WORST Final Fantasy

[Darian]

well, i've heard a lot of different opinions, but which FF game do you dislike the most.

with me it'd have to be FF8. the system for that one sucked in comparison, but what ok to play... the thing that made me hate it was the confusingness about it...

[Seijuro_Hiko_IX]

LOL :lol: I love the list of choices. Thats a great poll. But I have to agree with FFVIII. I just didn't like that game, it was a chore for me to finish it. But since it was a FF game, I felt I had to.

[WarriorMars]

FFX and FFX2

[LinkOcarinaMan]

Final Fantasy VIII

[sazae]

FFX really bothered me, it was way to easy.

[bri_d]

Final Fantasy X. It was really boring for me.:dead:

[JOJO]

I'd have to go with VIII by far. The battle system was just too tedious and the story was just not that exciting to me at all. I do like Quistis a lot, though. I haven't played X or X-2 yet. I hear the story is nice, but way too linear and easy. I'll have to find out myself sometime.

[sfried]

VIII.

As my friends says (about the characters): "It's like I'm saying...'I want to sympathize with you, but there's no reason why I should...'"

[straZin]

8 is also my least favorite, and 10 was slightly offbeat in way of story.

But a bad FF game is still a great game in it's own right. So I still loved both of them.

[GandalfsWhisper]

I've only played 4-9, and of those I hated 5 the most. I just felt the plot and characters were really really lackluster.

[Siendra]

X wins hands down.

[Mimiru]

Most hated FFX - But I've grown to not hate it as much... What I did hate with an extreme passion was FF8... that game made me want to cry, I stopped playing it after that first gave/fire stage.. it was that Bad...

[Noryoku]

I've never disliked any of the final fantasy games. They seem to change just enough but still have the final fantasy style. However if i had to choose one i would say 9 but only as i'm was not keen on the charcter styling they used for the game.

[Scandiadream]

I put "other". Why? Because while I do credit FF6 for initiating me into Final Fantasy, the truth is I gave 5 a short try back in 2000 or 2001. I did not care for it.

Anyhow, I do agree that 8's junction system is hard to figure out. Once you do, it can do wonders, but it is just too many options for most people. And it does bite that there is no armor either. I like it how in 6 and 9 you can buy various kinds of armor and weapons, as well as play with 4 characters on the team, plus in 6 you can wear 2 accessories. Eight does not even have accessories really. And it is not that much of a fantasy.

But I still love 8 because of the CHARACTERS and plot. Especially the characters. They are absolutely beautifully designed, and many of them are complex. Nine's characters are not attractive, and I think this is the main reason why this game is so underrated. The plot, visuals, and gameplay are stupendous, but the character designs (and most of the characters per se period) are not particularly appealing. And 7 has the best villain, but the other 3 head villains I have seen so far seem pretty one-sided.

[cappioduckio]

diffentally Final Fantasy 9 was the worst. The music sucked. The grapics are worse than they are in 8

[Nausicaa]

I love FFIX. I adored the witty, light-hearted script, and I thought the game world was absolutely gorgeous.

My least favorite would probably be VIII. It was just not fun to play.

[Etchd]

FFVIII...

Too dark.
Too confusing.

[whitecloud]

ff 8 but 10 i kindy did not like

[Ikaruga]

Out of the ones I've played (I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, IX, Tactics, Tactics Advance, and Crystal Chronicals), Final Fantasy VII.

[sfried]

Originally posted by Ikaruga
Out of the ones I've played (I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, IX, Tactics, Tactics Advance, and Crystal Chronicals), Final Fantasy VII.

I definately want to agree on you on that, but fear I might get flamed. So I'll say it's my second worst.

[discharge82]

Originally posted by sfried
I definately want to agree on you on that, but fear I might get flamed. So I'll say it's my second worst.

u guys are insane.

[Ikaruga]

Eh? Because I don't like VII?

How about this, I think anyone who likes VII is insane. :p

[Seijuro_Hiko_IX]

*gasp!* Heaven forbid anyone not like God's gift to video games known as Final Fantasy VII! :eek:

But seriously, it wasn't even close to the worst for me, but it definatly isn't anywhere NEAR the best either. FFVII is just kinda somewhere towards the end of the middle. I had some fun with it for a while, so its ok.

[evolsakura]

wow 8 is my favorite FF ever
but 9 sux.

