Did John just give up Mai Otome???

[mugener]

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I can't belive it, Mai Otome is such an high quilty anime, but John hasn't tough it since long time ago! :crybaby:

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[jedisolo]

Maybe John didn't like it.

[Hisoka]

:lol: :lol: :lol: High quality? If Mai-Otome is high quality then I don't want to know what you consider low quality.

[John]

Unfortunately there are just more anime titles available that I'm interested in than I have the time to watch.

I'm very far behind on My Otome. I'm also very far behind on Gakuen Alice, Zipang, and Rozen Maiden Traumend.

I still haven't finished watching the X TV series, Twelve Kingdoms, Outlaw Star, Big O II, Fancy Lala, and Card Captor Sakura, even though I've bought all of the domestic DVDs.

I want to watch more of My Otome, but I don't know when I'll get around to it.

[Soluzar]

I can't belive it, Mai Otome is such an high quilty anime, but John hasn't tough it since long time ago!

It's not even close to the quality of Mai-HiME, in my opinion. If John did drop it for now, only to pick it up when time allows, he did no different than what I did for a while, and probably for much the same reasons. I can certainly understand why. It's just not worth that level of devotion, to download weekly episodes, in my eyes. I 'spect a lot of fans have dropped it for now. I'll probably watch the lot when it's complete. It's still very nicely animated, and has good music, but... it's kinda -_-

[Baka Deshi]

I'm also very far behind on...Rozen Maiden Traumend.

:O :O

Bad man! :lol:

[throughhim413]

:lol: :lol: :lol: High quality? If Mai-Otome is high quality then I don't want to know what you consider low quality.Hisoka, you didn't have enough :lol:s in your post. I am one of many who is very glad to have dropped Mai-Otome. It was clear after a few episodes that it was never going to get better, much less be considered 'great' or 'high quality' as the OP puts it.

Considering the things I heard from people who watched it further then I did, I'm a bit surprised that there are still people who have good opinions of it... But to each his own I suppose.

[Joeshie]

I really can't say I blame John. Mai Otome came as a disappointment to me. I stopped watching around episode 14 and the only reason I would consider finishing the series is just to see Mai's cameo.

[Soluzar]

I must say that I find everything about Mai-Otome appealing with the exception of the plot. If the same team were to produce another anime with the same production values, but with somewhat better of a premise and better paced plot development, I'd be all over that.

[throughhim413]

I must say that I find everything about Mai-Otome appealing with the exception of the plot. If the same team were to produce another anime with the same production values, but with somewhat better of a premise and better paced plot development, I'd be all over that.My problem might have been that I had heightened expectations for Otome after HiME. But like you said, it was the plot, or utter lack thereof, that killed this series. I enjoy the music, the animation isn't really any different then HiME, it had all the makings to be good. But the episodes I saw didn't have good stories and and of themselves, nevermind the existence of some greater plot or storyline. Right down to the basics of its writing, Mai-Otome fell hard. I guess I should have expected something like this, but oh well, it's in the past now.

[Sushikins]

Like others, I had high expectations of Otome, but I felt they failed them. I've dropped it for now (Around 13 or 14). I'll probably watch it all someday when it's all out, though just mostly to see Mai. One of my friends at lunch watches it so I generally know whats going on in general, and while it does seem to be picking up a bit, it's not enough to get me interested in it again for now.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

He probably got father than I did, I made it to 17 minutes on episode 1, and have no intention to watch it again.

[Jon]

Zipang Start watching! I can't beleive you, of all people, is not up to date on Zipang! ^_^

I still haven't finished watching the X TV series, Twelve Kingdoms, Outlaw Star, Big O II, Fancy Lala, and Card Captor Sakura, even though I've bought all of the domestic DVDs.

