Kannazuki No Miko

[Levon]

This anime is the first time I can't stand Super Robots & wish it was removed from the show, its a horrid attempt. The scenes make me cringed<_< Its a bad mix IMO.

But the yummy romance is good:wub:



I guess if I had it my way I would've made this a hentai:P

[Crawlspace]

I watched the second volume yesterday. It's pretty good. There wasn't as much mecha action in the second volume thank goodness. I am looking foward to seeing how it will end. I hope it's happy.
Just make sure you watch through the end credits on the last episode. A lot of anime fans realize this is a necessary thing in any series, but just as a reminder...

[VidelCoolGirl]

Just make sure you watch through the end credits on the last episode. A lot of anime fans realize this is a necessary thing in any series, but just as a reminder...

I never even finished the series. I need to go ahead and forget the mecha aspect and watch it all. Can't start an anime series and then not finish it. Although now I sorta want to cath the credits of the last episode.

Man, I used to be all about the shoujo-ai. I've grown out of it. Weird..

[DazzleKitty]

Just make sure you watch through the end credits on the last episode. A lot of anime fans realize this is a necessary thing in any series, but just as a reminder...

Thanks for the heads up. I usually fast forward through the credits to see if there is anything extra at the end.

[earsofdoom]

it's not very hard to watch past the credit's for each episode.... since the music is owesome (first episode i re-played both the OP and ED like 5 time's lol) im surprised peaple don't watch past the credit's since there is almost alway's something at the very end (especially in video game's).

[Yukito Kunisaki]

it's not very hard to watch past the credit's for each episode.... since the music is owesome (first episode i re-played both the OP and ED like 5 time's lol) im surprised peaple don't watch past the credit's since there is almost alway's something at the very end (especially in video game's).

Yea, me too. I have one thing to disagree with you on though....episode one didn't have an opening...so how is that possible? :P YES! Kotoko rocks, and I think her PV is awesome...how it does what Kannazuki does at the end of the opening...has two girls holding hands facing the opposite way, its neat :).

[shezaei_neko]

Like in my avvie?? :P
BTW, does anyone have a favorite BGM of KnM??
Mine is Chikane's theme in piano and orchestra versions. It's just wonderful....I have others but these are the ones I like the most!

[Yukito Kunisaki]

Hmm...i dont have a favorite BGM YET, but I soon will, trust me, haha.

As for the PV, its when they are holding hands at the shrine and the camera zooms out off them at the end of the song. It happens in the Re-Sublimity music video, haha.

[Milky Mixer]

Been meaning to find my way back to this thread and post my comments, having had a chance to complete the first dvd of KnM.

Yknow, I really didn't have a bad reaction to the mecha and I don't see why everyone thinks they're out of place. Made as much sense to me as anything else in the show, like those elaborate school uniforms or that kitten chick with the giant needle. Heh, I guess that sounded a bit sarcastic - but I'm just saying, I liked the mecha stuff. I thought they were neatly designed, and I'm anxious to see what kind of mecha the cute J-pop chick in the yellow thigh highs ends up piloting. She stood out to me, between being incredibly cute and incredibly interested in herself, not to mention being voiced by the fantastic Reba West (aka Minmei from Robotech). Can't wait to see more of her.

As for the central plot and love story... Well, I like it, though I have to say Himeko's whineyness (I don't know what other word to use... lack of self-confidence maybe?) and her overly delicate voice kinda gets on my nerves. I know I keep comparing this show to Shamanic Princess, and really there's no reason to since the two are really nothing alike at all, but I wouldn't mind if Himeko was a bit fiestier and headstrong like SP's Tiara or Mika in Geneshaft. At least not such a priss. But I guess that would detract from the relationship with Chikane, who is obviously the stronger of the two and the "princess charming" to Himeko's non-confident "cinderella." She's got the money, the looks, the talent, the big boobs, etc. Really it's kinda funny to see the cliches in yuri aren't that different from the cliches in yaoi, or any other shojo-type show. The pretty poor girl with no confience comes into her own and encounters the petty jealousy of her peers as she befriends/romances the popular student. What's next? Chikane shows a hidden dark side that scares Himeko? Again, it sounds like I am complaining... but I did enjoy the show. I guess I am just critiqueing. Of course, one of the more interesting aspects of the show to me is Chikane's personality and I think Michelle Ruff does a good job on the dub. I like that the girls have a secret lunch and a secret friendship behind the bushes, that they have a special bond because of their shared birthday before they even know they have a special bond because of their "reincarnated shrine maiden" fate. Throwing in the boy as the third wheel of the triangle is also an interesting touch. And I get the feeling from all the gushing on this forum that ultimately Himeko will choose the girl over the guy (this is the yuri forum, after all!) which, moving beyond my critiques of anime cliches, is a great thing for gay folks who understand that sometimes even the perfect person of the opposite sex just isn't the one we really wanna be with.

So that's my 2 cents. I plan to pick up volume 2 when I can get some cash... I'll stick with this one to the end, especially since it seems like many on here feel the series improves as it gets closer to the end.

[earsofdoom]

I'm not sure if Chikane could be considered the "Lead" in the relationship, she's really scared to do anything or even hint to Himeko that she like's her (like when she's going on the date with Oogami and she reach's out to her... but when Himeko turn's around the door is closed and Chikane is on the other side looking really down) regardless im sure you'll be surprised near the end. (let's just say both girl's are on equal ground, no Uke and Seme which is really nice becouse alot of the time you get the feeling that some character's are a man in a women's body or vice versa it's rare that you see couple's whom are feminine... just becouse a girl is a lesbian doesn't mean she's a "man" )

About the whinnyness... Near the end of the show Himeko stop's whining and become's a stronger person, so far she's the only whiny character I've seen who does

Souma perfect!?! :blink: "faint's"

[shezaei_neko]

Originally posted by earsofdoom
Souma perfect!?! :blink: "faint's"

:lol: That was quite hilarious....
I agree with earsofdoom, I don't think Chikane is the "lead" (just like others yaoi/yuri anime)....Chikane looks stronger but just wait till the end......