[Darian]

I dont see how anyone could NOT like FFVII i figgured if they played FFVIII but if you think FFVII is the worst and havent played FFVIII, then play FFVIII first before you go saying FFVII is the worst. FFVII may not have the best graphics, but it has (in my opinion) the best characters and storyline out of all of them... FF8 was way too confusing... FF9 had issues with characters, FF10 had a funky level up system that i didnt really like...

[MightyDustLoop]

For me it was FFVIII. It's not that I necessarily dislike realistic characters, but I couldn't get into the game. Not just the battle system, but the story just seemed a little TOO out there. I know it's fantasy but I just couldn't identify at all with this. I also dislike how the lead was well-liked in the game and online community but who's attitude is the very definition of ***hole. And boy does he get a babe.

FFX's lead may have been a little whiny, but I think the main mistake with that one was providing voices. Since FF is such a long series I believe they should have maintained tradition and done OTHER RPG's and new series with voices. Not that I'm tied to FF tradition, but I think the lead "saying" the words made it sound like he was whining more than he really was.

Those two are my least favorite. BTW, I thought FF7 was pretty good but nothing special and that FF9 was actually the most "enjoyable" game in the series. If you can just get into the character designs it's a fun, solid experience and there's really not a lot of flaws for that game. Some people just didn't like it.

FF4 is my first and still my favorite. I REALLY believe the same mentality is the reason so many people worship FF7 (I think it was a lot of people's first time to sit down and really play through a turn-based RPG).

Xenogears=best plot ever.

[Hankoubou]

IX

[sfried]

Originally posted by discharge82
u guys are insane.

You are insane. Sorry newschool boy... :P

[Fuuma]

When I played FF9 I was just like... damn this sucks... :|

[JoeStrummer]

the worst had got to be II (japan) by far

[Lacan]

Final Fantasy VIII and Final Fantasy X-2 are the worst FF games I played. I've beaten FFVIII, but not FFX-2 because I lost the will to play a boring game like FFX-2.

Oh btw I love Final Fantasy II for the 8 bit Famicom, Wonderswan Color Remake, and Playstation remake. I manage to max out all of my stats in that game and level my spells to 16. It was awesome.

[yunasknight]

Me I didn't like number one or two.

[Alundra]

Originally posted by Tyler_Durden
I love FFIX. I adored the witty, light-hearted script, and I thought the game world was absolutely gorgeous.

My least favorite would probably be VIII. It was just not fun to play.

Beautiful.

We all know that my least favorite is FFVIII, I've written many a long, long post on the many pitfalls of the game, maybe I'll be able to find one.......

Here it is!

Originally posted by myself, who else?

This incarnate of the series lacked the prized possesions of the series, the staples of the series were just ripped out. To start it off, it had the overembellished story of teen amgst and acceptance issues that seriously hindered the already downtrodden story path. I could not stand the overall attitude of Squall, never since Charlie Chaplin have I seen such an animated mute in my life; his personality was solely interpreted by his actions, and nothing more.

Another thing that was obviously absent was the trademark incredible graphics. The character models had less form than my Corn Flakes after sitting in milk for 4 hours, it was literally damaging to keep an eye on the sandy textures that made up the characters. I especially loved when the polygons would collide and give characters a cyclops look, it helped justify the intense mood of the "storyline", or whatever word you kids nowadays find synonymous with "s***".

How about that supporting cast? Wait......the only words that come to mind when I think of it are "hotdogs", "womanizer" and "angsty". What kind of bulls*** is that when I can only think of 3 defining words for a supporting cast that was supposedly the most diverse of all the Final Fantasy's?

This is what happens when you put Final Fantasy and The Real World together.

FFVIII.

signed,

The Jaded Gamer.

[Arsinol]

I'm going to say Final Fantasy X-2, never bothered to play FFVIII because I never had any interest.

However, rather than just harshly stating my distaste for FFX-2 I shall explain.

While FFX may not be my favorite Final Fantasy game I did enjoy the parts where Tidus was either not talking or Yuna wasn't talking.

With that said I was mildly looking forward to FFX-2 despite the obvious fanboy driven direction it was taking.

Upon playing it I had an almost immediate disliking for the combat system. It seemed choppy for some reason I can't put my finger on it exactly, but I didn't not like the random placement of the camera.