No Outlaw Star? :'(

[HitokiriShadow]

My problem might have been that I had heightened expectations for Otome after HiME. But like you said, it was the plot, or utter lack thereof, that killed this series. I enjoy the music, the animation isn't really any different then HiME, it had all the makings to be good. But the episodes I saw didn't have good stories and and of themselves, nevermind the existence of some greater plot or storyline. Right down to the basics of its writing, Mai-Otome fell hard. I guess I should have expected something like this, but oh well, it's in the past now.

Ever since the first announcements of Mai Zhime/Otome/Maid, I had low expectations. The whole maid thing just sounded like a recipe for mediocrocity. As such, the anime has been enjoyable for me, but nothing great.

[Maxximo]

He probably got father than I did, I made it to 17 minutes on episode 1, and have no intention to watch it again.
I lasted only 15 min. of episode 1 never look back either...

[mugener]

High quality? If Mai-Otome is high quality then I don't want to know what you consider low quality.

There are many low quality anime in your list. :angry:

For example: Ragnarok The Animation. :angry:

You can easily figure out that Mai Otome's animation quilty is far better then
most of series in your list, can't you? :angry:

And to people who don't like Mai Otome:

Even if you don't like this show, you still have to admit that it's stuff spend
more money on the animation quilty so it look far better then most of series recently.

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[Soluzar]

There are many low quality anime in your list. :angry:

For example: Ragnarok The Animation. :angry:

You can easily figure out that Mai Otome's animation quilty is far better then
most of series in your list, can't you? :angry:

And to people who don't like Mai Otome:

Even if you don't like this show, you still have to admit that it's stuff spend
more money on the animation quilty so it look far better then most of series recently.

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Yeah, the animation is top quality. It's the story that's bargain-basement. I'm pretty sure that for long-term anime fans like Hisoka, the animation isn't what determines the overall quality of a series. Without a good story, most anime would just not be worth watching - even if the animation was the greatest ever.

[throughhim413]

^2 I'm going to go ahead and tell you right now that if you're going by the ratings that Hisoka has given shows in his ANN list, then you have no idea what you're talking about. Also, he didn't even rate Ragnarok, so are you saying that people aren't allowed to have seen shows that you don't like?

Back to Mai-Otome... Animation quality is great? Thanks to a friend of mine who loves to show 4chan links, I have seen countless examples of very poor animation quality in Mai-Otome. The episodes I saw tried to distract you from the glaring flaws using some flashy CG work and cheap digicel. Oh the whole, what I've seen of the animation quality impressed me less then Mai-HiME's animation, though maybe I missed something. It was ok, but considering the budget, I have to say I was expecting more.

On the whole, I have to say, if your main defense of Mai-Otome is that it has good animation, that should tell you something right there. I guess you haven't heard the old saying "don't judge a book by its cover".

[mugener]

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Do you know why I motion animation quality, but not plot, music or anime style???

Because plot, music and anime style are all about personal taste.

You don't like the plot, but I do.
You don't like the music, but I do.
You don't like the anime style, but I do.

They are all for personal taste.

But animation quality is different.

You can easily find out if an anime has high animation quality or not, and it's not about personal taste.

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[Soluzar]

Do you know why I motion animation quilty, but not plot, music or anime style???Yeah, because you're from the CGI generation, and think that animation is everything. That was what I thought, right or wrong.

Because plot, music and anime style are all about personal taste.

You don't the plot, but I do.
You don't the music, but I do.
You don't the anime style, but I do.
Actually the music is great. The style is good too. It's just that the plot appears to not be going anywhere, and I keep waiting for something to happen that's going to matter beyond the end of the episode, but to no avail.


But animation quilty is different.

You can easily find out if an anime has animation quilty or not, and it's not about personal taste.Dead wrong.

[throughhim413]

Yeah, because you're from the CGI generation, and think that animation is everything. That was what I thought, right or wrong.That was my impression as well.
But animation quilty is different.

You can easily find out if an anime has high animation quality or not, and it's not about personal taste.It's very easy to disagree on animation quality. Clearly you've never been involved in a discussion on cel animation versus digicel and CGI. So while it is only my opinion, you'll have to forgive me when I completely disagree with you.

