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ACE2001
August 25th, 2005, 06:48 PM
Finally!!!!!! The new series of Bible Black episode 4 will be release on October 25, 2005!!! Mark your calendars fellas!!! This bit of news made my day, I almost want to cry!!! ^_^

Not be confused with Bible Black: New Testament Vol. 1 which comes out on November 15, 2005. ****.....Two more months. Anyways, head on over to the milky anime site and check out the info. The Art animation looks gorgeous!!!

A couple of things I've noticed: Takeshiro is not on this cover art, also three of titles have started with R: Reunion, Revival, Recollection, could the next one be Revenge?!! Anyways, I've talked enough. Bible Black 4:Recollection, October 25, mark them damn calendars!!!

ACE2001
August 25th, 2005, 06:54 PM
One more interesting tidbit: Looks like this one is going to be 6 episodes. Went over to their site to check out the episode count and it stated 6.....so it maybe over in April of next year, the month that the Bible Black ritual took place? Okay, I actually have to confirm that. Let me shut up now!!! :)

Masokick
August 25th, 2005, 07:41 PM
The Night of Walpurgis is April 30th.

ACE2001
August 25th, 2005, 10:50 PM
Thanks. :) And I was wrong again, there are 4 R's in the title: Revival, Reunion, Rule, Recollection. I want to say the next one would be Revenge, then the final title would be Resoultion? Anyways thanks again. I'm getting sloppy on my Bible Black knowledge here.

Jeyl
August 27th, 2005, 08:34 AM
How did you come across this infomation?

yoohoo782
August 27th, 2005, 08:30 PM
went to Milky's website but didn't see it in the New Releases Section. i take it u are talking about the magazine cover in Milky Press section?

ACE2001
August 29th, 2005, 06:37 AM
went to Milky's website but didn't see it in the New Releases Section. i take it u are talking about the magazine cover in Milky Press section?


Correct, since it comes out in october, it would be under the Milky Press section. My fault, I thought that was common knowledge. :)

Delariean
August 30th, 2005, 04:24 PM
Since the new bible black is coming out in Japan, how are you guys predictions coming out? As I have finally seen ep 1 subbed I kinda have some changes in thinking what happened between the original series and the sequal

Let share shall we?

First up.. I think Minase is dead. We have not heard or seen him at all. Something bad must have happened when trying to seal Imari's memories
for her to have painful memories as Takashiro has said, she either was aware of what Kitami (that's another thing I'm still think is somebody else..but moving on...) did after the failed transfer.
I think Minase and Takashiro tried to seal Kitami but succeeded at a price...I hope that I am wrong but that's the way its looking to me.

Second, I think the seal around Imari's memories were easing up before the bank robbery. I betcha that when she stopped at that place at the beginning of ep 1, or if the show decides to go back and show what happened, is where Minase and Imari either spent sometime there or was the place of the sealing.

Third about the young police officer who looks like Minase. I think that was the person Kitami had a crush on when she moved from at the beginning of her story in Origins. And also why she singled out Minase. She like us saw a resemblence in Minase with her old crush.

I still think that its not Kitami and that its the raven headed chick who was in origins that's doing all of this or was the devil within Kitami. But we shall see


Ok...am I right? wrong? Crazy beyond belief? Let's get this discussion started...

yoohoo782
August 30th, 2005, 04:37 PM
well as ACE had mentioned, it may be another 6eps run so maybe some mysteries will be explained during the next 2-3eps.

as for me, i'm a little frustrated w/ the BB sequel. even though there is a sub version out there my interest in the series is down cuz of the extremely long release dates and fanservice specials (which were good but pointless IMO). I'll wait for the uncen R1 release to find out whats going on

ACE2001
August 31st, 2005, 03:21 AM
Hmmm....I think that Minase is alive. If you look at episode 6 of the original Bible Black, Minase and "Imari" left on good terms so to speak. I believe that "Imari/Kitami" wanted to distance herself from Minase for the fact that she knew that she was about to do something evil and didn't want to get Minase involved. If "Imari/Kitami" wanted to kill Minase, she could've done so at any point in which they were having sex. My theory is that I think that "Imari/Kitami" both "love" Minase enough to a point where they are leaving him alone for the time being or they aren't able to locate his exact whereabouts since the last time they met.

I find myself watching this over and over again to see if I'm missing anything. All it does though is leave me somewhat confused.. ^_^ I want to say that Kitami's spirit is alive and well inside Imari's body, it's just that her spirit may not be as evil as we have deemed it to be. Okay, I am going to have to think about this some more here as I don't want to risk babbiling too much.

ACE2001
September 3rd, 2005, 08:08 AM
HAHAHA!!! Just found out something interesting. The fourth episode of Bible Black will come out October 25, 2005....the exact date the 2nd volume of Bible Black: Revival came out?!!!(October 25, 2004) Now I'm thinking that the final episode will come out October 25,2006!! :)

Alex_Mexico
September 3rd, 2005, 02:21 PM
So they are realeasing TWO EPISODES PER YEAR? Thats very sloowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. I know, the animations is awesome and everything, but 2 episodes a year is very slow. When was that Bible Black Only fan-disc realeased btw?