The dress sphere driven combat bothered me as well. At first I liked the idea that I could change status with the same character rather than switching to a different character like in previous games. However, it was hard to tell if Paine, Rikku, and Yuna individual strengths and weaknesses with certain spheres other than their originals. There wasn't ever a real reason to change spheres other than for aesthtic purposes or to change into the special dress spheres.

Also I didn't like the characters either..... except for Paine she was the only one I could stand. Not for most reasons people state (the attire). I never really liked Yuna to begin with and although I think Rikku is cute physically, her cute attitude is too much for me though.

Last but not least, the game is entirely way too easy.

[Hankoubou]

Now that I think about it,I rather dislike Crystal Chronicles as well

[Ceraziefish]

Either VIII or II... They were both not that interesting and had level-up sytems designed by a couple of wacky preteens with a bunch of weird tabletop RPG systems.

[Gosunkugi]

V. It has the job system, but it also has Butz, so it cancels out.

[Ceraziefish]

His name is Bartz. But the lack of a story isn't cool like in FFI.

[Gosunkugi]

Bartz isn't much of an improvement, really. They should have just gone all the way and called him, I dunno... Style...

[Ceraziefish]

No fool, they were saving all there good plot ideas!

[Galsia]

You should at least have a poll with most of the FF games. -_-; Mystic Quest was pretty bad.

[_SeeD_]

Mine would have 2 B...um...probally FF9. I didn't really like the story line as much as the other FFs. And having a tail was a real drag...

[Ladyceres]

final fantasy X-2 I'm not playing a game with girls in skimpy clothing it's just wrong

[James_xeno]

I LOVE FFIX (9)...

The worst:

1. FFX/FFX-2
2. FFII
3. FFVII
4. FFV

[Mercenary]

X-2 no contest...

horrible story
horrible character design

the only thing it had going for it was that it had a somewhat average battle system, sad that an average was its best categoy.

Runner up I suppose is X, but its nowhere near as bad.

[Jae Hoon]

Originally posted by Ladyceres
final fantasy X-2 I'm not playing a game with girls in skimpy clothing it's just wrong

Wow there just me alot of games you dont play, especially rpgs.

[HardCore]

Originally posted by Ryoko's_Fantasy
You should at least have a poll with most of the FF games. -_-; Mystic Quest was pretty bad.

Exactly!! FF Mystic Quest was soo bad that I would be glad to hear that the reason many of you haven't already mentioned it is because you haven't played it. What a horrid game!!

[Onv]

My favourite is Final Fantasy IX, Final Fantasy VIII was okay but not great.

[Creepshow]

FF9 the last boss kill the game for me

[neiru_3]

I liked FFIX alot. I liked FFV too..the story was light, but the gameplay made up for it. Butz was funny, not a hardass like some of the other heros, maybe that is why I liked Zidane too. Least favorite would have to be FFII.

[Ceraziefish]

Originally posted by _SeeD_
And having a tail was a real drag...

:lol:

[HeWhoPostsStuff]

I'd really hafta pull out all my FFs and play 'em in fairly rapid succession to make a decent judgement, but recently I started playing FF9 and was rather surprised at all the unforgivable flubs the game had...for one thing, all the characters were pretty much "stock" personalities with little depth or variety, and wherever it existed it seemed rather forced...then there was the wacky presentation, with all of its "stunted" characters and oddball critters wandering all over the place...I'm just not sure how I'm supposed to look at the game when it's presented like that. Then there are all the nonsensical additions to the key game systems (potions aren't as effective outside of battle, tents can be used on enemies, "trances" which can't be saved for later or used very strategically), and the fact that to get ahead in the game you have to look around in every nook and cranny in towns and steal everything from the bosses, which slows the pace of the game down tremendously...then, while the graphics are very good as usual, you really don't get much chance to look at them, since most areas are very short passageways rather than the large open places found in FF7 and others, which gave you some time to take in the scenery before you could dash by and turn the screen black while it loaded up the next area. Most unforgivable to me, of course, was the Tetra Master card game, which relied almost exclusively on luck, making it immeasurably inferior to FF8's brilliant Triple Triad. Thus, for the moment, I'm a tad dissapointed in FF9, though if I replayed most of the others I'm sure I'd find stuff to complain about them too...

[Pickie]

Every FF after VII

[evasivemanuvers]

How come you only include the games that were on Playstation (7 and on)? How come people hardly ever include the old ones? I think 8 was a good candidate for the worst.

[sfried]

Originally posted by evasivemanuvers
How come you only include the games that were on Playstation (7 and on)? How come people hardly ever include the old ones? I think 8 was a good candidate for the worst.