[ZoharContact]

So that's my 2 cents. I plan to pick up volume 2 when I can get some cash... I'll stick with this one to the end, especially since it seems like many on here feel the series improves as it gets closer to the end.Well, it's nice to hear that you intend to continue watching, because it really picks up in the second half.

One thing I notice about a lot of good games and anime, though, is a tendency to appear cliched at the beginning. They are inclined to swing around in the second half, and this series does swing. ^_^ I think there are a lot of similar series that don't reach a significant audience because they don't give it the chance it deserves. At any rate, people seem to like this series either despite or even as a result of what I consider are its shortcomings.

In any case, if you weren't horrified by the cat girl and her "Nya Nya", you'll probably like this series.

[shezaei_neko]

From all the Orochi, I liked Korona and Reiko the most.
Even if they didn't have an important role (at least not in the anime), were the ones that caught my attention.

[Milky Mixer]

Originally posted by earsofdoom


:lol: That was quite hilarious....
I agree with earsofdoom, I don't think Chikane is the "lead" (just like others yaoi/yuri anime)....Chikane looks stronger but just wait till the end......

He seems nice enough to me. So far, anyway. So I don't get what's so "quite hilarious" about it. But I guess I'll figure things out as the series continues.

And it wouldn't be your average girly, shojo-ish story if the poor, timid girl didn't find her own inner strength by the end of the series, would it? ;)

I still like Chikane the most. And the j-pop girl.

[Milky Mixer]

In any case, if you weren't horrified by the cat girl and her "Nya Nya", you'll probably like this series.

After Nia in DearS, this nurse girl isn't that freaky. She sorta reminds me of that nurse in Soultaker. Didn't she have pink hair and a giant needle too?

[Milky Mixer]

From all the Orochi, I liked Korona and Reiko the most.
Even if they didn't have an important role (at least not in the anime), were the ones that caught my attention.

I don't know which one is which. They have names? Heh! I thought the j-pop girl was the coolest, but again, maybe because Reba West is doing the voice - so she's like Lynn Minmei gone bad. Not so into the purple-haired cross girl with the glasses, but the guy with the chains who didn't like Chikane's big boobs was sorta cool.

[Milky Mixer]

(like when she's going on the date with Oogami and she reach's out to her... but when Himeko turn's around the door is closed and Chikane is on the other side looking really down)

I thought that was a very touching moment. And yes, it gives some depth to Chikane's character.

[Yukito Kunisaki]

I don't know which one is which. They have names? Heh! I thought the j-pop girl was the coolest, but again, maybe because Reba West is doing the voice - so she's like Lynn Minmei gone bad. Not so into the purple-haired cross girl with the glasses, but the guy with the chains who didn't like Chikane's big boobs was sorta cool.

Girochi is the chain one. I like Tsubasa, I only saw three episodes (Other anime got in the way, and haven't touched my DVDs until yesterday for a while =\) and the way the episode ended with him...kicked ***. I have always wanted to see what he is like. The first neck looks like that badass that almost every anime has to have, but idk what he is like, so he may not be, but that is my first impression :).

[ZoharContact]

The first neck looks like that badass that almost every anime has to have, but idk what he is like, so he may not be, but that is my first impression :).You have no idea. ^_^ Tsubasa is awesome, particularly towards the end.

The rest are mostly... eh... The Second (nun) is interesting, but the way the catgirl ends her sentences hurts my brain. If you ask me, she and Girochi reflect badly upon the entire lot. The rest are neat, albeit very silly in concept. (The J-pop girl throws lipstick!)

[earsofdoom]

You have no idea. ^_^ Tsubasa is awesome, particularly towards the end.


Indeed, at first i though he was just a shameless bishie plug (inuyasha anyone lol) but he's actually rather deep, one of my favourite villain's despite his limited screen time. also... he was the only one who knew exactly what Chikane was doing becouse he did the same thing himself, hurting someone he loved in order to save them. that's why he left.... well besides the fact Chikane was gonna kick his *** lol

(The J-pop girl throws lipstick!)

to bad for her Chikane throw's arrow's ;)

[shezaei_neko]

Tsubasa was cool!! I liked how he kicked Souma's a** the first time they fought. :cheers:
And how his tragic past made him understand the truth behind Chikane's actions.

And here's the list of the name of the Orochi members:
Miyako - the nun
Tsubasa - the bad a** villain
Girochi - the psycho with chains
Reiko - the manga master
Korona - the j-pop idol (yeah, number 69... :lol: )
Nekoko - the cat girl with the BIG needle
Souma - the character I hate the most

[Yukito Kunisaki]

Lol, I love when Nekoko and Girochi have the needle arguement in episode 3, that was awesome xD

"I love giving shots =D"

"THEN GIVE IT TO ME AND LET ME GIVE YOU ONE!"

"Nooooo, I hate getting shots =("

Damn my looking up Tsubasa pics... I just spoiled something about him -.-....

[ZoharContact]

Korona - the j-pop idol (yeah, number 69... :lol: )That's rank 68! :angry:

[Thedarksenshi]

Damnit! No one has volume 3 yet. I ordered the LE edition from animecornerstore.com. I guess Negima volume 1 and some PSP games will have to keep me busy this weekend.


