMAGINE THAT! Light finally dawns on Marblehead!

Now! While the light of comprehension is still shining, think - if you post something, make sure it meets the criteria we've repeatedly requested. otherwise, it'll be one more useless pile of data.

[Shinji_Ikari]

Yep, its just a piece of data again. Unfishished.

[Leader Desslock]

Agh! Just when I thought you had an epiphany... I knew there had to be an excuse.

Did we ever ASK for finished product? No. We asked for tests. Proof Of Concept Tests. Proof that you can do all of the technical tasks that will be required in the finished product. We aren't asking for the finished product, just for a demonstration of all the concepts that will be required. You know, all of the things that you would have to prove to yourself and others before anyone put a single dime into this project, yourself included.

I could ask you a hundred relevant questions, but thus far you haven't even been able to understand what I've been asking, much less been willing to answer me directly. So I'll go back to my earlier question:

Have your hands touched a keyboard and mouse on this project for anything other than putting up a (fake) website? If so, FOR WHAT?! *

* If self-gratification over your casting choice for Misato was involved, please do NOT answer this question. Forget I asked.

[Rain]

Yep, its just a piece of data again. Unfishished.

Hey, can I (we) see it? I don't care if it's unfinished... at least it's something, right?

And no, I don't wanna see more pics of you or whoever, I wanna see results to maybe prove that you are even capable of comprehending everything that has been asked of you for the past... like, 40 pages of posts.

That'd be appreciated.

[Shinji_Ikari]

These two people include me, and my brother,. Its unfinished because the audio has been stripped. Enjoy the bad graphic animations. uhg...
Sorry wait a few minutes for it to upload its a big file - 29.4mb
Big for slow connections.

[Rain]

@Shinji_Ikari

I don't see any bad graphic animations? Uhm, the word 'unfinished' means that you've started something but haven't finished/completed it right? If you've started, that means there has to be SOMETHING, not nothing. So where is this piece of unfinished "data"? o.o

[Leader Desslock]

Proof of Concept don't gotta be pretty; it just has to work. You should see some of the software prototypes I've built.

[master terrence]

your going to hook me up with a free ticket right...

[Shinji_Ikari]

A free ticket to what? 13 minutes left.

[master terrence]

free ticket for the movie... or somethnig like that, maybe a bootleg DVD or soemthnig :P

[Shinji_Ikari]

Its ready click here to download.
http://www.trailblazermissions.com/pics/evathemovie/Anime Fan Cast Productions-Kitchen Video.avi

[Leader Desslock]

Yes! SEE? Was that so hard? Finally, we have some idea of your level of technical expertise! Bloody HELL, man. Why did this take so long? This is WORLDS better than that sad little smudge effect you did earlier.

Constructive Feedback I Can Now Give You:

1) Your effects have no depth in your world. When you cough out the little fireball, the efect appears IN FRONT of your hand, rather than behind it. If you can't place that effect behind your hand, you will not be able to effectively do a mixed CG / live action scene. That is important to know. But at least you have a start, and you know what to work on.

2) Your effects aren't part of your world in any other way, either. The light from the fireballs does light up nearby objects (your hands, wrists, and face, for example) nor do they create shadows for the objects in the room. The flittering leaves/butterflies thing didn't appear to interact with the real world at all - they didn't land on the table, nor did they appear to be affected by air currents. When the lamp got scorched, the laser didn't make anything glow (even thought the light was scattered enough for us to see the beam), and the smoke didn't affect the atmosphere in the shot. Your hands reflect on the table finish, but none of the effects do. Stuff like that.

3) Not a big deal, but the flitting leaves thing looked like it was at a better resolution than the film itself. Your effects / CG stuff has to match the live action, or it won't work. Just a note. I could tell you more if I saw a full resolution shot.

I'd like to see the same thing with sound, if you can find that version. I could give you feedback on your audio work. I'm willing to bet you haven't worked the sound into the room space, either. It can be done, but if you did the sound the same way you did the image effects, you might not have thought about it.

Still - successful tests of many concepts. Kudos!

[Chikyuu Senshi]

Its ready click here to download.
http://www.trailblazermissions.com/pics/evathemovie/Anime Fan Cast Productions-Kitchen Video.avi
.....It looks like you filmed it on a cheap digital camera. I hope if you're making a whole movie, you can format it better.

