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ryushe
July 24th, 2005, 06:48 PM
What Anime “in your opinion” did you fell started of strong but just got less enjoyable as you continued to watch?
One anime that I’ve seen that was like this was “Comic Party”

Comic Party, I loved the premise, A magna-ka who doesn’t really like manga, The conventions or the fans, starts to make fan comics and later realizes that he’s enjoying all the things he once hated...Interesting right...sorry, The first couple of episode’s were very good (The parody and humour were very good) I expected a lot from this title, but later down in it turned into a half *** excuse of a love story between the main character and his best friend that I feel could have been used to make a better ending than the anti-climactic crap they gave us. I know there’s two OVA’s for this series but I hear it doesn’t do justice to this series obvious short comings. Ahh...to be so disappointed from a title you liked so much in the beginning seems like a cruel fate.

Irons
July 24th, 2005, 07:01 PM
Gantz Gantz Gantz.

Neo0tak0n
July 24th, 2005, 07:02 PM
Gantz Gantz Gantz.

Yes.

Gantz, Gantz, and Gantz.

Xider
July 24th, 2005, 07:13 PM
Damn it! And I was really wanting to watch Gantz. How bad does it get, when does it get bad, and why does it get bad?

NO SPOILERS!

Death's Realm
July 24th, 2005, 07:13 PM
Dragonball GT, it had nice visuals and cool bad guys but felt like a pale copy of the original Dragonball

Irons
July 24th, 2005, 07:42 PM
Damn it! And I was really wanting to watch Gantz. How bad does it get, when does it get bad, and why does it get bad?

NO SPOILERS!

My opinion of Gantz can be summed up in the cliched phrase, "Great potential, poor execution."

It starts off okay, gets bad as pacing problems start to rear their ugly head, gets pretty good at one point near the end and then falls on its face over the last few episodes.

The Million Dollar Prons
July 24th, 2005, 07:46 PM
Five Star Stories.

According to John, the Manga spans hundreds of years and has gods, androids, dragons, legends, and everything thinkable.

But the anime, was an hour long and was the single worst piece of **** I've ever seen.

KT Kore
July 24th, 2005, 07:47 PM
This Ugly and Beautiful World. Started off with a nice premise in the first episode, then went on a 10 episode harem filler run, then tried to cram a story into the last two episodes and it failed big time.

ssj4goku
July 24th, 2005, 08:33 PM
I have to say His and Her Circumstances. At the begining it was really funny and had a god pace and I like it a lot. But around the last few episodes it felt like they just gave up on it.

lithium
July 24th, 2005, 08:39 PM
I have to say His and Her Circumstances. At the begining it was really funny and had a god pace and I like it a lot. But around the last few episodes it felt like they just gave up on it. I agree, the first few where something else then it went downhill.

Before someone else says it, I'm going to have to say Wolf's Rain. I loved the entire series, one of my favorites, but I know a lot of people who felt it went bad after the first few episodes.

demecowen
July 24th, 2005, 08:42 PM
Geneshaft, having govenment control and classify by your DNA and fighitng godlike object in space. But it fell at the near end and could not get back up.

Haruhi
July 24th, 2005, 09:25 PM
I made a thread like this already, but seeing as how it's oold, I'll just continue w/this.

Kimi ga Nozomu Eien - Yes, I know I criticize this anime a lot, but I do it constructively (or to the best of my ability anyways). Let's see... Good drawings, check. Good sound, check. Pretty girls, check. Good premise for a story, check. A tragedy to give viewers motivation? Check... maybe. A decent plot, check. A believable cast of characters? NO. Funny how all the good things of this anime can't redeem the series because of one detail.

Onegai Twins - Incest (always a hot topic in anime), check. By Studio Please! Check. Average to almost good drawings and animation, check. Good characters? No.

And some other stuff I'll never put up cause I'm so lazy.

Dorktron2000
July 24th, 2005, 09:45 PM
Gad Guard. The first episode was amazing; it had a unique feel with its jazzish opening by PE'Z, its wierd sexual undertones, and a cartoony yet grimy feel. It turned from something I really looked forward to watching into a mundane action show with villian of the week cliches and a truncated story (because of its poor ratings).

L/R: Licensed by Royalty. This series had an awesome presence just no execution. The story was bland and the character designs and animation were horrible. I remember they touted it along the lines of James Bond, but it never captured the raw action and occasional outlandish gadget that made the movies so enjoyable to watch.

Shibari
July 24th, 2005, 09:56 PM
Again, I'd have to say Love Hina. Worst manga-to-anime transition ever. I honestly wish that the anime didn't exist. It could have been so good, but no.... This one was a big, big disappointment for me. Perhaps I would have enjoyed it if I hadn't read the manga first.

Irons
July 24th, 2005, 10:02 PM
I have to say His and Her Circumstances. At the begining it was really funny and had a god pace and I like it a lot. But around the last few episodes it felt like they just gave up on it.

