What do u look for in the opposite sex

[Mooserocka]

When u are looking at a member of the oppisite sex, what turns u on. Please dont just say boobs and A$$. I am a male, I look for eyes and abs. How about the rest of u AN???

[Samurai Drifter]

Boobs and ***.

[Smith]

It's the eyes and smile ultimately for me. I like everything else. Plus-sizes are a definite no-no for me.

[blackknight]

^2 Shallow.

The first thing that catches my eye is hair. I prefer brunettes.

Edit: Only now have I realized that I called the wrong person shallow. My apologies, Char.

[minmae]

I look in a guy is his eyes, smile, and hair and not too thin or fat. Then I check if he has appeal.Oh-oh And let me add, his personality. I like nice, but not TOO nice. I hate the TOO NICE. Other than that, Heh.

[Leader Desslock]

Intelligence and a sense of humor. Curiosity, open-mindedness and self-confidence. The desire to challenge herself, the courage to see where the road leads her. Honesty. The capacity to trust. Genuine compassion. Someone who genuinely sees good things in life, and that those things outweigh the bad. Someone who's literate, loves to travel off the beaten path and experience simple pleasures. Willing to try new things simply to have fun trying them. Someone who's independent, but who also enjoys sharing her life with others. Complex but uncomplicated.

Yes. Those are actually the things I look for* in the opposite sex.

*Thus far, unsuccessfully, I might add. Should I be looking for Boobs & *** instead? I see a lot of guys going for that, and they seem to have more luck. Or more dates, anyway.

[Keldran]

Pulse .

[Rurouni Saiyan]

I second Brother Samurai Drifter's sentiments as well.:lol:

In all honesty, though, I look for a woman who's kind, caring, feminine, and just an overall good human being.

[minmae]

Intelligence and a sense of humor. Curiosity, open-mindedness and self-confidence. The desire to challenge herself, the courage to see where the road leads her. Honesty. The capacity to trust. Genuine compassion. Someone who genuinely sees good things in life, and that those things outweigh the bad. Someone who's literate, loves to travel off the beaten path and experience simple pleasures. Willing to try new things simply to have fun trying them. Someone who's independent, but who also enjoys sharing her life with others. Complex but uncomplicated.

Yes. Those are actually the things I look for* in the opposite sex.

Thus far, unsuccessfully, I might add. Should I be looking for Boobs & *** instead? I see a lot of guys going for that, and they seem to have more luck. Or more dates, anyway.


Awwww, Leader Dessock, you remind of this character in this movie (in the phillipines) That he said,(in tagalog of course) "... I like the kind of girls that desire to challenge herself, and has courage where the road leads her, where she isn't afraid...", I mean really 'AWWWW' that's so SWEET! You find that lover of your sooner or sooner.

[VidelCoolGirl]

Hmm. Someone who can make me laugh first of all. I love a man who has a good sense of humor. One who has a nice smile, and who is a bit spontaneous. A guy who knows how to respect women of course, and a guy who digs anime. We could have anime sleepovers.

[IAmTacoSalad]

I don't suppose I look for any one individual thing because that isn't how life works. You don't get individual characteristics, you get an entire package. If you are willing to go into a relashonship without first acknowledging this fact then I doubt it will work out. This mentality combined with the now commonplace apathy in this country is why there is such an exorbitant divorce rate.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

I like my women like I like my coffe.

Big. Black. Loaded with cream.

Hmm. Someone who can make me laugh first of all. I love a man who has a good sense of humor. One who has a nice smile, and who is a bit spontaneous. A guy who knows how to respect women of course, and a guy who digs anime. We could have anime sleepovers.

Replace "respect women" with "enjoying a home made dinner after coming home from work."

I think this MAY be the most sexist post I have ever made.

[Samurai Drifter]

I like my women like I like my coffe.

Big. Black. Loaded with cream.
If I put quotes in my sig that would totally be there.

[xxdreamergirlxx]

They have to be nice, sweet, and respectful, but with a little attitude mixed in. They shouldn't be too much of a pushover.

Physically I'm really not that picky. I've met gorgeous people I can't stand, and been attracted to people most wouldn't consider attractive, and a little bit of vice versa.

[Ketaru]

After living in a mostly girls floor in a dorm, I have to say that, beyond looks and personality and humor and all that stuff that other people mention that the first criteria or requirement of the opposite sex I will look for...

...girls that are willing to leave their overblown drama at the door. What is especially nice are the girls that don't have that "You *****! I don't ever want to speak to you again even though I don't really mean it!" drama to begin with.

[futurebiblehero]

Character, intelligence (or what I deem intelligent), confidence and doesn't show any signs of potentially needing me as a father figure and/or babysitter. I could also never be with anyone who I never respected their taste in music. I know that sounds petty, but maybe I'm a petty person.

That said, I've been in the same relationship for the past 4 years anyway and my girlfriend meets most of the criteria above (always a little lacking on the confidence part, though).

[Scandiadream]

- That he respects me, treats me well, and accepts me just as I am.
- That he is intelligent, ambitious, educated, and has at least some sort of post-secondary education. And that he either has a job that allows him to support himself, or is in the process of actively searching for one.
- That he is imaginative and creative. That we have the important things in common.
- That he pursues interests and hobbies of his own. That he has activities of his own and thus does not depend on me for everything.
- That he is a Christian and lives his live according to Christian morals and values.
- That he has inner strength and thus has the conviction to do the right thing.
- And finally, that he is my type in physique and thus I am attracted to him. That I feel comfortable with him. That he takes good care of himself.

[kiyomi]

He's breathing
Has a pulse
Looks like Brad Pitt

Ahhh, heck..2 outta 3 aint bad...Angelina already has Brad. Sucker.

[Polaryzed_123]

He's breathing
Has a pulse
Looks like Brad Pitt

Ahhh, heck..2 outta 3 aint bad...Angelina already has Brad. Sucker.
Edit: She's breathing
Has a pulse
Looks like Angelina Jolie

Ahhh, heck..2 outta 3 aint bad...

[kiyomi]

^LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:

[Nano]

cute hair, not long and flowing it doesn't have to be. cute nose,eyes and mouth.
a nice smile, and of course they have to like me and think.

[Hybrid Shock]

A** and boobs

(on a serious note, i'm too cynical to believe that anyone would like me for me.. or anyone would like me in the first place... Makes for a lonely life when i'm also a hopeless romantic... a trait i think is disappearing in society as time goes by...

[Polaryzed_123]

I used to want just a** and bewbs, and then I went with the whole caring, intelligent, blah, blah, blah thing. But now I've been tainted and I'm just back to a** and bewbs. :P

[Nano]

yeah she has to have those but i wouldn't go crazy over it.

[kiyomi]

I used to want just a** and bewbs, and then I went with the whole caring, intelligent, blah, blah, blah thing. But now I've been tainted and I'm just back to a** and bewbs. :P

Geeze Polarsan..you're a man with such deep thoughts.
*throws a frying pan at his head* :P

[Rain]

Intelligence and a sense of humor. Curiosity, open-mindedness and self-confidence. The desire to challenge herself, the courage to see where the road leads her. Honesty. The capacity to trust. Genuine compassion. Someone who genuinely sees good things in life, and that those things outweigh the bad. Someone who's literate, loves to travel off the beaten path and experience simple pleasures. Willing to try new things simply to have fun trying them. Someone who's independent, but who also enjoys sharing her life with others. Complex but uncomplicated.

Yes. Those are actually the things I look for* in the opposite sex.

*Thus far, unsuccessfully, I might add. Should I be looking for Boobs & *** instead? I see a lot of guys going for that, and they seem to have more luck. Or more dates, anyway.

Good luck with that Dess, that would take a lifetime of searching for.

As for me, the guy has to have a good sense of humor, I enjoy a good laugh. He has to be respectful of other people and especially my friends. Last and foremost, he can't be a cheater. *sigh*

PS. Been hurt too many times by jerks with no consciences...

[HSaabedra]

^ I'm looking for a girl that can stand up and have the strength to stand up for herself, beauty and intelligence. I found the girl of my dreams, but my irrational fear of girls my own age coupled with depression in high school does not lend itself well to companionship. I just can't seem to find a girl I can relate to. I sometimes wish I was dumber so that I wouldn't scare girls away.

[Leader Desslock]

Good luck with that Dess, that would take a lifetime of searching for....
Yeah, but when I find her, the wait will have been worth it. :)

<thinks about it>
<rereads earlier post>

Okay, so it appears I'm looking for Urd or Peorth. Possibly Lind. I guess I'd better start dialing those wrong numbers now... :lol:

[VidelCoolGirl]

Leader, If you wern't so far away and I wasn't a year underage, I'd totally go out with you.

[kiyomi]

You know what?? I think you ALL are going to find the right person for you!! It may take a while, and alot of soul searching, but like Dess said, "It'll be worth the wait." And it will!
All you guys are smart, young, independant, full of life..and one day, SOMEONE will see that you are definatly worth their weight in gold!
I'm not saying this to blow smoke up your butts (sick visual, but bear with me..I'm on a roll..). I'm saying all this because I truly believe in all of you!
Good luck to all of you with beautiful hearts and strong minds.
Life will get better...

For every soul, there is a soulmate..believe in yourself.. :heart:

[kiyomi]

*High Fives LadyWhiteWolf"..*snicker*..

I was actually thinking...FEET..yeah..that's the ticket.. :x

[dragonandante]

Intelligence and a sense of humor. Curiosity, open-mindedness and self-confidence. The desire to challenge herself, the courage to see where the road leads her. Honesty. The capacity to trust. Genuine compassion. Someone who genuinely sees good things in life, and that those things outweigh the bad. Someone who's literate, loves to travel off the beaten path and experience simple pleasures. Willing to try new things simply to have fun trying them. Someone who's independent, but who also enjoys sharing her life with others. Complex but uncomplicated.

Yes. Those are actually the things I look for* in the opposite sex.

*Thus far, unsuccessfully, I might add. Should I be looking for Boobs & *** instead? I see a lot of guys going for that, and they seem to have more luck. Or more dates, anyway.

Hah... rather than write my own, I'll take Dess' description since we apparently have similiar tastes in women. But I'll add my two cents to the mix. Why open-mindedness? I love when a girl has the drive to try new things, see new places, etc.. Why self-confidence? When I see a girl with shear self confidence, never doubting herself in any way, I already have an instantaneous respect for her. When I see this in a girl the first thought that crosses my mind is, "This girl is strong."
In society these days, self-confidence can easily be crumbled, and if someone can maintain that self-confidence despite this, that person has got to be strong. Why honesty? If I'm going to be completly honest with a girl, I would love that she's completely honest with me. This goes hand in hand with trust. The rest is explained by Dess.

Side Note: If you want to give up on the quest for such a women dess, then boobs and *** it is. Hell, if I walk outside on this cool sunny day, within five minutes I'll probably find boobs and ***. But where's the challenge in that? ^_^. Ah the quest for an amazing women...

[VidelCoolGirl]

If they don't have self confidence though, doesn't mean they aren't strong. A lot of women (or guys) have been through a LOT of crappy things, and are still going. To me, that's strong. The fact that even when your childhood might have sucked hard, bad thigns never go their way, and they still are standing upright, it amazing to me.

[dragonandante]

Nah... I didn't mean for it to come out that if they don't have self confidence they aren't strong. Trust me was living in Haiti a good chunck of my life, and I've seen a bit of things growing up. Some things I even wished I haven't seen. There are some people I know who are still living there that make me wonder how they summoning up the will to keep thriving with the violence and various issues. When I read about other countries worse off than my own I wonder still how some of these people summon the will to continue to thrive and deal with it. As I live hear in America thanking God that I got the oppurtunity to be here... I'm saddened when I begin to think that there are many others who won't be able to obtain such an oppurtunity. Meh... strength exists in various forms and not simply in just one.

[Hisoka]

might have sucked hard, nad thigns never go their way, and they still are standing upright

*Raises eyebrow* :naughty:

The first thing I look for is common sense. I need to be able to have a good conversation with someone and build from there.

As for appearance I'm a fan of the legs, glutes and of course the face. :)

[Ikari Warrior]

I was actually thinking...FEET..yeah..that's the ticket.. :x

If I didn't know you were already married (and a little more...mature than I), I would totally be able to hook you up with my size 13 hobbit feet.

A girl intersted in video games and anime is definitely my ideal. I have a weakness for women with long hair. Soft, shiny hair will bend me to your will. I'm not particular about haircolor, though I'm currently dating a girl with the softest blonde hair.

I like the slender, petite bodytype, but neither of those are prerequisites.

As far as personality, I'd like a girl to be reasonably smart, and who has a great sense of humor, so she'll get my witty jokes :lol:

[Perperikon010]

Man Faye.....


:x

[Leader Desslock]

Leader, If you wern't so far away and I wasn't a year underage, I'd totally go out with you.
Oh, heck. It'll take a year for you to get to Gamilon if you leave now anyway. :) But I thank you. You're kind to your elders.

The fact that even when your childhood might have sucked hard, nad thigns never go their way, and they still are standing upright, it amazing to me.
Actually, that's the sort of self-confidence I mean. I don't mean the sort of woman who always thinks she's right - that's just arrogance. I mean the kind of person who believes in herself enough to keep standing up no matter how many times life knocks her down. That's true self-confidence.

[predecessor]

^Shallow.


maybe he like girls who are actually healthy and have a small chance of dieing of obesity or heart diease?
i like skinny but it has to be healthy skinny. none of this annorexic ********. and for me i like legs, lower back*i have no idea....*, and eyes.
personality wise. she/he has gotta be nice, caring, not afraid to take control of the situation* :naughty: * and has got to accept my many....wierd things i do

[Holy Knight]

Honestly, I don't know what to look for. I have no experience in this area. Idealy, I would want someone smarter than me so I can test the edge of my wits. And a great body. I also have a weakness for those piercing, grey eyes. As for personnality, I haven't met enough people to correctly evaluate that. Someone who can think like me and goes with the flow is what I look for. But that's so vague and ambiguous...I really need to go out more.

[Nano]

proberly someone who could get my humor i speak fast and make up stuff but im not here to explain that. and it would be good if she hated stuff as much as i do, then we could ***** about everything and everyone and laugh
and a cute face, buns and the other thing............... -_-;

[Suiko Eiji]

I think this MAY be the most sexist post I have ever made.

I like my women like I like my coffee.


Ground up and in the freezer.

Fixed for added sexism.

Honestly, I've just come out of a relationship (nearly a year) so over the past few weeks, I've been looking into what's best for me and what attracts me. I mean, obviously, I like attractive women, bonus points if they put out; but in looking for something long-term like marriage material, I think:

She has to be caring and compassionate.
She has to like going out and having fun, but not always be expensive.
She has to be hard-working and goal driven (and cope with the fact I am a work-o-holic).
Cannot dislike alchohol.
Put out before marriage (but I can wait until we're serious).

She does not have to share every interest with me. It's cool if she doesn't want to watch anime with me or head to the range; but she has to let me have my hobbies.

She doesn't even have to share musical tastes, just so long as I can stand to listen to it.

I would prefer someone areligious; not necessarily an atheist though (some of them can be just as fanatic as the fundies).

And of course, all of this is reciprocated on my part, so while I am an @$$, I'm not a complete one at that.

[Haro!]

I look for girls like the one in my avatar. Drool.......
Actually, as far as appearance goes I like short girls (I'm not tall due to my mexican/japanese genes, damn them) with that sort of cute-nerdy thing going for them. Also I prefer not-too thin and not too much meat on them. I have a preference for (long) black hair that feels nice when you put your fingers through it also their hair HAS to be nicer than mine. Since most of the girls I;m into have naturally dark hair I don't mind if its dyed and looks good (like my avatar ^^). Also they have to have nice hands. Oh and if you must know, I like small breasts, nothing larger than Cs.
As far as personality goes, I like a girl that can make me feel dumb at times, but can make me look smart others. I like girls that accept their emotions and don't try to hide them. Also I don't like girls that are too studious. I don't like girls that get all depressed and stuff when they get a C. I also like girls that have an overall positive outlook on life and can find the beauty in the simple aspects of life.

[VidelCoolGirl]

This thread is so much better than the "If Men wrote advice collums" thread. And I need to edit that post. I realize now how bad typos can be.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

This thread is so much better than the "If Men wrote advice collums" thread. And I need to edit that post. I realize now how bad typos can be.


That's because I havn't posted here yet!

Edit: Crap, I did.