[Leader Desslock]

Here's an example of what I'm talking about from one of my all-time favorite films, Big Trouble In Little China. If you haven't seen it, you should. Not only is it a great film, but it shows what you can do with a very, very small budget.

In this clip, Egg Shen is demonstrating some Chinese Sorcery:

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i91/AlycWafiago/EggSorcery.jpg

Notice that the blue light from the sparks is lighting up the surrounding objects. It's not PERFECT, though - the extra light is coming from behind the camera and to the left, but that misses the cup of Egg's right palm (frame left), which is in shadow. If the continuity editor had picked up on it, they'd have reflected some of the blue light from a mirror on the right into his palm to make up for it. Then it would've matched the flickering from the main light being shone in his face.

Still - the effect is a PART of the scene, rather than just a superimposed drawing. You'll need this level of ability to place actors on a virtual stage, or else you won't be able to get your lighting right, their positions and shadows right - none of it. They'll be superimposed on a graphic, rather than part of a CG scene.

Do yourself another favor and rent the movie Sky Captain And The World Of Tomorrow. The movie is fun, but watch the extra features on the disc, specifically the Making of Sky Captain stuff and his original short concept film. He did exactly what you're trying to do now, so you'll have to master the same techniques he used to do his short film. Make a note of them.

[bloodangel]

AMEN to that brotha,

[Shinji_Ikari]

Ok hello. I am going to announce the money for donations total = $4.35 has been returned to the donators.
'
Also, who ever Greg is You have gotten what you wanted. We are shutting down at 6:00 pm today. The site is going down as well. Apparently when you told the government that we were a child porn flick it did the trick.

Any info you want to discuss email me. I have alot of things i must do right now so I cannot ready the posts above untill I get home.

[Samurai Drifter]

^ :lol:

I don't know who this Greg guy is, but that's pretty funny. Oh well, he put your project out of its misery.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

Are you serious? Some guy named Greg?

Coincedently... I know someone on here named Greg and he happens to be Leader Desslock. Of course, that seems too below Desslock.

[Samurai Drifter]

Yeah, Desslock wouldn't do that.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

..Infact, I'd go as far to say he probably wanted this thing to work out more than all of us.

[kiyomi]

Desslocks real name is Greg??????!!!!!!!

Funny..he doesn't look like a "Greg" to me...

Oh well, Shinji, your project failed. Told you that you could not pull off something that epic on a shoestring budget. It's like me trying to become a white-blonde hair-blue eyed-Pamela Anderson-duplicate.
Can't be done.
WISH it could be done...
But can't......
The end.

[Nano]

Of course he looks like a Greg!

sorry man, better luck next time eh.

[kiyomi]

Does NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Samurai Drifter]

DOES TOO.

Wait a sec.

[Soluzar]

Also, who ever Greg is You have gotten what you wanted. We are shutting down at 6:00 pm today. The site is going down as well. Apparently when you told the government that we were a child porn flick it did the trick.

I don't imagine even for a second that the government would just believe that without proof. Previously, I thought you were just deluded. Now I'm leaning towards this having been a hoax.

[Nano]

I've seen him in that priest outfit, but I wonder what he looked like when he was young.

BTW, DOES TOO!

Was it a hoax? Is he going to jump out and shout "You just got punked!"?

[Samurai Drifter]

Even if it WAS all a hoax, some of the best threads on AN have come out of it.

[Nano]

Yeah I guess you're right, good stuff.

[Leader Desslock]

Yes, my name is Greg. No, I didn't call the government and tell them that he was making a child porn flick. :lol:

<does some checking>

Ah. Your church finally got sick of you pirating their bandwidth, did they? I had to wonder what you were thinking there...

[Haro!]

Oh well, Shinji, your project failed. Told you that you could not pull off something that epic on a shoestring budget. It's like me trying to become a white-blonde hair-blue eyed-Pamela Anderson-duplicate.
Can't be done.
WISH it could be done...
But can't......


Nooooo! Kiyomichan you're fine just the way you are.

Haha child-porn that has to be the funniest/dumbest excuse. Though your little IM conversation did strongly hint at your desire to do so. Anyway, I was looking forward to this lasting longer.