Because a mojority of the ones on the PS sucked.

[evasivemanuvers]

Originally posted by sfried
Because a mojority of the ones on the PS sucked.
For a non-PS one, I'd say FFII sucked, I found it a bit repetative like X.

[StrangeLove]

NO STORY FFX2 NONE WHATSOVER!!!!!!
I HATED IT PIECE OF CRaP POUNDED INTO THE SHAPE OF A CD!!!!!!:complain:

[evasivemanuvers]

Originally posted by StrangeLove
NO STORY FFX2 NONE WHATSOVER!!!!!!
I HATED IT PIECE OF CRaP POUNDED INTO THE SHAPE OF A CD!!!!!!:complain:
What games have a story to you then? Tell us.

[Akihiko]

Final Fantasy X.

There was no challenge in any part of the main game, and most bosses could be easily destroyed from a few attacks of the Magus Sisters, no sweat.

[Owl Duke]

FFX and FFX-2... they were boring as h#LL

[Rahxephon91]

I vote 9. Its not horrible. I just like it least

[Alundra]

What games have a story to you then? Tell us.

No, X-2 had no story whatsoever, it was a bunch of uninspired missions strung together with a small backstory to hold it together.

[Jae Hoon]

No, X-2 had no story whatsoever, it was a bunch of uninspired missions strung together with a small backstory to hold it together.

Tis true FF X-2 has no story to really speak of but it has one hell of a combat system.

[TB Samurai]

I don't like FFIX that much. The character designs looked weird. I didn't like the music, either. It wasn't as good as the music in the other games before FFIX. I didn't have much fun playing it, either.

[Magatsu]

The Spirits Within....

worst...ff ever....

[Ken-Ohki]

9 the gameplay was cool for awhile but the story just bit cheesy monkey chunks

At least with 8 the love story was worth the game.

[Silver Cyclone]

I've only played 4-9, and of those I hated 5 the most. I just felt the plot and characters were really really lackluster.

ah but what it lacks in story and chracters I think it really pulls together in gameplay. Loved th system and gameplay for that game.

FFVIII has to be the worst not only was the story tidious and so amazingly jay random. The junction system has to be the worst system as it is either really easy or really hard for some. Not to mention it was just a bunch of pretty graphics and FMV's thrown together. Not to metion the jump from gameplay to FMV was terrible.


BTW if you find FFX easy try completing all the side quests and killing everything without the use of summon. Way too many relied on summons.

[Akihiko]

No, X-2 had no story whatsoever, it was a bunch of uninspired missions strung together with a small backstory to hold it together.

That is the best summary of X-2 I have ever heard, straight to the point and it's so true.

[Gosunkugi]

BTW if you find FFX easy try completing all the side quests and killing everything without the use of summon. Way too many relied on summons.

While I haven't finished X, I almost never use summons unless I really need to buy time and soften a guy up.

Better challenge; beating FFVIII without overkilling on GFs.

[Ceraziefish]

Better challenge: Beat all FF games without pressing buttons. In two hours.

[RPGuru1331]

Of the options given, I say VIII. Given free rein, I'd tie it between FFMQ and FFII.

[DrTomoe123]

Mystic Quest sucked. No questions asked.

I loved IX, it really brought me back to the days of the older FFs, especially after VII and VIII. I thought X was entertaining while I was playing, and while X-2 was quite unimpressive, I still enjoyed it, mostly since I was interested in seeing what happened to him.

[RiniChikRaye]

final fantasy X2 was terrible! the plot was...well....not there and all of teh characters (especially rikku) were super annoying.

[The Wheelman]

VIII was a disgrace. The world was nowhere near as charming and lively as in VII and VI, the environments and scenery were washed-out and static, the junction system was an absolute abortion, totally killing off any individuality in character strengths and skills. Square's excuse for a storyline just turned into a bunch of pointless, moody teen angst all sewn together by a sappy love plot centered around a very unlikable character.

X put me to sleep. I lost count of how many times I wanted to strangle Tidus and put Auron as the main character, Tidus main method of dialogue seemed to be: whine whine whine whine whine, and Yuna's robotic voice didn't help much either. The gameplay seemed as if you moved from cutscene to cutscene, instead of a coherent, involving story. I wish to forget about the "laughing" scene, I was ashamed to be in the same room as myself while listening to that abomination of dialogue.

