Super Robot Wars Alpha 3

[Sharp-kun]

How much of the animations are from previous titles? Plenty of brand new ones?
Most of the @2 returnees so far have had the same animations reused, though some have been changed or tweaked.

[Sharp-kun]

King J-Der pwns.

Even gets its own theme :D

[CrossboneGundam]

King J-Der pwns.

Even gets its own theme :D

Soldat J FTW?

[RPGZeta]

GRAB IT WHILE IT'S STILL UP!

http://s13.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1QGPKMJA8XNDZ2C3SQXU5F35GH

Oh man, oh man, oh man, oh ****ing man, that is ****ing AWESOME! I am officially a Kouvley and Dis Astranagun fanboy! I always siad that Ingram and Magus were tied for the best cut-ins, ever, but now Kouvley beat the hell out of both of theirs, nevermind that Kouvley is using a part of Ingram's cut-in. My God, Kouvley is going to be my first choice.

*Mimics Ingram and Kouvley's cut in motion*

[CrossboneGundam]

GRAB IT WHILE IT'S STILL UP!

http://s13.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1QGPKMJA8XNDZ2C3SQXU5F35GH

Oh man, oh man, oh man, oh ****ing man, that is ****ing AWESOME! I am officially a Kouvley and Dis Astranagun fanboy! I always siad that Ingram and Magus were tied for the best cut-ins, ever, but now Kouvley beat the hell out of both of theirs, nevermind that Kouvley is using a part of Ingram's cut-in. My God, Kouvley is going to be my first choice.

*Mimics Ingram and Kouvley's cut in motion*

You've got my eternal thanks. If you're ever in need of a kidney or bone marrow, don't hesitate to call.

It's also pretty cool that it seems as though I'm getting my wish at least partially granted.

Also, I was just thinking it would be cool if Ingram was one of the Banpresto Original protaganists, somehow.

Edit: Jesus H. Motherfreaking Christ in a Chicken Basket. That's the most awesomest thing ever. You didn't mention that it's even got a remix of Astranagun's theme, not to mention the freaking Ingram cameo and the hair color change... which I can only presume means that Quovley IS Ingram in some way or another. I'm literally crying tears of joy, here. You are officially my lord and savior, RPGZeta.

[Sharp-kun]

The new SRX.

The coolest thing SRW has ever had.

[CrossboneGundam]

The new SRX.

The coolest thing SRW has ever had.

Tch... I wish liksang would stop sucking and start shipping. How far into it are you, scenario number-wise?

[Sharp-kun]

Tch... I wish liksang would stop sucking and start shipping. How far into it are you, scenario number-wise?
Scenario 44. Just got Shin Koryuoh and SRX.

I get the feeling (well, certaintly rather) that SRX has far more attacks than I have yet. Its strongest move only needs 120 morale at this stage ;)

King J-Der's ultimate is also well worth watching every time, especially if its a kill (you don't get it till the final battle with the 11 Masters though).

Goldion Crusher has no special limitations on it. Once you hit 140 morale, smash away. :D Both ALL and MAP weapons are available (the MAP needs 150 morale though)

[CrossboneGundam]

Scenario 44... Sounds like this is gonna be a long game. I've been getting into GGG recently, too, and now I want to play Touma's route, as well... jeez. Not to mention Macross 7.

I don't know the whole story behind it, so I could just be saying something stupid, but is GaoFighGar in Alpha 3 at all?


SHIIIIIIIP!!!!! GAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!!

[Sharp-kun]

I don't know the whole story behind it, so I could just be saying something stupid, but is GaoFighGar in Alpha 3 at all?
Yes. Nothing that special though.

[Sharp-kun]

Actually, there may be some limitations on Goldion Crusher. After my last use it vanished from the menu ^^;;;;

[CrossboneGundam]

Actually, there may be some limitations on Goldion Crusher. After my last use it vanished from the menu ^^;;;;

:lol: Going overboard, huh?

At least GaoFighGar is cool looking, though.

[Sharp-kun]

SRX and Bullet both have specific lines against STMC. I assume other originals do as well.

The Balmar have dialogue against Ideon.

[Gaizokubanou]

Most of the @2 returnees so far have had the same animations reused, though some have been changed or tweaked.

Ah darn. Well, at least Alpha 2 had pretty good animations for most part.

[Sharp-kun]

The Balmar have a Death Star.

Oh, and Eternal is fun as a battleship.

[Sharp-kun]

ZOMG! Aya plot twist!

[Sharp-kun]

Some lines missing, since I can't type quickly enough, and there's at least two variations on this, so I won't always get the same one.

<Ryussei> Everyone, use the One Shot Sure Kill Cannon!
<Viletta> No problem, Sequence begin!
<Mai> Rodger! T-LINK Full Contact!
<Viletta> R-GUN, Metal Genocider Mode!
<Viletta> Connect!
<Rai> Tronium Engine Overdrive. Bypass complete.
<Mai> Target, Final Lock!
<Rai> Safety released.
<Aya> Ryu! Do it!
<Ryussei> Lets go... One Shot Sure Kill... Hyper Tronium Buster Cannon!!!

:D :D :D

The coolest attack in the game.

