PSP or DS... I can't choose!

[bachaka61]

I went over at EbGames and I could'nt seem to make up my mind. I don't know which one to choose, but the DS games seem a little nicer than the PSP...

But the problem is someone told me you can play with your emulators on your PSP, and listen to music too... Since my Sony MD does'nt work anymore, I need to buy something like an mp3 player...

But the DS games seem nicer.... Arggh I can't choose! Help me!

[Smith]

The DS games are nicer. Besides, you'd save money buying a DS and use that extra $$ for a few more games for the DS. It all boils down to the games you want to play. Which system has the games you just can't stand not playing? Get that system then. IMO the DS has the library, while the PSP has the gadgets and whatchamacallits.

[max payne]

psp, I hate nintendo, they exploit stupid people.

"here i our new DS, it's more expensive, can't play GBA games and is smaller but it has 4 LEVELS OF LIGHTING, WEEEEE!!"

[Kstyle]

psp, I hate nintendo, they exploit stupid people.

"here i our new DS, it's more expensive, can't play GBA games and is smaller but it has 4 LEVELS OF LIGHTING, WEEEEE!!"

Good arguments dude :thumbsup:

Go for the new smaller DS, best games, Online gaming.

[LunarGriever]

The DS can't play GBA games? I guess I must have one of those "special edition" DS's then huh?

Personally I think you should get a DS, right now the games on the DS are much much MUCH better than whats out on the PSP. Granted the PSP will likely come into it's own sooner or later, but for right now the DS is really the much better choice. Besides hopefully by the time the PSP becomes worth owning there will have been a price drop.

[Lord Dagoth]

I'd go with DS if you're into good games. And I'd go with PSP if all you want is aesthetics.

[GreatNekoKoneko]

i'd say PSP. sure, they may have started kinda slow with the games last year, but this year looks promising. and the media storage is quite exceptional. music, videos, and online feature. you just gotta love that PSP!

...and take you time to love it too...

[LordQuadros]

I can't really say anything about the PSP, seeing as I don't own one. However, I can tell you from experience that the DS is a damn fine little machine. The extra touch screen allows for some rather interesting games. Among its better titles are:

-Super Mario 64 DS: Basically SM64 with some extra stars to find. Only problem is that once you beat it, fun time's pretty much over. Still, it's a nice ride while it lasts.
-Meteos: One of the most addicting puzzle games I've ever played. You'll spend quite a bit of time trying to unlock all the extras, and have a pretty good time doing it.
-Mario Kart DS: Nintendo made a really smart decision with this one. It's quite possibly the best Mario Kart since 64, and playing against various people online can be rather fun, provided that you or the other racers don't get disconnected. However, that's pretty much a possibility for whatever you happen to be doing online. Plus, you can design your own emblem, which other racers will be able to see as you try to leave one another in the dust.

The reason I've only listed three games is because that's all I really have had the money to buy. There are others I'm interested in getting, such as Trauma Center: Under the Knife and Resident Evil DS. Again, I don't know anything about the PSP, but I do know that the DS is a purchase you wouldn't regret.

[Gray]

Id say PSP cause i own one and dont like any nintendo handhelds. but the DS is good if youre 11 because of the maturity of the games. the graphics are better on a PSP and its widescreen, but the DS has dual screens. if you want to play games, get a DS. if you want to play games, along with movies and music, well also and internet browser if you have wireless get a PSP. it your choice. try using the WIKI to see what they say about it too.

[Jae Hoon]

Sp owns them both.

[max payne]

who's SP?

I hate the DS, it's just a gimmick thats all. The only good game on there is that dawn of sorrow...

[bachaka61]

Good arguments dude :thumbsup:

Go for the new smaller DS, best games, Online gaming.

Where can I get one? What does its box look like?

[Gray]

Where can I get one? What does its box look like?

who cares what the box looks like. youre gonna throw it away anyway. and its not even out yet. try using google a little more.

[Kstyle]

Where can I get one? What does its box look like?
DS lite (http://www.ds-gamer.nl/forum/thread.php?threadid=6059&sid=140bc7e62230ee61af8bfdd16a32e19f&page=1)

^_^

[Lord Dagoth]

who cares what the box looks like. youre gonna throw it away anyway. and its not even out yet. try using google a little more.

So he knows what kind of box to look for when he goes to the store. Try using common sense a little more.

I don't think the new model is out yet though.

[Gray]

So he knows what kind of box to look for when he goes to the store. Try using common sense a little more.

I don't think the new model is out yet though.

hmmm...lets see, maybe the box with DS LITE on it. right next to the DE LITE DISPLAY STAND. under the big DS sign. right after he sees a commerical for DS LITE.

[max payne]

ok you buy a crazy light up device while I go buy a psp, with imginary.... DAMMIT

[Midoriko87]

hmmm...lets see, maybe the box with DS LITE on it. right next to the DE LITE DISPLAY STAND. under the big DS sign. right after he sees a commerical for DS LITE.

Dang, maybe the guy is into boxes.

Um, neither really. The SP is my only love. DS does has some nice games, but it doesn't play the older GBA games (sorry, GB games). Personally, I don't like any of the PSP games. The PSP features aren't that impressive when you already have other compact media-storage devices.

[Gray]

Dang, maybe the guy is into boxes.

Um, neither really. The SP is my only love. DS does has some nice games, but it doesn't play the older GBA games. Personally, I don't like any of the PSP games. The PSP features aren't that impressive when you already have other compact media-storage devices.

like an ipod video example

[njjn]

PSP for sure

[MightyDustLoop]

like an ipod video example

Don't know if the screens quite compare wih that one.

Owned and sold the DS. Just didn't like it. Graphics were even a bit better than I expected but the controls and the system itself felt clunky. Didn't much like the touch aspect of the device either. Bought it for Castlevania and didn't enjoy it that much. The touch aspect for seals was just plain dumb. I think I enjoyed the GBA ones a bit more.

Maybe I'll change my mind with the interface of the next DS (lite), but as of now, I'm not caring much for touch sensitivity. I'll happily buy a PSP, but I'm awaiting some A titles. They have some things I'd play (SFA, GGX#R, Megaman X), but nothing grade A. I need a system seller that's not a GTA game. Not bad, just not my thing.

[Gaming_Bum]

I suggest you go with the DS. If you are in need of an mp3 player, with the extra money you save with the ds go buy an mp3 player.

DS is doing a hell of a lot better on the gaming side of things. Most of the good psp games, you can buy a better version on the consoles. Just look at most reviews. With games like Mario kart, Castlevania, Meteos, phoenix wright, Resident evil, advance wars and, mario and luigi, you can't go wrong!

Oh yeah and whoever said the new ds can't play gba games, maybe he can explain to us why it has a gba slot with a gba game in it

http://dsmedia.ign.com/ds/image/article/687/687783/ds-lite-colors-revealed-20060210095421570.jpg

And yeah for someone complaining about nintendo remaking the ds. Well sony rereleased their ps1 with rumble. So basically all the people that bought the original ps1 got screwed! Also they rereleased their playstation 2, which tends to overheat! At least nintendo upgrades the product when they rerelease it.

anyways obviously ds can play gba games. so thats hundreds of more games that you can play on the ds.

Why buy the psp when its just going to give you games that they could of easily made on the consoles. We already have 3 consoles, we don't need another.

[Headcrab]

the ds is too akward to use, imo, the games for it are alright, but I think the psp is a lot more comfortable

[max payne]

the ds is too akward to use, imo, the games for it are alright, but I think the psp is a lot more comfortable


Fianlly, a sane person:D

[Gaming_Bum]

http://www.nintendorks.com/chris/archives/scrubs.jpg

looks like you hold a ds like a normal controller. don't see why its so uncomfortable

[Siendra]

I own both and vote for the DS hands down.

You get better games, a better overall online structure, more support, and if you're desperate for media functions - buy a play-yan.

With my PSP, I've been hopelessly bored for months. The software is extrememly lacking, and the media functions suck *** unless you pick up at least a 256mb Pro Duo card. Which adds to the already unjustified cost. And until somebody cracks the current software patch, or allows an ISO load from the memory card, the stuff you heard about emulators is ********.

[Gray]

http://www.nintendorks.com/chris/archives/scrubs.jpg

looks like you hold a ds like a normal controller. don't see why its so uncomfortable

so you just post a picture of a random guy holding it and think that that makes it comfortable? and how do you know what he thinks. he probably gets paid to say good things aobut it.

[Siendra]

All admit, I find the DS a little akward, but I have vastly smaller hands then a normal person (Seriosuly, I've found severel eight-year-old with bigger hands. <.<; ). Although, I find the PSP akward too becuase the nub is so low down on the unit.

[Gaming_Bum]

^ because he is holding the ds exactly like you would hold a normal controller. is the ps2 controller uncomfortable? is the gamecube controller uncomfortable? same thing

[Gray]

^ because he is holding the ds exactly like you would hold a normal controller. is the ps2 controller uncomfortable? is the gamecube controller uncomfortable? same thing

does the DS look anything like a gamecube or PS2 controller? no it dosent. youre making yourslfe look even dumber then you are

[Gray]

All admit, I find the DS a little akward, but I have vastly smaller hands then a normal person (Seriosuly, I've found severel eight-year-old with bigger hands. <.<; ). Although, I find the PSP akward too becuase the nub is so low down on the unit.

yea, i like my PSP, but that thing bugs the crap outta me. and its too sensetive

[Gaming_Bum]

and so what if they don't look the same. appearance has nothing to do with it. you still hold it in the same way.

[Gray]

and so what if they don't look the same. appearance has nothing to do with it. you still hold it in the same way.

wow. you are an idiot. okay, lets begin. You can hold a baseball bat the same way, tou can hold a piece of paper the same way, you can HOLD ANYTHING THE SAME WAY. IT THE SHAPE OF THE CONTROILLER THAT DETERMINES HOW IT FEELS, AND BUTTON PLACEMENT. do you understand that now? or is ti too hard to comprehend. the DS is a square little brick, th PS2 controller has its own unique curved shape. do you get it?

[Gaming_Bum]

wow. you are an idiot. okay, lets begin. You can hold a baseball bat the same way, tou can hold a piece of paper the same way, you can HOLD ANYTHING THE SAME WAY. IT THE SHAPE OF THE CONTROILLER THAT DETERMINES HOW IT FEELS, AND BUTTON PLACEMENT. do you understand that now? or is ti too hard to comprehend. the DS is a square little brick, th PS2 controller has its own unique curved shape. do you get it?


http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/gaming_bum/DSC00789.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y222/gaming_bum/DSC00790.jpg

The position of your hand is what would make it uncomfortable. since the ds is brick shape, Your hand is free to bend and curve how it wants to. So you could even hold the ds exactly like it would with a ps controller.

[Gray]

*just sighs and shakes head* *adds gaming bum to ignore list for being incompetent*

[Gaming_Bum]

but the DS is good if youre 11 because of the maturity of the games. - fullmetal haruko

Anyone else likes how he mentions maturity. But yet he is the one that is shouting out insults left and right? lol


In any case as for the maturity level. Well if the game is fun so what if you don't blow out someone brains? And if you want that, well you got resident evil and castlevania.

as for comfort I suggest the maker of this thread hold a ds and not think about anything. I bet he won't even notice any uncomfort, unless he's looking for problems.

[Solid_Snake]

Id say PSP cause i own one and dont like any nintendo handhelds. but the DS is good if youre 11 because of the maturity of the games. the graphics are better on a PSP and its widescreen, but the DS has dual screens. if you want to play games, get a DS. if you want to play games, along with movies and music, well also and internet browser if you have wireless get a PSP. it your choice. try using the WIKI to see what they say about it too.
Maturity of the games? Every system has its share of childish games, that is the same load of bull when saying the GC is a kiddie system.

And FMA, Dude no offense, you need to calm down and stop insutling people. Getting that angry on the Intarweb Machine is just sad.

I like my PSP.

[Sushikins]

I'd go for the DS. Sure the PSP has it's strong points, but I think it tries to do too much. Plus after browsing through the games, I like the DS selection better. Plus the DS doesn't cost as much.