This is because they probably did.

There were several reasons why the end was not up to par. Funding was the major reason, though Anno leaving did not help. They also ran out of source material. I could have done a better ending to be honest, though given the material and finances I'm sure they could have as well. The series SHOULD have ended with the play...

Balboa
July 24th, 2005, 10:07 PM
Five Star Stories.

According to John, the Manga spans hundreds of years and has gods, androids, dragons, legends, and everything thinkable.

But the anime, was an hour long and was the single worst piece of **** I've ever seen.


Yeah, I bought it. Wasn't very impressed at all. I heard it was made to attract more attention to the manga, to pose as an introduction. I don't see where it could have done a very good job at that.

LOSTyears
July 24th, 2005, 10:13 PM
YuYuHakusho- I like the series but after the Dark Tournament it went off into whole other direction and the ending wasnt that great either.

sicklelee
July 24th, 2005, 10:16 PM
Dragonball GT, it had nice visuals and cool bad guys but felt like a pale copy of the original Dragonball

I was gonna say something similar to what you said but theres no point now.

I still agree with you 100%

seba_boi
July 24th, 2005, 10:19 PM
L/R: Licensed by Royalty. This series had an awesome presence just no execution. The story was bland and the character designs and animation were horrible. I remember they touted it along the lines of James Bond, but it never captured the raw action and occasional outlandish gadget that made the movies so enjoyable to watch.Definitely... I was so bought into its premise, but watching it made little sense and was quite boring most of the time...

This and X/1999... Good premise, though poorly executed...

SuperKnuckles
July 24th, 2005, 10:25 PM
Samurai Champloo. From the beginning, it seemed like it could be something beyond Cowboy Bebop. A pseudo serious anime by Shinichiro Watanabe that could actually have a very coherent story and a great endgame.

Then it turned out that the story was mostly mysterious and its endgame fell face flat with "convenient villains from the characters' pasts". And it barely had any semblance of a story by the end. Very disappointing for such a great ride. I felt shortchanged by its ending.

Levon
July 25th, 2005, 12:03 AM
Hellsing, starts out good then falls on its face. Which is why there making an OVA thats more based on the manga.

ayato kamina
July 25th, 2005, 12:17 AM
Samurai Champloo. From the beginning, it seemed like it could be something beyond Cowboy Bebop. A pseudo serious anime by Shinichiro Watanabe that could actually have a very coherent story and a great endgame.

Then it turned out that the story was mostly mysterious and its endgame fell face flat with "convenient villains from the characters' pasts". And it barely had any semblance of a story by the end. Very disappointing for such a great ride. I felt shortchanged by its ending.

while I respect your opinions, the stroy was executed in a traditional eastern sense with it being about the journey rather than the endpoint.

lav2k4
July 25th, 2005, 12:30 AM
Hellsing, starts out good then falls on its face. Which is why there making an OVA thats more based on the manga.


This is so true....The dub is probably the greatest dub Ive ever heard also...I mean I thought this series was going to be real good.Soon as it hit like episode 6 or 7 it went Down hill really bad.

DazzleKitty
July 25th, 2005, 12:53 AM
Hellsing, starts out good then falls on its face. Which is why there making an OVA thats more based on the manga.

I agree on this one. On the first three episodes I thought it was really interesting and was excited to see the rest. But near the end of the series it just started to suck and get really boring....and the ending was crappy.

Levon
July 25th, 2005, 01:22 AM
That villian was one of the worse & most pointless villians too. The show should have focused on Alexander & Alucard's rivality. They were supposed to have a rematch but we never saw it.

SSR
July 25th, 2005, 01:51 AM
Yes.

Gantz, Gantz, and Gantz.

Oh, and don't forget Gantz.
I wanted to see some action, not several hours of people crying.

Scandiadream
July 25th, 2005, 04:16 AM
Petite Princess Yucie- it had been quite good all the way till the last volume. But the episodes revealing the finale story got quite convoluted. They brought in elements that had not been hinted at before in any way, thus confusing the viewers more. The very ending was quite anticlimactic to say the least. In fact,it was almost pointless. What everyone had been hoping for did not happen. It did tie up the loose ends, but not quite in the way everyone wanted them to be.

Earthian- the premise sounded very appealing. Yet I could barely get through the first 2 episodes, and did not even bother with the last 2 ones. However, I was told that the storyline just did not make the transition from manga to anime well at all. So the manga may have dealt with the plot better.

quaze6
July 25th, 2005, 04:46 AM
Dragonball GT, it had nice visuals and cool bad guys but felt like a pale copy of the original Dragonball

i agree dbgt looked alot better before i actually watched it

Bozfan
July 25th, 2005, 09:16 AM
Outlaw Star

ryushe
July 25th, 2005, 09:27 AM
Outlaw Star
I have to really agree with you on this one, IMO Outlaw Star sounded good on paper and even the first few episode were really good but something made it not so good towards the end. At first I thought the idea was really unique but ended in a really bad cliché and you could say the same thing about Trigun too.

