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ronin_manji
March 14th, 2006, 09:49 AM
I'm starting to find most of the new threads to be boaring...so I thought I'd start a new thread about this...
Who would win in a sword fight, if there was like a battle royale of any sword fighters.... The person can be from an anime a manga or a video game. Who would come out on top?
mr44mag
March 14th, 2006, 09:58 AM
Priest Alexander from Hellsing. He's got mad regeneration, spells, strength, speed, and more bayonettes than you could possibly store in warehouse.
Hisoka
March 14th, 2006, 10:04 AM
Zoro from One Piece. There are plenty of good choices to pick from, yet Zoro has done some god like things throughout the series and has amazing will power to continue on.
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ronin_manji
March 14th, 2006, 10:06 AM
I think it would be Ninja Master Gara from Bastard...the only reason he would win is because he has spells and everything...but if you wanted the fight to be fair then I would choose Manji from Blade of the Immortal.
ZeroRyoko1974
March 14th, 2006, 10:14 AM
Guts from Beserk, or Kenshin.
sazae
March 14th, 2006, 10:26 AM
Kiki, they way she handled a broom really impressed me. A sword isn't to far off.
yangster
March 14th, 2006, 10:32 AM
Kenshin Himura.
RayneShadowleaf
March 14th, 2006, 10:36 AM
*Aku's voice* Samurai Jack!
max payne
March 14th, 2006, 10:37 AM
siegfried or nightmare from sc
or dante from devil may cry
Baka Deshi
March 14th, 2006, 10:38 AM
Hiko Seijuro. No contest.
ronin_manji
March 14th, 2006, 10:42 AM
Yea... Nevermind...I've changed my vote...I KNOW for a FACT...that Guts would win. He is such a bad ***.. And he never looses.
Leader Desslock
March 14th, 2006, 10:47 AM
Nobody can defeat a watermelon like Tatewaki Kuno. Against another swordsman - eh, I'd still have to give him credit for only using a wooden sword. Sure, he can cut through rocks and trees with it, but he'd still lose.
Come to think of it, Twilight Suzuka (Outlaw Star) only uses a wooden sword as well, and she cuts through oncoming traffic and mechs with it.
So here's a good match-up: Twilight Suzuka, wearing a watermelon-styled bathing suit, versus Tatewaki Kuno dressed as a Kei Pirate. Anime Celebrity Deathmatch is ON!
max payne
March 14th, 2006, 10:50 AM
well, people can't decide who would win between a ninja and a piarte so the obvious winner would be: chris the ninja piratehttp://photobucket.com/albums/v44/saccharinesin/Icons%202/th_Chris_the_Ninja_Pirate.jpg
Samurai Drifter
March 14th, 2006, 10:51 AM
Mibu Kyoshiro from Samurai Deeper Kyo. Everyone's powers are so exaggerated in that show. (Though amusingly, what happens to him at the end kinda shows that he's not as powerful as Demon Eyes Kyo.)
Suzuka (Outlaw Star) would of course also be a contender, considering she can like destroy cars with a wooden sword.
Old Ape Face
March 14th, 2006, 11:20 AM
Mibu Kyoshiro from Samurai Deeper Kyo. Everyone's powers are so exaggerated in that show. (Though amusingly, what happens to him at the end kinda shows that he's not as powerful as Demon Eyes Kyo.)
Suzuka (Outlaw Star) would of course also be a contender, considering she can like destroy cars with a wooden sword.
you stole my votes,
oh well time for a role call
Yukimura Sanada (all time favorite anime and manga character of all time, if he hadn't become a trator i'd respect him a little bit more but it's still far more respect then Kyo or Kyoshiro, basically Kyoshiro's the yin and Kyo's the yang, End of story. Yukimura is Yin and yang put together with a little spice added in to give him more pazaz. )
Kyoshiro (Basically a stone statue Combined with the most eleit Samurai sword skills. as i've Said yoshiro's the Yin)
Demon eyes Kyo (basically the exact oposite of Kyoshiro's Stone cold face, but the added Samurai Skills. and Kyo's the yang)
Techrobo
March 14th, 2006, 11:34 AM
Suzuka (Outlaw Star) would of course also be a contender, considering she can like destroy cars with a wooden sword.
I'd like to say Chuck Norris would own them all, but since it has to be an anime/VG character I cannot. I'm going to go ahead and agree to Suzuka. She is an excellent assassin, and she's cooler than most of the other options. My choice is also partially driven by my desire to see a girl kick all the guy's *****, and by my irrational love of Outlaw Star.