[CrossboneGundam]

So, Aya's NOT dead? According to the UPS tracking, I'll have Alpha 3 tomorrow, Monday. :D

[MagicianCamille]

According to the UPS tracking, I'll have Alpha 3 tomorrow, Monday. :D

Me too. :)

EDIT: RPGZeta too.

[Gaizokubanou]

grrr i got my flip top today... but no boot disc!

ahhh help!

[Sharp-kun]

The scene at the core of the Black Hole Bomb is excellent. They even recorded the dialgoue for it. :D Its not just Gunbuster.

[CrossboneGundam]

I finally got Alpha 3 today. I tried everyone's first scenario since I couldn't decide who I wanted to go with, and the decision was Serena, who's absolutely freaking awesome.

[Sharp-kun]

On the final stage. I've got friends over just now, so I'll finish it later ^_^

[CrossboneGundam]

On the final stage. I've got friends over just now, so I'll finish it later ^_^

That took you what, less than a week? :P You've obviously been busy...

Do you know what the "Guidance Mode" choice you're presented with when starting the game is about?

[Sharp-kun]

That took you what, less than a week? :P You've obviously been busy...

Do you know what the "Guidance Mode" choice you're presented with when starting the game is about?
Can't remember. I skipped it ^^;;

[Tiran]

I think its if you want to play the tutorial at the start.

I'm up to scenarion 23 On Kushuas route, so far the game is awesome.

[Sharp-kun]

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-8/46940/htbsequence.jpg

It pwns.

On a terrible note, my PS2 is giving me disc read errors, so I can't finish the game. >_< Need to open it up and poke it later.

[Sharp-kun]

PS2 fixed.

The final boss scares me. A lot.

[Sharp-kun]

That battle rocked. It seems almost every character (major ones at least) has some line against the boss. The HTB Sequence also had at least 3 lines aimed at him in it when I used it on him. There's also a special line Cosmo has when firing the Ideon Gun at him

Once he's reduced enough, he regenerates about 120,000 HP. Various battlships then show up to cheer everyone on. Amongst them are Relena, Gloval and Minmei
Amuro sees the ghost of Char, Kusuha and Aya see Ingram, Camille sees Quattro, Judau sees Haman, Shinji and Rei see Kaworu. Kouji and Tetsuya see Kenzou, the Getter team see Musashi. Others see various people. Everyones cheered on, and the instrumental version of Gong starts to play (I think its meant to be the Sound Force playing it, supported by Mic and Minmei). The Ideon Guage fills up and *** is kicked.

[Sharp-kun]

Extra Hard mode is unlocked after finishing once. Looks like there's a special mode once you finish that, like in OG2 :D

[CrossboneGundam]

I guess I'm the only one who doesn't play non-stop... I'm only up to stage 15. The zaft side missions with Serena weren't particularly interesting, because they completely watered down the Alpha Numbers. Camille is literally the only one that's not easy to beat. Anyway, I'm glad those stages are over. Dancougar's pretty flashy, but I still don't like it. :D

[Sharp-kun]

I guess I'm the only one who doesn't play non-stop... I'm only up to stage 15. The zaft side missions with Serena weren't particularly interesting, because they completely watered down the Alpha Numbers. Camille is literally the only one that's not easy to beat. Anyway, I'm glad those stages are over. Dancougar's pretty flashy, but I still don't like it. :D
Try extra hard mode when you get it.

Dancouga rocks when it becomes Final Dancouga later on.

[MagicianCamille]

What side missions? :huh:

[Gaizokubanou]

Grrr I'll be getting my copy soon at least... probably tommorown :)

What are the bonus extras when you beat the game?

[Sharp-kun]

Grrr I'll be getting my copy soon at least... probably tommorown :)

What are the bonus extras when you beat the game?
Extra Hard mode, and money and PP carries over on replays.

Gaining morale in that is a *****.

[CrossboneGundam]

What side missions? :huh:

As in "on Zaft's side."

And as for morale being a *****, I didn't bother to check in normal, but in hard mode everyone only gets the +1 morale gain for a kill when an enemy squad is taken out. Is it like that in normal, or is it specific to hard mode? And obviously it's even less in extra hard, presumably.

[Gaizokubanou]

lol that sounds interesting... does taking a hit give you +1 to morale still in the hard mode? Cause at least that could give you steady source of your morale.

[Sharp-kun]

lol that sounds interesting... does taking a hit give you +1 to morale still in the hard mode? Cause at least that could give you steady source of your morale.
Not in extra hard mode as far as I've seen.

[Gaizokubanou]

Oh crap, that sounds like it might really be hard...

Does the difficulty reminds any of you of the good old SRW F days? (sry for all these questions... still a whole night away from getting my copy + magic swap dvd)

[Blue Thunder]

My copy shiped on the 29th of August. I can hardly wait for it to get here.

[Gaizokubanou]

My copy shiped on the 29th of August. I can hardly wait for it to get here.

It's 3rd of August :P You mean July?