Edit: Oh, it looks like animecornerstore.com got it in today! Horrah! Mine should be here early next week. :huggles:

[Crawlspace]

^It's not supposed to street until the 1st, so a lot of places don't have it yet. But there are a few on-line who are notorious for shipping early. I like ordering from these places. Can't wait to get my hands on the LE for this volume.

[shezaei_neko]

I can't wait to get the last volume, I'm dying to see the booklet :heart:

Originally posted by ZoharContact
That's rank 68! :angry:

Sorry, sorry :P I got carried away thanks to Girochi and Reiko...... :lol:

[earsofdoom]

Booklet? is it an art book?

[shezaei_neko]

Isn't it what come with the 3rd volume?
I think that one of you said so.....and yes, it could be some kind of art book.

[Crawlspace]

It's a full color booklet of some sort. I'm not sure what the exact contents are. Did they ever really say? I don't think any of us really cared. We just saw the words "Full Color Booklet" and went :heart:

[shezaei_neko]

Yeah, I know what you mean!! ^_^

[Thedarksenshi]

I just got the last dvd. The reversable cover is NICE, with Chikane and Himeko in bed together with their clothes partly off while they embrace each other. The booklet is nice, with art, character synopises, and episode commentary. I watched a little of the dub in the last episode - cheesy and cute.

[shezaei_neko]

So, the price for the DVD with the booklet was worthy?

[earsofdoom]

I just got the last dvd. The reversable cover is NICE, with Chikane and Himeko in bed together with their clothes partly off while they embrace each other. The booklet is nice, with art, character synopises, and episode commentary. I watched a little of the dub in the last episode - cheesy and cute.

Yay the booklet has art in it (i have a weakness whenever it come's to art book's.... and i have the $160 dollar xenogear's art book to prove it) I don't think i could bring myself to watch the last episode dubbed it was very dramatic/emotional/romantic, something i don't wanna laugh at due to bad voice acting, I like the reversing cover also, it look's very loveing while implying rather then showing what is likely about to happen, physical expression of love get's a bad rep (due to all the horny teenager's in highschool's that are getting pregnet and stuff like that) but really it has allot of meaning.... though i could just be looking into it to deeply :redface: in any case im very impressed with all the extra's. now if only we could get a cover with a very-sleepy-Himeko resting her head on Chikane's shoulder (i think that would be very cute)

[shezaei_neko]

I can't wait to put my hand in that booklet!!! >.<
I was just thinking, if someone could do a fan-art of Chikane and Himeko using the very first scene of the Tsubasa Chronicles manga....it's would be very very touching and kinda angst....

[Thedarksenshi]

^ The last episode dub is pretty good. It's still cheesy as cheese wiz, but Michelle Ruff and Jennifer Sekiguchi put on a great performance. The dub script sticks very close to the Japanese. The ending is very sweet, whether listening to the sub or the dub.

[earsofdoom]

I'm not a big fan of doujinshi (i prefer Canon) but have found a KnM doujinshi i like it's called Kannazuki doki doki it's basically just a cute scene where it's raining outside so Chikane stay's inside with himeko. definately worth reading if you like doujin... i think it's from Tailand though

[ZoharContact]

I can't wait to put my hand in that booklet!!! >.<
I was just thinking, if someone could do a fan-art of Chikane and Himeko using the very first scene of the Tsubasa Chronicles manga....it's would be very very touching and kinda angst.... ...Now that you mention it, I would really like to see a Kannadzuki no Miko fan art project by Clamp... in the style they used to use with Rayearth and X.

Well, it's nice to dream, anyway.

Although, that will never change the fact that I really like KnM's art style, particularly Chikane-sama's eyes, especially in a side profile shot. ^^

[Milky Mixer]

So is the book a decent book with nice binding and lots of pages, a real professional-quality deal, or is it just some cheapy pamphlet that's stapled together that Geneon is charging an extra 10 bucks for? I haven't decided if I'm going to go with the standard or "book included" release yet. More info please...

[earsofdoom]

I can't wait to put my hand in that booklet!!! >.<
I was just thinking, if someone could do a fan-art of Chikane and Himeko using the very first scene of the Tsubasa Chronicles manga....it's would be very very touching and kinda angst....

ask and you shall recieve

http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clamp2oe0.jpg

It's a clamp style image... so at least you got half your wish :P

[shezaei_neko]

Woah! Not bad..... ^_^
thanks for the pic!! :bow:

[shezaei_neko]

FINALLY!!! I got my precious box-set with the 3 volumes!!! :heart:
I must say the art is wonderful!! I've never seen these images before and are soooo touching!!
I can't have enough of these girls!! :teehee:

P.S sorry for the double post! >_<

[earsofdoom]

if you have a scanner plz scan them, the canadian member's can't get thing's on release date "cough" me "cough" ^_^

[Levon]

^ The last episode dub is pretty good. It's still cheesy as cheese wiz, but Michelle Ruff and Jennifer Sekiguchi put on a great performance. The dub script sticks very close to the Japanese. The ending is very sweet, whether listening to the sub or the dub.

Jennifer Sekiguchi sounds far too fake sweet of a voice for my taste. A better voice would be Carrie Savage, her voice is like Japanese cute^_^

Oh yeah, & Melissa Charles as Miyako is HOT. A different role from what she does most of the time(young cute girls).

[shezaei_neko]

I'll scan all the images I can.....Just be patient....BTW, some might be censured if I post them in imageshack or photobucket.....so I'll scan them and send me a p.m to send them to you.... ^_^

[Milky Mixer]

So what is the vol. 3 book like, people?