[tokyo_master]

The things that I look for in girl is that she has to have personallity, I don't want to be bored half the time I'm with her. She has to have some of the same interests as me but not too much, because I think differences are better because we can grow together with them. She does have to be cute, not like super model hot but just cute for me to enjoy. She needs to have a good sence of humor because I think I'm sort of a funny guy so I want someone to laugh with and that's really all I have to say

[VidelCoolGirl]

That's because I havn't posted here yet!

Edit: Crap, I did.

OH SNAP! This threads gonna go to hell now!

[Japhyl]

I'm not planning on looking for someone, but if I ever decide to, I'd like someone with a deep and complex personality, who's honorable, determined, stubborn, obsessive, quiet, calm, very serious, loyal, different from everyone I've ever met, has a good memory, intelligent, honest, and modest. The person could not be a pervert. That turns me off more than anything else.

And as for looks, I'd prefer someone very thin with unusual-looking eyes, a nice hairstyle I like, very pale skin, a small waist, not very muscular, but not weak-looking either, and to not be too much taller than I am.

[max payne]

I'd like someone who's quite but funto be around. and has a sense of humor

[cyborgaaron]

I would prefer any girl as long as they weren't fat. With me I don't look for things in a girl I just let my heart figure it out. A girls a girl and as long as I love them I don't care if they have a penis growing out of there forehead. It would be nice if a good percentage didn't think I was a complete nut though.

[Nano]

You have my vote. your not a nut.

[IAmTacoSalad]

I would prefer any girl as long as they weren't fat. With me I don't look for things in a girl I just let my heart figure it out. A girls a girl and as long as I love them I don't care if they have a penis growing out of there forehead. It would be nice if a good percentage didn't think I was a complete nut though.

I think this might have something to do with people thinking your a nut.

[VidelCoolGirl]

At first I thought that was a Oblongs Refrence.

[MonkeyBoy0314]

Clean, innocent, musically-oriented, otaku, intelligent, and (most importantly) romantic.

If I were to ever meet somebody like this, my life would be complete.

[Midoriko87]

I would prefer any girl as long as they weren't fat. With me I don't look for things in a girl I just let my heart figure it out. A girls a girl and as long as I love them I don't care if they have a penis growing out of there forehead. It would be nice if a good percentage didn't think I was a complete nut though.

*****in' Post! :lol: Well, Prons' post, too. "Big. Black. And, full of cream." Full of cream? What the Hell does that mean, anywayz?


Sense of Humour...a queer sense of humour. I'm not really into stiff people, and well, stiff people aren't into me, really.
Brains...kinda. Common sense...of course. Smart guys are nice...as long they don't get carried away with it. I guess I could stand someone smarter than me...not signicantly dumber, though.
Nice boys. Not doormat nice, a-kissing nice, but still...nice. Normal niceness.
No punks. I don't mind crying boys...sorta cute. Like, Titanic-watching crying is precious (hmm, then again...). Anywho, if someone threatens to kick your ***, you'd better not cry about it. Fight back/Or Don't Fight Back, but you take that friggin' beating like a man. Ooh, and when they're kicking your ***, ask for more. :lol: Dead serious.
Nice (or average) teeth. No grills. No Platinum, No Diamonds (but it's oh so shiny), No Gold. No Sharp Sharky teeth. No Missing Front Teeth. Oh God, No Really Yellow Teeth. Chips...maybe. Overbite...tolerable. Underbite...well, I'd nickname him Somethin' Bulldog. What?
Body. I like skinny guys. Don't really mind fat guys (especially the cuddly Teddy Bear kind). Muscular guys...*Quack* :lol: But, no extreme cases. No So Massive that I can't roll my huge *** out of bed. No So Built that I'm able to flex my Butt Cheeks...that chest bouncy thingy is kinda cute, though. Skinny...it has to be a healthy-looking sknny. Not Crack Addict skinny.
Honestly, though. I want someone that is able to accept all of me. Meaning, I'm huger than a friggin' Blue Whale, and I enjoy riding on people's backs. :lol: Yeah...joking. Um, seriously, a lot of people get annoyed by my corny jokes, childish antics, supervillain/witchy laugh, Quacking, love of tackling/wrestling. Don't try to dissect me, and we'll be fine.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

*****in' Post! :lol: Well, Prons' post, too. "Big. Black. And, full of cream." Full of cream? What the Hell does that mean, anywayz?


Want me to demonstrate?

[Midoriko87]

Want me to demonstrate?

Um...not really. Honestly don't know what you're talking about, though.

[VidelCoolGirl]

I know what he's talking about. Surpsied Prons didnt say, "I like my women like I like my coffee: Black and strong."

[The Million Dollar Prons]

I know what he's talking about. Surpsied Prons didnt say, "I like my women like I like my coffee: Black and strong."

But aren't all black women strong? ;)

[Nano]

ok but could you stop shooting me in my eye?
im kind of attached to it.

[Hybrid Shock]

Man Faye.....

OMG,she's my dream woman too :P

[emotoaster]

Intelligence
Nice smile
good sense of humor
laughs at my crazyness :P
Open Mindness
Caring
has a little freaky side :naughty:
share same interest

[Anime Gee]

Intelligence, maturity, not one of those trendy dumb @sses, simple, nice, caring, & loving! ( ^o^) <3

[Oburi]

A girl that will..

- Love me for who I am
- Travel the world with me
- Try new things
- Accept my faults


.. blah blah.. You know.. all the qualities that girls who are interested in me dont seem to have..

[Lemina]

I would love to be with a guy who can always make me smile and feel good about myself. Just someone who I can enjoy myself with. I think friendship between us is the most important thing if we want to consider going into a relationship. Someone who I don't have to feel pressured talking too, and we can click so easily. Hygiene is important because it shows what kind of guy he is, but it's personality that attracts me the most.

[Tiiba]

^2 Shallow.

The first thing that catches my eye is hair. I prefer brunettes.

Edit: Only now have I realized that I called the wrong person shallow. My apologies, Char.
So, in your opinion, "T&A" is shallow, and "eyes and smile" are DEEP. Even though they can both hide a cruel soul.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

So, in your opinion, "T&A" is shallow, and "eyes and smile" are DEEP. Even though they can both hide a cruel soul.

But at least you can grab on some T and slap an A, if you do either to eyes or a smile you'll get a restraining order

[Bernard_Monsha]

When u are looking at a member of the oppisite sex, what turns u on. Please dont just say boobs and A$$. I am a male, I look for eyes and abs. How about the rest of u AN???


Two words Happy Trail.

[SDAnimeFan]

Someone who would love me for who I am.

[animegurl]

I look for a nice personality, loving, caring, smart, spontaneous, gorgeous eyes, and who will love me, for me. ^^ he has to be able to make me laugh too. ^^

[Shibari]

Let's see if I can remember my response from the last time this thread rolled around...

The number one, absolutely most important thing is that the girl has to be intelligent. Not necessarily genius level, but she has to be able to carry on a reasonably intelligent discussion. I've dated a couple of stupid girls before (briefly) and it was unbearable. She would need to be kind and caring, but not a doormat. Not religious. Oh, and not insane!

Physically, I'm attracted to clear, light skin, and dark hair. Added points if the hair is very long. Blue or gray eyes are definitely a plus too. Body type isn't that important, as long as it isn't extreme. No whales or sticks, please.

Fortunately for me, I've already found a girl who meets all of these requirements perfectly. And I'm not just typing that because she's reading this over my shoulder. :P

[Nano]

I'm all that and a bag of chips, except i have a temper and i go on rants about things that annoy me.

[CrossboneGundam]

Honestly, I don't think anyone knows what qualities would make for their ideal mate. But since I'm posting already, I might as well just mention the fundamentals of what I find attractive in a woman: Intelligent, articulate, confident, opinionated, sexually aggressive and open-minded.

And I've said it before, so I'll say it again: I'll be honest. Looks do matter to me. I'd like to aim for the top half of the population.

[Rain]

And I've said it before, so I'll say it again: I'll be honest. Looks do matter to me. I'd like to aim for the top half of the population.

Omg, that post seriously made me laugh. o.o I know you're being serious though, or are you?

[Holy Knight]

Omg, that post seriously made me laugh. o.o I know you're being serious though, or are you?

It's interesting, but humans are half and half in many things. I.e. Half the population is male and female, left brained and right brained, etc. As stated earlier, even IQ is separated in that way. So aiming for the top half is aiming for the better half. ;)

[nameo9876]

I'm pretty similar to Crossbone. I would also want someone who would make me want to improve myself every day.

[Hunter_Z]

Let's see.....

I like my girls small (talking 5'6" on down). Usually the first thing I notice is the eyes (I'm a sucker for green eyes), then whole face, then the rest of the body. Gotta have a little meat on her bones.

Personality wise, she's gotta have a sense of humor and also be open-minded. Also, having some of the same interests as me helps. Lady in the street but a freak in the bed is a definite plus.

Oh and before I forget.....tits and a**.

[MirKz]

hrmm id say..
I love brunettes and black haired women, more than I do blondes (I have no idea why lots of girls want to dye their hair blonde etc?) oh and i prefer LONG hair.. but not a necessity.
I LOVE eyes... deep blues are nice, but I dont mind any other colour really.
face also, has to have a cuteness an be attractive to me of course...

Body wise... Id say has to have a nice figure (i've been with someone who was a 'little' larger than norm and after being with someone who had a great figure afterwards, I prefer the nicer figure)... although this isnt to say I wouldnt date a 'bigger' girl again. Its just a preference.
tits and *** is all well and good, but I'm not shallow enough to be with someone or NOT be with them just for the size of their assets.

She has to have a head on heir shoulders.. be reasonably smart, not a complete ditz as it starts to irritate me after a while. has to have a great personality also

[Orchid]

She has to be into decent music, and be relatively smart. I like talking to my women. She doesn't have to have any special features or looks. As long as she accepts me for what I am and sticks by my side through thick and thin, I'm happy.

[guessWho]

I like that feeling of warm breath as it rolls across my chest and i like it when thin strips of morning light illuminate her messy hair.

sloppy and elegant
intuitive and multi-dimensional in her thoughts
creative and sleepy
in bed while its raining or walking in the forest --- two favourite locales

and i wouldn't want to share her with anyone else, which is selfish...

[VidelCoolGirl]

Ah Music. See, with that, everyone has their own taste of what decent music is. What you're saying is you want her to be into the music you like, not what she thinks is good. Which is why I've always hated when people use the term, "Good Music."

[Suiko Eiji]

Ah Music. See, with that, everyone has their own taste of what dcent music is. What you're saying is you want her to be into the music you like, not what she thinks is good. Which is why I've always hated when people use the term, "Good Music."

Well said. Take myself and my most recent ex; we had completely different music tastes. She likes the modern "punk" they play on the radio; I like the more classic stuff like The Clash. She likes a lot of the 90s alternitive rock, which I didn't mind at all but she couldn't get into my classic rock and 80s stuff. I didn't even get her started on my Japanese collection; me never on her boy band obsessions. Fortunately, music was not a priority on either of our lists and I could get into some of the stuff she liked, some of it more grudgingly than other. I never forced her to like my music.

I understand that if music is extremely important to you that you have to have someone who either A) has the same tastes or B) doesn't automatically hate you for it. To me, it seems a little more shallow than the T&A group but then again, music was never high on the list.

Meant to post this earlier:




Sense of Humour...a queer sense of humour. I'm not really into stiff people, and well, stiff people aren't into me, really.
Brains...kinda. Common sense...of course. Smart guys are nice...as long they don't get carried away with it. I guess I could stand someone smarter than me...not signicantly dumber, though.
Nice boys. Not doormat nice, a-kissing nice, but still...nice. Normal niceness.
No punks. I don't mind crying boys...sorta cute. Like, Titanic-watching crying is precious (hmm, then again...). Anywho, if someone threatens to kick your ***, you'd better not cry about it. Fight back/Or Don't Fight Back, but you take that friggin' beating like a man. Ooh, and when they're kicking your ***, ask for more. :lol: Dead serious.
Nice (or average) teeth. No grills. No Platinum, No Diamonds (but it's oh so shiny), No Gold. No Sharp Sharky teeth. No Missing Front Teeth. Oh God, No Really Yellow Teeth. Chips...maybe. Overbite...tolerable. Underbite...well, I'd nickname him Somethin' Bulldog. What?
Body. I like skinny guys. Don't really mind fat guys (especially the cuddly Teddy Bear kind). Muscular guys...*Quack* :lol: But, no extreme cases. No So Massive that I can't roll my huge *** out of bed. No So Built that I'm able to flex my Butt Cheeks...that chest bouncy thingy is kinda cute, though. Skinny...it has to be a healthy-looking sknny. Not Crack Addict skinny.
Honestly, though. I want someone that is able to accept all of me. Meaning, I'm huger than a friggin' Blue Whale, and I enjoy riding on people's backs. :lol: Yeah...joking. Um, seriously, a lot of people get annoyed by my corny jokes, childish antics, supervillain/witchy laugh, Quacking, love of tackling/wrestling. Don't try to dissect me, and we'll be fine.

Hmm...
1 - Check; strange humor but always the cut up.
2 - Check
3 - Check; been told I'm an absolute sweetheart
4 - Check; like classic punk though
5 - Probably need to be cleaned, but not deformed: Check
6 - Very teddy bear check

[Chikyuu Senshi]

I want a man I can talk to. I never want to have a moment where I feel like I have to search for something to talk about. I really hate people who can't carry a conversation. Intelligence has always been a large portion of what I look for in the opposite sex, as well as level of education. I love having intelligent conversations and light debates. I'm not particularly picky when it comes to looks, but I have learned to become more and more choosy in that department. Basically, I look at facial appearance. Weight isn't that important, but anything over 200 lbs is a bit much.

[Midoriko87]

Meant to post this earlier:

Hmm...
1 - Check; strange humor but always the cut up.
2 - Check
3 - Check; been told I'm an absolute sweetheart
4 - Check; like classic punk though
5 - Probably need to be cleaned, but not deformed: Check
6 - Very teddy bear check

1 - Strange humour is the best kind.
2 - I always knew you were a little smartass.
3 - Been told? Well, I've been told that I'm a superb comedienne, but that didn't stop me from getting booed (?) off stage during Open Mic night at that comedy club, now did it! Still, I have this killer joke. "Two penguins are vacationing in Japan, and they walk into a bar. Jim Carrey is the bartender..."
4 - Classic punk? Are you like a Greaser with a Ducktail and a switchblade? Very Cool!
5 - Hmm, are you a natural Georgian?
6 - Oh Gosh, would you dress-up in an overall Bunny suit for me?!!! You know, the ones with the feet and the mitts and the bunny ears? Ooh, while singing "The Three Little Kittens"? Shucks, I'd love you so much!

Yup, I'd marry you in a split second. Of course, you'd have to take my last name. It and I have been together for 18 years, what kind of monster would even consider tearing us apart?!

I want a man I can talk to. I never want to have a moment where I feel like I have to search for something to talk about. I really hate people who can't carry a conversation.

Aargh! I hate the awkward Silence! I'll start talking about everything and nothing to break it.

[Evil_Koala]

I look for Dancin' Skillz.

[VidelCoolGirl]

Dancin' Skillz that heat the grills is also something that is up on my list. What if somebody tries to serve you on a date? You gotta tag yo' man....

[Evil_Koala]

Dancin' Skillz that heat the grills is also something that is up on my list. What if somebody tries to serve you on a date? You gotta tag yo' man....

Yup...*thinks of You Got Served South Park episode* :lol: *line dances* X3

[sailornyanko]

I'm personally not looking, I'm not in the mood to have anything serious right now (maybe never).

I think what I'd want the most is a guy I personally feel like I can trust him with anything . I have a seriously hard time expressing my ideas and feelings verbally to people. Most people that know me in person don't know much about me at all really.

This automatically takes away almost the entire eligible population so it kinda makes things harder when I'm also looking for other things.

Another big no no is that I'd have a hard time dating a guy that smokes cigarrettes. I can't stand the smell, it makes me want to cough and makes me feel nausea. I'd tolerate it if he smoked at the job and washed his mouth afterwards. I find smoking to be such a dirty habit. Don't like it. This criteria alone takes away most mexicans since most people here are cigarrette addicts.

I'm open to racial and other looks as long as the person isn't like obese or anorexic skinny. I prefer athletic bodies. I think I'd get along with a guy that likes sports. Doesn't even have to know or lie figure skating. Maybe he could like a sport I've never dreamed of liking (like golf) and kinda get me into it or something. I don't know how I'd feel like dating a guy shorter than me. But then he'd have to be awfully short (less than 5 feet tall) for this. Frankly I don't know how I'd manage dating a really tall guy. My older sister is a bit shorter than me and her b/f is VERY tall. It's so funny to see the height difference.

