Battle Of The Century:Evangelion Vs Gundam

[Citizen V.I]

Over time,fans have wondered about such a event.Eventhough it will never happen officially,fans often compair atributes on both the Eva and the Gundam.To see who would win in an all out free for all battle.They have their strong points,and weaknesses.Who would win?

http://img2.uaih.net/474/tn_EvaGundam1.jpg (http://img2.uaih.net/show.php?img=EvaGundam1.jpg&d=474)

[Headcrab]

Evangelion, because the characters are way better developed, the mech action isn't as choppy and is quite fluid, and further more, better storyline

[TekkamanEvil]

Er.....Incomparaible? Both series use way too different technologies. I mean what do you do with the whole AT field thing?

If you look at sheer firepower though, a gundam should blow away an Eva unit. All they have are knives and single weapons. Plus they can only fight for about 3 minutes or something. Gundams have been equiped with all sorts of weapons from nukes to giant lasers guns and small attack satelites called bits that move according to the will of the pilot. Plus Gundams have actual shields. Eva's if you remember that episode had to jerryrig a shield.

NOW IF YOU WANT A GOOD FIGHT MAKE IT AN EVA UNIT VS THE BIRD HUMAN IN MACROSS ZERO. THATS SIMILAR!

[Levon]

Uh.....isn't this not fair since its in the Gundam forum?


Evangelion, because the characters are way better developed, the mech action isn't as choppy and is quite fluid, and further more, better storyline

Well I highly disagree with that. I thought Evangelions main flaw for me was its characters. The mecha battles are nothing special, there not intense like Zeta Gundam, 0083, 0080, CCA battles. Better storyline than what? Theres many Gundam with many diffrent storylines.

What Gundam are you comparing Evangelion to? <_<

[Citizen V.I]

Its the overall view.However,when Gundam and Eva fans spar off.Its usually Heero Yuy vs Shinji.

Gundams usually have a edge on a eva,except for a fact.It may be old,but some gundam series make notions to a nuclear powered core.While the eva has a batterypowered unit.Another advantage is gundams can fly,for the most part.While the Eva is mostly land based.

[TekkamanEvil]

^

So Shinji vs Herro? Herro will wipe the floor with Shinji then. That guy is not human. He just can't die! Plus the Wing Gundams are too invincible for the EVAs to do anything. One shot from the Wing Zero and BOOM bye bye Shinji.

[Bernard_Monsha]

Couldn't a smart pilot like Char or Amuro shoot through the umbelicus on an Eva then wait for it's power to run out then close in for the kill?


If it was Heero vs Shinji i would hope they both die

[RacingManiac]

And Eva made a parody reference to nuclear powered mecha with its Jet-Alone...

Anyhow though, EVA is a great series, but its ultimately being quite different focus to Gundam. Gundam is like a war saga for the most part, human with weapon fighting other human with weapon. While Eva focuses on fighting mythical monsters, but with a more dramatic twist...Gundam IMO has more of that "gritty realism" feel to it....

Mecha to Mecha, on the most part I think the heavily armed Gundam will win, although they'd have to figure out a way to kill something like Eva 01....

[Levon]

It depends on what Gundam your talking, the super robots in G Gundam could beat an EVA I'm sure.

[TekkamanEvil]

Yea plus the EVAs are specialized units. They were consturcted to fight the angels. If you use them for normal combat then they will have no chance against a war machine like a gundam.

In fact if you had an EVA fight an EVAish unit like the Rahxephon, it would still lose, because they were not built for that purpose.

[RedTail]

"Who will wins" threads suck... Abstain.

[xFANCY_MOOSEx]

"Who will wins" threads suck... Abstain.

Agreed, and hey man, there was already a thread about this awhile back, and it lead to controversity, in fact, it used the same picture and posed the same question.

So, I'll say the answer again, it's the Wing Gundam because it can fly, and it has an almost limitless amount of power, and the Eva can only last two minutes, or has to be connected to that cord, but if the Eva didn't have that constraint, the Eva would dominate

[Prons]

Robot Sonic The Hedgehog would.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v486/PronsX/Metal_Sonic_CD_1.jpg

[Fobb]

i would have to say gundam, cause they arent restrained, and if the evangelion is away to much from its power source it powers down

[Leader Desslock]

Who would I *want* to win? Gundam, just so I could bask in the shocked expression of the EVA fanboys. Plus, I prefer the classics and hate Shinji more than Amuro Ray.

What would I prefer happen? I'd like the EVA-Gundam fight to take place on an otherwise lifeless planet that's being used for testing by the EDF for their new make of Wave Motion Gun. Just about the time that Amuro Ray steps down out of the Mobile Suit to acknowledge his victory, I'd like the Yamato and the rest of the fleet to open fire. It would be nice to catch that split second of newtype precognition of doom on Amuro's face, if possible.

[Solid-Snake]

Evangelion, because the characters are way better developed, the mech action isn't as choppy and is quite fluid, and further more, better storyline
Better developed???? :lol: that made my day. But, seriusly have you even seen Gundam before? if so wich ones?
I voted Gundam would win 'cause its true.

[Levon]

http://img2.uaih.net/474/tn_EvaGundam1.jpg (http://img2.uaih.net/show.php?img=EvaGundam1.jpg&d=474)


That image is off:lol: The Wing Zero is not that big. A Gundam around a EVA's size would be a Psycho Gundam I think.

[Blue Thunder]

yeah, it doesn't seem fair to be posted here.
Evangelion, because the characters are way better developed, the mech action isn't as choppy and is quite fluid, and further more, better storyline

...:lol: Exactly what Gundam have you seen? (edit: did you see G-Savior or something?)

