View Full Version : Anime/Manga Fans vs Comic Fanboys - Who Are Tougher To Please?
NinjaJJ
March 17th, 2006, 12:25 AM
This should spark something interesting. Both sides do they share of complaining. Anime/Manga fans hate when North American media companies license an anime and change it from what it originally was (I'm looking at you 4kids Entertainment), the edits in Manga and how terrible dubs are. Comic fans are as equally as vocal. So when it's all said in done when fan is tougher to please?
Samurai Drifter
March 17th, 2006, 12:52 AM
Well, I sort of fall under both banners.
I dunno. I guess overall I get pissed of more at horrible dubbing and edits of anime, but the travesty that would have been the Bone movie was pretty bad too. Nickelodeon (I think) was making an animated movie of Jeff Smith's comic Bone a couple of years ago and wanted to turn the entire thing to kids' entertainment. It's not that Bone is adult, but there are some parts that are signifigantly darker and more violent than what you'd generally find on Nickelodeon.
Nickelodeon wanted to add in a Britney Spears song, have all the Bone cousins voiced by 10 year olds, and take out all the blood, battle, and darker story elements. Luckily Smith stopped the deal before it went through.
I think it's less about who is harder to please, and more about the boneheaded things the fatcats in both industries attempt.
Prof.Nosebleed
March 17th, 2006, 12:51 PM
I totally got lost in your enigma of poor grammar NinjaJJ, no offense. I'd have to say that otakus are harder to please.
Leader Desslock
March 17th, 2006, 01:52 PM
There's a difference?
The Million Dollar Prons
March 17th, 2006, 01:53 PM
I really havn't encountered much comic fanboys. I asume there isn't much a difference.
Drifter
March 17th, 2006, 02:07 PM
I can say this. I have not experienced anime fanboy fury, but have endured the wrath of comic book fanboys. I used to own an independent comic book label. We were at a comic book signing promoting our new books and fanboys wanted to influence the plot lines and character development. They didn't buy anything, and after they read an issue of a couple of comics we had out for people to read, tried to change the few titles we had out to Batman ripoffs. I appreciate Batman as much as the next non-fanboy but come on, do we really need another Dark Knight? Anyway that is why I say that comic fanboys are harder to please. Some, not all but some, want to take your idea and make it Batman.
Keldran
March 17th, 2006, 02:40 PM
Comic fanboys can keep a series that deserves to die kicking for 40 years, which is rather impressive.
RyoTD
March 17th, 2006, 03:24 PM
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Samurai Drifter
March 17th, 2006, 03:30 PM
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Bwahahaha, that's an awesome gif. *Right click, save as...*
The Million Dollar Prons
March 17th, 2006, 04:10 PM
Comic fanboys can keep a series that deserves to die kicking for 40 years, which is rather impressive.
You just wait, 30 years from now, anime fans will be able to say the same about Evangelion
Tama83
March 17th, 2006, 04:24 PM
In regards to "Bone", with names like "Fone Bone", "Smiley Bone", and "Phoney Bone", you'd think they were rejects from the rap group Bone Thugs -N- Harmony.
Britney Spears songs, eh? I guess it would have been worse of they had (a family-friendly version of) that song "Tha Crossroads" (sic)...
:lol:
VidelCoolGirl
March 17th, 2006, 04:26 PM
Comic fanboys can keep a series that deserves to die kicking for 40 years, which is rather impressive.
You mean like Dragonball Z?
Gannon
March 17th, 2006, 04:32 PM
You mean like Dragonball Z?
LMAO!
Owned.
Bernard_Monsha
March 17th, 2006, 08:31 PM
There's a difference?
The Anime industry does not live in mortal terror of it's fanboys, so yes.
VidelCoolGirl
March 17th, 2006, 08:37 PM
Not the anime industry, the Creators. A lot of times, creators will keep something going because their fans dont want it to die.
HitokiriShadow
March 17th, 2006, 08:46 PM
I have zero experience with comic book fans so I really can't say.
You just wait, 30 years from now, anime fans will be able to say the same about Evangelion
Yeah, but they are just keeping the discussion and/or worship of it alive. They aren't clamoring for GAINAX to make more (or at least none that I've heard) and aside from the possibility of few more Uber Editions, there probably won't be any more of it.
The Anime industry does not live in mortal terror of it's fanboys, so yes.
The last I heard, DC didn't give a damn about it's fanboys.
The Million Dollar Prons
March 17th, 2006, 09:12 PM
Yeah, but they are just keeping the discussion and/or worship of it alive. They aren't clamoring for GAINAX to make more (or at least none that I've heard) and aside from the possibility of few more Uber Editions, there probably won't be any more of it.
Yeah, sure, lets forget Girlfriend of Steel, Girlfriend of Steel 2, Evangelion 2, all the manga sidestories\alternate universe.
Actually, it's kind of the opposite, Gainax keeps making it and the fans keep clamoring for them to stop it already.
HitokiriShadow
March 18th, 2006, 09:04 AM
Well, yeah, I guess there are all of those manga. I thought most of them were doujin though.
fujyoshi
March 18th, 2006, 10:12 AM
fangirls woop all ^_^ and I should know.
goddessofanime
March 18th, 2006, 12:39 PM
This should spark something interesting. Both sides do they share of complaining. Anime/Manga fans hate when North American media companies license an anime and change it from what it originally was (I'm looking at you 4kids Entertainment), the edits in Manga and how terrible dubs are. Comic fans are as equally as vocal. So when it's all said in done when fan is tougher to please?