ACE2001
September 4th, 2005, 03:18 AM
It was released in July 25 of this year

ZODDGUTS
September 11th, 2005, 04:50 AM
Hmmm....I think that Minase is alive. If you look at episode 6 of the original Bible Black, Minase and "Imari" left on good terms so to speak. I believe that "Imari/Kitami" wanted to distance herself from Minase for the fact that she knew that she was about to do something evil and didn't want to get Minase involved. If "Imari/Kitami" wanted to kill Minase, she could've done so at any point in which they were having sex. My theory is that I think that "Imari/Kitami" both "love" Minase enough to a point where they are leaving him alone for the time being or they aren't able to locate his exact whereabouts since the last time they met.

I find myself watching this over and over again to see if I'm missing anything. All it does though is leave me somewhat confused.. ^_^ I want to say that Kitami's spirit is alive and well inside Imari's body, it's just that her spirit may not be as evil as we have deemed it to be. Okay, I am going to have to think about this some more here as I don't want to risk babbiling too much.

True in episode three in the sequel when Imari is "Kitami" when she's speaking to what's her name the ex red hair teacher she's annoyed/angered that she slept with Minase.

I sorta thought it may be due to both Imari and Kitami's mixing together like Kitami had gained Imari's feelings for Minase or it could be that Kitami during the time she had control over Imari started to have feelings for Minase? Who knows I'm guessing that they'll be some sort of Gaiden episodes just like in the original series to show us what happen in the past but this time I'll be about what happen during the time when Minase was with Imari (Kitami in control) and as to how she got sealed again.

Verbal Kanja
September 11th, 2005, 05:23 AM
Finally!!!!!! The new series of Bible Black episode 4 will be release on October 25, 2005!!! Mark your calendars fellas!!! This bit of news made my day, I almost want to cry!!! ^_^

Not be confused with Bible Black: New Testament Vol. 1 which comes out on November 15, 2005. ****.....Two more months. Anyways, head on over to the milky anime site and check out the info. The Art animation looks gorgeous!!!

A couple of things I've noticed: Takeshiro is not on this cover art, also three of titles have started with R: Reunion, Revival, Recollection, could the next one be Revenge?!! Anyways, I've talked enough. Bible Black 4:Recollection, October 25, mark them damn calendars!!!
Really?thats great..but i dont know milkys address can any body give it to me ??

ACE2001
September 11th, 2005, 05:52 AM
No problem:

www.milky-anime.com

Then click on the "press" button on the left side of the screen.

Verbal Kanja
September 11th, 2005, 11:05 AM
^ Saw it looks sexy as hell thanks for the link .

ACE2001
September 25th, 2005, 03:46 AM
I JUST viewed the trailer.....man, I must say that I'm really confused. I saw Kitami in the trailer but no Imari....and what's even more interesting is that I saw Jordi having sex with the girl whom she resurrected?! Also, not positive, I thought I saw Minase too?!! Just what the hell is going on? Didn't help that the trailer was real short. Hmmm.....damn it!!! Looks like there could be some flashbacks explaining what went on between Kitami and Minase? Guys I encourage you to go over and view the trailer at www.milky-anime.com I'm at a total loss for words right now.

yoohoo782
September 25th, 2005, 12:47 PM
yeah the trailer was pretty quick. i'm skeptical that the guy was Minase; he just looked to young, but ur right it might have been a flashback. looks good either way. we'll just have to see when its released in jap

ZODDGUTS
September 25th, 2005, 06:56 PM
I JUST viewed the trailer.....man, I must say that I'm really confused. I saw Kitami in the trailer but no Imari....and what's even more interesting is that I saw Jordi having sex with the girl whom she resurrected?! Also, not positive, I thought I saw Minase too?!! Just what the hell is going on? Didn't help that the trailer was real short. Hmmm.....damn it!!! Looks like there could be some flashbacks explaining what went on between Kitami and Minase? Guys I encourage you to go over and view the trailer at www.milky-anime.com I'm at a total loss for words right now.

Looks like that's a younger Kitami but when she was still teacher and that guy is probably the police man that was in Episode 1. At the end of the original series I think it was Imari says that she saw Kitami's past and that Kitami like some boy in her old school but wasn't able to tell him. Err I guess maybe it's him than again Kitami is getting b.ang by him so um err yeah. -_-;

username
September 26th, 2005, 12:15 PM
ok - Recollection is the 4th episode of the 3rd season. looks great. but what is "new testament"?
the licensed version of the 1st episode - La Lanza de Longinus? or already a 4th season?

germanturkey
September 26th, 2005, 12:36 PM
man, now that i think of it.. november can't come quick enough...

yoohoo782
September 26th, 2005, 12:59 PM
ok - Recollection is the 4th episode of the 3rd season. looks great. but what is "new testament"?
the licensed version of the 1st episode - La Lanza de Longinus? or already a 4th season?
the "New Testament" dvd is eps1 and 2 of the 3rd Season. Kitty Media finally got around to licensing it.

ACE2001
September 28th, 2005, 08:53 AM
I JUST received episode 3 of Angel Blade Punish! from CD Japan, which took roughly around 2 weeks to get to the UK, so it'll be around the beginning of November before I get a chance to watch episode 4. So you definately won't see me around here untill I watch it. Don't want to accidently spoil myself. Now I'm going to watch the trailer again to see if I've missed anything.

ACE2001
September 28th, 2005, 10:17 AM
I watched the trailer again.....You know what? I'm starting to think that the detective is Minase?! How you ask....if you watch at the very end you'll see that Kitami is acting very lovely towards him or now that I think about it, it could be the fact that he looks like Minase which ends up triggering her feelings for Minase and not necessarily the dectective as we see Kitami laying all drenched in cum after he's finshed with her. What I find most interesting out of this trailer is the fact that we do see Kitami again, but is she using Imari's body? Or is her "actual" body still alive. Could it be that Jordi somehow "resurrected" Kitami's body thus making her a new person? Or is it that Kitami/Imari are able to interchange looks when emotions come into play? Seems like with each new episode more questions are coming and none are being really answered. I tell you guys, I'm definately enjoying the ride here as you really don't know where it's going or is going to end up.