[Sharp-kun]

Does the difficulty reminds any of you of the good old SRW F days?
Yes. I'm afraid of the later fights with the STMC. Some of the big STMC units have 190,000+ HP normally, in EX hard mode all enemies get a 50% upgrade to all stats. You can't upgrade weapons, so they're going to be tough to take down. Especially in the 2nd and 3rd last stages where you have to take them down quickly or its game over.


Rough notes on EX Hard Mode:

- No weapon upgrades.

- Pilots skill and stat upgrades cost 2x as much PP.

- Morale is harder to get.

- All enemies have stats and weapons upgraded 50%

- Unit upgrades might cost more, not checked.

[CrossboneGundam]

If you don't get weapon upgrades, how is it possible to even damage certain enemies, especially ones who have damage nullifying barriers and such?

[Gaizokubanou]

Whoa that sounds pretty damn tough.

It looks good though, as that should keep me busy for a while :)

Even without no weapons upgrade I'm sure it's possible... it'll just take tedious management over your super robots for their fuels and morales for their super attacks.

[Sharp-kun]

If you don't get weapon upgrades, how is it possible to even damage certain enemies, especially ones who have damage nullifying barriers and such?
The same way you do in OG2's EX Hard Mode. Hot Blood or Soul.

And theres no Attacker, Infight or Gunfight to help out this time.

[Gaizokubanou]

Grrr my swap magic 3.6 is not working!!!

[CrossboneGundam]

The same way you do in OG2's EX Hard Mode. Hot Blood or Soul.

And theres no Attacker, Infight or Gunfight to help out this time.

That doesn't sound very fun... Especially against enemies with HP in the hundreds of thousands AND HP regen.

[Gaizokubanou]

Wheee I got my copy running...

the visual got some upgrades, like the menus are in much higher resolutions, and you can exit the combat scene in the middle of it! Woot!

[CrossboneGundam]

Wheee I got my copy running...

the visual got some upgrades, like the menus are in much higher resolutions, and you can exit the combat scene in the middle of it! Woot!

Battle demo skipping has been around for a while, now...

And on a Macross specific note, it's nice that they put "Information High" in the game. So long, "Dog Fight"!

[Sharp-kun]

Battle demo skipping has been around for a while, now...

And on a Macross specific note, it's nice that they put "Information High" in the game. So long, "Dog Fight"!
Nah, I prefer Dogfight.

I give Heero "Ace Attacker" XD

[Sharp-kun]

Random stuff I've noticed since getting the game:

- All major characters have lines against the STMC.

- I think Amuro has lines against the Balmar, I thought I heard one today, but wasn't paying attention.

- Heero, as always in @, has the most non generic phrases. :D

[Gaizokubanou]

Battle demo skipping has been around for a while, now...

Really? Because I tried @2 before my @3 came in, and it didn't let me leave the battle scene while in middle of it. How odd.

[CrossboneGundam]

Really? Because I tried @2 before my @3 came in, and it didn't let me leave the battle scene while in middle of it. How odd.

OG, OG2, D, and MX had it, but not Alpha 2.

[lord_jinnai]

Ok I must say that I am already addicted to this game and will be getting back to it when I am finished this post. last night my characters voices started kicking out. I hope that reseting the system will fix that. ANd a flip top? boy guys will try anything to play a game that they want. dont worry I know how you feel.

[CrossboneGundam]

So, the Virtual-on characters are farking awesome.

And.... I'm presuming it's in all the games except Kusuha's, though it might be in Kusuha's... Shin Ryujinki appeared just recently with the Balmar, piloted by that guy with the white suit and hat, whose name I can't read because it's all kanji. Are the Shin Choukijin from the Balmar homeworld and associated with the Balmar Guneden?

[Tiran]

It appears more in Kusuha's route, I think hes from earth and is just siding with the Balmar.

[Gaizokubanou]

Is Strike Gundam now the most upgrade efficient unit? The Strike upgrades carry over to Freedom, Justice, Strike Rouge, Buster, maybe even more! (I didn't get Izak on my side yet but maybe same applies for his Gundam).

I'm still a bit sad that I missed the Nue Ziel...

[CrossboneGundam]

All the secret units are still shady rumors at best, as far as I'm aware. And I don't think Strike's upgrades carry over to Buster.

Meanwhile, Serena's second unit, Alegrias(?) is awesome, and its map attack is something to be feared. That thing is just about capable of clearing an entire map in the one shot it's got.

[Sharp-kun]

Is Strike Gundam now the most upgrade efficient unit? The Strike upgrades carry over to Freedom, Justice, Strike Rouge, Buster, maybe even more! (I didn't get Izak on my side yet but maybe same applies for his Gundam).
I would prioritise Gaogaigar/Gaofaigar more. Its upgrades carry over to both Genesic Gaogaigar and King J-Der. Both are excellent units, especially if you get J-Phoenix.

[Sharp-kun]

Well, on my 2nd playthrough, I've ended up with stage 57 being the end. Its the Ideon ending stage, and its all going to hell.

[Sharp-kun]

And there goes the universe.

THE END.

[CrossboneGundam]

So, "Ware koto wa Baran Doban" is the most addicting song I've heard in a very long time.
And the original Ace Attacker was a nice reward for playing through some of those extra scenarios in the flowchart.