Anyway, I'd pay good money to see Kamille beat the stuffin' out of ol' Shinji. I'm talking with no mecha now. Something like a cage match.

Now are we talking one Gundam verse one Eva or what? Even so, just take something air borne, like Victory Gundam for example, fly up and zap the power cord with the beam cannon. Just wait a few minutes, then hack away.

[Levon]

The AT field will be the main problem. But I don't think an EVA could even touch a Gundam, most are so fast & can attack long range. The angels weren't that fast & such a small target.

[Gaizokubanou]

Everyone talks about shooting the cord... HAS ANYONE WATCHED EVA EPISODE 19(or 20, can't remember the number for sure but the one where eva 01 gets S2 engine)?! Eva 01 didn't even had to touch to kill an enemy that survived a nuclear blast...

[Hellmaster Inu]

Who would I want to win?

The Gundams of course.

Who is going to win?

Unfortunately the Evas.

Why you ask? Let's see, for one, I think the Evas are probably bigger than most of the normal sized Mobile Suits and Gundams. I'm guessing the Psyco Gundam from Zeta is on about the same size as one of the Evas like Levon said. Two, the Evas have the AT-Field, which the Gundams don't, and we all remember that according to NGE, the Angels couldn't be destroyed by normal weapons because of the AT-Field. I'm guessing the same applies to the Evas. Three, is it or is it not true that the Evas could break through the AT-Fields, while I doubt a Gundam/Mobile Suit Pilot or unit would be able to do the same thing.

[RacingManiac]

AT field could be breached with a single point blast at "relatively close" range with a positron beam, ie how the 5th Angel was defeated. In Seed, Launcher Strike, and Freedom both have positron cannon....plus the battle ship like the Minerva and the Archangel also have their positron cannon...

As I said though, regular Eva is not an issue, but 01 is a problem with its S2 engine and ability to regenerate and operate without coord, and its not exactly slow moving target neither. In a melee Eva have the sheer size and possibly speed advantage...

[Sharp-kun]

My first instinct is to go "not again" and lock this.

They are completely different styles of mechs. Gundams are not designed the same way, or with the same purpose as an Evangelion. These are mechs that shrug off nuclear explosions and fight giant monsters, against stylised tanks.

The fact that none of the AU Gundam series give proper stats for the machines also makes objective comparison impossible, and no UC Gundam MS has the power ouptut to win (and I include the Turn A here - any kind of defensive field will shrug off Moonlight Butterfly).

Its the same as asking "who would win? Neue Ziel or Shin Getter 1". It's silly to even do so.


AT field could be breached with a single point blast at "relatively close" range with a positron beam, ie how the 5th Angel was defeated. In Seed, Launcher Strike, and Freedom both have positron cannon....plus the battle ship like the Minerva and the Archangel also have their positron cannon...
Utterly meaningless, as you have no canon power rating for those weapons. "Its a positron cannon" gives no scale of its output.

[Alexei]

Agreed, and hey man, there was already a thread about this awhile back, and it lead to controversity, in fact, it used the same picture and posed the same question.

So, I'll say the answer again, it's the Wing Gundam because it can fly, and it has an almost limitless amount of power, and the Eva can only last two minutes, or has to be connected to that cord, but if the Eva didn't have that constraint, the Eva would dominate

Damn right it did! I'm the one who made it and NOBODY answered the question I asked. They ignored my post, and just said "These threads suck."

So i'm doing the same.

These threads suck.

EDIT: But since Sharp-kun didn't lock it, I suppose i'll answer...

My precious NZ-000 Quin Mantha will win. 30 bits will tear up their power cord so fast... When it's defenseless, it'll just fire its chest-mounted Twin Mega Particle Cannon into the Eva and the fight will be over. :D

I vote neither. Quin Mantha ain't a Gundam, but it eats Gundams for breakfast. :smokin:

[Sharp-kun]

So, I'll say the answer again, it's the Wing Gundam because it can fly, and it has an almost limitless amount of power,
It has 3 shots in the rifle, which fires a beam that's easy to dodge for anything with agility.

Other than that it has vulcans and a sabre. Thats no better than a GM.

[Sharp-kun]

My precious NZ-000 Quin Mantha will win. 30 bits will tear up their power cord so fast... When it's defenseless, it's got 50 or so Beam Cannons on its body, as well as a pair of Beam Sabers. So yeah. Eva is screwed. :smokin:
Whats to stop the Eva shreadding it in the time after the cable goes? What if the Eva moves even after the power is gone (as 01 did several times, and 02 did in EoE)? The Quin Mantha does not have the output to breach an AT-Field.

[Alexei]

Whats to stop the Eva shreadding it in the time after the cable goes? What if the Eva moves even after the power is gone (as 01 did several times, and 02 did in EoE)? The Quin Mantha does not have the output to breach an AT-Field.

When a question is asked like this, I base my answer as if the fight went on in the SRW games. Anything can be beaten, you just have to be on the side of Justice, or be a much higher level than your opponent, and all of his/her escorts. :P

So yeah, my Quin Mantha can tear an Eva to bits and pieces. ^_^

[Sharp-kun]

When a question is asked like this, I base my answer as if the fight went on in the SRW games. Anything can be beaten, you just have to be on the side of Justice, or be a much higher level than your opponent, and all of his/her escorts. :P
But EVA-01 is also on the side of justice.

So yeah, my Quin Mantha can tear an Eva to bits and pieces. ^_^
Maxed out stats EVA-02 owns it.