Of physical features I personally like dark brown eyes but it's not obligatory.

I don't think it would be necesairy for us to have the exact same hobbies, but that we can still have fun doing them together. I would enjoy a guy that would play board games with. I don't know anyone who likes playing board games. I think I'd fnd any guy willing to play Risk with me to be irresistible.

I think another thing I'd strongly look for is someone who respects my need for independancy. I'd actually almost BEG him to have his weekly poker nights with his pals. Heck, have two Poker nights each week if you want.

I wouldn't date married men or men that would beat me or stuff. But again, a man following this no no here would fail my most wanted assest in a guy: Trust. I don't know how I'd deal with cheating. I'd think I'd rather have the guy say from the start say he has someone else and that she'd know about me or something. I don't know, it would be too much to have a third person around. And I'm so not lesbian.

He'd have to love and appreciate animals. I don't think I could be with a guy that purposely mistreats animals. I think I'd have a lot of problems with someone who loves horrid things like bullfighting and **** fights.

Another important thing for me if what is his position on children if things get serious. I don't want having my own children (I'd only consider adopting a child that's over 10 years old). I guess it would be acceptable if he already had an older child or a young teenager.

I hate cheapskate men. I've already met a guy like this (a schoolmate, fortunately I'd never fall in love with a guy like him.. I hope). I think many things about the feminist movement should be applied more and I wouldn't mind paying for the dinner. However this guy I was with, he was the worst. He had more than enough money to invite me doughnuts when I didn't have any money and still he only bought for himself letting me watch how he ate everything. To put cream on the top he was leaning towards the chubby side of the scale too. He sure didn't need all that food. I don't have that kind of patience.

I would enjoy a guy that can cook and wouldn't mind teaching me stuff since I never learned how to cook.

I like nice, but not too uber lovey dovey nice either.

I'd tolerate a guy who's close with his family and enjoys visting them (quite the opposite of me where I only visit most of my relatives on XMAS and even then we don't talk much), just that again, I like my distance from people and don't think I'd tolerate living in the family mansion with 5 other young couples everywhere. No no no.

It's not obligatory, but I tend to be more attracted to people that don't have good families and get along with them. I dunno, I just can't understand what's the big obsession with so many people about how family is so important and that you must stay united always and stuff like that. *shudders* I told ya' I don't get along well with most of my relatives. I don't have Romeo + Juliet type feuds, I'm just rather cold and distant with them. I only have 1 relative who's close to my age (a nephew who's 1 ear older than me) and I only saw him for 5 minutes once in my life. I don't even remember his name anymore. My family mostly has old people and it's numerically very scarce.

But again, with demands like these, I don't think there's a lot of men that are around my age that follow the criteria. And since I'm not particularly looking for anyone right now, it's even less probable a cute guy will appear out of nowhere and ask me for a date and doesn't mind how weird and rude I am and my life's history and such. Bah, people like me generally stay single forever.

[Suiko Eiji]

1 - Strange humour is the best kind.
2 - I always knew you were a little smartass.
3 - Been told? Well, I've been told that I'm a superb comedienne, but that didn't stop me from getting booed (?) off stage during Open Mic night at that comedy club, now did it! Still, I have this killer joke. "Two penguins are vacationing in Japan, and they walk into a bar. Jim Carrey is the bartender..."
4 - Classic punk? Are you like a Greaser with a Ducktail and a switchblade? Very Cool!
5 - Hmm, are you a natural Georgian?
6 - Oh Gosh, would you dress-up in an overall Bunny suit for me?!!! You know, the ones with the feet and the mitts and the bunny ears? Ooh, while singing "The Three Little Kittens"? Shucks, I'd love you so much!

Yup, I'd marry you in a split second. Of course, you'd have to take my last name. It and I have been together for 18 years, what kind of monster would even consider tearing us apart?!


1 - Indeed it is.
2 - Yeah, it tends to run in the family but at odd patterns
3 - Two penguins are sitting on an iceberg and one falls into the ocean. What do you have? Chocolate Milk.
4 - More like I like listening to The Clash and Sex Pistols at my desk while I'm working (especially when accounts payable is brought into the mix). I've nver really been a fan of the way punks dress. Switchblade is always an option though...
5 - No, I'm a part of that nearly half of Metro Atlanta that isn't. I like it enough here that's I've not left after thirteen years though.
6 - It'd take some commitment but I wouldn't put it out of the question.

I've been with my last name for 23 years, what makes you think I want to leave it. Eh, if it's bad-*** enough, I'll hyphenate it.

[Sendo Takeshi]

The girl that meets my criteria is married.

But thankfully things are going sour in that marriage as we speak. So heres hoping cause if not I'm gonna have to put in overtime.

[Leader Desslock]

I think what I'd want the most is a guy I personally feel like I can trust him with anything
*check* (bonus points for completely understanding what you mean there)

Another big no no is that I'd have a hard time dating a guy that smokes cigarrettes.
*check*

I prefer athletic bodies.
*check* I'm a cyclist.

Doesn't even have to know or lie figure skating.
*check* Skating's fun to watch, and I ice skate myself, albeit badly.

I don't know how I'd manage dating a really tall guy.
You'd do fine. ;-)

I personally like dark brown eyes
*check* Mixed with green, but mostly brown.

I think I'd fnd any guy willing to play Risk with me to be irresistible.
*check* You'd probably hate my RISK strategy, but it's always a fun game. I also hold my own on a chess board, and I'd skunk you at Cribbage.

I think another thing I'd strongly look for is someone who respects my need for independancy.
*double check*

I wouldn't date married men
*check* No ring here.

... or men that would beat me or stuff.
*check* I've been known to intervene when women I don't even know are being verbally abused. I've directly intervened in cases of physical abuse, and if there's one thing I really can't abide in this world, it's an abusive partner. <battle aura flares> It's one of the very few triggers my temper has.

I don't know, it would be too much to have a third person around.
*check* I don't like to be outnumbered myself. :-)

He'd have to love and appreciate animals.
*check* <pats the purring cat at his feet>

I think I'd have a lot of problems with someone who loves horrid things like bullfighting
*check* I think bullfighting might be a sport if the matador went in alone and defeated the bull quickly with his own two hands on behalf of the local butcher shop. All this frilly strutting about with capes and swords is an embarassment to the human species, in my opinion.

Another important thing for me if what is his position on children if things get serious. I don't want having my own children (I'd only consider adopting a child that's over 10 years old).
*check* Fine with that, but I know better than to put much stock in what anyone says before they're married and decide to start a family. Far too many people say, "I'd never have children" or "I'll adopt", only to fall absolutely in love with the concept of having their own biological children. It's a decision to be made based on circumstances and feelings at the time, and a blessing no matter how it comes about. I'll leave it at that.

I guess it would be acceptable if he already had an older child or a young teenager.
*check* Nope. Two cats, both in their low teens.

I hate cheapskate men.
*check* Me too. I don't waste money, but I do enjoy it.

I would enjoy a guy that can cook and wouldn't mind teaching me stuff since I never learned how to cook.
*triple-check* Cooking with someone is one of the things I enjoy the most.

I like nice, but not too uber lovey dovey nice either.
*check*

I'd tolerate a guy who's close with his family...just that again, I like my distance from people
*check* and *check* No family compounds here.

<assumes Kuno-esque pose>
<starts to run up to sailornyanko in preparation for a glomp>
"Sailornyanko! I would da...."

...with demands like these, I don't think there's a lot of men that are around my age that follow the criteria.

<facefaults into the ground, sliding past sailornyanko in a cloud of dust>
Sailornyanko: "Huh? What was that?"


Okay - that was more involved than I'd intended to get for a simple Takahashi joke, but DANG, you have a lot of criteria! Picky, picky, picky... :lol:

Bah, people like me generally stay single forever.
Eh, you'd be amazed. Life takes funny turns. You could find your soulmate and love of your life tomorrow. You never know. It's not worth worrying about in any event. If it happens, it happens. It's comforting to know there's someone else out there worth waiting for the right one, however. :thumbsup:

[Nano]

what about the "fox and goose"? thats a fun game for everybody:lol:

[Ken-Ohki]

Physical traits eh? I'm a huge sucker for long hair. I also love redheads with green eyes (first true girlfriend had red hair and green eyes, never stopped loving her really). Thin, like very thin, a lot has to do with the fact that I'm 120 lds and just feel odd with a girl larger then me. I like legs more then breasts, in fact a flat chested long legged girl is really nice ^_^

When I responded I had only read the first page. Now I think I'll elaborate on what I'm looking for.

I want a girl who's independent, who can think and act for herself, you know, a girl that gets an education and thinks of her future and what she wants to do for herself in life and sets out to fulfill it. I've known too many girls that simply want to marry so they can get out of having to learn or work. I've also known and unfortunately dated girls that want to play all the time and though that's fun, that wouldn't get us past our first kid.

I want a girl who wants a family, I see no point in marrying someone without wanting to raise children and those 9 months of pregnancy would be so sexy :D

I want a girl who shares the same, or at least an interest in, the things I'm passionate about, the arts and sciences. Someone who's willing to hang out down at the natural history museum for 6 hours or walk around the Dinosaur Museum down the road (which claims to be the largest dinosaur museum in the world, at least Utah has SOMETHING going for it).

I don't mind hiking and love the scenery, especially seeing the geology of a place, I love geology. I'm not a sports minded kid though, don't expect me to play basketball, soccer, football, or any other such thing. The closest thing to a sport you'll ever get me to do would be video football, and then I'd need to be VERY bored. Plus I have no sports games and don't watch any sport, though I was asked out on a date where I ended up watching half an hour of a hockey game once.

I mostly mostly mostly want a girl that makes me want to be a better person. I can't describe what in a girl makes me want that so I suppose the best I can say is there needs to be a spiritual connection, one that makes me want to improve myself for her sake. That's all I can say.

[getter77]

Bah, I'm in no circumstances to deal with the female drama for possibly months...years...to come. Still:

-Somebody I can get along with and trust. Ability to understand and support me on account of my strange circumstances is a huge one.
-Generally healthy, clean body. (Missing an Arm? No problem..)
-Somebody who knows that mindgames are ultimately a waste of everybody's time.
-Attractive from my vantage point.
-Some common interests would be nice. Support of interests is key though regardless.
-No cheaters, racists, crazed fundamentalists, or jerks.
-Big on lifelong commitment.

Perhaps I'll one day be able to go on a date...maybe. I'm 21 yet so far behind compared to my compatriots who were getting laid in the 4th/5th grade. -_-

[Oburi]

Extreme fidelity! Why do so many girls not value this anymore??

[Suiko Eiji]

Extreme fidelity! Why do so many girls not value this anymore??

Actually, I think they do. But I think it's kinda bad when you're "written" standards include faithfulness.

What I am trying to get at is that I think it's largely an unspoken rule that once a couple is serious, fiedelity is expected.

[Nano]

That's fidelity.
I'm not having a go just a friendly helping hand.

[Atreides]

What I look for is honesty, a woman who knows what it means to live her life in a manner which is consistent with what she say's she believes...ambition, someone who lives a purpose-driven life, someone who is open-minded yet someone who also possesses moral acumen, someone who would never run away from the truth and someone who is very intelligent. She would also have to be someone who isn't afraid of or would never run away from change. Also, any woman who smokes, drinks or uses drugs doesn't have a chance with me. Those are all deal-breakers for me. Oh yes, she has to want kids at some point (I'd like a large family someday).

As for looks...ideally I like large, natural breasts, tall women with straight, jet-black hair and blue eyes, white white skin, wide hips and a thin build. Appearance is definitely not the most important thing but I think looks should come first. But basically, as long as she 1) knows how to take care of herself and 2) has moderately wide hips (sorry if this is shallow, but I kind of need this) then I'm all set...

[Rain]

Also, any woman who smokes, drinks or uses drugs doesn't have a chance with me. Those are all deal-breakers for me. Oh yes, she has to want kids at some point (I'd like a large family someday).



Smoking is disgusting, ever kissed anyone who just got off a smoke? It's like kissing an ash tray, just much worse 'cause you can mix in the bad breath and what not. o.o Aww, does that mean you'll reject someone you love just 'cause she doesn't want kids?

[Kaida]

Agreed. Smoking is gross!

Anyway, I like intelligence [like genius-ness; You know, makes for informative and interesting conversation], humor, sharp wit, courage, understanding, and devotion. Fashion sense is a huge PLUS! lol

[Atreides]

Smoking is disgusting, ever kissed anyone who just got off a smoke? It's like kissing an ash tray, just much worse 'cause you can mix in the bad breath and what not. o.o Aww, does that mean you'll reject someone you love just 'cause she doesn't want kids?

Ugh! Anyone who just got off a smoke wouldn't be allowed to get that close to me. And weellll... if she didn't want kids I wouldn't REJECT her but I'm afraid a long-term relationship just wouldn't work. Kids would at least have to be a conceivable option in the future...!

[newtyped]

When u are looking at a member of the oppisite sex, what turns u on. Please dont just say boobs and A$$. I am a male, I look for eyes and abs. How about the rest of u AN???
boob, *** AND a pretty face

[Rain]

boob, *** AND a pretty face

Only one boob? :(

[Japhyl]

Only one boob? :(

ROFL :lol:

[Suiko Eiji]

Smoking is disgusting, ever kissed anyone who just got off a smoke? It's like kissing an ash tray, just much worse 'cause you can mix in the bad breath and what not. o.o

Even as a smoker, I understand this. When I'm dating, and there's possible lip action, I stay away from the cigarrettes and always make sure that my teeth are scrubbed extra hard and I take a couple of extra mints. And for most of the smokers I know, this tends to be a general rule.

[Leader Desslock]

Even as a smoker, I understand this. When I'm dating, and there's possible lip action, I stay away from the cigarrettes and always make sure that my teeth are scrubbed extra hard and I take a couple of extra mints. And for most of the smokers I know, this tends to be a general rule.
Just to let you (and maybe your fellow smokers) know, that has about zero effect. Seriously. It's not in your teeth, and it can't be covered up by mints. Kissing a smoker who's scrubbed their teeth and taken a mint tastes like a minty-fresh ashtray, rather than a standard ashtray.

The chemicals you put in your body from smoking STAY there long, long after you've actually had a cigarette. Think about when someone you know goes to a real Italian restaurant and has a huge dish with lots of fresh garlic - it stays in their system for days, right? You can literally smell the garlic on them for days - even after they shower, brush their teeth, gargle with mouthwash, etc. They smell like garlic until it works out of their system. For a Pepperoni & Garlic Pizza from Napoli's Pizza on State Street in Bangor, Maine, that used to be about 3 days.

Smoking's the same. A non-smoker can smell (and especially taste) the smoking "smell" on you for many, many days after you've had a cigarette, no matter how much you scrub yourself on the outside. You'd have to quit smoking for a couple of weeks to diminish that. Not to mention fumigate the area where you keep all of your belongings, completely launder all of your clothes after you quit, etc.

Of course, I understand if YOU can't smell it. If it's in your system, you wouldn't be able to smell it any more than the person who ate garlic can smell that on himself. I've dated women who smoke. I can get used to it, but it's hardly pleasant, and it never goes away.

Just an FYI.

[Soluzar]

Only one boob? :(

You know how they say guys are only interested in one thing? Well, it's not a figure of speech. Just the one. The other one's just like a spare, or something. :P

[Suiko Eiji]

@LD

I suppose it really depends on the person then. My most recent girlfriend was a non-smoker and so long as I "kept clean" (as I stated above), it wasn't an issue. I suppose with how often one smokes depends, too. I may have a binge when I am drinking at a party, or when I go to Vegas, but on average I only have a couple of cigarettes while I am at work and school. Sure, it'd be easier to pick up on me than a non-smoker, but nothing like someone who smokes a pack in a couple of days or smokes heavier.

[Leader Desslock]

I suppose it really depends on the person then. My most recent girlfriend was a non-smoker and so long as I "kept clean" (as I stated above), it wasn't an issue...
Perhaps. Or maybe she was just acknowledging the effort on your part, even though she could still smell/taste it. I'm not being critical, I honestly think that's more likely, based on my own experiences and those of other non-smokers. I can tolerate it, but it really is that powerful a smell.

A few cigarettes a day is less pungent than a pack a day, obviously. My point wasn't that one cigarette a month immediately turned a person into a walking ashtray. My point was that if you're smoking enough that it can be smelled on you (or you're eating enough garlic that it can be smelled on you), then no amount of mints or brushing your teeth was going to make it go away. No amount of cologne or perfume will covere it. It's in your system at that point, and the smell is always there underneath it. Just like garlic. That doesn't mean we shouldn't eat garlic, it's just that eating garlic has certain consequences. So does smoking.