Xider
July 25th, 2005, 09:38 AM
I agree with one thing about Hellsing. Although I loved the anime, I was pizzed that we never got to see Alucard and Alexander face off again. What, the guy gets his arms cut off and that's that? Bullcrap. And Incognito was the worst friggin villain ever. And the way Alucard pulled a victory out of his *** was dumb to. He seemed to regernate for the stupidest reasons. Still love Hellsing though.

By the way, will the OVA continue the series? Or, ya know, pick up where the series left off?

Lynx
July 25th, 2005, 09:45 AM
Already mentioned and deserving another vote, Kare Kano and Hellsing. Love the early episodes, hate the endings.

Esrhan
July 25th, 2005, 10:05 AM
One title yet not mentioned is A.D Police. The first few episodes were decent anime but towards the end it just kept getting worse and worse. The whole plot became like glue on your hands... fighting to get it all out.

nameo9876
July 25th, 2005, 10:08 AM
By the way, will the OVA continue the series? Or, ya know, pick up where the series left off?

The OAV will take place during the Nazi arc of the manga. I honestly hope the OAV will be better. I'm not very excited about it right now. >_>

Berserk_Jay
July 25th, 2005, 10:19 AM
I think Inuyasha is starting to go downhill. It started off good and I really enjoyed it, but now Naraku dissapeared and they started going on all these stupid side-quests which are really pointless and now it's getting boring.

Levon
July 25th, 2005, 10:23 AM
By the way, will the OVA continue the series? Or, ya know, pick up where the series left off?

No, its restarting all over & will be based more on the manga.

SuperKnuckles
July 25th, 2005, 01:16 PM
while I respect your opinions, the stroy was executed in a traditional eastern sense with it being about the journey rather than the endpoint.

I know. But it doesn't mean I have to actually like that aspect about Samurai Champloo.

But for such a long and perilous journey, just having it end on such an anticlimactic manner and the characters simply dispersing as if they have met for only a few minutes, it just seems ridiculous to me. It doesn't make much sense.

Then again, Shinichiro Watanabe isn't really known for making great anime endings. He has disappointed before with the nonsensical ending of Cowboy Bebop.

SSR
July 25th, 2005, 01:30 PM
How was the ending of Bebop nonsensical? I thought it was pretty straightforward.

MagicianCamille
July 25th, 2005, 01:58 PM
I hate to say this, but, Ichigo 100% was fantastic all the way through until the very last scene.....I mean, nothing was resolved except a sub-plot that came around the very same episode!

ayato kamina
July 25th, 2005, 04:29 PM
I hate to say this, but, Ichigo 100% was fantastic all the way through until the very last scene.....I mean, nothing was resolved except a sub-plot that came around the very same episode!

Well ichigo 100% isn't over yet, the manga is still going and an OVA jsut came out afterwarda and more to follow. :)

Leader Desslock
July 25th, 2005, 04:37 PM
Speed Grapher. Had all the potential in the world: the rift between the Haves and the Have Nots, in opposition to the Free and the Not Free, an interesting psychological premise, dcent music and animation, etc. It could have been something. Instead, it comes off as a slightly less interesting version of Silk Stalkings. Profound waste of potential there, in my opinion.

SuperKnuckles
July 25th, 2005, 04:40 PM
How was the ending of Bebop nonsensical? I thought it was pretty straightforward.

Nonsensical because Watanabe simply added in a "convenient love interest device from the past" and a "convenient villain from the past" in the final episodes of the show.

In a few words, it's simply that Watanabe keeps resorting to convenient plot devices near the end of his anime shows. And it gets tiresome, because the start and middle of his series are usually very straightforward, logical, and fun.

Not so when it comes down to the endgames. Watanabe just doesn't seem to know what to do when it comes down to finishing up anime series.

ryushe
July 25th, 2005, 04:49 PM
Nonsensical because Watanabe simply added in a "convenient love interest device from the past" and a "convenient villain from the past" in the final episodes of the show.

In a few words, it's simply that Watanabe keeps resorting to convenient plot devices near the end of his anime shows. And it gets tiresome, because the start and middle of his series are usually very straightforward, logical, and fun.

Not so when it comes down to the endgames. Watanabe just doesn't seem to know what to do when it comes down to finishing up anime series.
I know it’s your opinion and I’m not trying to change it but I think this is a common misconception with Cowboy Bebop, Many think it’s a 20 episodes of fillers and the 6 is for the story of Spikes past. I didn't think he added a "convenient love interest device from the past" and a "convenient villain", this past IMO shaped the person Spike was in the series and you have to look at it outside the box, I thought it was a story on betrayal of once obvious friends or allies and IMO it worked well, Sorry if I sounded like a fanboy but I don't think I am it's just how I saw the series.