X-2 was a definate improvent, and I loved the return of ATB as well as the new combat system, but the whole game was basically just a fanservice-induced panty fest.

[Captain Tylor]

diffentally Final Fantasy 9 was the worst. The music sucked. The grapics are worse than they are in 8

i know this is your opinion.. but do you really believe what you're saying??

Graphics worse than 8's ??? um..

Sucky music?? ha...ho..oh my

maybe u need to play Secret of Evermore or Legend of Legaia

[samurai guy]

VIII was the worst!

the only cool thing had to be the beginning with the swordfight.

The best had to be a tie between final fantasy X and final fantasy IX

[Darkon]

I'd have to say the original FF. While it was incredibly innovative and has historical value it entertained me the least.

[sabukun]

I'd have to say FFVIII. I would have said X originally, but I've gotten pretty far, and it's getting kind of addicting. At first I didn't like it, because it was too linear. And everything you had to do was spoken to you. Not to mention you couldn't go back to places that you'd want to. But then I started to get to know the characters, and I started to appreciate the many number of cut-scenes. And I've really fallen in love with the sphere grid. There's just so many different things you can do with it! So X has risen to one of my favorites, and VIII stays in one of my least favorites.

Basically, it's one thing. The junction system. Its really boring. And drawing magic is boring. But maybe it's just because I made it boring. I prolly could have not as depended on drawing as much, but I went with trying to max out every single spell for every single character, which I prolly shouldn't have tried doing, so I could never fully get into it. But the story is really amazing. And the music is really amazing. I have Fithos Lusec Wecos Vinosec sitting here right in front of me. But junctioning! *shudders*...oh yeah...and the way you acquire money...It was kinda weird...It made battles make less sense, because you didn't really level up from battles, you leveled up from junctioning. and you didn't get money from battles, you got it from walking. So....I dunno. It was just different I guess, and it takes some getting use to.

[Lemina]

Of all the Final Fantasy games, I didn't like VIII or IX. I always thought VIII was so boring and I put down the controller on it as fast as I started playing it. As far as FFIX, I've always thought it was good because the series came back to it's roots but it still didn't appeal to me for some reason, maybe it was the graphics, I don't know. Out of those in the poll, I did like VII and X alot.

[omegoku]

ff 2 sucked so did ff8

[Lionfish]

The worst for me was 7. It sucked, they could have made it better but it sucks.

For me the best Final Fantasy to date is FF8. God I frickin love that game.

[LadyAkuma]

Either VII or II. I voted for VII though.

FFVIII ownz me. :)

[Jamin]

Final Fantasy 9 is the one I liked the least, however, I couldn't say "it was the worst"

Because NO FINAL FANTASY game has ever been bad. ALL ARE GREAT GAMES.

[Flame Knight]

I would have to say FFX-2 b/c it was way to essy compared to the prequal ... i like FFX and the ending was really dramatic but the end of FFX din't seem as grate as FFX (but i have not gotten the 100% ending of FFX-2) well i think FFX-2 was um a bit of short also... ti just felt short....

[Aki_0488]

I'm actually in the minority in being someone who really enjoyed VIII, I'm currently re-playing it actually to try and get 100%. The story and relationships between Rinoa and Squall really made the game great in my opinion. Although the Junction system is the bane of my existence. FFX I also really enjoyed, it didn't try and make things overly confusing by bombarding the player with a over the top complex story, and instead focused on some great character interaction and accesible lv-up system to push things along.

In my opinion, FFV was one of my least favoroutes, the mundane characters really bogged it down. The only redeemable aspect was the job system.

[Etchd]

None of course. Well that's according to my tastes. All FFs are good and there's nothing I can do to resist...

[Anchalis Kinei]

I've nothing but time one my hands, so a quick run-dwon of each FF is in order! For no reason at all!

*FF7 - I loved it. When it comes to story, none of the other ones even come close. Same with setting. It's even being an option is a crime against humanity.
*FF8 - ... woopdie doo. I'm in college, I just got my *ss kicked, and I'm accompanied by a teacher with a leather whip.. boy oh boy.
*FF9 - I haven't really played it, but I like how the planet was set out.
*FF10 - I liked how it played, the characters, and the story was good, too.
*FF10-2 - Why people say it's not that great is far and beyond me. The dressphere system rocks, I like the all girl cast (;)), the LeBlanc Syndacite is AWESOME (Lemme put it like this: Ormi has an attack called 'Huggles'. Yes, it's true.. strong as hell, too.), and I like how it references to 10 a lot. That makes it a very good follow up to it.