[kiyomi]

wowwww..will revelations cease to amaze me...ahhh,,,nope!!

Greg, huh?? I still say you look more like..I dunno...maybe a Michael..or a Charles...maybe even a Heathcliff....

Yeah Nanochan..GREG..in a PRIEST outfit..the name just doesn't add up to his face, does it?? Lets call him St. George.... :P

[Bernard_Monsha]

Ah. Your church finally got sick of you pirating their bandwidth, did they? I had to wonder what you were thinking there...

And God did smite Shinji for stealing that bandwidth which was his.

[Leader Desslock]

@kiyomichan - Not "Father Gregory"? Ah, well. If it helps you can call me Ishmael. That was my nickname for a while. As for what I looked like growing up? Pale, very skinny, crooked eyes - not much to look at, really.

ANYHOO - if I had to guess what's going on with Shinji, it's a combination of two factors:

1) With direct feedback on his effects, he's finally realized how hard this will be and is quitting, just like he did his Trigun game. I doubt this is the primary factor, however.

2) His church probably read him the riot act for hosting his forums and his file downloads on their website. This, I think, is more immediately relevant. ^_^

There may be other factors involved (ADV finally sending a C&D, actors wondering when they're supposed to start, etc.), but I expect he'll fill us in on the details when he gets time. Or not. Doesn't much matter now, does it?


So yes, I did get involved. I did not call "the government". There is no way to call "the government". This is a civil matter, so there's nobody in "the government" who would care. The only people who would care would be the North American licensor, in this case ADV.

Remember back in the other thread where I gave Shinji one week to produce evidence that this was not a hoax? Actually, I gave him a week and a half. And he didn't produce any sort of evidence, so I operated based on that assumption and called ADV directly. Dumber than a box of rocks, I can tell you - one of the most painful calls I've ever had to suffer through. When I *finally* managed to get it through their heads what was going on, they were fairly well irritated.

Long story short: they thought Shinji's little project might make waves for the REAL live action project (which has already had its share of problems), and they didn't want to risk that. They wanted to send in the national guard (darn near), but instead they agreed to a Cease And Desist.

Why did I call the licensor? Well, I thought this was a hoax. Even after seeing Shinji's little effects clip he just posted (the first proof he's done ANYTHING), I still give it a > 50% chance of being a hoax. But on the off chance I was wrong, I still: a) called the licensor so not to start a paper trail on Shinji, and b) I stressed heavily that this was a high school kid and a fan project, so harsh legal action wasn't necessary.

But again, why did I call? Well, if the kid was a hoax, it needed to be shut down. If not, then an idealistic kid was talking about spending a whole lot of money he didn't have for something he obviously couldn't do, and which might eventually get him sued if he distributed it. Rapping him with a C&D was the least of his worries, and it might actually get him to start thinking about a real project in a real manner.

SO - after that, I let it go. I do have a whole collection of info on Shinji, including archives of his web updates, his personal info, and pretty much all the evidence anyone would need to put together a court case and send him to jail. I've never given this to ADV, but I kept it around, just in case it was ever PROVEN that this was a scam. In which case I'd have turned the entire case file over to ADV and let Shinji fry.

I didn't do that, however. I nearly did when he started lying to us outright, but if truth be told, that was just too entertaining to stop. And it turned up some additional info on him, which was handy to have.

As soon as I noticed that he'd hosted his forum and his downloads on the Trail Blazer Missions site, I did contact their director to warn her. If this did become a legal issue, then the involvement of his church organization would've gotten him in some SERIOUS hot water (with the church protecting its image), so I thought it was best they kicked those files off their website. I sent them an FYI, and it appears the offending files have now been removed. I'm sure Shinji got a stern dressing-down from the folks at Trail Blazer, and if he was formerly doing any web design for them, I'd guess that's ended.


All in all, it sounds like Shinji's finally reaping what he had sown. A good lesson in how NOT to run a hoax, in my opinion. It could've been a lot worse. I could've gotten him expelled, for example - contemplated it, in fact. But it was always that 1% chance that I might be wrong that made me limit my actions to scaring him straight, rather than smiting him with the Wave Motion Gun. That 1% also obligated me to give him warning of every single action I took, along with a way to prevent me from taking that action. He chose his consequences deliberately, and with foreknowledge of them. You can't save a fool from himself.