Note, this may not apply to everyone, but this is how I see it.

PSP - Movie idea is stupid, just buy the DVD. Don't need another MP3 player. Don't like the games enough to spend the large sum of money on it.

DS - Great, fun games, good price, alarm clock.

[Rahxephon91]

I sswear every thread FMH posts in hes insualting someone.

[Gray]

I sswear every thread FMH posts in hes insualting someone.

just in the videogame section pal, its prone to flames.

[Solid_Snake]

just in the videogame section pal, its prone to flames.
Since when? Since fanboys were made.

[Siendra]

Since always. It just slowed down after half of the active VG board members either died out, left, or were banned.

[Rahxephon91]

yeah but atleast Hero of Time and Arisol were smart and creative.

[sfried]

Just get a DS, or you can get yourself a copy of Phoenix Write and wait untill the Lite shows up.

[Animematt55]

isnt there suppsoed to be a new DS comign out?

[Rahxephon91]

yes i think its called Ds Lite
http://ds.ign.com/articles/687/687783p1.html

[Jon]

Get what you feel suits you. From what I've seen, the PSP seems to be infested with a bundle of games that have been done before, and look better/play better on consoles anyways. The DS is cheaper, which is a huge selling point, and has many great titles already available (so does the PSP, but it doesn't have the "new" feel), and can be found for $35 and below.

I'd say wait for the DS Lite if your patient, and then buy yourself a cheap 512mb mp3 player.

[Gray]

The PSP's inputs are geared for gaming rather than multimedia, with two shoulder buttons (triggers), the iconic PlayStation face buttons start and select buttons, a digital 4-directional pad, and an analog input. There is also a row of secondary controls along the underside of the screen, for controlling volume, music settings (either switching the audio off and on in games or selecting different equalizer presets in the OS), screen brightness, accessing the system's main menu, as well as the standard Start and Select buttons. The UMD disks are small enough to fit comfortably in a pocket, and superficially similar to Sony's earlier product, the MiniDisc, but for the lack of a protective shutter and slightly different cartridge shape.

The graphics and audio capabilities of the PSP lie somewhere between those of the original PlayStation and the PlayStation 2. While most of the available games are less complex than games available on PS2, the graphics nonetheless tend to be much closer in quality to the PS2 than the PS1. This is probably in large part due to the small size of the screen, combined with the fact that unlike the PS1, the PSP's graphics chip performs texture filtering.
Because of the UMD's relatively large storage space (1.8 gigabytes) and the PSP's large display screen, some film studios have released feature films in the UMD format with pricing comparable to DVD videos. Studios releasing UMD movies include Disney, Warner Bros. Pictures, Twentieth Century Fox, Lions Gate Entertainment, Sony Pictures, New Line Cinema, Paramount Pictures, DreamWorks Pictures, and Anchor Bay Entertainment. Anime companies, such as Bandai, Geneon, FUNimation, and Viz Media are planning to release anime series, such as Trigun, and Gungrave, and movies, such as Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz, the Ah! My Goddess movie, and Ghost in the Shell.
Because the UMDs cannot be played on a television via some output cable (due to Universal Studios being late among major American motion picture studios to commit to the UMD format) and because few G-rated titles are available in the format, UMDs have been criticized for not truly being "universal." As in many other shortcomings, a third-party hack can allow the PSP to display on a TV set, however using this hack involves removing the faceplate of the PSP. First party European titles Fired Up and Wipeout Pure both shipped with Gamesharing features; subsequent titles have followed suit.
The PlayStation Portable (PSP) was designed by Shi Ogasawara [小笠原氏] for the Sony Computer Entertainment company.

The PlayStation Portable's CPU is a dual-core MIPS32 R4000-based CPU, each core being globally clocked between 1 and 333 MHz. During the GDC, Sony revealed that it has currently capped the PSP's CPU clock at 222 MHz; apparently in an attempt to lengthen battery life. Overheating concerns have also been cited as a possible reason for the cap, and gaming site Gamesradar has said this is the "most logical reason for the processor capping." The cap was previously set at the level of add-on software, not through the firmware (though the crossbar runs at 222 MHz). Exploits could, on previous firmware versions, unlock 333 MHz operation to seemingly no ill effect (except a slight decrease in battery life), but changes to the power management in firmware 2.60's kernel have since made this impossible. The primary CPU core is responsible for traditional game processor functions; the secondary core, dubbed the "Virtual Media Engine," is responsible for decoding multimedia, for example the H.264 decoder.
The independent 166 MHz 90 nm graphics chip sports 2 MB embedded memory and through its 512 bit interface it provides hardware polygon and NURBS rendering, hardware directional lighting, clipping, environment projection and texture mapping, texture compression and tessellation, fogging, alpha blending, depth and stencil tests, vertex blending for morphing effects, and dithering, all in 16 or 32 bit colour, along with handling image output. Specifications state that the PSP is capable of rendering 33 million flat-shaded polygons per second, with a 664 million pixel per second fill rate Unlike Sony's PlayStation 2 console, the GPU (PS2 Vector Unit equivalent) is not programmable, meaning that many effects that the PS2 can resolve in hardware must be implemented in software on the PSP. Nonetheless, the implementation of a GPU in the PSP is still a significant technological advance, in that it implements robust hardware-rendering for 3D graphics in the handheld market. The PSP was preceded in this regard by Nokia's N-Gage in 2003, the Nintendo DS, and the Tapwave Zodiac in 2004.
The Nintendo DS's primary function is as a video game console; no multimedia support is included, although Play-Yan, a special Game Boy Advance cartridge that can read an SD memory card and play movies and music, is available in Japan (see Accessories). The system is hoped to provoke more original development of titles in an industry that Nintendo perceives as being stagnant. Nintendo believes that the unit's unusual dual screen format will inspire creative game design by developers, both its own and third parties'. While the most obvious unique selling point is the dual screens, the system also includes a microphone and touch screen functionality on the lower screen. To date, many games have used the touchscreen to emulate an analogue joystick or mouse. The DS also supports wireless connectivity, using 802.11b standards [5] to allow players to interact with other DS owners within short range (30–100 feet), or over the Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection service by connecting to Wi-Fi hotspots.
The handheld unit has a mass of approximately 275 grams (9.7 ounces). The physical size is 148.7 × 84.7 × 28.9 mm (5.85 × 3.33 × 1.13 inches). It features two separate 3-inch (76 mm) TFT LCD screens, each with a resolution of 256 × 192 and a dot pitch of 0.24 mm. The lowermost display of the DS is overlaid with a touch screen, utilizing a stylus, the user's fingers, or an included wrist strap with a thumb cover for use in place of a stylus. The console uses two separate ARM processors, an ARM9 main CPU and ARM7 coprocessor at clock speeds of 67 MHz and 33 MHz respectively, with 4 MB of main memory. The system's 3D engine is theoretically capable of drawing 120,000 polygons per second, with a fill-rate of 30 million pixels per second.

The DS is the first portable console from Nintendo to incorporate stereo speakers. In addition to the touch screen, the DS has, to the left of the lower display, a traditional four-way control pad (with a narrow Power button above it which needs prolonged pressure to turn off), while to the right are four action buttons (with narrow Select and Start buttons above) A B Y X, following in the footsteps of the SNES controller while hearkening back to the N64 "three-part" digital, analog, and button scheme. On the back, there are the L (Left) and R (Right) buttons, also following the style of the SNES controller.
The system also includes a built-in microphone. The first DS game to use this feature was Feel the Magic: XY/XX, in which several minigames require the player to blow or shout into the microphone. Nintendo's pet simulation game Nintendogs uses the microphone and speech recognition to command and train a virtual dog to perform tricks or other actions. Nintendo has also suggested it could be used for communication over a wireless network. At E3 2005, Nintendo showed a demo of a Nintendo DS being used as a wireless VoIP Phone. Tony Hawk: American Sk8land allows the user to create custom taunts and such, that will play, for example, when one lands a trick. Metroid Prime: Hunters has been confirmed to allow voice chat between friends (meaning you need their friend code) before and after matches.

The DS is compatible with Game Boy Advance (GBA) cartridges; the smaller DS cartridges fit into Slot 1 on the top of the system, while GBA games fit into Slot 2 on the bottom of the system. The DS is not compatible with games for the Game Boy Color and the original Game Boy, due to a slightly different form factor and the absence of the Zilog Z80-like processor used in these systems. This may be an attempt to separate the DS and Nintendo's established Game Boy line of handheld consoles; the GBA, for example, has the Z80 so it can run legacy Game Boy games. It may also be to keep the DS's price down, since including another chipset would likely have significantly added to the cost of producing the unit. In light of this incompatibility, several projects have started to emulate this platform. One such product is the freely available Goomba emulator .
The DS only uses one screen when playing GBA games. The user can configure the system to use either the top or bottom screen by default. The games are displayed within a black border on the screen, due to the slightly different screen resolution between the two systems (256 × 192px (approx. .05 megapixels) DS, 240 × 160px (approx. .04 megapixels) GBA).

DS games inserted into Slot 1 are able to detect the presence of a specific GBA game in Slot 2. In games such as Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow, Kirby: Canvas Curse, WarioWare: Touched!, Feel the Magic: XY/XX, and Advance Wars: Dual Strike, extra content can be unlocked by starting the DS game with the appropriate GBA game of the same series inserted. Also, some games take advantage of Slot 2 as a way to add extra game features.

[max payne]

the new evangelion games are coming out for the PSP

[Siendra]

And? I actually own oroginal copies of the N64 game, IronMaiden, Iron Maiden 2, and Evangelion 2 (PS2) and they all suck. So having more games being released on the PSP is hardly a ringing endorsement.

[max payne]

the psp version looks better, it's like you live their life instead of just fighting all the time.

[SSJ2Cloud]

ok i got this one.. if you like games more get the ds, if you like pics,music, vids more get the psp.

[The Gevin]

For god's sake, don't get a PSP, then buy nothing but f*cking UMD movies... If you're going to get games, COOL!, go for it!,.. but don't be the fool that buys UMDs.

[Matsu'o Tsurayaba]

I hear that the DS is more affordable than the PSP at the moment,there is also a larger game selection for the DS also.You could buy a DS,and a game or two.Instead of the PSP and not much else.

[bachaka61]

So he knows what kind of box to look for when he goes to the store. Try using common sense a little more.

I don't think the new model is out yet though.

Exactly because I thought it was already out...

About the maturity, some people like getting headshots and steal cars but I prefer running with Sonic, kicking *** with Megaman and playing FF games...

The DS lite looks really cool, but the release date...

According to this: http://gonintendo.com/?p=663

It's maybe coming out in mid-May... Arrrgh that's too long, but worth the wait! :P

[Animematt55]

Do the PSP and DS hav eregion encoding?
I heard one of them doesnt so you cna play japanese games.

Also i saw Puyo Pop Fever for the DS, so i gotta get the DS for that game too

[Sendo Takeshi]

First off, I'd like to applaud FullMetalHaruko for his wonderful posts. You make gamers want to stab themselves with a graphics card. Good job.

Anyway, as an owner of both handhelds. The DS clearly owns the PSP in every way possible. The only reason why I purchased the PSP was because my mom wasn't gonna pay for that. Plus, I had extra scratch from my financial aid cash at the time. Plus, it was new at the time that I got it, so it was pretty and I wanted it. Thats it. The ONLY game I'm playing right now for it is Super Robot Wars MX and its a FUKING port! Thats how bad the PSP is right now. Its just getting ports for it. Maverick Hunter X looks nice though. I'll definitely get that soon.

The DS has the games right now. ALSO, they are getting FF3 remade in 3D. How fuking cool is that!? I don't see the PSP getting ANY long *** RPGs stateside(SRWMX being quite long) any time soon. The battery life is too short for most games. Although I haven't been using my DS due to my SRWMX craze at the moment, I can still say that with the three games that I own for my DS I've had a lot more fun with that than the PSP.