CeLL_288
March 14th, 2006, 11:49 AM
I hate to bust everyone's bubble, but Trunks can destroy planets, so he would win.
But since this is really just a "who's cooler" contest, I'll go with Sephiroth.
Oni
March 14th, 2006, 11:55 AM
Maybe Guts from Sword of the berserk,
otherwise the main character from bleach I dont remember his name off had the human turned death god you all know who I mean right?
CeLL_288
March 14th, 2006, 11:56 AM
Maybe Guts from Sword of the berserk,
otherwise the main character from bleach I dont remember his name off had the human turned death god you all know who I mean right?That would be Kurosaki Ichigo.
LidorBa
March 14th, 2006, 12:18 PM
Well... Alexander from Hellsing can regenerate. That would make winning much easier since he theoretically can't die.
Also Zoro from One Piece has some moves that are made of 100% original ***-whoopin'.
Shinigami Ryuk
March 14th, 2006, 12:38 PM
Here is an okay one Chuck Norris with a steak knife vs. Bruce Lee with a plastic knife.
Also Hiei from Yu Yu Hakusho vs. Demon eyes Kyo from Samurai Deeper
Leader Desslock
March 14th, 2006, 12:42 PM
Why would Chuck Norris need a steak knife? To pry Bruce's teeth out of his knuckles after punching him into low orbit?
LidorBa
March 14th, 2006, 12:46 PM
Why would Chuck Norris need a steak knife? To pry Bruce's teeth out of his knuckles after punching him into low orbit?
:lol: :lol:
So you think Norris would win?
I go for Bruce.
Shinigami Ryuk
March 14th, 2006, 12:53 PM
Why would Chuck Norris need a steak knife? To pry Bruce's teeth out of his knuckles after punching him into low orbit?
Why you ask... because it would be very unfair if Lee had a steak knife. All Bruce has to do is watch out for the round house kick.
CrossboneGundam
March 14th, 2006, 01:38 PM
I'm starting to find most of the new threads to be boaring...so I thought I'd start a new thread about this...
Who would win in a sword fight, if there was like a battle royale of any sword fighters.... The person can be from an anime a manga or a video game. Who would come out on top?
So you start a thread whose subject has literally been done hundreds of times on this forum alone, not to mention every other anime or video game related forum on the internet?
I hate to bust everyone's bubble, but Trunks can destroy planets, so he would win.
Everyone knows Ideon wins. Destruction of the universe>destruction of one measley planet.
Caine
March 14th, 2006, 01:42 PM
Hiko. They call it godspeed for a good reason. Who else could havegotten in between Fuji and his target?
Suzuka is pretty amazing, but Hiko could stop a blow that had enough force to level a building. Next to that, cars are nothing. Plus, its almost St Patty's day, and he can outdrink any of the others
Bernard_Monsha
March 14th, 2006, 02:02 PM
Ogami Itto would kill everyone else and their mothers he would then get Daigoro to pee on Chuck Norris kill Chuck then sleep with his wife.
Leader Desslock
March 14th, 2006, 02:06 PM
Here's a candidate I'm surprised I forgot: Voltron. The Blazing Sword can take out an awful lot of acreage. :lol:
Ramen-Boy
March 14th, 2006, 02:11 PM
Inuyasha....
Why? Well, his kaze-no-kizu will pawn any normal human; however, his Bakuryuuha is also useful against enemies like Hiei. Of course, I just suggested Inuyasha because his techniques come from within his sword; sadly, he is to dependant of Tessaiga.
Don't forget about Kongousouha (Diamonds are the hardest thing on the world..) and the Dragon-Scaled Tessaiga. (With the ability to absorb the youki from his opponents and destroy their bodies with the Youketsu-slicing method.)
Ramen-Boy
March 14th, 2006, 02:15 PM
I TOTALLY FORGOT ABOUT FROG!!!!
This guy's Masamune has the ability to absorb the magic power of his opponents, or just weaken their magic defenses. Don't forget that Frog also has a powerful healing ability and his......long....tongue. :P
Oh yes, he also has the power to cast water-spells and summon a colossal Energy-Frog.
mr44mag
March 14th, 2006, 02:18 PM
Inuyasha....
Why? Well, his kaze-no-kizu will pawn any normal human; however, his Bakuryuuha is also useful against enemies like Hiei. Of course, I just suggested Inuyasha because his techniques come from within his sword; sadly, he is to dependant of Tessaiga.