Leader Desslock
July 25th, 2005, 04:59 PM
Nonsensical because Watanabe simply added in a "convenient love interest device from the past" and a "convenient villain from the past" in the final episodes of the show...
Um... just curious, how do you think those were 'simply added in'? Those elements are an integral part of the plot, worked in from the beginning. Or are you just saying that you think Bebop has a simple premise?

Mechula
July 25th, 2005, 06:08 PM
Trigun.

All of the pieces were in place. It took place in a neat world. It was going for the whole "western" thing, which you rarely see in anime. Most of the villains and most of the cast was interesting to watch. The only thing that ruins it is Vash. His whole pacifist philosophy clashes with everything else that happens in the series. The creator obviously wanted to juxtapose "love and peace" with the rough, violent world, but it comes off as preachy and lame and ruins everything else. Had the series been about Wolfwood it would be one of the coolest series I've ever seen. As is its the most dissapointing anime I've ever seen.

Death's Realm
July 25th, 2005, 06:12 PM
Trigun.

All of the pieces were in place. It took place in a neat world. It was going for the whole "western" thing, which you rarely see in anime. Most of the villains and most of the cast was interesting to watch. The only thing that ruins it is Vash. His whole pacifist philosophy clashes with everything else that happens in the series. The creator obviously wanted to juxtapose "love and peace" with the rough, violent world, but it comes off as preachy and lame and ruins everything else. Had the series been about Wolfwood it would be one of the coolest series I've ever seen. As is its the most dissapointing anime I've ever seen.

Yeah, but would you prefer the cliched "Im gonna kick your *** for no reason" kind of hero we see so much of in this genre(action)?

Woooh
July 25th, 2005, 06:21 PM
Kimi Ga Nozomu Eien: First couple of episodes were decent..then just downhill.
Dragonball Gt: looked good, WAS bad.

Irons
July 25th, 2005, 09:08 PM
I hate to say this, but, Ichigo 100% was fantastic all the way through until the very last scene.....I mean, nothing was resolved except a sub-plot that came around the very same episode!

Clink the link in my profile to see what I think of Ichigo 100%, and that was just after 3-4 episodes. Trust me, my opinion went down greatly after the beach trip episode where it became apparant, even for those who are only functioning at a third grade level, that the story was treading water. There is next to no plot, hardly any character development, things happen randomly (like Yui appearing in Junpei's bed and undressing; let's call her a childhood friend so this will actually make sense [it doesn't]). I could go on, but I'll spare all of you. I want to go back and snatch one of those stars I gave it and beat the creators over the head with it.

animeburn
July 25th, 2005, 09:24 PM
Out of the things coming out recently? Jinki:Extend. Amazing first episode, then it gets compressed into a timehopping mess of angst, failed moms and a clone war. This show is so wasted because the level of suckage is in direct purportion to how outstanding the lead and support cast voiced the roles. I can watch this show, though it pains my heart to do so >_<

KT Kore
July 25th, 2005, 09:29 PM
Out of the things coming out recently? Jinki:Extend. Amazing first episode, then it gets compressed into a timehopping mess of angst, failed moms and a clone war. This show is so wasted because the level of suckage is in direct purportion to how outstanding the lead and support cast voiced the roles. I can watch this show, though it pains my heart to do so >_<

Yeah. I thought it was gonna be good. It felt "right" in the beginning. But the more I watched the crappier it got. Did I even watch the last episode? Meh, I probably did. Bah, the show was bad.

lithium
July 25th, 2005, 10:11 PM
Speed Grapher. Had all the potential in the world: the rift between the Haves and the Have Nots, in opposition to the Free and the Not Free, an interesting psychological premise, dcent music and animation, etc. It could have been something. Instead, it comes off as a slightly less interesting version of Silk Stalkings. Profound waste of potential there, in my opinion. This series did have a lot of potential. I found everything interesting about the first episode but it just keeps getting worst and worst. I'm on episode 13 right now and about to give up. I'm pretty sure you didn't even enjoy the first episode though. So our opinions on how it could have been better might be different.

keitoinferno
July 25th, 2005, 10:20 PM
hey what about Digimon it was signed for 7 seasons but was droped after 5. Or how Abenobashi ended how it could keep going.

Animegrl/Parnaz
July 25th, 2005, 10:26 PM
Pilot Candidate
Ronin Warriors

Leader Desslock
July 25th, 2005, 10:32 PM
This series did have a lot of potential. I found everything interesting about the first episode but it just keeps getting worst and worst. I'm on episode 13 right now and about to give up. I'm pretty sure you didn't even enjoy the first episode though. So our opinions on how it could have been better might be different.
The first episode had me more or less hooked, as did every synopsis I'd read, reviews, etc. Then I happened to catch the first four or five episodes, and I had to reluctantly let go of any hope I had for a quality series. Speed Grapher tanked hard.