Let's put it this way: I DON'T want to play SFZ3 for the PSP. I own the DC and PS1 versions of the damn game and I play it at the arcade already. Thats three versions of the game I've played and the arcade version is still the best one. Give me new games already. I'm tired of seeing rehashed nonsense. The PSP isn't gonna pickup for a good while. And the media option on it suck pure arse. The sound quality on the MP3 playback isn't what I expected it to be for a Sony product. Usually Sony delivers beautifully on the sound department for audio. Plus, I have internet already. I don't need the web browser. Its pretty crappy anyway.

So bottom line: The DS. You get more fun and more games for your buck. 30 dollars for games? Brand new games, no less? Come on now. We all know which one is better now. And the games still look good visually. As a matter of fact, I think its time for some Mario and Luigi RPG2 right now.

[Sendo Takeshi]

Do the PSP and DS hav eregion encoding?
I heard one of them doesnt so you cna play japanese games.

Also i saw Puyo Pop Fever for the DS, so i gotta get the DS for that game too



None of them have region encoding. So you're good to go with the imports.

[Siendra]

None of them have region encoding. So you're good to go with the imports.


There's no region coding on games. However, UMD movies, and albums do have region coding.

[Sendo Takeshi]

There's no region coding on games. However, UMD movies, and albums do have region coding.



Well, I saw the word games in his post. So, I'm guessing he was referring to just the games.

[Haruhi]

First off, I'd like to applaud FullMetalHaruko for his wonderful posts. You make gamers want to stab themselves with a graphics card. Good job.


A good job on a copy and paste job?

Anyways, DS owns the PSP so much, it's almost unfair. Remember in that movie, Wedding Crashers, where John (Owel Wilson's character) meets up with Chazz (Who I will not give away the actor to, because of his insanely awesome performance) and learns that he was funeral crashing? Well, Chazz says something that puts into perspective just how badly DS owns PSP.

It's like fishing with dynamite.

That's how unfairly the DS is owning PSP.

[Gray]

A good job on a copy and paste job?

i guess he didnt catch on that those were from the WIKI. oh well.

[Sendo Takeshi]

A good job on a copy and paste job?




I was referring to his earlier posts.

[Rahxephon91]

A good job on a copy and paste job?

Anyways, DS owns the PSP so much, it's almost unfair. Remember in that movie, Wedding Crashers, where John (Owel Wilson's character) meets up with Chazz (Who I will not give away the actor to, because of his insanely awesome performance) and learns that he was funeral crashing? Well, Chazz says something that puts into perspective just how badly DS owns PSP.

It's like fishing with dynamite.

That's how unfairly the DS is owning PSP.
oh but can you watch Wedding Crashers on the DS?

[Gray]

oh but can you watch Wedding Crashers on the DS?

yea actually you can.
http://www.lik-sang.com/info.php?category=246&products_id=3983&

[Sendo Takeshi]

oh but can you watch Wedding Crashers on the DS?



But can you get the extras on UMDs? Nope. And its not even high quality. So UMD for the loss. And even then, UMDs can't help sell PSPs forever.

[Rahxephon91]

oh god forbid people like watching movies on the run.

[Gray]

oh god forbid people like watching movies on the run.

as i said*points to abouve post* you can watch movies on the DS. and music too. and ebooks.

[Sendo Takeshi]

oh god forbid people like watching movies on the run.



Get a portable DVD player. Much cheaper and you don't have to buy the same movie twice. Why buy a PSP for movies only if you're not gonna play the games? I've seen that a lot over here in NYC. Dudes buying PSPs just for movies that they've seen a billion times. But of course, the PSP is a fashion statement over here in NYC. You rarely see people with DS' on the street around these parts.

[Rahxephon91]

as i said*points to abouve post* you can watch movies on the DS. and music too. and ebooks.
I was refering to Deaths post.

[Gray]

You rarely see people with DS' on the street around these parts.
probably cause they'd get beat up lol.
seriously, people buy a DS for games. people buy a PSP for everything else. it useless to start a which should i get topic in here cause its gonna be a flame war. try the WIKI or google for gods sake. or search the vid game forum. there like 5 of these already. AND ONCE AGAIN. YOU CAN PLAY MOVIES ON THE DS.

[Sendo Takeshi]

probably cause they'd get beat up lol.
seriously, people buy a DS for games. people buy a PSP for everything else. it useless to start a which should i get topic in here cause its gonna be a flame war. try the WIKI or google for gods sake. or search the vid game forum. there like 5 of these already. AND ONCE AGAIN. YOU CAN PLAY MOVIES ON THE DS.


I didn't buy a PSP for everything else. I got it because I was expecting revolutionary handheld gaming. I guess Sony forgot to pack that in the box. Might have to email them about that. Like I said before, Super Robot Wars MX is the only worthwhile PSP game alongside Maverick Hunter X.

[Rahxephon91]

Get a portable DVD player. Much cheaper and you don't have to buy the same movie twice. Why buy a PSP for movies only if you're not gonna play the games? I've seen that a lot over here in NYC. Dudes buying PSPs just for movies that they've seen a billion times. But of course, the PSP is a fashion statement over here in NYC. You rarely see people with DS' on the street around these parts.
Yes but the PSP can do much more then a Portable DVD player. Its more portable, can surf the net, can play online games(yes I know the DS can), can play movies in good quality, can do Ipod like functions(interface needs a fix) can act as a portable hardrive, can play old Nes and Super Nes games, and is a sexy device. Hell it even has tivo features

The games while the best or getting better with:

Socom Fire Team Brovo
GTA Liberty City Stories
Next GTA Game
Monster Hunter Freedom
Mega Man Power Up
Mega Man Maverick Hunter
Street Fighter Alpha 3
Viewtieful Joe Red Hot Rumble
Infected
Tokobot
Splinter Cell PSP Game
Metal Gear PSP game
Kingdom of Paradise
The Legend of Heros
Syphon Filter Dark Mirror
Metal Gear Acid 2
Daxtar
Generation of Choas

I'll take the PSP over the DS with its many multimedia features and upcomming games that arent using a gimmick.

and in the end
GBA>PSP>DS

[Haruhi]

I'll take the PSP over the DS with its many multimedia features and upcomming games that arent using a gimmick.



Pfft. Gimmick? Is that the new word synonymous to quality gaming now?

[Sendo Takeshi]

Yes but the PSP can do much more then a Portable DVD player. Its more portable, can surf the net, can play online games(yes I know the DS can), can play movies in good quality, can do Ipod like functions(interface needs a fix) can act as a portable hardrive, can play old Nes and Super Nes games, and is a sexy device. Hell it even has tivo features

The games while the best or getting better with:

Socom Fire Team Brovo
GTA Liberty City Stories
Next GTA Game
Monster Hunter Freedom
Mega Man Power Up
Mega Man Maverick Hunter
Street Fighter Alpha 3
Viewtieful Joe Red Hot Rumble
Infected
Tokobot
Splinter Cell PSP Game
Metal Gear PSP game
Kingdom of Paradise
The Legend of Heros
Syphon Filter Dark Mirror
Metal Gear Acid 2
Daxtar
Generation of Choas

I'll take the PSP over the DS with its many multimedia features and upcomming games that arent using a gimmick.

and in the end
GBA>PSP>DS


None of those games can trample the might and terror that is Castlevania Dawn of Sorrow. None of them. If anything, you left out Super Robot Wars MX and the Bleach fighting game. Maybe two or three PSP games are good and two of them are import only.

The PSP surfs the net on a crappy connection. Not the best really. And the movies are of average quality. Its OK at best. Nothing to go gaga over. It can play old NES and SNES games on it, but you need to downgrade your firmware and last I checked you can only downgrade once. 2.0 hasn't even been hacked for emulation or has it? Because Sony is already on 2.5(which I have and is the Tivo feature) and its only gonna keep releasing more and more updates.

And with everything it does, where does it leave my battery life? Close to nothing. Sorry, its either games or an iPod IMO. Plus, I own an iPod already. So that stuff doesn't amuse me that much.

And I don't consider ports to be a part of a system "getting better" games. Its a port. Theres nothing good that comes out of a port. Such as the case with SFZ3.

Plus, to know that you have to purchase a new memory stick as soon as you get a PSP is not something I consider fun to find out. 2 gigs for 170 dollars? No. Simply no. And what happens then when you fill up the memory stick with stuff that you don't want to delete? You would have to buy a new one. The PSP is the gimmick compared to the DS. The DS gives me longer battery life and it has a sh!tload of games both U.S. and Japanese.

So lets rearrange the fiction with fact:

SP>DS>>>>>>>PSP

[Rahxephon91]

Pfft. Gimmick? Is that the new word synonymous to quality gaming now?
what quailty? I have yet to see anything great on the DS that would make me buy it. Dawn of Sorrow is good dont get me wrong but it dosent really use the touch screen in any fantastic way. the only game that really uses the Touch screen in a intersting way is the Kirby DS game, other then that, theres nothing I see thats really a fantastic game.

None of those games can trample the might and terror that is Castlevania Dawn of Sorrow. None of them. If anything, you left out Super Robot Wars MX and the Bleach fighting game. Maybe two or three PSP games are good and two of them are import only.
Dawn of Sorrow is one game. I rather take the many fun games on the psp then the one good Ds game.
The PSP surfs the net on a crappy connection. Not the best really I find the quailty to be really great.

I never sayed it did but it can and it can always be improved.
And the movies are of average quality. Its OK at best
Plus, to know that you have to purchase a new memory stick as soon as you get a PSP is not something I consider fun to find out. 2 gigs for 170 dollars? No. Simply no. And what happens then when you fill up the memory stick with stuff that you don't want to delete? You would have to buy a new one. The PSP is the gimmick compared to the DS. The DS gives me longer battery life and it has a sh!tload of games both U.S. and Japanese.
Yes your right thats a flaw but with better technology those prices are going to fall. i can already get a 1gig stick for around $49.99

And I don't consider ports to be a part of a system "getting better" games. Its a port. Theres nothing good that comes out of a port. Such as the case with SFZ3.
yes some are ports but not all. the DS has ports to.
So lets rearrange the fiction with fact:
Thats your opionion not fact.

[Sendo Takeshi]

what quailty? I have yet to see anything great on the DS that would make me buy it. Dawn of Sorrow is good dont get me wrong but it dosent really use the touch screen in any fantastic way. the only game that really uses the Touch screen in a intersting way is the Kirby DS game, other then that, theres nothing I see thats really a fantastic game.

The DS has plenty. You're just not looking hard enough.


Dawn of Sorrow is one game. I rather take the many fun games on the psp then the one good Ds game.

Many fun games? Talk about understatement. I don't even play ANY of the PSP games that I have other than Super Robot Wars MX and PopoloCrois. TWO games out of how many that have been released? Most of the PSP games have been poor efforts. Theres nothing new and innovative. Its nothing but ports.

I find the quailty to be really great.

I never sayed it did but it can and it can always be improved.

Like I said before, quality is average at best. And some of the movies are too expensive for the damn thing. And I already own what I've wanted on DVD. No point in wasting battery life when theres a game I'm playing.


Yes your right thats a flaw but with better technology those prices are going to fall. i can already get a 1gig stick for around $49.99

And with better tech comes high prices well, i.e. the PSP itself.

yes some are ports but not all. the DS has ports to.

Some? You haven't compared the U.S. catalogue to the Japanese one have you? The Japanese PSP has more games than the American PSP.

Thats your opionion not fact.

Lets be realistic here. The DS is crushing the PSP here and in Japan. I would believe it to be true.

[Sendo Takeshi]

and sony is crusing nintendo.big deal



Note that I was referring to handhelds. And you're right. It is a big deal. It was a big deal when Sega stopped making consoles.

And you respond with a sentence. Yeah. You're a spammer and you're good at it. Man, if todays youth is gonna inherit this planet, I feel sorry for the future.

[Haruhi]

and sony is crusing nintendo.big deal

In console sales. Not handhelds.

