Super Robot Wars Alpha 3

[Sharp-kun]

This actually did make me run round the room going "bweee!!!!". ^^;;;


Choujuu Kishin Dancougar
Sengoku Majin Goshogun
Neon Genesis Evangelion
Neon Genesis Evangelion (Movies)
Space Runaway Ideon
Yuusha-oh Gaogaigar
Yuusha-oh Gaogaigar Final
Cyber Troopers Virtual On Mars
Cyber Troopers Virtual On Oratorio Tangram
Muteki Choujin Daitarn 3
Mobile Suit Z Gundam
Mobile Suit Gundam 0083 Stardust Memory
Mobile Suit Gundam ZZ
Mobile Suit Gundam: Char's Counterattack
New Mobile Chronicle: Gundam W: Endless Waltz
Mobile Suit Gundam SEED
Mazinger Z
Great Mazinger
Getter Robo
Getter Robo G
Shin Getter Robo
Koutetsu Jeeg
Choudenji Robo Combattler V
Choudenji Machine Voltes V
Toushou Daimos
Daikuumaryuu Gaiking
Yuusha Reideen
Top o Nerae!
Super Dimensional Fortress Macross: Do You Remember Love?
Macross Plus
Macross 7
Banpresto Original


No sign of SRX, unless its under Originals. I finally get to use King J-Der though :D

Gunbuster returns!!! Somehow Tashiro seems to have survived as well ;)

BWEE!!!!!!!!

[Sharp-kun]

And the pics:

http://home.ripway.com/2004-8/155696/alpha31.jpg
http://home.ripway.com/2004-8/155696/alpha32.jpg
http://home.ripway.com/2004-8/155696/alpha33.jpg
http://home.ripway.com/2004-8/155696/alpha3promo04.jpg
http://home.ripway.com/2004-8/155696/alpha3promo05.jpg

[Sharp-kun]

Confirmed. SRX is back.


"Energy 120%! Heaven-and-Earth-One-Shot-Sure-Kill-Cannon... Fire!!

[C_U_P]

Oh yay. Now I can have Kou fighting alongside Wufei and Kira. My three most hated characters. Joy.

[MagicianCamille]

SEED! W0000000000000000t!!!!


Ideon! w0000000000000000t!!!

Gunbuster! w000000000000t!!

SRX! w000000000000000t!!!!!



Oh I just know the gamefaqs guys are going to stock the @3 forum with "omg y is seed in this game lol at men"

But I say "Hell yeah" to Seed being in an SRW FINALLY.

[ChuChuX3]

Is there even an Alpha 3 board yet at GameFAQs? I've spread this to Mech Assault Genesis (HL2 mod) and AdultSwim already...

I wonder how the people at Gaia Online (I read the topic about it on Gamefaqs...general ignorance of everything except and including Gundam Wing/SEED, Evangelion)

[j_wong00]

Crap, no Dunbine.
:$%&#!:

[Sharp-kun]

Crap, no Dunbine.
:$%&#!:
Dunbine had its turn in Alpha. There's no real reason for it to return. The Aura Battlers are all gone.

Other returners have a reason:

The Dancougar team won't just sit around while all this goes on.

Raideen has to fight the Space Monsters from Gunbuster (as they tied it in in the first game)

Gaogaigar's plot wasn't finished in Alpha 2, they still have the Primevals to deal with.

The Gundam crew are always there ^^;; Same with the Mazingers and Getter team. They won't sit around when the earth is in danger, even if their personal enemies are all gone.

Jeeg's plot isn't done.

The two V's plots need to be finished off (liberation of Boazan).

Gunbuster has to return, as at the end of Alpha we hadn't wiped out the Space Monsters, and it was said they would return.

Macross has to return as Gunbuster is really. Gunbuster was part of the SDF in Alpha, and part of the SDF's mission was to fight the Space Monsters.

SRX has to return, as the Ze Balmary Empire is going to come in force (as predicted at the end of Alpha).

This could well be the finale. Notice Buster Machine 3 in the background?

[.sex miget099]

what the heck is derbine

[Sharp-kun]

what the heck is derbine
Aura Battler Dunbine is a rather good series by Tomino. Perhaps his best.

[.sex miget099]

o yeah i saw that havent seen it in a while

[.sex miget099]

it is ok i guess. Do you like love hina ?
i like eva
and gundam

[Sharp-kun]

Whats that got to do with SRW?

[Vaikyuko]

What exactly is this? A game?

[Sharp-kun]

What exactly is this? A game?
Yes. The Super Robot Wars series of games is over 10 years old and specialises in epic crossovers. ^_^

[Vaikyuko]

...Ah. Well, it's got Eva, and Gundam. My two loves when it comes to mecha. :P

I daresay I'll have to take a look at this.

Slight OT: Is Another Century's Episode part of SRW or neh?

[Sharp-kun]

Slight OT: Is Another Century's Episode part of SRW or neh?
Its not, though its a great game ^_^

[Sharp-kun]

Lifted from D3F

The article rhapsodizes about the combat animations and recaps the existing three SRW Alpha games. It also contains Q&A session with TERADA Masanobu, the man at the helm of SRW:

His first work on the series was as producer of the Gameboy "Super Robot Wars G 2". Thereafter he became the leader of SRW. Apart from that, he claims to grab snatches of sleep between bouts of Dragon Quest 8.

- Please tell us a bit about the subtitle to this installment, "To the End of the Galaxy".

= I came up with that name in part to sum up all of the Alpha series since its inception in 2000. In fact, Alpha was planned to be in three parts from the outset, though one more episode crept in and made it a four-parter. In any event, this grand structure was there all along. Meaning that the reason we did stuff like not finishing Aim for the Top back in Alpha 1 was so that we could save it till now. It fact, almost all the story material around Earth in SRW has wrapped up by now - and seeing as how we've got Aim for the Top and Macross 7 on board, the stage is going to shift to the galaxy. And I must apologize, but I planned to hold off on Ideon until Alpha 3. Given what it's about, you simply can't bring it out except at Alpha's conclusion. And on that note, some may be wondering how on Earth we can wrap up all the territory we've covered in Alpha. With all these large-scale series, it's fair to say that some are easier to tie up than others.

- Looks like it took you until episode three to include Seed. I was wondering just how loud the fans clamoring for it got.

= Um, yeah. We got a lot of requests for Seed from the users starting around the time of Alpha 2[1]. It is popular and all. I had been planning to only do Gaogaigar up through the TV story, but since the scale had gotten so big I realized the users wouldn't be satisfied unless we did the OVAs as well, so we put "Final" in as well. I should point out that Alpha 3 was all set in stone all the way back in the Alpha 2 timeframe, and that includes the decision to include Macross 7.

- I was a bit surprised to see Cyber Fighter Virtual-On included.

= Well, we have cases like Armored Weapon G Breaker[2] appearing in the Dreamcast version of Alpha, so we've got precedent here. I was thinking of using that precedent to broaden our horizons when I had the chance to chat with Watari-san[3], who said "Go for it". And so we get to see Virtual-On on the roster. Watari-san helped us a lot with our Virtual-On scripts.

- What was difficult about pulling off another company's characters?

= Figuring out how to not mess up the image of the original work while still using it to season SRW. Also, it took a lot of careful work to make 2D versions of the originally 3D Virtualoids, and then to super-deform them.

- With all the different titles included in this game, I'm wondering if we'll see the Squad system again.

= Partly becasue this is the successor to Alpha 2, we'll be including the squad system. But we've optimized it some more for this game, so look forward to it.

- I see. I guess we can expect a lot of friends and foes then?

= There's a lot of enemy like the Baf Clan and the space monsters who are supposed to come in overwhelming numbers, and the squad system is probably the best way to recreate those battles. And of course, we've prepared hooks for Ideon and Macross 7. I'm hoping you'll be living in fear of fighting with the Ideon gauge[5] hanging over your head.

- What's the concept behind the new, more extravagent combat animations?

= Subtle movements and attention to effects. That, and the fact that much of the flavor won't be apparent until the second time around - stuff you won't get the first time. We've put stuff in that we think will make you go "wow, look at that attention to detail" the second time around. We did stuff like, with the Valkyrie, depending on whether or not it finishes its enemy off, the animation changes a bit. Just when you think you've seen an animation before, there'll be some surprise waiting at the end. So be sure to watch all the way through every time.

- The cut scenes seem to have gotten more involved too.

= We took a cue from MX[4] and did all sorts of stuff. When it came to the storyboarding for Dankuuga, we actually got some assistance from one of our users, Mr. Ouharu Masaki (animation director for the original). Stuff like that gave us a lot to work with.

- What about the Banpresto original characters?

= They'll be there. Remember that major enemy organization from way back in Alpha 1, the Balmar? They'll be back in full force for this episode. I think you'll see why the Balmar didn't intervene in Alpha 2, as well as what a bunch of the characters only mentioned by name have been up to. And again, this game will have an original main character... though what _kind_ of character is still secret.

- I'm sure the fans playing the series still have a lot of questions from the previous episodes.

= Stuff like what became of the Exelion, or what the Macross is up to after heading off to space in Gaiden[6]. I'm hoping we can answer questions like that. The plan is to wrap up everything we've done since 2000 in one fell swoop. The Alpha series has been be a major turning point for SRW, and I'm hoping to make this a worthy finale. I'm grateful to everyone who's taken this journey with me.