I'll be interested to hear what's happening on his end. ^_^


Of course, Shinji - if you actually DID want to make a film, there's nothing stopping you at all. You've got everything assembled to make Any Other Science Fiction / Mecha Film you might want. All you have to do is get a script and start. And you could even sell it.

...that's if you were ever serious, which the safe money still says you weren't.

[kiyomi]

daaaauuuummmmmmmmm!!!!

*Kiyomichan bows before the great Father GEORGE*

We're not worthy!!!!!!!
We're not worthy!!!!!!!

You rock, Dessdude! ;)

[sailornyanko]

Yes, my name is Greg. No, I didn't call the government and tell them that he was making a child porn flick. :lol:

This comment alone is officially the most uproaring and revealing post of the day. Desslock above all people admitting his true name. Curioser and curioser...

[Samurai Drifter]

And the moral is: just because you don't know someone IRL doesn't mean you should **** with them.

[kiyomi]

habve you seen his pic yet??

Killer priest on the loose.. :devil:

[sailornyanko]

habve you seen his pic yet??

Killer priest on the loose.. :devil:

Gives me fine memories of why I like Fou Rafine from B't X. Grrrr... Priest Fetishes.

:lol:

[Nano]

I've never said my name, not even on the what is you first name thread.

[kiyomi]

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!

*strange..I have this feeling about going to "confession"...* snicker....

but the dude seriously rocks!!
when he writes something down..my brain goes into a freeze lock and I seriously have to read his stuff like 2 times before I get what he's saying..he's very intense sometimes...

[kiyomi]

NANO..you dang birdbrain!!!!! YOU'RE the one who told me it WAS "Nano" and no one believed you!!...are ya liein now??

Do I gotta chunk a fryin pan at your head..AGAIN???

[sailornyanko]

Oooohhh... Am I smelling love in the air?? I believe there isn't too much age difference between you two.

[kiyomi]

SHADDUP, Sailormonkeynuts!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dess is just a good friend for cryin out loud!!!!!
I respect him and his wisdom..thats ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

enuff said..Im gonna run you over with my car........

[Nano]

oh yeah, i remember now....BUSTED!!! *Scampers away with a frying pan bent around his head*

[kiyomi]

thought so..NANO...ya dang birdfunk....

*chunks popcorn at Nanochan*

[sailornyanko]

Hahaha, if I could tell you all of the times I've miraculously been spared from sure death by being runned over in this city where everyone drives like mad animals... I really must have a guardian angel I swear. Poor sap must be sick of saving my butt all of the time.

[Nano]

So will we ever see this film if it's for real?

[kiyomi]

well then..your "gaurdian angel" can save your butt ONE MORE TIME!!!!!!!!

grrrrrrrrr............ :ssj:

[Samurai Drifter]

Considering Desslock got it shut down, something tells me... no. :lol:

*reenacts the last scene of Star Wars where everyone's celebrating the destruction of the Empire*

[kiyomi]

no Nanochan..you can't see the film cuz it aint for real..now go get some choco covered raisins and play in the sandbox....

[kiyomi]

Considering Desslock got it shut down, something tells me... no. :lol:

*reenacts the last scene of Star Wars where everyone's celebrating the destruction of the Empire*

dannggg..I like you, Samuraisan!! Love the ending to that particular Star Wars flick..

[Samurai Drifter]

:cool:

*plays drums with stormtrooper helmets with kiyomichan*

[kiyomi]

*slams the drum over Samuraichans skull*

get my name right!!!!!!!!!!!

[Samurai Drifter]

:'(

Me sowwy kiyomichan. (It's right now! :O)

[Nano]

yeah it's kiyomi!!

well my real name....

This thread will be closed if no one talks about the actuall subject.

[Samurai Drifter]

This thread will be closed if no one talks about the actuall subject.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Nano]

I see your point. What subject...lol

[kiyomi]

they'll porbably close the thread soon nanochan..its a dead and moot point now anyway..but..it WAS fun while it lasted..

[Leader Desslock]

I'm still interested to get the full story from Shinji.

[Nano]

but we could get banned for spamming.

please don't ban me!


^thats my point, others may still want to talk about it.