You want to smoke, fine. I was just giving you the FYI that non-smokers can very likely smell something on you that you yourself are unable to detect.

[Suiko Eiji]

Oh, I wasn't arguing that I was making it invisible or erasing all traces, but more that I understand they [non-smokers] can smell it; merely trying to make it less of an issue. Thanks for the tip anyway.

[Rain]

You know how they say guys are only interested in one thing? Well, it's not a figure of speech. Just the one. The other one's just like a spare, or something. :P

I think you're right... :lol:

[Shiroiyuki]

Well look what I found ^_^.

My ideal man:

Intelligent, wise, worldly, up for a debate at a moment's notice--but NOT overly cocky and/or arrogant. Men who think women are just there for their enjoyment/entertainment make me sick. If he can't appreciate me for who I am and what I stand for--then I don't think I'd want to waste my time with him. I like a man who cares enough to listen to me, to really care about what I'm saying and where I'm coming from, and not just tune me out and pretend to hear. Even if we disagree—at least I would know he cared enough to hear me out. I’m not saying I’d pick fights (I'm laid back most of the time), but if I disagree with something I would stand up for what I believe in. I've lived for too long with men who act like women are 'slaves' and should be treated like inferior creatures without minds or opinions. I have opinions--some are very strong at that. If I can't say what I'm thinking or feeling then what is the use of even dating? I'd rather be alone; at least I know I care about what I'm thinking.

I want a man who has the ability to talk to me, have a real conversation--hold his own and express himself just as strongly as I do myself. If I ask him something important, I want a response; not just an ‘I don’t know, don’t bother me right now’ brush off. It really frustrates me when I can't talk to a guy because they aren't equipped with an opinion.

We'd have to have similar interests of course, but I'm up to challenges and new ideas as well. If he knew of something I didn't happen to be familiar with, I'd certainly be open to learning something new ^_^. Heck, I love learning—so any information I can get is appreciated!

I don’t like smokers—or drunks. Well, my family consists of drunken, chain-smoking bums so I really have a negative outlook on the lifestyle. I wouldn’t mind if he drank on occasion (I enjoy it sparingly—damn gall bladder), but if he came home smashed every night and verbally (or physically) abused me—that would be the end of the relationship. I don’t care if he matched all other criteria; he hits me, he is done. I know what abuse is—I know it well. I would never, EVER want to spend the rest of my life living that hell everyday.

As far as physical appearances go, I wouldn’t mind a handsome man. But, my version of ‘handsome’ isn’t what you might expect. I like dark hair, dark eyes (brown and otherwise), but I’m normally attracted to geeky-band-I’m-a-nerd-who-knows-quotes-from-The-Holy-Grail type guys more often than not ^_^. I don’t know what it is about them, but they are usually the ones I fall for. *Shrugs* we all have our quirks, mine just happens to be going for boys no one else seems to go for. Tall men are nice (I over compensate, I know...), and men with decent bodies are also a nice perk :P. I’m not vain person (I just sort of roll out of bed most days....pull clothing off hangers in a blind fashion, and put together an ensemble of out of date and out of style clothing (that never matches my shoes for some reason). I’m a low-key type...don’t need much to impress me, besides wit and a sense of humor—WHICH BRINGS ME TO MY NEXT TOPIC:

Any man who wants to stand ANY sort of chance with me, NEEDS A SENSE OF HUMOR!!! I cannot stress this enough! I need someone who can make me laugh—and who can laugh themselves! I love comedy movies (even the really stupid ones), and if he is all ‘macho-serious-guy’ we won’t be getting along very well @_@. Make me laugh, that is the way to my heart!

Wow....that list went a little longer then planned. I hope I'm not...*gulp* setting my limits too high. UGH, at this rate I'll never find someone compatible *shakes fist*

[MagicianCamille]

Shiroi, you should have saved yourself a lot of time and just said "Desslock."

Camille's ideal woman is Mel.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

Well look what I found ^_^.

My ideal man:

Intelligent, wise, worldly, up for a debate at a moment's notice--but NOT overly cocky and/or arrogant. Men who think women are just there for their enjoyment/entertainment make me sick. If he can't appreciate me for who I am and what I stand for--then I don't think I'd want to waste my time with him. I like a man who cares enough to listen to me, to really care about what I'm saying and where I'm coming from, and not just tune me out and pretend to hear. Even if we disagree—at least I would know he cared enough to hear me out. I’m not saying I’d pick fights (I'm laid back most of the time), but if I disagree with something I would stand up for what I believe in. I've lived for too long with men who act like women are 'slaves' and should be treated like inferior creatures without minds or opinions. I have opinions--some are very strong at that. If I can't say what I'm thinking or feeling then what is the use of even dating? I'd rather be alone; at least I know I care about what I'm thinking.

I want a man who has the ability to talk to me, have a real conversation--hold his own and expresses himself just as strongly as I do myself. If I ask him something important, I want a response; not just an ‘I don’t know, don’t bother me right now’ brush off. It really frustrates me when I can't talk to a guy because they aren't equipped with an opinion.

We'd have to have similar interests of course, but I'm up to challenges and new ideas as well. If he knew of something I didn't happen to be familiar with, I'd certainly be open to learning something new ^_^. Heck, I love learning—so any information I can get is appreciated!

I don’t like smokers—or drunks. Well, my family consists of drunken, chain-smoking bums so I really have a negative outlook on the lifestyle. I wouldn’t mind if he drank on occasion (I enjoy it sparingly—damn gall bladder), but if he came home smashed every night and verbally (or physically) abused me—that would be the end of the relationship. I don’t care if he matched all other criteria; he hits me, he is done. I know what abuse is—I know it well. I would never, EVER want to spend the rest of my life living that hell everyday.

As far as physical appearances go, I wouldn’t mind a handsome man. But, my version of ‘handsome’ isn’t what you might expect. I like dark hair, dark eyes (brown and otherwise), but I’m normally attracted to geeky-band-I’m-a-nerd-who-knows-quotes-from-The-Holy-Grail type guys more often than not ^_^. I don’t know what it is about them, but they are usually the ones I fall for. *Shrugs* we all have our quirks, mine just happens to be going for boys no one else seems to go for. Tall men are nice (I over compensate, I know...), and men with decent bodies are also a nice perk :P. I’m not vain person (I just sort of roll out of bed most days....pull clothing off hangers in a blind fashion, and put together an ensemble of out of date and out of style clothing (that never matches my shoes for some reason). I’m a low-key type...don’t need much to impress me, besides wit and a sense of humor—WHICH BRINGS ME TO MY NEXT TOPIC:

Any man who wants to stand ANY sort of chance with me, NEEDS A SENSE OF HUMOR!!! I cannot stress this enough! I need someone who can make me laugh—and who can laugh themselves! I love comedy movies (even the really stupid ones), and if he is all ‘macho-serious-guy’ we won’t be getting along very well @_@. Make me laugh, that is the way to my heart!

Wow....that list went a little longer then planned. I hope I'm not...*gulp* setting my limits too high. UGH, at this rate I'll never find someone compatible *shakes fist*

Your ideal man is ME.

[Solid_Snake]

Bewbies...

[Gannon]

Intelligence

Dess was always such a kidder :lol:.


On another note, my ideal woman would have to be Princess Zelda. I mean, the situation is perfect. Every once in a while we both come with an elaborate "kidnapping" ruse, giving me ample time to bone her. Her stupid boyfriend doesn't know what hit him, going off in search of the princess even though she submitted herself to me voluntarily. And just before I get bored with her, he finds her and takes her back home until I'm in the mood again. Foolish Link, he never figures out how I always "mysteriously" end up with Zelda's peice of the Tri-Force.

Well, at least he's not as bad as Mario: he still hasn't figured how Bowser went from a kidnapping Bachleor to a father of eight-- in just one sequel.

[Solid_Snake]

I still don't know why, to this day, you decided to miss spell 'Ganon.'

It's always been wierd to me.

[SangoStrummer]

Only one boob? :(

It's obvious that boob is already pluralized like deer and sheep :P

Hmm..what I look for in the opposite sex is, an in numerical sequence of importance.

1.) Intelligence. Literacy is a very attractive quality, along with coherency of course.
2.) Sense of humor. I need a guy who's as..quirky as I am. Okay okay...as odd as I am ^^;; A guy who can make me laugh.
3.) Physical features..dark hair, dark eyes, an a pouty bottom lip to nibble on..uh..I mean, a nice smile >.>

But above all else, the absolute most important thing is how I feel about me when we're together. I don't want to be an afterthought. Something to pull out of the toybox to play with when he's bored. I want a full partnership of love, trust, and repect.

I also want someone who challenges me at every turn, makes me think.
Oh, and be as competative as I am. I love any kind of game under the sun. With the exception of Monopoly. Can't win it won't, won't play it. Don't ask v.v. And he can't be a sore loser. He'll just have to get used to never winning against me :P

[Suiko Eiji]

Shiroi, you should have saved yourself a lot of time and just said "Desslock."


If she can get over the age difference, you mean.

...diatribe...

I don't mean this to pick on you; I mean this to pick on everyone whom has these sorts of standards, which I suppose means most women between the ages of teens and twenties - how many guys get turned down because, while they might meet criteria, they may not have that certain flare of immediate attraction? All too often I see decent girls in this age group get all twisted around this guy, who in reality has none of those qualities they desired, and then get all torn up when he becomes a complete and total @$$hat. I'm bad about immediately judging some people's personal qualities, but if I can see it this from a mile away ...

Another thing I've found - and it's only been through friendships I've seen this first hand without a negative reaction - I hear girls talk about "I want a man who can share his thoughts and opinions..." but very rarely is it that a girl has been intrigued by thoughts and opinions that differ from her own they want to hear. A good friend of mine at University and his current girlfriend are going through something similar and I've been witness to one or two altercations - from the third party perspective, it's mildly humorous, but its grueling for the two of them.

You know, I'm not sure what's made me this ornery this morning; just that your expectations/desires rubbed me the wrong way. My characterization may not have been fair to you, or anyone else with similar tastes on this forum; I've only seen it happen in real life and I felt that I should throw that out as food for thought.

[kiyomi]

Well, Suikosan, I for one would really and truly love to have a man that can treat a woman right. Not in material things..but more in consideration, thoughtfulness and respect. Yes, the old Aretha Franklin song lives strong and true in my heart.

I truly would rather have a man that looked like Frankenstein but had a heart of gold..than a buffed up air-headed underwear model that cannot add 2+2.

Yes, there are some women out there with very high standards..but all us women really want is for someone to treat us with the same respect and dignity that we would treat them.

Is that really too much to ask for?

To me..in my opinion, I don't think so.

[master terrence]

Humility and uniqueness are two standards of mine. I wouldn't want a girl who is all flashy and prissy. I wouldn't want a girl that came freshly packed out of the factory with the model number #90210. You know what I'm saying? This, I would consider part of my immediate attraction to a girl, because I am attracted to different things over the same old generic materials.

[Shiroiyuki]

how many guys get turned down because, while they might meet criteria, they may not have that certain flare of immediate attraction?

Well for starters, I try to give everyone a chance. If I meet a genuinely wonderful man--I'll hear him out. Even if he is butt-ugly, there might be some spark there based on the way he handles himself and the kindness emanating from his heart. I try my hardest not to judge others based on physical appearance alone. I'm not a drop-dead gorgeous person myself, so I'm not saying I'd snub any man who isn't Mr. Model. Actually, pretty boys make me mad (they are vainer than I am....and prettier too :P). I wasn't ranting by the way; I was merely trying to explain what I find attractive in the opposite sex, which was the topic of this thread. It wasn't an attack on all men--it was just me, telling what my ideal (as in perfect....and we all know no one is perfect) man would be like. I would settle for even half those traits if I found a guy I liked. Who got me and my strange personality.....

I hear girls talk about "I want a man who can share his thoughts and opinions..." but very rarely is it that a girl has been intrigued by thoughts and opinions that differ from her own they want to hear.

Well then I guess I'm one-of-a-kind. I'd rather have a conversation with someone and find out what they are thinking, than just sit there in a monotonous void. I'm always interested in what others have to say--why the hell else am I even here? I mean, if I wasn't interested in differing opinions, would I even venture into this forum? I probably wouldn't (or in the very least, I'd sit there and attack anyone who didn't share my sediments exactly). SHEEESSH, yes I put up a fight and defend myself at times (this being one of them), but I don't just sit there flaming everyone who doesn't believe in the same things as I do. I care enough to read through their post, and respond. Usually, my response isn't negative--unlike right at this moment, since you really cut me deeply here. I'm sorry, I know you said that you weren't attacking me personally, but it does certainly seem like you were.....

My characterization may not have been fair to you, or anyone else with similar tastes on this forum; I've only seen it happen in real life and I felt that I should throw that out as food for thought.

Well alright, it is out there. Others can read it and take it how they may. BUT, I did feel like I should defend myself, so don't be too mad at my words. I just felt like a clarification should be made on my behalf--since you obviously took it the wrong way.

[Rain]

Camille's ideal woman is Mel.

I like tannin' in the sun and drinkin' margaritas with my favorite magician~

[Leader Desslock]

David Blaine?

[Shiroiyuki]

David Copperfield

[master terrence]

David Blaine?


Bah. all he had was boring tricks

[f0rest]

Ah Music. See, with that, everyone has their own taste of what decent music is. What you're saying is you want her to be into the music you like, not what she thinks is good. Which is why I've always hated when people use the term, "Good Music."
Thank you! Music really doesn't make the individual, contrary to what many people I know believe. Although I have pretty eclectic tastes, so I can "endure" whatever they listen to much better than a hard-core <insert genre> fan. Bottom line, you're not in the relationship for their musical preference, you're in it for the person. :)

[mecegirl]

When I think about it there have only been two people that I have ever been in love with and they were pretty different. One was an extrovert and one was an introvert. What they really had in common was their drive. Their ability to know what they wanted and the determination to reach their goals. The first guy was a very open person. He had no problem expressing his feelings in fact he could never hide them. He was completely transparent and was happy about it. And after coming from an environment where I felt that I had to shut my self off in order to deal it was a refreshing experience.
Now that I am in college of course I have doubts about my career choice. The second guy is so into his profession. He is a strait A student and has been one his whole life but has decided to become an animator. He knows that it is what he wants to do in despite that fact that statistically he should be doing something else (I.E. doctor lawyer engineer) and he isn’t afraid to go for it.

In general it isn’t that there is something about a person that I am attracted to. I seem to fall for the person who has what I am subconsciously looking for in order to better myself.

[Aaluaine]

well looks dont really matter for me ..

i want a girl who is fun to be around .... sweet , sometimes can be agressive and basically ... a girl who you can hang out with ... like have fun with, that you dont have to go all out on her ... like you can be yourself around her and she would be easy to be around , as if she was your best friend and you could talk to her about anything and be all kinds of silly with her :P

of course respecting her as a woman , and basically someone who you could talk to almost naturally without any hesitation and that to about anything ^_^

and yes a chick who likes cars and anime !

[5YN-fitik]

- nice arms && a solid stomach (no beer bellies please!)
- a sense of humor;;
- "pleasant" to look at;;

[u_nick]

humongous boobs

[5YN-fitik]

i forgot to add that small penises are a turn-off.

[MagicianCamille]

i forgot to add that small penises are a turn-off.

So you ask every gentleman you meet to remove his pants before engaging in any sort of conversation?

[Spadesy]

^ That would be greatly funny though wouldn't it?

I'd settle with somebody that just accepts me the way I'd accept her.

...But if we're talking a perfect world -

Brown or black hair, neck length. Brown or green eyes, shorter than 5'10 (that's my height, you!) and healthy in figure. But she'd also have wit and a taste for the obscure. Actually, it's very important she likes weird stuff.

[sii]

I don't look for physical aspects in girls. Not to say I don't know when a girl is hot... But the appreciation I have for someone's beauty or physical aspects has nothing to do with "what kind of girl I want."

I think it is stupid to prepare lists like this. The girl I love didn't fit any "idea" I had of who I would end up with. It just happens that we shared a lifestyle, got together everyday for a while, talked, and then the rest happened... :)

Just someone chill. Someone who knows me well. This might sound weird, but I'm totally opposed to dating before friendship. It's the most illogical thing ever.

[kenshinbebop]

intelect
intelligence
at least some physical beauty
musical and/or likes music

[K3MONO]

Well Personnaly its a good amount physichal appearance. Not what you are probably thinking. Its mostly because if they dont care about themselves enough to stay in good shape... well its a turn off. Turn ons are strong oppinions and telling the truth.

