World of Warcraft

[The Loner]

Anyone here play?

[Jon]

The only thing bad about this game(IMO) is the community. They piss me off.

[The Loner]

How so?

The only thing that pisses me off is the level 60 horde who think they are badass and just kill me while I'm trying to do a quest or something. Then I try and be nice to the horde, but my anger level is quickly rising..

[Jon]

How so?

The only thing that pisses me off is the level 60 horde who think they are badass and just kill me while I'm trying to do a quest or something. Then I try and be nice to the horde, but my anger level is quickly rising..


There's a good example. But from what I played(friends house) the community is a bunch of 12 year olds who think saying the "F" word is cool and only want to do PVP.

[The Loner]

Eh? What server were you playing on? I've never run into anyone really obsessed with swearing, it's just something that happens in games, never seen too much though.

@_@

[safda]

Is it like Blizzard's take on EverCrack?

[Jon]

Eh? What server were you playing on? I've never run into anyone really obsessed with swearing, it's just something that happens in games, never seen too much though.

@_@


I remember him telling me he was playing on some realm called Aggramar. Maybe it's just the realm, and it doesn't have as bad of a community as I think.

[Michael]

How so?

The only thing that pisses me off is the level 60 horde who think they are badass and just kill me while I'm trying to do a quest or something. Then I try and be nice to the horde, but my anger level is quickly rising..

You should change "level 60 horde" to "level 60 players." D: I'm horde. I get ganked by sissy alliance who can't get any real pvp, so they have to make their small e-peen feel better by raping people half their level.

It has nothing to do with a faction, everything to do with people with way too much time on their hands, and no sense of honor. All of my hunter's pvp kills are from me defending myself. When high levels run at me, I don't even bother. I just /sit, then /smile at them. No point in running, no point in making it fun for them. Make it as boring as possible for them.

I don't have any animosity towards the alliance who group up to run around and kill people. To me that's fair game, they're getting Honor Kills, they're getting Honor Points, and I could easily rally some horde up and get some group pvp battles on. It's the people who kill you for no reason. The people who get no benefit from it, other than to say "I just totally owned that hunter (even though he's 20, and I'm 60)! Damn, I'm awesome!"

I will take my hunter PvPing some day, but I'm not going to be a sissy and go to places like Tauren Mill to do it. I'm going to go to places my level. I'm going to bring friends. And we're going to have fun, while honoring our faction.

[futurebiblehero]

I played until around 42 (along with a couple of sub 20 alts) and quit due to the community as well. I've played mmorpgs for years and it was only second to Lineage II for the worst, most childish community out there. Great game, terrible fanbase.

It's strange, that when the game first came out everyone was helpful and friendly. No one was making sexist/racist/homophobic remarks left and right. You didn't see players named "Cameltoe". Very few players had grammatical cancer. The messageboards weren't filled with egotistical bickering. The overall douchebag ratio was surprisingly low for the first couple of months. It was nice.

[dothacker5]

damn i hope i can get it soon what sucks about online games is when you first buy a game that's been out for awhile they just rape you i like being a necromancer so what should my whole approach be?

[Shocking Alberto]

I quit months ago with lvl 51. Didnt want to take part in their joke (aka honor system) after they nerfed Paladin to be such a boring class. Gave Infection all my crap though. Hopefully she didnt spend it all on gigolos. :P

[pigz4brains]

I have never really had a problem with the community on my server. I was sitting in IF one day and I had a question about alchemy so I posted it in general, and I had close to 10 people /w me. Now about the Alliance vs. Horde thing, I really don't like the alliance, but the only reason I play that side is because all of my friends play alliance and they don't want to start a new character. And it sucks being around a lvl 10-30 horde player with the constant attacks on the XR's. It gets very boring after a while.

Anyways my character information is:

Server:Terenas
Characters: Curtdahurt, Lvl 48 Human Rogue and Curtle, Lvl 12 Tauren Druid.

[Spike]

I plan to get this game after I'm done collecting my Warhammer 40k army, I got interested in this game after watching my friend play it all night and then realised that some reviews about the game are wrong. So ya this game has caught my interest.

[The Loner]

Gah, I can't decide if I want to keep playing my 33 druid or not, mages just seem so much cooler, but then I'm deleting 3 days of my life... I'm still gonna keep him, probably run him to 40 in the next week or so, it's just the 30-40 drought I hear of, then you hit 35 or 36 and SM to 40, then just instance and some questing. Sounds awesome. :)

[Jon]

Well, can someone give me a ball park figure on how long it takes to level?

[The Loner]

Alright, here we go!

1-10: Took me about 10 hours the first time, now I can do it in 5-6.
11-20: Eh, maybe a day, your first time through at least.
31-40: Probably a long time. I've played around 15 hours and I'm at 33, can't really say.

That's really all I can say, I hear when you hit 50, you have only gotten half of your total XP 1-60, maybe a little more, but 50-60 takes a LONG time.

[Jon]

Alright, here we go!

1-10: Took me about 10 hours the first time, now I can do it in 5-6.
11-20: Eh, maybe a day, your first time through at least.
31-40: Probably a long time. I've played around 15 hours and I'm at 33, can't really say.

That's really all I can say, I hear when you hit 50, you have only gotten half of your total XP 1-60, maybe a little more, but 50-60 takes a LONG time.


Great, I want a game that takes skill. Not some guy who is good at the game because he has no other life. But I guess thats how games are.

Though, I think I'm getting the game. 15 bucks a month doesn't sound to bad.

[The Loner]

Yeh, it takes skill. I can honestly say that, you can't just do the same thing over and over, like one type of spell, or attack, and win. You'll need numerous winning stragegies by the time your even 30 for PvP. And the PvP is amazing. I'll get a few videos, it's awesome.

[The Loner]

Alright, uploading the Rubix (Horde Druid) video and a mage video on to my server now. Both of them have basic strategies, and the mage video makes him seem amazing, but mages really aren't THAT amazing, but they can own some ***.

The druid generally moonfires then bear forms, the does some healing if he needs it.

The mage fireballs, then whatever the big fireball is to do ~2000 damage, then does some arcane move to finish them usually, but as you'll notice, he doesn't have healing spells, making it harder for him.

[Spike]

The Loner do you have any characters on a PvE server? If so when I get the game mabye we could party together or something once I reach your level.

EDIT: Do gamecards require a credit card to be imputed when registering?

[The Loner]

Nah, PvE servers are more boring. I just don't see the idea of them, then you'd HAVE to play BG for most of your action. I like keeping on my toes. Sure, it's annoying sometimes, but then you get those fair fights when you OWN.

[lav2k4]

the games getting old....Glad I quit.....MC for 8 hours = no thanks

back to fps....with mah new computer ^^

[Spike]

Nah, PvE servers are more boring. I just don't see the idea of them, then you'd HAVE to play BG for most of your action. I like keeping on my toes. Sure, it's annoying sometimes, but then you get those fair fights when you OWN.

Is it Horde vs. Alliance? I would like to know incase I decide to PvP.

[The Loner]

It's not ONLY PvP...

It goes like this. In PvP servers, in contested zones, you can be attacked at any time by the opposing faction. On PvE servers, you have to want to turn on your PvP tag to PvP someone, so there is MUCH less action.

[Batman]

I play alot of WoW.

Xfire (http://www.xfire.com/xf/modules.php?name=XFire&file=profile) clocks me at over 600 hours. Was @ 80+ hours a week but am cooling off till the summer holidays. Mainly play PvP, just prefer the style over PvE.


Batteh - lvl 56 Dwarf Hunter. Deathwing
Priss - lvl 25 Undead Rogue. Frostwhisper
might start playing again soon, my Dwarf should be rested all the way to 58 ^_^ .

[Michael]

People hardly raid XR on Illidan, but then again Illidan is in horde's favor for population. I'm amazed horde population servers exist. Everyone's a sissy alliance player. D:

To the person who likes necromancers: you'll feel right at home with warlock.

Which reminds me. If you're going to be uploading videos Loner, you should upload the one of the old warlock pet bug (if you've seen it). Comedy gold. Warlock pets, if they were dismissed with an active debuff, would recreate the spell on summon. So some gnome has his pet hit by a high level raid boss's aoe, dismisses him, then summons him up again in the IF auction house. I've never seen so many yellow 2000-4000s pop up in my life.

[The Loner]

Everyone's a sissy alliance player. D:

I disagree. Though I am only an alliance character to play with buddies, all that really pisses me off about the Alliance is the number of NIGHT ELVES. Holy jeez, at least 1/3 the population of Alliance is night elves. I HATE NIGHT ELVES. And what sucks more is I HAVE TO BE ONE to be a druid. God I hate my race, but I love the druid class. So 50-50 I guess.

[Solid_Snake]

Anyone here play?
I bought it on its release, played it for a day then got bored of it.

[Michael]

I disagree. Though I am only an alliance character to play with buddies, all that really pisses me off about the Alliance is the number of NIGHT ELVES. Holy jeez, at least 1/3 the population of Alliance is night elves. I HATE NIGHT ELVES. And what sucks more is I HAVE TO BE ONE to be a druid. God I hate my race, but I love the druid class. So 50-50 I guess.

Doesn't really change that the overall wow population is probably closer 3 to 1 in alliance favor :p

And yes, Night Elves are the worst. Well, NE females aren't too bad, though they aren't amazing either. NE males...worst race in the game. D:

[Rahxephon91]

I do Im on Sever Kargarth and have a 51+ Night Elf Rouge.

[The Loner]

I do Im on Sever Kargarth and have a 51+ Night Elf Rouge.

Worst race/class evar.

[pigz4brains]

I personally love Rogues. The only ones who have more DPS are mages. Plus I can stealth and pick locks. Its all good.

[Michael]

Okay, maybe not "worst" but "most cliche!"

[Spike]

Loner you know Tauren can play as druids as well. So if your sick of NE then play a Tauren Druid which sounds pretty cool imo.

[pigz4brains]

Plus as a Tauren Druid, when you shapshift your bear/cat/seal/cheetah has horns.

[Michael]

And you get War Stomp, which is crazy in PvP.

[The Loner]

Like I said in earlier posts, I'm alliance because all of my buddies are.

And 1/2 of horde is taruen.

[Tiran]

And 1/2 of horde is taruen.


Nah, half of horde is Undead for "Will of the Forsaken".

[Michael]

Will of the Forsaken is definitely awesome. D:

[Tiran]

Bit too awesome in my opinion, and I play horde.
Compared to Orc or Troll racials it outstrips them by a mile.

[The Loner]

Yeh, Undead are feared by priests. Heh, feared.

[Fullmetal3000]

^_^ ok WHO HERE IS HORDE !! *to let you know YOU SUCK *there i said it :) , by the way anyone here in a guild named *calm fire* ???? ^^

[The Loner]

I'm thinking after I get my Druid to 60, might wanna do a Warrior or Pali alt. Whats the real difference?

[Michael]

The real difference is in the fact that a warrior can deal a lot of damage, and can actually hold hate when tanking.

Paladins are supposedly insanely boring post 40, because they become nothing more than an extra healbot to any instance.

[The Loner]

Yeah, that's what I've been hearing.

I like the "use anything" about Warriors too (minus wands), so I think I'll roll that, but palis do look BADASS past 40 or so. But hey, fully loaded warriors do too.

[Michael]

The paladin only set's shoulder pads look so lame.

Warrior > Paladin fo' reals.

[cyber assassin]

The paladin only set's shoulder pads look so lame.

Warrior > Paladin fo' reals.

Lawbringer? i think it looks kinda cool.

[pigz4brains]

Just reached lvl 50 today. Damn its been a while.

[Rahxephon91]

Worst race/class evar.
Thats what you think. Rouges are good at pvp.

[The Loner]

Thats what you think. Rouges are good at pvp.

***can be***

[pigz4brains]

Well mine is I know that, mostly because of Riposte. And since I parry 20% of the time, that means that you have no weapon 20% of the time.

[cyber assassin]

Because of riposte? What are you specd?

[pigz4brains]

Mostly combat. Got 5 points in assasination and 6 in subtlety. Gonna unlearn my talent points soon though. Gonna try something new.

[The Loner]

What are you P4B? Class / race?

[Jon]

Yeh, it takes skill. I can honestly say that, you can't just do the same thing over and over, like one type of spell, or attack, and win.



Sounds like Diablo2. I hate the game, probably because I played it for 400+ hours.

[pigz4brains]

What are you P4B? Class / race?

As of right now I have a lvl 50 Human Rogue. And I also have a lvl 12 Tauren Druid. I would play my Druid more but no one on my friends list or my guild is ever on. Server is Terenas by the way.

[!n|=3c+iOn]

i'm still playing but mainly alts but i use my main to pvp every once in awhile...