[DAM8024]

I prefer the classic Tiger Handheld games over both the PSP and DS :P .

http://www.handheldmuseum.com/Tiger/index.html

[Rahxephon91]

The DS has plenty. You're just not looking hard enough.
I have looked and I have yet to see any DS game that makes me want the system. The poster is asking for our opinions and mine is the PSP is the better buy
Many fun games? Talk about understatement. I don't even play ANY of the PSP games that I have other than Super Robot Wars MX and PopoloCrois. TWO games out of how many that have been released? Most of the PSP games have been poor efforts. Theres nothing new and innovative. Its nothing but ports. Whats so inovative about a touch screen. YAY I can wipe away frozen things in Dawn of Srorrow, Yay i can have a virtual pet, ofcourse thats never been done before.Yay theres a map that i can look at in Nanostray and Mario Kart. Rellay none of the DS games have given me any intersting gaming experinces.
Some? You haven't compared the U.S. catalogue to the Japanese one have you? The Japanese PSP has more games than the American PSP.
I live in america, i really dont care about whats only available over there.

Lets be realistic here. The DS is crushing the PSP here and in Japan. I would believe it to be true.
From http://www.the-magicbox.com/gaming.htm
- Here are the Japanese console hardware sales for the week of Jan 30 - Feb 5, 2006:

1. PSP - 25,905 [285,276] units
2. Nintendo DS - 25,321 [341,580] units
3. PlayStation 2 - 24,780 [195,457] units
4. GBA SP - 5,649 [46,932] units
5. GB Micro - 3,199 [29,053] units
6. Xbox 360 - 2,194 [21,370] units
7. GameCube - 2,138 [28,552] units
8. GBA - 115 [1,327] units
9. Xbox - 101 [587] unit
Its not crushing if the PSP can outsell the DS.

[Rahxephon91]

And you respond with a sentence. Yeah. You're a spammer and you're good at it. Man, if todays youth is gonna inherit this planet, I feel sorry for the future.
I'll be glad to inhert the planet from an older generation who thinks there opionion is the only truth and is fact.

[Sendo Takeshi]

I live in america, i really dont care about whats only available over there.

And yet its usually Japan that gets the better games.

From http://www.the-magicbox.com/gaming.htm
- Here are the Japanese console hardware sales for the week of Jan 30 - Feb 5, 2006:

1. PSP - 25,905 [285,276] units
2. Nintendo DS - 25,321 [341,580] units
3. PlayStation 2 - 24,780 [195,457] units
4. GBA SP - 5,649 [46,932] units
5. GB Micro - 3,199 [29,053] units
6. Xbox 360 - 2,194 [21,370] units
7. GameCube - 2,138 [28,552] units
8. GBA - 115 [1,327] units
9. Xbox - 101 [587] unit
Its not crushing if the PSP can outsell the DS.


Thats ONE week. The DS has been out for nearly two years. I believe that its complete fact that Nintendo owns the handheld market for nearly 20 years and counting.

AND its only edging it out by 300 units? Yeah, right. Good job Sony. I thought you guys wanted to rule the world by any means? Well selling 300 more items than the other guy doesn't mean squat. Just look at the numbers in the brackets. Damn well near 100,000 MORE units than the PSP.

[Mercenary]

DS, no contest.
Better price, better library, better quality.

PSP is nice for the extras it offers but it is far too costly, although if you are looking for convenience over quality then it may be the thing to pick up. But if you mainly want it for gaming DS by a landslide.

Heck I hate handhelds and the DS has so many games that even I am highly tempted to get one. I will once the DS Lite comes out in some kind of bundle in a year or so with some game :/

[Rahxephon91]

AND its only edging it out by 300 units? Yeah, right. Good job Sony. I thought you guys wanted to rule the world by any means? Well selling 300 more items than the other guy doesn't mean squat. Just look at the numbers in the brackets. Damn well near 100,000 MORE units than the PSP.
Yes but Its not Crushing The PSP. An example of crushing would be the PS2 and the Gamecube

[Siendra]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y114/randomfile/JPNHandhelds.png


Really, not ctrushing the PSP? That looks like it is too me.

[Gray]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y114/randomfile/JPNHandhelds.png


Really, not ctrushing the PSP? That looks like it is too me.

cant read the date but DS really shot up in that perid tword the end of the graph

[Sendo Takeshi]

Yes but Its not Crushing The PSP. An example of crushing would be the PSP and the Gamecube



It is and it will in the long run. Nintendo has been in the handheld game for how long already? Sony can't even touch Nintendo in that category even if they were given a 10 foot pole to reach. And the only reason its selling is because its a Sony product as well. People go gahgah over Sony products.

And Sony's games aren't even great in the first place. They're average games at best. Its basically stuff that can be released on the PS2. And the PSP is really a very fragile thing right now. It can be make or break at any moment for the PSP. After all, they're focusing more on the multimedia aspects of the thing rather than the games. The PSP launch wasn't even great(all of Sony's launches aren't). They're basically alienating the gamers that made Sony who they are today. And of course its the reason why they made the thing the way it is. If Sony would have released the PSP as a handheld alone it would have tanked immediately. Thus making it this generations Sega Nomad.

Sony knows they can't catch up to Nintendo in the handheld department. They'll sell units, but not because of their games.

[Gray]

It is and it will in the long run. Nintendo has been in the handheld game for how long already? Sony can't even touch Nintendo in that category even if they were given a 10 foot pole to reach. And the only reason its selling is because its a Sony product as well. People go gahgah over Sony products.

And Sony's games aren't even great in the first place. They're average games at best. Its basically stuff that can be released on the PS2. And the PSP is really a very fragile thing right now. It can be make or break at any moment for the PSP. After all, they're focusing more on the multimedia aspects of the thing rather than the games. The PSP launch wasn't even great(all of Sony's launches aren't). They're basically alienating the gamers that made Sony who they are today. And of course its the reason why they made the thing the way it is. If Sony would have released the PSP as a handheld alone it would have tanked immediately. Thus making it this generations Sega Nomad.

Sony knows they can't catch up to Nintendo in the handheld department. They'll sell units, but not because of their games.

the only reason i even bought a PS2 was because it seems that any Anime games that come out are for the PS2. but i guess that cause PS2 is more popular in japan, since im more partial to microsoft.

[Rahxephon91]

And Sony's games aren't even great in the first place. They're average games at best.

the PSP's games are fun and worth owning. Every DS game just seems to have a gimmick to them. None of the DS games are really intersting to me. I rather take the PSP and play its games that dont have gimmicks and are fun to play. Yes the PSP is a portable PS2 and yes the games show that. But these games are fun and thats why i find the PSP to be better then the DS. Which i think has really notihng fun.

[Sendo Takeshi]

the PSP's games are fun and worth owning. Every DS game just seems to have a gimmick to them. None of the DS games are really intersting to me. I rather take the PSP and play its games that dont have gimmicks and are fun to play. Yes the PSP is a portable PS2 and yes the games show that. But these games are fun and thats why i find the PSP to be better then the DS. Which i think has really notihng fun.



PSP games at the moment aren't worth owning. The only game I purchased in the last few months for the PSP was Super Robot Wars MX. Its the only fun game and thats it. And if DS games had gimmicks they wouldn't get the praise they do.

[Gray]

PSP games at the moment aren't worth owning. The only game I purchased in the last few months for the PSP was Super Robot Wars MX. Its the only fun game and thats it. And if DS games had gimmicks they wouldn't get the praise they do.

well i wouldnt go so far as to say praise, but this gimmick thing throws me off. what gimmik do you mean?

[Rahxephon91]

PSP games at the moment aren't worth owning. The only game I purchased in the last few months for the PSP was Super Robot Wars MX. Its the only fun game and thats it. And if DS games had gimmicks they wouldn't get the praise they do.
I like how you go around and prarade your opinion as fact. In my opinion there is no DS game worth owning.

[Geo]

I found the DS more fun when it comes to playing games. There are a bunch of titles that make me happy to own.

The PSP also has a fair share of games, but not much of it interests me. Personally, the only extra features on the PSP i use are mp3s and storage space. Emulated games feel slow on it (well, the early one anyways). I don't see any good reasons for using my PSP to browse the net or watch movies (though i do enjoy sticking music videos in there).

Basically I'd say it depends what you want more. If you're more into gaming only, take the DS. If you like gaming yet also like listening to music, watching little movies, storage carrier, etc. get the PSP.

[Siendra]

I like how you go around and prarade your opinion as fact. In my opinion there is no DS game worth owning.

See, that's just plain fanboyism. Both have games worth playing, regardless of your tastes.

[Sendo Takeshi]

I like how you go around and prarade your opinion as fact. In my opinion there is no DS game worth owning.



But its no question that Nintendo is the best at handhelds hands down. Therefore it is simple fact. Just look at video game history.

The Atari Lynx(a bit before your time): It tried and guess what. It failed. The Gameboy emerged victorious because it had the more FUN games.

The Game Gear: Wasn't even worth it. The games were bland and it cost too much. The Gameboy wiped the floor with it.

The Nomad: It was ahead of its time. It was great to have been able to play Genesis games on the go. BUT, it didn't offer anything new in terms of gaming innovation.

Nokia Ngage: It defeated itself because it tried doing TOO much and offered too little.

And lo and behold that the Gameboy was still around and survived to evolve into the DS. Face it kid, Nintendo has the utter stranglehold on the handheld market. It knows how to do it and do it right without even having to offer super gadgets to the people and it does it at a low affordable price just like his big bro the Gameboy. Now imagine if Nintendo DOES make the GBA2, the PSP is definitely not gonna win that fight.

Face it, 6 hours of battery life can't let you enjoy EVERYTHING on the PSP. And its expensive to boot. 2 or 3 enjoyable games(Japan has a lot more games for their PSPs than we do) that have PS2 incarnations or have been done already on the PS2 doesn't constitute fun. PSP games aren't anything to rave about anyway. At the rate Sony is releasing games as well, I don't see the PSP getting further. And yes, everyone knows that Sony tends to give up on some of their hardware. HDD, anyone? Eyetoy, folks?

[Gaming_Bum]

ok you know how I see this. When it comes to games. Psp is killing nintendo on the whole sports side of things. But Really right now, probably over half of the good psp games are sports games. But I really suggest you get sports games on a console, Unless you travel A LOT!

If you're looking for a bit more variety, the ds is better for gaming. And as for the whole gimmick thing. Some games I'll admit through in the touch screen for no apparent reason. But most of the good games don't.

[The Million Dollar Prons]

PSP is a better handheld when it comes to hardwear, but I lean tward DS when it comes to games.

[Headcrab]

but the DS is good if youre 11 because of the maturity of the games. - fullmetal haruko

Anyone else likes how he mentions maturity. But yet he is the one that is shouting out insults left and right? lol


In any case as for the maturity level. Well if the game is fun so what if you don't blow out someone brains? And if you want that, well you got resident evil and castlevania.

as for comfort I suggest the maker of this thread hold a ds and not think about anything. I bet he won't even notice any uncomfort, unless he's looking for problems.
Sure the DS is fine if your into the niche games that it offers but in comparison to the SP (even though it plays gba games as well) its just not as good as the sp, so Ill keep my sp and my psp :P
yeah you can watch movies on the ds if you squint really really hard

[Kstyle]

the PSP's games are fun and worth owning. Every DS game just seems to have a gimmick to them. None of the DS games are really intersting to me. I rather take the PSP and play its games that dont have gimmicks and are fun to play. Yes the PSP is a portable PS2 and yes the games show that. But these games are fun and thats why i find the PSP to be better then the DS. Which i think has really notihng fun.

Really, have you ever played on a DS?

Gimmicks..DS..ow,wait and PSP has none..GTA,Wipe out,...?

DS has Mario cart...the best handheld game at the moment.

PSP:Ehm,...GTA...haha :lol: , naah!

[futurebiblehero]

I'm not even going to bother reading and/or responding to the fanboy arguments, but I'd go for the DS. I owned a PSP and amusingly enough traded it in for more DS games. The only games I ever played on it was Lumines and Ridge Racer, and after looking to the future I didn't see that changing all that much.