Another thing I find interesting it seems like the "purple haired girl" (I know her name, but too lazy to remember) is going down the same path somewhat as Imari did in the first series. If it continues like this, then we could definately see a vicious cycle here or an unhappy ending. In any case, I will be there untill the end. :naughty:

Just wanted to add a little bit more, if Jordi did resurrect Kitami's body, that makes Imari truly evil and Kitmai the possible heroine this time around. Of course it's mere speculation at this point. But we do see Kitami's body alive and in the flesh.....That's the most interesting part to me. Exactly what happened to Kitami's body at the end of the first season. It was safe to assume that she was dead, but there was nothing said further than that. Was her body burned? Was it buried? Was it laying in the morge. Again this is all speculation from me as I'm trying to piece things together. Damn, it won't be till late November till I see episode 4. =( Neverthless, I know this will be worth the wait. :)

Fantasy Real
September 28th, 2005, 11:22 AM
I have seen revival, reunion and rule and I look forward to seeing recollection. I watched the trailer and I have high hopes, the art and animation looks good but I am not sure it rivals that of revival. It seems Shiraki is once again on the receiving end instead of dishing it out (except for the scene where she stabs Minase). From my observation, I could definitely say that the character you know as the ‘detective’ and the same man you see getting it on with Kitami is not Minase. Minase has blue eyes and black hair, this policemen has blue eyes and brown hair and looks like he should be in high school rather than a detective.

Masokick
October 23rd, 2005, 05:22 AM
I just watched Bible Black Recollection. =)

Two thumbs up!

The animation was awesome, the sex scenes were non-stop. I can't wait until the region 1 version is released. It's pretty sweet.

I was hoping, since the title implied a memory, it would show what has happened to Minase, but no such luck. It does give more background to Detective Yamanishi though.

It still doesn't feel like the plot is advancing very far, they are four episodes into La Lanza and so much remains unexplained. But I really liked the episode.

Delariean
October 23rd, 2005, 08:55 AM
What was the background on him? Can you give a play by play on what was happening?

Hotsuma
October 24th, 2005, 07:35 AM
whats the difference between recollections and new testament, which i assume is the one that takes place after kitami dies? and where can i find it uncut?

lwindsor
October 24th, 2005, 08:17 AM
Hotsuma , Recollection is the title of the 4th episode in "lanza de longinus". The New testament is the English title for Lanza de longinus which kitty media is publishing.

Recollection: Yeah im also disapointed they didnt show anything of minase...or Imari¬_¬
but this episode was seriously not stop sex! =D i think the biggest gap was like 2 mins! The animation was good..but it's of the same quality in Revival. I think they were builing up for episodes 5+6 which should be awesome!! Poor shiraki..i bet she gets more abuse in 5+6 ^_^_^_^

yoohoo782
October 24th, 2005, 08:46 AM
I think they were builing up for episodes 5+6 which should be awesome!! Poor shiraki..i bet she gets more abuse in 5+6 ^_^_^_^
i thought so too. i still have no clue whats going on: which one is Kitami, which one is Imari, where's Minase, ect? this eps was purely just sex, which is just fine w/ me ;) i think shiraki and takeshiro are the most abused characters in this series. they never get a break :P

ACE2001
October 24th, 2005, 09:06 AM
Damn, I told myself I wouldn't click on this thread untill I've seen it for myself!!! I would download it, but it takes the fun out of actually waiting for the DVD...So still no Minase.....well, with only two more episodes to go, somethings got to give. I wonder if Yamanishi knew Minase personally, which is unlikely. Also, how well did he know Kitami back then or did Imari actually change her apperance to Kitami? I guess not since you guys said that Imari wasn't in the episode. At this point, I'm not worried about the animation. It's going to be gorgeous as always, just the fact that how it's going to wrap up.

As for Shiraki and Takeshiro. I somewhat don't feel sorry for either one because of the fact that Shiraki is kind of "naive" in sense that she easily falls in the predators hands. On the other hand, Takeshiro was the one whom started this whole vicious cycle and had a chance to end it, but messed up baddly and is suffering for it. I swear to Minase is going to come in and start messing everyone up. This time around, I want to see a happy ending for everyone.

Arrgh!!! It's going to be at least a month for me before I even get a chance to watch this since I'm importing it from CDJapan. I wouldn't have it any other way though since I'm a Region 2 hentai collector. :)

ACE2001
October 24th, 2005, 09:47 AM
I just went over to Milky anime's site and found something very interesting in the press release for December. It look like there will be a Bible Black Best Collection!?! Wow, the insanity. Just how much more Bible Black will be cranked out! Now that I think about it, I already have the Bible Black Perfect Collection for the first season, so this could be a totally different one. Probably would be like the best sex scenes in Bible Black, which would be interesting. I don't know about you guys, but I like every damn sex scene in Bible Black!!. Anyways, It looks like it will be A LONG while before the Bible Black franchise is over and done with. They still would probably do the DVD games for the second season with new footage like they did for the first season. Woo!!!! It maybe the same time next year before Bible Black is done. :lol:


On second thought, I could be wrong since I couldn't get the adobe acrobat to bring up the press release picture. Could be leaning towards the best of Midnight Sleasy Train 2. But if it is true, then I'm all for it.

jedisolo
October 24th, 2005, 11:50 AM
My order for Bible Black: New Testament just shipped today so I should get it tomorrow. I enjoyed every minute of Recollection.
-Andrew

ZODDGUTS
October 24th, 2005, 12:34 PM
Well since this series insn't an adapation of a H Game like the original was Milky Way (the animation company) is doing their own story line so I guess that's why the story hasn't been as good as the first series was.