Boulderfist

Celes - 60 NE Hunter
Seles - 41 Human Rogue *main alt*
Selec - 29 Human Paladin *play just for rest xp*
Flik - 23 NE Druid *same...but would like to take it up sometime*
Ansley - 21 Mage *same*

Gurubashi

Gimped - 11 Troll Shaman *new alt recently started*

[The Loner]

Heh, that hunter must be boring at 60.

Druid = easy to get groups. I wanna do a warrior later though, maybe a rogue.

[pigz4brains]

Anyone who plays WoW will find this hilarious. And if you have been wondering what the hell those people in IF were yelling about this is it.

LEEEEROOOOOY JEEEEEKIIIIIINSSSS (http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2671154?htv=12&htv=12)

[Batman]

Wasn't that put on?

Havn't played WoW for three weeks, might start a new character soon ^_^ .

[pigz4brains]

I don't care if it was staged or not, it was friking hilarious.

[Michael]

I never found Leroy even remotely funny. It's retarded at best. The fact that it was staged, and so obviously so, made it even worse.

Maybe it's because I've been around MMORPGs and this sort of thing for a long time.

Well, no. I found it funny in FFXI when an idiot of a raid would accidentally call for help on an HNM. I found it funny when people wiped because their black mages and dark knights were incapable of stunning a wide open self destruct move.

I find a lot of wipes funny, but not this whole staged Leroy Jenkins bs. Seriously. Worst. internet. fad. ever. I'd rather go back to typing in alt code ascii characters than hear anymore of this Leroy business.

[edit]
Actually. I know what ruined it. Ventrillo. The excessive over-acting. Play it on mute, it is hillarious. You know, minus the whole cliche of the over-acted terribly staged LEROY JENKINS.

[futurebiblehero]

I never understand why so many people find Leeroy funny, and yet I group with so many damned Leeroys. Do they just pretend to get the joke?

[The Loner]

Though I'm only 38, I've never seen anyone Leroy a group, at least on purpose...

Do people actually do it?

And if you go to Pals for life website, they have one funny video where they have a low level (like 5) go into badlands with a druid stealthing, then he comes out, roots them, and like 5 60s just rush out. It was funny for a little while.

[futurebiblehero]

Though I'm only 38, I've never seen anyone Leroy a group, at least on purpose...

Do people actually do it?

People rarely do anything -that- dramatic, but there are plenty of impatient players that'll rush right into battle before the tank even knows where they went or the healer has had time to rest. Those players are all over the place.

[!n|=3c+iOn]

anyone play on gurubashi?

i just started a new alt *which will probably end up being my new main alt*

if you do play there:

Gimped - 24 *and rising* Horde Shaman

[RPGuru1331]

Do people actually do it?
I don't even need to play WoW to know that answer; Yes. While not on the scale of what Leroy did, every game has morons that will go and pull stupid crap, be it intentional or not.

[The Loner]

Wow, have you guys heard the flying rumors that they might do a rollback? Gah, I've made the most progress ever in the last 7 days, if they do a rollback... ****!

Well, they are thinking about it because low levels (like 30s) were going into Mara and getting mass Krol Blades, and as you know, they sell for like 900g, so you know how much cash the people who sell gold for a living could make online... No good, and it crash some server's economy.

[!n|=3c+iOn]

from what i've heard it works like this...

and they were selling the krol blades for about 300g in a screenshot...

and this has been happening since the patch...

high lvl person with the krol blade/money enters mara...*it freezes at the loading screen for 10 mins i believe*

comes back with double what they had so double gold/items in inventory...

then they give it to someone else and if it crashes they get double too...

it happens rarely but if it did happen you have double what you had...

and imo i doubt they'll do a rollback...

[Lynx]

Whatever Blizzzard's fix for the exploit, the last thing I'd want to see is a rollback. I'd rather they just fix the problem and ban all the gold farmers and exploiters but they probably won't do that.

[The Loner]

Affermative, obviously there was no rollback, rofl @ people who actually believe it, and started it.

In other news, I dropped all of my 114g on a mount today (yay for level 40!) and new spells (haven't goten any new ones since 36).

[Pickie]

http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=PurePwnage-WoWisafeeling

[The Loner]

http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=PurePwnage-WoWisafeeling

Haha, I actually remember that from ep. 6.

<3 purepwnage.

[Kevin]

I play on Argent Dawn myself. I can guaranteee alot of bannings were handed out over the duping. Latle, I am just counting the days until the PVP-RP servers go live.

[Gandalf452]

I play on Windrunner as Malbus, lvl 29 Warlock.

[ANIMEJUNKY]

You should change "level 60 horde" to "level 60 players." D: I'm horde. I get ganked by sissy alliance who can't get any real pvp, so they have to make their small e-peen feel better by raping people half their level.

It has nothing to do with a faction, everything to do with people with way too much time on their hands, and no sense of honor. All of my hunter's pvp kills are from me defending myself. When high levels run at me, I don't even bother. I just /sit, then /smile at them. No point in running, no point in making it fun for them. Make it as boring as possible for them.

I don't have any animosity towards the alliance who group up to run around and kill people. To me that's fair game, they're getting Honor Kills, they're getting Honor Points, and I could easily rally some horde up and get some group pvp battles on. It's the people who kill you for no reason. The people who get no benefit from it, other than to say "I just totally owned that hunter (even though he's 20, and I'm 60)! Damn, I'm awesome!"

I will take my hunter PvPing some day, but I'm not going to be a sissy and go to places like Tauren Mill to do it. I'm going to go to places my level. I'm going to bring friends. And we're going to have fun, while honoring our faction.

dude i ahve a 50 hunter called ANIMEJUNKE
and a 22 druid called ANIMEJUNKY
both in magtheridon and i get ganked by ***** *** 60s of the horde in groups of 4 or more so its not just u but i know some of the alliance do it.. its just k=little kid sadly just deal

[ANIMEJUNKY]

Gah, I can't decide if I want to keep playing my 33 druid or not, mages just seem so much cooler, but then I'm deleting 3 days of my life... I'm still gonna keep him, probably run him to 40 in the next week or so, it's just the 30-40 drought I hear of, then you hit 35 or 36 and SM to 40, then just instance and some questing. Sounds awesome. :)

one just heal and rogue form them and stun them

hunters should jsut viper sting them and have there pet heal them so dont wry i never lose to mages... druids if used right always own them

[ANIMEJUNKY]

The paladin only set's shoulder pads look so lame.

Warrior > Paladin fo' reals.

th paladin has 3 main sets so
1-the judgement set is quite nice http://www.thottbot.com/?set=217
2- the lawbringer is pretty hot http://www.thottbot.com/?set=208
3-field marshals ageis http://www.thottbot.com/?set=402

I must admit that palaidns are not very good if not used right *cough* get brain hacker *cough*

So dont say they suck now they just arent as good as some classes but still my top 3

[ANIMEJUNKY]

Okay, maybe not "worst" but "most cliche!"

I SAY THE UNDEAD PRIEST IS THINK ABOUT THAT LOL ^_^

[Michael]

Why did you have to post four times? D:

I said in my post that it wasn't just me, that it had to do with the players, and nothing to do with which faction they're on.

Don't care about paladin's end game set stats, I still say lawbringer shoulderpads look lame as hell. Not as bad as the warlock clown outfit, but still-- retarded. Thankfully, Judgement's don't look bad (but also don't stand out.)

And priests can't even hope to compare in numbers to rogues. There are probably as many active priests overall in existance as there are night elf rogues.

And bah, I'm sitting in Desolace when people start talking about pvp action in Kolkar Village. So I run over there. Takes about 5 minutes, but I find someone.

Oh, look, it's not just someone, it's a night elf rogue-- stealthed. She backs away as soon as I turn around and look at her, drops out of my stealth detection range (while I have humanoid active, I was expecting real pvp, not a bunch of rogues). I drop a flare on her, and she just sprints away. So I mark her, sic my pet, and hit dash so he can catch up, maybe she'll be retarded enough to stop. I get close enough to pop her with a conc shot, but right about then ne rogue number 2 jumps me (bad rogue too, he had so much opportunity to screw me over since he had the jump). I change focus from the sissy runner to the guy who's actually fighting me.

First I confuse the guy, since my pet is a bit off and needs to get on this rogue to get his adrenaline pumping a little more. My conc shot timer is still recharging, so I'm trying to keep this guy at bay in melee range until I can do something to get the distance going. The whole time we're pretty much just dancing while my pet kicks his ***, he starts going for my pet... k,thx rogue. Aimed Shot crit 550 damage-- HK. Of course in the dancing part I had to click my gem-studded belt for the first time, and I'm still down to ~25% hp with kolkar aggro. Other NE finds me again and kills me before I can get a spot to rest. Oh well.

Go back, get my corpse, lay a freeze, pop stealth detection, and just pray no one comes while I'm waiting for regen. Get 100%, and I see the original NE rogue again, pop on her, start knocking her down, get her to about 21% while she's running. I'd be running too as a rogue if a hunter got the drop on me and I was marked, so I didn't think much of it. Then I run into 2 60s, and find out where she's been running everytime she gets aggro. To level 60s. God damn it. Why are people such sissies? Why do I have to get to 60 just to hopefully have fun in a pvp environment. Bah. :(

WoW needs battlegrounds more similar to DAoC. Not this Alterac Valley and Warsong Gulch CTF instance crap. We need a big open zone for specific level ranges, straight up pvp, or maybe make a little incentive with capture points. Don't want to be exactly like DAOC? Mix it up a little with a king of the hill style play, make it timed, rather than siege the keep. Make it kinda like a game of domination in Unreal Tournament. Do something other than make people wait in queues for hours to play... capture the flag in a map that's excessively exploitable. :(

[fireteen2006]

World of Warcraft has 3.5 millon people playing it.

[ANIMEJUNKY]

Why did you have to post four times? D:

I said in my post that it wasn't just me, that it had to do with the players, and nothing to do with which faction they're on.

Don't care about paladin's end game set stats, I still say lawbringer shoulderpads look lame as hell. Not as bad as the warlock clown outfit, but still-- retarded. Thankfully, Judgement's don't look bad (but also don't stand out.)

And priests can't even hope to compare in numbers to rogues. There are probably as many active priests overall in existance as there are night elf rogues.

And bah, I'm sitting in Desolace when people start talking about pvp action in Kolkar Village. So I run over there. Takes about 5 minutes, but I find someone.

Oh, look, it's not just someone, it's a night elf rogue-- stealthed. She backs away as soon as I turn around and look at her, drops out of my stealth detection range (while I have humanoid active, I was expecting real pvp, not a bunch of rogues). I drop a flare on her, and she just sprints away. So I mark her, sic my pet, and hit dash so he can catch up, maybe she'll be retarded enough to stop. I get close enough to pop her with a conc shot, but right about then ne rogue number 2 jumps me (bad rogue too, he had so much opportunity to screw me over since he had the jump). I change focus from the sissy runner to the guy who's actually fighting me.

First I confuse the guy, since my pet is a bit off and needs to get on this rogue to get his adrenaline pumping a little more. My conc shot timer is still recharging, so I'm trying to keep this guy at bay in melee range until I can do something to get the distance going. The whole time we're pretty much just dancing while my pet kicks his ***, he starts going for my pet... k,thx rogue. Aimed Shot crit 550 damage-- HK. Of course in the dancing part I had to click my gem-studded belt for the first time, and I'm still down to ~25% hp with kolkar aggro. Other NE finds me again and kills me before I can get a spot to rest. Oh well.

Go back, get my corpse, lay a freeze, pop stealth detection, and just pray no one comes while I'm waiting for regen. Get 100%, and I see the original NE rogue again, pop on her, start knocking her down, get her to about 21% while she's running. I'd be running too as a rogue if a hunter got the drop on me and I was marked, so I didn't think much of it. Then I run into 2 60s, and find out where she's been running everytime she gets aggro. To level 60s. God damn it. Why are people such sissies? Why do I have to get to 60 just to hopefully have fun in a pvp environment. Bah. :(

WoW needs battlegrounds more similar to DAoC. Not this Alterac Valley and Warsong Gulch CTF instance crap. We need a big open zone for specific level ranges, straight up pvp, or maybe make a little incentive with capture points. Don't want to be exactly like DAOC? Mix it up a little with a king of the hill style play, make it timed, rather than siege the keep. Make it kinda like a game of domination in Unreal Tournament. Do something other than make people wait in queues for hours to play... capture the flag in a map that's excessively exploitable. :(

thats why im not a ranged talent guy get the pet one up and just run around him with aspect of the cheeta and when he uses sprint con. him rogues are the easiest but ur making a good point about pcp my druid is a 28 *ANIMEJUNKY* i cant stankd ?? killing him

[Michael]

I'm not doing much of anything with hunter for a few patches. Well, other than save respecs and keep leveling MM. Hunter and Druids are supposed to be the next up, and Hunter is likely to get a near complete revamp of both survival and beast mastery.