[earsofdoom]

So what is the vol. 3 book like, people?

opp's sry i meant to answer your question but i forgot, it a little mini artbook with some other stuff in it.. you don't only get that though you also get a beutiful pencil board (if you bought the special set you now have 3 beutiful pencil board's to make ppl jealous with)

[Milky Mixer]

It sounds kind of cheap... the book I mean.

Is it a decent quality softcover book with nice binding and nice pages and so on or is it just some cheapy insert with some pictures in it on cheapy paper and stapled together? I remember the Sailor Moon movies coming with little books about the Sailor Scouts and I thought they seemed cheapish... so I sorta expected this to be relatively the same thing. Is the book about the same size as the dvd case itself or even hidden inside the case?

Doesn't the pencil board come with both the standard and book-included versions?

[earsofdoom]

It sounds kind of cheap... the book I mean.

Is it a decent quality softcover book with nice binding and nice pages and so on or is it just some cheapy insert with some pictures in it on cheapy paper and stapled together? I remember the Sailor Moon movies coming with little books about the Sailor Scouts and I thought they seemed cheapish... so I sorta expected this to be relatively the same thing. Is the book about the same size as the dvd case itself or even hidden inside the case?

Doesn't the pencil board come with both the standard and book-included versions?

It should, as for the booklet im not sure ive only seen scan of the page's (it look's pretty) sadly i live in canada so we get thing's very late.... and anime shop's are few and far between so it's gonna be a bit till i can get my hand's on them :(

[earsofdoom]

http://www.shoujoai.com/forum/topic_show.pl?tid=26997;pg=48

Somebody posted the commentary on episode 12 on here, a MUST read!

"....mercilessly, the moment of farewell will soon visit them. With "Kannazuki no Miko," we started out by putting together this last scene's image during our first meeting. More than anything else, they chose the road they will both travel together when they meet again...no matter what kind of trial should be waiting for them ahead...they will walk together holding each other's hand firmly. "This moment will not be defeated by any eternity, god or destiny. There's no way it'll be defeated." This promise they made amidst the flurry of blowing flower petals is also a way of saying "Listen up!! Ame no Murakumo!"

^my favourite part

[Crawlspace]

It sounds kind of cheap... the book I mean.

It's not a book. It's a booklet (pages stapled in the middle from what I've seen of pictures. Haven't held mine yet), in full color. Some really nice pictures and a ton of information are included in it. I wouldn't call it cheap looking, but it is a fan item that probably wouldn't interest casual viewers. But the price will keep most of them away from it anyway, while the fans revel in it.

[Jeyl]

Still waiting for mine. =(

[DazzleKitty]

I finished watching the last volume tonight. It had a very sweet ending, but there were waaay too many mecha battles. I wish they would have done away with those parts and found some other sort of battle method.

[shezaei_neko]

Well, the booklet has the characters profile.
Commentaries from the staff for every episode, and some are of the series in general.
Not too much images tough...

[shezaei_neko]

Sorry for double-posting.....
But after watching KnM like 5 times....I'm really glad that Chikane and Himeko were together....
Souma was just weak.....he's very arrogant. I specially hate him whenever he's punching something......
And in ep. 9 & 10 when he's "training"....why does he have to harm nature??

[earsofdoom]

out of curiosity has any checked out deviant art lately? there is a ton of beutiful sketch's drawn for chikane and himeko

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/31500097/?qo=35&q=kannazuki+no+miko

one of my fav's...It's almost perfect.

...which remind's me i gotta get back to drawing so i don't feel like i wasted a bunch of money on inking supplie's.

[shezaei_neko]

I just found 2 pics in a site that are breathless. I'm not sure if one of the pics is a fan-art but ir lovely!! :heart:
I'll try to post them later....

[semaj550]

Yea, I'm so happy! I finally finished KnM with my girlfriend and it's now her favorite anime, overtaking Full Metal Panic!

I think anyone would have a hard time not being moved by Chikane and Himeko if they take a serious look at their relationship.

I would really love to see a nice OVA showing a week in the life of Chikane and Himeko after their embrace in the crosswalk. It would probably be a bit fluffier than the series but I just can't get enough of those two.

[shezaei_neko]

I agree. It'd be nice. I just hope that Geneon will make it.
After all, in the booklet thay said that this isn't the end.....

[earsofdoom]

Apperantly in Disgea 2 there is a gun called "Takemikazuchi" and in it's description it say's "not to be confused with the giant robot's" im currently playing the game and hope to find it soon (wouldn't it be cool if Chikane and Himeko were recruitable character's in the game? that would be the best cameo ever... o and the bossfight for the level could be souma in his mecha)

[Defiled one]

I only like this anime becasue it had the guts to deal with The "Big thing" those who saw the episodes know what i am talking about..the mecha, well it would be better if they didnt put it....saved them money it was just a mixture, that could be perfected more....

Although one thing that learned in this anime... is that when you write a story...there has to be that jelousy to the point off..."spoilers"....if you take off the mecha, its a wonderfull series.

[semaj550]

I only like this anime becasue it had the guts to deal with The "Big thing" those who saw the episodes know what i am talking about..the mecha, well it would be better if they didnt put it....saved them money it was just a mixture, that could be perfected more....

Although one thing that learned in this anime... is that when you write a story...there has to be that jelousy to the point off..."spoilers"....if you take off the mecha, its a wonderfull series.

What exactly are you referencing? Episode 8?