Masokick
October 24th, 2005, 03:55 PM
What was the background on him? Can you give a play by play on what was happening?

I've been trying to post a recap here for you Delariean, but the site keeps crashing on me. I posted a recap and screenshots from Recollections on my site though.

ACE2001
October 25th, 2005, 06:56 AM
Sigh, When will I learn? I went on ahead and took another visit to Masokick's site and saw the Recollection pictures. The one's involving Kitami of course were interesting. Now it seems like Kitami and Yamanishi were obviously lovers at one point. Now the question is, were they lovers before the first episode of Bible Black or during? She looks younger in those picks, so I definately want to say after, but what doesn't make since to me is what exactly is Yamanishi's role in all of this? Did Kitami tell him about what happened in her childhood? Just how much does he "know" about Kitami is the question. Now to think about it, I wonder how old is Kitami and amanishi? That would probably make a huge difference in this unique situation.

From the looks of it, it may seem that Yamanishi may be the wild-card now that we know he had a past with Kitami. He maybe the "one" to stop her.

Again, with only two episodes left, theres going to be alot going on, so it's pretty much a toss up at this point. One more thing is that it seems that Jordi and Imari/Kitami are fighting for power, but what type of power I'm not sure. Hopefully this will reveal itself in the next disc.

ACE2001
October 26th, 2005, 10:24 AM
I went back to Milky-Anime and I found out it was the Best of Midnight Sleasy Train 2.....But it looks like there may be a Box Set for Season 2 of Bible Black which would cost around 20,000 yen!?! That's the impression I got from the press relase.....sigh, I guess we will have to wait for the trailer coming up in November to make sure.

Masokick
October 26th, 2005, 01:38 PM
If they are releasing a box set, there is a possibility they will make some extras like About Teacher, and Forbidden Arts, but with season 2 characters. That would be cool. ^-^

reo
October 26th, 2005, 05:50 PM
Well, I just finished watching Recollection and here is what I have to say:

Now it seems like Kitami and Yamanishi were obviously lovers at one point. Now the question is, were they lovers before the first episode of Bible Black or during? She looks younger in those picks, so I definately want to say after,
I could be wrong, but apparently, Kitami and Yamanishi (who appears to be a student at the time) were lovers before the the first episode of Bible Black, judging by Kitami's look. I would say even before Kitami was looking for a virgin to defy the devil.

Again, with only two episodes left, theres going to be alot going on, so it's pretty much a toss up at this point.
Is it official that there are only 2 episodes left in this series? What are the odds of Milky-Anime pulling another "Gaiden" series, just to explain what happened between the end of Bible Black episode 6 and the beginning of Revival episode 1?

One more thing is that it seems that Jordi and Imari/Kitami are fighting for power,
After watching Recollection, the scene where Jordi and the purple-haired girl are at the roof left me a bit puzzled. Jordi's role in this series is a bit unclear. Is she supposed to be another younger Kitami? What about the purple-haired girl herself ? Someone help me connect the dots here ..... :)

I really hope the storyline will clear up more in the upcoming episodes.

Masokick: really nice site, I actually would like to share a theme from the first Bible Black series that you might like to add to the site.

lwindsor
October 27th, 2005, 03:40 AM
in response to reo's question: Jordi seems to have taken control over Yuki (the girl with the pig-tails from the roof top scene) in order to infiltrate the cult. I think this was the reason for resurecting her in Reunion.
And as for Milky doing another Gaiden , I PRAY YOUR RIGHT =D i would love a episodes inbetween 5&6 to explain what happend to minase etc , not sure if it will happen though.

Also when BB:La noche de walpurigs was released they did 2 four min clips of Takashiro and Saeko entitled - Forbidden art and about teacher - wouldnt it be cool if they did some of them for La lanza de longinus as well as gaiden episodes? =)

ACE2001
October 27th, 2005, 04:06 AM
I think that more than likely it will be 6 episodes for the fact that some of Milky Anime's best titles usually go up to 5 or 6. Like Izumo and Enbo for example. Don't get me wrong, I would love more Bible Black, it's just that I don't want to see the plot get all torn up just to satisfy us fans. Like I mentioned earlier, I would like to see a happy ending to this or at least true closure, the Bible Black characters have been through enough already!!!! :lol:


As for Jordi....I'm wondering if she's trying to recreate what Kitami was trying do with Imari? If you think about, they have the same looks and everything. Is Jordi trying to gain a physical host from Yuki? I'm not quite sure as I'm pretty sure that she's planning something big behind the scenes. What I'm wondering though is where Jordi orginated from? Since we know it isn't Kitami, how did Jordi come about to learn about the ritual or everything else? I'm sure that'll probably get explained in the end though.

So if it is the fact that Yamanishi and Kitami met before the first season of Bible Black, how did she become evil so quickly? What made her change so drastically? From the pictures I saw, she looked very happy and everything.....The key here is how much Yamanishi knows about Kitami and her other "side."