[psychonaut]

I would look for how she smiles. then it would probably be her additude, and the way she moves. if its looks youre talking about then i would prefer brunette hair, bright green eyes, and she can't be extremly huge or anorexic, in between is alright.

[NGT]

Lets see... First thing is they have to have a good body, slim and curvey. Boob size doesn't matter that much. Pretty eyes, smile, hair. Dark colored hair and tan skin. An outgoing personalilty, be willing to try new things, kind,( There is nothing worse than a *****y girl who complains alot.) Also a girl being able to cook is a huge plus. Thats about it.

[Samurai Drifter]

I second the good body, slim and curvey part. As for boob size, not too small, but they don't have to be huge. As they said in Weird Science "more than a handful is a waste". I like mid length hair, and usually like blondes the best though that does have its exceptions.

( There is nothing worse than a *****y girl who complains alot.)
I agree completely. Another large turn off is bad breath, though that's probably true for everybody.

Let's see... personality wise, somebody who's intelligent and accepting. I wouldn't want the cheerleader who does what all her friends do to be "in". Someone independent, a free-thinker, who's well read. A touch of geekiness is always welcome too, though by no means required.

[Mooserocka]

WOW who brought this up from the grave. I started this i dont even remember how long ago. I think while i was still in japan. I look for a girl that just wants to hang out. Her looks would have to be short and petite. Thats how i like women short and petite.

[Shiroiyuki]

It just happens that we shared a lifestyle, got together everyday for a while, talked, and then the rest happened... :)

Yeah, I agree with you there. It wouldn't matter to me if a man looked like a Greek God--marble come to life without physical flaw or blemish--if we didn't share anything in common and couldn't talk, then I'm afraid he and I wouldn’t get too far. I think this is really REALLY important in a relationship--the ability to communicate. Seriously, if we had nothing in common, shared no interests, were total opposites that had differing tastes in practically every aspect of life--what on earth would we talk about?

It would get mighty boring...yeah, I could just sit there admiring him and his good looks, but that only amuses a person for so long before they start the 'resentment phase'. And, years down the road when we are both old and grey, then what? If his good looks were the only thing keeping the relationship going, what happens when his butt turns to mush and his skin starts to wrinkle? No talking AND nothing good to look at? >_< Need someone who can carry on a conversation...


This might sound weird, but I'm totally opposed to dating before friendship. It's the most illogical thing ever.

Yeah, agree again! Friendship is the best way to get to know someone without the 'will she/he like me if I wear my hair like this?' kind of anxiety. Who needs that kind of pressure weighing them down? You can open up with a person and be yourself if you try your hand at courting them (er...friendship). If you jump right into dating cold-turkey, chances are you'll be too nervous to be yourself, and end up not getting anywhere. I think if you start out as friends first, at least you can feel each other out (not in a perverted way people...@_@) and see if you have anything in common, or if you can build a relationship from the friendship.

Yeah, if you break up--you'll possibly be losing a great friend, but if you are comfortable with him/her before jumping into the dating scene--who knows if you'll even break up (of if they will be the 'one' for you).


Sorry, felt like being long-winded again....that happens a lot lately...haha...

[Spadesy]

^ Couldn't have described it any better.

[kiyomi]

I agree with everything Shiroisan said!

A guy can be great to look at..but if that's all there is..then you have nothing.

Too many people are hung up on what celeberties look like and want to look exactly like Britney Spears..or Bradd Pitt. Get real folks..we can't be like THAT.

Just love yourself for who you are..inside and out..then find yourself someone who can do the same.

[Chousho]

... a man looked like a Greek God--marble come to life without physical flaw or blemish...
Yes yes, my chiseled body often scares the women. Such a sad life it is to be me.

I'm so ronrey, so ronery and sadry arone. ;_;


Anyway, what do I look for in the opposite sex? Hmmm, so many answers here that could get me slapped. Haha, in reality though, I look for a girl who can be herself. Not some Barbie girl who I'll have to worry about melting in the sun, or who acts a certain way depending on who she's around (although, you know, everyone has a different way they act around elders than peers, but that's a given). Just a good natured, cute, 5'2"-5'9", blondeish-brownish, dark-light hair with brightish darkish eyes. ;D Just someone who I can be me with and we just "know" each other.

Wait, is this looking for a gf or wife? Or ... a GFWIFE?! WHOA! My whole life is flashing before my eyes *cries*

[max payne]

intellgence, responsibility, not wealthy or if she is wealthy, then she doesn't lord it over people. Maybe someone a little older than me. A LITTLE! like a year or 2 not like 10 years. And someone who doesn't have an annoying high pitched voice.

[lil' warrior]

Nice eye brows. No, seriously! Confident but not showy. Humerous yet quiet. Adventuous but not stupid. Respect for self and others. Know what they want in life. Honest. Sensitive but not needy. Independant but not jerky. Lol...I'll just say it in one word..BALANCED!

[kiyomi]

and what woman is ever balanced..or man, for that matter..

ever heard of Male/Female PMS?? yeah..both sexes have that.

good luck on your find..

[master terrence]

aren't you married Kiyomi?
what did you look for in your guy, if you don't mind me asking?

[kiyomi]

yeah I'm married..and thank you for putting salt on THAT wound..

I was young and stupid..

nuff said..

[Rissa_Rae]

I look for happy guys, I've realized that humor, compatibility, and looks are important, but if you're dating someone who's depressing you won't have any fun.

I like my Cookie though, he's sweet...not salty like some guys.
<3

[lil' warrior]

and what woman is ever balanced..or man, for that matter..

ever heard of Male/Female PMS?? yeah..both sexes have that.

good luck on your find..

Lol...you're right ^^;;

[max payne]

sorry to sound naive but what's PMS?

[lil' warrior]

I guess to find a great find you gotta be a great find! :)

[kiyomi]

sorry to sound naive but what's PMS?

Post Menstrual Syndrome

something like that..all I've ever known it to be called is PMS..

[Midoriko87]

Post Menstrual Syndrome

something like that..all I've ever known it to be called is PMS..

And you call yourself a woman... *Shakes Head* Wait, you do call yourself a woman, non? Or, are you Half-and-Half? That'd be really cool, you know.

It's Premenstraul Syndrome, Maxxy Dear. It's a horribly *****y, slightly painful time prior to our Menses. I guess it varies from female-to-female, and some don't suffer from it, at all (I think).

[kiyomi]

ohh..yeah..that's right..thanks Midorikosan!

and no..I'm not a woman..

I'm a thing.

[HSaabedra]

I want....A tall blonde with a great rack that can wrench on any car and carry Hegel's dialogue while unlocking two Japanese market cellphones and rewriting firmware in Assembler while working on a DJ mix. Am I asking for too much?

[Leader Desslock]

^ I think Seven of Nine might already be taken... ^_^

[MagicianCamille]

Desslock's still hanging around this thread hoping for somebody to just come out and say "BLUE!"

Besides Shiroi.

-Nya

[HSaabedra]

^ I think Seven of Nine might already be taken... ^_^

A man can dream, LeaderD, a man can dream.

[Little Relly]

And you call yourself a woman... *Shakes Head* Wait, you do call yourself a woman, non? Or, are you Half-and-Half? That'd be really cool, you know.

It's Premenstraul Syndrome, Maxxy Dear. It's a horribly *****y, slightly painful time prior to our Menses. I guess it varies from female-to-female, and some don't suffer from it, at all (I think).
O.O that is so not fair!!! its horrible and some girls don't even have it, while the rest of us do!!! T-T now i'm seriously depressed

as for what i look for in a guy, nice, respects me, funny, cute doesn't hurt, and likes me for who i am, not what i look like^^ V.V unfortunately i've only met one guy that was like that towards me and i was so shy that he thought i wasn't interested and now has a girlfriend *sighs* why is it all the good ones are either taken or think of u as only as a friend

[Midoriko87]

O.O that is so not fair!!! its horrible and some girls don't even have it, while the rest of us do!!! T-T now i'm seriously depressed

:lol: Hey, I said I wasn't sure, kiddo.

[Little Relly]

i know, but just the thought depresses me, its doesn't seem fair if it is possible that some girls don't get PMS T-T

[Chousho]

i know, but just the thought depresses me, its doesn't seem fair if it is possible that some girls don't get PMS T-T
You see, as you get older you'll begin to notice your body... changing. With these changes comes pros and cons. Pros are boobs, cons are whiney attitudes and shortened patience. Do boobs outweigh impatience? I think that's better left for a Jerry Springer.

[Little Relly]

.........................i'm not usually whiney, i just really hate pms......................

[Japhyl]

O.O that is so not fair!!! its horrible and some girls don't even have it, while the rest of us do!!! T-T now i'm seriously depressed


What's so horrible about it?

[MagicianCamille]

Please refrain from discussing PMS or any other lady issues in places I may come across.

Basically, keep it to yourself, as far as I'm concerned, PMS is a myth.

[master terrence]

maybe someone should start a pms thread.

[mecegirl]

as far as I'm concerned, PMS is a myth.

LOL only a guy could say that. Myth or not it's real enough for most women and the people lucky enugh to be in their way during that time.

As for some women not geting PMS. I would not say that some don't get it. It comes in different forms. Some just get mad, others depressed and some get all sorts of emotions.

[Japhyl]

Basically, keep it to yourself, as far as I'm concerned, PMS is a myth.

I agree...

[Midoriko87]

maybe someone should start a pms thread.

You know, that idea isn't half-bad. Not necessarily half-good either (what?)... But, if anyone has the balls (ovaries) to start such a thread, it's most definitely me... no YOU!

[Leader Desslock]

maybe someone should start a pms thread.
I can picture such a thread being fairly calm and civil for a few weeks, then suddenly erupting in an ugly flamewar for no reason at all. That'd last a few days, then... there'd be crying. Again, no reason. Just... crying. Everything would be calm the next morning, like nothing had happened. Smilies and other emoticons all the way around, with guys poking their heads up from wherever they'd sought refuge to see if it was safe to come out yet...

[Midoriko87]

I can picture such a thread being fairly calm and civil for a few weeks, then suddenly erupting in an ugly flamewar for no reason at all. That'd last a few days, then... there'd be crying. Again, no reason. Just... crying. Everything would be calm the next morning, like nothing had happened. Smilies and other emoticons all the way around, with guys poking their heads up from wherever they'd sought refuge to see if it was safe to come out yet...

:lol: You're just a regular comedienne, aren't you Desslock?!

[master terrence]

I can picture such a thread being fairly calm and civil for a few weeks, then suddenly erupting in an ugly flamewar for no reason at all. That'd last a few days, then... there'd be crying. Again, no reason. Just... crying. Everything would be calm the next morning, like nothing had happened. Smilies and other emoticons all the way around, with guys poking their heads up from wherever they'd sought refuge to see if it was safe to come out yet...


I feel like we already made the thread... been on AN for to long I guess. Though you are wrong, if a thread I created became a flamewar, I'd delete it. I have in the past ^_^ , go me!

[NGT]

PMS is a myth. It's just a excuse for girls to act *****y.

[cyborgaaron]

PMS is a myth. It's just a excuse for girls to act *****y.Thank you so much for saying that. I thought I was the only one that believed that. :P

[NGT]

Thank you so much for saying that. I thought I was the only one that believed that. :P

Word man. I've heard so many chicks start snapping and then they go "Oh sorry I just have PMS right now." So I decided there is no such thing.

[MagicianCamille]

Thank you so much for saying that. I thought I was the only one that believed that. :P

Way to ignore Camille.

[Shiroiyuki]

Thank you so much for saying that. I thought I was the only one that believed that. :P

I don't think I really am affected by this so called "PMS"; it's more like I'm *****y all year long--but just happen to find myself wanting to kick people extra hard during certain times of the month....


:lol: Is there a term for year-long PMS.......? Cause I think I might have that.....hahaha ^_^.

[NGT]

I don't think I really am affected by this so called "PMS"; it's more like I'm *****y all year long--but just happen to find myself wanting to kick people extra hard during certain times of the month....


:lol: Is there a term for year-long PMS.......? Cause I think I might have that.....hahaha ^_^.

:lol: Yeah you have something called being a *****.

And credit for the discovery of PMS being a myth goes to Camille.

[HitokiriShadow]

A bulge in the crotch region. More specifically, a lack thereof. Because if they have one, its just not going to work out.

Beyond that, I don't have anything specific I'm looking for.

EDIT: Okay, similar (not identical) religious beliefs and political views are a must.

I can picture such a thread being fairly calm and civil for a few weeks, then suddenly erupting in an ugly flamewar for no reason at all. That'd last a few days, then... there'd be crying. Again, no reason. Just... crying. Everything would be calm the next morning, like nothing had happened. Smilies and other emoticons all the way around, with guys poking their heads up from wherever they'd sought refuge to see if it was safe to come out yet...

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Shiroiyuki]

:lol: Yeah you have something called being a *****.


Well I was joking...but thanks so much for judging me regardless.....

[NGT]

Well I was joking...but thanks so much for judging me regardless.....

I was just kidding. I'm sure you're a nice person.

[CrossboneGundam]

PMS is a myth. It's just a excuse for girls to act *****y.

Why would they need an excuse? And why at only one time a month?

[cyborgaaron]

I was just kidding. I'm sure you're a nice person.Good cover she might be having PMS right now. :lol:

[Chousho]

Well I was joking...but thanks so much for judging me regardless.....
But.. but I thought PMS stood for Premenstrual Shiroiyuki -_-;

Maybe they taught me wrong in elementary school.

[NGT]

Why would they need an excuse? And why at only one time a month?

No no you dont understand. They say it more than once a month and like I said its just a excuse for them to piss guys off so they can apologize saying they were PMSing. ;)

[5YN-fitik]

So you ask every gentleman you meet to remove his pants before engaging in any sort of conversation?

sure, why not;;

[MagicianCamille]

Why would they need an excuse? And why at only one time a month?

CBG is under their spell. :(

[Fobb]

Most people listed things you would find in a romatic novel...

Don't we wish we lived in one?

[SangoStrummer]

Most people listed things you would find in a romatic novel...

Don't we wish we lived in one?

Mine wasn't at all. I was very realistic.

Hey, bosom buddy :huggles: :*

[kiyomi]

All right then Fobby..

I'm looking for a man that isn't DEAD.

How's that?

[Fobb]

All right then Fobby..

I'm looking for a man that isn't DEAD.

How's that?
I'm your man! :)

(I was only joshing on that last post.)

[Fobb]

I bet my Shelly IS down to earth about her man. :huggles: :*

[Gannon]

i forgot to add that small penises are a turn-off.

What?!

How DARE you disrespect-- The OTHER guys on this forum!

[SangoStrummer]

You know that I am, Fahad. Didn't you read my post about a zillion pages back? :P

[Fobb]

Sorry I couldn't :(

My head is bangin right now...

But yea, lets not turn this into a chat thread.

I look for a nice girl. Paki (yes...nothing racist tho, just I can relate to them best). And......yeah, of my religion (ditto of what I said before.)

[Loopy]

Horny but knows how to keep her lusts in check. Anyone who thinks premarital or casual sex is immoral won't last long with me. Likewise anyone who humps a tree is garbage.

Physical attraction. Romance is very much a relationship of the flesh as it is of the heart and anyone who tells me looks don't matter, ladies: You're saying if Brian Peppers had a heart of gold you'd do him? Guys: You're saying you'd bonk Liza Manelli if she was the nicest person on earth?

Pretty hair. Blondes, redheads, brunettes, they're all fine with me.

Similar political and religious views.

Doesn't have to like my geeky hobbies but at least support them and won't make fun of them.

Anyone who goes binge shopping and/or smears cosmetics all over themselves is a no-no because there are more interesting things to do with life.

No smokers or idiots who get ridiculously drunk.

Independent and strong. I want my significant other to have a life of her own too as she should expect of me or else someone's going to hurt in the relationship. Naturally this will make our love for one another stronger and things will go swimmingly.

Strong sense of humor. Not giggly at everything but can laugh at herself and enjoy life.

No BS head games. Tell me what you want. Not just when we're talking normally but when we're in bed too; how can I hope to satisfy you if you won't tell me what you like and dislike?