Speaking of which, maxed Ryukooh with Kusuha's melee stat at its max is pretty much invincible. The joy of your 5th replay game.

[MagicianCamille]

Evangelion's AT Fields can't be breached by any weapon any Gundam show has ever shown except the Super Natural weapons like Zeta's Sword of Rage/Wave Rider Crash, ZZ's HI-Mega Cannon with the fanvy Biosensor on, V Gundam's Wings of Light and Turn A Gundam's moonlight butterfly would shred an Eva.


But I think God Gundam would tear through that Eva with it's God FInger, or Tenyouken Seikiha.


Evangelion, because the characters are way better developed, the mech action isn't as choppy and is quite fluid, and further more, better storyline

....Are you joking? Shinji is a candidate for worst anime character ever, he sits arounds and whines all the time, he has a stereotypical relationship with everybody in the show, and it takes him all of the series to develop. (CONGRATULATIONS!)

Asuka was a cool character...for 5 episodes.....until that line: "Why did you have to die mother?" or something rather, then she turned into the usual melo-dramatic bitch that nobody likes, oh wait, she has boobs, so everyone likes her.

Rei had some chances at turning into an actual character, but then..Rei 2? Rei 3? What the hell?

Touji, Kensuke, and Pen Pen were great characters, but ya know what Hideaki Anno did with them?


Touji: Got a chance to pilot an Eva, but then the Eva got infected and he was injured severely, and the Eva was destroyed, oh well, it's not like this show NEEDS some freshening...................yeah it does.....


Kensuke didn't really do too much, it would have been great to see him pilot Eva 04.

Pen Pen's character was handled well, nice to see Hideaki Anno do something right with one character, the penguin.

Stop using Gundam Wing as your source, Universal Century Gundam, Cosmic Era Gundam, Turn A Gundam, G Gundam, and GUndam X all had great characters, a very interesting plot, it wasn't pointless mecha action, they were true war stories dealing with war and how it affects people.



I don't see how building a few giant robots(Oh, I mean humans. -_-) to fight an Alien invasion(You can say they aren't aliens, but I personally don't care) is a better storyline. Hideaki Anno throws in some symbols and goes into a deep depression, and because of that, his series is labeled a masterpiece. -_-

And let's not forget the worst movie on the face of the planet, (Remembers Five Star Stories) errr, second worst, End of Evangelion. It was an hour and a half of "......What?"

I pick Gundam in these scenarios:



Zeta Gundam(BIosensor On) Vs. any of the EVAs.

ZZ Gundam(Bio Sensor On) Vs. Any of the Evas.

V2 Gundam(Wings of Light) Vs. Any of the Evas.

Turn A Gundam(Moonlight Butterfly) Vs. Any of the Evas.

God Gundam(Hyper Mode) Vs. Any of the Evas.

And by the way, Heero Yuy wouldn't stand a chance against an Eva, I don't see his Twin Buster Rifle being effective against an AT Field.

[NeonZ]

V Gundam's Wings of Light and Turn A Gundam's moonlight butterfly would shred an Eva.

There's nothing super natural about those two. It's necessary a highly concentrated energy attack in order to piece through the AT field, the Moon light Butterfly isn't even an energy attack...


Shinji is a candidate for worst anime character ever, he sits arounds and whines all the time, he has a stereotypical relationship with everybody in the show, and it takes him all of the series to develop. (CONGRATULATIONS!)
Actually, that was the reason I liked him. You could see him changing through the series(Remember the "this is a man's job!" episode?), yet, he always ended up destroyed when he was getting better, and going back to a situation as bad as, or worse than, his initial one... That's what separates him from just an Amuro clone.

[Sharp-kun]

Turn A Gundam's moonlight butterfly would shred an Eva.
No, as nanomachines would fry on contact with an AT Field. This goes for any similar sort of defence.

The Moonlight Butterfly is horribly overhyped. Its not unbeatable.

[Citizen V.I]

Both the Gundam and Evangelion have strong points,and strong weaknesses.Ill put them up..

Gundam
Strengths-Flight,Armor protection,fast manoverability,vulcan gun terrets on the gundam`s forehead,weapon equipable,self destruct mode.
Weaknesses-Overheating[this feature may have been cut out of the more recent gundam series]

Evangelion
Strengths-Super strength,Agility,AT Field,Regeneration.
Weaknesses-Pain[if the eva feels it,the pilot feels it]battery cord,limited range.

If i made some mistakes,please correct me.

[ShmooZeroOmega]

Ideon would win ^_^

[ChuChuX3]

Do Huckebeins count? The creator also created some Gundams too...I doubt Fang Slasher or Cross Saber would do any good, but what about the BST gun? Black Hole Cannon?

[KT Kore]

Goku would win.

[Sendo Takeshi]

Its the overall view.However,when Gundam and Eva fans spar off.Its usually Heero Yuy vs Shinji.

Gundams usually have a edge on a eva,except for a fact.It may be old,but some gundam series make notions to a nuclear powered core.While the eva has a batterypowered unit.Another advantage is gundams can fly,for the most part.While the Eva is mostly land based.



Well. It is a nucleared power core. Therefore if the precious EVA even touches it , then everyone is screwed at that point seeing as how a Gundam being destroyed leaves quite an impact. Remember when Amuro first took out Genes Zaku 2 in the first few episodes of Mobile Suit Gundam? The explosion was enough to level anything in a good distance.