Now that I think about it, he was in the same situation as Minase almost as Minase was unware that Kitami succeeded in taking over Imari's body. Yamanishi may have been unware that that Kitami was really a "evil" person. But he knows her true side and he may be able to save Kitami and Imari as well. He'll finally set Kitami's soul free and Imari would return to normal.

All of this is assumption of course as I haven't even seen Recollections yet. :)

ACE2001
October 27th, 2005, 05:08 AM
Went BACK to Milky-Anime's site and checked the episode count.....from the looks of it, it seems it may be 6 episodes but there is only 5 boxes there? Also, there is the "Book" (Bible Black Box-Set Season 2) which will be released Christmas Day......I'm going to be honest say that I hope they don't do a Gaiden and just continue straightforward with the story. I somewhat didn't like that milky did Bible Black Only Vol.1 and strayed away from the main story, but it wasn't too bad. I have the strange feeling that this series may end up being longer that expected.

reo
October 27th, 2005, 05:21 AM
So if it is the fact that Yamanishi and Kitami met before the first season of Bible Black, how did she become evil so quickly? What made her change so drastically? From the pictures I saw, she looked very happy and everything.....The key here is how much Yamanishi knows about Kitami and her other "side."
I can answer this right now. The reason she became evil so quickly is that she knew her contract (the life she was given by the devil) is coming to an end. Takashiro mentioned this in the original BB episode 4 ;)

I really have to go but I'll be back later to check the rest of your post. Thanks.

ACE2001
October 27th, 2005, 05:57 AM
I can answer this right now. The reason she became evil so quickly is that she knew her contract (the life she was given by the devil) is coming to an end. Takashiro mentioned this in the original BB episode 4 ;)

I really have to go but I'll be back later to check the rest of your post. Thanks.

That true, but she just did a complete 180. Almost like the "Devil in Miss Jones" type deal. I guess before the first episode of Bible Black, she was just trying to live her life as a "normal" woman which explains the the total change of behavior. Which makes me think, did Kitami and Takeshiro get along before the first episode of Bible Black. What I mean by that is were they "friends"......never mind that, they really weren't friends to begin with. :) Again, thanks for the answer though. :)

ACE2001
October 27th, 2005, 06:06 AM
Had to do another post here, I checked the release dates of Bible Black Season 2 and gave a rough estimate of when the next episode will come:


Shin Bible Black Vol.1- April 25, 2004

Shin Bible Black Vol.2- October 25, 2004

Shin Bible Black Vol.3- March 25, 2005

Shin Bible Black Vol.4- October 25, 2005

Now notice there's at least a 6-7 month time frame for each episode, so if it were to go to six it would be like this:

Shin Bible Black Vol.5- April 25, 2006

Shin Bible Black Vol.6- October 25, 2006

So we're looking at 1-2 years more worth of Bible Black. Wow. I haven't mentioned the possibility of Gaiden episodes or Bible Black Only Episode 2 or the Best of Bible Black Season 2, so it easily be exteneded to 3 years.

Only time will tell what the creators of Bible Black have in store for us fans. :)

lwindsor
October 27th, 2005, 09:19 AM
uhm...the milky website gives different dates to the ones you used.
revival:RELEASE 2004/4/25
reunion:RELEASE 2004/10/25
rule:RELEASE 2005/3/25/
recollection:RELEASE 2005/10/25

ACE2001
October 27th, 2005, 09:31 AM
I....just mentioned that.... :huh: I'm pretty sure I did. :lol: You probably just became confused because I actually written it out and everything. :)

reo
October 27th, 2005, 06:06 PM
Jordi seems to have taken control over Yuki (the girl with the pig-tails from the roof top scene) in order to infiltrate the cult. I think this was the reason for resurecting her in Reunion.
What I'm wondering though is where Jordi orginated from? Since we know she isn't Kitami
I just went back and watched Revival again. Jordi and the cult are truly on opposite sides. But why? Is it because both sides would like to get the burnt Bible first? Ultimately that's what they're after anyways, since that's whole reason for finding the Lance of Longinus...right?

But that still doesn't help with Jordi's origins.

Having said that, I really hope there will be another Gaiden series, partly for the reasons mentioned in previous posts. Having that and some special episodes would be cool! :)

lwindsor
October 28th, 2005, 03:55 AM
sorry ACE2001 =) - can you give me any idea on how long it will be till the next episode is released? If they dont do a gaiden it will be episode 5 so

reo - im not even sure if they are after the black bible in this series , here's why:

Imari/Kitami burnt the bible at the end of episode 6 of season 1 (revelations) , persuambly so no-one could reverse the spell? Now that 10 years have passed and Kitami is in full control of Imari's body and the cult , why would they want the book? It's not like they can put kitami back in her old body or anything.
So im assuming this peice of the longinus spear can do spells or something of its own...but now it's stuck inside Ichikawa so =/

reo
October 28th, 2005, 05:12 AM
reo - im not even sure if they are after the black bible in this series , here's why:

Imari/Kitami burnt the bible at the end of episode 6 of season 1 (revelations) , persuambly so no-one could reverse the spell? Now that 10 years have passed and Kitami is in full control of Imari's body and the cult , why would they want the book? It's not like they can put kitami back in her old body or anything.
So im assuming this peice of the longinus spear can do spells or something of its own...but now it's stuck inside Ichikawa so =/
The reason I thought about this is because in Revival, Saeki said "For the purpose of obtaining the burnt Black Bible, we have to find the Longinus Spear".