I suppose it really comes down to what you want. If you want a portable game system, then go for the DS. If you want a portable media player, then go for the PSP. The DS sucks at portable media unless you want to watch episodes of Strawberry Shortcake on a GBA cart and franky, the PSP sucks at games.

[Rahxephon91]

And lo and behold that the Gameboy was still around and survived to evolve into the DS. Face it kid, Nintendo has the utter stranglehold on the handheld market. It knows how to do it and do it right without even having to offer super gadgets to the people and it does it at a low affordable price just like his big bro the Gameboy. Now imagine if Nintendo DOES make the GBA2, the PSP is definitely not gonna win that fight.

Face it, 6 hours of battery life can't let you enjoy EVERYTHING on the PSP. And its expensive to boot. 2 or 3 enjoyable games(Japan has a lot more games for their PSPs than we do) that have PS2 incarnations or have been done already on the PS2 doesn't constitute fun. PSP games aren't anything to rave about anyway. At the rate Sony is releasing games as well, I don't see the PSP getting further. And yes, everyone knows that Sony tends to give up on some of their hardware. HDD, anyone? Eyetoy, folks?
No you need to face the fact the other people can have other opinions. Not everyone likes the DS. i dont and I dont care what you say. I like the PSP more then the DS. I think the PSP is better. Its an opinion not a fact just like saying the DS is better its not a fact.


Really, have you ever played on a DS?

Gimmicks..DS..ow,wait and PSP has none..GTA,Wipe out,...?

DS has Mario cart...the best handheld game at the moment.

PSP:Ehm,...GTA...haha , naah!
I'll take GTA over any Mario game. i have never liked Mario.

[Sendo Takeshi]

No you need to face the fact the other people can have other opinions. Not everyone likes the DS. i dont and I dont care what you say. I like the PSP more then the DS. I think the PSP is better. Its an opinion not a fact just like saying the DS is better its not a fact.


I'll take GTA over any Mario game. i have never liked Mario.



You're still alive? I thought I buried you a long time ago. Oh well, whatever. Kids like flashy sh!t and ignore the really good stuff. Have fun with your average PSP games. Gimme a call when the PSP finally delivers some real games. Not just rehashed material.

[Rahxephon91]

You're still alive? I thought I buried you a long time ago. Oh well, whatever. Kids like flashy sh!t and ignore the really good stuff. Have fun with your average PSP games. Gimme a call when the PSP finally delivers some real games. Not just rehashed material.
oh yes the DS has no rehased material at all.

Yes I will play my very fun PSP games which are better then the DS's boring games.

[sfried]

oh yes the DS has no rehased material at all.
Actually, DS has less rehash material than PSP.

And there're some nice upcoming games for the DS that are not Mario (But if you like Maio, then all the better, because there is a new, real platforming Mario game coming): Tenchu, Metroid, Children of Mana, what were those RPGs again? Not to mention it has surprisingly tons of support from 3rd parties.

[Gray]

oh come on deathscythe, you mean you never played sonic on a gamegear? i used to think that was so cool....

[Gray]

You're still alive? I thought I buried you a long time ago. Oh well, whatever. Kids like flashy sh!t and ignore the really good stuff. Have fun with your average PSP games. Gimme a call when the PSP finally delivers some real games. Not just rehashed material.

i tjought socom was pretty good....

[Jon]

oh come on deathscythe, you mean you never played sonic on a gamegear? i used to think that was so cool....

Sonic on gamegear was awesome :) . Besides that, there was nothing else worth playing, to me anyways.

BTW, everyone should shutup about their opinions, and stop arguing. You nor the person who disagrees with you will ever give up.

i tjought socom was pretty good....


SOCOM is fun, but I'd rather play it on a PS2 anyways. Big upgrade from a PSP screen to a 30 inch TV :)

[Sendo Takeshi]

oh come on deathscythe, you mean you never played sonic on a gamegear? i used to think that was so cool....


I did. Made want a GameGear in two seconds but after that, there was nothing else.

[Gray]

I did. Made want a GameGear in two seconds but after that, there was nothing else.

yea i know what you mean. i still play it every once in a while.

[regus 5000]

You're still alive? I thought I buried you a long time ago. Oh well, whatever. Kids like flashy sh!t and ignore the really good stuff. Have fun with your average PSP games. Gimme a call when the PSP finally delivers some real games. Not just rehashed material.
im all for the first amendment and all that jazz but could you not talk down to everyone to make yourself seem superiour. contrary to belief, being old is not cool. according the glowing box and mtv your what we in the biz call....a lame. :P i for one have played a ds and found it to be a little boring. i own a psp and love all the features and yes the games too. But maybe your right. maybe all of the games on the psp are boring, because we all know that noone like to crash cars in burnout or running around Liberty City. i find burnout to be an awsome game that i could play for hours as well as messing around in grand theft auto.

Ofcourse the psp has no chance to overtake the ds or nintendo in the handheld market. like you said they have held that spot solo for about 20years, but they are doing a darn good job of keeping up. if the psp didnt have all of these features and cost more then the average person can afford then the ds would have a run for its money.

[place reflame here]

[max payne]

Finally a sane person :D:D:D:D

[regus 5000]

Finally a sane person :D:D:D:D
who me. im as far away from sane as they come :P

[max payne]

wanna bet?

[GTOSub21]

DS is more Fun to me then PSP, I remember I thought the DS was so stupid, but it was actually extremely fun. My PSP just sat their so yeah...

[max payne]

give me your psp then

[hiroaki]

Nintendou DS browser(Opera) (http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/2006/02/15/103,1139998865,48752,0,0.html)

ATOK&TVtuner (http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/2006/02/15/103,1139990282,48745,0,0.html)

[Kstyle]

That DS browser looks SWEET, with the touchscreen. Now DS can compete with PSP on multimedia.

[cyborgaaron]

The DS has much better games and playablitiy. Nintendo always thinks of something crazy to make and there touchscreen is great. PSP isn't living to its full potental and has quite a few crappy games compaired to the DS.

[regus 5000]

dont exactly now why you would want to buy a bulky add on to watch basic television, but the web browser looks like it would be easy to type. but if im not mistaken wifi needs an adapter

[sfried]

dont exactly now why you would want to buy a bulky add on to watch basic television, but the web browser looks like it would be easy to type. but if im not mistaken wifi needs an adapter
DS already has a built-in Wi-Fi adapter.

[Lord Dagoth]

He might be talking about the little thing that goes in your PC's USB port...I really don't know though.

[Gaming_Bum]

EGM gave DS system of the year for 2005.

[Jae Hoon]

EGM gave DS system of the year for 2005.


First EGM sucks, second there wasnt much comp. It was the DS or the PSP, the 360 didnt come out until almost 2006.

[Gaming_Bum]

First EGM sucks, second there wasnt much comp. It was the DS or the PSP, the 360 didnt come out until almost 2006.


lol well this thread is about psp or ds. So I don't think that the lack of competition actually matters when it comes to this thread.

As for egm sucking, well thats your opinion.

[regus 5000]

He might be talking about the little thing that goes in your PC's USB port...I really don't know though.
yes that is what i was taling about. if the ds has built in wifi then what is that for.

[Gaming_Bum]

Oh yeah I would also like to add, Game of the month for egm is Age of the empire DS.

And this is what they said about DS being system of the year

It was the little system that could...let you touch it without ending up with a lawsuit. It was also the system that could persevere in the face of the all powerful playstation brand and its massively hyped psp launch. Marketing, schmarketing its the games that matter, and the ds had some damn good ones.
We could argue about which puzzle game is better, DS meteos or psp lumines, but no one could argue that titles like castlevania ds advance wars ds and mario kart ds, and so on (don't forget gba games like zelda: minish cap) didn't make the ds the awesomest system of 2005, portable or otherwise. - egm

[flammie]

yes that is what i was taling about. if the ds has built in wifi then what is that for.

For people who do not have access to wireless networks and would like to use their wired network with DS wifi.

[Siendra]

[QUOTE=regus 5000]dont exactly now why you would want to buy a bulky add on to watch basic television,/QUOTE]

Bulky? It's a DS card with an antenna sticking out of it.

http://ds.advancedmn.com/images/content/news/dstuner3.jpg

[regus 5000]

it sticks out of the system and has a huge antena so you can watch scratchy television

[Siendra]

It sticks out 6mm...

[Gray]

wow so i see this is still going.... *looks at tv browser* wow....thats....actually pretty cool. i remembersomething like that for gamegear. lol, at least thats not 300 bucks(thats how much the one for PSP is) as for the browser, its a cool idea, besides the sit being in japanese, but its the same with the psp. it pretty pointless cause of the small screens

[hiroaki]

BTW,psp2(next psp) is a rumor that it will have HDD.

Sony wants to knock down iPod. It's interesting fantasy.

[regus 5000]

i seriously doubt they will be able to fit that into a handheld any time soon but we can always dream

[Anamin]

Anyone know when the DS lite is coming out?

[regus 5000]

Anyone know when the DS lite is coming out?
what is a ds lite. let me guess, some insignificant upgrade nintendo is push on us :P

[Gaming_Bum]

what is a ds lite. let me guess, some insignificant upgrade nintendo is push on us :P


Something like that. Its a smaller Ds, with a brighter screen, and stronger battery. Its also a hell of a lot sexier. of course the people with a ds, don't reallly need the dslite, since its pretty much the same.

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/news/060126.jpg

http://www.flashanimate.com/linkedimages/pspds.jpg



Oh yeah everyone should check out the metroid prime hunters trailer. The game is coming out next month, and it'll be online with voice chat. So if you haven't seen the trailer watch it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jQLCsq1VGM&search=metroid%20hunters

[Siendra]

What the heck possesed you to link to youtube for a gaming trailer. Gametrailers, IGN, Gamespot, and the official site all have higher quality versions.

[Gaming_Bum]

What the heck possesed you to link to youtube for a gaming trailer. Gametrailers, IGN, Gamespot, and the official site all have higher quality versions.


I was at youtube.com at that moment. lol

[GTOSub21]

give me your psp then

If I knew you I probly would :lol:

[GTOSub21]

Ok DS lite in black is so hot, I needa get it. I really want the new metroid too

[bachaka61]

The DS Lite is gonna take too much time to be out here in the US....

I got an idea... How bout I buy an import DS Lite from Japan when it comes out in 2 weeks? There's no region for the DS, and does'nt the Japanese version include English language?

[Gaming_Bum]

The DS Lite is gonna take too much time to be out here in the US....

I got an idea... How bout I buy an import DS Lite from Japan when it comes out in 2 weeks? There's no region for the DS, and does'nt the Japanese version include English language?


Yeah there is no region and it does include the English language. If you want, I could give you some good import sites if you don't know any.

but I won't lie importing is probably going to cost you an arm and a leg.

edit: the cheapest I found the ds lite is 169, plus the cost of shipping. I believe when ds lite does come out, it'll be 150. So I think you'll be paying about 30 dollars more to get it early. Not to mention you'll probably be one of the few people with one.

[bachaka61]

^ok.What are some good sites?

[Gaming_Bum]

www.playasia.com
www.liksang.com
www.ncsx.com - if you can find the ds lite here, I would recommend these guys.
www.yesasia.com

[futurebiblehero]

NCSX is awesome, but their shipping's often quite expensive.

[MightyDustLoop]

Ok DS lite in black is so hot, I needa get it. I really want the new metroid too

Hmm, thought they were only releasing Navy.

Either way, my qualms with the DS hardware may very well be smoothed over by the Lite. May not make the wait until PSP gets some good software I'm interested out and pick up a Lite instead. I'll just have to see one of these for myself.

[futurebiblehero]

Hmm, thought they were only releasing Navy.


Yeah, as far as I know the black one is just a Photoshop.

[GTOSub21]

Hmm, thought they were only releasing Navy.

Either way, my qualms with the DS hardware may very well be smoothed over by the Lite. May not make the wait until PSP gets some good software I'm interested out and pick up a Lite instead. I'll just have to see one of these for myself.

You know what looks like a lot of fun for the psp, Generation of Chaos :D

and boo to navy I wanted black :P

[Siendra]

Yeah, as far as I know the black one is just a Photoshop.