"Ware koto waaaaaaa! Ware koto waaaaaaaa! Ba-ra-n Do-BAN!"

Can't argue with that....

[Gaizokubanou]

All the secret units are still shady rumors at best, as far as I'm aware. And I don't think Strike's upgrades carry over to Buster.


Buster gets Strike's upgrades.

From reading many different posts though I think Nue Ziel is obtainable... I got my GP02 at least anyway(is that eve a secret unit?).

[Sharp-kun]

Buster gets Strike's upgrades.

From reading many different posts though I think Nue Ziel is obtainable... I got my GP02 at least anyway(is that eve a secret unit?).
Yep. Burning, Monsha, Bate & Adel's kills all together must total 100 by Scenario 36 to get it.

[Gaizokubanou]

Yessss I got it!

I met the requirement afterall, but I just misunderstood it because I thought I was going to get it at stage 37. I got it with that orange MS from ZZ around stage 45 or so. Too bad Nue Ziel got nerfed badly, but it looks sweet and at least that MS from ZZ is pretty damn good :)

Just for those who haven't got those two secret goodies yet, Nue Ziel gets upgrades on GP 03 and the orange MS from ZZ seems to get ZZ Gundam's upgrades.

But I can't believe I missed out on Hi-Nu :(

And I think Evas got a nice improvements in this game... is the lance for Eva 00 infinite, like I can keep using it as long as I rearm Eva 00?

Khaiser Nova owns :)

[Dr. Nick]

A n00bie question: Does the storyline of the Alpha series connect to any of the older SRW games, or are they all independent story universes?

[Sharp-kun]

A n00bie question: Does the storyline of the Alpha series connect to any of the older SRW games, or are they all independent story universes?
There is basically:

The original timeline (SRW 2, 3, EX, F, F Final (4 was there, but F and F Final replaced it)
Alpha (Alpha, Alpha Gaiden, Alpha 2, Alpha 3)

The other games have little continuity, though some things you can make fit if you really try.

[Sharp-kun]

And I think Evas got a nice improvements in this game... is the lance for Eva 00 infinite, like I can keep using it as long as I rearm Eva 00?

Khaiser Nova owns :)
The lance seems to be lost after the 3rd Impact stage.

[Blue Thunder]

Where can I find a guide and/or level flow chart?

[Sharp-kun]

GameFAQS have none up yet, though walkthroughs are being put together. Only level chart I saw was in chinese, and I can't remember the link.

[CrossboneGundam]

There is a chart ingame in the options menu, though I don't see why you'd need one, since there are never more than two route options (as far as I'm aware) and you get to save before deciding a route.

I just got Banpreios about 20 minutes ago, pretty badass.

[Tiran]

Theres a 4 way split later on.

[Sharp-kun]

I just got Banpreios about 20 minutes ago, pretty badass.
Wait till it gets its two big moves ;)

[Gaizokubanou]

Ok it's bit confusing since I got my Hi-Nu Gundam with Sazabi much later then when lot of other people got them (they claim that they got it with Nue Ziel). I got my Hi-Nu around 50+ stages, and I don't know which unit Sazabi shares its upgrades with, because mine came without any upgrades.

I'm guessing that there are many points in the game where you can recieve the secret mechs, and you them as soon as you reach the requirement and reach one of those points...

Who is Banpreios? BTW I'm really liking that original mech with the huge metal ball... simple in design but still cool :)

[CrossboneGundam]

Ok it's bit confusing since I got my Hi-Nu Gundam with Sazabi much later then when lot of other people got them (they claim that they got it with Nue Ziel). I got my Hi-Nu around 50+ stages, and I don't know which unit Sazabi shares its upgrades with, because mine came without any upgrades.

I'm guessing that there are many points in the game where you can recieve the secret mechs, and you them as soon as you reach the requirement and reach one of those points...

Who is Banpreios? BTW I'm really liking that original mech with the huge metal ball... simple in design but still cool :)

There are never "many points in the game where you can receive the secret mechs," as I'm sure there isn't in Alpha 3. And Banpreios is the SRX upgrade... And Bemidoban is the name of Baran Doban's unit.

[Gaizokubanou]

The new SRX mech? That thing looks like they over killed it with details imo.

On my second run through the game I'll get to confirm whether my theory is correct or not.

Anyone know how to get Eva type-F or something like that? Or does that secret even exist? I've read that the requirements are to let the Evas kill all 3 angels... but I've done that and nothing happened.

[Tiran]

You seem to need to let shinji kill all of the angels and the dummy plug eva 01, I missed out on some angels because of route choices.

I seem to have got hi nu but no Sazabi, oh well, no idea who I'd have given it to anyway.

[CrossboneGundam]

If I was even far enough to get it, I'd give Sazabi to Camille, since Zeta's not really standing up to the test of time right now... But it's refreshing that I can play without using any Gundams, for once. Macross 7 routes tend to make me not care that there aren't any Gundams around. :naughty:

[Sharp-kun]

The new SRX mech? That thing looks like they over killed it with details imo.
Not really. I personally love it to death. Same with Shin Ryukooh. :D :D :D

[CrossboneGundam]

Speaking of Shin... The name of the guy with the hat and the apparent bald spot who pilots Shin Ryuouki is Son Ganlong, isn't it?