[kiyomi]

GREG..*ahem*...you probably never will....

[Samurai Drifter]

but we could get banned for spamming.
Ahahahaha. AN is often overly-strict, but not THAT strict. They'll just delete this thread, probably.

And I'd like to hear what Shinji has to say, even if it is a long string of curses at Desslock.

[kiyomi]

Samuraichan...Dess eats puppies for b-fast...Shinman will never stand a chance....

[Leader Desslock]

And I'd like to hear what Shinji has to say, even if it is a long string of curses at Desslock.
That's more or less what I'm expecting, and hey, I've probably earned whatever he has to say. I'm certainly not going to be offended. If anything I'll probably read them in the same voice as the "Wulin Warriors" guy.

[kiyomi]

See?? what'd I tell ya....**shakes head**

[sazae]

That's more or less what I'm expecting, and hey, I've probably earned whatever he has to say. I'm certainly not going to be offended. If anything I'll probably read them in the same voice as the "Wulin Warriors" guy.

Well if he gives you a response not on here but through a PM I'd like to ask for a copy of it. I only tried once to get him to stop and then just gave up and got a good chuckle out of the whole thing.

[Caine]

I'm still interested to get the full story from Shinji.

Good luck. Maybe you should see if as a priest you can get God's help, cause i don't think Shinji is going to come out and tell us on his own

[Haro!]

Wow. When I grow up I want to be like Desslock. Well a fusion of Desslock and myself. Wait, does that mean that in a way Dess has taken away our fun?

[Samurai Drifter]

Well if he gives you a response not on here but through a PM I'd like to ask for a copy of it. I only tried once to get him to stop and then just gave up and got a good chuckle out of the whole thing.
I'd also like a PM if that's the case, Desslock. I must know how this turns out. :O

[Oburi]

Child porn? Well.. maybe if you re did that one scene from End of Eva with Rei and Gendou.. uh.. x_@

[Nano]

I'd also like a PM if that's the case, Desslock. I must know how this turns out. :O
Me too.........

[Rain]

Oh my... this thread sure is getting feisty. First we had pictures of shirtless guys, well guy, and now this.

:lol: What a turn of events, jeeez.

[kiyomi]

hey Melchan..you know we love ya..right??

and you know I'm always good for a pan flying contest..so..it really shouldnt suprise you that the thread gets intense hun..just go with the flo..

[Tenou]

You know what, Dess, if Shinji PMs you with a real explanation, just post it here instead of passing on to everyone (and if you don't want to do that, just pm me, I'd like to hear his explanation). And congrats on getting through ADV. I didn't get a response and don't have the time to play sillybuggers.
You know, you're like Jesus... You have all of these followers circling around you and listening to your every word, learning from you, waiting for you to give threads your miracle touch and set everything straight. It’s kind of funny to watch.

[HitokiriShadow]

I'm kind of disappointed that this had to come to an end, but once again Desslock impresses me. If AN (or anime in general) became a religion, I nominate Desslock (Greg) for pope. Or at least Sainthood.

[Leader Desslock]

Nah, I'm too evil for all that. The Devil just upped my retainer, so I'll remain his faithful Advocate.

[Bernard_Monsha]

Nah, I'm too evil for all that. The Devil just upped my retainer, so I'll remain his faithful Advocate.


For shame Desslock you ruined the career of the next Alan Smithee!

[gameoffreak8]

I am very surprised this thread is not locked or deleted. :O

[Bernard_Monsha]

I am very surprised this thread is not locked or deleted. :O


It will die in a couple of days and sink into obscurity.

[GreatNekoKoneko]

... and Leader Desslock's post will forever be known as "Desslock's Killer Speech". you just killed him, LD. plain and simple.

...but truly. you post has made me an ever loyal serf to the kingdom of Blue.

[Helvetica]

I think that strobelight guy would let him use it... since he willingly sent it to him. I donno at what price though.

Oh and thanks for that topless shot Shinji, really, thanks dude.

...
I'm the strobelight guy. Funny what happens when you look yourself up on the Internet, huh?

Personally, I don't mind if he's using the song I sent him (if ever that movie ever goes underway). If ever, I'd just like to be on the credits or something.

It's kind of outdated anyway and I've got newer music to focus my energies on.