Don't forget about Kongousouha (Diamonds are the hardest thing on the world..) and the Dragon-Scaled Tessaiga. (With the ability to absorb the youki from his opponents and destroy their bodies with the Youketsu-slicing method.)
Pfft, Mapputatsu Tsubaki can cut through any material and I mean ANY material with her Zanseramikku sword... except coconut jelly. :lol:
So many interesting choices at their and you had to pick InuYasha.
Lord Timaeus
March 14th, 2006, 02:20 PM
*BLEACH SPOILERS AHEAD*
I hate to say it, but Aizen from Bleach seems to be a good contender for this ultimate showdown of ultimate destiny. He has the cheapest zanpakuto ability in the entire series, one which can make his opponents see whatever he wants them to see, hear whatever he wants them to hear, etc. Guts may have slayed a hundred men, Suzuka may have stopped traffic with only a wooden sword, and Chuck Norris' roundhouse kicks may have enough power to destroy galaxies, but Aizen can simply make all three of them believe he's not even there as he slashes them all to pieces.
Of course, Aizen still isn't a match for Mr. Rogers. (www.ultimateshowdown.org)
max payne
March 14th, 2006, 02:22 PM
winnerhttp://www.uptoolate.com/rick/images/memetic/bloo.jpg
so that guy could make someone see that instead of him?
KOOL!
RyoTD
March 14th, 2006, 02:24 PM
So here's a good match-up: Twilight Suzuka, wearing a watermelon-styled bathing suit, versus Tatewaki Kuno dressed as a Kei Pirate. Anime Celebrity Deathmatch is ON!
I lol'd.
I don't like "who would win?" threads, though. They can be horribly one sided.
Daishikaze
March 14th, 2006, 02:33 PM
I'm with Bernard on this one, Ogami Itto for sure.
soulreaper
March 14th, 2006, 02:47 PM
Obviously, Ichigo (Bleach). He has the amazing ability to be a stereotypical Shounen Jump hero who keeps getting stronger and stronger, until he's the OM!GSUPER111ULTIMATES!!11!. Of course, in staying true to his stereotype, he would lose first. Then come back 100x as strong. I'm not dissing Bleach though, I really like the manga.
Undrave
March 14th, 2006, 02:56 PM
Demon Eyes Kyo, no contest there!
The Suzaku is immortal and Biyakko will shred to pieces any opponent who cross its glare.
Oh if you take non sword wielding Samurai you could just send in Akari :teehee:
Nobody has a chance against a pissed off Akari.
Reidar.
March 14th, 2006, 03:02 PM
Trunks from Dragonball is the most powerful sword-fighter I can think of.
Shinigami Ryuk
March 14th, 2006, 03:04 PM
Ehh... Thier has to be someone more powerful then Trunks.
max payne
March 14th, 2006, 03:06 PM
like a rubber ball
gameoffreak8
March 14th, 2006, 03:07 PM
Hiko Seijuro from Ruriuni Kenshin
or
Twilight Suzuka from Outlaw Star.
Techrobo
March 14th, 2006, 03:15 PM
So you think Norris would win?
I go for Bruce.
Bruce is up there, but no one beats the Chuck. Bullets dodge Chuck Norris, so swords, knives, and such would likely follow suit. And even ninja type characters would have trouble with him. Chuck Norris doesn't sleep, he waits.
Reidar.
March 14th, 2006, 03:22 PM
Ehh... Thier has to be someone more powerful then Trunks.
Perhaps, but he's the most powerful sword-fighter I can think of, considering he blocked a sword slash with his bare hand and lifted a planet-destroying explosion up with one finger.
ronin_manji
March 14th, 2006, 03:24 PM
[QUOTE=CrossboneGundam]So you start a thread whose subject has literally been done hundreds of times on this forum alone, not to mention every other anime or video game related forum on the internet?
Ummmmmm......???........YEA!...If u didnt like the topic then why did u post on it...?
(Mybe because because there was nothing better to complain about???)
I'm confused...
Undrave
March 14th, 2006, 04:36 PM
but Chuck isn't a swordsman!
Techrobo
March 14th, 2006, 04:45 PM
but Chuck isn't a swordsman!
Neither is someone who throws balls of energy in my opinion, or uses kai or any other type of energy in their attacks. And Chuck Norris could use a sword, he'd just have to attach it to the toe of his right boot. As an aside, should you really be taking any comment involving Chuck Norris seriously?