[ShmooZeroOmega]

Well. It is a nucleared power core. Therefore if the precious EVA even touches it , then everyone is screwed at that point seeing as how a Gundam being destroyed leaves quite an impact. Remember when Amuro first took out Genes Zaku 2 in the first few episodes of Mobile Suit Gundam? The explosion was enough to level anything in a good distance.

Actually, a mobile suit's reactor will only explode all Nuclear-ishly if a beam weapon penetrates the reactor.

[Alexei]

I'll tell you who won't win. Better yet, let the picture tell you.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/cottontail777/1110244911215.gif

I still say my Quin Mantha would put some serious hurt on an Eva...

[Bernard_Monsha]

No, as nanomachines would fry on contact with an AT Field. This goes for any similar sort of defence.

The Moonlight Butterfly is horribly overhyped. Its not unbeatable.

Wouldn't the Monlight butterfly eat everything else around the Eva and cause it to run on batteries? I thought the AT field had to have massive amounts of power to run, of course it has been a while since I watched Eva.

Of course we all know Gigantor and Mazinger Z would kick the hell out of the Eva's and all Gundams from all series anyway

[MagicianCamille]

Of course we all know Gigantor and Mazinger Z would kick the hell out of the Eva's and all Gundams from all series anyway


Good thing this thread is about Mazinger Z and Gigantor....oh wait....no it isn't.


And Shin Getter Robo would destroy everything. >.>

[NeonZ]

Of course we all know Gigantor and Mazinger Z would kick the hell out of the Eva's and all Gundams from all series anyway

I bet that even the RX-78 could beat Mazinger Z without the scrander.

Wouldn't the Monlight butterfly eat everything else around the Eva and cause it to run on batteries?
Yes, but Evas have moved without energy(Unit 01 every time it was necessary, and Unit02 in EoE).

Well. It is a nucleared power core. Therefore if the precious EVA even touches it , then everyone is screwed at that point seeing as how a Gundam being destroyed leaves quite an impact. Remember when Amuro first took out Genes Zaku 2 in the first few episodes of Mobile Suit Gundam? The explosion was enough to level anything in a good distance.
Huh...? A point blank N2 mine did no damage to Eva-00. This wouldn't be any different.

That said, I'm still annoyed that no one mentioned the Double X's Twin Satellite Cannon... Too bad there's no power output, so we don't know if it could break an AT field...

[Sharp-kun]

I bet that even the RX-78 could beat Mazinger Z without the scrander.
I don't think so. Koji has burning passion.


That said, I'm still annoyed that no one mentioned the Double X's Twin Satellite Cannon... Too bad there's no power output, so we don't know if it could break an AT field...
The main problem with the cannon is that its incredibly easy to predict.

[Gaizokubanou]

I can't believe so many ppl are putting up the argument that gundams will win by destroying the power cord... do they even bother reading the responses here?

When eva 01 fought that ball shaped enemy, whatever it did is totally unmeasurable. Power like that would be able to top almost any conventional weapons.

Goku would win.

LOL so true.

[Levon]

But how could an EVA destroy a Gundam if it can't touch it, a Gundam could be like a fly buzzing around an EVA & it couldn't touch it & a Gundam can just pick a way at it at a long range. Gunam's are much faster than angels which were mostly slow. But like I said the main problem for a Gundam would be the AT Field.

In the end they might just be a draw where the EVA can't hit a Gundam & the Gundam can't get through the AT field :lol:

[Gaizokubanou]

But how could an EVA destroy a Gundam if it can't touch it, a Gundam could be like a fly buzzing around an EVA & it couldn't touch it & a Gundam can just pick a way at it at a long range. Gunam's are much faster than angels which were mostly slow. But like I said the main problem for a Gundam would be the AT Field.

In the end they might just be a draw where the EVA can't hit a Gundam & the Gundam can't get through the AT field :lol:

true, but from seeing how high unit 02 jumped in EOE, and how unit 01 killed an enemy that survived a direct hit from neuclear blast without even touching it, I think MS won't be safe unless they are in like Mars(basically if MS's weapons can reach Eva, I would think Evas can reach the MS).

Also the timeline for the MS would matter a LOT. OYW MS wouldn't last that much, while later ones(like Crossbone Vanguard MS from 123, the smaller new generation MS) would be able to dodge a lot of stuff.

[Blue Thunder]

Okay if we go with the Eva moving on it's own (which only happens in extreme circumstanses) can we also assume that Kamille can just start fighting like he did at the end of Zeta?

Goku always wins. If I've learned anything in anime, that is it. :lol:

[Korozo Ronah]

The AT field is no problem what so ever. The Variable Speed Beam rifles on the Gundam F91 were made to penetrate shield. Plus the Eva is a big target, a very big target. And MS weapons can out range those of the Eva. The maximum range an Eva can hit a target unassisted seems to be 2km. Now see a UC 0079 beam cannon on Sander's Gundam hit a Zaku at 10 klicks or about 5 - 6 km. And the beam weapons just get better in later Gundam series.

The Eva couldn't get close enough fast enough to do anything. It's useless as a weapon.

[C_U_P]

It seems the general consesus is that Gundam would win. But I can gaurentee you that if this thread was in the hands of a few Eva fan-children, Gundam would be dead three times over. Why you ask? Eva's melodrama would choke it to death. ^_^

[Sharp-kun]

The AT field is no problem what so ever. The Variable Speed Beam rifles on the Gundam F91 were made to penetrate shield..
Thats for I Fields. AT Fields are completely different, and are far, far stronger.

[MagicianCamille]

The two can't be compared, Eva's are giant humans(Or so that's the latest theory), and aren't really realistic as Mechs at all, it's a Super Robot...Human?

