What if?

[TheDemonSlayer]

What if various characters from the many different Gundam anime, some how came together, who would likely end up teaming up together? Who would end up fighting each other, and in the end, which pilots and which Gundams would eventually come out on top? Discuss...

[KamuiX1999]

I know I'm too old to be knowing this, but do you mean like in one of the recent Power Ranger seasons, where they had all the red rangers from all the seasons up til that one fight together? I think there were like 10 red rangers.

I bet that would be a fanboy's dream. Having Amuro, Garrod Ran, and Domon team up against Heero, Kira, and Kamille. The next thing you'd see would be the planets being destroyed from the massive firepower being used in the fight.

[Shao]

Well keeping all the elements of the different gundam series and putting it all in one in terns of MS battles, there will be some unbalance fights but it will be interesting.

[birdcat]

OR, Amuro, Domon, Heero, Kira, Kamille, Shiro, and others vs a new more evolved Devil Gundam?

[Vaikyuko]

OR, Amuro, Domon, Heero, Kira, Kamille, Shiro, and others vs a new more evolved Devil Gundam?

No. The Devil Gundam is cool, but it would be easily killed off in just a few minutes of the fight (if the Shining Finger/God Finger can so easily wipe it out, think about it). A better idea would be to have an alternate reality war story in which several of them get ported to the same dimension -- a little like SRW, I suppose. Ensue each of them joining different factions and fighting, yada yada yada.

[Solid-Snake]

I think thats what the SRW games are for.

I know I'm too old to be knowing this, but do you mean like in one of the recent Power Ranger seasons, where they had all the red rangers from all the seasons up til that one fight together? I think there were like 10 red rangers.

NO WAI! I need to check that out! Im aswell way past the age for Power Rangers, but that sounds awsome.

[Amuro]

That was maybe 4 years ago.. I remember that..

"Forever Red" was the title during the Wild Force season.

Although I think you should also check out the original Japanese ZyuRanger (which was adapted into the 1st season of MMPR.. TV Nihon has subbed it..)

[Soaker87]

That would be quite fun to watch. It could make a good comedy, actually.

[TheDemonSlayer]

Yeah there would definitely be some unfare duels, but it would be interesting to see. And knowing anime, I'm sure the weaker gundams would upgrade some how. But I would love to see God Gundam(Burning Gundam) vs. Wing Zero, now that would be one hell of a fight...

[kureshii]

Yeah there would definitely be some unfare duels, but it would be interesting to see. And knowing anime, I'm sure the weaker gundams would upgrade some how. But I would love to see God Gundam(Burning Gundam) vs. Wing Zero, now that would be one hell of a fight...

Of course, I'm assuming you mean powerful ranged weapons not allowed. W0C's gun spoils a good one-on-one fight.

I don't see how they can slot the G Gundam universe in there nicely with the rest of the UC and AC Gundams, but it's worth a try.

I thought they had games exploring this already? Like Battle Master I & II? (Though lots of models from quite a few series were unaccounted for)

[TheDemonSlayer]

Well I know that alot of the other gundam series have more powerful weapons used for war, but that doesn't count G Gundam out though. Now maybe you haven't seen any of G Gundam, because if you had then you would know that Burning Gundams special techniques can easily handle such weapons. As a matter of fact, G Gundam pilots would have the upper hand, thanks to the mobile trace system...

[kureshii]

I've finished G Gundam, actually.

If you've watched the opening portions of Wing, and maybe Endless Waltz as well you'd notice that Wing/Wing Zero's gun actually has bloody long range, much longer than Shining Gundam can reach in a single Shining Finger leap. Of course, I'm not going to ponder God Gundam's Undefeatable East God Finger technique here, because I have no visual evidence of its actual range, and whether it exceeds that of W0C's buster gun. At short range I have no doubt Shining Finger/Exploding Finger would make short work of most projectile weapos.

I do believe I've been misinterpreted with regards to fitting in G Gundam with UC and AU; I was of the impression that the G Gundam MS would be somewhat advantaged due to the improbable physics they enjoy. Multi-punches/kicks, ultimate moves that no one would bother trying to explain in real-word terms. So, yes, I do agree that in ground battles G Gundam suits would be rather advantaged, but I can't say the same for aerial/space battles, since I haven't seen the G Gundam suits showing any predilection towards more suitable forms of combat in space.