[1] SRW Alpha 2, available for the PS2 in March 2003.
[2] A series born of Sunrise's character-driven RPG "Sunrise Heroic Legend". It was also animated.
[3] WATARI Juurou, member of Sega's Third AM Development Section. Producer of the Cyber Trooper Virtual-On series.
[4] SRW MX, available for the PS2 in May 2004. Known for a forgiving scenario that even light users can enjoy.
[5] In SRW F Final, the Ideon's gauge would rise every time an enemy hit it. If it hit a certain level, the Ideon would go berserk, indiscriminately attacking everything in sight. For this reason, it became legendary as a psychopathic red giant.
[6] SRW Alpha Gaiden, available for the PS2 in March 2001.

[RPGZeta]

I seriously can't wait for this game. It looks s awesome. It's a fitting conclusion to the Alpha timeline.

[Sharp-kun]

I seriously can't wait for this game. It looks s awesome. It's a fitting conclusion to the Alpha timeline.
My only hope is that it doesn't end with Ideon ending the Universe. Thats a good ending for Ideon, its not one for Alpha. It kind of ruins everything people like Koji and Ryouma have fought for. F Final didn't end that way, so hopefully @3 will be the same.

[RPGZeta]

Speaking of Ideon, I have this eerie feeling that the Ideon villain are going to get their hands on the mass production Eva-05 series to use against you . . .

[ChuChuX3]

<I>[6] SRW Alpha Gaiden, available for the PS2 in March 2001.</I>

That should be for PS1...

Speaking of which, A.C.E. may not be in the same universe as Super Robot Wars, it is similar in the fact that it has Banpresto Original units like Gespesnt and is basically Super Robot Wars, action-style, and without Super Robots...

[Sharp-kun]

Speaking of Ideon, I have this eerie feeling that the Ideon villain are going to get their hands on the mass production Eva-05 series to use against you . . .
How so?


The Ideon itself I imagine will turn out to be a creation of the Protoculture, made (like the Zentradi) to fight the STMC.

[NeonZ]

Neon Genesis Evangelion
Neon Genesis Evangelion (Movies)
Space Runaway Ideon
Mobile Suit Gundam SEED
Shin Getter Robo
Top o Nerae!
Super Dimensional Fortress Macross: Do You Remember Love?
Macross Plus

Yay! ^_^

Alpha 1 did Eva's entire story, the only thing missing is the second part of the movie, which probably won't happen anyway... That means... Eva finally will appear in a SRW without being held back by the series plot! Bah... It was getting really annyoing to watch the same events again and again...

Well... I can't get an official continuation to Eva, but this is the next best thing!

I'm happy to see that Macross Plus is still in. Isamu is easily my favorite Macross charachter...

And I haven't played SRW F, nor watched Ideon, so, I'm curious to see it for the first time.

But... Getter and Shin Getter are in the same game...? This will be confusing... Bah... They should have gone with Neo Getter...

It's good to see SEED in the game... but I don't know how it will fit, this game seems to be really epic, and another collonies VS Earth war won't fit very well...

[Sharp-kun]

Alpha 1 did Eva's entire story, the only thing missing is the second part of the movie, which probably won't happen anyway... That means... Eva finally will appear in a SRW without being held back by the series plot! Bah... It was getting really annyoing to watch the same events again and again...

Well... I can't get an official continuation to Eva, but this is the next best thing!
Eva's needed I presume to tie up the whole Angels/Protoculture/STMC plot.

But... Getter and Shin Getter are in the same game...? This will be confusing... Bah... They should have gone with Neo Getter...
Shin Getter in Alpha is the manga version, which is stupidly uber. Its only brought out as a last resort.
The reason the others are there is that Musashi will likely still be alive (hence Getter Robo), and the other 3 need a mech (Getter G).

Neo Getter won't appear in a game like this. I for one won't accept anyone other than the real team for the finale and I expect a lot of people feel the same.

It's good to see SEED in the game... but I don't know how it will fit, this game seems to be really epic, and another collonies VS Earth war won't fit very well...
There's other Gundam stuff to tie up. Haman for example is still lurking around (presuming they make the canon @2 path the one where she lived). for example. Some form of Gundam plot is also nice just to give all the UC pilots something to do (one of my gripes with MX was there was no point to the Gundam characters, as there was no one for them to fight)..

[NeonZ]

Shin Getter in Alpha is the manga version, which is stupidly uber. Its only brought out as a last resort.
The reason the others are there is that Musashi will likely still be alive (hence Getter Robo), and the other 3 need a mech (Getter G).

Hum... Could you tell me about the Shin Getter Manga? Would it be off-topic?

Neo Getter won't appear in a game like this. I for one won't accept anyone other than the real team for the finale and I expect a lot of people feel the same.

Bah... The original team could still be in as long as Getter or Getter G continued in the line up.

I just dislike the Shin Getter versions of Go and Gai. Are they in the manga anyway?

There's other Gundam stuff to tie up. Haman for example is still lurking around (presuming they make the canon @2 path the one where she lived). for example. Some form of Gundam plot is also nice just to give all the UC pilots something to do (one of my gripes with MX was there was no point to the Gundam characters, as there was no one for them to fight)..
But that path didn't have an epic final battle against Char... (Bah... He'll probably come back, anyway...).

About MX, Dragonar is an AU Gundam without the name "Gundam"... (Ok, I've watched only 5 episodes, but it seemed like that, from what I've seen). IIRC, there were even some scenarios in MX which had UC Gundams, without Dragonar allies, fighting against Giganos.

[Sharp-kun]

Hum... Could you tell me about the Shin Getter Manga? Would it be off-topic?
I haven't personally read it, I just know select details.

I just dislike the Shin Getter versions of Go and Gai. Are they in the manga anyway?
Don't think so.

But that path didn't have an epic final battle against Char... (Bah... He'll probably come back, anyway...).
It did, he just tries to drop Orphan instead of Axis.

About MX, Dragonar is an AU Gundam without the name "Gundam"... (Ok, I've watched only 5 episodes, but it seemed like that, from what I've seen). IIRC, there were even some scenarios in MX which had UC Gundams, without Dragonar allies, fighting against Giganos.
Dragonar does seem to be Gundamish from what I've watched of it. Its been a while since I played MX, but the majority of Earth forces were Dragonar units.

[ChuChuX3]

I didn't like UC Gundams having no story in MX either. Too easy for my tastes is what stopped me from playing it for awhile.

Haman is still around (I assume they'll make Kusuha and Brooklyn's path canon, but still somehow include the other originals...) as are Cima and Yazan (some people said Ramses and Dangel are too...)

[MagicianCamille]

Banpresto needs to get some balls and make an SRW without Gundam units.

I'm joking of course, Banpresto rocks.


I am tired of playing the same events over and over though with the Gundam units, they need to mix it up a little.


I am very much looking forward to @3 mainly because of the Balmar empire, this game will be so climactic, hopefully it's tougher then @2, I love @2 though.


I need to finish @2, then import Alpha and Alpha Gaiden. Fear me, I actually PAY for my Super Robot Wars games.(has payed for 1 Super Robot Wars game out of the 10 he has played)


(Don't say what you are going to say Sharp.)

[Sharp-kun]

(Don't say what you are going to say Sharp.)
*huggles his OG2 cart*

[ChuChuX3]

Only ones I've ever paid for the original game was MX. I just beat @2 (4 hours at last stage) with Kusuha's route. Lemme tell ya, upgrade ALL your Super Robots (Mazinkaiser, Shin Getter Robo specifically) and conserve as much EN and SP as you can...after taking out the regular enemies, cast Exhaust constantly on the final boss...unless you like 500kHP...

[Sharp-kun]

I didn't find Gun Eden at the end of @2 that bad. Didn't need to use Exhaust. Irui was nowhere near as evil as Shuu at the end of @G. She didn't even have a MAP attack.

[MagicianCamille]

Only ones I've ever paid for the original game was MX. I just beat @2 (4 hours at last stage) with Kusuha's route. Lemme tell ya, upgrade ALL your Super Robots (Mazinkaiser, Shin Getter Robo specifically) and conserve as much EN and SP as you can...after taking out the regular enemies, cast Exhaust constantly on the final boss...unless you like 500kHP...



Actually I was taught a pretty neat tactic:


Give Puru 1 and Puru 2 SP reduction and SP Recovery, and put them in the same squad as Zengar, who should also have SP Recovery, the Puru twisn have a spell called Reawakening, which lets a unit attack again, so in theory you could use Zengar's best attack with rage casted several times in one turn.

[ChuChuX3]

Why didn't I think of that!? I had the Purus in Camille and Judau's squads...

[Dyrean]

YEHEYYY!!!! where I can find the site of this game I really fan Of Super Robot Wars and also The Super Robot Taisen is going to be animated. Yahhooooooooo!!!!!!!

[Sharp-kun]

YEHEYYY!!!! where I can find the site of this game
www.suparobo.jp will be the first to post actual details I assume.


The Super Robot Taisen is going to be animated. Yahhooooooooo!!!!!!!
Not quite. Original Generation is, not actual Super Robot Wars - no Gundam, Mazinger etc. I do get to see my beloved Aya, Exellen and Kusuha though :wub:

[MagicianCamille]

Not quite. Original Generation is, not actual Super Robot Wars - no Gundam, Mazinger etc. I do get to see my beloved Aya, Exellen and Kusuha though :wub:



If I don't see a bounce from all three I will be highly dissapointed. Kuusha "bounces" in @2. >.> <.< >.>

[RPGZeta]

For the person who asked about the Shin Getter manga, it takes place few years after original stories and has Go (who is much different from Shin Getter Go and is somewhat close to Neo vs. Shin' Go) becoming a Getter pilot along with Shou (who is similar to Neo vs. Shin's), and Gai (who is much different from the other Gais). The enemy is Dr. Lando, but after he's defeated, Gol returns from the dead and becomes the enemy. There are ons of instances in here, including Shin Dragon eating people and an army of Getter Emperors that Go and friends have to fight.