Reidar.
March 14th, 2006, 04:53 PM
How do energy attacks disprove the definition? By that logic, nobody listed is a swordsman because they also have the ability to punch and kick.
ronin_manji
March 14th, 2006, 05:01 PM
I forgot about Gama from Zombie Powder.
He has a huge sword with a chain saw blade and he is such a badass!
Lankard
March 14th, 2006, 05:05 PM
the kendo girl from Love Hina(forgot her name momentarily). When she went up against the main character to prove to herself that she didnt love him, she was able to cut through giant boulders with a wooden stick.
gameoffreak8
March 14th, 2006, 05:09 PM
the kendo girl from Love Hina(forgot her name momentarily). When she went up against the main character to prove to herself that she didnt love him, she was able to cut through giant boulders with a wooden stick.
Her name is Motoko Aoyama. I completely forget about her.
MagicianCamille
March 14th, 2006, 05:28 PM
Super Electromagnetic Robot Voltes V!
Stelok
March 14th, 2006, 05:57 PM
Zoro from One Piece or Kyo from Samurai Deeper Kyo would win. Amidamaru (Shaman King) also has a good chance of winning.
xxxYaoiLovrxxx
March 14th, 2006, 06:02 PM
I say Mugen(Samurai Champloo) or Kenshin Himura(Samurai X).
D the Hunter
March 14th, 2006, 06:43 PM
+3 or 4 on Guts from Berserk
Sure he's missing an eye and a hand, but he has no magic and he still lays the beat down on those demon bastages. :)
*end berserk fanboy rant*
Ramen-Boy
March 14th, 2006, 07:14 PM
Has anyone already mentioned Jubei from Ninja Scroll?...
ronin_manji
March 14th, 2006, 07:25 PM
Jubei from Ninja Scroll is pretty good....but as for like samurai kinda guys... Manji and Magatsu from Blade of the Immortal could beat him.
ronin_manji
March 14th, 2006, 07:28 PM
OMG...we can't forget about Ryu Hyabusa from the DOA series and Ninja Gaiden. He would completly destroy most of the people listed so far.
max payne
March 14th, 2006, 10:07 PM
neo, he is amazing with a sword/staff, in the films but the stuff he does in path of neo is pretty amazing
Techrobo
March 15th, 2006, 07:49 AM
How do energy attacks disprove the definition? By that logic, nobody listed is a swordsman because they also have the ability to punch and kick.
Did you even bother reading the disclaimer in my last quote? As a cynic, nothing I say should be taken seriously without due consideration. As for my exclusion of people who use energy attacks, that is simply a matter of personal ethics. Having some experience in swordfighting, I would fully accept if someone kicked or punched me, or used an off-handed weapon in a fight, but ranged weapons are out of the question. I wouldn't throw a knife at an opponent in a 'fair fight' nor would I pull a gun on him. Energy attacks, which amount to ranged attacks in my book, would also be off limits. I don't mind the use of kai techniques by actual fighters in the real world - largely because they don't do much in my opinion, but the ones in fiction amount to magic as far as I'm concerned, and thats off limits in duels as well. If we started to accept such things, the criteria of it being a swordfight would be lost, and theoretically any weapon could be used. At least thats my reasoning, but my sword fighting experience is with sabres and longswords, and I'll bet many people will disagree with at least some of what I said, and I welcome it.
Undrave
March 15th, 2006, 08:02 AM
If we cut out any 'super kendo' (SDK) or energy attacking martial artist I think Kenshin probably has the best chance of winning then.
And why would Zoro win if he's not the best Swordsman of HIS world yet?!?
MonkeyBoy0314
March 15th, 2006, 10:46 AM
Either Kenshin or Father Anderson
Ooh, wait, do Highlanders count?
Old Ape Face
March 15th, 2006, 11:16 AM
+3 or 4 on Guts from Berserk
Sure he's missing an eye and a hand, but he has no magic and he still lays the beat down on those demon bastages. :)
*end berserk fanboy rant*
i have a disliking for Guts, i have just finished the first book of Beserk in the manga, and i've already seen plenty of weaknesses he has, Shure he has a massive sword and he reminds me of FU XI from Dynasty Warriors 3, and he has a cross bow and a flare cannon in his arm, but all those weapons, for maybe the exception of the cros bow Are too slow. every character i've seen with such a massive blade has a disadvantage in speed, I have noticed that all the enemies he fights are too big to move around quickly or they're too suprised at the site of a large blade, or too stupid to figuar out that's it's slow.
if My memory servs Correct i remember Sanosuke from Rurouni Kenshin also had a massive hunk of Iron he called a sword, but it makes sence to know that if your fight against speed heaveir isn't always the best choice of weapon, no matter how strong he is.
in Comparison with my Favorite group of Samurai, :Kyo, Kyoshiro, and Yukimura, they could all easily avoid Guts, though it all depends on who much armour Gut's has.