[earsofdoom]

hmmm... apperently Kaishaku is makeing another manga and Chikane and Himeko make somewhat of a cameo (Himeko in this one is named HimIko lol) as usual im guessing the story will suck but it will have very pretty art to look at, and then an anime team will license and then make the plot workable (it's been going that way for awhile now) my main hope's for this is if it get's licensed and turned into an anime then i hope they we get to see OUR chikane and himeko as cameo's (on a side note that chikane character's look's pretty with the robe.).... the main couple is boy/girl and for some reason they have mecha again (DAMNIT!!!) but to see Chikane and Himeko like character's should be nice. (i just love them and any character based on them)

[shezaei_neko]

Oh! Do you have a link for that or an image??
I'll be waiting for this! ^_^

[earsofdoom]

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/2807/1486357if3.th.jpg (http://img235.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1486357if3.jpg)

there ya go.

[shezaei_neko]

Thanks a lot!! ^_^
EDIT: I like "Chikane's" robe, looks really cool!
And Himiko, well, looks nice but the glasses.....and it looks that she's the one to begin the "action" this time......

[earsofdoom]

I was searching for tsubasa chronicale when i stumbled on this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5d360BOXYk

nice video to one of the few bishounen i like.

[typhonblue]

nice video to one of the few bishounen i like.

Telling comment. *Stores information away for later.*

[earsofdoom]

Telling comment. *Stores information away for later.*

Though he's very Bishounen the serie's is a Yuri (im taking a guess that you clicked on "last page" and just saw that post and assumed it was Yaoi anime) just incase you accidently thought it was Yaoi, Im not sure if you watch yuri or not but it would suck to download a couple of episode's and the Genre not be what you wanted. Watching the serie's just for Tsubasa isn't really worth it if you don't like Yuri.... but then again it is only 12 episode's so it might be. but if you like Yuri you'll probably enjoy both Tsubasa and the serie's.

Also im not sure if anyone here has heard of "M.U.G.E.N" but it's a fighting game engine mostly used by ppl to make character's from multiple fighting game's playable together. however im using it to creat my own fighter's and am so far working on a Chikane fighter and Tsubasa Fighter as well as a level that is the Orichi "homebase" It's nowhere near completion (makeing sprite's is tough if your new to this sort of thing) but hopefully one day ill be able to use Chikane in a 2D fighting game. (that would be owesome)

[Milky Mixer]

Ok, I finally finished this series last night and wanted to post my reactions. This post may contain SPOILERS... but I think anyone who's 20 pages into this thread is probably going to know what happens in this anime anyway. Still, saying that up front just to warn anyone to skip ahead if you don't want to be SPOILED.

Anyway, back to KnM...

I have to say, up until episode 11 this series really had me going, and not in a good way. I enjoyed the first dvd and picked up volumes 2 and 3 at Anime Weekend Atlanta last weekend. So I was all set to see "what happens next." And man, I was really angry and disappointed by the way things went with Chikane basically going evil and, well, should I use the R word to describe what she did to Himeko? I think it's completely implied that's what she did. See, I have major issues with betrayal like this in love stories, especially betrayal of the "I've gone completely psychotically evil" kind. I don't think I'll ever forgive CLAMP for the ending of Tokyo Babylon, and those who have read it know what I am talking about. I was SO PISSED at the end of volume 7 of TB, I felt so cheated, so stunned, so angry... and after the events of volume 2 of KnM, I was heading in the same direction with this series. Not only was Chikane an evil betrayer, but Himeko continued to apologize, weep, apologize, weep, and second guess herself over and over. I wanted to shake her and say, "Why are you just hanging out with that chick over coffee when she raped you???" And then Chikane betrayed her a SECOND TIME and told her she was going to kill her. Man, was I really aggravated and I was starting to wonder how much I could get on ebay for my set of dvd's. And then the final episode came along. While I can't really conclude that this show would be one of my all-time favorites, I do have to say there was a spark of genius to that final episode. I'm a fan of reincarnation themes (and not just the generic "so and so is the reincarnation of an ancient warrior" but actual karma and reincarnation themes where we see how the events of a past life or past choice affect the present... if you dig this stuff too, make sure you read Please Save My Earth as it is an amazing manga that deals with this subject in its own sci-fi soap opera way). So I really liked that Chikane "turned things around" and explained the "why" of her betrayal. I knew she couldn't be all bad, heh, but they really had me going up until that last episode. I thought it was an excellent way to redeem Chikane and also to help Himeko discard a bit of her overly-apologetic persona. Although she was coming across like a doormat for awhile, we see that ultimately she made the right choice by not giving up on Chikane and that actually, that choice, weak-minded as it originally seemed, was probably the harder choice to make. She could have simply stuck with Souma and mech'd out until Chikane and the 8 heads were defeated. And man, what an amazing ending too... they DON'T end up together... and then, they DO... even if Souma has to end up playing the Ducky role (and for those of you who have seen Pretty In Pink, ya know what I mean!). Of course we all root for the girls to end up together, but I sorta liked Souma and didn't want to see him killed or hurt simply for having feelings for Himeko. But anyway... they don't end up together, and then they do, and the viewer is left with that feeling of "Man, I hope they get it right this time around." And seeing the shell necklace in that final scene, that silly shell necklace that came with the first dvd that I was thinking, "What the heck is this silly shell necklace all about?" Well, that was a neat touch too.

So yeah, the show won me over. My only major criticism... the j-pop girl didn't get enough to do. I really liked her, especially with the dub voice by the same actress who did Minmei in Robotech (though I had to switch over to Japanese 'cause I just couldn't stand Himeko's dub voice). I do have to say, the little frozen moments of the villains - the j-pop girl being used by a man, the manga-ka feeling frustrated and self-critical, the little annoying nurse girl NOT being cared for by doctors - were also an interesting element as it provides a little bit more reason as to why these characters, rather than simply being anime cliches, fell to the "dark side." We understand them for what they are, for what any of us are, which are regular people who sometimes cannot overcome the hardships, the pain, the adversity, and the cruelty life and others we meet in life throw at us. Whether we are taken down by our own lack of self-worth, our own frustrations, or whether we are unable to overcome the evil of others, we can easily lose our own humanity. I know, maybe that's a little deep, but that's what I got out of the show.