Though for what it's worth, I did enjoy the music.

[mugener]

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What the...!?

No matter it's about 2D or 3D, we can still find out which is low-budget and which is high-budget!

For example, 3D anime: Appleseed(low) and FF7AC(high).

And for 2D anime... well, you can figure it out by yourself, can't you???

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[throughhim413]

No matter it's about 2D or 3D, we can still find out which is low-budget and which is high-budget!Did I miss the day when the quality of a series or animation became based upon the size of the budget? There have been well animated shows with low budgets, they have used more stylistic methods to hide these features and thus have added to the feel of the show. On the other hand, it's not uncommon to have high budget shows think that they can hide a non-existent storyline and poorly written characters behind their 'high-budget' animation.

[mugener]

Did I miss the day when the quality of a series or animation became based upon the size of the budget? There have been well animated shows with low budgets, they have used more stylistic methods to hide these features and thus have added to the feel of the show. On the other hand, it's not uncommon to have high budget shows think that they can hide a non-existent storyline and poorly written characters behind their 'high-budget' animation.

Like what I said, personal taste.

When you like an anime with stylistic methods you said, you will accept it even it's an low-budget show which can't draw more frames, shading, etc.

And that's because your personal taste.

So, for my personal taste, I like My Otome.

I am very glad and proud that it's an high-budget show which can draw more frames, shading, etc.

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[Raistlin-sama]

I'm sorry, but I just don't get you (mugener). If you like the show that's fine, but to bring forth the fact that it's a high-budget show as it's main strength seems pretty silly.

If that is truly your main reason for liking the show, I must say that I have a lot of trouble comprehending your tastes.

[Hisoka]

I just remembered something. Mugener is the same guy who wanted to watch Hunter x Hunter because he thought Shizuku was hot. :lol: Even to go as far as to ask for a list of all the scenes she's in because... THAT'S ALL HE WANTED TO SEE FROM IT!

So there we have it folks.

[throughhim413]

And so, another thread is brought to meaningful conclusion. :lol:

[Soluzar]

I just remembered something. Mugener is the same guy who wanted to watch Hunter x Hunter because he thought Shizuku was hot. :lol: Even to go as far as to ask for a list of all the scenes she's in because... THAT'S ALL HE WANTED TO SEE FROM IT!

So there we have it folks.

XD! I've not seen Hunter x Hunter myself, but that's a pretty crappy reason to watch any anime. :lol:

[Maceart]

Hey Mai-Otome isn't bad! Just needs some plot progression in the last 4 episodes and it'll at least end well, unlike the previous Sunrise stinker, Gundam SEED: Destiny.

[throughhim413]

Hey Mai-Otome isn't bad! Just needs some plot progression in the last 4 episodes and it'll at least end well, unlike the previous Sunrise stinker, Gundam SEED: Destiny.That's what we were saying about Gundam SEED Destiny when it had a few episodes left. "If they would just put the pieces together, this could still have a good ending... Maybe..." And we got let down hard. I'm not saying it couldn't happen, I just wish that more series would do their plot progression throughout the course of the show instead of getting stuck at the end with too much to do and not enough time... I would rather you be right though. I'm tired of shows ending badly, so I hope for the best for those who are still watching (or fansubbing :naughty: ) Mai-Otome.

[HitokiriShadow]

I think Mai HiME fans should watch all of Otome simply because there are (based on the most recent episode) direct connections with HiME. There where little hints in earlier episodes, but it pretty much slapped you in the face with it in this episode.

That's a large reason I've been watching it despite its mediocrocity. I have suspected since the beginning that it was directly related to HiME. The remaining episodes should explain it, but I suspect that the events in HiME resulted in everyones souls being reincarnated or something.

[Shin-seiki]

My-Otome isn't up to the standard set by My-HiME (in part because Mai was a more appealing main character than the Ant), but it's not bad. I've been following it quite eagerly (I've DLed the RAW, and both Doremi and SS's fansubs for every episode), and I expect that with these last few episodes it will go out with a bang.