Can he top the pic? I'm kind of curious how he out does himself next.
Reeked of sexy, didn't it?

Oh I meant the Freeplaymusic.com thing he mentioned. Not to mention the possibility he's probably conning the guy into giving him music. Or trying to get us to believe him. If it is the latter, he sure must spend alot of time coming up with ways to keep this thing going.
That was a real conversation. I was curious about that EVA project because I used to attempt to program video games and film movies and my ambitions would get way ahead of what I was capable of doing. Hence, I'd eat my hat if he could pull off something as large scale as he'd envisioned.

He asked me to do some music for the trailer. I agreed to do it if he could show me a trailer (or some results). I never got a follow-up though. =/

Oh yeah, I still think any adaptation of EVA needs Misato fanservice, live-action or otherwise. ;)

[GreatNekoKoneko]

...WHOA. somebody used a Phoenix Down on this EPIC THREAD!

geez. now i don't know what to do.

how is everything, like, project-wise?

[The Million Dollar Prons]

Biggest. Thread. Necromancy. EVER

[GreatNekoKoneko]

...im too lazy to check back, but anybody got the link for that?

[Bernard_Monsha]

Geez I thought Shinji was back for more verbal lashings. For those who want to relive the past

http://www.evathemovie.com/contact.htm

[Helvetica]

...WHOA. somebody used a Phoenix Down on this EPIC THREAD!

geez. now i don't know what to do.

how is everything, like, project-wise?
Looked pretty epic to me too. I just scrolled through it and damn. He never told me his project was shut down by ADV. Guess I can stop waiting for that footage now.

As for me, I'm getting ready to hit the studio for an instrumental progressive metal demo. Mostly for potential singers to reference vocal parts to. It's overrated.

Biggest. Thread. Necromancy. EVER
Hell yeah.

[Tenou]

It will die in a couple of days and sink into obscurity.Yeah, you'd think. But there's always that one guy...

Helvetica, damn it, boy, couldn't you have waited a few days, then popped one year from the last post, like the ghost of Evangelion terrors past?

[Leader Desslock]

It appears that he's moved his copyright infringment on to other projects, like a Live Action Pokemon:

http://www.3dm3.com/forum/showthread.php?p=42921

You know, I couldn't have made that up if I'd tried. :lol:

[The Million Dollar Prons]

Really wish I knew what the point of a live action pokemon short would be.

[Bernard_Monsha]

Why do I feel McDonalds will be the career of choice for young Shinji?

[Helvetica]

Geez I thought Shinji was back for more verbal lashings. For those who want to relive the past

http://www.evathemovie.com/contact.htm
It seems like every forum he's promoted his fan project on has turned him into a whipping boy. I didn't know people from Animenation would take those kinda measures though - honestly, how likely was it that anything would have come out of a limited budget and an oversized ambition?

Personally I thought calling ADV was kind of harsh on Desslock's part, but going over his reasoning I guess he did what he had to do for what most people knew was an ill-fated project. Then again, he was just a high school kid with an unrealistic proposal.

Talking to him, he seemed pretty serious about making the movie. I can relate - I had oversized ambitions kinda like his in middle school and high school and talked about them as if they were gonna be pro-quality. Having that kind of experience, I wouldn't be so hasty to call it a hoax if it was one.

Just an outsider's $0.02. Cheers.

[Tenou]

Looked pretty epic to me too. I just scrolled through it and damn. He never told me his project was shut down by ADV. Guess I can stop waiting for that footage now.

As for me, I'm getting ready to hit the studio for an instrumental progressive metal demo. Mostly for potential singers to reference vocal parts to. It's overrated.


Hell yeah.
If by 'project' you mean him asking for money to make his movie, then yeah, his 'project' was shut down by ADV.

[Helvetica]

Yeah, you'd think. But there's always that one guy...

Helvetica, damn it, boy, couldn't you have waited a few days, then popped one year from the last post, like the ghost of Evangelion terrors past?
Yeah, but when I was a kid I always liked it when Christmas came early. :P

[Helvetica]

If by 'project' you mean him asking for money to make his movie, then yeah, his 'project' was shut down by ADV.
I'm guessing that means donations.

I'm too lazy to read the whole epic thread in detail, so I don't exactly know what you mean. Was he soliciting people to donate money for the movie?