Like I said, spoilers... but I had to in order to say what I felt I needed to say. I enjoyed the series, it ended up being a lot deeper than I thought, even if that deepness mostly was revealed in the final episode. And I'm in the minority, but I liked the mechas. I thought they were designed rather cool, though towards the end they did get a little tedious. But yeah, sorry, I like giant robots. Even in mystical reincarnated shrine maiden stories. :P

[ZoharContact]

I also dislike the trend of "lesbian reveals her hidden feelings in psychotic act of betrayal" bit. It's used way too often in yuri (and I imagine yaoi) media. Kannadzuki no Miko turned the tables, though, in that Chikane deliberately went down that path only because there was other alternative to save Himeko.

In the end, I found the plot to be a pleasant surprise. Honestly, I could probably write a substantial list of "psychotic lesbian" characters... if I wasn't really tired.

[shezaei_neko]

Milky Mixer, awesome post! You said it all about KnM. :cheers:
I'm still rooting for an OVA....

[Milky Mixer]

Awwww, shucks. Thanks for the compliment! -_-;

[Dinco]

I also dislike the trend of "lesbian reveals her hidden feelings in psychotic act of betrayal" bit. It's used way too often in yuri (and I imagine yaoi) media. Kannadzuki no Miko turned the tables, though, in that Chikane deliberately went down that path only because there was other alternative to save Himeko.

In the end, I found the plot to be a pleasant surprise. Honestly, I could probably write a substantial list of "psychotic lesbian" characters... if I wasn't really tired.
It's no secret I hate this show. Beyond being extremely stereotypical to the point where they look exactly like many other couples, I think the author got yuri and yaoi confused when he decided to do the "rape is no big deal when there's love" story line. I'm kinda glad they did that though, because it just makes this horribly generic work with Hallmark level melodrama look even worse, so whenever anyone claims it's the best yuri show there will be a lot contention.

[typhonblue]

I think the author got yuri and yaoi confused when he decided to do the "rape is no big deal when there's love" story line.

So... in order for a love story to be considered yaoi it has to include rape?

[shezaei_neko]

Originally posted by Dinco
I think the author got yuri and yaoi confused when he decided to do the "rape is no big deal when there's love" story line.

I don't get it..... -_-;

[ZoharContact]

I'm kinda glad they did that though, because it just makes this horribly generic work with Hallmark level melodrama look even worse, so whever anyone claims it's the best yuri show there will be a lot contension.I don't mean to claim whether or not it's the best yuri anime, but I will say that it's my favorite, from what I've seen.As for the rape scene, though, I thought the entire point of it was that it was supposed to be seen as a malicious act and betrayal of trust in an effort to instill hatred and disgust on Himeko's part. But it didn't. She saw right through it.You're free to have your own opinion, though, so say what you like.

[shezaei_neko]

I agree with you Zohar....
I mean, what could be worse than that for a girl?

[semaj550]

I'm in 100% agreement with Zohar on this one. The whole series doesn't work otherwise.

[earsofdoom]

Im sure most ppl have heard about that spin-off by now, though im kinda disapointed they didn't decide to do an OVA (yet.... ) our 2 favourite character's are a cannon couple from the start in this show... yep i said show it's now being animated.

http://www.kyoshiro-sora.net/chara/index.html

A link to the character page, I'm not sure about Himiko's glass's though...

http://s43.photobucket.com/albums/e358/jnspace_comic2/other/

Some scan's from the manga, im guessing a flash back, they seem very devoted to one another (and just like i thought Himeko..err Himiko is artistic)
her drawing chikane....err Kaon is just to cute.

Now if we could just get that OVA with the two of them living together, I would love to see them go on a date or Chikane introduceing her to her parent's (i imagine that would be VERY intertaining)

EDIT: It's been to long since I've provided a link to stuff for fan's.

[ZoharContact]

Thank you for the links.

It doesn't look like a happy story from the beginning, though. Apparently "Kaon" steals the "Mana" (character: love) of people she kisses... In one of the screenshots, Himiko indicates that she doesn't mind too much, however.

Also, "Kaon" seems to be working for a villain.

[DazzleKitty]

Can someone fill me in? Is there goning to be a spinoff of this anime? Wow, that's cool. How old is KnM? I figured they didn't do those kinds of things this late in the game.
It's neat if that's true. I wonder what it will be about?

[Crawlspace]

Can someone fill me in? Is there goning to be a spinoff of this anime? Wow, that's cool. How old is KnM? I figured they didn't do those kinds of things this late in the game.
It's neat if that's true. I wonder what it will be about?
I had thought it was just another series by the same creator, and Chikane and Himeko had a cameo, but that might be something else. Though it looks like a show with very similar character designs, but no ties to KnM (as if that would stop anyone if it were true). But I know nothing about it, I'm just saying that from the little tiny bit of info that I read some time ago.

[DazzleKitty]

I see. Thanks for the info, Crawlspace!

[Crawlspace]

I'm not sure I'd actually call that info, since what I said could be completely wrong. :naughty: There's a thread about it over at shoujo-ai.com. You could probably get more specific information on it there.

[shezaei_neko]

I want to know the plot of that manga....Looks good...

[VidelCoolGirl]

I can't tell what it is. It looks like a spinoff or a sequel to the series. I mean, since those other two chracters look almost exaclty like Chikane and Himeko. I'm not sure, I'll have to check it out.

[earsofdoom]

Thank you for the links.