Shin Getter in the manga is the most powerful form of Shin Getter existing and is defenitely more powerful than Banpresto Shin Getter, Shin Change! Shin Getter, and Neo vs. Shin's Shin Getter.

My theory is that for this game, Ryoma, Hayato, and Benkei will be the Getter pilots all the way through ,but will play out the manga's story for Gol's return. Gol is the main Getter enemy of Alpha timeleine. It's only right that we get him for one last battle.

And for the record, I thought Neo Getter vs. Shin Getter was barely decent. I'm glad it's not in Alpha timeline.

[RPGZeta]

I didn't find Gun Eden at the end of @2 that bad. Didn't need to use Exhaust. Irui was nowhere near as evil as Shuu at the end of @G. She didn't even have a MAP attack.

GunEden was a pansy. Too easy to beat. And yes, Shuu was a MONSTER in @G.

In this game, we have to deal with the 11 other tribes of the Balmar and Volkruss. That is scary.

Since Volkruss is back, there's a high change Shuu might be revived as a good guy. If Shuu is back, it''d be nice if Shuu is one of the archtypes for choice at the beginning of the game. Then again, my hope is to have just one route with lots of orignials on it with a lot of path splits.

[Vaikyuko]

Speaking of Ideon, I have this eerie feeling that the Ideon villain are going to get their hands on the mass production Eva-05 series to use against you . . .

If my harpies are in this, I'll have to get it. XD ^_^

[ChuChuX3]

Hopefully, the EVAs won't be so tough with AT Fields...

[RPGZeta]

Hopefully, the EVAs won't be so tough with AT Fields...

Remember, @3 is using the squad system.

Since Brain Powerd, who supplied barriers for an entire squad, are gone, the Evas are probably going to take over that role now as barrier providers for squads.

[ChuChuX3]

Just remembered something, while on Earth I doubt they'll be able to fly automatically...meaning I'd have to give them Minovsky Crafts if I put them in with flying mechs!

Speaking of which, anybody got that OG Anime promo that KaneBlueRiver was talking about?

[MagicianCamille]

If my harpies are in this, I'll have to get it. XD ^_^



Your Harpies will DIE. I will personally make sure that Zengar kills every MP Eva in the game if Zengar is in this game.

[NeonZ]

It did, he just tries to drop Orphan instead of Axis.
I know that. I meant that even though both may have a final battle against Char, only the path with Hamman as enemy has an "epic" final battle against Char.


For the person who asked about the Shin Getter manga, it takes place few years after original stories and has Go (who is much different from Shin Getter Go and is somewhat close to Neo vs. Shin' Go) becoming a Getter pilot along with Shou (who is similar to Neo vs. Shin's), and Gai (who is much different from the other Gais). The enemy is Dr. Lando, but after he's defeated, Gol returns from the dead and becomes the enemy. There are ons of instances in here, including Shin Dragon eating people and an army of Getter Emperors that Go and friends have to fight.

Isn't that the Getter Go manga? Or are both the same thing?

And for the record, I thought Neo Getter vs. Shin Getter was barely decent. I'm glad it's not in Alpha timeline.
Bwah...? What was bad about it? It was short and didn't have a complex plot, but that's expected from a very short OVA series.

[MagicianCamille]

Bwah...? What was bad about it? It was short and didn't have a complex plot, but that's expected from a very short OVA series.



Let's pretend he said it was bad.

[NeonZ]

Let's pretend he said it was bad.

I never said that RPGZeta had said that it was bad, I just asked him what he disliked about that series, ok? After all, if he believes that it's barely average, it has to have done something wrong, doesn't it?

[MagicianCamille]

I never said that RPGZeta had said that it was bad, I just asked him what he disliked about that series, ok? After all, if he believes that it's barely average, it has to have done something wrong, doesn't it?


Not neccessarily.



I for one love Neo Getter. A lot. ^_^

[Sharp-kun]

Trailer is out.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-8/46940/MyleneSD.gif

[MagicianCamille]

Trailer is out.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-8/46940/MyleneSD.gif


Thanks for hooking us up.






Oh wait, you didn't.



(I'll assume Chrissy has it)

[Vaikyuko]

Your Harpies will DIE. I will personally make sure that Zengar kills every MP Eva in the game if Zengar is in this game.

...We'll see. If I can help it, I'm going to get them on my side, and kill whoever's in my way. XD

BTW, what's this trailer I'ma hearing about?

[ChuChuX3]

Heh, the trailer is sorta low quality, especially with some guy blocking 1/2 of the screen. Of interest to you may be Shinji blasting MP Evas...

Contact me on AIM at "qazplm111" or www.dra-mata.com and go to the "misc" folder and look for alpha3. It's about 40MB

[Vaikyuko]

Thank you for the link. I'll certainly be using it. ^_^

[Sharp-kun]

A higher (Slightly) quality version is up now, which also has what I assume is the opening.

Thanks for hooking us up.
I was rather busy :P

[MagicianCamille]

I was rather busy :P


You had time to insert that fancy image but not type "www.dramata.com"?


:P Let's forget it.

[Sharp-kun]

More pics:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-8/46940/srwa3-6.jpg
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-8/46940/srwa3-7.jpg

[NeonZ]

Shinji looks angry...

And those things from VO don't have pilots?

[MagicianCamille]

Shinji looks angry...

And those things from VO don't have pilots?



The Shinji in SRW is 100x better then the Shinji in the actual show, because you don't have to sit and listen to his bitching and moaning, and you can kill stuff and he won't spend the next episode talking to himself about it.

[Vaikyuko]

Shinji looks angry...

And those things from VO don't have pilots?

The Virtuaroids have pilots...we just never see them. That or they're alive themselves, in a sense.

On another note...I see the harpies....XD

[ChuChuX3]

Yeah, the harpies are gonna get stomped...

[Sharp-kun]

On another note...I see the harpies....XD
The harpies are one of the few things from Eva that can return. SEELE were never destroyed at the end of Alpha, we just foiled 3rd Impact. No reason they can't build more.....

[MagicianCamille]

I just ordered Alpha Gaiden. ^_^ ^_^ ^_^

[Sharp-kun]

I just ordered Alpha Gaiden. ^_^ ^_^ ^_^
Make sure to get all the Skill Points, you want the final mission.

Means you don't get FAZZ and Sazabi though.

[Sharp-kun]

Alpha 2, but oh well. Translation by Chrissy, subbed by me rather hastily *which is why the timing on a few lines is a tiny bit off ^^;; )

Daizengar!! (http://home.ripway.com/2004-8/155696/alpha2sub.avi)

My daily bandwidth isn't that great, so don't moan if you can't see it. try later.

[MagicianCamille]

You should have had me time it. I R teh timing master.

[Sharp-kun]

You should have had me time it. I R teh timing master.
I would have timed it better had I not been rushing it. :P It was a whim.

[MagicianCamille]

If you were too lazy at the time to time then you should have had me time it.


>.> I'm not desperate or anything...LET ME TIME THE DAMN THING MR. SUPER MODERATOR. Sorry....

[Sharp-kun]

I wonder if they'll decide to do anything based on this:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-8/46940/srxZ0.jpg

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-8/46940/gggZ0.jpg

Coincidence?

[MagicianCamille]

Damn it Sharp I thought you had news on @3 when I saw a new post in this thread, you got my hopes up...

[Sharp-kun]

Damn it Sharp I thought you had news on @3 when I saw a new post in this thread, you got my hopes up...
Oh fine then:

Originally posted by AmuroNT1
Here are some additional comments from the director's blog.

- 3 new characters & 1 (?) from before.

- 1-3 more (?) characters seems to be added as partners.

- There's gonna be minimum of original ally characters and alot more of original enemies.

- There's no hidden main characters.

- The main characters robot design will be newly designed.

- Main characters will be anounce when (weather) it gets warmer.

And of course, the returning character was hinted at in OG2. Personally, I have no idea who it could be, but then again, I'm just oblivious...

Originally posted by AmuroNT1
Please allow me to note a correction to my own post...

When the director said that all of the originals would be newly designed, he meant they were new from the most fundamental levels. In other words, we won't just be evolutions of the Huckebein, Grungast, Geshpenst, Wild series, etc., but totally different mecha.

Sounds interesting.

Lifted from D3F. Better?

[MagicianCamille]

Don't take offence. :blink:


And the character from OG2 will probably be Lattouni.

[Sharp-kun]

And the character from OG2 will probably be Lattouni.
Why? There's plenty of possibilities.

[MagicianCamille]

Just a guess considering Arad and Zeolla could return in @3 and if they did it'd only be on that route since only one of the main characters from last time is returning as a main character.

[Sharp-kun]

There's no reason they can't return on all routes, like Viletta did last time. However, remember that allies are being kept to a minimum.

[MagicianCamille]

I just want to play as Lattouni. >.> I don't care what they do with Arad and Zeolla really.

I Heart Lattouni's OG2 mech.

[Sharp-kun]

I just want to play as Lattouni. >.> I don't care what they do with Arad and Zeolla really.

I Heart Lattouni's OG2 mech.
Ouka > Lattouni.

[MagicianCamille]

Ouka = Dead.

[Sharp-kun]

Yes, but OG2's plot fit with the Alpha timeline, so that doesn't mean she can't be saved, in the event she appears in @.

[MagicianCamille]

I think you forgot a "doesn't".

:P

[Sharp-kun]

I think you forgot a "doesn't".

:P
Silence. I am testing everyone.