[Fobb]

I can picture such a thread being fairly calm and civil for a few weeks, then suddenly erupting in an ugly flamewar for no reason at all. That'd last a few days, then... there'd be crying. Again, no reason. Just... crying. Everything would be calm the next morning, like nothing had happened. Smilies and other emoticons all the way around, with guys poking their heads up from wherever they'd sought refuge to see if it was safe to come out yet...NO YOU'RE WRONG I HATE YOU!!![just kidding]

[morphine]

Hmmm off the top of my head, what i usually notice and appreciate would be:
Open-mindedness, nice hair, good taste in clothing, a bit adventerous, NOT A KILLJOY, and wouldn't hurt to have a nice body :D

[SangoStrummer]

Hmmm off the top of my head, what i usually notice and appreciate would be:
Open-mindedness, nice hair, good taste in clothing, a bit adventerous, NOT A KILLJOY, and wouldn't hurt to have a nice body :D

THAT'S ME! :O

[morphine]

THAT'S ME! :O

So where did you say you're from? Hmmmmmmmmm?

[SangoStrummer]

Now don't get too hasty. You might not be what I'm looking for :P

Hmm..what I look for in the opposite sex is, an in numerical sequence of importance.

1.) Intelligence. Literacy is a very attractive quality, along with coherency of course.
2.) Sense of humor. I need a guy who's as..quirky as I am. Okay okay...as odd as I am ^^;; A guy who can make me laugh.
3.) Physical features..dark hair, dark eyes, an a pouty bottom lip to nibble on..uh..I mean, a nice smile >.>

But above all else, the absolute most important thing is how I feel about me when we're together. I don't want to be an afterthought. Something to pull out of the toybox to play with when he's bored. I want a full partnership of love, trust, and repect.

I also want someone who challenges me at every turn, makes me think.
Oh, and be as competative as I am. I love any kind of game under the sun. With the exception of Monopoly. Can't win it won't, won't play it. Don't ask v.v. And he can't be a sore loser. He'll just have to get used to never winning against me :P

Fit any of my criteria? :naughty:

[morphine]

Well, noone would admit that they're dumb however, trying to be as humble as possible, i do fit into the "intelligent" and "funny" category :)
As for the physical features, i have dark brown eyes, black hair, and am fairly tall.

Good enough? lol

[SangoStrummer]

Good enough :D

[Lord Timaeus]

Horny but knows how to keep her lusts in check. Anyone who thinks premarital or casual sex is immoral won't last long with me. Likewise anyone who humps a tree is garbage.

Physical attraction. Romance is very much a relationship of the flesh as it is of the heart and anyone who tells me looks don't matter, ladies: You're saying if Brian Peppers had a heart of gold you'd do him? Guys: You're saying you'd bonk Liza Manelli if she was the nicest person on earth?

Pretty hair. Blondes, redheads, brunettes, they're all fine with me.

Similar political and religious views.

Doesn't have to like my geeky hobbies but at least support them and won't make fun of them.

Anyone who goes binge shopping and/or smears cosmetics all over themselves is a no-no because there are more interesting things to do with life.

No smokers or idiots who get ridiculously drunk.

Independent and strong. I want my significant other to have a life of her own too as she should expect of me or else someone's going to hurt in the relationship. Naturally this will make our love for one another stronger and things will go swimmingly.

Strong sense of humor. Not giggly at everything but can laugh at herself and enjoy life.

No BS head games. Tell me what you want. Not just when we're talking normally but when we're in bed too; how can I hope to satisfy you if you won't tell me what you like and dislike?

What he said, only not so much horny; I'd rather stay a virgin than sexx0r up on a seemingly endless basis, no matter who she is. Although I'm pretty much determined that such a woman either doesn't exist or isn't available, therefore I really couldn't care less about falling in love anymore.

[Fobb]

What he said, only not so much horny; I'd rather stay a virgin than sexx0r up on a seemingly endless basis, no matter who she is. Although I'm pretty much determined that such a woman either doesn't exist or isn't available, therefore I really couldn't care less about falling in love anymore.
Actually, by that description, it seems almost every girl like that is available here.

[Shiroiyuki]

Anyone who thinks premarital or casual sex is immoral won't last long with me.


Well you see that is something I can't stand. That attitude. A guy will sit there and pressure a woman into having sex, no matter if they believe that premarital sexual congress is morally wrong or not. Where do guys get off telling a woman, 'if you don't do it with me soon, we are going to break up'?!?! #*$&! If a guy said that to me--I think he'd be finding out what a testicle-retrieval operation fells like. Now, I think that if you truly care about a person, you will wait until they are ready to sink deeper into the relationship--not force them into doing something they don't want to do. Don't be giving them some damn ultimatum that will give the girl issues later on in life.

Sex really puts a strain on the relationship anyways, so why try and force the physical aspects too soon? The girl becomes too attached and wants a commitment (that usually doesn't happen), then things get awkward and someone is bound to get hurt. If she isn't ready, she isn't ready. Why not just wait and see if the relationship develops into something more seriously (In due time), rather than ruin it by unnecessary pressure. Men who have sex with every chick in sight aren’t a big turn on either, you know?

NOW, there are those cases where a woman just happens to be 'loose'...but honestly, no man wants a loose woman to be his wife. One of my guy friends told me one time that men love to chase sexually active (and practically non-discriminatory) women around for a good time--but that's about it. Just to put another conquest under their belt, nothing more. They don't take them home to meet their mothers, they don't try to create a long lasting relationship with the town's 'bicycle' (everyone takes a turn riding.....>_<). They just 'hit and run'. When they go to settle down, they are going to look for gentler, 'virgin' types to make an actual commitment with. While this might not be every guy's agenda, my friends all swear it's true.

A man who hits everything in sight is 'cool' in the eyes of his friends, but a woman who has just as many experiences is viewed as a dirty little ****.

Now, I'm not a....prude per se....but I'm not one of those loose, trashy women who have one-night stands and get-it-on with every Tom **** or Harry out there. I have standards, and think it IS wrong to engage in casual sex. If you are in love, that is another thing....but 'love' doesn't happen within the first couple of dates. UGH.

[HSaabedra]

Tell that to the women that rejected me sexually after being in long term relationships with them. As far as I'm concerned, women are full of it.

[Lord Timaeus]

You see, this discussion makes me glad I'm still a virgin. I remember pretty much every male classmate of mine from 8th grade onwards was in at least some way a pervert. And since there were almost no girls in my classes at the time, I was forced to listen to such ramblings that would put Penthouse to shame. It was often degrading, as the thought of making a mockery of such acts of intimacy sickened me.

Of course, I can never be as perverted as most people I know. Hell, just about every naked or half-naked pic I find on the Internet reminds me of how low society has sunk. And with many of my generation brainwashed by our current sex-pimping media, I'd much rather stay a virgin for life, even if it means being labeled a useless freak.

[Loopy]

Well you see that is something I can't stand. That attitude. A guy will sit there and pressure a woman into having sex, no matter if they believe that premarital sexual congress is morally wrong or not. Where do guys get off telling a woman, 'if you don't do it with me soon, we are going to break up'?!?! #*$&! If a guy said that to me--I think he'd be finding out what a testicle-retrieval operation fells like.

Wow. Talk about putting words in my mouth. I never said I'd pressure anyone, nor did I advocate extreme cases like you described. But carnal passion has to be in a romantic relationship, otherwise it's just a friendship.

Now, I think that if you truly care about a person, you will wait until they are ready to sink deeper into the relationship--not force them into doing something they don't want to do. Don't be giving them some damn ultimatum that will give the girl issues later on in life.

Hey I'd never said I'd pressure her. If she didn't want to do it, I'd give her time but there has to be sex before the first six months or so on. Otherwise I just can't do it. There has to be some compatibility between two people in a relationship; for example I might care for a girl a lot or a girl might care for me to the point of romance but she's also very religious. I'm not. Therefore I'd know better and keep my feelings in check. Likewise if she wasn't ready to give carnal passion within the first few months or so, I'd break up with her because I require fire and excitement within a relationship. There are many other people in the world for both genders so if we had to break up because of a lack of physical intimacy and she was upset I'd reassure her that there are many other men. Some people just aren't made for each other.

Sex really puts a strain on the relationship anyways, so why try and force the physical aspects too soon? The girl becomes too attached and wants a commitment (that usually doesn't happen), then things get awkward and someone is bound to get hurt. If she isn't ready, she isn't ready. Why not just wait and see if the relationship develops into something more seriously (In due time), rather than ruin it by unnecessary pressure.

Sure. But what if one person was ready and the other wasn't? I can wait but I can only wait for so long before conflict arises. After all why should I settle for less than I deserve? In the example of the requirement of sex, for me compromises must be made; if not sex then making out or petting to substitute. Both parties should be willing to meet each other halfway. And forcing incompatible people into a relationship won't work out. I find the lust driven part of romance to be just as important as the emotional part so I would expect my partner to respect that. Bad kissers or bad lovemakers? I'll tell them what I want and what's bothering me but if they get offended, then they're being selfish. If they don't like what I want, then they'll have to move on; dating is partly about luck and partly about failure.

Men who have sex with every chick in sight aren’t a big turn on either, you know?

NOW, there are those cases where a woman just happens to be 'loose'...but honestly, no man wants a loose woman to be his wife. One of my guy friends told me one time that men love to chase sexually active (and practically non-discriminatory) women around for a good time--but that's about it. Just to put another conquest under their belt, nothing more. They don't take them home to meet their mothers, they don't try to create a long lasting relationship with the town's 'bicycle' (everyone takes a turn riding.....>_<). They just 'hit and run'. When they go to settle down, they are going to look for gentler, 'virgin' types to make an actual commitment with. While this might not be every guy's agenda, my friends all swear it's true.

I recall saying that I despise lustful idiots who can't keep their loins controlled. Unless you know what you're doing and are protecting yourself and having sex with people you trust, then men and women who practice that behavior are stupid and dirty ****s.

A man who hits everything in sight is 'cool' in the eyes of his friends, but a woman who has just as many experiences is viewed as a dirty little ****.

Sadly this is true.

I have standards, and think it IS wrong to engage in casual sex. If you are in love, that is another thing....but 'love' doesn't happen within the first couple of dates. UGH.

Some people would be inclined to disagree. Some are fed up with romance and the search for love and just want to enjoy the more wild side of life. Their beliefs are different from yours. So?

[f0rest]

Something as major as premarital sex should be adequately discussed WAAAAYYY before diving into any sort of relationship (politics, religion or lack thereof are also on the list). It will save a tremendous amount of heartbreak and bitterness. One shouldn't assume that the other is willing to compromise their moral\religious code simply because they think it is out of date or an unreasonable request. Likewise, people should respect the idea that sex is a healthy and necessary part of a relationship, married or not. Neither side is wrong...just my 2 cents.

[China Doll]

Well you see that is something I can't stand. That attitude. A guy will sit there and pressure a woman into having sex, no matter if they believe that premarital sexual congress is morally wrong or not. Where do guys get off telling a woman, 'if you don't do it with me soon, we are going to break up'?!?! #*$&! If a guy said that to me--I think he'd be finding out what a testicle-retrieval operation fells like. Now, I think that if you truly care about a person, you will wait until they are ready to sink deeper into the relationship--not force them into doing something they don't want to do. Don't be giving them some damn ultimatum that will give the girl issues later on in life.

Sex really puts a strain on the relationship anyways, so why try and force the physical aspects too soon? The girl becomes too attached and wants a commitment (that usually doesn't happen), then things get awkward and someone is bound to get hurt. If she isn't ready, she isn't ready. Why not just wait and see if the relationship develops into something more seriously (In due time), rather than ruin it by unnecessary pressure. Men who have sex with every chick in sight aren’t a big turn on either, you know?

NOW, there are those cases where a woman just happens to be 'loose'...but honestly, no man wants a loose woman to be his wife. One of my guy friends told me one time that men love to chase sexually active (and practically non-discriminatory) women around for a good time--but that's about it. Just to put another conquest under their belt, nothing more. They don't take them home to meet their mothers, they don't try to create a long lasting relationship with the town's 'bicycle' (everyone takes a turn riding.....>_<). They just 'hit and run'. When they go to settle down, they are going to look for gentler, 'virgin' types to make an actual commitment with. While this might not be every guy's agenda, my friends all swear it's true.

A man who hits everything in sight is 'cool' in the eyes of his friends, but a woman who has just as many experiences is viewed as a dirty little ****.

Now, I'm not a....prude per se....but I'm not one of those loose, trashy women who have one-night stands and get-it-on with every Tom **** or Harry out there. I have standards, and think it IS wrong to engage in casual sex. If you are in love, that is another thing....but 'love' doesn't happen within the first couple of dates. UGH.

Totally! I agree :)

[MagicianCamille]

When they go to settle down, they are going to look for gentler, 'virgin' types to make an actual commitment with.

Sounds like a plan to me. I don't want my lady love to have been VIOLATED by some other guy.

Personal preferences HOOOOOO~~~

[Danju]

Sure. But what if one person was ready and the other wasn't? I can wait but I can only wait for so long before conflict arises. After all why should I settle for less than I deserve? In the example of the requirement of sex, for me compromises must be made; if not sex then making out or petting to substitute. Both parties should be willing to meet each other halfway. And forcing incompatible people into a relationship won't work out. I find the lust driven part of romance to be just as important as the emotional part so I would expect my partner to respect that. Bad kissers or bad lovemakers? I'll tell them what I want and what's bothering me but if they get offended, then they're being selfish. If they don't like what I want, then they'll have to move on; dating is partly about luck and partly about failure.
I find it sad that your relationships have to revolve around sex or strong physical action in some way. I don't believe that premarital sex is "immoral" or anything, but I do believe it's something that should be saved for your special someone. Well, no, not really. I'm not saying that you should only have sex with one person in your entire lifetime, but I believe you should only have sex with someone you can see yourself settling down with. Someone you believe you love. Someone you believe loves you back.

You're, unintentionally I'm sure, implying that you only date girls for the sex. Say you meet this really great girl. She has that personality you've been looking for, the looks you've been looking for, everything. You think she's perfect for you, and you think feels the same about you. Oh wait, but then you find one problem: she won't give you sex. Are you telling me that complications to the relationship would actually arise because of it? This great girl wouldn't be "good enough" for you because she doesn't want to have sex? I find that very wrong. I don't mean to put words in your mouth or make you up to look like a bad person, we're just at a disagreement here.

Something as major as premarital sex should be adequately discussed WAAAAYYY before diving into any sort of relationship (politics, religion or lack thereof are also on the list). It will save a tremendous amount of heartbreak and bitterness. One shouldn't assume that the other is willing to compromise their moral\religious code simply because they think it is out of date or an unreasonable request. Likewise, people should respect the idea that sex is a healthy and necessary part of a relationship, married or not. Neither side is wrong...just my 2 cents.
I agree that it should be discussed before diving into any sort of serious relationship, but I don't think the outcome of the discussion should have any effect - be it positive or negative - on what you think of the person or whether you want to continue the relationship. I also disagree with the part about sex being a necessary part of a relationship. Sex is meant for reproduction. I don't think a guy should be putting his tallywacker into little munchkins until he's sure she's a girl he wouldn't mind starting a family with. There's no such thing as fool proof sex - you always risk pregnancy one way or the other. What happens when a girl you don't love is carrying your baby? You're screwed is what happens.

A man who hits everything in sight is 'cool' in the eyes of his friends, but a woman who has just as many experiences is viewed as a dirty little ****.
True, unfortunately. I've never quite understood how it came to be that way. A man who has sex many a time is a "pimp" and is respected and looked upon by all the men who know him. A woman who has had sex many a time is "dirty" and is looked down on by all the women who know her. Makes perfect sense.

[Haro!]

Casual sex is fine so long as both parties know that its casual. The end.

[Kamiichi]

I have no predetermined Attributes that I'm searching for. If anything, I'd say it's the "idea" of a perfect woman that I'm searching for right now, not the Perfect woman herself. There are Attributes that I look for in women but only in each woman I meet. I'm attracted to many different women, not "types of woman" and not all are for the same reason. I have no specific "Type" cause I'm attracted to any girl from every end of the spectrum but I'm never attracted to anyone trait, even if more then a few of those girls may share a trait.

My Tastes do not dictate what I look for in a girl but rather what I see in a girl dictates my interest in her. If I don't like what I see in her, I have no interest but I do not look for anything that I don't already know she has. I'm attracted to who she is, not just her parts.

But, besides that, I only look for someone who understands me. If she has no interest in knowing me for who I really am behind the mask, I feel as though I couldn't know her.