No it isn't. There's Black, Blue, and White. All three units have already had hands on time.

[Gaming_Bum]

No it isn't. There's Black, Blue, and White. All three units have already had hands on time.

sorry I know I'm the one that posted the black ds. But yeah the colors are enamel blue, white, and ice blue.

enamel blue is really dark blue.

[bachaka61]

www.playasia.com
www.liksang.com
www.ncsx.com - if you can find the ds lite here, I would recommend these guys.
www.yesasia.com

Are you sure it's in English? I can't find where it says that it's in English... Is someone importing it like me?

[Kaitou Tsubaki]

Go with the DS. The PSP just has stupid games and isn't worth the money.

[Siendra]

Are you sure it's in English? I can't find where it says that it's in English... Is someone importing it like me?


The DS hardware has twelve languages on board. One of which is English.

[shin_gyokakuran]

DS!!! i can't play portable games without a stylus anymore ^_^

+ i saw a friend accidentaly broke his PSP in two.

[Jon]

DS!!! i can't play portable games without a stylus anymore ^_^

+ i saw a friend accidentaly broke his PSP in two.

Are you sure that was an accident? Broke in two? Sure...an "accident."

[guyverfanboy]

I'm a PSP fan. :) Don't particularly care for 2 screens on a handheld thank you very much.

[CrossboneGundam]

I'm a PSP fan. :) Don't particularly care for 2 screens on a handheld thank you very much.

I'd take a plethora of good games over an overpriced portable media player any day.

[guyverfanboy]

I'd take a plethora of good games over an overpriced portable media player any day.

Meh. *shrugs* Different strokes for different folks as they say. ;)

[GTOSub21]

DS!!! i can't play portable games without a stylus anymore ^_^

+ i saw a friend accidentaly broke his PSP in two.

I think your friend just felt he wasted money on his psp so he broke it... must be strong to break it in half :lol:

I love the ds too the stylus is great

[Sendo Takeshi]

I'd take a plethora of good games over an overpriced portable media player any day.



QFT and QFTW.

Is it just me or is CrossboneGundam the only MAN here that knows what its all about!?

[CyberNinja5]

The DS can't play GBA games? I guess I must have one of those "special edition" DS's then huh?

Personally I think you should get a DS, right now the games on the DS are much much MUCH better than whats out on the PSP. Granted the PSP will likely come into it's own sooner or later, but for right now the DS is really the much better choice. Besides hopefully by the time the PSP becomes worth owning there will have been a price drop.

I agree with him. I own both and have definitaly liked my DS better. Each system has its strong points just if your looking for games you should get the DS. Plus im unbaised so I don't prefer one company over another im all about gaming not *****ing about why one company is worse than another.

[bachaka61]

Damn, the DS Lite is already sold out in Japan! According to some websites, it is possible that they boost the price up from $169 to $300... What the Hell... There's even a guy on ebay, in Japan, who is listing a DS Lite for a thousand bucks!! Everyone is going crazy!!! :O

[Lord Dagoth]

$300? I doubt it.

[Jon]

^^ As good as the DS is, that's ridiculous (except for the selling out part).

[Smith]

I currently own a plethora of games for the DS.
Trauma Center, Phoenix Wright, Atari Retro Classics, Mario 64DS, Mario Kart DS, Tony Hawk's American Wasteland, Metroid Prime Pinball, Sonic Rush, Animal Crossing Wild World, Advance Wars DS, Viewtiful Joe Double Trouble, Castlevania Dawn Of Sorrow, Nanostray, Resident Evil Deadly Silence, and Super Princess Peach. That's 15 games and counting. When I first played with AWDS, I was only mildly impressed with the touch screen and the dual screen concept. It was not until I got a few different games till I really fell in love with the touch screen and dual screens. Video games will never be the same again.

[Agent36]

I'm interested in both, but the DS does not have enough games for me to warrant a purchase (I prefer Mature titles generally speaking, and Resident Evil alone doesn't thrill me) and the PSP is too pricey for now.

At this rate I believe the PSP will possibly crash and burn and or go down drastically in price as the DS grabs the majority of the market. And then I might go for a PSP, mainly using it as an MP3 player and various other little things it can do. I believe you can download films onto the memory stick and play them, which sounds more then handy.

[Smith]

I don't think the PSP has any games as mature as Trauma Center.

[Powatanner]

my opinion: choose a DS
not just cuz i'm a nintendo fan,
becuz it has more games, better games
and the thrill of using a stylus for once.
PSP might have a lot of options and accesories
but no solid games

[The Realist]

I have experienced both the PSP and the Nintendo DS. My opinion in both hand held systems.

DS:
1. Touch Screen
2. Wireless
3. Entertaining Games
4. Dual Screen Compatable
5. Less Priced

PSP:
1. Multi-Media
2. Wireless
3. Good Graphics
4. Storage space
5. High Priced

DS to me has the games to keep any fan occupied while PSP has the media to do the same. If your looking to play, DS is a sure bet. But if your looking to relax and chill to do what you want, PSP is your choice. But in my opinion as a part-gamer, DS is my choice.

[Quattro Ninja]

I have a PSP and I have to say I really like it, I just hope the game library increases with good games soon.

but if you decide to get one wait until the rumors of an updated one (with aharddrive or second analog stick) are either confirmed or debunked.

[MightyDustLoop]

DS Lite is coming out. I sold the DS, and to be quite honest hated it (even being a huge Castlevania fan). But the Lite looks like an improvement. The DS, to me at least, felt clunky and very much like a toy. And I didn't like having to have the stylus at the ready making it feel less portable. But the Lite might click a little better with me, and I may be able to get used to the stylus thing. Looking forward to trying it out.

[Sendo Takeshi]

I have a PSP and I have to say I really like it, I just hope the game library increases with good games soon.

but if you decide to get one wait until the rumors of an updated one (with aharddrive or second analog stick) are either confirmed or debunked.



I have both and I can't even sit for two days straight with my PSP. I have Super Robot Wars MX for it and I love the game. But thats only ONE game I'm currently enjoying. I've purchased other games for it, but its like I know I've played this before.

Plus, there is that 4gb add-on that they released last week. But thats like the price of a new PSP. So I say fuk it. The accessories and such for the PSP are a little too pricey.

And I doubt Sony will release a second analog stick on the thing. That would just mean having to redesign the damn thing and pissing off sh!tloads of gamers.

[Siendra]

The built in HD may come about, but not the second stick (Nub...). It would leave developers with the problem of working out a control scheme that favoured both the original and the new version. And that's not something you can do when you're a good 10 million units behind your competition.

[Jinto117]

Wait for the DS lite. I have both and the PSP in simply nothing but a giant flash drive. Everyone says media this and media that but unless you fork up at least $100 for a suitably sized memory stick you won't be able to fit much on it. Anyone who says otherwise was obviously born in the nintey's or deprived of Nintendo as a child.

[Chicito]

I own both DS and PSP.

So far...DS i'm having more fun with (till DAXTER comes out).

[RayneShadowleaf]

Definately the DS cause of everything Jinto just said

[{NG}Fidel]

Is it just me or is CrossboneGundam the only MAN here that knows what its all about!?

Depends on how arrogant you are my friend. Everyone has an opinion and good games are subjective.
Either way you and I share the same opinion allthough I will word mines in a less forceful way.
The DS right now has the upper hand on Software, while the PSP has the upper hand in Media Compatibility. Still if you want a media player the PSP is still half assed and large, an Ipod would better suit most users. The DS is also sexy with the redesign (something a certain someone told me would never happen). I give a vote for the DS, but its your choice.

[MightyDustLoop]

Depends on how arrogant you are my friend. Everyone has an opinion and good games are subjective.
Either way you and I share the same opinion allthough I will word mines in a less forceful way.
The DS right now has the upper hand on Software, while the PSP has the upper hand in Media Compatibility. Still if you want a media player the PSP is still half assed and large, an Ipod would better suit most users. The DS is also sexy with the redesign (something a certain someone told me would never happen). I give a vote for the DS, but its your choice.

That's BS about the PSP being "half-arse and large". I love my Ipod, but the media format is clunky for conversion. Luckily, lots of companies are jumping on board and releasing video in the format, so no conversion is required.

But PSP's size is pretty tight given the gargantuan screen takes up so much space on the face of the unit. The thing has to be at least twice the area as the Ipod's. Not even up for comparison there. PSP wins hands down. And this is coming from a guy who owns the Ipod, but hasn't bothered buying his PSP yet (a few more quality titles and I'm there though).

[{NG}Fidel]

Actually PSP Movies are not selling well, movie companies are slowly getting out of that format. Expect more movies as SOny will put pressure on those companies. And your going to tell me the PSP is not larger than an Ipod? Or lets say an NWHD1/3/5? The PSP is bigger than most MP3 players, doesnt hold as much and the cost to but memory is higher than just getting a 30Gig Ipod (in terms of PSP cost and lets say 4Gigs).

[MightyDustLoop]

Proportional, the much larger screen is what makes the PSP so much bigger than the Ipod.

But, yeah, I agree about the PSP Movie format. There's not a lot of incentive to buying something priced similar to a DVD, when of course you can buy an actual DVD. It's not going to die per se, but most likely, only huge blockbusters will get releases, which makes sense to me. I'd only want to own a couple must haves I frequently go back to myself and only so I don't have to switch them to my memory stick so often.

If I'm converting my own media files to take on the go though, much better off with the PSP than the Ipod screen. I love my Ipod, but as bad as subs are on the PSP, you can imagine what it's like on an Ipod.

[Sendo Takeshi]

Size matters.....



The PSP's screen is the size of an iPod turned sideways.

[{NG}Fidel]

Is It? Gotta check that out.

[Sendo Takeshi]

Is It? Gotta check that out.



Damn right it is. Even I was astonished at first when I put my iPod on my PSP screen out of curiousity.

[regus 5000]

The PSP's screen is the size of an iPod turned sideways.
wow your right. * hold ipod to the screen of the psp* its almost exactly the same size. but the way i see it is if you can afford the psp then its realy worth it. most people cant though so it falls behind the cheaper ds that apeals to people with less money and parents that wouldnt think to shell out 300 bucks on a "toy" for their brat.

[Ironbear]

Bear with me. I'm the engineer of long posts... If you just wan't my oppinion, follow the bolded, thick words.

Price can't be used to determine anything. Especially these days...

Well, in my oppinion, PSP has better multimedia properties, as DS has none, but I, for one, wouldn't wan't to buy again and watch my favourite movies on a small screen, when I can go home or take the DVD with me. Plus, Futurama seasons 1-4 would be pretty damn expensive on PSP, if they exist.

But here's the lowdown, without preferences... *glares at regus*


PSP is a nicely powered & strong handheld, that sticks to the basics. Conventional gaming and decent hardware. Not much innovation, although a couple of the games were cool. I didn't find the "stick" first at all, and it's feel could be a little more accurate in small, precicion movements, but atleast there is a "stick" on the console. The screen is very clear and bright, although the amount of dead pixels overall in PSP's is a little worrying.
I was pretty bothered about the +/- volume control of PSP. I've never like "stepping" over to the next sound level.
I've seen a couple of interesting games, but their not that innovative.

DS can be summed up in one word: innovation.
Not as much power as PSP, or multimedia, but tons of interesting, different and even totally new kind of games.
Unique structure offers a lot of innovation for game makers. Many of the games I've played feel a lot more fresh, than a new FPS, no matter what features it has.
Can also play Game Boy Advance games, so you get three consoles in one, kind of. Advance was able to play GB and GB Color games, so even more, if you wan't to count them.
Some must-have games are already running out. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney and Trauma Center: Under the Knife may be hard to come by already. If virtual pets is your thing, you have Nintendogs waiting for you. Atleast they don't drool and shed, although their unbearably cute.


Comparing the two is like comparing Half-Life 2 and Spore, I if I may be given the liberty. Try to remember, that I know pretty little about HL2, as I've been sick of FPS-games for a couple of years...
HL2 is an ultracool-looking FPS, with some new features and pretty much everything has been enhanced from previous FPS' a couple of times.
Spore is something new and very interesting, that gives you a lot more freedom to play the way you want. The game is also much more flexibile than even most Maxis games.