Woooh
March 15th, 2006, 01:03 PM
Just to change it up a bit...Genie from rune soldier or that swords girl that i cant remember the name of from Outlaw Star
Reidar.
March 15th, 2006, 01:19 PM
Did you even bother reading the disclaimer in my last quote? As a cynic, nothing I say should be taken seriously without due consideration. As for my exclusion of people who use energy attacks, that is simply a matter of personal ethics. Having some experience in swordfighting, I would fully accept if someone kicked or punched me, or used an off-handed weapon in a fight, but ranged weapons are out of the question. I wouldn't throw a knife at an opponent in a 'fair fight' nor would I pull a gun on him. Energy attacks, which amount to ranged attacks in my book, would also be off limits. I don't mind the use of kai techniques by actual fighters in the real world - largely because they don't do much in my opinion, but the ones in fiction amount to magic as far as I'm concerned, and thats off limits in duels as well. If we started to accept such things, the criteria of it being a swordfight would be lost, and theoretically any weapon could be used. At least thats my reasoning, but my sword fighting experience is with sabres and longswords, and I'll bet many people will disagree with at least some of what I said, and I welcome it.
Bad example. Energy attacks come from Trunks' body and are as natural to him as punching and kicking. Knives and guns are additional, seperate weapons. Try again.
Hitokiri_Himura
March 15th, 2006, 01:37 PM
I've got to say either Hiko Seijuro or maybe Kenshin... but I stick more to Hiko because I like the Hiten Mitsurugi school. He even defeated that giant.
Techrobo
March 15th, 2006, 01:46 PM
Bad example. Energy attacks come from Trunks' body and are as natural to him as punching and kicking. Knives and guns are additional, seperate weapons. Try again.
I was not calling the nature of the attacks into question. By that logic, swords themselves would have to be excluded as well. CC off handed weapons are acceptable in many circles, including my own, having used a parrying dagger myself in the past, but the concept of a ranged attack is out of the question, regardless of its nature. I was calling into question the breach of honour entailed by ranged attacks of any nature in a 'fair' sword fight. I have not been in a real duel, but I know that in the European school of such things, if one was to use a ranged attack in a swordfight, both seconds would likely step in to stop one, and possibly deal out justice for the breach of code. If both opponents had agreed to used ranged attacks - energy, conventional, magic, or otherwise - there would be no problem with such a fight, though personally I find pistol duels quite distasteful, and the same would go for the energy stuff if people actually had and utilized such abilities. The fact of the matter is that taking advantage of such techniques when another does not have them at his/her disposal does not make one a better swordfighter, it merely means that one is taking advantage of another's quite unfair handicap. I guess I am biased because I look at swordfighting in a real-world manner, and sadly we are discussion fiction. You do not seem to grasp the concept of a fair fight, but that is understandable considering there truly is no such thing anymore. I saw this in terms of a real duel, but perhaps I am wrong in looking at it so. I guess I will take my own advice and take the topic, and those talking about it, far less seriously in the future. It saves me from having to make grandios explanations and going off topic.
Solid_Snake
March 15th, 2006, 01:55 PM
Gray Fox...
Prof.Nosebleed
March 15th, 2006, 01:56 PM
I second the post of Ryu Hayabusa, he took on a whole empire and their supernatural counterparts by himself(actually some help from Ayane, Rachel, and Muramasa but very little). They don't call him the superninja for nothing. :ph34r:
Reidar.
March 15th, 2006, 02:17 PM
I was not calling the nature of the attacks into question. By that logic, swords themselves would have to be excluded as well.
Yes you were. What were you calling into question, then? Their pH level? You disputed their projectory properties. That's the nature of the attack.
CC off handed weapons are acceptable in many circles, including my own, having used a parrying dagger myself in the past, but the concept of a ranged attack is out of the question, regardless of its nature.
Being a projectile would be the nature of the attack property.