[germanturkey]

girls eh..

intellegent <== a must. who cares if she looks amazing if she can't have an intellegent conversation
nice
dirty blond or brunette (don't like blonds)
athletic (plays some sport at least... track included [though its not a sport])
pretty eyes
not taller than me
doesn't have to be super model thin
fun to be with
b or c cup. no larger

[Danju]

I want a girl with a mind like a diamond
I want a girl who knows what's best
I want a girl with shoes that cut
And eyes that burn like cigarettes
I want a girl with the right allocation
Who's fast, and thorough, and sharp as a tack
She's playing with her jewelry, she's putting up her hair
She's touring the facility and picking up slack
I want a girl with a short skirt,
And a looooooooooooong jacket

[Orchid]

I have no predetermined Attributes that I'm searching for. If anything, I'd say it's the "idea" of a perfect woman that I'm searching for right now, not the Perfect woman herself. There are Attributes that I look for in women but only in each woman I meet. I'm attracted to many different women, not "types of woman" and not all are for the same reason. I have no specific "Type" cause I'm attracted to any girl from every end of the spectrum but I'm never attracted to anyone trait, even if more then a few of those girls may share a trait.

My Tastes do not dictate what I look for in a girl but rather what I see in a girl dictates my interest in her. If I don't like what I see in her, I have no interest but I do not look for anything that I don't already know she has. I'm attracted to who she is, not just her parts.

But, besides that, I only look for someone who understands me. If she has no interest in knowing me for who I really am behind the mask, I feel as though I couldn't know her.

Exactly how I feel.

[f0rest]

germanturkey, what anime is the person in your avatar from?

[Loopy]

I find it sad that your relationships have to revolve around sex or strong physical action in some way. I don't believe that premarital sex is "immoral" or anything, but I do believe it's something that should be saved for your special someone. Well, no, not really. I'm not saying that you should only have sex with one person in your entire lifetime, but I believe you should only have sex with someone you can see yourself settling down with. Someone you believe you love. Someone you believe loves you back.

You're, unintentionally I'm sure, implying that you only date girls for the sex. Say you meet this really great girl. She has that personality you've been looking for, the looks you've been looking for, everything. You think she's perfect for you, and you think feels the same about you. Oh wait, but then you find one problem: she won't give you sex. Are you telling me that complications to the relationship would actually arise because of it? This great girl wouldn't be "good enough" for you because she doesn't want to have sex? I find that very wrong. I don't mean to put words in your mouth or make you up to look like a bad person, we're just at a disagreement here.

Honestly I prefer older, more mature women so I hope the issue of premarital sex doesn't surface.

I agree that it should be discussed before diving into any sort of serious relationship, but I don't think the outcome of the discussion should have any effect - be it positive or negative - on what you think of the person or whether you want to continue the relationship. I also disagree with the part about sex being a necessary part of a relationship. Sex is meant for reproduction. I don't think a guy should be putting his tallywacker into little munchkins until he's sure she's a girl he wouldn't mind starting a family with. There's no such thing as fool proof sex - you always risk pregnancy one way or the other. What happens when a girl you don't love is carrying your baby? You're screwed is what happens.

Abortion, hopefully. But that's another can of worms so let's leave it out of this topic. I'd hate to see it clsoed.

[Leader Desslock]

germanturkey, what anime is the person in your avatar from?
I'll answer this, just because: That's Belldandy, from the Ah! My Goddess TV series. It's actually her shrunken-down form. If I remember correctly, she subdivided into a smaller version of herself to save her energy.


And now, to stay relatively on topic, I want to address one point I saw:

But carnal passion has to be in a romantic relationship, otherwise it's just a friendship.
Disagree. Maybe true for you. Not true for everyone. There are some relationships that don't involve sex, and there are some friendships that do.

And a subsequent point in that same post. You say...

I never said I'd pressure anyone...Hey I'd never said I'd pressure her.
...which would be a lovely sentiment until you follow it up with...

If she didn't want to do it, I'd give her time but there has to be sex before the first six months or so on... if she wasn't ready to give carnal passion within the first few months or so, I'd break up with her...
Ummm... Not sure if you're aware of this or not, but that's called "pressuring" in most circumstances.

To your credit, you do potentially redeem yourself a bit:

Some people just aren't made for each other.
That shows a bit more maturity in terms of saying, "Yeah, you know, it's something I put a high value on, so I know that I shouldn't even get involved in a long-term platonic relationship."

But then you go and wreck that mature perspective by saying:

...why should I settle for less than I deserve?
See, there's nothing wrong with that statement in and of itself. It actually reinforces the previous maturity if it means 'understanding what you find necessary in a long-term relationship'. But even if it means that, you have walked up to the line of what could be construed as arrogant to some folks. Some folks would read that and say, "What makes you think you deserve anything?" It might be nitpicking, but you can see where that reaction comes from, at least.

If you'd stepped back from that line, I might almost give it the benefit of the doubt. But then you finish off by stepping across the line with both feet:

In the example of the requirement of sex, for me compromises must be made; if not sex then making out or petting to substitute. Both parties should be willing to meet each other halfway.
Ooo... no. Expecting a girlfriend to indulge your need for physical intimacy (of any kind) before she's ready is not, nor will it ever be a 'compromise'. It is not 'meeting halfway'. To think of it like that is... backwards, and it's also a textbook description of the 'pressuring' I mentioned earlier.

Physical intimacy is something two people freely share when they're both ready and eager to do so. It is not something to be used as a 'compromise' like some sort of bargaining chip in negotiations.

The only 'compromise' in such matters is that you should reasonably expect to be able to broach the subject with your girlfriend, with the expectation that she will consider the request. Once she says, "No, I'm not interested", then the compromise is done, negotiations are concluded and you have your own choice to make: Stay & Wait or Not.

There is no futher compromise in that situation; only capitulation. And take it from a licensed distributor of those t-shirts, that never really works out well.

I understand your perspective, but I think I'd have supported it a bit more before you elaborated upon it. ^_^ Still, it's your life and your choice, so I'll wish you luck with it.

[Shiroiyuki]

I'm not saying that you should only have sex with one person in your entire lifetime, but I believe you should only have sex with someone you can see yourself settling down with. Someone you believe you love. Someone you believe loves you back.

My sentiments exactly. Sex isn't some evil 'can't-talk-about-it-or-engage-in-it-unless-you-want-to-suffer-some-untold-horror' act; but it should be saved for someone you love. Truly, truly love. That is my opinion at least *shrugs*.

What happens when a girl you don't love is carrying your baby?
Sadly, the town where I live has one of the highest teen-pregnancy rates in the state. I think it is due to the fact that there is nothing to do up here, besides drinking, fishing/hunting, and well...engaging in sexual congress. At any rate, as someone who has seen many poor girls (16 is the average age around here...some even younger sadly) become pregnant, I can honestly say that most men just don't care. They say 'have an abortion' and leave it at that.

Now, most of my friends are SERIOUSLY are against abortion--so they end up carrying the baby to term, just to wind up stuck with a child and trying to deal with everyday things on top of that--such as school, work, and paying bills. Now, yeah they can take it to court; get the jerk (who is also 16 or so without a real job) to pay child support, but we are poor up here. We are humble farmers--we grow crops, we raise chickens, and we struggle from paycheck to paycheck to maintain our homes. Most of the 16 year olds don't have enough money to go to court, pay for lawyers, and go through that ordeal. The little punks who sat there and pressured them into sex get away without much fuss--probably to go knock up the next poor soul.

I think this is terrible. I'm thoroughly against abortion myself (which is another discussion altogether), so I was really happy I couldn't date until I turned 18. It kept me safe from peer pressure, and from doing something utterly stupid. Now that I'm older and much more mature--I see that some things, such as 'casual sex', are just not worth the risk of ruining your life. It's my personal choice, and I wish other girls would adopt that frame of mind as well. But, everyone is entitled to do as they please....shame that it is....

Honestly I prefer older, more mature women so I hope the issue of premarital sex doesn't surface.

Um....newsflash:

Older women have been around the block--so they know enough to avoid your pressuring techniques. If anything, they will be more apt to say no, simply because they have more going on and are most likely looking for Mr. Right. Most likely, they would see right through your guise and know there would be no serious relationship in exchange for the sex....that you so desperately seek.

Besides, most mature women want an equally mature mate. Hmmm....

Wow. Talk about putting words in my mouth. I never said I'd pressure anyone, nor did I advocate extreme cases like you described. But carnal passion has to be in a romantic relationship, otherwise it's just a friendship.

You prove the point I was making later on in your post....let's see....right about here:

Hey I'd never said I'd pressure her. If she didn't want to do it, I'd give her time but there has to be sex before the first six months or so on. Otherwise I just can't do it.

Talk about major contradiction! So, you say you wouldn't pressure her, but you'd make it known that before the six month marker, the sex better be had or you would be out for the count? I see--that my friend, is called 'pressuring'. Telling someone, 'you better put out before X amount of time' is pressure--and pretty rude too. I wonder if anyone has ever made it passed that six month marker and lived to tell the tale?

Likewise if she wasn't ready to give carnal passion within the first few months or so, I'd break up with her because I require fire and excitement within a relationship.

First of all, you can have fire, passion, and excitement in a relationship without having sex. Sex just confuses things--that's why it is best to wait until AFTER a deeper connection between two people has been made before engaging in it. BOTH parties (not just the man) have to feel ready and willing to engage in the physical aspect of the relationship before it goes to that level. You just seem like you are expecting too much from women, and should instead be looking for tramps/prostitutes (and not actual girlfriends) to please your 'needs'. That would satisfy you without the whole 'oh no, she's not putting out...time to break up' burden you seem to be dealing with.

I can wait but I can only wait for so long before conflict arises. After all why should I settle for less than I deserve?
Deserve? What do you deserve for your pressure and/or high (and unfair) expectations? Absolutely nothing in my opinion. Physical intimacy isn't a reward for two months of good behavior; it is something that should happen once both people feel ready and excited to indulge in that type of pleasure. What do you think=--you are God's answer to all women? Oh man, if you honestly told a woman, "I deserve sex, so give it to me" she would probably:

A.) Laugh outright and walk out the door
B.) Get so appalled she finds the nearest blunt object and proceeds to beat you with it

Or my personal favorite

C.) Shows you exactly what you 'deserve' for making such a haughty request, by kicking you square in the family jewels and calling it a day.

Now, I'm saying any girl of class and morals would react (within reason) similarly to the above examples....maybe not identically, but you wouldn't be receiving your 'desired reward' that's for damn sure.

In the example of the requirement of sex, for me compromises must be made; if not sex then making out or petting to substitute.

I'm so utterly appalled by this statement...I have no words. UGH.

I'll tell them what I want and what's bothering me but if they get offended, then they're being selfish.

You have this backwards--it is you who are being selfish for expecting something that some women won't give to you before being 'ready'. Respect what they are saying and how they feel, don't just demand sexual favors in exchange for physical intimacy. Yeah, they should respect what you're saying too--but 'respect' and 'giving in to your demands' are two VERY different things. If you truly loved someone, you would wait until they were ready. And you said you don't pressure women...? Yeah...

I recall saying that I despise lustful idiots who can't keep their loins controlled. Unless you know what you're doing and are protecting yourself and having sex with people you trust, then men and women who practice that behavior are stupid and dirty ****s
Um....do you despise yourself? Because there isn't much of a distinction between 'lustful idiot' and 'man who demands sex or moves on'. Well, actually...the latter is acting like an immature child who should be publicly castrated just for good measure. >_< At least then we wouldn't have to worry about the population of 'unwanted' children going up any more.

Some are fed up with romance and the search for love and just want to enjoy the more wild side of life.
Hey, I can appreciate wanting to be 'wild' in a relationship...but that doesn't mean I need to be sexually in-discriminatory either. You can have TONS of fun without putting out. A relationship shouldn't be based on sex alone; it should be more than that.

Their beliefs are different from yours. So?
Well I hate to see women get used and abused by little punks who expect too much from them. They give in because they have low self-esteem (or whatever else), and it is just plain sad to see. I've dealt with men who have just one thing in mind--and I HATE when they just won't take 'no' for an answer. Pressuring anybody to do things they don't want to do is wrong, so I take offense to people thinking 'sewing their wild oats' is more important than participating in a serious relationship that doesn't rely on sex as the main attraction. If you find a girl willing to engage in physical aspects, that is great-- the more power to you. But if you damage a girl's self-esteem by demanding goods from them when they are not ready, then BREAKING UP with them because you are denied...that rubs me the wrong way.

[Loopy]

GRRRRRR

But, everyone is entitled to do as they please....shame that it is....

Come down from your ivory tower dear. When you don't have to resort to ad hominems or look down upon others of differing viewpoints than yours to try to emphasize your fragile arguments then we can continue the discussion like adults.

As for your points...

Older women have been around the block--so they know enough to avoid your pressuring techniques. If anything, they will be more apt to say no, simply because they have more going on and are most likely looking for Mr. Right. Most likely, they would see right through your guise and know there would be no serious relationship in exchange for the sex....that you so desperately seek.

Thing is an older woman would be less likely to be hesitant to give premarital sex. The only type that worry me to do that are the shy, reserved types, which aren't what I'm looking for. By the way I love how you ignore that I said that I value emotion and lust equally in a relationship. I know what I want and go after it. If my mate's goals don't coincide with my own then nothing is forcing them to stay along. Actually I'd encourage them to go find someone else because I know it wouldn't work out. I want a healthy sexual appetite and a caring person. I'm not going to prolong anything that doesn't fit this criteria. Bring around the block longer, an older woman would be less likely to fear putting out before we've known each other to the point of wanting to be married because she'd realize how natural it is (and I imagine she'd be quite the partner too, yowza!).

First of all, you can have fire, passion, and excitement in a relationship without having sex. Sex just confuses things--that's why it is best to wait until AFTER a deeper connection between two people has been made before engaging in it. BOTH parties (not just the man) have to feel ready and willing to engage in the physical aspect of the relationship before it goes to that level. You just seem like you are expecting too much from women, and should instead be looking for tramps/prostitutes (and not actual girlfriends) to please your 'needs'. That would satisfy you without the whole 'oh no, she's not putting out...time to break up' burden you seem to be dealing with.

See I view sex as more of a physical activity than anything else. I want someone who sees the same way.

Obviously our views differ so this argument is pointless but tell me...why do you insist on using such a condescending tone?

Deserve? What do you deserve for your pressure and/or high (and unfair) expectations? Absolutely nothing in my opinion. Physical intimacy isn't a reward for two months of good behavior; it is something that should happen once both people feel ready and excited to indulge in that type of pleasure. What do you think you are God's answer to women? Oh man, if you honestly told a woman, "I deserve sex, so give it to me" she would probably:

A.) Laugh outright and walk out the door
B.) Get so appalled she finds the nearest blunt object and proceeds to beat you with it

Or, my personal favorite

C.) Shows you exactly what you 'deserve' for making such a coldhearted request, by kicking you square in the family jewels and calling it a day.

Now, I'm saying any girl of class and morals would react (within reason) similarly to the above examples....maybe not identically, but you wouldn't be receiving your 'request' that's for sure.

No, sex is a requirement in my romantic relationships. And when I say that I deserve something, I mean I deserve a mate who fits or almost fits my ideal woman. Tell me why shouldn't I deserve this exactly again? And note that I never said I deserved anything from someone who's unwilling to put out, I said that I deserve someone who fits my expectations. Anyone who isn't willing to put out I'll cut the thing off.

Is it because I WANT sex and aren't afraid to ask for it that you're so pissy? And for the record I'm not looking for "a girl with class", I'm looking for an intelligent fully fledged human being who doesn't subscribe themselves to gender roles and isn't afraid to ruck in the muck (literally and figuratively speaking!). Obviously a woman should be selective about her partners and obviously there will simply be times where she just won't want to have sex but there are also times where I will expect she will be, just as I expect her to think the same of me. Otherwise it's not happening with me. If she's that hurt by it I'll break up and move on as I would expect her to do.

You have this backwards--it is you who are being selfish for expecting something that some women won't give to you before being 'ready'. Respect what they are saying and how they feel, don't just demand sexual favors in exchange for physical intimacy. Yeah, they should respect what you're saying too--but 'respect' and 'giving in to your demands' are two VERY different things. If you truly loved someone, you would wait until they were ready.

I can wait. But I have standards of my own and physical intimacy is one of those. If the other party doesn't feel up to this then I will break it off because to me it doesn't feel like a relationship, it feels like a friendship.

Um....do you despise yourself? Because there isn't much of a distinction between 'lustful idiot' and 'man who demands sex or moves on'. Well, actually...the latter is acting like an immature child who should be publicly castrated just for good measure. At least then we wouldn't have to worry about the population of 'unwanted' children to go up any more.

Why? Because my standards are different from yours?

Hey, I can appreciate wanting to be 'wild' in a relationship...but that doesn't mean I need to be sexually in-discriminatory either. You can have TONS of fun without putting out. A relationship shouldn't be based on sex alone; it should be more than that.

