Battle Vixen

[hoo8myryce]

I just finish reading the first volume of this manga, and it seem weird. Everytime the character fights her clothes rip and all. Then the story seem to be like talking more about sex, then a story about fighting.

Is it just me or does everybody feel the same???

[venom112]

Well it is a story that focuses on tons of fan service, so it's not very surprising.

[White hell]

Is the manga longer than the anime (Ikkitousen) because the anime only has 13 episodes.

[KingNe!]

This manga was terrible, and tokopops adaption has too much vulgarity. Do yourself a favour and sell it on ebay like I did.

[Cotmweasel]

Is the manga longer than the anime (Ikkitousen) because the anime only has 13 episodes.

yes quite a bit... ;)

I think the Manga is quite a bit better then the series also I can't wait for more ^_^

oh if you like the author of Ikkitousen then he did a series called Battle Club.
its a little more uh.....graphic the Ikkitousen :naughty:

[Gibb]

Despite TokyoPop's vulgar adaptation of the Ikki Tousen manga, I actually like Battle Vixens quite a bit. Yuji Shiozaki's art is awesome, and I like the characters and their personalities. The whole clothes ripping thing is just fan service, through and through. It has nothing at all to do with the story.

If you like Battle Vixens, the obvious next step would be to check out Battle Club, which is another Yuji Shiozaki manga. It's even more over the top than Battle Vixens, if you can imagine, as far as fan service and adult situations go, but it's it's still fun to read. To be honest I wish there wasnt so much fan service because Yuji Shiozaki is an incredible artist, but his infatuation with big breasts and fan service seems to be hurting him more than helping him. Then again maybe I'm wrong, since Ikki Tousen merchandise is everywhere and the series seems to be popular enough.

Anyway some general info:
There are 8 volumes of Battle Vixens currently out by TokyoPop. 8 is not the last volume, but it's been out for quite a while (4 or 5 months) with no sign of a number 9 coming out anytime soon. The TV series is only 13 episodes, and is quite possibly the worst manga adaptation i've EVER seen. The stories hardly seem to relate, and some characters and most of the story seem completely absent from the series. My favorite character is Ryubi, who is a homophobic bookworm nerd girl. She shows up in volumn 7 of the manga, but she is nowhere to be found in the TV series. The series also has no main storyline in relation to Kanu, which is another of my favorite characters.

[White hell]

Despite TokyoPop's vulgar adaptation of the Ikki Tousen manga, I actually like Battle Vixens quite a bit. Yuji Shiozaki's art is awesome, and I like the characters and their personalities. The whole clothes ripping thing is just fan service, through and through. It has nothing at all to do with the story.

If you like Battle Vixens, the obvious next step would be to check out Battle Club, which is another Yuji Shiozaki manga. It's even more over the top than Battle Vixens, if you can imagine, as far as fan service and adult situations go, but it's it's still fun to read. To be honest I wish there wasnt so much fan service because Yuji Shiozaki is an incredible artist, but his infatuation with big breasts and fan service seems to be hurting him more than helping him. Then again maybe I'm wrong, since Ikki Tousen merchandise is everywhere and the series seems to be popular enough.

Anyway some general info:
There are 8 volumes of Battle Vixens currently out by TokyoPop. 8 is not the last volume, but it's been out for quite a while (4 or 5 months) with no sign of a number 9 coming out anytime soon. The TV series is only 13 episodes, and is quite possibly the worst manga adaptation i've EVER seen. The stories hardly seem to relate, and some characters and most of the story seem completely absent from the series. My favorite character is Ryubi, who is a homophobic bookworm nerd girl. She shows up in volumn 7 of the manga, but she is nowhere to be found in the TV series. The series also has no main storyline in relation to Kanu, which is another of my favorite characters.

Well, that's to be expected, anime always finds someway to ruin a manga.Thanks for the info, how much of the anime does the manga cover?