[!n|=3c+iOn]

I'm not doing much of anything with hunter for a few patches. Well, other than save respecs and keep leveling MM. Hunter and Druids are supposed to be the next up, and Hunter is likely to get a near complete revamp of both survival and beast mastery.
yeah thats what i'm waiting for...

[Lynx]

I can't wait to see what they have in store for druids and hunters next patch. Hopefully it'll give me some incentive to start playing my druid again which has been stuck at 45. I've also got a 33 hunter which I've had a blast playing but it could use some work on certain aspects.

[Michael]

Well I don't find anything wrong with the marksman line really, other than it's only half your points, and you have to take something. Since I'm on a PvP server with my troll, it's almost necessity to pick up counter attack. A hunter can never go wrong with another way to immobilize their enemy, as I see it.

So I'm probably going to end up with all but the aura in Marksman tree-- but since I'm going straight down marksman right now, I'd pick it up until I got to 60, then respec that point into counterattack.

Of course, they're probably going to make a number of changes, so I'm afraid to cap out marksman and just sit on points.

[!n|=3c+iOn]

Well I don't find anything wrong with the marksman line really, other than it's only half your points, and you have to take something. Since I'm on a PvP server with my troll, it's almost necessity to pick up counter attack. A hunter can never go wrong with another way to immobilize their enemy, as I see it.

So I'm probably going to end up with all but the aura in Marksman tree-- but since I'm going straight down marksman right now, I'd pick it up until I got to 60, then respec that point into counterattack.

Of course, they're probably going to make a number of changes, so I'm afraid to cap out marksman and just sit on points.
yeah i went mm up to 40...then i respecced to beast up to 55ish

after hitting 55 i switched back to full marks/surv

all i mainly do now is pvp for my hunter...

[The Loner]

Gah, about 3.5 bars away from 46, doing some ZF.

I guess my buddies were right, horde stuff is REALLY bad now. I mean, I can see why my friend gave up on his main, because he basically gets ganked all the time. It's god awful when I'm about to kill a 50 mob that I've been fighting for 2 minutes, and some 54 horde has to come and gank me. FOR WHAT. Could you at least let me finish the effin mob you dumbass?

Oh well, some horde are nice, I saw a lock today that some how translated into dont kil, it's was pretty good.

[Orcish] dont kil

:)

[Takuto]

the downtime has been bad lately, today got stuck in ubrs when the instances crashed :( took about hour to get back on. then it happen again when i was tryin to run some guildes in rfd.

btw any one else play on illidan

[The Loner]

I think Micheal does... Just look at his sig, heh.

Anyway, yeah the server downtimes been half the day on Tuesday, so normally I just sleep in. A lot.

[Batman]

I've only just started to play my Hunter again.

Three bars into my 57th level, find it very difficult to get into a group nowadays. So I just PvP and grind. Like the look of the new Talent trees ^_^

[Michael]

Yeah, my troll hunter is on Illidan. I'm highly considering just rerolling as an orc. Mostly because of the upcoming hunter talent revamp (http://worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/hunters/talents.html).

My Troll was going for a 30marksman 21survival, for counter attack in pvp. But as of the upcoming revamp, CA no longer exists.

Survival seems pretty sweet now. The Tier 1 Slayer talents are definitely interesting. Wyvern Sting would be amazing for getting the jump on people in PvP. 12 second sleep followed by a 300 point dot. And if you can train that like you can Aimed Shot... oh my god. The major downside being that you pretty much have to get the jump with it, because you can only use it outside of combat like traps. It definitely sounds awesome for an offensive scout type hunter.

If I were to stick to the troll, I'd want to switch to Survival/Marksman. 31 Survival for Wyvern Sting, then 20 Marksman for Mortal Shots. If I went orc, I'd go Beast/Marksman, 31 Beast for Bestial Wrath and again 20 Marksman for Mortal Shots. Of course aimed shot is included in the 20 Marksman points.

Man, just imagine a DPS pet procing full rank frenzy during a Beastial Wrath. Beastial Wrath gives +100% damage. Add to that a 30% haste from a frenzy proc. Sweet.

[!n|=3c+iOn]

yeah the new trees are really nice...

theres supposed to be pet customization too next patch...hunters getting major love

beast is now gonna be much better than it was before...though before it was nice with frenzy

other than that i'm still playing my shaman...hit 40 the other day

[cyber assassin]

Anyone intersted in starting fresh on a server so all of us AN members could play with each other?

[Michael]

I'd definitely be up for something like that.

We'd have to decide on a server type and side though. That might be difficult to agree on. :O

[!n|=3c+iOn]

they started a couple new servers a week or so ago...

but last i checked there were some people in their 50s already...

[The Loner]

I'd definetly be up for an AN server to play on, as long as everyone played their characters every once in a while.

I have like 4 alliance alts, so I'd probably be more up for horde, since I wanna try a shammie anyway. I do have a warrior orc though, badass stuff. Just play my druid the most.

Anyway, any ideas for a server? PvP? PvE? I'd say PvP for sure, PvE bores me.

[The Loner]

I suggest:

Dark Iron - Horde Side

It's one of the new servers, PvP, probably medium pop right now, seems like it'd be fun to play on a new server, with a lot of people to quest with low levels.

I'm gonna roll a shammie, but only to level 2-3 in case anyone disagrees. If you haven't tried PvP, don't listen to the people who say it sucks, it's awesome.

Whaddaya think?

EDIT: From the time on the server, it appears to be west coast. I live in Chicago, ping VERY LOW, lower than my normal Central server. Good stuff.

[Michael]

I play mainly horde, but I like horde, and have no problems staying.

PvP would be the more fun route.

[add]
Not sure it's a good idea to just randomly hit a server. D: Personally I'd rather go for one of the more established ones, just because the economy would be ready, and the side balances would be more concrete.

Right now Dark Iron is 1.1:1 alliance favor (activity wise), which definitely isn't bad, but that's also the listed ratio with only just over 4000 total players.

I'm afraid we'd get a footing on the server, and it'd get flooded out with alliance and just make the game a whole bunch of waiting/defending.

I'd like to hit an established server with a balanced ratio, that way we know it'll take a lot to mess up the sides.

For a Horde PVP server, I'd say something between
Daggerspine (http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php?serverid=59)(1.1:1 alliance favor, total population: ~17,500)
Spirestone (http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php?serverid=433)(1:1 balanced, total population: ~15,000)
Ursin (http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php?serverid=542)(1:1.1 horde favor, total population: ~12,000)
Kalecgos (http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php?serverid=540)(1:1.3 horde favor, total population: ~12,500)

Kalecgos and Ursin are actually "New" servers, and have 3 times that of Dark Iron. D:

[The Loner]

Micheal, you wanna roll now? I'm only level 4, I'll do it over.

You pick a server, tell me yer name, and we can do stuff... Yeh.

Mike: always so technical, : X. Picking a server at random is FTW.

[The Loner]

Actually, looking at that, I'd roll for fun on Spirestone.

What are you guys rolling? I might go mage or shammy. Depends on what you roll micheal, or infection or whoever else is playing.

>Vortax - Troll Mage<

Playing on Spirestone.

[cyber assassin]

they started a couple new servers a week or so ago...

but last i checked there were some people in their 50s already...

yea on the oldest of the newest servers there are twol lvl 60s allready.

[cyber assassin]

About chooising a server i personaly like pvp servers. Horde side would be prefrable but if everyone wants to roll alliance that is fine with me as well.

[ANIMEJUNKY]

I'm not doing much of anything with hunter for a few patches. Well, other than save respecs and keep leveling MM. Hunter and Druids are supposed to be the next up, and Hunter is likely to get a near complete revamp of both survival and beast mastery.

I've been doing some snooping around and have found that hunters will become more able melee people and there pets will use almost all those left over talent points my 60 hunter's pet has just about 200 extra points :P

And the druid will be also more capable of fighting the shamans I mean come on i finally got the cenereaon rainment took forever and shamans still have mail armor, think about it a healer ranged caster that can use shields and double as a melee with all his enchants I mean my dad is a 60 "note im 18 not living with them LOLZ" pally and they still get him down pretty far and he has the law bringer set :P and in gameinformer with the KING KONG on the front they said 2 expansions coming soon so I found several spots they will open up so look for more and post em but hunters and druids for life all

one spot i found is in strangle thorn vale top left of its map a little island with a bunch of neatrul 60 eiltes check it out u can go there and talk to some its quite cool

[cyber assassin]

I've been doing some snooping around and have found that hunters will become more able melee people and there pets will use almost all those left over talent points my 60 hunter's pet has just about 200 extra points :P

And the druid will be also more capable of fighting the shamans I mean come on i finally got the cenereaon rainment took forever and shamans still have mail armor, think about it a healer ranged caster that can use shields and double as a melee with all his enchants I mean my dad is a 60 "note im 18 not living with them LOLZ" pally and they still get him down pretty far and he has the law bringer set :P and in gameinformer with the KING KONG on the front they said 2 exps. coming soon so I found severas spots they will open up so look for more and post em but hunters and druids for life all

one spot i found is in strangle thorn vale top left of its map a little island with a bunch of neatrul 60 eiltes check it out u can go there and talk to some its quite cool

So your dad actualy is able to take down shamans? even with lawbringer that still must be pretty hard. what wep does he use btw? i have a shaman and i harldy ever lose 1v1 to a paly.

[ANIMEJUNKY]

Actually, looking at that, I'd roll for fun on Spirestone.

What are you guys rolling? I might go mage or shammy. Depends on what you roll micheal, or infection or whoever else is playing.

>Vortax - Troll Mage<

Playing on Spirestone.

Shammy all the way ^_^

[The Loner]

Again, roll horde side, server Spirestone.

Micheal put up the servers that are good, that's just what I rolled on. Unless you have other ideas? It's a 1-1 ratio server, medium pop PvP, seems nice.

[ANIMEJUNKY]

So your dad actualy is able to take down shamans? even with lawbringer that still must be pretty hard. what wep does he use btw? i have a shaman and i harldy ever lose 1v1 to a paly.

he uses Brain Hacker or hand of timmy the odd the ony way he really get to them are that blessing taht increases attack power and increases speed by 40% for weapons and he has his critical strike up to 50 % ;) agility on all his armor and weapons I mean everything and all increase crit. items and that increase it by 2% trinket i mean +the max enchantment to everything for agility

[ANIMEJUNKY]

oh he jsut got finkles lava dreger in molten core so that should help out hehe ^_^ LUCKY BASTARD MY DRUID WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THAT THING OVER MY CRAPPY TARAN ICE BREAKER IM SAVING :'( TIL IM A 47

[Michael]

I was at work. D:

Imma be Triptych on Spirestone. Warrior. I have tomorrow off. Horray.

Until we can get more people centralized and stuff, try chat channel ANcrew. Not even sure if we want make a guild-- if we do, definitely not AN exclusive. :p

[cyber assassin]

Oh cool spirestone, i will try to get in contact with you guys if i can. Oh and animejunky that one hand mace you are talking about hand of timmy the odd, you are thinking of two diffrent maces and putting them into one.

[The Loner]

Yeah Mike you logged of AN just after I said it. = (

But yeah, I'm Vortax on there. If you're off tomorrow I'll quest with yas most of the day for great justice! Yeah, I think it's /join ANCrew then? Oh well, I'll figure it out.

Guys, post your names here too so we all can /friend yas.

[The Loner]

Well I'm gonna play more of my main tonite, I'll play the character on Spirestone most of the day tomorrow with ya, but I really wanna get 47.

[Gandalf452]

Started my Spirestone character today. Kajalu, troll warrior currently lvl 5!

[ANIMEJUNKY]

Oh cool spirestone, i will try to get in contact with you guys if i can. Oh and animejunky that one hand mace you are talking about hand of timmy the odd, you are thinking of two diffrent maces and putting them into one.

crap let me just take a good look over at THOTTBOT ......................*jeperdy Music* ............... ok THanks he has both and is selling the other its Edward the odd he has now Brain hacker and finkles lava dredger

sorry not big on anything except staffs and 2 hnd maces ^_^

[ANIMEJUNKY]

not to write in the same one but is there a better set then ceneraion rainment out there i mean i bought the only 2 buyable parts to it im not feral druid

[The Loner]

Make sure to /join ANcrew

[ANIMEJUNKY]

The only thing bad about this game(IMO) is the community. They piss me off.

just noticed sry but the day blizzard dies games dies mario is not that great and neither is nintendo

[The Loner]

Anyway, if you really want, I'm all of for switching to Illidan, since the PvP is awesome, and that's what we are going PvP for. If you guys want to, I'm up for it. I don't think anyones invested over an hour or two on their characters yet, so it wouldn't be such a big deal..