So the war between PSP and DS is all about preferrence. Do you wan't cool or exiting? It's youre choice. Forget the talk about "better" hardware. It's the games that make a console. And only you decide, what kind of games you like.

I've been very happy with DS and it's innovative, fresh games. I have yet to see a PSP title to challenge almost any DS title in innovation of gameplay. PSP is just more conventional.

[Zash]

Go with PSP. You got an amazing screen. The games are like more for younger kids for the DS. When I was decided which one to buy, I compared the games of the PSP and DS, and I saw better graphics on the DS side, and better games. The fact that DS has 2 screens is just something Nintendo uses in order to sell the game console. With that touch screen, it usally gets scratched up bad because of the touch pen...ewww..Also, for the DS, you gotta buy the WiFi. The PSP already has the WiFi built into it and mostly every single game can be played online

[Ironbear]

Fanboy alert...

The "amazing" PSP screen needs to have a policy for dead pixel returns... Feh...

DS doesn't need Wifi. It's just to play with people not in your vicinity. I've also seen touch-screen replacement kits somewhere, I think. And the two screens are used pretty nicely in most games. You have to go a separate inventory screen on the PSP, but on the DS, you just need to use the touch screen for that...
And you don't have use the stylus ( the touch pen ) at all. There are replacements and it IS a touch screen. My touch screen is somewhat scratched, but it doesn't show during nor has it affected gameplay.

Graphics mean nothing. Phoenix Wright looks way better'n most 3D games these days, in my oppinion. I've seen enough fancy effects and gimmicks.

Give me characters full of personality, not polygons!

[Solid_Snake]

PSP will be having MGS: Portable Ops, and Silent Hill: Origins. Go for it.

[Ironbear]

More of the same old...

This is still the basic lowdown:

PSP is more serious.
DS is more fun.

And DS isn't a "kiddie" product, like all other Nintendo products...

[Rahxephon91]

Yeah its not kiddie.
http://gametrailers.com/umwatcher.php?id=3730

[VidelCoolGirl]

Well, I would say get both, Like I did. But I'd actually go for the DS first, and then a PSP. DS has a lot more fun games.

[Zash]

Fanboy alert...

The "amazing" PSP screen needs to have a policy for dead pixel returns... Feh...

Lol I got 3 year warranty on my PSP which cost me about $50. It covers dead pixels, damage to the system, anything. I could throw it at a car and get it replaced lol.

[Solid_Snake]

More of the same old...

This is still the basic lowdown:

PSP is more serious.
DS is more fun.

And DS isn't a "kiddie" product, like all other Nintendo products...

What's the "same old" exactly?

[Ironbear]

Same genres, with just some new gameplay features.

[Professor Funk]

Go with the PSP. It has shooters on it and allows for competitive gameplay using wifi.

[flammie]

If you are looking for FPS on the DS, you could play Metroid Prime Hunters. It has a decent control scheme compared to the terrible controls of FPS on the PSP.

[Solid_Snake]

Same genres, with just some new gameplay features.
Oh jeeze, if you're refering to Silent Hill and MGS: PO.

No... Just no.

[Ironbear]

I don't wan't FPS's! I'm tired of them! The only difference these days are how fancy graphics engine they use and what environment they are played in.

Atleast Phoenix Wright is kinda like an interactive anime from a subject rarely handled in games in a unique package: action-courtroom drama.

[Solid_Snake]

But Silent Hill and MGS aren't FPS.... I'm confused.

[Gaming_Bum]

Go with the PSP. It has shooters on it and allows for competitive gameplay using wifi.


I have to say go with ds if you want shooters. Though DS only has one good first person shooter, it controls ten times better than any shooter the psp can do. Actually the touch screen for fps, is similar to a mouse and keyboard, it might take a while to get use to, but its very accurate. Metroid Prime hunters proves that. And is also uses wifi. 1 analog stick for shooters doesn't cut it anymroe, thats was ok in the n64 days, but not anymore.

oh and auto aim, I wouldn't say is very competitive.

[brolylssj95]

again psp not to dock nintendo but the ds is well a gba with fancy features. i had a gba but got rid of it to get my psp. it got old after a while of playing the same old games and getting new ones were not on the top of my list. psp brings a new spice to the handheld world and i think sony will beat nintedo in this for sure. sure the ds has metroid and resident evil and dbz ssw2 and the new pokemon but its all repetative. Time for something new and sony has succeded

[senseinobaka]

psp brings a new spice to the handheld world and i think sony will beat nintedo in this for sure.

This is being said desptie the fact that the DS has embarassed PSP worldwide. It's sales are up to 16Mil and software up to 60Mil and PSP...no where near.

I just recently sold my PSP because it sat on my shelf for months. And i'm contemplating a DS lite hard. Better softwar.
-New Super Mario
-Sudoko
-Brain Age
-Mario 3 on 3 hoops, very competitive wifi play
-Metriod
-Final Fantasy 3
-Children of Mana
-Lunar Nights
-and Dragon Quest

yum yum yum

[u_nick]

PSP vs DS

I hear many good things about the DS, but i dont own one. simply no games that interest me. That new Mario game looks pretty sweet though.

I have a PSP, and love every bit of it. i look forward to its PS3 interactivity.

[Jae Hoon]

How has the DS embarrassed PSP?

Sony said from the beginning they werent trying to compete with the DS. The DS is for playing while the PSP is for an entertainment. Each one does what it is supposed to, the PSP has more then made its fair share of money.

It is amazing what people try to concoct to try to justify certain things.

[MightyDustLoop]

Imagine if noone ever dethroned Nintendo in the console market. Well, that's what the portable market is like. If you come out about 15 years into Nintendo dominance, and you sell around half as many systems and have some decent games, you're doing pretty well.

It's sad that top tier titles on the PSP are a lot more sporadic, but the hardware still blows my mind. I hated my DS hardware to the point where I couldn't get into the software as much as I should've. The Lite may very well fix that, but that's not even an option at the current point.

I'm not too stubborn to admit that the DS has more quality software overall, but it's the same case with the PS2, and there are people that still validate buying and genuinely enjoy other consoles over the PS2. I'm sure there are a number of people out there better off with a PSP.

Check out the software lists for both, see which one is more your type, check out a kiosk of both pieces of hardware at a store to get a bit of a feel for them, and make a decision. Done deal.

[Chicito]

If you want decent games (until Square decides to come out with Final Fantasy games for PSP) go with the DS.

If you want a system that is great for traveling (plays movies, internet browsing, MP3 player, etc) but the games are kinda lousy. Go with PSP.

[Professor Funk]

I have to say go with ds if you want shooters. Though DS only has one good first person shooter, it controls ten times better than any shooter the psp can do. Actually the touch screen for fps, is similar to a mouse and keyboard, it might take a while to get use to, but its very accurate. Metroid Prime hunters proves that. And is also uses wifi. 1 analog stick for shooters doesn't cut it anymroe, thats was ok in the n64 days, but not anymore.

oh and auto aim, I wouldn't say is very competitive.

From my expierence playing online their are 100's maybe thousands of players who do not know how to use auto aim correctly. So you can still have good players and bad players, making for competitive gameplay.

[Mercenary]

Is this topic serious? Someone would actually consider a PSP when they could get a DS?

Wow...

[senseinobaka]

It's not that stupid. I love nintendo, but when I had to chose I bought a PSP. Why? Simply because as much as i love nintendo... i hate monopolies more. Nintendo owns more then 95% of the handheld market, thats just terrible, so I went and supported emmerging competition.

[Professor Funk]

Is this topic serious? Someone would actually consider a PSP when they could get a DS?

Wow...

Well I know I do not want a DS. I am fine with my PSP.

[Mercenary]

It's not that stupid. I love nintendo, but when I had to chose I bought a PSP. Why? Simply because as much as i love nintendo... i hate monopolies more. Nintendo owns more then 95% of the handheld market, thats just terrible, so I went and supported emmerging competition.
So you bought a product from someone who owns 80% of the console market instead so that they may one day own 80% of the handheld market? Sounds about right.

Well I know I do not want a DS. I am fine with my PSP.

You're in a minority.

[Professor Funk]

You're in a minority.

lol.... That maybe so but I'm a proud minority.

^^^ I really dislike Nintendo so I hope Sony one day controls the Handheld market. Nintendo really bores me along with their cover characters. I truly hope Nintendo is the next Sega...

[senseinobaka]

So you bought a product from someone who owns 80% of the console market instead so that they may one day own 80% of the handheld market? Sounds about right.


And vice versa I bought a console form someone who owns 95% of the handheld market that way someday they may own a larger share of the console market.

Interesting side note - i was much happer with my GCN purchase then I was with my PSP, i didnt have to sell my GCN because it sat unused for months at a time.

[Old Ape Face]

Sp owns them both.


amen to that brother

[Ironbear]

It's not that stupid. I love nintendo, but when I had to chose I bought a PSP. Why? Simply because as much as i love nintendo... i hate monopolies more. Nintendo owns more then 95% of the handheld market, thats just terrible, so I went and supported emmerging competition.again psp not to dock nintendo but the ds is well a gba with fancy features. i had a gba but got rid of it to get my psp. it got old after a while of playing the same old games and getting new ones were not on the top of my list. psp brings a new spice to the handheld world and i think sony will beat nintedo in this for sure. sure the ds has metroid and resident evil and dbz ssw2 and the new pokemon but its all repetative. Time for something new and sony has succededPlease do not tell me that you seriously think like this...? :blink:

What "new" does the PSP offer? Decent hardware and enough multimedia to share for anyone... What's new, actually?
Aren't the touch-screen and innovative, totally new kind of games a bit more "new" than yet another cool FPs'?


Give me PSP's Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney equilevent or shut up.

[brolylssj95]

the fps ing for psp sucks hands down but racing and fighting games. its a whole new game and sony continues to sell. do you see used psps lying around at game stores? no. the ds? YES!!! point playing and simple the psp is new so people are more willing to get it because of the ds is nintendo. nintendo owns the handheld end of things why not give sony handheld world and let nintendo take over the console world with the wii

[Ironbear]

Sorry, but I have some trouble following you, bro.

Your oppinion stinks of "biased" to high heavens. I dislike the PSP because I'm pretty much tired of non-innovative ( read: FPS ) games.
The genre needs something fresh badly. Not just new graphics and "minor" gameplay features. I mean complete overhauling of the players style to interact with his/her environment.

[Siendra]

the fps ing for psp sucks hands down but racing and fighting games. its a whole new game and sony continues to sell. do you see used psps lying around at game stores? no. the ds? YES!!! point playing and simple the psp is new so people are more willing to get it because of the ds is nintendo. nintendo owns the handheld end of things why not give sony handheld world and let nintendo take over the console world with the wii

Actually, I do. My local EB has a massive stack of both. And you seem to be entirely unaware that the DS is approaching a sell-through of 3 units to 1 on the PSP.

Why not give SCE the handheld market? Probably becuase they produced an over expensive, under refined peice of hardware that developers legitametly dislike and has a large number of multi-media capabilities that aren't being used. Even SCE isn't putting a huge amount of support behind the PSP.

[Gray]

the fps ing for psp sucks hands down but racing and fighting games. its a whole new game and sony continues to sell. do you see used psps lying around at game stores? no. the ds? YES!!! point playing and simple the psp is new so people are more willing to get it because of the ds is nintendo. nintendo owns the handheld end of things why not give sony handheld world and let nintendo take over the console world with the wii

Are you 6? Hell, your talking about a console i support, and i still dont have any idea what fps-ing means. Just shut up. You make no sense, and have no supportive information.


And this is where I fully agree with Siendra. Sony has Z E R O support for any of thier consoles. I know 2 that died just because they didn't back it up, and the same is for the PSP.

[Professor Funk]

Are you 6? Hell, your talking about a console i support, and i still dont have any idea what fps-ing means. Just shut up. You make no sense, and have no supportive information.