I think Banpreios looks pretty good, myself, though it kind of bothers me that the Banpresto logo is blatantly and cheesily featured in some of it's attacks. I realize Banpreios and Ryusei are Banpresto's collective avatar in the world of SRW, but jeez, guys, take a slice of Humble Pie or something!

[Tiran]

Yes, thats Son Ganlong.

I dunno, it wouldnt bother me so much if the banpresto logo wasnt in its single most used attack.

[Sharp-kun]

I think Banpreios looks pretty good, myself, though it kind of bothers me that the Banpresto logo is blatantly and cheesily featured in some of it's attacks. I realize Banpreios and Ryusei are Banpresto's collective avatar in the world of SRW, but jeez, guys, take a slice of Humble Pie or something!
Its always been like that. The original had the same with Gaun Genocider - when it hit you heard the Banpresto theme.
Doesn't really bother me. ^_^

[Gaizokubanou]

You seem to need to let shinji kill all of the angels and the dummy plug eva 01, I missed out on some angels because of route choices.

I seem to have got hi nu but no Sazabi, oh well, no idea who I'd have given it to anyway.

Ah damn it, I let Rei kill the cube angel with her gun for the sake of matching the anime because shinji doesn't have that weapon... :(

So requirements are different for Sazabi and Hi-Nu? That's interesting.

Oh and Quin Mantha gets all the upgrades from either of the Qubeley... I don't know which one for sure because I had my Qubeleys upgraded identical to each other.

Nue Ziel, GP02(is this one even a secret?) Sazabi, Geymark and Quin Mantha are all of the gundam related secret mechs I've found so far, and Quin Mantha takes the spot for me for being the best one out of them because of its L size and newtype weapons. GP02 has very cheap all attack though, and Geymark is also pretty damn powerful, although I think it doesn't have any decent post move attack.

[Sharp-kun]

Requirements for some (lifted from SRWG)

1. Hi-Nu Gundam:
- Amuro must have 50 kills by Scenario 37.

2. Sazabi:
- Camille or Judau must have 50 kills by Scenario 37.

3. Neue Ziel:
- Kou must have 50 kills by Scenario 37.
- Eis says: By Scenario 52, Kou must have 40 more kills than Keith.

4. GP-02:
- Burning, Monsha, Bate & Adel's combined total kill count all must be 100 or more by Scenario 36.

5. Haman's Quebeley:
- By Scenario 45 or 52, Puru and Puru Two's combined total kill count difference must be 0 or the LAST DIGIT must be 0.

6. Quin Mantha:
- By Scenario 45 or 52, Puru and Puru Two's combined total kill count's LAST DIGIT must be 5.

7. Mass Produced Quebeley (2 units):
- By Scenario 45 or 52, Puru and Puru Two's combined total kill count's LAST DIGIT must be 7.

8. Dobenwolf:
- By Scenario 45 or 52, Beecha and Mondo's combined total kill count difference must be below 5 or the LAST DIGIT must be 0.

9. Geymalk:
- By Scenario 45 or 52, Beecha and Mondo's combined total kill count's LAST DIGIT must be 5.

[Tiran]

Im pretty sure my puru's last digit was 0 by the scenario but diddnt get Quebely, but maybe I'm wrong.

[CrossboneGundam]

So, I just fought Gepelnich; the whole Protodeviln thing (Kaiser Nova with hot blood and Mazin Power active: roughly 9800 damage, out of over 250,000. :D ) and lack of Fire Bomber for story reasons, on top of Gepelnich's appearing after the defeat of the other Protodeviln enemies made it a decent challenge, not to mention his decent accuracy. He even used seishin once. Not quite Alpha Gaiden, but seems like we might be getting somewhere.

[RPGZeta]

I've beaten the game once and am on the verge of beating it a second time.

Here are how to get the endings:
Ending A: The standard ending.
Ending B: The "true" ending I hear. To get this, you must complete the game with 57 or more skill points and finish in 420 turns or less.
Ending C: The BAD ending. To get this, you must beat the game once, and on your new game, on stage 41, choose "War" (top choose) and on stage 56 after you stick the Solo Ship next to the Buff Clan flagship you must choose "War" (top choice). This will allow a new stage 57 to pop up for the bad Ideon ending.

Oh, and I agree "Ware Koso Wa Baran Doban" is helluva addicting.

Oh, and this game has a plot connection to MX. Kaworu says to Basara that in his past life the song of an ancient god machine (he went into more detail about this) had a great effect on him. He is referencing RahXephon. Apparently, whenver Kaworu dies, he is reincarnated in another dimension, and he believes in the power of music after hearing Basara's song. It's REALLY too bad you only get him for one stage in here . . .

Oh, and Crossbone, nice avatar. I love Cobray and Dis Astranagun to death. Irui even says that Dis Astranagun has as much power as Ideon. O.o

[CrossboneGundam]

So, anyone know what the story behind the crazy Alpha 3 version of the Third Impact is? Now we've got two Eva 01's and Kaworu piloting 00 and fighting alongside the Alpha Numbers against whatever evil scheme Gendou has in mind?