I was calling into question the breach of honour entailed by ranged attacks of any nature in a 'fair' sword fight. I have not been in a real duel, but I know that in the European school of such things, if one was to use a ranged attack in a swordfight, both seconds would likely step in to stop one, and possibly deal out justice for the breach of code. If both opponents had agreed to used ranged attacks - energy, conventional, magic, or otherwise - there would be no problem with such a fight, though personally I find pistol duels quite distasteful, and the same would go for the energy stuff if people actually had and utilized such abilities. The fact of the matter is that taking advantage of such techniques when another does not have them at his/her disposal does not make one a better swordfighter, it merely means that one is taking advantage of another's quite unfair handicap. I guess I am biased because I look at swordfighting in a real-world manner, and sadly we are discussion fiction. You do not seem to grasp the concept of a fair fight, but that is understandable considering there truly is no such thing anymore. I saw this in terms of a real duel, but perhaps I am wrong in looking at it so. I guess I will take my own advice and take the topic, and those talking about it, far less seriously in the future. It saves me from having to make grandios explanations and going off topic.
Anime characters from different universes will have different abilites. Fairness and honor isn't the issue; winning is. Whatever Trunks can do, he's still a sword-fighter, and that's what the topic is asking for.
By the way, there is no "fairness" in fighting. Fighting is about inflicting harm onto another human being; fairness is your own philosophy. There is winning and there is losing. The one who walks away is the better fighter. Humans aren't born fair; other people are born with genetics that you'll never have. That's just the way life is. If you're talking about a fiction world where you create the rules, then sure, but by admitting you're looking at this in terms of real-life situations, you come off as someone who doesn't understand how real fighting works.
Techrobo
March 15th, 2006, 02:39 PM
Anime characters from different universes will have different abilites. Fairness and honor isn't the issue; winning is. Whatever Trunks can do, he's still a sword-fighter, and that's what the topic is asking for.
By the way, there is no "fairness" in fighting. Fighting is about inflicting harm onto another human being; fairness is your own philosophy. There is winning and there is losing. The one who walks away is the better fighter. Humans aren't born fair; other people are born with genetics that you'll never have. That's just the way life is. If you're talking about a fiction world where you create the rules, then sure, but by admitting you're looking at this in terms of real-life situations, you come off as someone who doesn't understand how real fighting works.
I cannot refute your position on fighting and fairness because it is true, but that doesn't mean I have to lower my own views of such things to such a level. I will admit that I am more of a philosopher than a fighter, but accusing someone of not understanding something when you don't know their back story is a juvenile and backwards way of arguing a point. Regardless of such things I fully accept your view, and realize that many other people would share. I am just glad that not everyone in the world has sunk to such a level. Chivalry may be dead, but it does not have to be so for all men. I took the question as an honorable duel whereas you seemed to see it as a man to man war of some kind. I will continue to believe that such attacks would no longer make it a swordfight, but you go on thinking whatever you wish.
Reidar.
March 15th, 2006, 02:41 PM
I cannot refute your position on fighting fairness because it is true, but that doesn't mean I have to lower my own views of such things to such a level. I will admit that I am more of a philosopher than a fighter, but accusing someone of not understanding something when you don't know their back story is a juvenile and backwards way of arguing a point. Regardless of such things I fully accept your view, and realize that many other people would share. I am just glad that not everyone in the world has sunk to such a level. Chivalry may be dead, but it does not have to be so for all men.
Chivalry is a completely seperate subject from martial arts and fighting. Your backstory doesn't change that.
Techrobo
March 15th, 2006, 02:46 PM
Chivalry is a completely seperate subject from martial arts and fighting. Your backstory doesn't change that.
Seeing as all you are attempting to do is immediately contradict everything I say, without backing it up, and perverting the very spirt of the discussion, I wash my hands of this argument. I should have realized nothing I said would have an effect. Continual meanspirited misinterpretation without thought may not be entirely your fault, but I guess ignorance is bliss in this case.
Reidar.
March 15th, 2006, 02:49 PM
Seeing as all you are attempting to do is immediately contradict everything I say, without backing it up, and perverting the very spirt of the discussion, I wash my hands of this argument. I should have realized nothing I said would have an effect. Continual meanspirited misinterpretation without thought may not be entirely your fault, but I guess ignorance is bliss in this case.