[The Million Dollar Prons]

He was trying to get us to write\donate\whatever for his movie, all that really came out of it was a clip of the Eva naime with explosions super imposed over it. If I remember right, ADV and the church (he was bumming off his church's dedicated server for webspace) both double kicked his ***

[Tenou]

It seems like every forum he's promoted his fan project on has turned him into a whipping boy. I didn't know people from Animenation would take those kinda measures though - honestly, how likely was it that anything would have come out of a limited budget and an oversized ambition?

Personally I thought calling ADV was kind of harsh on Desslock's part, but going over his reasoning I guess he did what he had to do for what most people knew was an ill-fated project. Then again, he was just a high school kid with an unrealistic proposal.

Talking to him, he seemed pretty serious about making the movie. I can relate - I had oversized ambitions kinda like his in middle school and high school and talked about them as if they were gonna be pro-quality. Having that kind of experience, I wouldn't be so hasty to call it a hoax if it was one.

Just an outsider's $0.02. Cheers.

We did take to him in the beginning, we gave him suggestions and tried to point him in the right direction. He became a whipping boy when it became clear that he was either trying to con us or just a retarded puppy.
When he started claiming other's work as his own, that's when we got mean. When he tried to solicite donations based on other's hard work, that's when more than a few of us contacted ADV.

Nope, he really did ask for everything he got.

I'm guessing that means donations.

I'm too lazy to read the whole epic thread in detail, so I don't exactly know what you mean. Was he soliciting people to donate money for the movie?Yes, yes he was.

[Ketaru]

This is the infamous Live-action Eva movie thread everybody is talking about all the time?

[Shiroiyuki]

Unfortunately, yes it is.

[Tom Servo]

Good grief, not this again.

Talking to him, he seemed pretty serious about making the movie.

So serious, in fact, that he never even bothered to put up a storyboard or anything of that ilk - the entire focus of the project (besides the paypal thingymajig) seemed to be on making a 'trailer' and not a movie.

Where are my previous posts here? As I certainly remember posting in this thread. Were they deleted or removed in a Back to The Future-type way - either way I have to wonder what the intention behind that was.

Playing with history again, timebender?

[Helvetica]

He was trying to get us to write\donate\whatever for his movie, all that really came out of it was a clip of the Eva naime with explosions super imposed over it.
Haha! That reminds me of one of the old Rocky trailers where they have a glove with the American flag and another glove with the Communist hammer and sickle colliding against each other...and EXPLODING!

Ahh...the 80's.

If I remember right, ADV and the church (he was bumming off his church's dedicated server for webspace) both double kicked his ***
Ahh, the blunders of using your church's technology. That's how the BTK killer got caught...he gave himself away by delivering a floppy disk with a letter to the police in Word format. The information on the file and floppy disk led back to his church's PC and his personal account.

Would you believe, he was president of the congregation council. =\

[Leader Desslock]

Where are my previous posts here? As I certainly remember posting in this thread. Were they deleted or removed in a Back to The Future-type way - either way I have to wonder what the intention behind that was.

Playing with history again, timebender?
They might've been in the other two threads. This was (I think) the third thread mae; the other two were deleted. I think I remember you posting in at least the second of those threads.

Dunno, it's been a while.

[Ketaru]

Should use this thread as reason that there should be an "Ask Desslock" forum, almost as spoof of an "Ask John" forum, where the answers are always written a pinch of spite and wit. I also think we should we have an "Ask Prons" forum, but that's another story completely.

[Helvetica]

Good grief, not this again.

Talking to him, he seemed pretty serious about making the movie.

So serious, in fact, that he never even bothered to put up a storyboard or anything of that ilk - the entire focus of the project (besides the paypal thingymajig) seemed to be on making a 'trailer' and not a movie.
I said he seemed serious. I never said he was capable. He spoke to me about his plans and what he wanted to do, and I listened, because I was curious how a high school student with a budget less than $100 would pull something like this off. Truth be told, I was willing to help him if he could produce evidence that he was capable of making this happen. Specifically, I asked him for footage to inspire me to write music.

I never got that footage, or even a follow up. I guess we share sentiments then.

[Tom Servo]

That makes sense, Desslock - there may have been multiple threads. Can't escape the feeling that I posted in this one, too.