How might it have been better? Well, they might have dropped the '2AM Skinemax' feel and made a real utopian/dystopian science fiction out of it -something that explores human values (freedom, love) versus human materialism and greed. Or barring that, they might've given me a single character that I could care about. The creators did neither.

Mechula
July 25th, 2005, 10:57 PM
Yeah, but would you prefer the cliched "Im gonna kick your *** for no reason" kind of hero we see so much of in this genre(action)?

Yeah, since I can't imagine a character I hate more than Vash, save for Kenshin, but they're effecively the same character. Anything, even the most common cliché, would be better than Vash because more than likely that cliché wouldn't get in the way of what I want to see. His wisecracks and antics ruin what tension builds up in the series and his pacifism ruins almost every action sequence because he refuses to do anything that might end up killing someone. So yeah, Vash ruins Trigun by keeping the good stuff from happening.

SSR
July 26th, 2005, 01:02 AM
Nonsensical because Watanabe simply added in a "convenient love interest device from the past" and a "convenient villain from the past" in the final episodes of the show.


But Vicious and Julia had been present in various episodes from the very beginning, I fail to see how resolving the main plot of the series could be thought of as adding a convenient villian and love interest.

Vash ruins Trigun by keeping the good stuff from happening.

Your opinion, but that's what set Trigun apart from the rest for me. There are plenty of alternatives if you just want to see people get shot, but I loved how Vash stuck to his guns :) and refused to kill. It makes even more sense when you learn more about where Knives and Vash came from and who they really are.
I thought the ending was fantastic, a slightly more upbeat and positive sign-off than most series.

futurebiblehero
July 26th, 2005, 01:28 AM
Macross Zero. By the last episode, it felt as if everything was so rushed/condensed that I simply stopped caring about everything that had previously happened. It's as if they ran out of time and decided to tie up the story on a lunch break.

japangirlcmw
July 26th, 2005, 07:42 AM
S-Cry-Ed. I found that the first few episodes were enjoyable, but the idea lost steam quick, and became quite dull.

Bluemizu
July 26th, 2005, 06:19 PM
Off the top of my head, I'd say Chrno Crusade. I remember getting interested in the first few episodes, but as the series went on, things went downhill. All these religious terms were thrown around like they were supposed to be important. I figured if a series' success hinges on attracting fans by using religious words, the show isn't very good. The characters were pretty flat too.

Levon
July 26th, 2005, 07:03 PM
S-Cry-Ed. I found that the first few episodes were enjoyable, but the idea lost steam quick, and became quite dull.

I agree, I liked it at first but then it got so repetitive.

Jeyl
July 26th, 2005, 07:40 PM
For me, it was Last Exile.Specifically, captain Alex. I hate captains who are so one sided, arrogant, and invincible. I felt more relief when he died than I did in any part of the series.

Full Metal Alchemist. I don't know. The show is so darn predictable. I just hate how selfish, and invincible Ed is. I don't like it when the hero is so overpowered that he gets out of every situation lickety split. I just can't help but hear the creators say "Ed has to always be right about everything."

Toothbrush
July 26th, 2005, 07:58 PM
Comic Party was alright at first, but turned to crap near the end. The first episode of Noir was awesome, but after that it went directly to hell(a very boring hell)! Thats all I can think of at the moment.

TheOneAndOnly
July 26th, 2005, 08:11 PM
S-Cry-Ed. It became "just another show" to me and it had potential. I was rooting for the show and then it just became bland. I wonder how it is doing on Adult Swim?

Haruhi
July 26th, 2005, 09:58 PM
I agree with Comic Party. I felt the entire cast was extremely stagnant, and hard to really like. Kazuki getting into the world of doujinshi was kind of rushed, so I didn't feel like he was that motivated. "hey, I dunno what to do w/my life. I'm just going to draw comics"

Mizuki having a crush on Kazuki shouldn't have been there at ALL, because nothing came out of it. And generally, the cast was just... not really that great.

seba_boi
July 26th, 2005, 09:58 PM
Nonsensical because Watanabe simply added in a "convenient love interest device from the past" and a "convenient villain from the past" in the final episodes of the show.

In a few words, it's simply that Watanabe keeps resorting to convenient plot devices near the end of his anime shows. And it gets tiresome, because the start and middle of his series are usually very straightforward, logical, and fun.

Not so when it comes down to the endgames. Watanabe just doesn't seem to know what to do when it comes down to finishing up anime series.:2-page-later rebuttle:


First off, I dunno if Watanabe had any part to the story, but major writing credits go to Keiko Nobumoto... She wrote most of the episodes (and if I remember correctly, the most integral Sessions as well)...

Secondly, how is it again that Cowboy Bebop just resorted to a nonsensical ending?... They just threw in Julia and Vicious?... Are you serious?... *fanboy blood boils thoroughly*

Not only did the story, but bits and parts of the dialogue and music all pointed out and contributed to the introduction of Julia in the last episode and her significance to Spike...