[ANIMEJUNKY]

Anyway, if you really want, I'm all of for switching to Illidan, since the PvP is awesome, and that's what we are going PvP for. If you guys want to, I'm up for it. I don't think anyones invested over an hour or two on their characters yet, so it wouldn't be such a big deal..

so we are changing servers to make a new ?

[cyber assassin]

I dont care where we play really either. ner zhuel also might be a good choice for pvp.

[The Loner]

I just want REALLY good PvP, though my current server is alright, I don't want to get mildly hight level and just grind away, at least med pop with awesome PvP. I'm asking around right now on WoW / GFaqs to see.

[Seraphim]

The best PvP server in my opinion is Dragonmaw. Most of the high level players wont bother with honorless targets so usually you have some time to level up before they really come after you. Of course thats not always the case as there are gankers on every server I'm afraid.

P.S. I'm Fairlight by the way feel free to come after me :P , or I will see you in Warsong Gulch :naughty:

[The Loner]

Seraphim... A high level guild on Burning Legion has that name. I was in it for a few days, it was mediocre.

I say Micheal makes the final decision, cause I don't care.

[Michael]

I don't really care either, I just know that Illidan does have strong PvP. D:

We have a better beginner hookup with Smile on the server we're on now, but meh.

Though I do have a RL friend playing with me on Illidan too *cough*. :p

[pigz4brains]

Bwhahahah. Ohh, man. I just got done with a 10 man Strat Dead run that turned into a 8 man. And our Lvl 60 priest turned out to be a gold farmer, we all suspected it but we gave her the benefit of the doubt. We definetly knew that she was a farmer near the end. There was a very cool off-hand that our warlock wanted badly, so he used his ticket to roll on it, but the damn priest rolled on it also, and won it. So the leader of the group changed it to master looter, and we moved on. So we get to the Baron and completly own him. I think all of my backstabs were crits and one of my 5 point eviserates hit him for over 1.5k. Well a blue robe dropped that would have been perfect for that priest, but everyone in the group knew by then that the priest was a farmer. And I hadn't used my ticket yet, so I did. I am now the proud owner of a lvl 58 robe. Everyone in my group thought it was the funniest thing ever. Well everyone except for that damn priest.

[Shocking Alberto]

Man I reactivated my account to join that PVP vs. PA thing in Dark Iron. There's something wrong with me.

[SuperHiko]

I am on the FireTree server

Horde autobot names Jazz

[pigz4brains]

I really hate Tuesday's. :$%&#!:

[Seraphim]

I really hate Tuesday's. :$%&#!:

I feel your pain :$%&#!:

[SuperHiko]

The Maint. happens like from 5-1 maybe.......

so during that time, school is in session and/or people go to work and/or there are so many things to do...

do what I do, sleep in.

[pigz4brains]

Thing is that is right when I get off of work. I work from 11-7, so I usually play WoW right after I get off.

[Seraphim]

Unfortunatly I can never really find anything to do around that time so I feel it pretty bad

"By the way I am over exagerating I'm not that big of a dork...promise" :P

[The Loner]

So uh...

Where are we playing?

[Seraphim]

I dont think they ever decided.

[Gandalf452]

So uh...

Where are we playing?

I already made my char on spirestone, and I thought a few others did too.

[Michael]

No one here was really being decisive. A friend of mine in real life started up his account again, and he demanded I join Ursin for a fresh server start. I'm on there as Kanzen. D:

[The Loner]

We did...

Oh well, I guess this idea FLUNKS, since no on knows where to go, and everyone is just going places. Someone went on Dark Iron, a few on Spirestone, and Micheal ditched.

[Michael]

I kept coming back to check to see what people wanted to do, but after 5 days of no one saying a word about a server, I figured the entire idea was already lost. :(

And man, I'm so ****ing glad I'm only playing World of Warcraft for the free ride to kill time right now. They're nerfing Mortal Shots, because it's "unfair to rogues." Yeah, because rogues don't already overshadow hunters in damage. Because hunters have a talent to guarantee criticals. Because hunters can, just from talents, raise their crit chance significantly. Because exceptionally geared hunters have the same crit rate as a low-end to average geared rogue.

Vanguard, I can't wait. Brad McQuaid, I hope to god you can rescue me from these half-assed MMORPGs and return me to the bliss that is your "Vision." Return me to the feel of a true classic 'tabletop' MMORPG, like you once did with EverQuest (pre-Shadows of Luclin).

[The Loner]

Yes yes, WoW is mostly mediocre. Thank god I'm only playing it as a time blower, and not liek OMFG HARDC0RE 10 HRS A DAI LOLE! I am midly addicted, but if they blow any class they I seriously like, I will get pissed off.

Whatever MMO is worth it next, a few of us must venture into togeather!

[The Loner]

Wow, this made me literly soil myself.

http://www.wow-europe.com/shared/wow-com/images/pvpminisite/en/index.htm

WOW. Screw MC, screw end game instances, I'm going to be PvP'ing.

[Shocking Alberto]

Someone went on Dark Iron

Er, I wasnt part of your decision to play an AN guild. I was simply stating that I reactivated my account to join the PA vs. PVP server war.

Which btw, has been hella sweet so far. There are currently 4 guilds operating in tandem just on the alliance side, 3 of which are already full (500 members each). And there are large scale raids everyday. It's pretty insane. I rolled a Paladin again after seeing one of those reckoning bomb vids, lmao. Then, like a day later, a CM dropped an anouncement about the pally execute, Hammer of Wrath. It's good to be back.

p.s. to Infection
I want my stuff back ;p


j/k.

[Seraphim]

Yes yes, WoW is mostly mediocre.

Excuse you by a highly disagree.

[SuperHiko]

Gimp daddy suggested I create a new char on one of the new 1.7 server coming up.

[The Loner]

I rather meant that overall, it has MANY flaws.

Does that mean it's a bad game? No. Does that mean I won't play it, or you won't? Hell no.

It just has a TON to still be fixed, almost all character wise.

[Gandalf452]

I rather meant that overall, it has MANY flaws.

Does that mean it's a bad game? No. Does that mean I won't play it, or you won't? Hell no.

It just has a TON to still be fixed, almost all character wise.

I'd rather have character flaws than gameplay flaws, like most other MMORPG's ive played. Character flaws I can handle.

[The Loner]

I'd rather have character flaws than gameplay flaws, like most other MMORPG's ive played. Character flaws I can handle.

Indeed it's not bad, I have had a buggy mission or two though..

But, right now, ALL classes meshed togeather in Battlegrounds are ALL useful, which is nice.

[Michael]

Whatever MMO is worth it next, a few of us must venture into togeather!

Vanguard: Saga of Heroes!

Though I warn it's another highly group oriented game. Same team that made the original EverQuest (before Sony ruined it). I really really enjoyed the early days of EQ, and I miss them. FFXI has been the only game to challenge my love for EQ so far.

With Vanguard, I have a lot of faith that Brad can do it again, but this time even better learning from his previous mistakes. And on top of that, it's a 3rd Generation MMORPG, so it looks freaking beautiful (it's built on the Unreal 2003 engine).

[The Loner]

I shall prehaps play, though if it involves grinding, it will take much getting used to.

[Michael]

Heh, everything's a grind in my opinion. Not a single MMORPG exists without a grind.

Honestly, I find WoW to be a step down from FFXI in terms of grinding. FFXI kept my mind entertained the entire time... WoW not so much. Only PvP keeps me on my toes. Leveling I'm generally not even paying attention, just hitting the important keys.

[The Loner]

Well, WoW is mostly grind QUESTING, which just seems like it's not grinding.

Go kill these guys for 10 of a 5% drop. I once grinded for over 3 hours for a .5% drop, and it was boring as hell. I mean, same area, same guy, waiting for respawns, I don't think I could take that all the time. With different areas, enemies, meh, if it's a solid game with some good PvP, hell yes I'm in.

WoW end game PvP has me VERY excited, plus some end game instances to keep me busy as well, plus some alts. I still have a lot of WoW playtime left, probably another 3-6 months AT LEAST, I don't see this ending anytime soon, since I'm obsessed with getting the leetest gear for at least ONE character.

[Michael]

I hate quest grinding far more than I hate camp grinding. At least with this generation of MMORPGs, camp grinding with groups involves all players actively working together. No more of the old EQ "hit auto attack and go make a sandwich" stuff.

Quest grinding makes me feel like a rat in a wheel. It's like Blizzard actually thinks I'm retarded enough to not notice it's the exact same thing, just with a pretty little bow tied around it.

Item quests in particular I tend to hate. Some of them make sense, like the "I need x materials to make y item, go find them for me." Other's don't. For example, Mills Overrun quest in Brill. Gather 5 notched ribs and 3 blackened skulls. Yeah, the mills are over run by the scourge, all hell is breaking loose, but you only need to show me that you killed 8 of them. Uh. Ok.

EQ had it much better for things like this. For instance, Qeynos. Qeynos hated gnolls. Oh, how they hated the gnolls, and how the gnolls hated them. So, Qeynos had a general bounty for gnoll fangs. You kill a gnoll, if you happen to find his fang, you get a reward. For every single gnoll you could prove you killed, you were rewarded. Gnoll genocide was in order. Not just two or three of them. Any of them, and all of them.

[The Loner]

Wow, I know lame people. One of my friends doesn't even have the game, but he cracked it and hosts it on his server. I showed him some epic gear today, and apparently he though it'd be badass to go get it, after setting his level to 225 or something.

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/7061/zorodruin6jo.jpg

I made fun of him, saying when he finally gets the game he'll burn out, and basically have fun doing nothing exciting or seeing anything new, since you're just giving yourself **** all the time without any effort.

Am I right, or did I push too far?

[Mad Clipper]

http://www.scottwills.co.uk/flash/teamwork/teamwork.html

[Michael]

Leeroy Jenkins is not funny.

[The Loner]

Leeroy Jenkins is not funny.

It was funny one time...

That was before EVERYONE SAW it and started talking like it was the funniest thing ever. I don't even see how it can be funny if you don't play WoW, much less play video games at all.

[Michael]

Eh, it's pretty standard MMORPG humor, doesn't take WoW to get the point of it. I just didn't think it was funny. They just took it entirely too far. Nothing wrong with staging humor, but everything is wrong in overdramatising for the sake of humor.

[Mad Clipper]

i thought it was funny how it was kind of random and how those guys took everything so seriously...probably set it up im guessing

[Mad Clipper]

oh and i was wondering can you play WoW offline?

[ryucross]

oh and i was wondering can you play WoW offline?
No. Then it wouldn't be a MMORPG.

[ANIMEJUNKY]

I just find it odd that i seem to be obssesed with druids hunters and warlocks is this bad that i dont like tanks or people that dont have immoblizing traps screams or roots and 2 PEOPLE HAVE POSTED ME ON HERE AND IM QUITE EXCITED TO KNOW THAT PEOPLE HAVE GONE ON TO MY SERVER TO SEE ME PLEASE POST UR REALMS NAMES AND ETC... ID LIKE TO CONTACT U IN THE FUTURE THANKS TO ALL one more thing is it bad like I said that I have no one with plates shields and down right a tank machine i beat them in duels all the time and they compain i run awway and use stopping spells what should i say because well I CANT STAY NEAR THEM ^_^ thnx to all

[Michael]

i thought it was funny how it was kind of random and how those guys took everything so seriously...probably set it up im guessing
Yes, it was staged, set up, faked, etc.

[Gandalf452]

I just find it odd that i seem to be obssesed with druids hunters and warlocks is this bad that i dont like tanks or people that dont have immoblizing traps screams or roots and 2 PEOPLE HAVE POSTED ME ON HERE AND IM QUITE EXCITED TO KNOW THAT PEOPLE HAVE GONE ON TO MY SERVER TO SEE ME PLEASE POST UR REALMS NAMES AND ETC... ID LIKE TO CONTACT U IN THE FUTURE THANKS TO ALL one more thing is it bad like I said that I have no one with plates shields and down right a tank machine i beat them in duels all the time and they compain i run awway and use stopping spells what should i say because well I CANT STAY NEAR THEM ^_^ thnx to all

I only have 2 words for you, PUNCTUATION MARKS!!!