[Vaikyuko]

true, but from seeing how high unit 02 jumped in EOE, and how unit 01 killed an enemy that survived a direct hit from neuclear blast without even touching it, I think MS won't be safe unless they are in like Mars(basically if MS's weapons can reach Eva, I would think Evas can reach the MS).

Also the timeline for the MS would matter a LOT. OYW MS wouldn't last that much, while later ones(like Crossbone Vanguard MS from 123, the smaller new generation MS) would be able to dodge a lot of stuff.

In reality, the EVA Series (not referring to the harpies, but all of them) all can, if synched well enough, fly. It doesn't matter the jump height, or whatever. The harpies can only fly due to their AT Fields, same with EVA-01 in EoE.

In reality, I personally think Gundams might have a good bit of trouble with the Evas, no matter what era, but eventually could overpower them through:
A) Sheer numbers (only 13 EVAs in total)
B) Insane, absurdly powerful weaponry (WZC's Twin Buster, anyone?)
C) No "activation limit" per se (EVAave the 5 min battery)

Certainly I'd expect that the EVA Series could easily destroy most of the OYW mecha, but I doubt they could take on Wing and SEED's powerful Gundams. Maybe they could take down some of the "weaker" MS, like in Wing's case, the Virgo, Mercurius, and Vayeate.

I highly doubt that they'd go down without a fight. Well, most of them: EVA-04 never fought, and the harpies played dead for a little while.

[CrossboneGundam]

A Gundam is small enough compared to an Eva that it could easily fall into one of the many Eva plot holes scattered about. Or maybe Char would find a way to bitchslap Shinji like he does Camille, which would send Shinji running off in tears. Then he would sit on a bus for two days staring at his hand because his dad doesn't love him.

[MagicianCamille]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Levon]

I'd like to see the God Gundam would use its God Finger up the EVA's *** :P

[Hellmaster Inu]

Or maybe Char would find a way to bitchslap Shinji like he does Camille, which would send Shinji running off in tears.

I would pay to see that. :P

I'd like to see the God Gundam would use its God Finger up the EVA's *** :P

I'd pay to see that as well. O_o

[CrossboneGundam]

I would pay to see that. :P

I heard Quattro did actually bitchslap Shinji in a Super Robot Wars game, though i'm not sure about it at all. Could just be a joke or a rumor. But it's certainly not out of the question.

[MagicianCamille]

I'd like to see the God Gundam would use its God Finger up the EVA's *** :P


Levon and I share the same fetish.

[Sharp-kun]

I heard Quattro did actually bitchslap Shinji in a Super Robot Wars game, though i'm not sure about it at all. Could just be a joke or a rumor. But it's certainly not out of the question.
Pretty much every character did. Tetsuya did at one point in Alpha.

[CrossboneGundam]

Pretty much every character did. Tetsuya did at one point in Alpha.

I would have known that if there were a dialogue translation! Or maybe i'm just deaf to punching sound effects and never notice Quattro or Tetsuya looking angry and then Shinji moping or shrieking like a baby...

At any rate, Gundams wouldn't need to worry about the AT fields because they'd have Getter Robo and Raideen to break through them!

[MonkeyBoy0314]

the thing about this idea is that it depends on which gundams the EVAs were fighting, because not every gundam can combat an EVA, you know. For instance, most of the ones from G Gundam would lose instantly. But, something like the Wing Zero/Wing Zero Custom would kick ***. But for what I like, I'll just go with Gundam ^_^

[Sharp-kun]

the thing about this idea is that it depends on which gundams the EVAs were fighting, because not every gundam can combat an EVA, you know. For instance, most of the ones from G Gundam would lose instantly. But, something like the Wing Zero/Wing Zero Custom would kick ***. But for what I like, I'll just go with Gundam ^_^
Actually the ones from G are the ones that have the highest probibility of winning.

Wing Zero is an unknown, as there are no stats given on the output of the Twin Buster Rifle. Without knowing that, its equally possible that it would just bounce of the AT Field.

[Alexei]

Okay if we go with the Eva moving on it's own (which only happens in extreme circumstanses) can we also assume that Kamille can just start fighting like he did at the end of Zeta?

Goku always wins. If I've learned anything in anime, that is it. :lol:

Well, I still think the Gundam pilots would have alot more stamina to avoid anything they can do anyway... but that's just me.

Goku has nothing on the FA-RX-78AZD Tomo Gundam (A.D.H.D. Custom).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/cottontail777/FA-RX-78AZD.gif

Full-Armor Tomo > Everything. :P

[Hellmaster Inu]

Goku has nothing on the FA-RX-78AZD Tomo Gundam (A.D.H.D. Custom).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/cottontail777/FA-RX-78AZD.gif

Full-Armor Tomo > Everything. :P

Yep, Full Armor Tomo could easily take out an army hundreds of Mobile Dolls, let alone everything. :P Especially the Evas.

[MagicianCamille]

*official member of Tomo-Chan's army ever since I watched Azumanga Daioh*

[Hellmaster Inu]

FA-RX-78AZD Tomo Gundam (A.D.H.D. Custom).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/cottontail777/FA-RX-78AZD.gif

Full-Armor Tomo > Everything. :P

Does the FA-RX-78AZD happen to come with any specfic upgrades? :P

[Westlo]

God & Devil gundams are the only ones who would be on even ground with a fully powered up eva unit

[zoronian]

need i remind you guys of the N2 engine unit one has meaning that it can survive for as long as it wants with out power and also the fact that it can reshape the world how it chooses and if shinji goes to 120% sync ratio that gundam is screwed one shot wit the angel blast and bye bye gundam

[Levon]

Just whats the point of you bringing back such a stupid thread thats over two years old? :lol:

[Bernard_Monsha]

Eva Fanboy brings back thread from the pit.