And you have a Spike Spiegel avatar... *shrugs*

Samurai X
July 26th, 2005, 10:03 PM
I agree with Dragonball GT. It could have been soooooo much better.

Uraku
July 28th, 2005, 01:47 PM
Samurai Champloo. From the beginning, it seemed like it could be something beyond Cowboy Bebop. A pseudo serious anime by Shinichiro Watanabe that could actually have a very coherent story and a great endgame.

Then it turned out that the story was mostly mysterious and its endgame fell face flat with "convenient villains from the characters' pasts". And it barely had any semblance of a story by the end. Very disappointing for such a great ride. I felt shortchanged by its ending.

are you talking about both seasons, or just the first? ( there is a second season, right? or am i thinking of something else?)

I'd say the story ( through volume 3 at least) is entirely coherent, and the fact that the characters acknowlege how little they know about eachother and where they're going really justifies the episodic nature. It's fun and stylish and light, and it knows it.

Death's Realm
July 28th, 2005, 01:55 PM
are you talking about both seasons, or just the first? ( there is a second season, right? or am i thinking of something else?)

I'd say the story ( through volume 3 at least) is entirely coherent, and the fact that the characters acknowlege how little they know about eachother and where they're going really justifies the episodic nature. It's fun and stylish and light, and it knows it.

Season 1=Episodes 1-13
Season 2=Episodes 14-26

There was a pause in it's production for some reason, so people usually divide it into two parts

Dorktron2000
July 28th, 2005, 02:15 PM
Season 1=Episodes 1-13
Season 2=Episodes 14-26

There was a pause in it's production for some reason, so people usually divide it into two parts

Season 1 - Episodes 1-17
Season 2 - Episodes 17-26

There was no pause in production and the season breaks were a decision from the Japanese distributor (Fuji TV?). The first seventeen episodes aired consecutively on Fuji TV; however, after not fairing so well in the ratings, the show was moved a few weeks later to the satellite channel and tagged as 'season 2' though their were no major changes. For a similar case look to Gad Guard which aired a year before Samurai Champloo.

Bozfan
July 28th, 2005, 07:06 PM
Ayashi no Ceres. This show started out dark and suspenseful, but then got dull and didn't end up living up to Watase's previous work, Fushigi Yuugi

Zoultaker
July 28th, 2005, 07:24 PM
S-Cry-ed looks great in the promos, but when I watch the 1st ep, it was just dull.

ryushe
September 6th, 2006, 02:58 AM
*Thread revival*

After watching a few more anime title's since I've last posted, I have some new entries.

Matantei Loki Ragnarok - Even though I haven't finished this series yet, I have to say I'm really disappointed at how this show progressed. Boy is it boring and the characters are sure annoying (Especially pink haired girl, Don't care to remember her name) and I was so looking forward to a norse mythological anime.

Air Gear - Great first episode and innovative as an anime, But the later episode just get to stupid to be interesting or funny.

GANTZ - I actually liked Gantz alot at the begining since I really like the manga but watching up to about episode 15 and up it turned into someting I started to loath.

kiyomi
September 6th, 2006, 05:31 AM
For me, it was Texhnolyze . It was a good series, but the ending was what got me to throw my remote at the TV.

After watching the entire series, and building up to a potentially awsome ending, it fell flat on it's butt and I literally shouted "WTF!!??"

Thusly, I was mad as hell.

I HATE anime series that do that to you. Builds you up, only to let you down.

spookyruthy
September 6th, 2006, 05:34 AM
I have to really agree with you on this one, IMO Outlaw Star sounded good on paper and even the first few episode were really good but something made it not so good towards the end. At first I thought the idea was really unique but ended in a really bad cliché and you could say the same thing about Trigun too.

No!!!! I loved Outlaw Star! And Trigun...meh. I suppose the last episodes felt like they couldn't be bothered anymore.

I have to say Dragonball GT too. I'm not a big DB fan, but after watching the Cell saga of DBZ, I had to keep watching, and came across DBGT. It dragged the storyline over sandpaper!

And I thought Love Hina was a bit of a let down too.

Chef Wun
September 6th, 2006, 09:57 AM
Gundam wing, after the first few episodes it becmae pretty much the same fights (literally) over and over till the last 9 episodes

BrendantheJedi
September 6th, 2006, 02:59 PM
I know this might be a common one, but Gundam Seed Destiny. Like everyone else, I think it started out strong, but fell completly apart with the clip shows and rushed ending. I hope the movies rectify it somehow.

Another series I think had great potential, but fell apart was (as much as it pains me to say it) Genshiken. Don't get me wrong, I love all 12 episodes of it, but the fact they stopped at 12 (about the halfway point of the manga), and decided to go with Kujibiki Unbalance instead pisses me off to no end.

max|mus
September 6th, 2006, 04:27 PM
Samurai Champloo. From the beginning, it seemed like it could be something beyond Cowboy Bebop. A pseudo serious anime by Shinichiro Watanabe that could actually have a very coherent story and a great endgame.