[pigz4brains]

Has any been accused yet of being a farmer? Or a cheater? The other day I went to Strat Live and we killed the final boss, and he dropped 4 things, and I ticketed one of em. And nobody ticketed anything else so everyone rolled on em. I won two of the three that remained. One was a Flask of Distilled Wisdom, which is an alchemy recipe that increases your mana by 2000 for 2 hours(you can only make it in Scholomance). And the other one was a epic tailoring recipe for priests. And I won that one also. A few people wanted me to sell it too em, and I was at first, but then I thought that I could get a lot more in the AH. But there is a priest in my guild that is a tailor, that I could give it to. So when the raid is over, I go back to IF and one of the guys is calling me a farmer. Pissed me off to no end. So has this happened to anyone else?

[cyber assassin]

Uh some one called me a farmer once actualy more then once on spirestone because i was one of the first 60s and spent all my time in azhera farming gold and not replying to any tells. Turns out i was a farmer i was just selling it to friends at the time to help me pay for my account seeing as i didnt have a job. If only i was chinese.(sp)

[cyber assassin]

I saw the leroy video on tv for the first time. i only thought it was funny when he yelled his name for the first time, it was cute.

[The Loner]

Farmers are annoying, but the Chinese ones far funny.

"Buy 10g? love you :)"

[Gandalf452]

Click here to lose 10 IQ points. (http://media.putfile.com/PurePwnage-WoWisafeeling)

Try to listen to the words of the song. :cool:

[The Loner]

How does that lose 10 IQ points? I heard that song long ago, if it's what I'm thinking, the purepwnage WoW song.

[Miburo-Wolf]

I used to play WoW.. My subscription just ran out actually, about 4 days ago. Was a 60 NE Rogue named Heimdell on the Dalaran server.

[The Loner]

Only one level 60. Geez. Druid is now 11 levels away, and I still plan on AT LEAST getting him to rank 10 for PvP AND rolling a warrior, there is still so much to do.

[Miburo-Wolf]

Yea, I never liked the other classes, I tried, but could never get into them. Druid and Hunter were ok, but I always went running back to my rogue. Actually went back to EQ2, quit a few months ago. The community is much more mature, and although the populations are a lot lower, I'm really enjoying it. It's really just a timesink though,wasting time untill Vanguard launches. It's rumored that beta testing will be starting sometime in September, so If I can get into that, I'll be set. :)

[The Loner]

Druids rock, hunters are FTL (gg no groups), warriors are amazing with good gear, rogues are annoying as hell.

[Miburo-Wolf]

I was a big fan of dueling. Lots of people hang out outside IF and duel all day long. I got pretty good, and although my gear wasn't the best, I could beat some of the best equipped rogues on Dalaran. Druids were cake. Mages are as well, if you know what your doing. The classes that I really had trouble with were Paladins(prot specc'd) and hunters.. If hunters used multiple freezing traps, I was basically done, they could crit for 2k with aimed shot, quite annoying. If I got to them, then I had a good chance of winning.. Stunlock ftw :)

[Seraphim]

, warriors are amazing with good gear.

Oh yeah, Warriors all the way baby :naughty:

[The Loner]

Meh, rogues are more annoying than useful, just questing and having a rogue come up and stunlock me while in caster form (GG NO DEFENCE) then kill me in 5-6 hits before I can even cast / heal / try and escape gives a bad name to all rogues, cause they don't do much other than stealth - wait till I'm almost dead - kill me. Never seen it happen any other way.

[pigz4brains]

Meh, rogues are more annoying than useful, just questing and having a rogue come up and stunlock me while in caster form (GG NO DEFENCE) then kill me in 5-6 hits before I can even cast / heal / try and escape gives a bad name to all rogues, cause they don't do much other than stealth - wait till I'm almost dead - kill me. Never seen it happen any other way.

Well, thats one of the main reasons I don't play on a PVP server. If you don't want that to happen, try a PVE server. And about Rogues not being useful, I would say that Imp Sap is very useful for end game instances.

[cyber assassin]

rogues are usefull for killing rag, bring 20 of them and he goes down ez.

[The Loner]

Other than rogues, PvP is awesome, I'd just find PvE boring as hell, no matter what. It just takes out a lot for me.

[The Loner]

Honestly, I'm incredibly tired of rogues. Probably the dumbest class in the game next to hunters. A level 60 HAS to body camp me after I just walk 10 minutes to get my body. You have no idea how frustrating that is, then waits till I have the mob almost dead to kill me.

Just WOW.

[Michael]

Anyone is capable of it. I've been corpse camped by a GROUP of fruity night elf druid men before.

[The Loner]

That's because druids have fruity end game gear, so they are taking out their frustration on you.

IE. Centieron set (spelled wrong, I know). Though Stormguarde minus the head and Wildheart are not bad.

[Batman]

Honestly, I'm incredibly tired of rogues. Probably the dumbest class in the game next to hunters. A level 60 HAS to body camp me after I just walk 10 minutes to get my body. You have no idea how frustrating that is, then waits till I have the mob almost dead to kill me.

Just WOW.I agree that is a bit lame.

As a Rogue I tend not to do that. What I find to be totally pointless is when you get killed by someone that is skull to you <_<

[Death's Realm]

Well im playing Windwaker now for the first time

Think im a bit late?

[ryucross]

I agree that is a bit lame.

As a Rogue I tend not to do that. What I find to be totally pointless is when you get killed by someone that is skull to you <_<
And 3/4 times that happens to me, it is by, coincidentally, a rogue.

[pigz4brains]

Bah, all this Rogue bashing. Just because some people play like punks doesn't mean all of em are. I finally got my rogue to lvl 60 today and beat the hell out of Blightcaller. It was an eventful day to say the least.

[The Loner]

Just dinged 50.

[Esrhan]

Anyone here play?
I used to play it a lot but not anymore. I got so tired of the item obsession WoW has towards the high-end level areas. After reaching level 60, character development froze completely and it was all about items, items, items. I got bored of it and stopped playing.

[Batman]

Well for me I tend to wait untill the guy has killed the mob before attacking ^_^ and it's not always rogues.

Hunters do it to me mainly, 10 mins after I arrived in STV a skull hunter went for me :(

[The Loner]

I used to play it a lot but not anymore. I got so tired of the item obsession WoW has towards the high-end level areas. After reaching level 60, character development froze completely and it was all about items, items, items. I got bored of it and stopped playing.

Now BG has been implemented, so it's now honor and items.

I dunno what you expect from endgame, some games have absolutely nothing, such at City of Heroes.

[Gandalf452]

EQ has the best endgame, you can continue with AA points for a good long while. So the game never really ends, which is nice if you can put up with EQ's bullcrap that long.

[The Loner]

Level 52 now.

-_-

[The Loner]

*is grinding for 53 and glowing brightwood staff*

^_^

[pigz4brains]

Well, did all the stuff for the onyxia key up too the fight in the SW Keep. I wanna wait till there are a lot of people around so they can see me. I know its vain and stupid, but I have been watching all those fights and wanting to do mine. I will probably do it tonight or tomorrow.

[Kevin]

Fought Ragnaros in Molten Core last night, got him to 67% before wiping.

[The Loner]

"Once upon a time this little kid went to blizzard god and said:

"I want to give it hard and from behind.."

And so the rogue class was born...."

[Seraphim]

"Once upon a time this little kid went to blizzard god and said:

"I want to give it hard and from behind.."

And so the rogue class was born...."

Yes Horde rouges do give it pretty hard sometimes ^_^

[Veritas]

I unfortunately got hooked on warcrack and have a lvl 60 Undead Mage which I use to own all the little alliance noobs. :naughty:

[Lone Signal]

Attempting Flamegor atm. Brokenwing Lair is gay.

[Seraphim]

I unfortunately got hooked on warcrack and have a lvl 60 Undead Mage which I use to own all the little alliance noobs. :naughty:

Bah! I smack Horde mages around all day long ^_^

[The Loner]

Yay for horde? PHAIL.

53 Druid now. Gah, I feel 60. IT'S COMING.

[pigz4brains]

Did a UBRS run the other day. While fighting the last group of mobs before Drakk, he aggroed us. Needless to say that was a wipe. But one of the pallys used Divine Intervention on the other pally. So he lived, and we came back to whup up on his ***. I need to do a 5 man to the Baron in Dead Strat still. No one ever wants to do it.

[Takuto]

i ding 60 awhile ago, iam a rouge and i been trying to get my shadow craft set for ever i been having some of the worse luck :(

[pigz4brains]

i ding 60 awhile ago, iam a rouge and i been trying to get my shadow craft set for ever i been having some of the worse luck :(

So far I have 4 of the 8 pieces. I have the Shoulders(strat live off the cannon master), pants(off the Baron in Dead Strat), and I bought the bracers and belt at the AH. I need to go to scholo to get two more and one is in UBRS and the other is in LBRS.

[Veritas]

Just get the pvp set, I went throught all the instances with my first character so many times and i got his SC set. With my 2nd character I just pvped and got the pvp set since I was so sick of the instances.

[Lone Signal]

Just get the pvp set, I went throught all the instances with my first character so many times and i got his SC set. With my 2nd character I just pvped and got the pvp set since I was so sick of the instances.That's exactly what I did. PvP set is generally better anyways, and it's more fun to pvp than grind instances. Also the battlegrounds provides plenty more additional rewards.

[Lone Signal]

Also we're attempting Chromaggus tonight, yay.

[Veritas]

Well eventually pvp gets old too but hopefully since they are adding Arathi Basin you won't have to grind in WSG for hours each night.

[Lone Signal]

I find WSG entertaining enough. The only problem is the matchup is starting to degenerate towards PUG vs Guilded Groups...

[Veritas]

Well I had a goal to reach rank 10 in pvp and get the armor set and I did and after that it was good bye WSG.

[pigz4brains]

New patch=no Cosmos. :( Haven't gone to Arathi Basin yet, and the new raid dungeon neither. Can't wait to go to either one, something new to try.

[Malon]

Hey. I just made a Tauren Hunter not too long ago on my brother's account. Her name is Maygrass. If you want to do anything or give me somt tips, please whisper me. ^_^

[pigz4brains]

What server you on?

[!n|=3c+iOn]

new patch revived my love for hunter...

back to boulderfist for now...

doing lots of ab and trying to upgrade gear in new instance...

[Veritas]

AB is pretty cool at first I didn't like it, but it grew on me as I played. It would be great to share any strategies you guys have for winning in AB. After a few games my strat became to have group 1 get mill, group 2 get blacksmith and group 3 get the mines, this strat has worked but im sure there are much better ones out there.

[Malon]

What server you on?

Oh yeah. I forgot about that. I think it was named "Skywall" or something like that.

[Matsu'o Tsurayaba]

Ive been thinking of buying this game for years.Is there any place where i can see CGI graphics from the game?Is it worth the time and effer to get?

[kineticsulcus]

I'm just about to get my account ready for it the game. Is it pretty easy to figure out how everything works? hope so lol

[ryucross]

Ive been thinking of buying this game for years.Is there any place where i can see CGI graphics from the game?Is it worth the time and effer to get?
There's the opening movie, and that's it.

[Veritas]

Being a player of WoW since it came out I would not advise that you buy it. You will become hooked and if you have anything else in your life you might as well forget it. This game becomes less fun as you get more hooked.

[!n|=3c+iOn]

druids talent tree has been released and it looks amazing...

it might be time to dust off my druid when its released :P

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/druids2/talents.html

[pigz4brains]

Moonkin Form? OMG! That makes me want to get my druid up before the patch comes out.

And some other things I have done with my Rogue since I last posted. I got my Shadowcraft Cap today. I also 5 manned the Baron in Dead Strat, got my lightsaber. I am trying to get Sergeant now. Hmm, I can't think of anything else that important.

[Westlo]

I was about to quit this game but patch 1.7 went live just before my sub run out... and Arathi Basin is great fun and I love Zul Gurrab :D

Lvl 60 Human Mage here with a twinked lvl 46 Warrior alt (Crusader on Executioners Cleaver). Though atm I wish i had rolled on a pvp server at first :/

I think I might make another mage on a pvp server :(

[cyber assassin]

Fought Ragnaros in Molten Core last night, got him to 67% before wiping.

noob, months behind :P, Just curious how many rogues and ice mages did you have? Rag is pretty easy if you have alot of dps, jsut kill him in three minutes and you wont even have to deal with the first set of sons

[Westlo]

Rag is only easy if you have been farming MC for months to get FR gear, course he got toned down heaps just like Onyxia was and Nef will be.

They always tone down the hardest raid boss just before the next top end instance comes out.

Can't wait to hit rank 7 for pvping then I can keep my current mage (want the pvp gloves and boots for the 2 piece bonus) for just pve and focus all my pvp time on a new server :)

Alliance PUG's are hopeless on my server

[Malon]

Hey guys I just installed the game on my computer so I can play it whenever I want.
I have a problem though. The game screen and my computer screen are not aligned correctly. The bottom of the game screen is at the top of my computer screen. Does anyone know a soltution to thir problem? Because I have gotten no help at GameFAQs.