Also, FF usually starts off "lively". Look at how each of the current ones started out:

-FF7: You start off as a renegade group and go bomb a reactor.
-FF8: You start off by getting your *ss handed to ya, then... go to college?
-FF9: You're there to destroy the plce, if I recall right.
-FF10: Start off at a Blitzball game, which then turns to everybody's running around like mad. I loved it.
-FFX-2: You start off breaking into a concert and chasing down an imposter, who turns out to be of one of my favorite "antagonistic" groups in any FF series.

Just by the beginnings I could tell that FF8 would be crap. I just didn't dig it AT ALL.

It's easily my least fav, hands down. The fact that it already says "Hey, look! You already got beat!" really let you know it's gonna suck juicy balls.

[Anchalis Kinei]

final fantasy X2 was terrible! the plot was...well....not there and all of teh characters (especially rikku) were super annoying.

The plot was "not-obvious" not "not there". The plot was.. oh... well, it came later in the game. In fact, it was kinda... changing. Starts off as "Hunt spheres, get rich, get famous.", and then turns to "Oooh! Vegnagun? Gotta take care of that little feller!" with somewhere in all of this "Could it really be *him*?".

Yeah, it may be a bit confusing, but nonetheless, it's *there*.

As for the "annoying" part...


... um... no. Wrong. Erroneous.


I'd say "eccentric", if anything. Especially Brother. I will also add this: Some of Rikku's gestures didn't go... perfectly with what she was saying, I'll admit that. Same with Brother. And honestly, how in all the blue sky can *Paine*, of all people, be annoying? That's just bullsh*t. And also... how can something being, what, 9 feet tall, blue, and wolf-like be annoying? HOW? (I'm referring to Ronso.)

Now I will tell you one "character" that did irritate me a bit: Those bloody little Chocobos. I mean, it's sitting there, doing nothing, and all of a sudden BOOM. Choco Meteo. When I first saw this I honestly said ".. that's just.... how the hell can a.... a.. chicken-like creature do that?!". I mean, gosh, I didn't even do anything to the little guy.. I think Chocobos are just sexist. Never happened to me in FF7. They'd just eat the greens, or run away. Such nice little creatures. And now they can summon meteors on you?! That is wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong.

Really people, stop giving X-2 such a hard time. Sure the plot is fickle, and maybe as an RPG it isn't as.. usual as others with the "save something from something bigger and nastier" plot *right off the bat*, but geez. Just straight out saying "oh yeah it totally sux teh characters are teh crap lolZZ1111! omgomg" is really.. dumb.

.. oh, look at the time. Hopefully now, some people can see that FFX-2 is not as bad as others say.




Damn torrent... takes forever.... I mean, I'm getting four from FMA and only 3 for Naruto and this crap- oops. FF FOREVER!!

[Ikaruga]

I've nothing but time one my hands, so a quick run-dwon of each FF is in order! For no reason at all!

*FF7 - I loved it. When it comes to story, none of the other ones even come close. Same with setting. It's even being an option is a crime against humanity.
*FF8 - ... woopdie doo. I'm in college, I just got my *ss kicked, and I'm accompanied by a teacher with a leather whip.. boy oh boy.
*FF9 - I haven't really played it, but I like how the planet was set out.
*FF10 - I liked how it played, the characters, and the story was good, too.
*FF10-2 - Why people say it's not that great is far and beyond me. The dressphere system rocks, I like the all girl cast (;)), the LeBlanc Syndacite is AWESOME (Lemme put it like this: Ormi has an attack called 'Huggles'. Yes, it's true.. strong as hell, too.), and I like how it references to 10 a lot. That makes it a very good follow up to it.

Also, FF usually starts off "lively". Look at how each of the current ones started out:

-FF7: You start off as a renegade group and go bomb a reactor.
-FF8: You start off by getting your *ss handed to ya, then... go to college?
-FF9: You're there to destroy the plce, if I recall right.
-FF10: Start off at a Blitzball game, which then turns to everybody's running around like mad. I loved it.
-FFX-2: You start off breaking into a concert and chasing down an imposter, who turns out to be of one of my favorite "antagonistic" groups in any FF series.

Just by the beginnings I could tell that FF8 would be crap. I just didn't dig it AT ALL.