[guyverfanboy]

My-Otome isn't up to the standard set by My-HiME (in part because Mai was a more appealing main character than the Ant), but it's not bad. I've been following it quite eagerly (I've DLed the RAW, and both Doremi and SS's fansubs for every episode), and I expect that with these last few episodes it will go out with a bang.

I have My Hime fansubbed, but I haven't watched it yet. -_-; Although, I love Mai Otome and I can't wait for the next episode.

[HitokiriShadow]

Since you haven't started watching it yet, just buy the legit DVDs. The first volume comes out in a week or two.

[guyverfanboy]

Since you haven't started watching it yet, just buy the legit DVDs. The first volume comes out in a week or two.

I know. I'll try and get it when it comes out. :)

[Soluzar]

My-Otome isn't up to the standard set by My-HiME, in part because Mai was a more appealing main character than the Ant,

Quoted for truth. It's not like I dislike Anty, but right from the promo, Tokiha Mai had me sold. The anime would have had to suck badly for me to not watch it with such an appealing main character.

On the subject of Mai-Otome, I'm still planning to watch it all, I've just decided to wait until it's finished so that I can run through it in one sitting. It's not exciting enough for me to be on the edge of my seat.

[mugener]

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That's wired.

You guys can say that Mai Hime would be suck without Mai.

Then why shouldn't I watch Hunter only because of Shizuku?

What's the difference????????????????

Tsk, Tsk, personal taste.

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[Sushikins]

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That's wired.

You guys can say that Mai Hime would be suck without Mai.

Then why shouldn't I watch Hunter only because of Shizuku?

What's the difference????????????????

Tsk, Tsk, personal taste.

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That's because they're not watching Mai-HiME only because of Mai. There's a big difference there. Mai is the main character of Mai-HiME, so she's a very important character, and a very good one at that, which turned into one of my problems with Otome, as I didn't like Arika as much.

[mugener]

That's because they're not watching Mai-HiME only because of Mai. There's a big difference there. Mai is the main character of Mai-HiME, so she's a very important character, and a very good one at that, which turned into one of my problems with Otome, as I didn't like Arika as much.

Then what about their reaction on refusing to watch Mai Otome because there's no Mai?

Admit it, we sometime choose to watch an show just because
we like only a few elements(ex: only ONE char) in it.

Again, personal taste.

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[throughhim413]

Then what about their reaction on refusing to watch Mai Otome because there's no Mai?

Admit it, we sometime choose to watch an show just because
we like only a few elements(ex: only ONE char) in it.I don't know many people, at least logical people, who would watch a show for a single character. And if it makes you feel any better, I didn't stop watching Mai-Otome because there was no Mai, I stopped watching it because it was no good. I have two friends, one of whom seems to watch shows based upon their music and the seiyuu and the other who becomes most interested in shows based on the art. I can't make sense out of either of their points of view. It completely illogical to me to focus on a single element of a show and missing the big picture.

For me, I choose to watch a show based on the storyline, on the character development. But that's not all either. Art and animation are important, as are music and seiyuu, it is these elements that makes anime a different medium than manga. And only shows that effectively combine ALL elements will ever number among my favorites. You can't go around seperating the key elements of a show. A show with a bad plot and good animation is still a bad show. Go ahead and chalk that up to 'personal taste' again, it will just confirm that you are certainly a member of the new anime fandom. For me, this conversation is just yet another sign that I'm not longer a part of the fandom, and frankly, I don't want to be.

[mugener]

I don't know many people, at least logical people, who would watch a show for a single character. And if it makes you feel any better, I didn't stop watching Mai-Otome because there was no Mai, I stopped watching it because it was no good. I have two friends, one of whom seems to watch shows based upon their music and the seiyuu and the other who becomes most interested in shows based on the art. I can't make sense out of either of their points of view. It completely illogical to me to focus on a single element of a show and missing the big picture.