[cyber assassin]

try using your monitor settings to ajust it.

[The Loner]

Yeah, Alliance pugs SUCK on my server.

Worst we ever lost was 90-2000.

I have no idea how it happened, but we just got blown away. Nobody listens to anyone, but if I get 3-4 guys I know, we can easily take a point or two out of the five, but overall, we can't make THAT much of an impact on a crappy team.


Level 58 now, and I got a GBS with +22 int.

[The Loner]

Lewl, level 60.

[Malon]

I made my hunter before the recent hunter update but I hadn't played her or this game until about a month later (started in late August I think) and I'm wondering if her talent trees will have not received the update. I don't know because she's not level 10 yet. Does anyone know?

[pigz4brains]

Grats Loner.

I am still trying to get my Shadowcraft set for my rogue. Getting kinda tired of doing the most damage and having nothing to show for it.

[stonedragon1027]

I have....27 characters...three of each class..I currently only use my fire mage...oh, and if anyones alliance on the Shadow Council server, drop by and say hello! Character name is Zeppo (anyone who gets the reference gets a cookie....or a punch in the face, for being an oldie)

[Rahxephon91]

I have a level 60 Rogue. Recently I requried most of my SC armor(except the helm and bracers that I dont need). I also got the cool blue 1h sword that the Barron has. and I just want to post this hillrious video that only WOW fans will get
http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=4568

[pigz4brains]

Got Fiery on my lightsaber. Now its red at the base, purple in the middle and blue at the tip. Very cool looking.

[pigz4brains]

Got this from a friend the other day, its pretty interesting to read. But like its says at the beginning, its probably not true. Its pretty long so I will make a few different posts.


Don't expect this to be legit, but it's worth a read..


World of Warcraft Expansion: Legends of Azeroth

New Realms will opened for Expansion users only where the expansion changes are effected.

Character transfer to expansion realms from all realms will be permitted for all existing realms.

Expansion Realms Type.
PvP Conquest
PvP Normal
RP-PvP Conquest
Rp-PvP Normal
Normal
Rp

Experience Azeorth in whole new light. Experience whole new adventures, expanded areas, you'd hardly recognise it. Larger, more dangerous, more mysterious, the never-ending struggles of Azeroth take the next level to titanic porpotions.

The Level Cap has now been extended to 100. This will take place in two phases. First to 75, then later to 100

The Expansion also comes with an Audio-enabled program that allows players to speak to one another - you will need a microphone to communicate.

GAME EFFECTS:
Fully new implemented Weather System.

Rain, fog, mist, thunder storms, snow storm, sand storms, dust storms, wild fires, haze from heat all visible and dynamic with sound effects.

Random effects of winds. 7 degrees of winds from very light to very strong. Tree branches sway, in strong winds character movement can be slowed by as much 20%

Distinct climates worldwide from Constant winter, to temperate and Tropical

Player animation has changed accordingly:

Visible differences between wet and dry hair. Wind movements and strength affect hair.

Also clothes correspond to weather, cloth gets wet and looks drenched in rain whiles mail has a glossy sheen. Capes if visible, flap

Perspiration and sweat is visible on faces and clothes and takes shorter time to appear in Hot climates and days, a longer time at cooler periods and hardly ever in snowy climes..

Weather affects blow air rides like Gryphons off course, freak storms can materialise anywhere sending Ships off course.

Over 100 new player animations and visuals including 5 variations of each. in particular new /sing , /scream emotes.


[b]VISUAL AND AUDIO EFFECTS[b]
An audio visual pack has been added on 2 special CDS that contain the additions. Options exist to turn some of these on or off.

No less than 75 cut-scenes for quests and battle grounds. [Cut-scenes cannot be viewed if collecting or delivering a quest while still in a party]

Animations for over 500 quests

Speech implementation for ALL quests from NpCs

World topography has been refined to be clearer, mountains are for more varied, the thousand needles peaks for example look razor sharp and more versatile vegetation has been added.

You can sink in snow or sand

Running in water, snow, sand or dusty regions creates visible splashes and dust/sand/snow clouds.

Movement speed responds accordingly to analogue controls, and vibrations can be physically felt on appropriate controllers.

The music library has been severely expanded, no two areas will sound the same, instances have new exciting theme tunes characteristic of the instance. Even taverns have different music depending on what racial capital you are in, with audible laughter, ordering, shouts, fights taking place.

NpCs can be heard advertising there wares, children rushing from learning houses during the day, market places come alive and work places thrive. New sounds for throne-rooms of all racial leaders.


DAY & NIGHT

Day and Night are no longer uniform worldwide, night in Kalimdor is day on Azeroth: It is mid afternoon in westfall whiles late-afternoon - dusk in Quel'Thalas

Distinctly different luminosities for dawn, early morning, afternoon, late-afternoon, dusk, twilight , night.

Night luminosity varies from very dark requiring a light to see anything to starlight/moonlight night, or settlement light.

Time zones introduced around the world

NEW CLASSES

Dread knight [Horde or Neutral only]: Hybrid /Tank/nuker

Necromancer [Horde or Neutral]: Magical nuker/ summoner

Ranger [Alliance or Neutral]: Hybrid magical & Physical Ranged/Melee dps dealer

Spellbreaker[Alliance or Neutral]: Hybrid (DoT, buffer/de-buffer)

Mechanik [Any]: Magical & Mechanical utility/dealer

Amazon [Any]: Melee combatant Hybrid

Paladin [Alliance or Netural Only]
Shaman [Horde or Neutral Only]
The rest may belong to any faction

New classes have been added complete with a fully array of skills, abilities, and the customary three talent trees.
(Special Druid alteration: Tauren and Night ELf driuds are penalised for fighting each other.)

Because of the Faction system change, certain classes you select will make you unable to join certain factions

Certain racial types can never get along

Hero Classes
Four Categories of Hero Classes.

Tank Heroes

Healing Heroes

Magical Nuking Heroes

Melee Dps Hereoes

They are based on the four major roles each class can adopt.


Each class has been given Epic Spells and Abilities that are class specific once they become a Hero.


And they may learn some basic skills in the Hero Category they choose. For e.g. a Warrior in the Healing Hero classes does not just learn ways to recover through spirit enhancements only, but learns some healing ability to an extent he can even take on that role in part.


There are four special sects of Hero Classes for each category you can diversify in.

The Level Cap has now been extended to 100.

[pigz4brains]

More stuff to read.


NEW RACES
High Elf - Classes: Ranger, Spellbreaker, Amazon, Hunter, Warrior, Rogue, Mage, Warlock
Naga - Necromancer, Warrior, rogue, hunter, mage, priest, warlock.
Goblin: Mechanik, Amazon, Warrior, rogue, Mage, Hunter.
Dryad: Amazon, Ranger, Warrior, Priest, Druid, Hunter.

In Addition to what they have now.
Orc: Dread Knight, Necromancer, Amazon [Warrior, Shaman, Hunter, Rogue, Warlock]
Undead: Necromancer, Dread Knight [Warrior, Mage, Warlock, Rogue, Priest]
Human: Spellbreaker, Mechanik [Warrior, Rogue, Paladin, Priest, Mage, Warlock]
Night Elf: Ranger, Amazon [Warrior, Druid, Hunter, Priest, Rogue]
Troll: Necromancer, Amazon [Warrior, Hunter, Shaman, Rogue, Mage, Priest]
Tauren: Amazon [Druid, Shaman, Warrior, Hunter]
Dwarves: Mechanik [Paladin, Warrior, Hunter, Rogue, Priest]
Gnomes: Mechanik, Spellbreaker [Mage, Warlock, Warrior, Rogue]


Racial abilities receive 4 upgrades now, 1 at level 25, at 50, at 75 and at Level 100.


CHARACTER CUSTOMISATION

New Emotes

Added over 30 new facial types and variations for each race.

Added body type selection from gaunt thin to very fat (not available to all races and some classes)

Long periods of rested state or inactivity will cause a physical broadening of features, which will decrease incrimentally to your original body gait selection as you work through your rest state.

Default faction or neutral now selectable as choice.

Up to two new skills can be selected at start, some races can?t learn scertain skills, e.g. Tauren can?t climb trees.

NEW SKILLS

You can now learn to climb trees and mountains

Ride mounts

Fight with mounts

Swimming

Sprinting
Note some classes automatically have these skills from start. E.g. Night & High Elves have the climb tree ability, Dwarves the climb mountain, Undead Swimming.

You can now train running, swimming, riding and climbing skills to different degrees allowing faster movement, or able to climb more difficult areas, or swim faster and breathe under water longer

AREAS & TERRITORIES
New Areas
Dalaran [city & expanded Region]
Quel'Thalas [city & area on map]
Mount Hyjal [forest city & area]
Northrend [ Continental zone]
Southrend [continetal zone]
The Maelstrom
The Lairs of the Aspects
The Emerald Dream [The World in a totally new light-with some additional areas not available in the waking world]

Expanded Old Areas
World areas and Lost Areas.

Lost Areas

Random maze-like instances outdoors are generated every time you are declared as lost. You lose your marker spot on the map and your minimap goes blank. However instead of combating mobs, you must use intuition and find clues to help you out of them.


Every territory has a "lost" zone which is an external instance that resembles the area but which you cannot exit by simply walking to a fixed area. There is no sense of direction here, and you must find and use certain clues that will help you out.


You don't choose when to enter a "lost" area, you have a very high chance of being transported to the territories "lost" area by random exploration through that territory in particular areas you haven?t ?discovered? yet. Your chances of getting lost in an area are almost non-existent once you discover the area.


However discovery of an area now requires you to have been through over half it's area. The experience has been raised dramatically as well.


You are also deposited in a random lost area if the victim of a freak storm while on gryphon/wyvern/hippogrriff back or travelling by Ship or Zepphlin. You woudn?t be transported to an area half way across the world, however sometimes you can be blown well off course.


To exit the ?lost? zone you must complete certain tasks.

Existing Areas
[liMany outdoors areas have been expanded, some doubling in size, new settlements, dungeons and structures have been added.


Some new areas within old ones two have been added to accommodate new starting areas.


Specific detail has been given to houses, workplaces, taverns, shops. Visible tools and equipment can now be seen where appropriate. Workmen working. Shop items can now be seen displayed on walls and shelves but can still be selected via right clicking on the shopkeeper NPC.

Other World Area Changes

In addition to all areas being expanded to one degree or another - Major towns such as Southshore, Auberdine, Kharanos, Cross Roads, Ratchett, Bloodhoof Village, Razor Hill and more have been redsigned and expanded to look like towns rather than villages.


Stromgarde, Aeries Peak & Hinterlands, Stahnbrad in Alterac, Tauren Settlements in the Thousand Needles and Feralas as well as those zones have all been particularly extensively expanded. The Charred vale for example is partially Forested again, and partially burnt


A lot of attention to detail was given to Horde and Goblin areas with the trebling in size of Gadgetzan and Everlook, the addition of 2 new goblin towns of smaller size. Additional Orc settlements in the Barrens, with Night Elf and Tauren expanstions on Stone Talon Mountain.


Some neutral factions like the Argent Dawn and the Emerald Circle and others have been given settlement camps in their main areas of operation, and HQs in all major cities


A neutral Ogre town has been opened up in the expanded Tanaris. and the Theramore Isle human settlement has doubled in size and now stretches a greater distance into the marsh.


A rebel Silithid Hive in the Un'Goro crater, neutral, has been opened, with quests to do and repuatation to earn. The Crater's mountainous region has been expanded and a small neutral village has opened up in the north section.


Some Areas? level requirements of have been altered to accomodate the starting areas of Trolls & High Elves. Stone Talon Mountain has expanded to an Upper & Lower section, the Upper section accomdates the starting area for the Dryads.


The world has almost trebled in size with the many new additions and zones to facilitate moving around, it is now possible to purchase a mount from as early as level 5
At Level 40 you may acquire a battlemount, trainable in 8 differnet types of warfare.
What was considered an epic mount before the expansion is no longer
New Seahorse (can move on both land and sea) mount has been added for Naga. Treant Mounts for Dryads (The Dryad can assume a two legged shape for mounting, they look like nightelves but with leaves and twigs as hair and thorny claws for fingers), Mechanical Tin Shredders for Goblins.

It is now possible to train riding skills in any races racial mount, however, battlemounts have specific advantages for their native race, allowing them to boost racial abilities.


Special Gnome and Goblin transports are available in most cities towns and villages that assist direct transportation to nearby territories or areas within territories.