Doesn't it also make sense that Saeki goes after the burnt Bible again, since she was after it in Revelations 6 too? After all, the Bible resembles the biggest source of power ;)

lwindsor
October 28th, 2005, 08:27 AM
yeah you make an interesting point reo , it's just...if she's partners with kitami/imari, then why would they be after the book now after destroying it in the first place? This is all weird...alot more needs explaining =) BRING ON A GAIDEN =D a gaiden from the first season to season 2 would be awesome...see what happend to minase etc ^_^

ACE2001
October 28th, 2005, 09:21 AM
No problem lwindsor! :) If there is no gaiden or spin-offs of that nature, I would assume that episode 5 would be in April 25, 2006, which is a six month time frame for most of the Bible Black episodes. I would be surprised if they released it earlier, but I'm not counting on it.

As for the Imari/Kitami and Saeki paring.....something smells really fish about that. I'm wondering if Imari/Kitami is planing to double cross her. Or more less Saeki is Imari/Kitami's little disposable pawn in the game.

From what I saw in episode 6 of the first season, at the end I thought the book was burned completly as that was the whole point that Imari/Kitami destroyed the book, to make sure that no one else was able to use it at all because the book had the power to destroy Imari/Kitami.

Even if Saeki is somehow able to get a hand and return the burnt book back to its original state, Imari/Kitami is too powerful for her. So it's more or less whom is using whom and for what purpose. Imari/Kitam and Jordi haven't met yet either so that brings a whole new element to this once this happens. Will they be enemies or "friends." There's definately something huge going on behind the scenes and Imari/Kitami is the only one whom knows it. I would say that she's the Puppeteer pulling all the puppets strings. Making people move how she wants them.

I'm going to have to watch episode 6 again to make sure the book was burned to ashes. Well, so much and so little time left for this series. Two episodes to wrap up all the loose ends and to finish this once and for all. :)

Helo
October 29th, 2005, 05:07 PM
Hi guys,

I've searched, but can't seem to find Recollection. Can anyone tell me where I can download it?

Thanks!

germanturkey
October 29th, 2005, 09:17 PM
^^ buy it. or ask on a different forum... we buy stuff here... *snicker*

Helo
October 29th, 2005, 11:58 PM
Where can I buy it? It doesn't seem to be released on eBay or on DVDs?

*snicker*

jedisolo
October 30th, 2005, 01:19 AM
You'll have to buy it from a site that imports Japanese DVD's try jlist.com.
-Andrew

ACE2001
October 30th, 2005, 03:25 AM
Hi guys,

I've searched, but can't seem to find Recollection. Can anyone tell me where I can download it?

Thanks!


You can buy it here: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=DMLK-6402

I'm suprised at most of the responces here since 90% of you guys probably downloaded episodes. Where is the love? :lol: :P

jedisolo
October 30th, 2005, 09:41 AM
I only download the raws I wait until they release them on R1. I bought Bible Black: New Testament last week and I didn't mind the English Audio only track and Erobeat did a good job of combining both Language tracks to the Uncensored footage.
-Andrew

germanturkey
October 30th, 2005, 11:16 AM
i did the snicker part because even though a lot of us say "we buy anime" a large portion of us still dl it...

ZODDGUTS
October 30th, 2005, 02:11 PM
I only download the raws I wait until they release them on R1. I bought Bible Black: New Testament last week and I didn't mind the English Audio only track and Erobeat did a good job of combining both Language tracks to the Uncensored footage.
-Andrew

Heh, yup they did do a good job. ^_^

i did the snicker part because even though a lot of us say "we buy anime" a large portion of us still dl it...

I think this is a special case to do so. ^_^

Masokick
October 30th, 2005, 04:41 PM
First if you haven't seen all of BB2, don't highlight this.

I have a theory on one of the big questions in La Lanza de Lonigus.
SPOILER! (highlight to read)

We know Saeki wants to lance to recreate the burnt bible, but Kitami has no use for it. This is proven in La Noche de Walpurgis, Minase offers the book to Kitami, but she says he can keep it, she doesn't need it anymore.

I’ve been wondering what possible reason that Kitami/Imari would help Saeki find the lance.

Remember in the very first episode of La Noche de Walpurgis, when Minase deflowers Shiraki, it shows the picture of the magic charm with an "s" written in blood. Later at the end of the episode at Saeki's house, she tells him to come all over her, and Minase is stunned, he looks at the book, and has a vision of the bloody charm again.

A subtle connection is made, the "s" he wrote might have affected both Shiraki and Saeki, due to their names. Did Saeki feel just as strongly for him? In Revival, when Saeki is escorting the chancellor to the basement, she has a flashback to the day she spied on Minase, when Shiraki lost her virginity. She looks angry. Could she be jealous?

Saeki wants the Lance of Longinus, because she can re-create the burnt bible with it. Now Saeki always wanted to steal his book, but what if she was under the effect of the lust spell?

What if Saeki wants the book, to resurrect Minase?

In Season 2, there is no hard proof that he is dead, however, there is no proof he is alive either.

Perhaps the book has a resurrection spell? After all, when Minase told Shiraki she didn’t really love him and it was only a spell, she tried to kill herself. What if Saeki is under the same enchantment, and she’s been under it for years? It would drive her mad.


And why does Kitami/Imari decided to help Saeki? In Rule, she says to Takashiro, "...it was with this a** (her behind) that you stole MY Minase-kun."

Is she saying that Takashiro used her body to steal Minase?
Or is she saying Imari's body captured Minase's heart?