And this is where I fully agree with Siendra. Sony has Z E R O support for any of thier consoles. I know 2 that died just because they didn't back it up, and the same is for the PSP.

Whoooo.... Someone is a bit angry. Calm down a little you might hurt the guys feelings...

[Gray]

Whoooo.... Someone is a bit angry. Calm down a little you might hurt the guys feelings...

Hmm, your right.... Maybe I should offer him some candy?

[Professor Funk]

Hmm, your right.... Maybe I should offer him some candy?

Maybe you should take him to the candy shop... Hmmmmmm JK JK

[Gaming_Bum]

It's not that stupid. I love nintendo, but when I had to chose I bought a PSP. Why? Simply because as much as i love nintendo... i hate monopolies more. Nintendo owns more then 95% of the handheld market, thats just terrible, so I went and supported emmerging competition.


so you want sony to rule both console and handhelds? Anyone see anything wrong with this picture?

the fps ing for psp sucks hands down but racing and fighting games. its a whole new game and sony continues to sell. do you see used psps lying around at game stores? no. the ds? YES!!! point playing and simple the psp is new so people are more willing to get it because of the ds is nintendo. nintendo owns the handheld end of things why not give sony handheld world and let nintendo take over the console world with the wii



Actually DS is selling more than the psp overall. In america they're neck in neck, gba is kicking their ***** in america. I don't know why the gba is still selling so damn good! Worldwide DS is destroying the psp.


and someone said something about psp adding some spice to the handheld industry. um...I don't know how, considering the psp isn't really doing anything innovating. Ds on the other hand is coming up with new genre of games that are unable to be made on consoles or any other handheld.

[Gray]

^ And that new Genre would be?

[Gaming_Bum]

Honestly I wouldn't know the names of the genres. but I can tell you games that I would say are apart of a new genre.


kirby canvas curse
trauma center
yoshi touch n go


then you have games that totally redo old genres. Like nintendogs and meteos.

[Gray]

Well, unless Touchscreen is some kind of Genre, I have no idea where your going with this.

[Siendra]

^ And that new Genre would be?

Surgical-simulation, as an example.

And Elektroplankton alone created a genre.

[Gaming_Bum]

All I'm saying is you're getting new types of games on the Ds, that can't be done on a console. Like kirby canvas curse. Good luck doing that on a console. Maybe the wii will be able to do it, but irght now no other console can do it. someone said psp is spicing things up, But all those games can be done on consoles.

[Gray]

All I'm saying is you're getting new types of games on the Ds, that can't be done on a console. Like kirby canvas curse. Good luck doing that on a console. Maybe the wii will be able to do it, but irght now no other console can do it. someone said psp is spicing things up, But all those games can be done on consoles.

Just take out the touchscreen, but i have never played it, so i really have no idea what it does. and, if you wanna go there, you can do the same with the 10 other handhelds nintendo made. same with any handheld, and nintendo is proving it by adding the download feature, although ill stick to emulators my self.

[Gaming_Bum]

Just take out the touchscreen, but i have never played it, so i really have no idea what it does. and, if you wanna go there, you can do the same with the 10 other handhelds nintendo made. same with any handheld, and nintendo is proving it by adding the download feature, although ill stick to emulators my self.

why tak out the touch screen?


When the gameboy was release, sure those thing games could be made on the nes. But it was a portable console, that was amazing back in the days. But things evolved since then and just being portable just won't cut it anymore. GBA was offering 2d games, when consoles abandon 2d. So in order to get your 2d fix, you would have to have a gba. Now the Ds is taking things a step further, they're making totally different genres, while still giving us 2d games, and even some normal 3d ones as well.

while the psp is giving us ps2 like graphics on a handheld, but its portable. So why should I get a psp, its like buying another console! I already have all 3 major consoles, why must I buy another one? I can understand if you're going to travel a lot. portability is all the psp offers. Ds offers that and more.

[Gray]

why tak out the touch screen?


When the gameboy was release, sure those thing games could be made on the nes. But it was a portable console, that was amazing back in the days. But things evolved since then and just being portable just won't cut it anymore. GBA was offering 2d games, when consoles abandon 2d. So in order to get your 2d fix, you would have to have a gba. Now the Ds is taking things a step further, they're making totally different genres, while still giving us 2d games, and even some normal 3d ones as well.

while the psp is giving us ps2 like graphics on a handheld, but its portable. So why should I get a psp, its like buying another console! I already have all 3 major consoles, why must I buy another one? I can understand if you're going to travel a lot. portability is all the psp offers. Ds offers that and more.

Thats why I don't bother with any portable handhelds. I have no use for them. Whenever I go on any trip, im most likely the person driving, so i have no use there, and if i really need to play something that badly, ill hook up my PS2 in the hotel.

[Gaming_Bum]

Thats why I don't bother with any portable handhelds. I have no use for them. Whenever I go on any trip, im most likely the person driving, so i have no use there, and if i really need to play something that badly, ill hook up my PS2 in the hotel.

Exactly, thats why I like the ds so much. I can't get games like trauma center on my ps2 or gamecube. So my ds is very useful, plus the ds gives me my fix for 2d games.

The psp isn't totally useless, it does have some good games. But I just always think to myself, why didn't they just make this on the ps2, so I wouldn't have to buy a psp.

but yeah I totally understand why you stray away from portable games. the ps2 alone has enough games.

[Gray]

Exactly, thats why I like the ds so much. I can't get games like trauma center on my ps2 or gamecube. So my ds is very useful, plus the ds gives me my fix for 2d games.

The psp isn't totally useless, it does have some good games. But I just always think to myself, why didn't they just make this on the ps2, so I wouldn't have to buy a psp.

but yeah I totally understand why you stray away from portable games. the ps2 alone has enough games.

The PS2 has more games than I'll ever need, and I keep about 20 on my Hard Drive, so thas about As protable as need. They even have the feature now BUILT IN to the PSP where you can play your PS2 on it.

[Ironbear]

Just take out the touchscreen, but i have never played it, so i really have no idea what it does. and, if you wanna go there, you can do the same with the 10 other handhelds nintendo made. same with any handheld, and nintendo is proving it by adding the download feature, although ill stick to emulators my self.Yes, you can do it, but Nintendo was the first one to actually gather up the courage and try something this weird.
And if you even don't know, what the touch-screen is, don't start ditching it right away. Your picking up some unknown, oddly-coloured fruit-like plant and putting it into your mouth, figuratively speaking.

New genres? Surgeon-simulation, actual aiming puzzles and action-courtroom drama. There aren't really that many new genres on DS, but how many totally new genres are on the PSP? I got a negative number, last time I checked. Atleast the DS has something new in it's games...


But in the end, this whole PSP against DS is about oppinion. Neither console is better than the other, unless we start seeing a dramatic drop in game quality on the other ( take no sides, people! ) and a huge increase in the quality of the others games.

You can't say, that the other is "better" than the other, before you define what you mean by "better".

[Rahxephon91]

None of those gernes you listed are new. Hell Phoenix Wright was on the GBA first dude. The DS one is not the first game, more like the 4th.

http://gameboy.ign.com/objects/606/606186.html

[Gaming_Bum]

None of those gernes you listed are new. Hell Phoenix Wright was on the GBA first dude. The DS one is not the first game, more like the 4th.

http://gameboy.ign.com/objects/606/606186.html

Mind explaining to me how kirby canvas curse and trauma center are not in a new genre of gaming?

[Rahxephon91]

Mind explaining to me how kirby canvas curse and trauma center are not in a new genre of gaming?
Kirby is a platformer(or action game as IGN says it) and ever heard of the game Operation?

[Professor Funk]

Kirby is a platformer and ever heard of the game Operation?

Ha, I was thinking the samething.

[Gaming_Bum]

Kirby is a platformer and ever heard of the game Operation?


http://oaktreeent.com/misc/web_photos/Games/Operation_Game_1965_Milton-Bradley_4545_web.jpg

are you talking about that operation? lol because thats hardly a surgical simulation. but if there is another video game name operation, got any pics? what console is it on? is it on the pc?


As for kirby, a platformer? have you played the game?

[Rahxephon91]

http://oaktreeent.com/misc/web_photos/Games/Operation_Game_1965_Milton-Bradley_4545_web.jpg

are you talking about that operation? lol because thats hardly a surgical simulation. but if there is another video game name operation, got any pics? what console is it on? is it on the pc?


As for kirby, a platformer? have you played the game?
Yes that Operation, its not a realistic simulation game but if you wana consider Turma Center one then why not the board game.

Yes Kirby is a platfromer with inovative features. Seriously people all these DS games have inovative things but they are not genres on to themself.

[Gaming_Bum]

Yeah sure trauma center isn't as the realest game out there. But it does try to have a certain level of realisml, lol its probably even harder than real surgery at times. While operation doesn't really even attempt to have any realism to it at all. thats why one is a sim, and one is not.


As for kirby


here is a definition of platform game

Platform game, or platformer, is a video game genre characterized by the character having to climb up and down, or jump from and to, platforms and ledges, while fighting enemies and collecting objects required to complete the game.



The only thing kirby has in common with a platform game is fighting enemies and collecting objects. but that hardly makes it a platform game.

[Rahxephon91]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/Rahxephon91/kirby-canvas-curse-2005051500190617.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/Rahxephon91/new-super-mario-bros-20060504024955.jpg

From IGN
Kirby's story on DS begins when he encounters a sorceress who changes the world into a painting. She then transforms Kriby into a ball and he sets off on an adventure to return both himself and the world to normal. You make use of a Magic Paintbrush, which the sorceress left behind, to help Kirby on his adventure. The Magic Paintbrush (or, in the real world, the NDS touch pen), is used to draw rainbow-colored lines on-the screen, guiding Kirby through levels of play. While levels feature pre-made platforms and areas of the ground upon which Kirby can walk, you'll have to draw your own platforms to get Kirby past obstacles like chasms and spikes. You're free to draw lines however you choose, with screenshots showing loops, platforms, slopes. Scribbles eventually disappear, so you'll need to keep on your toes.

Pink is in, as Nintendo produces a stunning DS platformer using nothing but the sense of touch.

[Gaming_Bum]

Ign can call pokemon pinball a fps, but that doesn't mean its an fps. Because Ign says so, doesn't make it right.


For god sake, kirby doesn't even really jump in the game. WHAT KIND OF PLATFORM GAME DOESN'T HAVE JUMPING. Sure you can throw kirby off of a ramp, but thats pretty much it.


Instead of jumping from platform to platform, you draw a path for kirby. thats not much of a platforming game.

[Rahxephon91]

Its a platfromer with a uniqe control dude. Insted of jumping you use the stylus. What would you call the game?

[Gaming_Bum]

Its a platfromer with a uniqe control dude. Insted of jumping you use the stylus. What would you call the game?


I don't know what I would call a game, where you create a path for a ball, by drawing lines on the screen. But its not like any other platform game I've played, I never played a platform game where you don't jump.


a 2d platform game is pretty much a game where you walk on a path, jump over holes and obstacles, and climb up things to get the end of a level.

While kirby, instead of walking a path, you draw the path.

[Roxxas]

You would call it an inovative platformer. Because well your still trying to get to the next platform. This game is not a new genre.

[Gaming_Bum]

well what is a platform game to you guys?

[Sendo Takeshi]

well what is a platform game to you guys?



Old school 2D Megaman. There is NOTHING else that can define platforming(2D at least) as well as Megaman. And the only game that comes close to me is Gunstar Heroes.

And as for 3D platforming, theres a sh!tload of them. Crash Bandicoot, Sly Cooper, Ratchet and Clank, and Mario Sunshine.

[Gaming_Bum]

Old school 2D Megaman. There is NOTHING else that can define platforming(2D at least) as well as Megaman. And the only game that comes close to me is Gunstar Heroes.

And as for 3D platforming, theres a sh!tload of them. Crash Bandicoot, Sly Cooper, Ratchet and Clank, and Mario Sunshine.


lol I meant, what is your definition for a platform game?

and I want to play megaman all of a sudden