I'll have to check what else might have been changed - hang on, the search function - even for registered members - doesn't actually search the entire stretch of subforums at all, which means I can't do that. What a waste!

Edit: I like the sound of this live action Pokemon thing, for the Pokeball all you need is one of those spherical hamster treadballs with various household pets crushed together inside - then when you throw it against the ground it cracks open and they all pop out... just like in the show! Animal Welfare might get onto your case with this plan, however.

[Tenou]

That makes sense, Desslock - there may have been multiple threads. Can't escape the feeling that I posted in this one, too.

I'll have to check what else might have been changed - hang on, the search function - even for registered members - doesn't actually search the entire stretch of subforums at all, which means I can't do that. What a waste!

There were numerous threads, the first where he announced his project, the second where he announced that he couldn't do what he wanted on the budget he had, then this one. And I'm thinking a couple of others in the Eva forum.
Some were locked, but I don't think they were deleted.

Either way, OT isn't included in the search, but if you really want to find what you posted, go to google advanced search, search animenation.net for your name. You'll find the archived threads.

[Hara!]

Do mods save these on their HDs?

[Helvetica]

Do mods save these on their HDs?
There's an archive. That's where I found this thread and that conversation log in the first place.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

He never did pay back the 50 dollars I sent.

[KatayokuのTenshi]

Personally I thought calling ADV was kind of harsh on Desslock's part, but going over his reasoning I guess he did what he had to do for what most people knew was an ill-fated project. Then again, he was just a high school kid with an unrealistic proposal.
Copyright infringment?
Desslock NO LIKE.
Seriously, don't bring it up. :uhh:

It appears that he's moved his copyright infringment on to other projects, like a Live Action Pokemon:
You know, I couldn't have made that up if I'd tried. :lol:
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o173/KatayokunoTenshi_01/Emoticon/suicideispainful.gif

There's an archive. That's where I found this thread and that conversation log in the first place.

You mean this Archive? (http://www.animenation.net/forums/archive/index.php/)

[Leader Desslock]

Copyright infringment?
Desslock NO LIKE.
Seriously, don't bring it up. :uhh:
To be fair, that has nothing to do with why I contacted ADV. His lies had merely gotten to the point of ridiculousness, so I called his bluff. If I remember correctly, the progression was like this:

1) He claimed to have [studio x] working on his 3-d models
2) Someone contacted said studio to debunk that claim
3) He claimed to have the eva-r team working on his script (which conflicted with previous claims that he was working verbatim from the show script, down to "every gesture and every nuance".
4) Someone contacted eva-r to debunk that claim

...detect the pattern here?...

5) He said that the moment he received a C&D, he'd shut down immediately.
6) I knew he wouldn't do that, so I'm the one who called his bluff. But knowing that debunking this claim could land him in hot water, I gave him an ultimatum. I told him that unless he posted proof of his work by the end of one week, I would contact the licensor.
7) He failed to produce proof, despite several reminders (in posts and PMs)
8) I let an additional week or so pass, then contacted ADV Films.

This was not a case of Desslock No Like Copyright Infringement. This was a case of calling a fraud on his claims. He could have avoided it by either: a) admitting the deception, or b) posting proof of his work. He chose to do neither, so the licensor was contacted.

[GreatNekoKoneko]

...nah. Desslock just HATED the living GUTS of that guy. seriously.

it's ok, LD. it's ok to hate.

[Gray]

In honour of the 'Your Favourite Thread Ever' I am Necroing this WONDERFUL topic, all the way back from 2006. It's somewhat of a wonder it never got locked. http://thelastcandle.net/otherStor/emoticon_monocle.gif

[Sendo Takeshi]

In honour of the 'Your Favourite Thread Ever' I am Necroing this WONDERFUL topic, all the way back from 2006. It's somewhat of a wonder it never got locked. http://thelastcandle.net/otherStor/emoticon_monocle.gif

You're about as dumb as you are a troll.

[Mikosage]

Now it's going to get locked and/or deleted, you know.

[Gray]

Now it's going to get locked and/or deleted, you know.

Oh well. I was looking for the origional one but it looks like that one already got deleted. Shame too :(

[Bernard_Monsha]

You know you could have just posted this as a link in the "favourite thread ever".