Nothing in this discussion is "meanspirited". I'm explaining the reality of fighting, and you yourself are viewing it as a personal attack. If you'd like me to back it up, I'd be more than happy to explain the origins of martial arts with cited sources. Using the age-old "you're too ignorant to discuss this with" is a cop-out. I would think that if you believe yourself to be that correct, you'd be willing to go the length of expanding upon and explaining your point.
CeLL_288
March 15th, 2006, 05:46 PM
Oh boy, someone is trying to argue with Reidar about martial arts again.
Haruhi
March 15th, 2006, 06:23 PM
Osaka Kasuga wins in a swordfight. That's it. End of discussion. Your moderator has SPOKEN! *pounds her gavel*
Jon
March 15th, 2006, 06:24 PM
Just to change it up a bit...Genie from rune soldier or that swords girl that i cant remember the name of from Outlaw Star
Suzuka? :)
Lord Timaeus
March 15th, 2006, 06:30 PM
Osaka Kasuga wins in a swordfight. That's it. End of discussion. Your moderator has SPOKEN! *pounds her gavel*
Indeed. If she can split chopsticks with her bare hands, imaging what she could do with a sword. ;)
Old Ape Face
March 15th, 2006, 06:32 PM
Bontenmaru now that you brought of the strength facter, He almost beat Kyo with a wooden stick. if he used a blade he'd be unstobable, and not only if he strong but he's godly fast too, and he's huge.
germanturkey
March 15th, 2006, 06:53 PM
Hiko from RK
Seijuro_Hiko_IX
March 15th, 2006, 07:14 PM
Hiko Seijuro.
He is the ulitmate sword master.
kenshinbebop
March 15th, 2006, 07:19 PM
Kenshin or assorted RK characters. Also, tis not from anime/manga/or VG, but Zatoichi from Japanese cinema.
Undrave
March 16th, 2006, 08:56 AM
Bontenmaru now that you brought of the strength facter, He almost beat Kyo with a wooden stick. if he used a blade he'd be unstobable, and not only if he strong but he's godly fast too, and he's huge.
Bontenmaru doesn't need a sword to win! He just pounds away with his bare hands and shred his enemy to pieces like a savage holy tiger of steel! ROAR!
D the Hunter
March 16th, 2006, 07:02 PM
i have a disliking for Guts, ...(snip)
You lost me after that comment.
Seriously though, I see your line of thought and I can't disagree. :crybaby:
But Gut's has more muscle and appeal than these other scrawny samurai's :P
Old Ape Face
March 16th, 2006, 07:10 PM
Bontenmaru doesn't need a sword to win! He just pounds away with his bare hands and shred his enemy to pieces like a savage holy tiger of steel! ROAR!
hens by my meaning that he would blow Kyo in the face if he used a real steal sword.
CyberNinja5
March 16th, 2006, 07:29 PM
Im going to have to say Jin from Samurai Champloo or Kenshin.
ronin_manji
March 16th, 2006, 08:01 PM
I'm sorry but after thinking about this for a few days and recently reading and watching berserk....AGAIN...I have come to a conclusion that guts would own just about any swords man...!
Dark_Knight
April 13th, 2007, 10:25 PM
Roronoa Zoro from One Piece. Superhuman strength, fast enough to react to the CP9's Soru and I doubt that there's many sword techniques that could stand up to some of his moves, such as Shishi Sonsen and Asura Ichibukin.
Kali-chan
April 14th, 2007, 08:12 AM
I say Zolo (One Piece)
Piers (Golden Sun)
JaidaDv
April 14th, 2007, 09:16 AM
Hawkeye Mihawk (One Piece)
ToxicAlice92
April 14th, 2007, 09:21 AM
Ichigo (Bleach)
Dr. Ezra
April 14th, 2007, 09:23 AM
Himura Kenshin, of course.
master terrence
April 14th, 2007, 10:15 AM
ninja gaiden
Dr. Ezra
April 14th, 2007, 10:26 AM
Soji Okita.
Hajime Saitou
April 14th, 2007, 10:53 AM
Everyone saying Kenshin needs to remember that Saitou was on equal footing with him. Both in the past and when they meet for the first time after the revolution. They are evenly matched, so if you are going to mention one, you should mention the other.
akutenshi00
April 14th, 2007, 12:58 PM
... Old topic. Baiken from Guilty Gear.
Bernard_Monsha
April 14th, 2007, 01:10 PM
Ogami Itto.
Holy Knight
April 14th, 2007, 01:12 PM
Ogami Itto.
I concur. There is no better.