[RPGZeta]

Like I said, Kaworu died, was reborn in MX timeline, heard RahXephon's song, died again, and somehow ended up back in Alpha timeline. Completely serious.

Apparently, Seele is somehow able to possess Eva-01 and perform Third Impact and are almost even succesful (everyone was turned into FLCL for at least a short amount of time). Gendou is going along with it because he wants to see Yui again. Kaworu now believes in humanity after hearing RahXephon and now Basara's song, so he helps out. I have no clue how there are two Eva-01s, however.

[Gaizokubanou]

There are never "many points in the game where you can receive the secret mechs," as I'm sure there isn't in Alpha 3. And Banpreios is the SRX upgrade... And Bemidoban is the name of Baran Doban's unit.

Check the gamefaqs forum... looks like my theory may be right afterall. Many different people are posting when they got their secret mechs are there are lot of incidents with different stages, including that poor sob who got his FAZZ at stage 59 ROFL.

Oh man I would be so pissed off if I got anything new at stage 59 lol.

[Sharp-kun]

Check the gamefaqs forum... looks like my theory may be right afterall. Many different people are posting when they got their secret mechs are there are lot of incidents with different stages, including that poor sob who got his FAZZ at stage 59 ROFL.
Sure they haven't just not noticed they had them until then?


Anyway:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-8/46940/portrait00151.gif

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

First thing I thought of when I saw that ^^;;;

[Gaizokubanou]

lol that picture just doesn't look right. :P

[The Million Dollar Prons]

In the bad ending, does Ideon destroy everyone and everything with it's wrist blades of d00m?

[RPGZeta]

More secrets:

Millia's VF-1J: In the stage Millia pilots her VF-1J, you have to get Millia to a total of 30 kills in the stage she pilots it.

RaGOH: In the same stage, DaCosta and Andy must get their total kills to over 10. I nthe next stage, Kira must beat Andy.

[Gaizokubanou]

Hmm i read this in Gamefaqs board that if you beat the game on Ex-Hard mode, you get a new mode which allows you to upgrade your units weapons up to lvl 15, and have all units cost 0.5 for squad.

Is this true?!?!?!

[Sharp-kun]

Hmm i read this in Gamefaqs board that if you beat the game on Ex-Hard mode, you get a new mode which allows you to upgrade your units weapons up to lvl 15, and have all units cost 0.5 for squad.

Is this true?!?!?!
Yes. Thats why its called "special mode" ;) Its for playing with ^^;;

[CrossboneGundam]

It was really awesome how Ryoma, Akira and Gai showed up at the core of the black hole bomb along with Noriko and Kazumi and there was a big fully voiced scene there. :D

[Sharp-kun]

It was really awesome how Ryoma, Akira and Gai showed up at the core of the black hole bomb along with Noriko and Kazumi and there was a big fully voiced scene there. :D
Yes, yes it was. I bounced during that ^^;;;

[Sharp-kun]

Puru 2, in the GP03, "Realise" as her theme.

Joy.

[CrossboneGundam]

Joy, huh?

At any rate... I'm going with Cobray for my first replay. Thanks to Serena's obscenely powerful map weapon, he started with 645 PP.

[CrossboneGundam]

It's not thread necromancy since I haven't stopped playing this game!

Started from scratch with Cobray, having fun with hard mode, and I recently got Dis Astranagun. I know some people disagree, but... I think it looks better than the original.

http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/6655/disastranagun6mu.th.jpg (http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/6655/disastranagun6mu.jpg)

I haven't gotten the real ending in the first OG yet (sad, yeah,) so I don't know for sure, but Astranagun wasn't in it, was it? Ingram had that ugly R-Gun Rivale, right?

[Sharp-kun]

Started from scratch with Cobray, having fun with hard mode, and I recently got Dis Astranagun. I know some people disagree, but... I think it looks better than the original.
My main problem with it isn't the design itself, I just don't think it suits Astranagun. Ingram's motives were questionable, but he wasn't evil. The Astranagun had a sinister ominous look to it, but not enough that it sceamed "Bad Guy!!". It had that subtle edge to it.

Dis Astranagun just seems OTT, especially since Cobray doesn't have the sinister edge Ingram did. They've taken the "death" style too far in the design.

Plus its tiny compared to the original. Its less than half the size, which bugs me since it was a kind of counterpart to SRX. It just doesn't feel like Astranagun.

I would have rather Cobray got the original, with shinier animation.
I haven't gotten the real ending in the first OG yet (sad, yeah,) so I don't know for sure, but Astranagun wasn't in it, was it? Ingram had that ugly R-Gun Rivale, right?
Just R-GUN Rival.

[CrossboneGundam]

My main problem with it isn't the design itself, I just don't think it suits Astranagun. Ingram's motives were questionable, but he wasn't evil. The Astranagun had a sinister ominous look to it, but not enough that it sceamed "Bad Guy!!". It had that subtle edge to it.

Dis Astranagun just seems OTT, especially since Cobray doesn't have the sinister edge Ingram did. They've taken the "death" style too far in the design.