Then it turned out that the story was mostly mysterious and its endgame fell face flat with "convenient villains from the characters' pasts". And it barely had any semblance of a story by the end. Very disappointing for such a great ride. I felt shortchanged by its ending.

I originally thought the same as you, but like me, you can't focuss on the ending. The story was about the journey, and the characters relationships, rather than a solid story line. It was a lot like Cowboy Bebop in that sense. Though CB's ending was a lot better.

bornloser83
September 6th, 2006, 05:20 PM
I saw it mentioned but I agree that Gantz let me down. I loved the concept of the show. There was just too much pointless banter. I was expecting action and got 90210.

Also, the monsters were stupid. Onion guy? Giant bird thing? Crab monster? Well...there wasnt a crab monster...but ya get the point :naughty:

The Million Dollar Prons
September 6th, 2006, 05:24 PM
Jigoku Shoujo. I love Japanese horror, I've seen an enjoyed Grudges Rings Spirals Seances Electric Dragons and even some Zombies, so I was really hoping there'd be a real horror anime.

They had a great original plot, but they kept doign the stupidest crap with it. This dude got poked in the chest with a baseball bat, died, and then everyone blamed his best friend for it. Seriously, what the hell?

As if completly failing once wasn't good enough, they're making a second season so they can drop the ball all over again!

kenshinbebop
September 6th, 2006, 05:26 PM
Not an anime, but the Fuccons. I saw great potential here. The first episode alone had me in stitches. It wasn't well welcomed by others though. Maybe I'm just wierd. o.o

bornloser83
September 6th, 2006, 05:35 PM
Not an anime, but the Fuccons. I saw great potential here. The first episode alone had me in stitches. It wasn't well welcomed by others though. Maybe I'm just wierd. o.o

Your not alone. I think this show should have stayed in Japan.

Krueger
September 6th, 2006, 05:35 PM
TENJHO TENGE!

What a dissapointment! It started out very promising, but the anime deviated from its main characters to tell a [very] uninteresting backstory instead. I felt so cheated when the anime ended on such a cliffhanger. Boo. What sucks is that I can't even buy the manga since it's censored here in the US.

Bernard_Monsha
September 6th, 2006, 08:03 PM
while I respect your opinions, the stroy was executed in a traditional eastern sense with it being about the journey rather than the endpoint.


So eastern writeing is bad? Samurai Champloo is the most disappointing Anime I have seen in the last 5 years, it started out very strong then petered out early on, drifted about listlessly, and had a weak finish. If that is "Eastern" storytelling than they need to redefine it as "Bad" storytelling.

musashi1600
September 6th, 2006, 09:53 PM
Last Exile.

It looked like such a great title, right up until about episode 25.

Dio's end seemed pointless (which made Luciola's death pointless by extension), but the part that ticked me off the most was Mullin appearing in the final scene. He's supposed to be dead, for crying out loud. Plotholes FTL.

At least Alex got to strangle Delphine with his bare hands. That was satisfying.

ryushe
September 6th, 2006, 11:11 PM
TENJHO TENGE!

What a dissapointment! It started out very promising, but the anime deviated from its main characters to tell a [very] uninteresting backstory instead. I felt so cheated when the anime ended on such a cliffhanger. Boo. What sucks is that I can't even buy the manga since it's censored here in the US.
I'm acutally watching this (On episode 10) and I can see what you are talking about. The first two episodes were awesome but it seems to have cooled down alot in terms of action.

JuraBasilElden
September 7th, 2006, 08:03 AM
s-CRY-ed. I found that the first few episodes were enjoyable, but the idea lost steam quick, and became quite dull.Ditto. Both that and FMA, Innu, TBO, T.G. and Robotech, The Macross and The Invid stinko.

Lord Timaeus
September 7th, 2006, 08:49 AM
Hellsing.

Incognito = Gayest. Villain. Ever.

Prof.Nosebleed
September 7th, 2006, 12:12 PM
Dragonball Z started to deteriorate after the Cell Saga. But I did like the tournament where Goku fought Pikkon who kicked Cell's *** in like 5 seconds rather than like 5 episodes.

Ce'Nedra
September 8th, 2006, 09:22 AM
I've got to agree with Hellsing and Trigun.

Hellsing started off looking like it was going to be a really fun, stylish, bloody action series, though not so great on plot. It ended up with fluctuating animation quality and a final villain that was ridiculous looking as he was uninteresting. As others have said, around episode 6 or 7 it went downhill. I ended up feeling like the cooler characters like Alucard, Integra, and Walter were wasted with the uninspired characters in the second half.

Trigun started off looking like it was going to be a relatively fun action show, but was also held back by boring villains. There seemed to be a large number of filler episodes that were simply a waste of screen time. I also didn't like how Vash seemed to get increasingly whiny and mopey as the series went on. His love and peace philosophy seemed interesting in the beginning...but then he got thrown into situations where to me it seemed that killing would be the best solution.