All cities and flight paths have been given multitude stables and hatcheries to emphasize the volume of transport available. Depending on server population and day times, varying numbers of flyers and mounts are spawned in the hatchery and stables

General Structural Customisation
Gates and Doors are closed at night time for most towns and cities except for night elven settlements where the opposite occurs, closing at day time. You may still go into shops at night, but after a certain time, you will have to knock on the closed door, and the shopkeeper may charge you extra, the opposite true for night elves.

[pigz4brains]

And again.....



CITIES
All cities have been expanded both internally and externally, many given underbellies and dungeons. NpC and shops have been detailed, the amount of NpCs increased tremendously. Cities now have themed activities, fairs and markets. Each City has a disntict activity Ranging From Gladiator Arena fighting to racing and Fishing where you may compete against members of your own faction and neutrals.

Also guards and engines have been increased and are all elite in every city. Beasts and racial related creatures having a bigger presence in the City.

Darnassus
Darnassus and the night elven kingdoms have been expanded. During the night, Darnassus, Auberdine, Astranaar and several new night elven towns come alive at night. Moonwells scattered all over glow, and new night elven specific activities can be found all over.
Darnassus has double in size, 4 new quarters added, new tree and marble homes.

Ogrimmar: New Stone structures have been added, and the cities size increased. All areas around expanded. Orcs have additional settlements and villages in Durotar and the Barrens

Thunderbluff now has an encampment at the base of the hill. And Mulgore has been expanded considerably, additional Tauren villages with quests, and renegade Bristleboar settlements too.

Ironforge: Iron forge has many new layers opened up beneath and above the entrance level areas. The Great forge has undergone a design upgrade, and though the greatest, is not the only one in the city.

Undercity: Has several entirely new sections, some in the ruined Lordaeron above. Others accessible only through tunnelled sewers that stretch north into Lordaeron

A second Night Elven city has been opened up in Mount Hyjal, it is also home to Furblogs and refugee blood elves. Details to follow as it is a high end-game level area.

Gnomeragan:
The Gnome capital city has been opened up and is now the starting area for Gnomes. It?s been fully fitted out, with new structures visible from outside, a main train station port, and looks once more like a city with homes, trading areas, Throne castle/lab for the tinker. A dungeon area etc.

The Zul'Farrak Dungeon has been redsigned as a City and is now the opening area for Trolls. The cities boundaries have been re-placed, now having part lie within the desert of tanaris, part in the Thousand Needles and another part in the lush mountains of the Un?Goro Crater. A starting area zone has been created in the expanded thousand needles area that almost triples in size leading directly into Mulgore.

High Elves now share a starting area with the Dalaran Humans. The region surrounding Dalaran has been greatly expanded to accommodate the new starting area and the expansion of South Shore and Alterac.

Goblins start in a new low level Island South of Booty Bay. Furblogs in Teldrassil which has also been extended.

Naga homecity is a partially submerged city just off an Island halfway between the Maelstrom and Kalimdor.

Stone Talon Peak Has been considerably expanded and serves as starting area for the Dryads. Dryads have a Capital Forest of the Mystic Vale in the area formerly none as the Charred Vale. Stone Talon mountain has been split into 2 halves, upper and lower, Upper Stone Talon mountain holds the Peak and the Vale, whiles lower Stone-Talon Mountain is a questing area ranging from level 10-20. Ventrue Co. quests in the area have dropped by 10 levels, and new additional quests added in the expanded area.

The Timbermaw Hold near Moonglade has been extensively expanded as a home for the Furbolgs..


Naga, Dryad, Night Elf and High Elf settlements have also been added to Azshara and Winterspring. Dryad forest plains added to Ashenvale and Teldrassil


Further Tauren & Orc settlements added to Feralas (with an additional nightelven one on the coast), Dustswallow Marsh. And Troll settlements in Tanaris and the Shimmering Flats


Other racial settlements and zones have been extended such as Centaur oasis in the Barrens and the Maraudine area. Also secret Satyr settlements have been added through out Northern Kalimdor from Desolace to Azhara, Bristle boar and Silithid hives in southern Kalimdor.

Transportation
All trains, ships and Zepphlins have fully manned NpC crews.

Alliance trams now start off in Gnomeragan.
Zepplins and Ships are now subject to be blown off course by freak storms stranding inhabitants on random islands where they can face challenges.

The Number of NpCs in towns and cities, settled areas has been greatly increased. Trade centres are visible for what they are, litter is evident in the human, Ogre, Troll and dwarven cities, with
cleanning crews seen tidying up at a fixed time each day after market closes.

PROFESSIONS


All professions have many new item additions to lower and post level 60

Maximum Skill extended to 500

Master & Legend ranks available all through special quests.

Mini Professions ? Jobs In need of money? Need a paid job? Many taverns, shopkeepers, librarians, farmers are now hiring where you can select anything from a 30mins ? 24hr shift of doing a job quest. For e.g. in taverns, you have to serve drinks or take food from the cook to tables [cities have been expanded considerably and details made to match], throughout your shift, you have to quell random disturbances and fights. Listen to tall tales ? or a farmer?s hand where you have a challenge to plough the field one shift, plant seeds another, weed a third, douse a fire or even repair his broken machine, if you?re not an engineer, you?ll need to find one quick or miss out on your payment.

4 new primary professions added and 1 Secondary

Several design changes to existing professions, on some gear, potions and devices you may customise what ability statistic or effect is applied by a slight variation of ingredients, for e.g. your chest piece may have Spirit instead of stamina by using green opals instead of red ones, +4 of 1 and +5 of the other instead of5/4 or 4/4 by having 4 green opals and 1 red.

Certain items can also have certain special abilities added to previously made or bought items if you are a Master or Legend, but you need to discover what does what, and sometimes bad combination can ruin a piece. A master alchemist can add an ingredient to an existing potion to add the effect of a size increase or turn into a skeleton. Or the Master Engineer add a red crystal to the bomb construction to give it a slow effect in addition

All manufacturing professions require the use of key tools, and animations have been added to each. For e.g. going to the forge to make leg piece will now animate the action of putting the ingredient on the anvil and raising the hammer to refine it, sparks may even fly on weapons where you visibly sing in oil/water tanks to cool after visibly heating in forge. The more complex the item, the more specialised a forge you may need. A tailor would need a sewing machine and items to make certain pieces and will be animated taking a seat and making the item in the time period. Items that can be tailored without can be made anywhere but will be animated as the PC will sit, take out a needle and cloth, and a sewing action ensue. Similar, some Alchemy or Engineering potions and devices require to go to a full lab in cities and stand at desks with equipment to make whiles others that don?t require, will have the animation simulated, you will see a vial being held the herb being crushed and ground, you pour some water into it the vial and swirl to make a potion. Some may require heat of a fire in which case you?d need to at least learn cooking enough to make one.
Making purple and rarer items now yields experience points.

[pigz4brains]

Once again.


GAME DYNAMICS

New Faction: Neutral - whiles not a faction as such it simply means unaffiliated with Horde or Alliance. The Steamwheedle Cartell and the Argent Dawn are neutral factions for example. Whiles Stormwind, Darnassus and Ironforge are Alliance Factions, the Hyjal Elves are Neutral, Thunderbluff, Ogrimmar and Zul?Farrak are Horde Factions, despite the fact that Taurens may start off neutral. Gnomeragan & Undercity are Alliance & Horde leaning factions.


You can now change faction affiliation. Only Human and Dwarves start off default as Alliance, and Orcs & Trolls defaulted as Horde and Goblins the Neutral Steamwheedle Cartell. The rest can choose between Neutral and Horde or Alliance. [Elves (night & High), Gnomes, are neutral and are free to join a faction after doing some basic quests in the major settlements of the faction.]. Whiles Humans are defaulted to Alliance, they can choose Neutral to start with, however becoming horde is as hard as it is for an Orc to become Alliance.


You may also be part of certain smaller factions such as the Argent Dawn, the Cenerarion & Emerald Circles, the Bloodsail Buccaneers and more.


The Horde and the Alliance are the two Main Factions the PvP Honour system and the Conquest system are based around. Neutral .


Rival factions that are at war with yours will be flagged as hostile in all territories you encounter them except in their territory where in the PvP game, you have the option of disabling PvP whiles in your factions territory or zone.



Quests

Added over 1500 additional quests and epic quests.

Many new race specific quests, and class specific quests.


Some quests can now only be taken and completed at certain times.


We have introduced a more dynamic system that spawns necessary numbers of mobs for quests that involve killing x number of mobs. Meaning that certain mobs you will only see one or two of if casually passing by (unless there are quests involving those types of mobs that demand otherwise). However if you have a quest that pertains to the mob in the area, an appropriate number are spawned as you approach the area, growing if you are accompanied. We found this did the following
[ul]
a) created the surprise factor for wandering adventurous who weren't on that quest,

b) gave a sense of completion to those who had finished a quest, afterall, if you are thinning the population of Gnolls in region x, you'd like to notice that you've had an effect, rather than see the whole lot respawned every time you pass.

c) This saved computer resources considerably and allowed appropriate numbers to be generated based on the number of people taking the quest who were in the specific are it spawned.

New 120-man titanic quests and battles have been introduced, this often have a racial leader and sometimes an army accompanying you. 120-man activities can link up to 3 full 40 man raids.


Miscellaneous quests and activities: Added to many cities and areas are activities you can partake in, such as Racing on tracks, or Tournaments in Arenas where spectators will gather to watch competitors, you will duel both PCs and NPCs and will have to progress to the last round to win. Each Capital city has a unique activity associated with it.


Some quests done in the original game have been replaced with new ones, for e.g. The Charred Vale being partially restored no longer has the old quests there, but new ones.

Battlegrounds
An additional 10 battlegrounds

Instances.
30 new instances added. Including level 75+ Instance for Uldan and Uldranan. Instances added at Northrend, Southrend, Hyjal, The Maelstrom, Quel?Thalas, Ferelas, Un-Goro, Dustswallow Marsh, Thousand Needles, under each capital city, Dalaran, Stranglthorn Vale, Duskwood, Badlands, Dun Morogh, Loch Modan, Arathi, Lordamere, Da?arsalan, Nagarathis. Spread through out the levels, a few original instances were closed such as Gnomeragan and Zul?Farrak.


Many Old Instances updated with new quests and new troubles


New type Realm : Conquest
Expanded Honour and Reptuation System!

[pigz4brains]

Hopefully the last one.


EXCLUISVE CONQUEST REALM SYSTEM
Conquest realms has a worldwide theme available. The aim is to gain control of 2/3 of all territories for your faction.

It's a side game that is intended to be done gradually and designed so that normal questing and game play can continue despite it. You must win over a territories to the faction you have allied yourself with.

The aim is to pvp in groups or raids. Go to a Capital City of a race allied to your faction. There you can speak to a battlemaster to begin the conquest. Note this must be done otherwise any fighting in settlements will not be regarded as official victories.

You win a territory over by conquering the opposing faction's settlements/towns or bases.

You conquer a settlement/town or base by first having selected it with the battlemaster, then proceeding with your party or raid to the town and eliminating all NPCs and players.

The battle is declared as started once your party attacks any NPC guard or opposing faction PC in the area. After starting, you have a certain period of time called the joining period to call re-enforcements to your group from fellow faction members in the area or abroad. After joining period is over any new member arriving in the area will not be able to engage in pvp battle in that area till the battle is over.

The battle is over when you've killed all NPC guards and all opposing faction PC members that were part of the fight.

To prevent endless fights, once battle has commenced for settlement, you are given up to 5 times to die. After five deaths within that battle, you are flagged off for pvp in that area entirely for the duration of the battle unable to attack/heal or be attacked. IF your faction loses the battle, you are flagged off for pvp in that area for 120mins, however the controlling faction can initiate a conflict with you.

Once you win a settlement, all opposing faction NPC guards are replaced with the your faction NPC guard. The race of the guards depends on what racial capital city you selected the conquest for. And your faction and racial flags are &&$%ed.

In conquered settlements, the beaten faction PCs may still enter freely to hand in quests and purchase goods with the non-guard npcs who still remain unchanged. However the victorious faction can now buy items from the conquered factions NPCs. The conquering faction PCs are not allowed to attack the conquered factions PCs and vice versa unless the battle to reclaim the town has commenced. This is ensured by the NPC guards attacking any PC who starts attacking an opposing member. That way, ganking should be prevented for the conquered faction PCs who need to enter the settlement to hand in quests and trade.

Your faction can win back a settlement by contacting the battle-master in the racial capital the conquered settlement belonged to. Then proceeding with you raid group and initiating the battle by right clicking on any NPC guard. This then starts up the battle timer once more.