It doesn't look like a happy story from the beginning, though. Apparently "Kaon" steals the "Mana" (character: love) of people she kisses... In one of the screenshots, Himiko indicates that she doesn't mind too much, however.

Also, "Kaon" seems to be working for a villain.

Mana for a kiss from Chikane? sound's like a good deal for Himiko ;) . I've heard some stuff from ppl translating the manga that The only reason Kaon obeying mika-sama is so that she will allow her to meet Himiko (I think she has control whether Kaon can leave there domain)

[shezaei_neko]

Woah, if what you said it's true.......I find it quite romantic...
"I don't care being manipulated by her (him...whatever) if I can see you everyday...."
And this will develop in a major drama!!

[earsofdoom]

Does anyone know what the name of the anime is? i can't ready the japanese title.

[ZoharContact]

Kyoushirou to Eien no Sora.

Kyoushirou and the Eternal Sky.

Apparently the purple-haired boy on the characters page has his name in the title.

[earsofdoom]

Dang, so it's true that Chikane and Himeko arn't the main characters? o well im sure they will get plenty of screen time. (most of the ppl showing interest in this show are KnM fan's afterall)

EDIT: Armed with the knowledge of the name of the show i was able to find a trailer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocdk7V69fg4 hope whoever watch's it know's japanese.

[Crawlspace]

Dang, so it's true that Chikane and Himeko arn't the main characters? o well im sure they will get plenty of screen time. (most of the ppl showing interest in this show are KnM fan's afterall)
It's not Chikane and Himeko, is it? I thought these characters had different names and were different people, though I admit I'm throughly confused right now. ^_^ I was under the impression that it was just the same character designs, like Mai from My Hime and her look-alike in El Hazard. Different characters, same creator.

[earsofdoom]

It's not Chikane and Himeko, is it? I thought these characters had different names and were different people, though I admit I'm throughly confused right now. ^_^ I was under the impression that it was just the same character designs, like Mai from My Hime and her look-alike in El Hazard. Different characters, same creator.

Yep they are different, i just call them Chikane and Himeko so i don't get mixed up, I'll probably start calling them by there real name's when the anime starts getting subbed. (i guess "spiritually" it's safe to call them Chikane and Himeko :P .... or something like that) I hope it does well an we get a sequal about Chikane and Himeko..... and there future adopted daughter (o my.... i think i planted a fanfiction seed ;) )

[ZoharContact]

...I have no luck with youtube. Rather, no luck with streaming.

Isn't there some way I can download the video by copying something from the page's source?

[earsofdoom]

...I have no luck with youtube. Rather, no luck with streaming.

Isn't there some way I can download the video by copying something from the page's source?

Sadly i don't know any such way, you could try re-installing flash player. I've checked all my... "device's" of wonder shareing but can't find the video anywhere for actual download :(

[shezaei_neko]

There's an official site already:
www.kyoshiro-sora.net
The characters names are:
Sora (Kuu)
Kyoshiro
Setsuna

Kaon
Himiko
Mika

Tarutotte (?)
Soujiro
Oogami Jin

[shezaei_neko]

Sorry for the double post but here I bring more info.
Guess who's making Kaon's voice and Himiko's voice....?
Yup, Miss. Ayako Kuwasumi (Chikane) and Miss. Noriko Shitaya (Himeko) will be the ones making the voices. So enjoy!! :cheers:
And something about Himiko that I read in the site:
It says in japanese: MIKA no koibitotachi no hitori.
Translation: One of Mika's girlfriends.
Meaning: We can hope for some shoujo-ai couples :cheers:

[Crawlspace]

[color=RoyalBlue]
Guess who's making Kaon's voice and Himiko's voice....?
Yup, Miss. Ayako Kuwasumi (Chikane) and Miss. Noriko Shitaya (Himeko) will be the ones making the voices. So enjoy!! :cheers:

The guy who created them said he wanted to do more with KnM and was hoping for the chance. I wonder if this is his way of doing that unofficially until he (hopefully) gets the chance to do it officially. ^_^

[VidelCoolGirl]

It says in japanese: MIKA no koibitotachi no hitori.
Translation: One of Mika's girlfriends.
Meaning: We can hope for some shoujo-ai couples :cheers:

Either that, or like the way we use it, girls that are friends.

[shezaei_neko]

:lol: Yeah true.....that's what someone says when they want to avoid the truth.....

[earsofdoom]

On shoujoai forum's someone has translated those page's, which is good cause poor zohar has enough distractions to deal with in translateing akaito (hint hint :P ) i would have posted this sooner but.... i just got my own world of warcraft account so i've been to addicted..... err i mean busy

[Crawlspace]

^Perhaps we should consider breaking off a seperate thread for this new series, rather than keeping the discussion here. Get the title, as well as the real known details into something more specific. Also would keep the thread from becoming any more intimidating for any KnM newcomers who might come along, since we've sort of gone heavily off topic with this new show.

[shezaei_neko]

I agree with that.
earsofdoom, do you have the link with the translation?
In that way we can begin the new thread....

[earsofdoom]

Unfortunately it's against forum rules to post a link to another anime forum, but the topic isn't hard to find, just look for the name mentioned her in the shoujoai forum and the picks are in there. they are hosted by someone with the username jan-chan.