Nightwalker seemed like it had an interesting story to tell, or at least one that wouldn't bore me out of my mind. As it was, the story never really got resolved, only a few character relationships did. The toning down of the series by changing Shido's blood sword from red to glowing pink (if I recall the color correctly) and other similar changes seriously reduced the style of the series.

Ariel Tsuki
September 8th, 2006, 11:44 AM
Let's see what series I though it had potential:

1) Gundam SEED: Great premise, great characters, great Gundam BUT VERY, VERY poor execution and storyline. It's upsets me that a series who had great characters just let them squander. Ugh. If it weren't for the characters, the show would be considered garbage across the board. And NO 50 episode series need 4 flashback/clip episodes. It how shows how unorganized this series is. And don't let me get on the cliches and poor storylines or great storylines ended badly. I was hoping they would redeemed themselves for SEED Destiny, but it's shows how messed up the SEED saga was when the main character becomes the main secondary character. Ugh ugh ugh...

2) Avenger: Again great premise, great animation and music, but horrid in everything else. I don't expect to have the characters likeable, but it's bad if none were at least hate-able in a good way. They basically spent 11.5 of 13 episodes of just wandering and fighting. And when they tried to explain why the people on Mars stop having babies, it waited until the last half of the episode with a very vague, poor explanation. It was concerned looking cool than to tell a cohesive story. This is the anime that made me VERY wary of watching anything coming from Bee-Train.

3)Last Exile: Now, while this is an excellent anime across the board up to Episode 24, Episode 25 is the reason why I can't really watch it anymore and LE fans knows why. Gonzo could've added one more episode because it was rushed with an ending that didn't match the excellence that this show been 24 episodes prior.

4) Inuyasha: Too damn long, not enough story for it to be that damn long. The End.

5) Ranma 1/2: Lost steam after the fourth season of the US release (the episodes were mixed up from the Japanese release), got repetitive and too long. (Not surprisingly, Rumiko Takahashi did both Inu Yasha and Ranma).

6)S-CRY-ed: Very good from animation to music, but the final episode was stoopid. At least the anime's ending was alot better than the manga's.

7) Samurai Champloo: I not say it was bad, it just didn't deserve the praise it was getting/ It was good but not considered a classic or even great.

8) Houshin Engi: Started off okay, then became a yawnfest.

9) oringnal Gundam: Started off okay, but utterly boring after a few episodes.

As for my two cents of Cowboy Bebop, it wasn't 20 episodes of fillers and 6 episodes of story. The whole point of Cowboy Bebop was: You can't escape from your past. Every episode and the movie shared this theme. It may be episodic but it does have a recurring theme in all epsiodes, even "Toys in the Attic".

Mr. sickVisionz
September 8th, 2006, 03:36 PM
Its been said alot already, but i'll say Gantz again. Alot of the arguments/conflicts between characters is very redundant... and these arguments are like the bulk of every episode.

Its a good show, but it does wear you down after a while.

The ending of Champloo was disappointing. But to me, the whole storyline of Champloo was useless. The cool thing about that show was seeing the characters interact and what adventures they got into next. The whole "samurai who smells of sunflowers" storyline was like an attempt to be "anime" in the sense that the series is a 26 chapter story as opposed to a series of 26 short stories. My favorite episodes had little or nothing to do with the main storyline at all.

Alice Catherine
September 8th, 2006, 03:47 PM
This Ugly and Beautiful World. Started off with a nice premise in the first episode, then went on a 10 episode harem filler run, then tried to cram a story into the last two episodes and it failed big time.
And I've been meaning to watch that, too. Darn.
I ain't gonna watch harem. I have the theme song on my Ipod, though.
Kick. Arse. Theme song.
Probably the only good thing about it, then?

Although I didn't quote, I agree with everyone who said Kare Kano aka His and Her Circumstances.
I HATE TSUBASA.

Matsu'o Tsurayaba
September 8th, 2006, 05:13 PM
Its argued that after the Cell Saga in Dragonball Z the anime went downhill from there,and its already been mentioned that Dragonball GT was a dissapointment.

Demon_Eva01
September 8th, 2006, 05:59 PM
I found Hellsing to be enjoyable but also it was very disapointing, s-cry-ed is one that I liked when it started but it soon just pissed me off and it got really stupid. Naruto has kinda disapointed me as well.

Till
September 8th, 2006, 06:21 PM
Macross 7
Basara whine's. Mylene whine's. Something irrelevent happens during the first fifteen minute's, Protodevln's attack. Basara charge's into battle his air guitar a blazin' POWER TO THE MUSIC!.! The confused Protodevln retreat. Repeat for fourty odd episodes.

The series has it up and down moment's, but it could have used a couple more fluff episodes like Encore, or Fleet of the Strongest Women to liven' up the show abit.