It's easily my least fav, hands down. The fact that it already says "Hey, look! You already got beat!" really let you know it's gonna suck juicy balls.

Yes, for some odd reason Square decided that their first Final Fantasy would be named Final Fantasy VII.

[Owl Duke]

somebody's cranky...

[sfried]

It seems that to Anchalis Kenei, as to most fans, Final Fantasy VI never existed...

And I bet neither of them heard of the "Super Nintendo."

[Owl Duke]

well... maybe... IT NEVER DID EXIST *Twilight Zone music*

uh... yeah... nevermind...

[RPGuru1331]

It seems that to Anchalis Kenei, as to most fans, Final Fantasy VI never existed...

And I bet neither of them heard of the "Super Nintendo."
Well, maybe AK skipped it due to the poll.
But anyhoo, I'd have to say it's either FFVIII or FFMQ. X annoys me, but not THAT much..

[1337 Sensei]

Final Fantsy Adventures for Game Boy are the worst!

[trickyv06]

i will anger most of you, i hated VII, yes you heard (or read) me. i hated the materia system, the story, the characters, and i especialy disliked sephiroth.

i loved VIII, i loved the story, the graphics, the junction system, almost everything.

[RPGuru1331]

Final Fantsy Adventures for Game Boy are the worst!
Those are the opening SaGa games, not Final Fantasy games, similar to how Final Fantasy Adventure was really Sword of Mana.
i will anger most of you, i hated VII, yes you heard (or read) me. i hated the materia system, the story, the characters, and i especialy disliked sephiroth.

i loved VIII, i loved the story, the graphics, the junction system, almost everything.
Anger, no. Sadden, yes. I couldn't care less about FFVII, but FFVIII?
*sigh*

[Arcane]

I didn't much like the original Final Fantasy myself.

[BakaShirtNinja]

I didn't much like the original Final Fantasy myself.

The spell/lv up system bugged me, but overall I enjoyed the original. Although I've only played the origins version, so if your refering to the NES original than I dont know, seeing as how origins improved on it.

My least favoroute is probaly VIII, much like VII each character didn't have a specific role, i.e White Mage, Brawler, and so things simply involved levelling a character up and having him/her draw as much magic as possible, there really was no tactics needed. The draw system was also dire.

[Spiritbomb]

I couldn't stand nine at all.

[BakaShirtNinja]

I couldn't stand nine at all.

Heh, one of my favoroutes.

I loved the light humour and the way it almost parodied old school generic RPG's.

I also liked the character design, which many (if not all) hated.

However, the combat felt awkard, but the lv up system was clever in my eyes.

[AngryBlack]

FF1,4,6 total suckfest...DANGER!!!...DANGER!!!

[sfried]

FF1,4,6 total suckfest...DANGER!!!...DANGER!!!
<_< You're nothing but a repetition of the past.

[AngryBlack]

<_< You're nothing but a repetition of the past.


I'm just trying to preach my utter distain for FF1,4,6 as long as no feelings get hurt it's ok :j

[sfried]

I'm just trying to preach my utter distain for FF1,4,6 as long as no feelings get hurt it's ok :j
Whatever you say...

[HeroOfTime]

FF7. Without a shadow of a doubt.

Ok, some doubt. FF8 comes really close, but I give it more points because of the Garden Battle and Assasination Attempt.

-- Hero of Time

[A User Name]

I like all final fantasies actually. but if i had to choose, ff3. the japanese 3. i played a translated rom of it and was like "what".

i dont like 2 or 5 that much either, but they're still ok

[8 Key Guardian]

I say the worst is FFX. I didn't like the sphere grid thing at all plus the voices were bad, in my opinion.

[ApostleOfZeon]

Probaly a close tie between V and VIII, those two just didn't bode well for me. I didn't really enjoy II that much either.

I never understood why people bash X so much, it's fourth in my top 5 Final Fantasy games.

[Jellochu]

final fantasy 10 was a let down to me, same with 9, but thats just an opinion!

[Gitaru~chan]

The only Final Fantasy I liked is FFIX. Never played much of the older FF games, cept FFIII and that was quite good. FFVII was allright back when it came out. I really don't like it much anymore (cept for Yuffie), although I do look forward to Advent Children. FFX didn't look like anything good to me, and I'm not sure about FFX-2 but I actually think I wanna play it. LOL

I cannot stand FFVIII. None of the characters are even attachable. I hate Rinoa with a passion.