In a UC vs AU battle, I very much doubt they would be fighting gigantic space tentacles, beam weapons and rockets are more likely to be the norm, and so far there's no evidence that their battle style would be effective against that.

[TheDemonSlayer]

I've finished G Gundam, actually.

If you've watched the opening portions of Wing, and maybe Endless Waltz as well you'd notice that Wing/Wing Zero's gun actually has bloody long range, much longer than Shining Gundam can reach in a single Shining Finger leap. Of course, I'm not going to ponder God Gundam's Undefeatable East God Finger technique here, because I have no visual evidence of its actual range, and whether it exceeds that of W0C's buster gun. At short range I have no doubt Shining Finger/Exploding Finger would make short work of most projectile weapos.

I do believe I've been misinterpreted with regards to fitting in G Gundam with UC and AU; I was of the impression that the G Gundam MS would be somewhat advantaged due to the improbable physics they enjoy. Multi-punches/kicks, ultimate moves that no one would bother trying to explain in real-word terms. So, yes, I do agree that in ground battles G Gundam suits would be rather advantaged, but I can't say the same for aerial/space battles, since I haven't seen the G Gundam suits showing any predilection towards more suitable forms of combat in space.

In a UC vs AU battle, I very much doubt they would be fighting gigantic space tentacles, beam weapons are rockets are more likely to be the norm, and so far there's no evidence that their battle style would be effective against that.
Ok I can definitely see your point there, the concept of an actual war is void as well for the Gundam Fight participants. But I'm sure that they would also have to adapt to space combat, just as much as some of the others would have to consider there close combat strength. But either way, a battle between the two would eventually end up as a close combat beam saber showdown, unless Heero made quick work of keeping distance with the buster rifle, but then that's not really his style...

[kureshii]

It'd be interesting to see the G Gundam suits duke it out in space, considering their general lack of truly long-range weapons. Most of them should do fine at medium range though.

Take away W0C's buster gun and he would have to get in close; the buster gun is his only ranged weapon, vulcans not included. And yeah, that would be a hot battle, though I have no doubt God Gundam would prove victor in the end, simply by virtue of his superior close combat ability. I mean, c'mon, W0C is armed only with a beam saber, dude.

[mr44mag]

Let's not forget just how proficient the pilot of Zero is a beam saber. The suit may be severally lacking in arms but Heero is quite good with the equipment he has.

Domon however, is an insane ridiculous martial artist that makes Neo look like he's playing fair. In ground it wouldn't surprise me if he could take down the Wing Zero without a mobile suit.

[germanturkey]

forever red eh... goes off and looks for a download link

i used to love that show. i watched it up through the second space ranger arc

[shezaei_neko]

I'd like to see how all pilots make one team to bash Shinn...... :cheers:
That'd be awesome!!
I wonder who'd win between Cagalli and Noin??

[MagicianCamille]

Shin kicks ***. You suck.

[TheDemonSlayer]

Yeah alot of interesting battles and alliances would probably take place, and I'm sure that their would be some glorious upgrades to all the mech's...

[kureshii]

Let's not forget just how proficient the pilot of Zero is a beam saber. The suit may be severally lacking in arms but Heero is quite good with the equipment he has.Agreed. Which is why it would be one hell of a battle. But there is no doubt that he would fall at the end.

Domon however, is an insane ridiculous martial artist that makes Neo look like he's playing fair. In ground it wouldn't surprise me if he could take down the Wing Zero without a mobile suit.Agreed on the first count, but don't think he can do much against MS without a suit himself. I think you're thinking of Master Asia here... against foot soldier models he probably could, but not against W0.

[TheDemonSlayer]

Well you might just be right there, but hey we could always safely assume that he would coninue training, but either way your right. The battle would definitely be between two gundam pilots in their gundams...

[Mazinkaiser]

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/5184/domon5ah.jpg

[kureshii]

Cool, cool! But not quite the same as Master Asia whipping around the Death Army with... ribbons. Yeah, um, pink ribbons.

[mr44mag]

Cool, cool! But not quite the same as Master Asia whipping around the Death Army with... ribbons. Yeah, um, pink ribbons.
Didn't Master Asia say in Hong Kong that Domon had grown stronger than himself? I think if he wanted to do that weird stuff like Master Asia, he probably would. I just want someone to explain to me how its possible to spin a sash into a solid bo.

[kureshii]

How it's possible? Attribute it to G Gundam physics.