And why is Saeki so intent on punishing Shiraki in season 2? Because she is a jealous woman who was rejected?
So, does it sound possible?

gattsufan
October 30th, 2005, 06:57 PM
I'm new here, can someone please tell me a website I can DL Recollection at? I don't have IRC channels or anything, any help?

ZODDGUTS
October 31st, 2005, 01:26 AM
Masokick now that you mention it, it did look weird that Saiki had a pissed of look when she remember stuff that involve Shiraki and Minase. And I've forgotten that Minase did use that spell on Saiki the same spell that made Shiraki too crazy in love with him. Now the question is the spell still working? If it is then Saiki is in "love" with Minase. The other thing is Minase still alive? I think he is I don't see Imari/Kitami killing him and then saying "Oops should haven't done that" which then they need the Bible Black book to bring him back to live.

If that isn't the case why does Kitami want the book she already got what she wanted a new body because she didn't want to die plus she destroyed the book because she had no use for it. And because she destroyed the book it shows that she wasn't interested in gaining power. Well unless the producers in the sequel series decided to change that and has now made Kitami wanting to get power and she needs the black book.

Damn too many questions and so far none have been answered. Guess gotta wait for ep 5/6 to get things answered.

ACE2001
November 1st, 2005, 10:25 AM
I believe what it all boils down to is the fact that Kitami/Imari and Saeki are obviously using each other for reasons we don't know. I'm pretty sure that Saeki doesn't like Kitami/Imari too much for the fact that she has been humiliated by her on several occasions. Also Kitami/Imari probably sees Saeki as an vauable asset to achieve her hidden plan. So we know that that they don't like each too much...Think of Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance and you'll see what I'm getting at.

I don't think Saeki is jealous of Shiraki....at least I think. Unless the fact that Shiraki ended up having sex with Minase would trigger her jealousy which I find highly unlikely. More or less, I'm thinking that Shiraki has a much more higher purpose then we know right now, unfortunately.

I share some more of my thoughts tomorrow. :)

jedisolo
November 9th, 2005, 06:43 PM
Just thought you should know Erobeat just released a subbed version of Bible Black Episode 3 Rule.
-Andrew

Hotsuma
November 11th, 2005, 10:57 PM
Is the DVD uncut and uncensored or is it censored?

Masokick
November 12th, 2005, 04:46 AM
The official region 2 DVD is censored, with Japanese language.

The official region 1 DVD is uncensored, with English language, but there is no Japanese audio track and no subtitles.

look_mook
November 12th, 2005, 08:53 PM
i just recieved my bible black recollection dvd from japan, why is it censored?!

yoohoo782
November 12th, 2005, 10:18 PM
i just recieved my bible black recollection dvd from japan, why is it censored?!
because all japanese releases are censored by law. when the series gets licensed for R1 (USA) release, then it becomes uncen

ACE2001
November 17th, 2005, 02:54 AM
I just received my copy of Bible Black:Recollection from CDJapan and watched it about a couple of hours ago. I have A LOT to say, but I won't be able to say it today. Instead I'll just post a few thoughts about what I've seen.

Was it just me, or did this episode fly by REAL quick?! I mean before I knew it, it was over! That's the only real complaint I got, if any. One thing for sure is that the plot is moving very quickly. I'm starting to believe that Yamanashi may be the "savior" this time around, but I'm still hoping for Minase as well. The consensual sex scene between Yamanashi and Kitami was definately touching as we see Kitami in one of her most vunerable moments in the Bible Black series. For a minute there, I almost forgot I was watching Bible Black.

I'll state one more theory for now. I've noticed that there seems to be alot of evil going around maybe too much. Here's my examination:

Kitami/Imari- Aki

Jordi-Yuki

Saeki-Shiraki


The terrible "powers that be." Each of them vying for that "power" so to speak. Only question is, whom is more powerful. My money would be with Kitami/Imari as she may have possibly taught Saeki some spells, so I'm sure that she could Break Saeki as well.

To wrap things up here, it's no secret that these three definately don't like one another so expect a HUGE clash in the final episode.

Tomorrow, I'll post more, about Takeshiro's role and how Yamanashi may be able to save Kitami and Imari's soul from enternal damnation.

Masokick
November 17th, 2005, 05:41 AM
Was it just me, or did this episode fly by REAL quick?!

Nope, it wasn't just you! The episodes was non-stop. Didn't advance the plot as much as I hoped, but it was pretty hot all the same.

I agree, I think Yamanishi is in Minase's savior role this time, and he will try to save Ichikawa. I can't wait til it gets subbed.

jedisolo
November 17th, 2005, 07:54 AM
Since that Erobeat subbed the first three and made an excellent dual audio of the first two uncensored I'm sure they'll sub the fourth one. I wonder if they are going to make a Gaiden episode to explain what happened to Minase?
-Andrew

Masokick
November 18th, 2005, 12:44 AM
i was thinking about that. If they make a Gaiden, then they have 4 more episodes left to tie up the story. Which so far has not been clearly explained.

But if there is a Gaiden, I wonder if it would be more about Jodie and Ariesta Crawley? Maybe they are responsible for Minase not being around anymore? Then they could tie all the plots together.

There is obviously a backstory there, because when Takashiro saw her on the bridge, she recognized Jodie immediately.

jedisolo
December 22nd, 2005, 11:28 AM
I just wanted to let you all know Erobeat has fansubbed Bible Black 4:Recollection.

gameoffreak8
December 22nd, 2005, 11:40 AM
Thank for inform, jedisolo ^_^ I will downloading it later

jedisolo
December 22nd, 2005, 11:54 AM
You're welcome. I can't wait till Kitty releases it here in North America.