The only way Eva could win is if Mr Wong was running Nerv. In fact we should make a thread about what anime would be improved with Mr Wong in it.

[smeagolthevile]

as much as I hate participating in dead threads... simply put RX-078GP02a you show me something that can withstand a nuclear blast, and you win

[zoronian]

the evangellion can stand up to the punch of an n2 mine wich if you payed atttention has the force of 30 atomic bombs and the eva comes out with out a scratch
Eva wins

[Vaikyuko]

Super robots are stronger than Evas, which can be loosely classified as being on the same tier as ZOE Orbital Frames (ie, weaker than a super, but about the strongest a realistic can be). Thus, G Gundam > Eva, but most of the rest can be taken out, from a purely technical standpoint.

This topic is retarded.

[CrossboneGundam]

need i remind you guys of the N2 engine unit one has meaning that it can survive for as long as it wants with out power and also the fact that it can reshape the world how it chooses and if shinji goes to 120% sync ratio that gundam is screwed one shot wit the angel blast and bye bye gundam

You don't even have any idea what you're talking about. "Reshape the world" what? That's Rahxephon.

And Ideon already won, so stop making stupid fanboy posts in threads that are dead.

[zoronian]

watch death and rebirth and end of evangellion and it clearly shows shinji reshaping the world and that spawns the manga angelic days:P

[CrossboneGundam]

watch death and rebirth and end of evangellion and it clearly shows shinji reshaping the world and that spawns the manga angelic days:P

Since when did crotch fusion with Rei = "reshaping the world"?

This isn't the Evangelion board anyway.

[smeagolthevile]

the evangellion can stand up to the punch of an n2 mine wich if you payed atttention has the force of 30 atomic bombs and the eva comes out with out a scratch
Eva wins

well, since were talking series and not mech, even more simply put, colony drop

[Westlo]

I said it before and I'll say it again, only God and Devil Gundams can match up against an Evangelion unit with a focused pilot like Asuka in EoE and thats because they're borderline super robots.

Gundam mecha as a whole is pretty weak but that's what you get from a more "realistic" mecha series.

[Charred Knight]

watch death and rebirth and end of evangellion and it clearly shows shinji reshaping the world and that spawns the manga angelic days:P
That was third impact which was caused by the Angels and not Shinji or the EVAs, Shinji just rejected Third impact..

[Vaikyuko]

I said it before and I'll say it again, only God and Devil Gundams can match up against an Evangelion unit with a focused pilot like Asuka in EoE and thats because they're borderline super robots.

Gundam mecha as a whole is pretty weak but that's what you get from a more "realistic" mecha series.

All the G Gundams are super robots. None of them are borderline supers. Some could more easily be taken down by an Eva, but still.

[Solid-Snake]

colony drop

You win moar internets. Seriously, thread over. Gundam> Eva.

[Wraith Gundam]

the evangellion can stand up to the punch of an n2 mine wich if you payed atttention has the force of 30 atomic bombs and the eva comes out with out a scratch
Eva wins

Which eva did that then? Unit 00 was destroyed and the pilot killed when it did that to Zeruel. And since when did N2 mines have the power of 30 nukes, if that were true then Misato and Shinji would have been incinerated in a nano second in ep.1, they were less than 3 miles from the epicentre of the blast used on Sachiel.

I think this thread should be renamed Eva 01 versus gundam cos the other eva's wouldn't stand a chance. Unit 00 was pretty much melted when it tried to block the beam from Ramiel, so a gundam's beam weapon would probably blow straight through an Eva.

[Westlo]

All the G Gundams are super robots. None of them are borderline supers. Some could more easily be taken down by an Eva, but still.

If by some you mean all of them except for God and Devil than yes some. I'm far from an Evangelion fan but it doesn't change the fact that an Evangelion piloted by someone who's focused could trash 99.9% of gundams made easily. Then there is the matter of AT fields... iirc it took the entire energy output of Tokyo to pierce the At field of one angel and I'm pretty sure there was an evangelion unit deploying it's own at field against it at the same time.

[Westlo]

I think this thread should be renamed Eva 01 versus gundam cos the other eva's wouldn't stand a chance. Unit 00 was pretty much melted when it tried to block the beam from Ramiel, so a gundam's beam weapon would probably blow straight through an Eva.

No realistic gundam could pierce an AT field, the way they get through at fields is by using their own to bypass them. They make that clear in the 2nd ep of evangelion.

[Levon]

Yeah the super robot of G Gundam are what stand the most chance because like an EVA they are more than a mere war machine.

[Phantom]

I have always thought that the pilots of the evas can not use there AT field to block incoming attacks under normal conditions. Only the Evas could use them like that or a pilot that was......(See the movie)

Anyway apart from that im sure that a Eva that could use its AT field could block any and all attacks fired against him as the only thing that can get past a AT field is another AT field. Yes they sniped one of the angels with a high powered beam weapon but theres no way that a gundam could carry the power needed in order to force the shot past the AT field.

[Levon]

I wonder if Scirocco could use his Newtype powers to crush the pilots mind. I think he used the bio-sensor from The O to amplify his Newtype pressure to crush Kamilles brain. ?? Something like that, it was never really explained in the show. I don't know if an AT Field can satop that or what, Newtype powers are untested on EVA's as far as I know;)


If it wasn't for the AT Field I'm sure an EVA wouldn't be all that great in a fight against a powerful Gundam.