[shezaei_neko]

Thanks! ^_^

[ZoharContact]

On shoujoai forum's someone has translated those page's, which is good cause poor zohar has enough distractions to deal with in translateing akaito (hint hint )By "hint hint" do you mean: a)You ARE working on it, right? b)Care to translate the story section? c) Akai Ito status update?

a) I am working on it feverishly, much to my girlfriend's chagrin.

b) The name of the anime is Kyoushirou to Towa no Sora. There really isn't much to the story section. The heroine (girl at top of character page) is seeing dreams about giant machines (-_-) and a "mysterious red haired youth." The setting is a planet that was ravaged by a disaster known as "The Great Collapse," and is mostly uninhabitable. Somewhere in there is a prestigious school, I forget the name, where the heroine and others study and do other normal things (of course, not to last long, I presume). Ruling that school is "Mika-sama" and Kaon pilots the Zettai Tenshi Murakumo as her lapdog, if you will. Lastly, the third of the three main characters, Setsuna, is another pilot of a Zettai Tenshi, fighting as Kyoushirou's partner. Basically a perfect bishoujo who doesn't show emotion on the surface.

c) As of now, I'm at page 308 and counting. However, I'm also transcribing Japanese text for ease of editing, later, so the actual translation progress would be a little more than half of that. I have no idea how much of that was done in this month alone, but that could very well include the majority of it. I might just have it done by mid-November or earlier. Of course, then I have to worry about how I should present this online.

[VidelCoolGirl]

Unfortunately it's against forum rules to post a link to another anime forum, but the topic isn't hard to find, just look for the name mentioned her in the shoujoai forum and the picks are in there. they are hosted by someone with the username jan-chan.

Off-Topic, it's against rules to post links to another anime forum? Really? Since when? Geez, that's kinda a stupid rule.

[earsofdoom]

By "hint hint" do you mean: a)You ARE working on it, right? b)Care to translate the story section? c) Akai Ito status update?


It was more of a friendly joking "nudge" type of thing, (you know, like when a girl ask who's prettier and they add "hint hint") sorry if it sounded like I was being "pushy" or anything. translateing is long and hard work, we all appreciate what your doing ^_^ .


a) I am working on it feverishly, much to my girlfriend's chagrin.


Your girlfriend's embarrassed your translateing a japanese renai game? :huh:

Off-Topic, it's against rules to post links to another anime forum? Really? Since when? Geez, that's kinda a stupid rule.

I think i remember reading it somewhere, but i don't think it's a very enforced rule but i'd still rather be on the safe side

[ZoharContact]

It was more of a friendly joking "nudge" type of thing, (you know, like when a girl ask who's prettier and they add "hint hint") sorry if it sounded like I was being "pushy" or anything. translateing is long and hard work, we all appreciate what your doing ^_^I didn't mean to sound offended. In fact, I'm rather glad you're showing interest in it. It actually gives some validity to what I'm doing. (Unfortunately, you're the only one.)

And by all means, do be pushy. I'm doing this project completely for fun, so it's typical for me to have a hiatus here and there. Sometimes interested parties need to "crack the whip," as it were.

[earsofdoom]

I didn't mean to sound offended. In fact, I'm rather glad you're showing interest in it. It actually gives some validity to what I'm doing. (Unfortunately, you're the only one.)



WHAT!? im the only one interested in this!? there's gotta be someone else, well there is one more person, a female friend of mine is also eager to read the translation's (and not much interest's her enough to stop writing naughty chikane/himeko yuri fanfiction for 5 minute's... so she must be very interested) so there's gotta be more ppl. And don't wry you didn't sound offended, just after re-reading my own post i realized i sounded a bit pushy.

O btw there are Miko robe's being sold on the KnM official site (im sure i mentioned them awhile back) and in select stores, if anyone wanted to go to a costume party this halloween dressed like one of the miko's you can get a costume ^_^


http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/31104613/?qo=28&q=kannazuki&qh=boost%3Apopular+age_sigma%3A24h+age_s cale%3A5

I had to post that fan art.... its just so pretty.

[earsofdoom]

Halloween was today in canada, I really don't care much for the holiday itself but it's fun to meet friend's at costume party's and see what they dressed up as... i was especially pleased to see one of my friend's in her luner miko robe (she had to pay a seamstress a TON to get it made) it looked really good. of course pretty much everyone had no idea who she was dressed up as.

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/5391/backgroundoj7.jpg

Some adorable chibish goodness.

[shezaei_neko]

Did you use your shell Pendant?

[earsofdoom]

Did you use your shell Pendant?

Nope she was gonna use her's but she brought up the fact chikane didn't have a shell necklace until the end, and sadly her "Himeko" lives with a deeply rooted, and traditional to boot christian family so her girlfriend couldn't cosplay with her and give her the necklace :'( .

[shezaei_neko]

That's really sad....

[earsofdoom]

That's really sad....

Don't wry they'll be just fine ^_^ , It's there last year of high school they are going to go to the same university together. Although i don't think either of there parent's will invite to other to thankgiveing dinner anytime soon.

Last night i watched the entire serie's with some friends (including those 2) and they pointed something out to me, on the last episode when Souma brings Himeko out to the hills to confess and she turns him down (they really liked that part :P ) and says "take care" then himeko say's "oogami kun!" she's trying to get him to wait for her cause he drove her that far away from school and then just leave's her there :lol: . It's a good thing Chikane didn't see him do that or she would have kicked his @#$. also does anyone know if they released the sound track over here?

[shezaei_neko]

:lol: I never thought in that way in that part...
Btw, I don't think that the OST will be released in America any time soon....

[LaFawnduh]

Sorry for digging this up,but I didn't think I should make another thread about this series.

I finally got around to finishing it the other day, and I was surprised....in episode 12 I couldn't stop crying the tears flooded out of me....I haven't cried that hard to any movie, tv show or anime series in my life.

Very good indeed.


ciao,
LaFawduh

[akutenshi00]

It sure was nice how TNK made a much better ending than Kaishaku could.

[shezaei_neko]

In fact not only a much better ending, but a much better story and everything. The manga is just plotless (IMO). The anime is a master piece compared to the manga.