Neofalcon
September 26th, 2006, 04:21 PM
Im still extremely upset about imari going to hell.......just wasnt fair at all.

Jeyl
September 27th, 2006, 05:20 PM
Im still extremely upset about imari going to hell.......just wasnt fair at all.
Who ever said that the devil plays fair?

Neofalcon
September 27th, 2006, 07:21 PM
Who ever said that the devil plays fair?

The devil didnt make this :naughty:

Jeyl
September 28th, 2006, 04:14 AM
The devil didnt make this :naughty:
Well they didn't give us the Japanese tracks for the second sacrement, and they gave us defective transfers for the second volume (Which they aren't going to fix or replace). Yeah. The devil never playes fair.

Neofalcon
September 28th, 2006, 08:29 AM
lol, true

Well im just saying, thats f**ked up how they set up imari for a one way trip. I literally cried.......idk why.

BlazingSpeed
September 28th, 2006, 01:41 PM
Well they didn't give us the Japanese tracks for the second sacrement, and they gave us defective transfers for the second volume (Which they aren't going to fix or replace). Yeah. The devil never playes fair.

Your kidding right? I though Kitty was going to look into the bad transfers where did you hear/read this bad news at?

(Note: Kitty could/might fix it for the entire BB:NT collection to make some extra cash I hope...)

DatFatPat
September 28th, 2006, 05:51 PM
I think I know why they would try to use the lance to get back the book.

1. Remember the book looked old and crappy? Plus there could be pages missing?

Well, Maybe they are bringing it back so that it would not only look brand new, but it would have pages that are missing that Kitami is looking for.

Neofalcon
September 28th, 2006, 07:51 PM
Who knows, but why pierce into ichikawa?

Masokick
September 29th, 2006, 04:36 AM
Do you mean the scene in the hospital with Oshima and the scalpel?
He was literally trying to cut the lance out of her.

Neofalcon
September 29th, 2006, 03:02 PM
Well I ment why did they put it in her in the first place?

rZi
September 29th, 2006, 03:15 PM
they did it by accident, Imari used it masturbate ichikawa but then Jodie cast a barrier spell around her vagina so Imari could not get it back , hence why he tried to cut it out of her.

Jeyl
September 29th, 2006, 06:03 PM
I'm still trying to figure out what they were trying to do to her. They obviously had some plan involving that little lance. They dipped it in a cup of ••••• and it started to have a very serious reaction like dry Ice being dipped into water. Were they trying to put a curse on her, impregnate her (I know. Serious stretch, but why put it in that cup anyways?) or even KILL HER?!

This is so confusing.

Masokick
September 29th, 2006, 07:08 PM
they did it by accident, Imari used it masturbate ichikawa but then Jodie cast a barrier spell around her vagina so Imari could not get it back , hence why he tried to cut it out of her.

No. Jody was trying to kill Ichikawa (she called down lightning to kill her). It was Takashiro who cast the barrier. If you watch closely, the lightning never strikes Ichikawa, it bounces off the barrier. And Imari says something like, "Damn, a barrier!" because she is unable to retrieve the lance tip from Ichikawa.

Jody was very much trying to hurt Ichikawa, but Takashiro saved her.

Neofalcon
September 29th, 2006, 07:37 PM
Yeah thats weird...why they put it in her is beyond me, its like they were trying to create a jesus clone or something, because well jesus's mother was a virgin.....in a ways this seems like a plausible answer. But I dont think this was the plan since imari tried to retrieve it.

ericx2x
September 29th, 2006, 10:49 PM
I like all of the assumptions everyone made. I agree with most of those even though I don't think they will all be 100% correct. Good info I cant wait for the creators to finish up the story to bible black. I've been expecting them to take a while since Bible Black seems to be getting a name as the best Hentai or at least one of the best. They probably wanted to take their time with it. I'm kinda glad they did.

I seriously cant wait. At least I have plenty of time to spend with other Hentai.

I also have a question. Why was Taboo Charming Mother released out in the middle of Recollection and this next new Bible Black? I'm really deprived of info but is there multiple first party companies Milky has? I dont see why they just would ignore Taboo Charming Mother and work on Bible Black.

Neofalcon
October 2nd, 2006, 05:01 PM
.....idk.

I really do hope 5-6 are awesome. I hope the real imari can come back.

ZODDGUTS
October 3rd, 2006, 09:25 PM
Good info I cant wait for the creators to finish up the story to bible black

The "creators" are already done with Bible Black which was done by Active-Soft that made the PC Game that was later on adapted into h-anime by Milky-way. The h-anime followed the PC Game closely only the ending had few differences.

This sequel series isn't based on the PC Game like the original was the story since there's no sequel to that game. Just an original story made by Milky-way.

Hopefully the writers don't screw up with the story, so far they've been doing an okay job still a whole bunch of questions left unanswered in the sequel. I'm sure they'll do a Gaiden to answer some of those questions.

ACE2001
October 4th, 2006, 12:26 AM
Well, it depends on how episode 5 turns out to see whether or not a Gaiden episode would be needed. I don't think that the creators would do one this late in the series or otherwise they would've shifted focus towards making the Gaiden episodes first, then continuing on with episode 5. Again though, it all depends on how episode 5 plays out. Hopefully, we'll actually get to see Minase or what the hell is up with him?