Depends on what type of relationship this is. If this is a friends with benefits scenario or otherwise, I don't exactly see the problem (and I bold for emphasis since you seemed to miss it the last time) as long as they know what they're doing. Sex for the enjoyment of sex is perfectly natural. Sure it can be meaningful with the one you love but even then, it's nothing more than a bunch of dirty smells and nasty fluids.

Well I hate to see women get used and abused by little punks who expect too much from them. They give in because they have low self-esteem (or whatever else), and it is just plain sad to see. I've dealt with men who have just one thing in mind--and I HATE when they just won't take 'no' for an answer. Pressuring anybody to do things they don't want to do is wrong, so I take offense to people thinking 'sewing their wild oats' is more important than participating in a serious relationship that doesn't rely on sex as the main attraction. If you find a girl willing to engage in physical aspects, that is great-- the more power to you. But if you damage a girl's self-esteem by demanding goods from them when they are not ready, then BREAKING UP with them because you are denied...that rubs me the wrong way.

Funny because this quote was in response to me asking you about why you abhor people who bonk for bonking's sake. This includes women so try gender equality next time.

As for your statement about jerks, yeah that sucks. But there are jerks of all persuasions and a few horny ****s in need of a knife isn't reason to spit down on everyone who wants to engage in casual sex simply for enjoyment. If these people didn't make their intentions clear or do and pressure to the point fo raping someone I see why you're be pissed but there are also those who DO make their intentions clear (and get this, don't pressure anyone!) and these are the people I'm talking about that you also feel free to look down upon so I ask you again; their reasons for sex are different than yours. So?

And for your last statement I reiterate: Dating is about luck and failure. A rejection by one guy who happened to be hornier than most isn't a wide rejection by all guys. I hope she can get over it and move on.

See, there's nothing wrong with that statement in and of itself. It actually reinforces the previous maturity if understanding what you find necessary in a long-term relationship. But you have walked up to the line of what could be construed as arrogant to some folks. Some folks would read that and say, "What makes you think you deserve anything?" It might be nitpicking, but you can see where that reaction comes from, at least.

I know you're not actually saying that but to rebuke that line of thinking...why shouldn't I deserve the partner that I want? Contrary to what some people would have you believe, I'm not some freak that only cares about sex and is jerking off nonstop and likes to make girls feel like crap for not giving into my demands. Every decent person deserves happiness (as long as it's not at the expense of others as Ayn Rand would just love) and I think I'm decent enough.

[Leader Desslock]

I know you're not actually saying that but to rebuke that line of thinking...why shouldn't I deserve the partner that I want?
Why should anyone deserve anything in this life, really? My personal take is that we all try as hard as we can, and if we get what we've earned, that's great. If we don't get what we've earned, that's life. Of course, there are lots of folks who don't earn what they get, but I like to think that those of us who HAVE earned what we get are happier in our accomplishments.

You're right, though. I wasn't personally saying that, I was merely predicting the potential for reaction from that statement. :)

[Shiroiyuki]

When you don't have to resort to ad hominems or look down upon others of differing viewpoints than yours to try to emphasize your fragile arguments then we can continue the discussion like adults.

Funny, coming from someone who was working with an argument more suited for a bratty child back there. 'In the example of the requirement of sex, for me compromises must be made; if not sex then making out or petting to substitute.' That really isn't 'mature' or 'adult like' in my mind.

Fragile arguments? I'm making serious points here, try to keep up. I was under the impression that you basically forced your partner to either have sex, or become the victim of a breakup. Hell, you say you can wait, but then contradict yourself completely. What kind of an argument disagrees with itself?

As for your points...

By the way I love how you ignore that I said that I value emotion and lust equally in a relationship. I know what I want and go after it. If my mate's goals don't coincide with my own then nothing is forcing them to stay along. Actually I'd encourage them to go find someone else because I know it wouldn't work out. I want a healthy sexual appetite and a caring person. I'm not going to prolong anything that doesn't fit this criteria.

So...do you just carry around a sign that says, 'Sex or bust' all day? Do you actually tell your potential girlfriend, 'go out with me only if you want to have sex', before you ask them out? Otherwise, they might not know about your intentions and actually start falling for you not knowing your hidden agenda.

See I view sex as more of a physical activity than anything else. I want someone who sees the same way.
So what do you view unplanned pregnancy as? The unfortunate spoils of the sport? Because just because a woman may be willing to make love to you (and I use this term loosely here), that doesn't necessarily mean she is also willing to have an abortion. I don't think you are planning on settling down and raising children any time soon...so....

Obviously our views differ so this argument is pointless but tell me...why do you insist on using such a condescending tone?

I actually wasn't trying to use a condescending tone at all. I was simply trying to state my (STRONG) opinion on this matter. As I've said before...I've seen these things happen before....and they aren't good.

No, sex is a requirement in my romantic relationships. And when I say that I deserve something, I mean I deserve a mate who fits or almost fits my ideal woman. Tell me why shouldn't I deserve this exactly again? And note that I never said I deserved anything from someone who's unwilling to put out, I said that I deserve someone who fits my expectations. Anyone who isn't willing to put out I'll cut the thing off.
The figurative thing, or...literally....? :P Sorry, couldn't help myself there...

Anyways, I was under the impression that you basically were holding too high of expectations over these women--pressuring them to put out even if they didn't want to. You have to admit, some of your posts back there did seem a little 'demanding' or whatnot. Hey, and like I said before--if you find a woman willing, the more power to you. I just hope you work out everything (what will happen if she gets pregnant, etc.) beforehand.

Is it because I WANT sex and aren't afraid to ask for it that you're so pissy? And for the record I'm not looking for "a girl with class", I'm looking for an intelligent fully fledged human being who doesn't subscribe themselves to gender roles and isn't afraid to ruck in the muck (literally and figuratively speaking!).

So you basically want educated trailer trash? No classy girls for you, you know...the ones with those pesky things called morals...and enough common sense not to do stupid things? Oh and for the record, classy girls don't equal 'prudish, suppressed women who can't have fun'. Jeez...

I can wait. But I have standards of my own and physical intimacy is one of those. If the other party doesn't feel up to this then I will break it off because to me it doesn't feel like a relationship, it feels like a friendship.

A relationship doesn't equal sex. Sex is one of the later perks of a serious (love involved) relationship. It shouldn't be used against a person (as in the case of, 'before six months time or else'), it should be something done out of love. Sure, people don't think that nowadays...but with all the diseases floating around out there (and the ever-present threat of unplanned pregnancy) you'd think more people would adopt such a frame of mind.

Sure it can be meaningful with the one you love but even then, it's nothing more than a bunch of dirty smells and nasty fluids.

Wow, I can tell you don't usually do it with people you love. Yeah, those are the physical aspects of it--but there are emotional strings attached. It's more than just those 'mechanical' features--if you wait for someone you love, it can open up a whole world of wonderful feelings and pleasures. And I'm not talking just the dirty ones, either. It is a wonderful, fulfilling experience if done with someone you love. You make it sound like a cheap thrill.

And for your last statement I reiterate: Dating is about luck and failure. A rejection by one guy who happened to be hornier than most isn't a wide rejection by all guys. I hope she can get over it and move on.

It depends on the reasons behind the breakup. If you two are just not compatible (i.e. you like different things, you two just don't feel the 'spark', etc.) yeah, that pain will hurt--but it will disappear with time. If the breakup is over something like she wouldn't have sex with you, then that will leave some emotional scars. Say she may have felt the world for you, but her beliefs just didn't permit her to engage in such endeavors. You break up with her. She wonders if she would be better off just putting out, becoming a **** like it seems you were after.

If you break up with her over such things, she will know for a fact that you were just using her for sex. That will crush someone who actually felt an attraction to you.

Contrary to what some people would have you believe, I'm not some freak that only cares about sex and is jerking off nonstop and likes to make girls feel like crap for not giving into my demands.

Your list of 'favorite things' in your profile seems to say differently there.

[MagicianCamille]

if not sex then making out or petting to substitute.' That really isn't 'mature' or 'adult like' in my mind.

You must have had one hell of a childhood. :O

Ya know, I don't agree with Loopy, and do find his comments slightly repulsive, however....damn, lost my train of thought.

Ya know though, I don't see how anybody can say they DESERVE another human being. This is the 90's isn't it? Or somewhere around there. Point is, people are complicated, you need to have more respect for women(XD), and Shiroi and Dess need to stop driving me to the knife's end with this will they won't they crap.

[Shiroiyuki]

You must have had one hell of a childhood. :O

That was actually the phrasing he came up with. I just cited it in my rebuttal.

and Shiroi and Dess need to stop driving me to the knife's end with this will they won't they crap.
Wow.....happy birthday by the way.

[MagicianCamille]

Awww, love you too Shiroi. ^_^

That's relevant to the thread topic by the way. What I look for in the opposite SEX is somebody who recognizes my birthday.

Sorry Char, I know your DELETE POST finger was really itchin' too.

[Rain]

Y'know, I'm actually with Loopy here. He deserves whatever he wants sexually...well, until the day he starts physically pressuring girls to have sex with him. I'm totally with him on the notion that casual sex is fine if it's consensual.

@Shiroiyuki - You need to sort of calm down because it seems like you're being a little condescending. I mean, he merely stated what he finds attractive in a mate. You didn't have to "pounce" on him like white on rice, I bet he wasn't expecting that.

He likes sex, so what? All men love sex; there's no denying that. Hell, I know a lot of horny chicks with sex drives that are off the wall. Actually, let me rephrase that: All men and women like sex. Non? Maybe except the "asexual" ones if you catch my drift. We all do, to a certain extent, and there are varying degrees of it.

I see his point and I don't think he's just some lustful, lascivious freak who's a mindless satyr - which is apparently what you're making him out to be.

[Gannon]

Sex really puts a strain on the relationship anyways

:lol:

The girl becomes too attached and wants a commitment (that usually doesn't happen)

Oh well.

then things get awkward and someone is bound to get hurt.

Her.

If she isn't ready, she isn't ready.

If she isn't ready-- BYE.

Why not just wait and see if the relationship develops into something more seriously (In due time)

Oh no need. I already know it's not.

rather than ruin it by unnecessary pressure.

The best players always perform best in clutch situations ;).

Men who have sex with every chick in sight aren’t a big turn on either, you know?

We're men. Deal with it.

[Reidar]

He likes sex, so what? All men love sex; there's no denying that.

Yes there is. Deny.

[Rain]

Who're you speaking for? I was actually contemplating on whether I should've put "most" instead of "all."

[Reidar]

I'm speaking for myself.

Now I can sleep at night.

[Rain]

Figured. But I'm not convinced.

[Reidar]

How so? Then why did you have second thoughts about putting "all"?

[Rain]

Because, for all I know, you could be saying that just to prove me wrong. Anyway, I'm still not convinced, I think all men have an innate carnal desire. I think yours is just repressed; either that or you refuse to acknowledge said desire.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

How so? Then why did you have second thoughts about putting "all"?

Because some men are just limp.

[Leader Desslock]

Because, for all I know, you could be saying that just to prove me wrong. Anyway, I'm still not convinced, I think all men have an innate carnal desire. I think yours is just repressed; either that or you refuse to acknowledge said desire.
Well, you might want to look up a term called "hypoactive sexual desire". Something like 25% of Americans are believed to have some degree of it (1/3 of women, 1/5 of men).

More details here:

http://www.behavenet.com/capsules/disorders/hyposexdesdis.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypoactive_sexual_desire_disorder

Those stats might be a bit inflated, but still - it appears to be an observationally significant percentage. Enough to reasonably rule out the idea that "all men have an innate carnal desire". Most do, but not all, it seems.

[Spadesy]

Some things you can't believe because of studies. I really do think we men are wired in that way, and there's nothing wrong with that so long as it isn't expressed to the point of interfering with social interaction.

[Rain]

What? So, it's a disorder, now?

"Inhibited sexual desire (ISD), sometimes called frigidity, sexual aversion, sexual apathy or hypoactive sexual desire, refers to a low level of sexual desire and interest manifested by a failure to initiate or be responsive to a partner's initiation of sexual activity."

I didn't say that every man had a hyperactive sexual desire. Hey? Who knew, there's also a hyperactive sexual desire disorder, too. Going by that statement above, it means that they do, in fact, have a sexual desire - it's just at a lower level than usual.

"Treatment must be individualized to the factors that may be inhibiting sexual interest."

Inhibiting? Didn't I just say something about repression?

A. Persistently or recurrently deficient (or absent) sexual fantasies and desire for sexual activity. The judgment of deficiency or absence is made by the clinician, taking into account factors that affect sexual functioning, such as age and the context of the person's life.

Well, I wanna know the percentage of Americans who have ISD who have been diagnosed by their clinicians to have an absence of sexual fantasies or desire for sexual activity.

Okay, how about libido instead of carnal desire?

[HSaabedra]

In my travels around the world and the myriad romantic and casual relationships I've had, I've come to the conclusion that women continually will lie and manipulate if given the opportunity. I seem to attract the worst examples of the opposite sex, and yet I'm the one to blame for the relationship collapsing because I'm not sexually attractive enough to them close the deal. They've all said they love me and I loved them, but what good is saying that you love someone if you won't show them the ultimate expression of it? Being hispanic, it's very hard for someone with my personality traits to attract someone worthwhile, not to mention the body image and confidence issues that arise when you have a disability. I'm supposed to be a casanova of some sort, but I never saw myself that way. I just don't want to be the nice guy anymore. Not if it means continually being lied to and being manipulated. What's the point of putting up with all the games? Yes, I would like to have sex with someone, but not if it means that I have to get shot down everytime I go out and look for it. I'm pretty much stuck and I'm still figuring this out.

[Leader Desslock]

Hey? Who knew, there's also a hyperactive sexual desire disorder, too.
...more commonly known as Nymphomania...

Going by that statement above, it means that they do, in fact, have a sexual desire - it's just at a lower level than usual.
Well, yeah. It's meant to be sort of a spectrum. At the end of the spectrum is zero. Most people aren't at the end. Psychology is about shades, not absolutes.

Inhibiting? Didn't I just say something about repression?
Yes and no. Read the information and you might notice that there's debate on whether to even label this as a 'disorder' at all. Clearly for some people it is, but there are some people who consider asexuality to be a natural state of human existence for some people. It's sort of like the "is homosexuality a disease or a natural inclination" issue. Some view it as a disease, some view it as a natural variance. If it doesn't cause any problem for the individual, it wouldn't necessarily be considered a disorder.

At any rate, my only point was to provide objective support for the idea that not all men (or women) have a significant libido. That's it. Wasn't meant to start a debate.

Well, I wanna know the percentage of Americans who have ISD who have been diagnosed by their clinicians to have an absence of sexual fantasies or desire for sexual activity.
Um.... that's what it means. People with ISD aren't just stifling a 'normal' libido - their libido is inactive. If they're stifling an otherwise 'normal' libido, it'd be classified differently, depending on how it manifested iself.

Again, not trying to spark a debate, just trying to apply the perspective of modern psychiatric diagnosis to that point of the discussion.

They've all said they love me and I loved them, but what good is saying that you love someone if you won't show them the ultimate expression of it?
I suggest you research the concept of Courtly Love. :)

You know, I sympathize, but it sounds like you've just had some bad experiences. Maybe it's you, maybe its them, maybe it's both. Maybe you're destined to be alone your whole life, or maybe you'll stumble across your soulmate tomorrow. There are no guarantees, and not only is Dame Fortune fickle, but her wheel turns both ways. I'd suggest just being yourself, try to encourage opportunities to meet people, and if it happens, it happens. What happens, happens, and what doesn't isn't worth worrying about. (which I expect you know)

[HSaabedra]

Ah, Desslock, as always your advice is appreciated when given. Thank you. I didn't mean to come off as whiny or desperate. I just hate being reminded of my past relationships. As far as this goes, if I don't see any action by 22, I'll have to become celibate. (When I was young I said I would get married at 22, which sounded strange coming out of a six year old.)

[Leader Desslock]

As far as this goes, if I don't see any action by 22, I'll have to become celibate.
Only 22 and you're actually worried about this? Eh, you have PLENTY of time.

I'd be more worried if you said you found your soulmate at that age. :lol:

[HSaabedra]

I'm 21 and loving every minute of it, although the promise I made to my highschool crush will remain if I haven't found anyone by my highschool reunion. The day I find my soulmate is the day I sear into arm with a branding iron.

[master terrence]

I read that running can treat and prevent erectile dysfunction. Good for me -_-;

[Chousho]

They've all said they love me and I loved them, but what good is saying that you love someone if you won't show them the ultimate expression of it?
Ultimate expression? Being made supper?