[Yoshio]

There are 8 volumes of Battle Vixens currently out by TokyoPop. 8 is not the last volume, but it's been out for quite a while (4 or 5 months) with no sign of a number 9 coming out anytime soon.
actually, 8 came out almost 12 months ago (last september), and 9 is due to be out this coming september

[Bradster]

I'd comment on the thread necromancy (2 years, wow) if I weren't collecting this title...

actually, 8 came out almost 12 months ago (last september), and 9 is due to be out this coming september
I found that out recently in one of my browsing sessions. I wonder if this is a case of actually catching up to the Japanese version of the manga? TP really puts their books out fast, and this delay was beyond anything I'd seen with other series of theirs.

Yeah, it's too bad about Kanu and Ryubi. The manga shows Kanu as something besides a stoic (and statuesque) warrior, as her job of protecting Ryubi (apparently all the schools have an equivalent to Sonsaku Hakufu that they protect as their ace-in-the-hole) exasperates her to no end sometimes.

The anime goes only to about Volume 5 of the manga (A is based on M, not the other way around), with significant differences as regards who does what to whom.

Gotta love some of those PVC statues of the girls. :wub:

[Cotmweasel]

Gotta love some of those PVC statues of the girls. :wub:


oh yeah :naughty:

[Ninja337]

It's called Ikkitousen. Battle Vixens is some **** Tokyopop made up, because they suck. I really don't like Tokyopop, I'd rather read scanlations than give money to them. The only reason everybody likes them is because they appease the yaoi fangirls. But they don't even do yaoi right. I think they might have renamed Gravitation, "Goatsetation"?

Ikkitousen is among my favorite manga titles. I like the violence, the faservice, it just gets me.

[Yoshio]

It's called Ikkitousen. Battle Vixens is some **** Tokyopop made up, because they suck. I really don't like Tokyopop, I'd rather read scanlations than give money to them. The only reason everybody likes them is because they appease the yaoi fangirls. But they don't even do yaoi right. I think they might have renamed Gravitation, "Goatsetation"?

Ikkitousen is among my favorite manga titles. I like the violence, the faservice, it just gets me.
actually, i think the reason people like tokyopop so much is because they have a shitload of titles out, i think more than any other american manga company, although Del Rey kicks *** when it comes to quality

[Gibb]

I love Del Rey. I'm so glad they got Pastel, and hope they license Parallel as well.

As for volume 9 of Battle Vixens coming out in September, I'm looking forward to it. I need more Ryubi!

and White_Hell Like Brad said, the TV series poorly resembles the first 4 or 5 volumes of the manga. There are also some weird things that are out of order. I remember watching the series and thinking "what the, why is Ukitsu (girl with weights on her arms and legs) already fighting Hakufu? In the manga they didnt fight til way later in volume 4 or so.

[Thousand Eyes]

I looked through the first volume and that was enough. Before that, I saw most of the Anime series without having any previous knowledge about what the Anime was about. I hated the excessive fan-service in both mediums. I thought maybe the Manga would be toned down or different. Nope.

[Bradster]

I looked through the first volume and that was enough. Before that, I saw most of the Anime series without having any previous knowledge about what the Anime was about. I hated the excessive fan-service in both mediums. I thought maybe the Manga would be toned down or different. Nope.
Usually it's the anime that's toned down compared to the manga.

[Yoshio]

Usually it's the anime that's toned down compared to the manga.
the anime was toned down... -_-;
the manga had no qualms with full out nudity, while anime nowadays just doesn't do that anymore

[KingNe!]

Excessive fan service/swearing, lusterless plot, unlikeable main character and average artwork void of detail. I really hate this manga.

[Danzoh Katoh]

I just finish reading the first volume of this manga, and it seem weird. Everytime the character fights her clothes rip and all. Then the story seem to be like talking more about sex, then a story about fighting.

Is it just me or does everybody feel the same???


Just wanted to say that clothes ripping off a character (though I agree they over did it) I believe should happen more often because it gives you a greater sense of it possibly being real. I think it's lame when people have incredible fights be it hand-to-hand, with weapons, or with powers and they're clothes stay intact like if they're made of some mysterious magic material. Like in Saint Seiya when they are being decimated and they're armor breaks away in pieces (gradually). I guess it's that extra detail that really gets me involved in what I'm watching/reading.

[u_nick]

Excessive fan service/swearing, lusterless plot, unlikeable main character and average artwork void of detail. I really hate this manga.

Excessive fan service/swearing: This is why I love this manga

lusterless plot: disagreed. In the anime, you would be right, as it is incomplete, and doesnt really get its point across. the manga however, the plot is quite easy to understand. you might not like the plot, but it is there.

unlikeable main character: again, disagreed, but i realize this is a matter of opinion for both of us

average artwork void of detail: I find the artwork very crisp and clean. consitent between all volumes too. i like it.

[Yoshio]

ok, well i just got the 9th book...

now before i continue, i should say that i do like this series, i enjoy the story as well as the action scenes, but...

does tokyopop even translate the dialogue at all? it seems like the dialogue is completely filled with "boob this" and "sex that", and it also has a bunch of other random things that have nothing to do with the story just randomly placed in the dialogue, it actually gets really annoying, because it makes every character almost exactly the same personality wise (since they all say the exact same pointless things in every speech bubble)

i'm also wondering if anyone knows if any manga translation groups have done this series at all, soi can see if what i'm complaining about is in the original or if tokyopop is screwing this series over, if anyone has a website to a group that did this, please PM me about it

[HitokiriShadow]

TP really puts their books out fast, and this delay was beyond anything I'd seen with other series of theirs.

Are you joking? Most of their titles come out quarterly at best.

And I'm still waiting for the last volume of Vampire Game (volume 14 came around February or March, but they don't even have a date for the last volume)

[Bradster]

Are you joking? Most of their titles come out quarterly at best.
I've only collected a handful of manga titles, and my baseline before TP... was the first third of Viz' Ranma 1/2. So I consider quarterly very fast compared to over a year between volumes.
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An inspiration to check over at ANN for information shows that Volume 9 came out in Japan in May of last year, and Volume 11 in May of this year. I was worried that Volume 9 was going to be the end since I didn't realize he was doing this and 'Club' simultaneously, and didn't think the story could end well in just one more volume.


Bought the first 2 vols of Battle Club after seeing this thread, and I'm not too impressed. Love the extra skin, but it's too similar to B.V. (without any extra story) to be interesting. While I don't expect the character design to be radically different from the same artist, it's like he dressed up the Ikkitousen crew in different clothes, gave them different names, and swapped them around a bit.

[Danzoh Katoh]

Yes, I agree. It seems sort of like a replica, but I find that after the preliminary parts they begin to diverge and get their own style. Not completely different but well enough so it doesn't seem you're reading the same thing over again.

[KingNe!]

Keith Guffen did the adaption for this manga. He also did it for Battle Royale Read this, and then read Battle Royale, and you'll see what an indulgent freak he is. He ruined those 2 series (not that there was much to ruin.) Every character speaks in the EXACT sam colloquial. A huge flaw in characterization. And he is not afraid to take liberties at all. For Battle Royale, he made stuff up, and changed a LOT of dialogue. Some of the characters say much different things in the translations. And half that swearing? Its not in the original at all, hardly. Giffen put it in for his own personal amusement.

[Gibb]

I'll probably go back and read some scanalations (scantilations?) for battle vixens after I'm finished with the TokyoPop version. I just finished volume 9. The story is getting really cool and I'm digging the character development. Like everybody else I hate the ghetto/punk talk the characters have, so I'd love to see its actual translation.

Also as said above, battle club certainly feels like more of the same, but I'm a Yuji Shiozaki fan so I'll keep buying them. Even if I dont read it, the art alone is worth it. I especially love the little chapter start images in Ikki Tousen. I wish I could scan and color every one of them to make into awesome wallpapers for my PC.