Domon growing stronger than M.A. is not the same as Domon acquiring M.A's abilities. He may have the all-powerful God Finger, but he isn't likely to master the art of fighting with pink ribbons for the next few decades.

[Matsu'o Tsurayaba]

I think a major battle would be Heero and Amuro Vs Char and Zechs.Frau Bau and Relina could be watching from a safe distance.

[TheDemonSlayer]

I think a major battle would be Heero and Amuro Vs Char and Zechs.Frau Bau and Relina could be watching from a safe distance.
Yeah I was thinking of a similiar fight, and it's a likely one as well.

[ShadowSonic]

I remeber one imaginary fight was between Camille and Heero, it ended with both of them overbdosing on their suits brainwave systems and going into "foam at the mouth" comas...

[kureshii]

Ooh, getting into tag team battles now, aren't we? *drools from corner of mouth*

[TheDemonSlayer]

Yeah that's a good possibility as well...:lol:

[CrossboneGundam]

I remeber one imaginary fight was between Camille and Heero, it ended with both of them overbdosing on their suits brainwave systems and going into "foam at the mouth" comas...

Except Camille became a veggie because of Scirocco, it had nothing to do with his own Biosensor. And the Biosensor is a lot different from Zero System, both in practice and purpose. The Biosensor draws power from the NT pilot and gives it to the MS, as seen with Camille's Hyper Beam Saber. Zero System is simply tactical information and probabilities beamed into the pilot's head, which is more like the Bio-Computer from F91, but still very different.

[TheDemonSlayer]

Except Camille became a veggie because of Scirocco, it had nothing to do with his own Biosensor. And the Biosensor is a lot different from Zero System, both in practice and purpose. The Biosensor draws power from the NT pilot and gives it to the MS, as seen with Camille's Hyper Beam Saber. Zero System is simply tactical information and probabilities beamed into the pilot's head, which is more like the Bio-Computer from F91, but still very different.
Yeah that's pretty much it...

[ShadowSonic]

My understanding of the Zero system is that it's simply a very advanced Battle computer. It absorbs all available data on the enemy, the user and the user's mecha and then gives a prediction of what will most likely happen. It also links the pilot's brainwaves right into the suits control system (kinda like the YF-22 from Macross Plus), but all that data flying through the dude's brain usually causes mental instability until the Pilot develops sufficient self-discipline and control (Heero, Zechs and Quatre).

[Vaikyuko]

You're correct on everything but the last part -- it doesn't allow linkage so the pilot controls the MS better, it simply powerdumps all the info into the pilot's brain. That would effectively make them a vegetable or insane, unless they have the ability to use the Zero System.

[ShadowSonic]

I thought they talked about how it increased reaction time and fighting prowess and stuff. And on that old gundamproject site it was referred to as a "brainwave interface control system" so I assumed interfacing one's brainwaves right with the suits controls was part of it...

[TheDemonSlayer]

You're correct on everything but the last part -- it doesn't allow linkage so the pilot controls the MS better, it simply powerdumps all the info into the pilot's brain. That would effectively make them a vegetable or insane, unless they have the ability to use the Zero System.
Yeah it takes an exeptional pilot to master the zero system, and as we saw, even Heero and Zechs had to get used to it. It's a powerful system and if the wrong person tries to play with it, they will most likely go insane and keep killing until nothing is left..

[bancho31]

how about this video (http://www.youtube.com/w/Master-Asia-vs-Gundam-Wing-Boys?v=KJc41kqG3G4&search=wing%20vs%20master%20asia)

[TheDemonSlayer]

Wow thanks for the link man...

[bancho31]

the fight dont have a conclusion, who do you think wins??

[TheDemonSlayer]

Well unfortunately the video refuses to play on my computer. Well it does, but like 5 seconds at a time, so maybe I'll just wait next time. But probably Master Asia man...:lol:

[TheDemonSlayer]

Ok I've seen it, and it was crazy! So what other versus matches can you think of?

[TheDemonSlayer]

Anyone else?

[Techrobo]

This would be interesting, but I think it would be even better if they all had to fight in identical MS-06F Zaku IIs. No uber-powerful god-weapons, it would all come down to basic combat techniques and tactics.

[TheDemonSlayer]

Yes this would prove to be interesting as well...

[Vk1223]

I see...major pwnage of Damon is in there, he'll make almost every1 look like a pansy, lol.

[TheDemonSlayer]

Yeah he is pretty crazy..:lol:

[TheDemonSlayer]

So anyone have any worth while match up's?