I'd say it's probaly a draw. I don't know anything about comic fans but all you got to do is go on a site like aintitcoolnews.com and read the kvetching.
CyberNinja5
March 18th, 2006, 01:42 PM
I barley see any comics anymore. And there isn't much of a difference between the two.
lol
March 21st, 2006, 02:48 PM
Anime/manga fans and comic fans are equally hard to please, imo.
White hell
September 18th, 2006, 07:21 PM
Comic book fans, because of one word:Continuity
Porco Rosso
September 18th, 2006, 07:30 PM
I think it's the anime/manga fanboys.
Comic fans will buy anything from their favourite franchise, even though they know there's going to be another Super Ultimate Decisive Chaotic War of the Infinite Universes campaign that will reset the whole continuity and cover up the poor decisions of the writers. Some comic series are so poorly put together that it's a surprise fans continue to buy the stuff.
Anime/manga fans get a single, linear franchise to follow and complain when there's more than one recap episode. And then there's the issues of editing, dubbing, and licensing. They're whiney.
Hexon.Arq
September 18th, 2006, 07:46 PM
Actually, it's kind of the opposite, Gainax keeps making it and the fans keep clamoring for them to stop it already.
Hear, hear. And forget the L.A.E.M.--GAINAX is making a new quadrilogy of films; an anime adaptation of... an anime. I suppose they don't want to risk people suddenly (and arbitrarilly) becoming bored of the original series after only a decade. They'd rather people become sick of it.
I've never personally met an American comic fanboy. In fact, my thirty-two year old uncle and one of his buddies are the only two people I know of who have even a passing interest in the Marvel and DC continuities.
Magami No ER
September 18th, 2006, 07:49 PM
The one comic fanboy I know quite personally will lap up anything.
Niche works like manga/anime fanpeoplez? Tougher crowd.
JuraBasilElden
September 18th, 2006, 07:56 PM
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Mikadzuki Tatsu
September 19th, 2006, 10:00 AM
I don't know any comic fanatics, so I can't say for certain who is pickier, the comic fans or the anime/manga fans. But IMO, anime/manga fans have more to whine about. Sub fanatics can whine about dubs. Manga fanatics can whine about all the changes Studio X made when animating Y series. Fluent Japanese speakers/readers can whine about translation errors. And everyone can whine about how we wish more anime and manga were available in [insert native country].
Based off that alone, I would say anime/manga fans are harder to please. But since I don't know how intense comic fans can be about their favourite franchises, I could be completely wrong.
Ketaru
September 19th, 2006, 10:25 AM
Don't know how on-topic this is, but has anybody seen a hardcore DC/Marvel fanboy rant and rave about differences between a comic version and a movie version of a superhero? It's...interesting.
Powderku
September 19th, 2006, 12:55 PM
My vote goes to comic fans being more rabid and hard to please. They really need to take a break from the fanaticism.
Prof.Nosebleed
September 19th, 2006, 01:02 PM
The biggest comic fanboy i've seen was Andy from the movie "The 40-Year-Old Virgin". Though that's a movie, which is fiction, but the main character did have an impressive collection.
I still stay to my opinion on American comic fans being tougher to please. Since their products come from within their own country, they demand it to be as good or better quality than imports (imports being manga and anime) and at a same/lower price as imports. That's why most of the stuff in my room says "made in [Asian country]".
fujyoshi
September 19th, 2006, 01:40 PM
otaku are way more harder to please. Anime is just so complex and stuff and you have ta get a certain one or they won't like it.
Vaikyuko
September 19th, 2006, 01:54 PM
The one comic fanboy I know quite personally will lap up anything.
Niche works like manga/anime fanpeoplez? Tougher crowd.
Referring to me? XD
Actually, you'd be surprised, but I'm pretty vocal about comics. I think comics walk a tighter line than anime, though, since they depend almost entirely on their fans and are losing a ridiculous amount of money due to digital piracy. As a result, they want to listen to the fans as best as they can to give them what they want. Of course, that's not necessarily the case, as Marvel allowed Millar to rewrite Venom to be the Scorpion (wtf?), DC has had some very haphazard writing, so on and so forth. I've found comic book fans to be a bit more...4channish, for lack of a better phrase, but there isn't really a difference.
Alice Catherine
September 19th, 2006, 03:25 PM
The comic fans tend to be more obsessed. When I was around 7, before I knew what the term "anime" actually was, my dad took me to a Marvel convention with him.
I swear to God it sounded like they were speaking a foreign language. And
Then again, they might have been. :P
But none of them complained about much, which was good.
I thought THEY were dumb, looking back.
But this year, I have found out about a more disturbing level of retardation that far surpasses the comic fan.
The Otaku.
AND THEY ARE SO PESSAMISTIC ABOUT EVERYTHING MADE IN AMERICA.
Someone has to wake them up and tell them that they are indeed Whitey and that Japan is halfway across the world.
Sendo Takeshi
September 19th, 2006, 03:30 PM
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Alice Catherine *shudders* actually brings up a good point. If anime pleased everyone this message board wouldn't exist. How about we go dig up some of the old great debates? We'd be searching for days.
Also, anime fans in Japan don't really give a damn about it really. Its free for them. So I would imagine this topic is about Western anime/manga fans.
Alice Catherine
September 19th, 2006, 03:31 PM
I saved that image.
Because it is HILARIOUS.
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