Plus its tiny compared to the original. Its less than half the size, which bugs me since it was a kind of counterpart to SRX. It just doesn't feel like Astranagun.

I would have rather Cobray got the original, with shinier animation.

Just R-GUN Rival.

I do agree that the style is a bit over the top, but I'm blaming that on the flashy design sense of whatever Golar Golem people turned Werkbau into Dis Astranagun, since I don't really have a problem with it. As for size, I'm blaming that on the fact that half of Astranagun fused with Cobray's Valk Ben, which I believe is considerably smaller anyway.

I didn't like some of the proportions on the original Astranagun, for some reason... The head and the upper arms looked weird to me. The overall style was really cool, but somehow I like Dis more.

At any rate, I wonder how exactly they'll get Cobray into the next OG game. I don't particularly want to see Dis R-Gun Rivale... :lol:

[lord_jinnai]

So, "Ware koto wa Baran Doban" is the most addicting song I've heard in a very long time.
And the original Ace Attacker was a nice reward for playing through some of those extra scenarios in the flowchart.

"Ware koto waaaaaaa! Ware koto waaaaaaaa! Ba-ra-n Do-BAN!"

Can't argue with that....

If I am not mistaken that means "we art Baran Doban! Recognize yo!" ;)

[Char Aznable]

Where can i find it to buy it?

[Soluzar]

Where can i find it to buy it?

If your location is accurate, any large games store in Japan should have at least some chance of having a copy of an SRW game in stock. If it's just whimsy on your part, then you need to see the good people at Play-Asia.com because they still stock the whole SRW Alpha series.

[CrossboneGundam]

If your location is accurate, any large games store in Japan should have at least some chance of having a copy of an SRW game in stock. If it's just whimsy on your part, then you need to see the good people at Play-Asia.com because they still stock the whole SRW Alpha series.

liksang.com and ncsx.com, too. Although ncsx's shipping prices are extreme to the point of absurdity.

Since this thread is back from the dead, and since I'm still playing Alpha 3 more or less, I thought I'd mention that I really wish Banpresto hadn't tried to make First Gundam, Zeta, ZZ and Char's Counterattack occur more or less simultaneously in the Alpha timeline.

[Sharp-kun]

liksang.com and ncsx.com, too. Although ncsx's shipping prices are extreme to the point of absurdity.

Since this thread is back from the dead, and since I'm still playing Alpha 3 more or less, I thought I'd mention that I really wish Banpresto hadn't tried to make First Gundam, Zeta, ZZ and Char's Counterattack occur more or less simultaneously in the Alpha timeline.
To be fair, First Gundam was almost entirely before Alpha, they just carried it on afterwards.

[CrossboneGundam]

To be fair, First Gundam was almost entirely before Alpha, they just carried it on afterwards.

Yeah, I know. But it makes no sense to have the Zabis running around causing trouble at the same time Haman is doing the same and Quattro's a member of the AEUG...

I think ideally they should have started with Zeta, wrapped it up midway through the game, start up ZZ, after a little while bring Camille back from veggie town, and then wrap up with ZZ before finally moving on to CCA in Alpha 2.

While we're on the subject of ZOMG TIME PARADOX!!!111, do you know how Banpresto explains Guld's existence with Macross and Macross Plus happening in Alpha at the same time?

[CrossboneGundam]

I know it's bad to do the double posting, but I want to bump the thread...

I finished stage 55 just a while ago, and I was wondering if anyone knew the title of Shiva's BGM, since I'm not currently at home and thus can't go pop in the game to check, assuming the song's title is in romaji.

And I wanted to mention that when attacking Gevel Guneden with Fei Yen, she called it "GebuGebu-kun." :lol:

[Akino]

You mean ZEST SEVEN?
That melody is still repeating on my head even after I finished the game in last summer -_-;

[Sharp-kun]

It is indeed Zest Seven. One of the better boss themes SRW has had.

[CrossboneGundam]

Yeahh... But pretty much all the Original boss themes in Alpha 3 are great.

[Sharp-kun]

Playing through the final battle again just now. I love that fight.

To protect everyone's Earth! Keisar Ephes, I'll take you down!
Keisar Ephes..! I'll kill you.
Keisar Ephes! The power of Getter, I'll make you remember it!
Target, Keisar Ephes! Ideon Gun, Fire!
The atmosphere is excellent.
Yeahh... But pretty much all the Original boss themes in Alpha 3 are great.
The only one I didn't like was Ruachs (Twin Idol). I didn't care for it as a boss theme in @2, and didn't like it in @3.

Only thing I wish was that the Judecca clones got Arrow of Destiny as a theme. ^^;;

[CrossboneGundam]

Playing through the final battle again just now. I love that fight.





The atmosphere is excellent.

The only one I didn't like was Ruachs (Twin Idol). I didn't care for it as a boss theme in @2, and didn't like it in @3.

Only thing I wish was that the Judecca clones got Arrow of Destiny as a theme. ^^;;

Yeah, Twin Idol isn't very impressive.

My favorite boss theme in the game is The Witch Dances Seductively, despite the fact that Etwila is weak and annoying... That theme deserves a much tougher boss to represent.