[ChuChuX3]

I really wish they'd brung Alpha full circle with perhaps some revitalized plots (like Titans come back or Mars Zeon) even though it probably wouldn't happen. Also wish they'd bring back Grungasts and Gespesnts :(

[MagicianCamille]

To see wether or not they'd really fall for that excuse?

[Sharp-kun]

I really wish they'd brung Alpha full circle with perhaps some revitalized plots (like Titans come back or Mars Zeon) even though it probably wouldn't happen. Also wish they'd bring back Grungasts and Gespesnts :(
There's no reason we can't see MP Grungusts like in @G, they won't be main character mechs though.

I really think bringing back the Titans would be bad though. They're gone, let them be rather than having Yazan try the same things he did in @2.

[MagicianCamille]

If you've played @ then you'd be sick of the Titans by now assuming you've done all the Gundam routes. (Not you Sharp)

[Sharp-kun]

There is a chance for "full circle" in that Shapiro, and Scirocco will likely pop up again, given that the Balmar cloned them.

[MagicianCamille]

It'd be nice to fight a Paptimus clone, Wave Rider Crash! Again!

[RPGZeta]

I like Latounni more than Ouka. << >> Ouka's still cool, though.

There are a lot of rumors that this game will gain have four main characters to choose from in order to fit in the different routes that had gone on in Alpha 2. I'm guessing for the main characters . . .

Latounni: Continues Arad and Zeola's path from @2, includes them and Ouka.
Kusuha: Continues Kusuha's path from @2. Includes the return of Pheonix and Turle King which IMO, should combine with RyuKuOh.
Shuu: The return of the great Shuu-sama! You get Monica and Saphine on this path!
Elzam: Elzam's back, and he brings Zengar with him.

Appearing on all routes: Ingram, Ryussei, Rai, Aya, Mai, Irm, Rin, Masaki and the other Masoukishin.

. . . Then again, Kusuha really should appear on all routes since she's connected to the Balmar plot, and Elzam did appear on all rotues in Alpha, and Shuu really should appear on all routes . . . maybe we really should get one, strong route . . .

Anyway, I theorize the final boss could be the Balmar Emperor fused with a semi-revived Volkuss who had to fuse with him since Alpha Numbers interrupts the revival.

As for clones, we'll defenitey see Shapiro and Scirocco clones. Yuuzes also mentioned he cloned other strong beings which included Heinell, so we'll have a clone frenzy! Also, there was no real proof that the original Shapiro died. For all we know, he faked his death. Scirocco did fake his death in the original timeline, too, so maybehe did as well. Maybe for the first time ever, we'll get Scirocco and Shapiro to join us! One can dream . . .

[MagicianCamille]

It's the final game in the timeline, anything is possible.


Scirroco joining would be awesome, even better then Haman joining in @2!

[Sharp-kun]

Shuu: The return of the great Shuu-sama! You get Monica and Saphine on this path!
Shuu won't be a playable character, as that would let you rename him which would mess things up a bit. Plus his roll in the plot makes it complex.

[MagicianCamille]

Not really:


If you don't play as Shuu he never got revived, if you do he got revived and goes by a new name(assuming you change it).

[RPGZeta]

Shuu won't be a playable character, as that would let you rename him which would mess things up a bit. Plus his roll in the plot makes it complex.

It's not that complex. He died, and now that he can get revived, his connection with Volkruss is severed. He can now fight or humanity as he had intended to.

I think at some point in the game, he'll be playable. He was in SRW EX, IIRC.

[Sharp-kun]

If you don't play as Shuu he never got revived,
Then that seriously changes the plot. Shuu is a major character and if he does appear in @3 then he'll likely have a major role (as in the Balmar War) which can't be avoided.

Any appeance by Shuu will likely be done such that he's on all characters routes. If Shuu's there, then Masaki will be as well. What happens to their story if you didn't play as him? It can't just be left.


I personally am making no thoughts other than Kusuha as a main character, but I very much doubt it would be Shuu.

[MagicianCamille]

I already told you I don't know much about SRW Plot. :P


Except Alpha up until stage 37(stopped reading at this point) and SRW EX Masaki route and Shuu route.

[Sharp-kun]

I think at some point in the game, he'll be playable. He was in SRW EX, IIRC.
He was, but that was more just telling his story rather than having him as a player character (that didn't start until SRW4).

I think he'll be there, but it'll be the same as in @. He'll be a story character who'll pop up, and will join late game. Shuu as a proper main character as I said in my last post causes a lot of complications.

[MagicianCamille]

I should pre-order my copy of @3 from Play-Asia.

[MagicianCamille]

Bullet's Seiyuu is confirmed for @3. Yippee! ^_^


(Sharp told me)

[ChuChuX3]

What if he voices a new character? Has anyone ever considered, unlikely as it is?

[MagicianCamille]

Doubt it. Bullet has to be in @3 though, Kusuha is tied to the Balmar plot and Bullet is tied to Kusuha. ;)

[Sharp-kun]

What if he voices a new character? Has anyone ever considered, unlikely as it is?
I have. As I said, I'm not making ay judgements on original characters at this time. Bullet and Kusuha are very likely to come back, but it is not guaranteed.

[MagicianCamille]

I wonder if they'll put a spin on Kusuha and Bullet, I mean the Tiger Dragon King/Dragon Tiger King, while awesome, has been done to death without any major changes, maybe we WILL see a Pheonix/Turtle/Dragon/Tiger King combination, that'd be awesome.

[Sharp-kun]

maybe we WILL see a Pheonix/Turtle/Dragon/Tiger King combination, that'd be awesome.
I recall (going by memory, which is quite poor at this time in the morning) that the other machines were said to be destroyed in @2. Unfortunatly I can't check just now as I'm in the labs, and I doubt I can be arsed when I get home.

[MagicianCamille]

I was playing as Kuusha in @2 for a few stages today, I've not been playing too much SRW, I'm on the 2nd to last stage of @ though.

[Blue Thunder]

Are there any good sites that list which mecha is in which SRW?

[Sharp-kun]

Are there any good sites that list which mecha is in which SRW?
http://www.destiny3fates.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7

[Sharp-kun]

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-8/46940/srw16tp.jpg
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-8/46940/srw21xn.jpg

Notes:

Auto squad builder - auatomatically creates squads based on power, balance or speed. Good for the lazy people that don't want to spend 20 minutes setting everything perfectly. I probably won't use it though.

Cosmo's squad leader skill is damage -10%
Fockers is platoon attack power + 30%

Release in July

Genesic GaoGaiGar

Mic Sounders sprite.

[MagicianCamille]

Wow this is going to be awesome, I don't like Gamlin's picture though, looks kinda...Djibril-esque.

[RPGZeta]

I probably won't use auto-squad maker either. I like to customize.

Genesic GaoGaiGar looks SO awesome.

Gamlin will be awesome no matter what.

The platoon attacks look great.

And Sharp, does it say in the article exactly that it will come out in July? Are you absolutely sure?

[Sharp-kun]

And Sharp, does it say in the article exactly that it will come out in July? Are you absolutely sure?
No, I'm going by someone else on this. Apparently the "7th month" is mentioned.

Sounds rightish though.

[MagicianCamille]

Yeah I agree about the auto-squad maker, nice concept though.
Genesic GaoGaiGar DOES look very boss.
Macross 7. ^_^


The release date is very convenient, it shall look very nice on my birthday list. :P (In huge writing of course)

-Nya I'm a cheapskate.

EDIT: Notice how we have yet to see an original character? I think Banpresto is teasing us...(Unless we have and I'm just not observant)

[CrossboneGundam]

If you went with the auto platoon thing, it would probably do something like put Kaiser, Shin Getter, GGG, and Gunbuster in one platoon.

[MagicianCamille]

I doubt it, I'm sure Banpresto would make it work better then that.

Those three are all squad leaders most definitely.

[CrossboneGundam]

As long as they put my platoons back in order after events, I'm fine. That's the worst thing in Alpha 2, when there's an event and they tear them apart.

But, is it just me, or is Gamlin's hairline seriously receding?

[Sharp-kun]

If you went with the auto platoon thing, it would probably do something like put Kaiser, Shin Getter, GGG, and Gunbuster in one platoon.
Cost will not doubt not allow that :P

I would assume that that kind of thing would only happen if you chose something like power.

[CrossboneGundam]

Cost will not doubt not allow that :P

I would assume that that kind of thing would only happen if you chose something like power.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking, that power would throw together as many super robots as possible, speed would put all the best Gundams and such in one platoon, etc. But it's all random speculation, so...

Here's hoping for Zengar's return! Since the general consensus is that SRX is a given, anyway.

[MagicianCamille]

Playing Zengar's route in @2 is some of the best SRW fun I've had.

CHEEEEEESSTOOOOO!!!!!

[Sharp-kun]

Playing Zengar's route in @2 is some of the best SRW fun I've had.
Kushua.

Haaaaaaa..... Sure kill....
Tyrant....
Over....
Break!!!!

[MagicianCamille]

Kusuha's route is fun as well, but Gungrust Type III >>>>> Ryujinki



(I have yet to use RyuuKuooh in @2 so I'm not judging it right now)

[Sharp-kun]

Kusuha's route is fun as well, but Gungrust Type III >>>>> Ryujinki



(I have yet to use RyuuKuooh in @2 so I'm not judging it right now)
Ryukooh >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Daizengar.

Overall a far more balanced unit, and more versitile. Daizengar's lack of an ALL attack does take it down a reasonable amount.

[CrossboneGundam]

Ryukooh/Koryuoh definitely is more efficient, what with two pilots and two forms and such. Mountain Pressure alone is worth playing through Kusuha's game for. And yeah, Daizengar's lack of an all attack hurts it in some areas. But I still like DGG more...