[Bernard_Monsha]

Overdevil and Ideon tag team FTW.

[zoronian]

the reason shinji and misato wernt destroyed is because of the geo frount and the 35 if i remember rightly plates of armour around nerv hq and if it is a fight between gundam and eva it has to be unit 01 because it is the only one left eaven though gundam is cool:) the firght between gundam and eva would be boring the interesting fight would be eva and rahxephon

[Westlo]

Well yeah the Absolute Terror field is the Evangelions greatest strength so yeah take that away and it's gg. Reading a summary on ep 6 it took the entire power output of Japan for that sniper rifle to pierce the angels at field. I'm still pretty sure that was with one of the eva units deploying their own at field to soften it up.

[Lord Timaeus]

the reason shinji and misato wernt destroyed is because of the geo frount and the 35 if i remember rightly plates of armour around nerv hq

Then how the hell did that same type of N2 mine break through all of the barriers above the Geofront in EoE?

At least Gundam's emo kids grow spines... well, most of them.

[Wraith Gundam]

the reason shinji and misato wernt destroyed is because of the geo frount and the 35 if i remember rightly plates of armour around nerv hq and if it is a fight between gundam and eva it has to be unit 01 because it is the only one left eaven though gundam is cool:) the firght between gundam and eva would be boring the interesting fight would be eva and rahxephon

They weren't in the geo-front, it was before they reached Nerv HQ.

[CrossboneGundam]

No realistic gundam could pierce an AT field, the way they get through at fields is by using their own to bypass them. They make that clear in the 2nd ep of evangelion.

You just have to have high enough power to get through an AT field. How do you think the N2 mine damaged Sachiel? It didn't use its AT field to nullify Sachiel's or whatever.

Besides, no Gundam is realistic.

[smeagolthevile]

Thats seriously funny! it seriously Is, no REALISTC like these Evangelion mechs are Realistic? how could you even say something like that...

[Westlo]

You just have to have high enough power to get through an AT field. How do you think the N2 mine damaged Sachiel? It didn't use its AT field to nullify Sachiel's or whatever.

Besides, no Gundam is realistic.

How? I call it crappy plot writing by Anno that's how. And no **** no gundam is realistic in the "true" sense of the word but MSG did start the "realistic" robot genre that gave birth to Macross and it's ilk. You of all people here should know that....

[CrossboneGundam]

Thats seriously funny! it seriously Is, no REALISTC like these Evangelion mechs are Realistic? how could you even say something like that...

Could you help us out a little and learn English?

And tell me who it was that said Evangelion is realistic. Because I don't see any of my posts saying that.

[FormidableDelta]

Sup, fools? K, I'm gonna lay it on the line. Eva wins. I will now support this FACT with evidence:

First thing I'll say is if anyone tries to use the "You don't know what Evas (or Gundams for that matter) are made out of, so how do you know that they won't have a malfunction of some sort?" shut up. Evas are bio weapons. They have less machine parts to them than a Gundam, so Evas would less likely screw up in battle with a malfunction, but we're gonna assume no malfunctions happen to either. Yeah, a friend said that to me once and I was like, "O******' kay.....!!!"
Eva 01 is a god. In the episode Introjection, it happens. The S^2 engine is consumed giving it infinite power. The reason why it became a god is because it has the fruit of life and the fruit of wisdom. The life comes from the engine, and the wisdom comes from the human soul, Yui, that resides within the Eva. Are you telling me that you think a human creation is even worthy of testing its might against a god? (Doesn't matter if you're atheist or not, the point is Eva 01 is a god) So, Eva 01 doesn't need an umbilical cable to pilot as the berserking Unit 01 proved that to us, and you don't need to be conscious or not to berserk as Asuka proved that to us.
Evangelions have an amazing regeneration process. Unit 01's broken arm in episode 2, and Unit 01 regenerated an arm completely from the angel Zeruel. Unit 01 was stabbed in the right eye straight through to past the back of the head, but it berserked with full power and won after a self-destruct from an Angel. This next thing isn't really regeneration, but no Gundam could berserk and burst out of a two-dimensional object (a shadow) which destroys the angel. It fell into a sea of Durac. That's pretty hardcore right there. Look it up.
The AT Field. There is no set durability on this field. If you guys knew what an AT Field is (Barrier that protects the mind and separates minds from each other) The ONLY thing that could break through Asuka's AT Field at full power is the Lance of Longinus (or what one believes is the Lance, making her lose the power of her mind) and the only reason that is so powerful is because the Lance was used to stab Jesus Christ. It had His blood on it making the Lance able to pierce ANYTHING. Any Gundam armour you have, the Lance will pierce it. And just because it's a lance doesn't' mean you have to throw it, it can be kept in the hands of an Eva. And most Gundams wouldn't even be able to pick up the Lance to use against an Eva because it's too big for most of them. (By the way, Evas are ALOT bigger than most Gundams) Back to the AT Field. What you guys don't understand about the power of the AT Field is that if you're fighting someone that's uber pissed (like Asuka)............RUN. You're not gonna pierce that thing. An AT Field is all about the mentality. Gundams don't have that sort of power and defense to use at their disposal. Shoot/use your most powerful weapon at an AT Field all day, and you'd still get your crap kicked outta ya.
Fight with Zeruel: This proved how tough an Eva is. Shinji still fought with a severed left arm. Shinji was shot point blank with a beam that penetrated 17 or so of the twenty something amoured layers protecting the Geofront. That's through tons and tons and tons of armour with tons and tons and tons and then some more tons of earth. He wasn't even using his AT Field! He lived, he berserked, he ate, he became a god. Unit 01, I mean. He then used his fingers to cut through a metal that easily cut off Unit 02s arms and head. His fingers, the least armoured part of his Eva's body! Grabbed it, stabbed it with its horn, ripped off that sheet of metal, and used it to regenerate the severed arm.
I've seen a lot of the fire power used from Gundams, and really...it doesn't offer much opposition at all to an Eva, especially when the unit fighting the Eva is a lot smaller. And for you guys who don't like Evangelion as a show, you must not have a lot of interest and/or intelligence in the philosophical, psychoanalysis, the past to a tragic character, or an appreciation for Christian mythology, and I find it weird you don't think an Omega Point is cool. You're not seeing me judge and of the Gundam shows, just how much an Eva owns a Gundam. Weakness of an Eva: Shinji lol