But what do you mean by Judecca clones? Enemies like Philadelphia (best name for an alien military commander ever, btw) Judecca Gozzo? Vaikran? Or is there something I've missed big time?

[Sharp-kun]

But what do you mean by Judecca clones? Enemies like Philadelphia (best name for an alien military commander ever, btw) Judecca Gozzo? Vaikran? Or is there something I've missed big time?
Ephesus Judecca Gozzo
Smyrna Judecca Gozzo
Pergamum Judecca Gozzo
Thyatira Judecca Gozzo
Sardis Judecca Gozzo
Philadelphia Judecca Gozzo
Laodicea Judecca Gozz

The Sentai Commanders ;)

[CrossboneGundam]

Its cool how Kaiser Ephes will sometimes say lines from appropriate Mizuki Ichiro songs when you attack him with Mazinger, Getter, Great, etc...

[lord_jinnai]

Sharp kun
thank you for your help. She watched it and got a good Idea it seems.　
you might be seeing Irui soon. :naughty:

and who here thinks that banpresto ought to upgrade the older Impact title with the swr a3 menue and battle system?

[Soluzar]

and who here thinks that banpresto ought to upgrade the older Impact title with the swr a3 menue and battle system?
It would be great if they remade EVERY older SRW game using the Alpha 3 engine, but it would take a long time, and they probably won't do it.

[CrossboneGundam]

I've never been a big fan of the platoon system. It can get pretty tedious.

Add to that the fact that Impact was roughly 100 stages, and you've got a pretty bad deal.

[Soluzar]

I've never been a big fan of the platoon system. It can get pretty tedious.

I would want them to adjust the Alpha 3 engine to allow single unit deployment rather than platoons if they did decide to use it for remakes of older titles. Better yet, use the new Original Generations for PS2 engine. That won't have a platoon system.

[MagicianCamille]

The platoon system is awesome. :blink:

You really need to do better. Both of you.

[Char Aznable]

Hows the platoon system on SRWA3 compared to say ZF or Ace 2?

[MagicianCamille]

Hows the platoon system on SRWA3 compared to say ZF or Ace 2?

Incredibly different. :lol:

This isn't an action game, boy.

[Char Aznable]

Who do you think your talking to young one?

[Soluzar]

Will you two stop flirting?

[MagicianCamille]

I can't help it. I burn with desire for Char!

One of these days I need to fix my PS2 so I can play this game again....ehhh, I'll do it later(Ver. 17).

[The Million Dollar Prons]

Char is alive?! CHAR!!

[lord_jinnai]

I've never been a big fan of the platoon system. It can get pretty tedious.

Add to that the fact that Impact was roughly 100 stages, and you've got a pretty bad deal.
NO
I think that because it is a hundred stages the platoon system would help get more robots on the field.

[CrossboneGundam]

NO
I think that because it is a hundred stages the platoon system would help get more robots on the field.

What on earth are you talking about? What makes you think that would be a good thing? A hundred stages with 3-4x more units in each? That's just ludicrous, not to mention irrelevant to what I said.

[Tiran]

If the engine is built for it, the number of units per stage isn't an issue however many stages you have.
Though the animations for all the units in Impact, and all those stages that would be a lot of time and work. I don't see them doing that for another game on the PS2.

Dream on a similar vein, I would like to see alpha and alpha gaiden remade with updated graphics and hopefuly a squad system. Release it with alpha 2 and 3 as "Alpha Complete Collection" or something.

[Soluzar]

I'd rather not see the squad system forced onto games that were never designed around it. It would affect balance, and completely change the nature of the game.

[Sharp-kun]

Dream on a similar vein, I would like to see alpha and alpha gaiden remade with updated graphics and hopefuly a squad system. Release it with alpha 2 and 3 as "Alpha Complete Collection" or something.
Thats far more likely, given that many of Alpha's units were reanimated for Alpha 3.
Aslo there's precedent, with the Complete Box for the original timeline.

[lord_jinnai]

they did recently release a box set of alpha but they didnt update anything I think...
sadly.

[CrossboneGundam]

Ok?..

(filler.)

[Tiran]

they did recently release a box set of alpha but they didnt update anything I think...
sadly.

If they do an update, I would expect it to be a PS3 release.

[SuperHiko]

Since I have only seen the OGs in stores I imagine you are all playing the Jps version of the game?

Tis a bummer, I'd like to play these....but you know in a language I can understand.

[Soluzar]

Since I have only seen the OGs in stores I imagine you are all playing the Jps version of the game?
Yep. There's no American release planned for any of the other games. Just OG and OG2. Maybe future games in the OG franchise, but probably not any others.

It's a whole big licensing issue. It's not going away any time soon.

Tis a bummer, I'd like to play these....but you know in a language I can understand.There are story guides on the net, and the menus are really easy to follow. It's also very easy to read the pilot and unit names, since they are mostly written in katakana, which is not as complex as the rest of the text in the game. Most written Japanese uses Kanji, which is impossible to read without years of study.

Then there's the chance that some of the games might be fan-translated. SRW 3 for the SNES already has been, but it's not the best of the series. There are quite a few translations in progress, but none complete, and not for any of the newer games.