[Sharp-kun]

But I still like DGG more...
Entirely opinion, but I prefer Ryuhooh, mostly because the first time it appeared in @ is one of my favourite gaming moments. It helped with the cool FMV and that I wasn't expecting it ^^;;;

[CrossboneGundam]

Entirely opinion, but I prefer Ryuhooh, mostly because the first time it appeared in @ is one of my favourite gaming moments. It helped with the cool FMV and that I wasn't expecting it ^^;;;

There's an FMV for Ryukooh in Alpha?

No wonder you told me to go super at the start.

Certainly wish I had, now... But it's probably going to be a few years before I can stand to play it again.

[Sharp-kun]

There's an FMV for Ryukooh in Alpha?

No wonder you told me to go super at the start.
Get it before others suck my bandwidth for the day:

http://home.ripway.com/2004-8/155696/Alpha%20-%20Ware%20Ni%20Teki%20Nashi.avi

As I've said in various posts, Ryukooh is the main mecha of the @ series, which is why it doesn't make sense to leave it out of @3. It was going to be in @G before it was inexplicably removed. The unit still exits in the game though and can be obtained through hacking, though there's no pilots for it unless you hack further..

[MagicianCamille]

RyuKooh(spelling?) was very god-like in @, my favorite unit to use, though it needed a lot of morale to use it's great attacks and it's pilots lacked the morale rising seishins...

Destroying those 45,000 HP Harpies in one hit with RyuKooh is damn fun. :P

[CrossboneGundam]

Ryukooh/Koryuoh is right. And thankfully they fixed morale problems in Alpha 2 and OG2.

Grabbing that video with 56k late at night... Thanks for that, but anyway, I'm no longer opposed to a Choukijin resurgence in Alpha 3, as Brooklyn is now my top ace in OG2, several dozen kills ahead of the nearest competitor, but my personal preference is Zengar. But that's likely to change since it changed from Ibis and co. to Arad and Seolla to Zengar and friends quite recently.

[Sharp-kun]

RyuKooh(spelling?) was very god-like in @, my favorite unit to use, though it needed a lot of morale to use it's great attacks and it's pilots lacked the morale rising seishins...
Not me, as my birthday/blood type gives me them, as well as miracle.

[Sharp-kun]

SRW Alpha 3 for July
Game Iroiro is reporting PS2 SRW Alpha 3 is set for July release priced at 8379 yen.

[MagicianCamille]

I'm prepared to be screwed up the (Nyaaaa) by Play-Asia's import price.

[Sharp-kun]

I'm prepared to be screwed up the (Nyaaaa) by Play-Asia's import price.
I'm wealthy enought to laugh at it :P ^_^

[MagicianCamille]

Hopefully your pimp doesn't fire you. >.>

I'm joking of course. -_-; >.>


*wishes he had money*

[CrossboneGundam]

I've already secured the necessary funds. I feel good.

[JustAPanda]

Isn't Lik-Sang generally cheaper than Play-Asia? Not sure.

[Sharp-kun]

14th July has been given as an in stock date by at least one store.

[MagicianCamille]

Ehhh, I'll be waiting until the 3rd of August(my birthday ^_^), then the money for it won't be out of my pocket.


-Nya

[CrossboneGundam]

Lik-sang's opened preorders for $65, which is strange, since that seems to be selling at a loss.

[Sharp-kun]

http://www.suparobo.jp/srw_lineup/srw_alpha3/mov01s.html

*Bounces*

[Sharp-kun]

Oh, and giant naked Rei is back.

[Demonboy]

http://www.suparobo.jp/srw_lineup/srw_alpha3/mov01s.html

*Bounces*

My god that looks good. I need to start playing SRW again..

[MagicianCamille]

Wow, neat stuff, annoying music though.

[Sharp-kun]

Wow, neat stuff, annoying music though.
No.

Very, very, very cool and appropriate music.

[MagicianCamille]

omfg wot i have teh opninion and tingz gUy

Seriously, I don't like it. It's appropriate, but it annoys me.

[CrossboneGundam]

Grthblpreordered. Well, whenever that's possible on NCSX, anyway. I thought that was a pretty cool video. Worth the 45+ minutes it took for me to download it. The music started out kind of annoying, but it got better, before it went back to the annoying twinkly stuff.

[Sharp-kun]

Scan 1 (http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-8/46940/ashnod_20050513143520_4068323_1.jpg)

Scan 2 (http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-8/46940/ashnod_20050513143520_4068323_2.jpg)

[MagicianCamille]

Seen 'em, they look neat. :)

[CrossboneGundam]

Awesome as usual.

[RPGZeta]

I think it's awesome now that Sound Force can attack enemy morale with their songs, and if the morale drops below 100, they will retreat and you still get the same amount of money, exp., and PP as if you had killed them. Great job, Banpresto.

The Id Gauge will work like how it did in F Final. It's been awhile, anyone want to remind me how exactly that works?

[Sharp-kun]

I think it's awesome now that Sound Force can attack enemy morale with their songs, and if the morale drops below 100, they will retreat and you still get the same amount of money, exp., and PP as if you had killed them. Great job, Banpresto.
Depends. If not done right it could make the game too easy. Hopefully they'll make it ineffective against certain opponents (I don't think the power of song will work on the STMC ;)).

The Id Gauge will work like how it did in F Final. It's been awhile, anyone want to remind me how exactly that works?
Every time Ideon gets hit, the gauge goes up
Every time ideon kills, the gauge goes down.
There were other bonuses depending on HP.

As I recall there were 7 levels, and Ideon launched at the 3rd. At lvl 6 Ideon's EN went infinite and Ideon Gun could be used. Ideon could also go berserk at lvl 6, and attack you. At lvl 7 it was Game Over
Ideon Sword was either lvl 5 or 6, can't remember.

[Sharp-kun]

Newer scans are up, showing some of the combo attacks:

Double Burning Fire: The usual. Both Z and Great get seperate cutins though and fire from either side, rather than the usual posing together.

The Eva children get a 3 way combo. Cutins of all the pilots.

Chodenji spin V no jigiri: Animated in the same way as R (split face cutin etc).

Combos between Gaiking and Daikuu Maryuu. Looks like Gaiking uses the Daikuu Maryuu as an axe

The Macross 7 pilots get some combo, looks like its just standard strafe the target together.

[MagicianCamille]

The Eva children get a 3 way combo. Cutins of all the pilots.


By a 3 way combo do you mean Rei/Asuka/Shinji specifically, or 3 Eva Children in general? Because I plan to use Touji. >.>

[Sharp-kun]

By a 3 way combo do you mean Rei/Asuka/Shinji specifically, or 3 Eva Children in general? Because I plan to use Touji. >.>
Rei, Asuku, Shinji

[MagicianCamille]

Oh...well in that case:

LAME.

Like hell I'd ever use Rei.

[Sharp-kun]

Oh...well in that case:

LAME.

Like hell I'd ever use Rei.
Even though she'll have an AT-Field, and so be an excellent supporter?

[MagicianCamille]

Even though she'll have an AT-Field, and so be an excellent supporter?


No, I'd definitely use her for support. I forgot for a moment that the squad system exists. :lol: Been playin' too much @ and @G. >.>

[CrossboneGundam]

I wonder how much space an Eva will take up in a platoon... There could be some potential for problems, because of their size, as well as the whole umbilical cable thing.

[MagicianCamille]

Are you kidding? With the warships we're getting in @3 it won't be a problem. CHARGE!

[CrossboneGundam]

Just because I've got nothing better to do:

http://img201.echo.cx/img201/7544/alpha39ix.jpg

Would it have killed them to put Basara's VF-19 on the cover rather than, say, Voltes V?

[Sharp-kun]

I was about two seconds from posting that. :P

They probably didn't want to have two Valkyries on the cover.

[CrossboneGundam]

I was about two seconds from posting that. :P

They probably didn't want to have two Valkyries on the cover.

Yeah, I figured you would have gotten it before me.

But it'll never cease to annoy me how they always have to put Combattler V or Voltes V on SRW covers whenever possible. :P

[MagicianCamille]

Okay, Dancougar and Raideen have been on the cover in all of the @ games except @2(which neither of them were in).

They really filled up that cover. :lol: 12 instead of the usualy 8-9

I only have one complaint about the unit choice for the cover: F'ing Gaiking.


(And Voltes V rocks)

[Sharp-kun]

Word is there'll be a proper promo by the end of June, and originals being announced a week or two later.

[CrossboneGundam]

Yeah, when the game ships, July 14. :lol:

[C_U_P]

My god that looks good. I need to start playing SRW again..Seeing Basara made me smile. :lol: I think it's awesome now that Sound Force can attack enemy morale with their songs, and if the morale drops below 100, they will retreat and you still get the same amount of money, exp., and PP as if you had killed them. Great job, BanprestoTrue dat.

[Sharp-kun]

What I'm hoping is they deal with the little niggle I have with Alpha Gaiden, and have had since I first played it:

Astranagun! Why!??!!

Granted that was the result of the Black History, but I still want to know how Meigas got her hands on it, and why it looked so battered. Did it fight the Aulgelmil and somehow get absorbed by the Machine Cells? Some hint would be nice, even if that timeline no longer exists. Its not just a cameo, its obviously there for a reason.

[CrossboneGundam]

Did they explain Aulgelmir's "Black Box" in Alpha Gaiden? Since makes time travel possible, why not use it as an excuse to explain sticking Astranagun on Aulgelmir? :P
Astranagun was built with Tronium, right? So the Balmar Empire proper acquiring the plans for it and producing more is probably out of the question, since the Tronium was what they came to Earth for in the first place, wasn't it?