Each settlement, town or base now has an NPC guard leader depending on it's size and strategic importance. A settlement cannot be claimed without eliminating this boss.

Only contested territories are controllable in this way. Your faction, must seize control of all enemy settlements before the territory is declared as belonging to your faction.

Once you control 2/3 of the world, the server server records a win and the faction scores will be displayed on a special page of the website. Also special items and money will be granted to all participants.

Anyone may participate in conquest at any time, how much reward and reputation you receive once the game has been won depends on how many conquests you participated in.

At a later date, we will expand this to include capital cities, the aim will extend to, once having conquered 2/3, you must then proceed to win a battle for a capital city. Each capital city would have a surrounding territory that isn't contested. You must win just one surrounding territory and then the battle for the capital city commence. You only need one capital city to win the game.

Reputation & Honour System Changes.
Reputation's importance has been increased for all factions and racial alliances. Each racial faction has a settlement and territory you can now gain reputation for.

You gain reputation by completing quests largely, once you are gain a pvp rank, and the "Honoured" reputation with the town or area, you can choose to become an enlisted defender of the settlement. You do this by speaking with the settlements NPC leader or magister, or if an area, a designated NPC in a neighbouring town or city. Some such NPCs you must actually look for. Some settlements like major towns or capital cities require a minimum PvP rank to become a defender.

Being a defender means you get visual and audible recognition from the townspeople whenever you interact, and as you move to "Revered & Exalted" that increases.

There is a PvP element to a defender, whenever the settlement or area you have chosen to defend is undergoing a Conquest battle, you are alerted wherever you are on Azeroth and given the option to immediately teleport to an area near the settlement or zone being fought for, and you must join the battle before it closes off.

Defending your settlement successfully raises your reputation most with the settlement, and also with the settlements' racial capital. You are also rewarded for fending off the invasion with money. The extent your reputation rises depends on how many successful kills you made, and how many of your five lives you did not spend.

Failure to answer the summons to defend will decrease your reputation and losing the battle will lower rep for all defenders.

When nearby towns are being fought for, defenders from surrounding areas who do not have a high enough pvp rank to be listed as a town defender, may also be called, they are not penalised for not answering the call however, they gain higher reputation with the town they help and with the settlement or area they are defenders off.

Conversely, higher ranked pvp-honoured members able to be called defenderse of the larger settlements, are not informed when lower settlements are under attack, however they can lose reputation if they are high enough in rank to become Territorial Defenders and they failed to assist. (however the amount lost is smaller)

Having an exalted reputation with an area or settlement allows you to ride the settlements mount type and for certain quests and tasks you may have an npc defender from that area accompany you. He follows you passively but can defend you, or in a manner similar to pets, you can direct him to attack hostile targets. However that is the extent of your control. He mounts up when you do on a mount of his own, or should you not have one, he works. The number of guards you can enlist from your town depends on your reputation.

Higher reputation now also opens up access to new quests and plots.


GUILD MANAGEMENT CHANGES
Guilds play a much larger role now. There are better customisation menus, allowing you to better structure your guild, add notes, plan events with the scheduler.

Due to the expansion of Capital cities and some towns, guilds are now permitted to buy a headquarter within a capital city or a town. However it does not come cheaply. Your guild flag of similar design to your tabard will be displayed over the building.

All guilds can now have a trading house accessible via an NpC in your guild house, or if you do not have one, the auction house in a capital city. You can access wares sold by all guilds via the auction house, where you can search items by guild, or by item type where the name of the guild selling will be displayed. Guild members can be afforded a discount by the guild that is set by the guild master or a guild officer he can designate as treasurer. Discount rates can be set per rank as well.

Guilds can gain special reputation with factions when they exclusively partake in conquest campaigns as a guild.

Build YOur Guild House.
The world structures change from time to time, certain areas in or near capital cities or HQ of the faction your guild is associated, can have a guild house build. Guilds can either rent empty properties in towns or cities, or alternatively pay for ones to be build in the surrounding area.

After paying a high price, you can select several designs of accomodationi for your guild, each area can only have designs similar to those of the town/city they make their chapter house. The larger the dwelling the more expensive.

Once done, thhe request submitted to the GM HQ in the area, a structure would be &#&$%ed in after the weekly maintenance scheduled. Certain areas can reach a limit of new buildings, however there are many areas worldwide near towns and villages and faction HQs that we have provided sufficient land area for guild structures. Should an area be full near one town or city, then try another. [there are enough areas to cater for the maximum population of a realm players to each have a house - while this is not possible on an individual basis, we may seek to implement it later]


You recover rest state in your guild house and can have your hearthstone set to it.


New Item Types:
Ring slot has been expanded to five.
Items now have a weight factor that you cannot exceed even if you haven't used up all your slots.
Strength ability now directly increases that.

[ryucross]

Its bullsh!t.

[pigz4brains]

Like I said at the beginning. "Its probably not true". But I got a kick out of reading it.

[Takuto]

I got the gear i wanted- all shadow craft except gloves and boots iam using blood guard gloves and boots. Now iam just doing mc-were up to domo. and in zg we beat the 4th boss the other day.

[pigz4brains]

More WoW expansion rumors :) Found at Azzor.com. Its a translation from an Italian magazine.


One year since its release on the US market, many World of Warcraft players seek information on the first, inevitable expansion. To answer these questions, the Californian software house is preparing an event for their fans on the 28th and 29th of October -- “Blizzcon”, where Blizzard will reveal the details on World of Warcraft’s future. But the TGM readers already know...

We were kindly invited by Vivendi to visit Blizzard offices, where we had the chance to preview “The Burning Crusade”, the first World of Warcraft expansion that will somehow revolutionize this bestseller game.

First of all, the background: Sargeras, the corrupted Titan that represents the worst evil in the WoW universe, a being that has always intended to destroy all the universe, ever since beginning his work has never encountered any obstacle and has not stopped except for the resistance on Azeroth(that is both the region, the continent, and the planet). His actual plan for now is to ignore this place, and concentrate on the Outland. This is the name given to the remains of the planet Draenor, the original planet of the Orcs, which floats in an endless emptiness and grant access to the Twisting Nether, a sort of parallel dimension that allow access to every plane of existance in the universe. It’s clear that a resource like this, a “node” for invading all worlds ia extremely appealing to Sargeras' demonic forces, and it is here that Azeroth's forces will be called upon, the only ones that have shown the ability to combat the Titan and his followers, Archimonde and Kil’Jaeden.

All the expansion will be centered on the Outland, Medivh and the Dark Portal, to expand on the most important story of World of Warcraft. Beyond Outlands, two new dungeons will be introduced on Azeroth(the planet), strictly tied to characters and events encountered in the expansion. The first will be presented in detail at Blizzcon (it will be possible to play with it) and it will be probably be a 5 character instance – but it’s still being decided – situated in Kharazan, Medivh’s tower, found in Deadwind Pass (between Duskwood and the Swamp of Sorrows). From the descriptions received and the short tour that we have observed we know that it will quickly evolve from the “classic undead instance” to something stranger, where players will encounter the numeous results of Medivh's magical experiments.

Much more unusual will be the Caverns of Time, a raid instance in Tanaris that will allow players to travel in time and participate in the most important events in the history of Azeroth, from the opening of the Dark Portal by Medivh, Thrall's liberation from slavery and the mythologic battle of Mount Hyal (seen in Warcraft III) when the forces of humans, orcs and elves united in battle to defeat Archimonde. All this is possible because the Caverns of Time is the place where bronze dragons, headed by Nordozmu, control the stream of time.

Tecnically the dungeon can be expanded in the future to allow players to visit other important moment of the WoW story.

This news is expected: the surprise comes with the levelcap being raised to 70. (Here is a little editor's comment about the exp lost at lvl 60 for quest done and experience not earned).

Although Hero Classes are not yet announced (in the words of Rob Pardo, Vice President of Game Design “if we make a mistake with Hero Classes we can definitely ruin the game”), Blizzard has not denied that they could be included in the expansion but they have not promised it. Other game like Everquest, with Alternate Advancement muffin, and Daoc with Master Level has shown how this player evolution can be very complicated.

The second great news is that both the factions will have a new race (though no new class). Because one of the reasons Alliance have more player than Horde seems to be tied to an aesthetic reason(Horde races are “ugly”): Orcs, Trolls, Taurens and the Forsaken will be joined by the Blood Elves -- a little smaller than their cousin, they are dedicated to magic in its darker form and dependent on it. The Blood Elves will probably be Mages, Warlocks and Warriors, though it’s not certain if they can be Rogues or Hunters. At the moment they have a racial trait called Mana Tap that slowly drains mana from enemies, this can be applied multiple times, like sunder armor. This will power a second ability called “Arcane Torrent”(but the head of development, Kaplan, continued to call it “Arcane Torment") that works like an area of affect silence spell. This left us a little surprised because it seems a little unbalanced, even against a warrior, but it's too early to speak about it, because the release date next year is still far off and many things will surely be changed.

The characterization of the race is most interesting, with a starting area that is very light and sunny but also frightful with many signs of magic used for frivolous purposes -- deformed plants, palaces floating in the air, and strange crystals containing demons imprisoned to take advantage of their energies. The actual “home” of Blood Elves is what remains of Quel’Thalas, found north of the Eastern Plaguelands, beyond a valley currently sealed by a stack of logs. It will be composed of 3 zones: Eversong Woods with the capital city Silvermoon, Ghostland, and Zul’Aman, a region inhabited by trolls that could host or become a new thematic dungeon like Zul’Farrak and Zul’Gurub.

The new Alliance race has not been announced and will probably be announced a short time after Blizzcon, but we can always make a hypothesis: thinking the “beautiful race” is going to the Horde and looking at all chances, nothing can prevent us from thinking about Pandaren, introduced originally as “april fools” and then incorporated truly in Warcraft III (this can be more than a supposition, but it's better to stop here..).

There's more: there will be a new profession called Jewelcrafting, we don’t know if this will make it possible to forge ring, amulets or trinkets, but for sure it will be possible to craft gems to insert in “sockets” found in armor and weapons, like in Diablo2. Blacksmiths, tailors and leatherworkers can craft items with sockets in them to hold gems made with this profession.

Here Toso(a TGM reviewer) still complains of the inability to craft staves: but it is possible that Jewelcrafting is not the only profession added in the expansion and things can still change before release.

Continuing with the news about Outlands, they will be divided in many regions, from rocky and devasted Hellfire Peninsula to the forests of Zenga Marsh, one of the few zones of Draenor saved from destruction. The most interesting news for the lore freaks out there is that in one of these regions, Shadowmoon Valley, players will find the Black Citadel where Illidan resides, the true “boss" of the zone.

Even though only Arthas is capable of stopping the ex demon hunter(seen in Warcraft III and expansion) players who reach level 70 still have hard trials to face. However, they can count on many new resources, including the long-awaited flying mounts: responding to thousands of player requests, Blizzard has decided that players that reach level 70 can put their hands, at the end of a long and hard quest, on a flying mount that can be used only in Outland, using the “floating islands” found in the region.

There is no news about the engine, although it seems the Blood Elf models will have 20% more polygons compared to “old” race models. The graphics should be redone in the following months with the introduction of atmospheric effects but the rest should remain the same. Blizzard is also experimenting with various tricks (like Specular Environment Mapping) to improve the look in general. They are concentrating more on the content though -- the graphic engine always has time to be changed. Additionally, players can expect to be able to play "cross-server" Battlegrounds, that can be participated in by players from all realms, a thing that theoretically will bring the end of the queue system.

Anticipate more information in the coming month, especially regarding the new Alliance race (we've given our idea).

[Veritas]

I found this information hard to believe, so I'm gonna go ahead and say that it is complete BS. :naughty:

[Rahxephon91]

its preatty much well know that its most likly the truth.

[pigz4brains]

I found this information hard to believe, so I'm gonna go ahead and say that it is complete BS. :naughty:

Ahem......

WoW expansion (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/burningcrusade/)

[Malon]

Wow. Blood Elves look sexy. ;) I might not be able to resist the urge of making one when the expansion comes out. And the more I keep seeing pictures of male blood elves I get a little......:wub:

[The Loner]

Wow, 6/8 Wildheart, have had this for about a month now.

This is seriously pissing me off. 20 UD Strath runs now, never seen Kilt even DROP. Friend got Skullforge Reaver and Cape of the Black Barron in about 6 runs, which are about 1/5 the drop rate of that.

Good god.

Possibly joining one of the best guilds on my server soon though. Shall see.

[Gray]

i hears that this was coming to the xobx 360. maybe just a rumor though

[Jon]

i hears that this was coming to the xobx 360. maybe just a rumor though


You heard it was coming to the 360? Even if it did, have fun trying to play WOW with a controller :rolleyes: