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hiei_kurama27
April 13th, 2004, 05:07 AM
Is there an actual yaoi relationship in the Gundam anime between Duo and Heero????
Sharp-kun
April 13th, 2004, 06:16 AM
Originally posted by Youkai Lord
Is there an actual yaoi relationship in the Gundam anime between Duo and Heero????
In the anime, no. It is made very clear that Duo is meant to be with Hilde.
In a few pieces of official art aimed at the yaoi fangirls, there is implication, but there is an equal amount of art showing the opposite.
Spin~Suger
May 3rd, 2004, 11:40 AM
Easy.
Heero stole parts from Duo's gundam. Duo busted Heero out of the Alliance lab. Heero and Duo have a contest as to who can distroy an OZ base first. Heero and Duo meet up in space and fight together with the other Gundam pilots and all is well. I have discovered that each Gundam pilot has spent time with all of the other pilots, my fav being Trowa and Heero, and Quatre and Duo...Wufei and Trowa in Marie Meias army was pretty cool...anywho.
japangirlcmw
May 4th, 2004, 01:31 PM
i wish.................some girl at Jacon 2003 was tryin to sell a duo/heero doujinshi...but i couldnt afford it ><
mizushimo
May 4th, 2004, 09:14 PM
most of the yaoi pairs in anime are fangirl fantasies, though the various companies try to cash in on this as much as possible :).
The only blatant shounen ai pair I can think of in non-oav anime are shuuichi & whats-his-face from Gravitation, the rest are all just suggested, including yami no matsuei
hiei_kurama27
May 5th, 2004, 05:10 AM
shuuichi & whats-his-face from Gravitation
Its Yuki
Shuichi & Yuki Eiri-san
YukiEiri
May 5th, 2004, 10:29 PM
"What's his face"?
Hrumph. :P
Alex Kitsune
May 5th, 2004, 10:53 PM
Come now, let's try to remember names. It is not considerate of you to just post things like that, for it may offend a certain group of people, in this case, the people who love Yuki. (Not me, though. I've always been a Shuichi person... he's just so cute!!! ^_^ )
dunno001
May 7th, 2004, 07:07 PM
"What's his face"?
Hrumph. :P
Sorry, I also got a chuckle at that, myself. But, speaking of which, what are you doing over at NG now? Are you stalking Shuichi at work? :P
But yeah, I'm one of those people who think that Heero and Duo should be together, regardless of what others may say. It's quite canon at some points, even if it's not meant to be there and concrete.
inuyashachan
May 30th, 2004, 11:26 AM
I've just this past week finally watched Gundam Wing... and I am defintely one of the poeple who thinks Duo and Heero should be together.
Out of all the characters Duo ended up being my favorite... with Heero a close second.
Baka Ninja
May 30th, 2004, 04:58 PM
Heero and Trowa is way better match.
minako
May 30th, 2004, 07:39 PM
I can't help but prefer Heero/Duo - I think I have a problem. However, I'm always up for other pairings. I could never really get into Trowa/Heero, though. Unless they're wildly out of character, they're generally not the most expressive pair. I always thought Duo/Trowa was cute, though. ^_^
Aryan Knight
May 30th, 2004, 09:44 PM
Is there an actual yaoi relationship in the Gundam anime between Duo and Heero????
No...They don't...
Kaze Inochi
May 31st, 2004, 08:24 AM
I wish that there was a relationship between Heero and Duo. They go soooo well together. I really don't see Heero with Relena even though thats how it seems...i get annoyed with Hilde, but I don't usually like female anime characters anyway. ((possibly because they get to be with all the cool guys)) I liked Duo and Quatre for a while but Quatre goes better with Trowa and Duo with Heero. And Wufei's just Wufei I guess.
Sharp-kun
May 31st, 2004, 10:30 AM
It's quite canon at some points, even if it's not meant to be there and concrete.
Where? In the anime it's quite clear that Duo is with Hilde and Heero is with Relena.
The most you get is some official art, and there is equal, if not more art that shows otherwise.
BrendantheJedi
June 8th, 2004, 06:03 PM
In the anime, no. It is made very clear that Duo is meant to be with Hilde.
My thoughts exactly. All the Gundam pilots are straight. Except maybe Quatre but he is probably straight too.
Shota Demon
June 8th, 2004, 06:59 PM
I really always doubted this pairing... it just seemed so stupid. But then again mabye that's because I always found Gundam to be stupid. I would prefer Neon Genesis Evangelion over GW anyday! :/
tbozfan
June 12th, 2004, 12:08 AM
Heero and Trowa is way better match.
.....I agree.
tbozfan
June 12th, 2004, 12:09 AM
The guy who made GW said there is no love in Gundam, not even between Heero and Relena.
Vampy_Chan
June 12th, 2004, 03:24 AM
most of the yaoi pairs in anime are fangirl fantasies, though the various companies try to cash in on this as much as possible :).
The only blatant shounen ai pair I can think of in non-oav anime are shuuichi & whats-his-face from Gravitation, the rest are all just suggested, including yami no matsuei
If by "just suggested" you mean "they haven't kissed yet," sure...
It's made pretty obvious though in the anime, and even more so in the manga, that Hisoka and Tsuzuki are the canon couple.
Kaos Koneko
June 25th, 2004, 12:50 PM
I honestly never even saw the potential of Heero and Duo as a pair. I mean, other than hanging out in the general vicinity of one another... *lol* Seriously though, if their relationship could in any way be suggestive of something romantic or sexual... well, that would put like EVERY possible pairing of remotely linked male and/or female characters in any anime in pretty much the same boat. ^.^; Just my opinion. But I never cared for the pairing on even a fandom level. ... The only yaoi pairing I find remotely plausable in GW is Trowa/Quatre, although even that - realistically - seemed like a friendship that would/had developed more into a "brotherly love" sort of bond...
Shinigami Sama
September 30th, 2006, 04:53 PM
1) Duo is clearly obsessed with Heero. You think I'm kidding? You go and watch the series, then tell me how many times Duo is rushing to Heero's side, thinking about him, et cetera, et cetera. . And, his image song, "Good Luck and Goodbye"? Look up the lyrics; who else could it be about!?
2) you have these two fellas, both orphans who end up fighting together in the war. Past all the sheilds and layers, I'd say you have pretty much the same sort of person, which is good as they can easily relate to each other, you know? Yet at the same time, there are all these other personal factors that make Heero and Duo both wildly different from each other. There's the white devil and the black angel, though which is which can be your call. I call them my Yin and Yang couple. The **** load of symbolism that can be applied to them is just far too great to be a mere accident, I think: angel and devil, Yin and Yang, light and dark, sun and moon... the list goes on.
3) Duo loves Heero for who he is and wouldn't change him for the world. I think that is more important to Heero than anything, that someone could actually love him, no strings attatched. Relena, on the other hand, is constantly trying to tell Heero that his ways are wrong, that he should stop fighting, that he should change, as I mentioned before. People who argue that Relena could help Heero "become human" are missing some very important thigns about Heero, the first and foremost being that Heero already is too much so. What Heero needs is someone real like himself, but different enough to balance him out. And let's face it people, Duo is about as real as you can friggin' get.
-----you get it now? This aint about no pairing off of characters, this is real Love man! It makes da world go 'round!
DazzleKitty
September 30th, 2006, 07:39 PM
I must be blind, but I saw nothing between Duo and Heero. Maybe there were some vibes between Quatre and Trowa, but that's it. That's just my opinion, though. I like Duo and Heero together purely as fanservice, but I can't see them in a relationship together.
All of the GW boys had the personality of a tree stump. No, I think the tree stump probably could provide a better intellect than them.
Shinigami Sama
September 30th, 2006, 08:15 PM
are you kidding...they have so much depth its incredible...have ur read Episode Zero, the ting is full of character.
example:
Whenever I describe Heero and Duo to someone, I always say, "They're the similar, except at the exact same time, completely different." Does this make any sense to you? If it does, it'll make the rest of this so much easier! Like Heero, Duo's a street brat with a rough past and more emotions than he knows what to do with; they're both soldiers stuck in a needless war; both of them are really just hiding from themselves... the list goes on, but I think you've got the gist of it.
However, while Heero seems to have trouble with sorting out his emotions, Duo seems to have no problems wearing his heart on his sleeve. Though on a much grander scale, just like Heero, Duo also appears to be something he is not. A key element to Duo's character is... well... his dualtity. At a glance, Duo seems like a very transparent and childish young man, and to a point, he most certainly is. He's so see-through, it seems like he's made of glass, and yet at the same time, he hides better than any character in the entire series. It's interesting to think that someone who runs around bragging about his integrity is all the while lying to himself. Kid's an athiest, but he wears a cross and a precher's collar and calls himself the God of Death. But that's just it: Duo is a paradox. Write that down for your next test on literary terms. Just think Duo on that one, and you've got it made.
Oh, and here's an interesting random fact about Duo: did you know he was based on a priest that was killed during the Spanish Inquisition who wore his hair in a braid and called himself the God of Death?
same_animefan
September 30th, 2006, 08:23 PM
I am glad I'm not the only one who can't see this pairing happening. I mean...there was really so little character interactment between the guy's of GW...I just...where? Where are the hints? I mean...I just can't see it. Trowa/Quatre is the only pairing in that whole series I could see happening (slash wise).
Sure, Duo/Heero are great fanservice/fanfics xD (I LOVE Duo. The sexy bastard), but other than fan-based and a few official, suggestive pictures...I see no evidence of this pairing 0-0.
Shinigami Sama
September 30th, 2006, 08:38 PM
I have to disagree becuase I usually hate fanservice yaoi becuase it has no depth and there is no love! I truly believe this pairing to be in there. I could give you a run through of all the things that happen in the series that prove this point.
One of these would be the fact that Heero (yes Heero) broke protocal and discarded orders merely to save a man in jail from dying by his hands that he had only met about 3 times previous to that.
Another is that Duo always thinks of Heero while looking at the moon (heero looks at the moon at the same time at points) and if thats not romantic I don't know what is.
A third example is that Duo never gives up on trying to get Heero to break out of his shell and act normal, he's his best friend as well.
Fourthly, who does Heero immediatly go to for help during Endless waltz, Duo. Becuase he trusts Duo the most.
In the series Heero uses Duo's name as his alias (y is that)
Duo and Heero are constantly saving each other even when they are supposed to be letting the other one go.
These are just a couple...if u want more...tell me...
April-san
September 30th, 2006, 10:44 PM
I have always been a huge Trowa/Quatre fan (even having original cels in my living room). They're the only two male characters who didn't have female counterparts (per Episode 0, Cathy was Trowa's sister and I really cannot see the empathic Quatre with the selfish Dorothy). And, the short clips of Gundam Wing Odds/Evens shows as soon as the five are safe in the hanger, Trowa immediately goes to a wounded Quatre's side (and stays at his side through the entire OVA...aww). From everything I've read and seen, this pairing is very close to being canon.
The first few times I saw Gundam Wing, I never saw anything between Heero and Duo more than companions/soldiers in war (I still think at the end of Endless Waltz, Hilde tells Duo she is preg which causes him to choke). It took a couple of very nice fan-fics to open my heart and mind to this pairing. (Golden Lights by SilverLady [unfinished], Divide and Conquer by Arigatomina [unfinished], and especially Willing slave by KC). A major reason I like H/D is because I really dislike Relena (it's strange because I really like Hilde, too). For me, H/D not a canon couple, but I still like to read a good slash fan-ficie once in a while. A girl can dream. :P
Shinigami Sama
September 30th, 2006, 11:52 PM
yes i also see the trowaxquatre pairing a lot in the series...its more blatant than heero and duo because due to the nature of their characters, especially heero, both duo and heero would never openingly admit feelings for each other because they know love only distracts during war (which has basically run their entire life unlike the other 3 pilots.) I do not like it when Wufei is turned yaoi because I believe that in no way is he attracted to men. He definitly likes Sally.
Honestly I think there is about as much incentive of a relationship with Hilde as Heero in the series (u really dont see her that often) nd though ill agree that they could be paired off together, Hilde doesn't complement Duo like Heero does.
Relena simply is not in love with the real Heero. She is in love with the idea of Heero. The white Knight who will sweep her off her feet. She's constantly trying to get Heero to change, to stop fighting, she compromises missions by following her rampant teenage crush and calling people's names off cliffs is just ridiculous. However I do not hate Relena, people just need to realize that her and Heero never have a relationship together. To Heero Relena represents innocence (like the girl, the puppy, and the bear) which is why he gave the bear to her in the first place. He is "giving her innocense" if he was attracted to her he would be intelligent (like he is) and give her flowers or something. Therefore he is stead fast in any mission to protect her because he doesn't want to lose what represents innocense. Heero and Duo are too tainted to have relationships with normal people. People who grow up in their kind of enviorments do not handle people the same way.
Failie
May 25th, 2007, 12:36 AM
I have to agree with Shini-sama on this topic. Heero and Duo were MADE to be together. They compliment each other BECAUSE they're complete opposites. But at the same time they have many things in common, and they can relate to each other like no one else can. Shini's idea of "Yin & Yang" is very accurate when applied to Duo and Heero. In my view, Heero's "believed" love for Relena is a misconception. He might feel something as a friend, but ultimately Relena is a symbol of "Innocence" for him. Even in a warring world he tries to hold on to the idea that there is still innocence, and that's what he see's Relena as. She is sort of his symbol of hope and I think one reason he protects her is because her innocence renews his hope and gives him the strength to fight on. But that's all she is to him. Whereas Duo can do what Relena can't, bring out Heero's worst as well as his best. They both know what if feels like to be alone, to have suffered, to hide themselves behind a mask. Without Duo, Heero wouldn't open up as much; because it is Duo that presses his buttons and gets him to feel. And without Heero, Duo wouldn't really have anyone to relate to. With that, I must go. I've got College Chem homework to finish. Ja ne!
Animematt55
May 25th, 2007, 08:43 AM
Wow, this thread has been resurrected many many times.
But I agree with Sharp.
Venus
May 25th, 2007, 08:43 AM
According to the creators of Gundam Wing there are no offical pairings and yes, that includes Heero and Relena and Duo and Hilde. They did this so that the fans can decide for themselves who's a pair and who's not. I was a little surprised to hear this since I think its pretty obvious that Heero and Relena have a romantic interest in each other. I don't ship anyone in GW, but I can't stand Relena so if I had to make a choice who Heero should be with then I would go with Duo.
I'll have to see if I can find the website where I read the interview/article with the creators.
Midoriko87
May 28th, 2007, 02:24 AM
I'm kinda confused. Do people really need confirmation from the Creators/Writers or whatnot to figure out which characters have those kind of feelings for each other? Some things, in my opinion, are just plain obvious and some are obviously wishful thinking.
Alexion
December 15th, 2007, 11:43 AM
Trowa/Duo, is a whole lot better couple XD
ShanceChance
December 15th, 2007, 12:43 PM
Relena simply is not in love with the real Heero. She is in love with the idea of Heero. The white Knight who will sweep her off her feet. She's constantly trying to get Heero to change, to stop fighting, she compromises missions by following her rampant teenage crush and calling people's names off cliffs is just ridiculous. However I do not hate Relena, people just need to realize that her and Heero never have a relationship together. To Heero Relena represents innocence (like the girl, the puppy, and the bear) which is why he gave the bear to her in the first place. He is "giving her innocense" if he was attracted to her he would be intelligent (like he is) and give her flowers or something. Therefore he is stead fast in any mission to protect her because he doesn't want to lose what represents innocense. Heero and Duo are too tainted to have relationships with normal people. People who grow up in their kind of enviorments do not handle people the same way.
Giving someone a teddy bear can symbolize a true love that will last forever.
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