For me, I choose to watch a show based on the storyline, on the character development. But that's not all either. Art and animation are important, as are music and seiyuu, it is these elements that makes anime a different medium than manga. And only shows that effectively combine ALL elements will ever number among my favorites. You can't go around seperating the key elements of a show. A show with a bad plot and good animation is still a bad show. Go ahead and chalk that up to 'personal taste' again, it will just confirm that you are certainly a member of the new anime fandom. For me, this conversation is just yet another sign that I'm not longer a part of the fandom, and frankly, I don't want to be.

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Sorry, pal.

No matter what kind of anime viewer you are, there is always an fandom for you, small or large.

Anime your small fandom think is totally perfect does't means that it is to anyone else.

If this is not personal taste, then what is it???

Got it?

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[throughhim413]

...Got it?...No, I'm afraid I don't. I read it several times, but I was unable to figure out what you were trying to say.

I'll try to respond anyways using what I think you were trying to say. You seem to be talking about fandom referring to my personal tastes in anime which isn't the meaning that I was using. I was using fandom to refer to the mass of anime fans, the primary, stereotypical group that is the target audience of the majority of anime that is produced. In other words, I'm using fandom to refer to the person who fits the mold of today's anime fan. Meaning that shows like Mai-Otome are pratically custom made for your tastes.

And I was making the statement about myself that I was feeling disconnected with this fandom. I don't enjoy the majority of the shows that are being made today. I like older shows that weren't willing to sacrifice a story for some shiny CG effects. My point was simply that basically I don't like the direction that anime production, especially in the case of Sunrise, is heading these days. This now marks the 4th time in a week that I've had this conversation... -_-;

[mugener]

And I was making the statement about myself that I was feeling disconnected with this fandom. I don't enjoy the majority of the shows that are being made today. I like older shows that weren't willing to sacrifice a story for some shiny CG effects. My point was simply that basically I don't like the direction that anime production, especially in the case of Sunrise, is heading these days. This now marks the 4th time in a week that I've had this conversation... -_-;

Oh, well, then that's your own problem.

You don't like Mai Otome doesn't mean that it's "no good" to anyone else, that's just your "personal" option.

What if John finish watching Mai Otome to find out that
this show is good and he likes it?

Which one's statement is more meaningful and important for me?
yours or John's?

Sorry, pal.

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[throughhim413]

You seem to be missing my points, so I'll just make some comments and hopefully won't have the need to post on this again.

I'm not saying that you're not allowed to like Mai-Otome. There's nothing wrong with liking a show that never gets any deeper then it looks at first glance. I'm not saying you can't have whatever personal taste you may like. I'm not asking you to value my opinion over John's, yours, or whoever else you may want to listen to either. And I'm certainly not asking you to watch the kind of shows that I like. Please don't in fact.

Since you love Mai-Otome, you should be really happy, I expect that there will more and more shows like it. And since high production costs seem to be your primary method of judging the quality of a show, things like rushed plots and cookie-cutter characters shouldn't bother you at all. I can't get anything out of shows like these, I need more then a show that looks nice. So I'm going to continue searching for shows that I think are great rather then settling for average.

[Hisoka]

Solid posts throughhim, but you're speaking a language this guy can't comprehend. Sorry pal. :naughty:

We keep seeing "personal taste" over and over again. Well no crap... I'd like to use another word but I can't. :P He's been saying the same thing for about three days without an ounce of reasoning besides stuff like personal taste and high budget etc.

This thread has been sadly entertaining to me and um... I think I'm done here. It's about as one sided in logic as it gets. *nods*

[Joeshie]

One of the main reasons that I stopped watching Mai Otome was the fact that Arika was such an annoying twit. Airheaded, idealistic fools are one of my most hated character types. This is only made worse by the fact that she is the main character, which means I have to listen to her annoying voice every episode.