Phantom
April 14th, 2007, 02:00 PM
Gutts from berserk, really a lot of the other fighters rely on there own power and not there own skill with there blade. Gutts has nothing more then his determination to never give up and to follow his path. A real sword fighter relys on his sword. A lot of the Samurai characters are like this also of course but not one of them has the raw energy of Gutts.
Dark_Knight
April 27th, 2007, 10:10 PM
*slaps head* Stupid of me to forget about Mihawk... yeah, Mihawk pwns all!
Yukito Kunisaki
April 27th, 2007, 10:13 PM
Mai Kawasumi gets my vote. A stoic girl with a mad way of handling a blade, love her.
CrossboneGundam
April 27th, 2007, 11:39 PM
Everyone saying Kenshin needs to remember that Saitou was on equal footing with him. Both in the past and when they meet for the first time after the revolution. They are evenly matched, so if you are going to mention one, you should mention the other.
I would say Saitou is better.
Of course, from where I stand, it seems like Shishio was better than Kenshin, too. He probably wouldn't have lost to Kenshin if he hadn't semi-spontaneously combusted.
But if he hadn't had the presence of mind to put on a steel headband, the whole thing would have been over the moment Saitou busted through the door and stabbed him in the forehead. I still wish it would have ended like that. :lol:
Hajime Saitou
April 28th, 2007, 02:21 PM
I would say Saitou is better.
Of course, from where I stand, it seems like Shishio was better than Kenshin, too. He probably wouldn't have lost to Kenshin if he hadn't semi-spontaneously combusted.
But if he hadn't had the presence of mind to put on a steel headband, the whole thing would have been over the moment Saitou busted through the door and stabbed him in the forehead. I still wish it would have ended like that. :lol:
I was trying to be unbiased but it's certainly possible to say that Saitou is better after a certain point in the story.
I would say Saitou is better only after Kenshin's last time reverting back to how he was during the revolution. When Kenshin does do that, they are seemingly equal. But, after they fight, I guess that would make Saitou the stronger of the two.
But really, Shishio>all. He was just made to be an unstoppable killing machine with one weakness so that the arc could eventually end while leaving room for more. Couldn't have Shishio kill everyone after all :P.
That part where Saitou comes flying through the wall was really awesome, and if it had ended because of that, I certainly would not have complained.
Dr. Ezra
April 28th, 2007, 02:48 PM
Manji (Blade of the Immortal) I realize this is not an anime series.
Caster13
April 28th, 2007, 03:00 PM
the guy smart enough to bring a gun as backup:lol:
Jovan Musk
April 28th, 2007, 06:26 PM
I think it would be Ninja Master Gara from Bastard...the only reason he would win is because he has spells and everything...but if you wanted the fight to be fair then I would choose Manji from Blade of the Immortal.
the words out of my mouth
Dr. Ezra
April 28th, 2007, 06:41 PM
the guy smart enough to bring a gun as backup:lol:
Bah! Guns are for weaklings.
Bisu
April 28th, 2007, 07:42 PM
Of course, from where I stand, it seems like Shishio was better than Kenshin, too. He probably wouldn't have lost to Kenshin if he hadn't semi-spontaneously combusted. Minor Kenshin spoilers following, better safe than sorry:
Probably. But then there's the 'Kenshin was physically exhausted due to his fight with Aoshi and Soujirou' argument; many believe Shishio wouldn't be able to defeat both Aoshi and Soujirou and still give Kenshin much of a challenge. Even if he weren't plagued with his overheating issue.
After all these years...I still haven't been able to decide between the two.
As for Saitou, I partially agree...I think he's superior to Kenshin, but only early as well as late in the story. During the Shishio arc, I would have to say Kenshin is the more talented swordsman. But after the Enishi arc, he felt his physical strength depleting (which is why he bequeathed his Sakabatou to Yahiko), so he decided to challenge Saitou to one last fight to settle their dispute.
I have to say...I was very disappointed that Saitou decided to back out...but had he not done so, I'm convinced he would've been the victor.
Caster13
April 28th, 2007, 07:48 PM
theres a difference between being crazy strong and possibly dead and not the strongest, smart and alive. think of it as having a crazy machete weilding pschopath after you. if you have a gun, UNLOAD THE CLIP.
Mystic Gohan
April 28th, 2007, 08:00 PM
Trunks.....he may not be as good as everyone when it comes to swordsmanship but he is just plain stronger than almost everyone with a sword.
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