[Hajime Saitou]

*grabs popcorn*

This is going to be sweet.

[Levon]

It doesn't deserve must attention. The fanboy clearly bumped this old thread to start up this dumb debate again.

Just because an EVA is bigger doesn't make it better, although like explained before there are Gundams as big or bigger than an EVA. I mean the Devil Gundam's final form was a freaking huge colony!

[Talon]

Eva has god mode h4x. I declare this bout to be unfair.

[Trefellin]

FormidableDelta's "essay" presents quite the arguement. Eva wins in my opinion.
It really isn't important to me though.

There is no way this debate will end during our lifetimes. Like pollution and national debt, it will be past on to future generations to solve.

[Vaikyuko]

His essay doesn't present an argument, all it does is showcase things from the show. I could just as easily say Devil Gundam, with its insane regenerative properties and ability to corrupt units, could certainly take on and easily beat an Eva (at least if it were at full size, ie Colony Devil Gundam).

But whatever, this topic sucks.

@Saito: :lol:

[CrisisLover]

I second that,

Just a question though...size and special abilities aside... how WOULD a Gundam penetrate a full power AT field by the way? :unsure:

[CrossboneGundam]

tl;dr

lol fanboy rage

[Bernard_Monsha]

This thread needs more Zuggy. (http://www.evacommentary.org/omake/essay-on-quadic-superposition.html)

[GreatNekoKoneko]

*grabs popcorn*

This is going to be sweet.

...hey. pass the popcorn. i think this will be short-lived though.

[FormidableDelta]

You guys didn't catch a huge flaw with Unit 01 that would kick it's ***....Shinji is a conscientious objector or whatever. He REFUSES to kill anyone. I'm pretty sure every Gundam would kick his ***...hehehe

[Makunouchi]

TL;DR, Gurren Lagann would kill them both.

[KatayokuのTenshi]

I thought the AT field had to have massive amounts of power to run, of course it has been a while since I watched Eva.

Come to think of it I don't think it requires any power... "This is the light of my soul" and whatnot.

the evangellion can stand up to the punch of an n2 mine wich if you payed atttention has the force of 30 atomic bombs and the eva comes out with out a scratch
Eva wins

I think the more pertinent sound bite RE Nuclear explosions is:

MISATO:
I know it's crazy, but there just isn't any other way.

SHINJI:
But it's too dangerous!

MISATO:
Don't worry.
If it comes down to it, the Eva can withstand a direct explosion.

SHINJI:
Not that! I meant for you, Miss Misato!

They were talking about JA's reactor.

This isn't the Evangelion board anyway.

What has that to do with anything?

Which eva did that then? Unit 00 was destroyed and the pilot killed when it did that to Zeruel.

No the armour was slightly melted and then Zeruel took the head from zero- just after they deactivated it. She lived to die another day. In fact the thing that blew her up and destroyed the city of Tokoyo was when she did... what ever she did that made her own core explode to kill Armisael.

if that were true then Misato and Shinji would have been incinerated in a nano second in ep.1

It's been noticed before. (http://www.evacommentary.org/episode-01/episode-01A-scene3.html)

This is anime™. Shut up and hoot.

I have always thought that the pilots of the evas can not use there AT field to block incoming attacks under normal conditions. Only the Evas could use them like that or a pilot that was......(See the movie)

No I don't think so.

ASUKA (OFF):
WHAAAAAAT?
Catch it in our hands?

MISATO:
That's right. We'll position the Evas in the estimated drop zone.
You'll catch it while maintaining your AT Fields at full strength.
. . .

MISATO:
Commence operation.

SHINJI:
Here we go.
Start!

AOBA (OFF):
Distance 12,000!

SHINJI:
Field at maximum!

REI:
Unit 02! Field to maximum!

ASUKA:
I'm doing it!

SHINJI:
Now!

ASUKA:
Bastard!

*boom*

Then how the hell did that same type of N2 mine break through all of the barriers above the Geofront in EoE?

...There were hundreds of them?

Yeah this topic isn’t… ah what the hell.

It depends on which Evangelion, at which point in the series and on which Gundam as well. If it’s berserk Unit 01 then it deals with the power constraints and the any reluctance on behalf of the pilots. If it’s the MPEs that


Fly
Have a weapon that pierces anything
Can’t be touched by anything other than an Evangelion
If you do break them then pieces eat you
And can (in certain circumstances) turn your pilot into orange goo


Then all bets are off.

[Sushikins]

I'll take Genesic GaoGaiGar with Gai as pilot in this battle, the power of courage.

[akota]

Can a MS pierce an A.T. Field? If so Gundam all the way! Shogouki doesn't need an unbilical cord because it ate Zeruel to get an S2 engine in episode 19.