That, combined with the fact that almost nothing interesting happened during the first 2/3rd of the series, is why I quit watching. Once the series is finished to completion, I will probably watch the entire series just to finally see the Mai cameo.

[Soluzar]

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That's wired.

You guys can say that Mai Hime would be suck without Mai.

Then why shouldn't I watch Hunter only because of Shizuku?

What's the difference????????????????

Tsk, Tsk, personal taste.


I didn't say that Mai-HiME would suck without Mai. What I said was that Mai was a large part of the appeal of the anime. It also had an excellent plot. Now in the case of Otome, it has neither an appealing lead character or a good plot. See the difference, you do?

[Mr. sickVisionz]

Unfortunately there are just more anime titles available that I'm interested in than I have the time to watch.

I'm very far behind on My Otome. I'm also very far behind on Gakuen Alice, Zipang, and Rozen Maiden Traumend.

I still haven't finished watching the X TV series, Twelve Kingdoms, Outlaw Star, Big O II, Fancy Lala, and Card Captor Sakura, even though I've bought all of the domestic DVDs.

I want to watch more of My Otome, but I don't know when I'll get around to it.

If you want to make some $$$ from those DVDs you aren't watching, i'll take that Big 0 II off your hands. Somehow I managed to miss like the last 4 episodes when they ran it on Adult Swim.

[mugener]

a show that never gets any deeper then it looks at first glance.

things like rushed plots and cookie-cutter characters.

Now in the case of Otome, it has neither an appealing lead character or a good plot.

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You guys forgot to add the words "in my own option".

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[Joeshie]

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You guys forgot to add the words "in my own option".

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I will assume that you meant "opinion" instead of "option".

Everyone knows that it is an opinion. You shouldn't expect everyone to state "that's my opinion" every time after they express their opinion on a matter. No one is claiming that their opinion is correct, so you just need to chill out with this whole "it's just your opinion" matter.

[Haruhi]

Is the music in Mai Otome done by Yuki Kajiura? If so, I'll at least check it out.

On the subject of Mai (the character)... I hated her. Mainly for the reasons Nao-chan mentioned in Mai HiME. She's just the type of character, I hate. And besides that, I despise Mai Nakihara's voice. (except her Peppo, which was subtle enough to be tolerable)

[BubbleGumCrisis]

This turned into a Otome bashing thread fast. I never judge an anime by its sequel/prequel/manga/whatever and I'm enjoying Otome for what it is.

[HitokiriShadow]

Is the music in Mai Otome done by Yuki Kajiura? If so, I'll at least check it out.

Yes. Yuki Kajiura does the music.

[Joeshie]

This turned into a Otome bashing thread fast. I never judge an anime by its sequel/prequel/manga/whatever and I'm enjoying Otome for what it is.

Otome fails even if you don't look at the fact that it is a worthless successor to an excellent anime.

[TougeSil80]

Well if you didn't watch My-HiME I guess My-Otome would be ok. But compared to My-HiME, My-Otome just can't measure up. I stopped watching it on ep 3 or 4.

[reki]

I've been watching My Otome and find it okay. It does seem like the main action is happening in the last third. I didn't have the chance to get Mai Hime before it got licensed. I see its coming available soon, I'm not sure as to the release date. Has anyone seen the release in the U.S.? I'd like to know if whats being released is done as the original was, without the editing. I think I'd really like Mai Hime, if its better than Mai Otome.

[Sushikins]

I've been watching My Otome and find it okay. It does seem like the main action is happening in the last third. I didn't have the chance to get Mai Hime before it got licensed. I see its coming available soon, I'm not sure as to the release date. Has anyone seen the release in the U.S.? I'd like to know if whats being released is done as the original was, without the editing. I think I'd really like Mai Hime, if its better than Mai Otome.
The official release date for volume 1 is March 28th. I can't see any reason why it would be edited or changed at all. If you found Otome to be okay, I'm sure you'll like HiME.

[Maceart]

Sunrise has 3 more episodes left to redeem themselves, and episode 25-26 is supposedly a double episode special.

I don't know what they can do to save the series, but at least give us some action!

[SeannyB]

I'd rather ask why John seemingly gave up on Noein (after praising it in his journal). It's really the best thing on TV, with the excitement and wow-factor escalating with every ep.

[Joeshie]

Sunrise has 3 more episodes left to redeem themselves, and episode 25-26 is supposedly a double episode special.

I don't know what they can do to save the series, but at least give us some action!

They could have salvaged the series with having Mai using her Otome powers in an amazing battle of epic proportions. Instead, Sunrise decides to use Mai's awesome Otome powers for...cooking! I waited all this time for Mai's appearance, only to have it be pure crap.

Good job royally screwing up what could have been pure awesomeness, Sunrise.

[Soluzar]

Is the music in Mai Otome done by Yuki Kajiura? If so, I'll at least check it out.

Yes. It's not quite as good as the Mai-HiME OST, but it's worth a listen.

[HitokiriShadow]

They could have salvaged the series with having Mai using her Otome powers in an amazing battle of epic proportions. Instead, Sunrise decides to use Mai's awesome Otome powers for...cooking! I waited all this time for Mai's appearance, only to have it be pure crap.

Good job royally screwing up what could have been pure awesomeness, Sunrise.

That doesn't mean we won't see her fight at some point.

[Leader Desslock]

... Instead, Sunrise decides to use Mai's awesome Otome powers for...cooking!
Yeah, but you have to admit that Kagutsuchi's one hell of an oven. Throw a pot of thin broth on his back and you've got shabu-shabu in no time.

[Dessa]

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I understand "to each their own," but...


When I was watching HiME, I loved it. I even planned on buying the DVDs. But after watching Otome... I tell everyone "only watch HiME so that you see the characters who carry over and can see the similarities/differences." After watching Otome, I'm probably never going to watch HiME again, because it was too boring. The characters were practically cookie cutters of characters from previous shows. The show got insanely predictable. I had the ending figured out by episode 20.

Now, I'm not saying that Otome's characters don't remind me of other characters, but a lot of them have quirks that I didn't see coming. And while I can guess the ending of Otome, it's not being thrown at me so blatantly as HiME was. I also find Otome's story much more interesting than HiME's was.

And I prefer Otome's music over HiME's. HiME had some good tracks, but overall there was nothing memorable. Otome has some really good insert and BGMs, and is reminding me why I love Kajiura's music so much.

[Joeshie]

After watching Otome, I'm probably never going to watch HiME again, because it was too boring.

Because no action is more exciting than tons of action, amirite? :lol:

[Baka Deshi]

Because action is the only thing that makes anime un-boring, amirite? :lol:

[Joeshie]

Because action is the only thing that makes anime un-boring, amirite? :lol:

Urrite!

*filler*

[VSh]

It's not quite as good as the Mai-HiME OST, but it's worth a listen.
Both OST are very high quality, as usual for Yuki Kajiura, but Mai-Otome's I liked more.

Both series became big events in anime. I am looking forward to OVA. Hope it features more great music. Go, Yuki!

[VSh]

Don't know about music, but OVA is near (November 24th): some video promo (http://www.moetron.com/2006/11/02/mai-otome-zwei-ova-2-video-promos).

[Westlo]

I'm more disappointed John gave up on Scryed than any other show he stopped following, seeing him give praise to inferior fighting animes makes me groan at times.

To the guy who wanted to see the Mai cameo..... it's like the complete opposite of Kira Yamato in Destiny. While one takes over the show the other does **** all despite being so "legendary". They really needed to find the middle ground both times and missed the mark by a shitload.

The only thing high quality about Mai-Otome is the music, the animation is good but not high qaulity like Studio Bones animes. Since they left to form Bones, Sunrise animes have been really lacking in terms of animation.

Compare Escaflowne and Bebop to Scryed, SEED and Mai-Hime..... compare the 3 above mentioned Sunrise series to RahXephon, FMA and Eureka Seven....

No wonder Sunrise outsourced the Esca/bebop movies to Studio Bones.....

Hey Mai-Otome isn't bad! Just needs some plot progression in the last 4 episodes and it'll at least end well, unlike the previous Sunrise stinker, Gundam SEED: Destiny.

Actually Otome and Destiny were complete stinkers as follow ups to HiMe and SEED.

[ArcaJ]

I rather enjoyed Mai-Otome. While it was a blatant attempt by Sunrise to cash in on the HiME success, they managed to do it pretty well.

Had our favorite characters in radically different situations (Midori anyone?) lots of comedy and action. While there were a couple of characters who needed to disappear (DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE SERGEY!!!!!!!!)

We were introduced to some new characters I really enjoyed. (STABBIFIES Sergey voodoo doll) Of course the sheer amount of Yuri didn't hurt either. ;)

Not quite a classic, but it is on my "Buy" list if it gets licensed.

::HUGS::
(Burns Sergey in effigy)
Arca Jeth

[Crawlspace]

Not quite a classic, but it is on my "Buy" list if it gets licensed.

Bandai has it. They announced it at AX, with Sunrise's permission, even though they were still working out some details on the contract. I'm guessing the OVA and/or extras were the "details."

[HitokiriShadow]

Actually Otome and Destiny were complete stinkers as follow ups to HiMe and SEED.

Otome was drastically inferior to HiME, but it was nowhere near the crapfest that Destiny was.

I didn't expect much of Otome to begin with and it really only disappointed me because it actually looked like it had some potential around the midway point. And it doesn't crap on the original series like SEED Destiny did (though it helps that HiME's last episode already took care of that).

[Westlo]

TBH I was more disapointed with Otome than SEED, maybe because I enjoyed Hime more than SEED and thought Otome actually had the potential to surpass the first series.

[ZeroRyoko1974]

I liked Otome. I felt like it kept more true to an actual story line, instead of Hime which was fairly random for about the first half, then suddenly got serious, and then ended with the Sailor Moon reset the world and everyone lives happily ever after ending

[ArcaJ]

I liked Otome. I felt like it kept more true to an actual story line, instead of Hime which was fairly random for about the first half, then suddenly got serious, and then ended with the Sailor Moon reset the world and everyone lives happily ever after ending

Well, everyone except Yukino. Though she got a second chance with Otome. In case I forgot: *dowses Sergey in acid, tosses him into an incnerator and scatters his ashes over Pauly Shore*

Teehee!

::HUGS::

Arca Jeth

[HitokiriShadow]

I thought HiME's last episode was terrible, but I can ignore that because I'm positive that's not the ending they originally intended. I have little doubt that some higher up saw where the series was going and told them they had to make a happy ending (they probably thought a sad ending would hurt sales... apparently said person never heard of Zeta Gundam :roll:)

Anyhow, Otome surpassed Mai HiME ONLY in that its ending was better and more consistent with the rest of the series. And, of course, Mai Otome hasn't completely ended yet as it has OVAs coming out.

[Joeshie]

HiME's last episode wasn't horrible, but it wasn't great either. I was fine with the reset, but I think they could have handled the episode differently so that it wasn't such a cheesy/tacky ending.

And as always, Otome is made of fail and AIDS.

[Professor Chaos]

Unfortunately there are just more anime titles available that I'm interested in than I have the time to watch.

I'm very far behind on My Otome. I'm also very far behind on Gakuen Alice, Zipang, and Rozen Maiden Traumend.

I still haven't finished watching the X TV series, Twelve Kingdoms, Outlaw Star, Big O II, Fancy Lala, and Card Captor Sakura, even though I've bought all of the domestic DVDs.

I want to watch more of My Otome, but I don't know when I'll get around to it.



I wanna know what John Thinks of Outlaw Star and Big-O. Outlaw Star is one of my favorite animes, dont bash I grew up on Toonami anime.