And happy birthday, although I guess someone somewhere will make a thread for it and propose consumption of alcoholic beverages as an appropriate celebration, but anyway...

[Sharp-kun]

Did they explain Aulgelmir's "Black Box" in Alpha Gaiden? Since makes time travel possible, why not use it as an excuse to explain sticking Astranagun on Aulgelmir? :P
No, but that didn't bug me as much, as I can just view it as an act of plot (they had to get back somehow). The Astranagun is more obviously there for a reason.

Astranagun was built with Tronium, right? So the Balmar Empire proper acquiring the plans for it and producing more is probably out of the question, since the Tronium was what they came to Earth for in the first place, wasn't it?
I don't think Tronium was ever said to be part of it, but its never denied either. Its also believed in @G that the Ancestors never had contact with the Arrowgaters.

I don't think the Balmar would produce more anyway. From what I recall Ingram tried to go up against Yuzes and failed, meaning the Judecca is perhaps better than the Astranagun, and the Balmar had at least a few of them.

And happy birthday, although I guess someone somewhere will make a thread for it and propose consumption of alcoholic beverages as an appropriate celebration, but anyway...
Thanks ^_^

[CrossboneGundam]

Oh right, Tronium was only elaborated upon in OG, wasn't it? If that's the case, then obviously Tronium's probably not any more significant in the Alpha timeline than Chogokin Z. ;)

[Sharp-kun]

Oh right, Tronium was only elaborated upon in OG, wasn't it? If that's the case, then obviously Tronium's probably not any more significant in the Alpha timeline than Chogokin Z. :lol:
Tronium was elaborated on in @. It was very rare stuff that was found in the Macross (reason it was so rare was because the planet it could be found on was obliterated in the fighting between the Zentradi and the Balmar). The Macross, as an old battleship had some in it.
The Tronium that was left was used in R-2, R-GUN, the Huckie Mk III, the Grungust Type III (at least the one Kusuha was going to get anyway) and the sniper rifle used to kill the 5th Angel. It wasn't mentioned in relation to Astranagun, though Ingram was heavily involved with Troniuim tech before his defection.

It was quite significant. Both the Balmar and Zentradi were desperate to try and get a working Tronium Engine.

[CrossboneGundam]

It was quite significant. Both the Balmar and Zentradi were desperate to try and get a working Tronium Engine.

Oh, so then I was right in regards to the Balmar presence on Earth?

[Sharp-kun]

Oh, so then I was right in regards to the Balmar presence on Earth?
The Balmar were the ones who kick started the whole thing (with Ingram helping). That was the whole thing with the original Huckie accident (where Rai lost his hand). They sent the Black Hole Engine to earth (seemingly to be safe enough, but with a fatal flaw). If makind discovered the flaw, then they would be invaded immediatly. If not, boom, the Balmar detect the accident and invade when man has developed more.

Shuu realised their plan, but chose not to stop the accident, thus postponing the invasion. He then fixed the Black Hole Engine for use in the Granzon. Ingram at this point helps move humans in the right direction, so they'll be nice and strong when the Balmar integrate them into the Empire.

Years later the Balmar send the 3rd fleet, and SRW Alpha happens. Their plan gets a bit mixed up though, due to Earth's discovery by the Zentradi, and the threat of the STMC.

[CrossboneGundam]

So, the Balmar are just out doing the classic take over the universe thing, and the Tronium found on Macross is just icing on the cake for them? And it sort of leads me to question, did they mention if the STMC attacked any of the major forces in the Galaxy like the Balmar Empire? I haven't seen Gunbuster in a number of years, but wasn't the theory that they were going to attack the Earth because it's technology had avanced too far?

[Sharp-kun]

So, the Balmar are just out doing the classic take over the universe thing, and the Tronium found on Macross is just icing on the cake for them?
This is what I can't remember exactly.

The Macross (when the Zentradi first see it) is said by Exedor to be and old Balmar battleship (he also says its a probable soutce of Tronium). Since the Macross is a Balmar ship it either means that Tronium wasn't rare when the ship crashed, or that part was an accident (the accident is what I think it was, since the Black Hole Engine was the actual test).

Memory's a bit rusty on whether the Macross crash was deliberate or not ^^;;;

And it sort of leads me to question, did they mention if the STMC attacked any of the major forces in the Galaxy like the Balmar Empire?
Yes. One of the reasons Yuzzes wanted to to complete the Crossgate Paradigm System was to defeat the STMC, which were also a threat to the Empire. Raodekia reported at one point that contact had been lost with one of the Balmar fleets (4th?) that had been fighting them.

I haven't seen Gunbuster in a number of years, but wasn't the theory that they were going to attack the Earth because it's technology had avanced too far?
Nope, they just wipe out all other life.

The STMC were the ones who killed off the Protoculture. I'm expecting Ideon to be some leftover Protoculture weapon in @3.

[CrossboneGundam]

Good times. :naughty:

Again, I don't know for certain, but wasn't it the Supervision Army that created the Protodeviln to destroy the Zentradi? That would complicate things with Macross 7 in Alpha 3 if that's right. If not, I need to stop posting!

[Sharp-kun]

Good times. :naughty:

Again, I don't know for certain, but wasn't it the Supervision Army that created the Protodeviln to destroy the Zentradi? That would complicate things with Macross 7 in Alpha 3 if that's right. If not, I need to stop posting!
No idea, my Macross 7 knowlege is poor.

[RPGZeta]

The identity of the Supervision Army was never revealed. It is specualted that they were wiped out.

The Proto-Devlin existed for a long time and were always threatening both the Protoculture and Zendrati.

It's not going to complicate things at all. The Zendrati that attacked Earth are all but defeated, the peaceful ones are living on Earth, and we're moving onto the Macross 7 plot.

[CrossboneGundam]

The identity of the Supervision Army was never revealed. It is specualted that they were wiped out.

Obviously I don't know what the hell is going on with Macross 7, because I haven't seen it all yet, but anyway...

Do you mean speculation in Macross' universe itself, or real world viewer speculation? I don't recall ever hearing anything in the Macross animations i've seen so far suggesting that people thought the Supervision Army was over and done with.

Edit: I did some research, and according to The Macross Compendium, which cites a countless number of official Macross materials not available in the US, the energy beings from another universe known as "Protodeviln" which inhabited the bodies of the prototype experimental successors to the Zentradi, the "Evil Series," destroyed roughly 85% of the Protoculture population using posessed Protoculture peoples and technology.
This force of posessed Protoculture peoples would later be known as "The Supervision Army." The Protodeviln were sealed by remnants of the Protoculture who posessed Anima Spiritia, but the Supervision Army apparently remained, and the war between the Supervision Army and the Zentradi (who were no longer under the remnant Protoculture's control) continued in full force. This is all happening roughly 4-500,000 years ago.

[RPGZeta]

Ack, you are very correct about the origins of the Supervision Army.

It is speculated (in the real World, anyway) that they were eventually all but wiped out, or, became a part of Gepelnich's Army when he was revived.

[CrossboneGundam]

I figure they're probably around in some form or another, considering how recently fighting between the Zentradi and the Supervision Army was still going on, as that was what caused Earth to discover the existence of aliens and all. Of course, if we wanted to use the name a little loosely, even the posessed Macross 5 fleet is technically part of the Supervision Army.

Of course, it also turns out that the Protoculture created **** Sapiens (yes, AN's filter just filtered the scientific name of the human species. :naughty: ) through genetic manipulation meant to make sub-Protoculture human ancestors evolve eventually into Protoculture to make colonization of the Earth easier.
Though their techniques are a bit different, the Protoculture and the Balmar are starting to sound more and more similar...

And, just for fun: HOMOSAPIENS! HOMOERECTUS!

Also, I was just thinking it would be cool if Ingram was one of the Banpresto Original protaganists, somehow.

[NeonZ]

Some hint would be nice, even if that timeline no longer exists. Its not just a cameo, its obviously there for a reason.

Actually, that timeline still exists. After the future was changed, the people from the future didn't disappear, and we even see them back there...

[CrossboneGundam]

Actually, that timeline still exists. After the future was changed, the people from the future didn't disappear, and we even see them back there...

I believe Sharp is thinking about that timeline from the realistic perspective that it wouldn't exist any longer IF the gravity wave was responsible for making that future happen. I always saw the continued existence of the characters as A. a slip up by Banpresto or B. Evidence that another, greater threat is still in store for Earth's future, potentially made possible by the aversion of the gravity wave.

[Sharp-kun]

Actually, that timeline still exists. After the future was changed, the people from the future didn't disappear, and we even see them back there...
I belive it is stated om @2 that the future experienced in @2 no longer exists,

Put it down to the multiple futures based on choice theory.

[C_U_P]

Wow, I have to play these games. Does the @ series have any relation to the original SRW series? Or are they completely independant?

[CrossboneGundam]

The Alpha series has little relation to the original series, which ended with F Final, if i'm not mistaken. The only continuity of sorts between them I know of is that the alpha series introduced new models of Banpresto Original mecha from the original series.

[RPGZeta]

I still think the way the originals should work is that a certain timeline will continue a timeline from @2.

Like, I expect Bullet/Kusuha to be a route, so they continue from where they left off in @2.

If Ouka is a main, she can branch off from Arad and Zeola's route in @2.

I know somehow, someway, Zengar will return because his story feels incomplete. He had a sad ending with having to leave Sophia in a rage because he couldn't protect her and is the only one who didn't find out Irui was still alive. (At the end of Zengar's route is a scene where Hime is near the beach [the same beach where Arad and Irui land on Arad's route, I might add] and says "What? This person is . . . !")

[CrossboneGundam]

It's already been confirmed that only one of the Banpresto Original protaganists will be a returning protaganist, and all of the original protaganists' mecha will be unrelated to past ones. What that will mean for the game, we'll have to find out July 14, I guess.

[RPGZeta]

It's already been confirmed that only one of the Banpresto Original protaganists will be a returning protaganist, and all of the original protaganists' mecha will be unrelated to past ones. What that will mean for the game, we'll have to find out July 14, I guess.

That returning protagonist is almost guaranteed to be Kusuha/Bullet.

And last week, Sunrise Radio announced that in two weeks (that means next week) the originals will be revealed. The reason it took so long was because the color illustrations w ere not complete.

[CrossboneGundam]

Yeah, I had heard about the illustration thing already, albeit in a somewhat different form. But I don't like the idea of Kusuha and Brooklyn being the returning protaganists... They're just not interesting to me.

[RPGZeta]

Yeah, I had heard about the illustration thing already, albeit in a somewhat different form. But I don't like the idea of Kusuha and Brooklyn being the returning protaganists... They're just not interesting to me.

They're technically the main characters of Alpha timeline, so youre going to have to deal with 'em. :P

Besides, chances are we'll get the Pheonix and Turtle King remains and they'll fuse with RyuKuOh/KuRyuOh.

[CrossboneGundam]

They're technically the main characters of Alpha timeline, so youre going to have to deal with 'em. :P

Well, they've only exclusively appeared in one Alpha game so far, Alpha 2. Alpha had eight seperate possible protaganists, the other 6 of whom I found more interesting than Kusuha and Brooklyn. For someone who didn't choose them in Alpha, like me, they've got no more tenure than Arad or Ibis. And don't be so sure of yourself when none of the originals have even been announced. Not to mention that whole "no returning original mecha" thing... :P

[RPGZeta]

Well, they've only exclusively appeared in one Alpha game so far, Alpha 2. Alpha had eight seperate possible protaganists, the other 6 of whom I found more interesting than Kusuha and Brooklyn. For someone who didn't choose them in Alpha, like me, they've got no more tenure than Arad or Ibis. And don't be so sure of yourself when none of the originals have even been announced. Not to mention that whole "no returning original mecha" thing... :P

After Alpha Gaiden, a vote was taken by Banpresto on who is the official main of Alpha 1. The winners were Bullet and Kusuha, which is why they were allowed to return at the end of @2.

[CrossboneGundam]

You could have mentioned that sooner. :P

[MagicianCamille]

And lose the opportunity to say it now and make you feel like an idiot? Why that's just not RPGZeta's way. ;)

I love Bullet and Kusuha, Kusuha is cute....and bouncy. Bullet looks like a high school quarterback. :lol:

[Sharp-kun]

You could have mentioned that sooner. :P
There is also the fact that on all routes in @2, there is mention of Ryukooh from the Balmar war. Same with @G even though it didn't appear in the game (the mech does exist though, and can be aqquired through hacking).

[MagicianCamille]

Don't try to sound all uber l33t Sharp, you use a game shark to get it. -_-

[Sharp-kun]

Don't try to sound all uber l33t Sharp, you use a game shark to get it. -_-
Yes, but that uses more words. Plus hacking is the generally accepted word for such actions. :P

Anyway, as another note, even if you got it, there were no pilots for it, so you had to further mess about, and put someone like Zengar in it.

[Sharp-kun]

Ideon Gun attack power will exceed 9999 with upgrades.

I doubt it'll reach the level of Neo Granzons Shukutai Hou (near 20,000 in SRW 4) but it might match the SRX's HTB (~11,000 in OG2).

[Sharp-kun]

Rejoice all:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-8/46940/alpha3mains10km.jpg

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-8/46940/alpha3mains25cg.jpg

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-8/46940/alpha3mains32es.jpg

[Sharp-kun]

Quick points:

Zengar will appear in all main character routes.

Arad and Zeora will only appear in Kouvare Route while the Ivis team will appear in Serena route.

[MagicianCamille]

I am pleased.

Kusuha's new outfit is hot, the new original mecha look...unique, I guess, and the new original(purple, female, huge rack) makes Camille happy in the pants.

[Prons]

Kusha has a nice rack.

[Tiran]

I am pleased.

Kusuha's new outfit is hot, the new original mecha look...unique, I guess, and the new original(purple, female, huge rack) makes Camille happy in the pants.

As I said to Sharp, her mech reminds me of Valspinner from Goddanner.
Yay, to Zengar on all routes, not so sure about no RyuKoOh, but maybe the new mechs will be as cool.
Light blue haired guy with the brown evil looking mech is interesting, I want to know what hes about.
Last but not least: Alter SRX! Woohoo!

[Sharp-kun]

Did they explain Aulgelmir's "Black Box" in Alpha Gaiden? Since makes time travel possible, why not use it as an excuse to explain sticking Astranagun on Aulgelmir? :P
I actually did some poking into this the other day.

The "Black Box" is from Astranagun (Time Diver etc). What that doesn't explain is how Megas got it.

[Sharp-kun]

Lifted from my LJ:

Kouvere is interesting. Reminds me very much of Ingram (from SRW Alpha) and his mech is very much reminiscant of Astranagun (Ingrams mech from Alpha). It says the he has no memories of his past, so I wouldn't be surprised if this turns out to be Ingram in some form (since Ingram vanished after the final Alpha battle). If so, then I imagine the mecha he moves up to later in the game will be Astranagun.

Plus both have Gun Familiar ;)

[CrossboneGundam]

Kusha has a nice rack.

Kusuha's ALWAYS had a nice rack.

So far, I like Kusuha and Brooklyn's new, but still obviously Choukijin-related mecha and DGG3 the most. The new DGG actually looks kind of like Magarga.

Edit: Also nice to see Mai. And is there any evidence as to the gender of the androgynous Zengar lookalike, Quovley (or whatever the romanization will be eventually)?

[MagicianCamille]

Okay I'm confused, how many routes are there going to be? I count a possible 5, unless one of the new originals on the character sheet is an enemy original. If anybody could clear this up for me, I'd be eternally grateful. :bow:

[CrossboneGundam]

Kusuha and Brooklyn are one route, presumably with Kusuha being the protaganist. that just leaves the other three.

[MagicianCamille]

Kusuha and Brooklyn are one route, presumably with Kusuha being the protaganist. that just leaves the other three.


I count four.

Sexy bitch.
Pretty boy.
Escaflowne-Man.
Arad and Zeolla.

[Sharp-kun]

I count four.

Sexy bitch.
Pretty boy.
Escaflowne-Man.
Arad and Zeolla.
No.

Kusuha
Selena
Touma
Kouvere

Arad and Zeolla are supporters only.

[MagicianCamille]

Yeah, you're right, Arad and Zeolla don't exist, they're just on the scans to trick people.

MAKE SENSE SHARP.



Arad and Zeolla are supporters only.
EDIT: Damn you and your edits.

[CrossboneGundam]

Arad and Seolla are support for Kouvere's route (is that what we've settled on? Whatever his name is, i'm more interested after realizing the similarities to Ingram) like Retsuel and Viletta were for everyone in Alpha 2. Ibis team is support for Selena, and Zengar's support for everyone.

[RPGZeta]

Zengar appears on all routes.

The four routes are:
-Bullet and Kusuha
-Touma Kanou
-Kuovlev Gordon (Arad and Zeola appear only on this route)
-Selehna Reshtarl (Ibis, Tsugumi, and Surei appear only on this route)

SRX Alterered "Banpleios" appears on all routes.

Very awesome. Bullet and Kusuha returning is great. Touma gets the DGG-XAM3, so it's likely Elzam and the Aussendeir will appear. Kuvolev might be related to Ingram supposedly. Maybe Ingram went back in time, found out about Volkruss, and has himself "transferred" into a new body becasue he couldn't make it back? And Selehna is, well, HOT. Is it me, or does she look like Mylene Jenius?

[CrossboneGundam]

SRX Alterered "Banpleios" appears on all routes.

Very awesome. Bullet and Kusuha returning is great. Touma gets the DGG-XAM3, so it's likely Elzam and the Aussendeir will appear. Kuvolev might be related to Ingram supposedly. Maybe Ingram went back in time, found out about Volkruss, and has himself "transferred" into a new body becasue he couldn't make it back? And Selehna is, well, HOT. Is it me, or does she look like Mylene Jenius?

That's it. You won! And even though I lost, I still feel good because they look so cool. :naughty:

And I was hearing talk about... hell, i'm not even going to try to figure out his name anymore, Ingram Jr., someone said that Yuuzes originally had silver hair, and Ingram was a clone of Yuuzes, so... I guess that's the only possibility i've heard up until now. He does look like Ingram, though. And we can all see the other circumstantial evidence, anyway.

[lord_jinnai]

I have yet to catch up with most of this trhead. but I want this game to.
the only originals that they need in this game is zengar and kyosuke. realy.
And I think that banpresto really needs to UP the danger level in the games they are putting out recently. I was not to happy with MX. <_<
Crap, no Dunbine.
:$%&#!:
..aye laddie aye. :'(

[CrossboneGundam]

Dunbine was in Alpha. I know it didn't end the same in Alpha, but, if you know the ending of Dunbine, you know why it can't be in the Alpha universe anymore.

[lord_jinnai]

Chaval reim was crushed by a falling block but that didnt stop him from coming back in chars counter attack....
Bring back dunbine

[CrossboneGundam]

Chaval who? What?

Spoiler!:


Pretty much EVERYONE in Dunbine died, though. And in another world. It's kind of hard to have them come back to fight on the other side of the Galaxy against the Protodeviln, STMC and Balmar Empire. Not like they're needed, anyway.

[Sharp-kun]

Chaval reim was crushed by a falling block but that didnt stop him from coming back in chars counter attack....
Bring back dunbine
Banpresto already have a huge cast list for this game. Dunbine's role in the story ended after Alpha, there's no real reason to have to come back again in the story, especiall when there's others who have actual purpose.

Maybe Ingram went back in time, found out about Volkruss, and has himself "transferred" into a new body becasue he couldn't make it back?
Has anything actually been said about Volkruss yet?

[CrossboneGundam]

Probably not. I don't see why there would be any Volkruss in outer space thousands of light years from Earth and La Gias.

[Sharp-kun]

Probably not. I don't see why there would be any Volkruss in outer space thousands of light years from Earth and La Gias.
Just curious in case I'd missed something.

[Sharp-kun]

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-8/46940/11189296366032vu.jpg

[Sharp-kun]

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-8/46940/ashnod_20050617173727_4068323_1.jpg

[Sharp-kun]

From the vid:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-8/46940/snapshot20050618224009.jpg

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-8/46940/snapshot20050618223942.jpg

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-8/46940/snapshot20050618223821.jpg

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-8/46940/snapshot20050618223804.jpg

[CrossboneGundam]

Jung Freud's always a plus. And Shin Getter cutins are, as well.

[Sharp-kun]

The 21 minute trailer is out.

[Sharp-kun]

Some highlights:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-8/46940/a31.jpg

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-8/46940/a32.jpg

[Prons]

Now I have an excuse to try and get into SRW, again.

[lord_jinnai]

you mean that you have given up the fight? shame.
well dont worry when you get the game you will be forgiven.
I just like that the aura battlers are so fast and insectlike.
somehow the characters are more believeable to me than recent anime like Raxephone. Not that I dont like it! :naughty:

[Sharp-kun]

http://www.suparobo.jp/apology.html

Delayed 2 weeks.

[CrossboneGundam]

http://www.suparobo.jp/apology.html

Delayed 2 weeks.


You have GOT to be freaking kidding me.

[RPGZeta]

*Sees Shin Getter cut-in*

Aww yeah! SHIN! SHIIIIIIIIINE! SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAARK! Return of Shin Shine Spark!

The delay really sucks, though. ;_;

[MagicianCamille]

http://www.suparobo.jp/apology.html

Delayed 2 weeks.

Lame Lame Lame Lame Lame.

[Tiran]

Urge to stab rising...

Aah well, I suppose it shouldnt be too bad, I can wait 2 more weeks.

[Sharp-kun]

Judging by the latest scans, it seems Viletta joining back in Alpha may have just been an act....

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-8/46940/1120729284707.jpg

I feel betrayed.



Oh yeah, Irui is also back.

[CrossboneGundam]

So, I'm confused. Quovley (or whatever we're calling him) did the fusion dance with Astranagun?

[Sharp-kun]

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-8/46940/SRT_A3.jpg

If you've not seen it.

[CrossboneGundam]

Good times. Translation by Chrissy?

[Tiran]

I think Ill probably play Kuusha, Kouvery, Serena then Touma last.
Kuusha first, since its Kuusha, Kouvery seems interesting and I want to know what his story is, Touma seems a bit of a cookie cutter super pilot.

[CrossboneGundam]

I'm most interested in Kouvrey now, seeing as Arad and Seolla appear on his route, not to mention his mysterious connection to the Balmar, as well as Bergbau's origin.

[MagicianCamille]

I think Ill probably play Kuusha, Kouvery, Serena then Touma last.
Kuusha first, since its Kuusha, Kouvery seems interesting and I want to know what his story is, Touma seems a bit of a cookie cutter super pilot.

And Serena because of the boobs? Nice logic. No, seriously. I applaud your logic.

*isn't being sarcastic*

That's probably the order I'll play the game in.

Kuusha first, since its Kuusha

[CrossboneGundam]

So, it's only eight days (or is it seven?) 'till @3 ships now, isn't it?

[Sharp-kun]

So, it's only eight days (or is it seven?) 'till @3 ships now, isn't it?
Yep. All things well I'll have my copy on Friday.

Then I'll find its a DVD9.

[RPGZeta]

Hong Kong bootleggers have discovered it is in fact, a DVD5, so we're all safe. Oh, and on that note, my Play-Asia shipment has been sent out! So by the time I get back to NY, it should be in my hands! Yatta!

On another note, the upgrade mecha for the main characters have been released by hackers! BIG SPOILERS:

Kusuha and Bullet - Shin RyuKuOh and Shin KuRyuOh
Observations: Shin RyuKuOh seems to have phoenix wings and the "turtle" shield that Pheonix and Turtle King had from the sidestory SRW manga. Also, Shin RyuOhKi is the same as it was from the same manga as it appears in this game: http://power.jilem.idv.tw/~misato/6d/src/1122335853879.jpg. It seems the theory that RyuKuOh/KuRyuOh joining with Pheonix and Turtle King may be correct . . .

Touma - Dai Raioh
Observations: Uber version of the Raioh. We all know where the new name came from, of course. ^_^

Velg Bau Uppgrade - Dis Astranagun
Obvervations: This is the new upgraded Astranagun. It's AWESOME to see Astranagun back, especially in new form. I am SO sticking a Haro on it to extend that 3-11 attack. This thing looks so damn intimidating. The pilot is SO getting Hit and Away if he doesn't have it already.

Selena - New version of her old mecha
Observations: I can't make out the new name, someone want to help? It looks cool, tho.

Shin RyuKuOh: http://w3.loxa.edu.tw/t045201106/EPSN0043.JPG
The new Astranagnun: http://marmotfarm.com/cgi-bin/upload2/source/up69659.jpg
Shin KuRyuOh, Dai Raioh, and Selena's upgrade (I can't make out the name): http://marmotfarm.com/cgi-bin/upload2/source/up69660.jpg

Also, according to a stage list hacked from the game, Masaki and Cybaster is in the game!

The original mecha, Gunbuster, and GaoGaiGar Final are really pulling me in to this game. Also:

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a39/bbb81/TV2005072616185000.jpg

Rest in peace SRX, for you will soon have a new body to fight. It looks like what the director said is true, they really did kill off Aya. Ryussei and Mai/Rebi will have their revenge! At least this comes to confirming Ryussei x Mai more nad more now. ^^

[CrossboneGundam]

Gee, thanks... Yeah, thanks for all those spoilers.
Although technically it doesn't matter since my Japanese is so amateur that I would have played the game and said after a while "Hey, where's Aya?" before getting on the internet to ask someone... :lol:

Shin Ryukooh and Koryuoh are very cool, although they actually look pretty much like redrawn sprites with a couple of fancy new accessories added on.

But yeah, Quovely or whatever is who I'll be going with. Ship, liksang! SHIIIIIP!!!!

[Sharp-kun]

Thunder Boost Knuckle!!!

Shishiro Blade, Set! Chesto!!!

[RPGZeta]

Yes, Shin KoRyuOh with Shisihoh Blade is just badass.

Also, more stuff revealed:
-No Cybaster is what it seems. ;_;
-Apparently, RaiRyu and FuuRyu are said not to be in the game! Why?! This must be a mistake.
-NO Gerwalk modes for ANY Valkyrie. It seems Gerwalk is just used during attacks.
-No additional modes for Jeeg other than the Panzer.
-No R-1, R-2, and R-3. Banpleios is that much perfected. I guess it will be Ryussei and Mai's love machine while Viletta is in R-Gun Powered and maybe Rai will get R-Sword.
-Final Dancougar is confirmed for the game.
-The Black Wing from Dancougar is confirmed as well.
-Gunblue and Gundober were supposedly hacked as seperate machines. Interesting.
-Eva-01 is quite complex. It has three different berserker modes: Regular, Super, and Berserker Wing. Also Eva-01 Sephiroth Tree is in the game. It has three modes ,also, so does that mean it will be playable? O.o;;
-Every Protodevlin is in the game. Wow.
-Included Primeivals from GaoGaiGar: Tooth, Hair, Hand, Brain, the fused form of the 7 main Primievals, Arm, some of the Jupiter Moons, and Z-Master.

The game is looking really good. Especially Ryussei and Mai's love machine.

[Sharp-kun]

-Apparently, RaiRyu and FuuRyu are said not to be in the game! Why?! This must be a mistake.
So it seems. Disapoints me, but its not that big a deal.

-NO Gerwalk modes for ANY Valkyrie. It seems Gerwalk is just used during attacks.
Don't care, since I never used it in @ or @G.


-No R-1, R-2, and R-3. Banpleios is that much perfected. I guess it will be Ryussei and Mai's love machine while Viletta is in R-Gun Powered and maybe Rai will get R-Sword.
Or that having it seperate and recombine would be awkward with the squad system :P

[Sharp-kun]

Allow me to say. The game ****ing rocks.

You know it the minute the opening vid starts.

[CrossboneGundam]

Allow me to say. The game ****ing rocks.

You know it the minute the opening vid starts.

What, you already got it?

[MagicianCamille]

Yes, Sharp owns the game.

[CrossboneGundam]

Yes, Sharp owns the game.

Then tell him to use his moon magic to get liksang to start shipping Alpha 3!

[Sharp-kun]

Mission 3, Kusuha Route.

The gangs all back together at the Orbit Base.

Kaiser, Shin, Jeeg, Great, Nu, Z, ZZ, GP03 etc

[Gaizokubanou]

How much of the animations are from previous titles? Plenty of brand new ones?