[ApostleOfZeon]

FFVII was allright back when it came out. I really don't like it much anymore (cept for Yuffie), although I do look forward to Advent Children.

You do know that Advent Children is a movie, right?

[F Stop]

The only FF game of the entire series I never finished was X-2. It just seemed so thrown together and lacking in depth and character development.

I know that wasn't one of the poll choices, but it's my answer. :)

[RPGuru1331]

Personally? For all my tearing into X and VIII, I still think II was worse, and MQ was the WORST. I just try to repress them from my memories, so they never occur to me.
As for why I like V and X-2, I don't usually care about story or characters, so the flaws those two had were quite excusable in the name of gameplay.

[germanturkey]

8 was kinda bluh... so i didn't like it

[Alundra]

Damn, I love my FFVIII Hate-review.

[Spiritbomb]

I didn't like tactics all to much either now that I think about it.

[sprite]

FF6 is without a doubt the worst.

I loved VIII for the first 2 discs or so, once you meet the sorcererss and the real villian is exposed the game takes a big crap however. Junction system kicked ***.

[ApostleOfZeon]

FF6 is without a doubt the worst.


Expect a barrage of flames to head your way soon.

[Bowen Samdi]

Out of the 3 I've played, I'd say FFTA. Not that it's a bad game. I just thought the story sucked and the battles took a little too long. Plus the enemy AI wasn't the greatest thing in the world

[sprite]

Expect a barrage of flames to head your way soon.

That's what ignore lists are for. :naughty:

[Cloud_Vll]

AHAHAHAHA yes im glad most people in the world agree with me on something FF8 was nice but the way weapons where "made" and not sold really made me wanna kick a dog er something but the thing that really sent it off the edge was the fact that you had to connect magic to your stats...well what happens if its comething you use? well what ever im glad FF7 is trailing in last place now that in my humble opinion is the GREATS FF THERE EVER WAS AND WILL BE!!! MUWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH....wow...gotta take a nap now...

[Flounder_81]

AHAHAHAHA yes im glad most people in the world agree with me on something FF8 was nice but the way weapons where "made" and not sold really made me wanna kick a dog er something but the thing that really sent it off the edge was the fact that you had to connect magic to your stats...well what happens if its comething you use? well what ever im glad FF7 is trailing in last place now that in my humble opinion is the GREATS FF THERE EVER WAS AND WILL BE!!! MUWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH....wow...gotta take a nap now...

That was the thing that mainly bugged me about VIII, although I still enjoyed it. You junction some powerful magic to your strength stat, but say you want to use that magic on enemies? Your strength is going down every time you use it.

[Cloud_Vll]

yes and thats what i feel killed the game in one shot to the head... X.X ...

[Cloud_Vll]

Eh? Because I don't like VII?

How about this, I think anyone who likes VII is insane. :p

ouch that really hurt...

[Cloud_Vll]

uuuh just wanted to restate that FF7 may not have been the best ever but in my book its #3 oh why not share what my personal top 3 are...

(this list spans over computer and gameing systems)

#3 = FF7 for the PS1
#2 = The Thing for the PS2
#1= Wolfen Stein: Enemy Territory for the computer

just board...anyone else every hurd of or played these before? good games eh?

[SuperHiko]

the movie................

[AlexielAlmasy]

My least favorite is DEFINATELY X-2. That game has almost NO relevance to Final Fantasy X, which is my fave game along side VIII (I will rant about that in another thread, trust me), the characters have almost NO depth, and there are only TWO main characters from the first game! HOW STUPID IS THAT?!?! Not to mention that the whole "YRP" thing is SO Charlie's Angels, and it's just like... ARGH! Also, the whole thing with Yuna going from a religious symbol to a pop star is too unrealistic, as well as the amount of technology they aquire in just two years. I mean comon. It's like the pope doing a duet with Beyonce or something. It just doesn't work...

The leveling up system is too easy, and you could basically just run around and train, and get almost all of your ablities for your dresshperes in the first chapter, unless you get some later in the game, but then again that's easy as well. I had less than 40 hours clocked on my old game that I accidently deleated, and I was almost at level 75. It was like... -.- But also, the whole game is nothing but a collection of mini games and the actual plot doesn't come in until about the third or so chapter. The whole "Story percentage" thing really pisses me off because it's so easy to miss something, even with a stratigy guide. Not to mention they killed the sanctity of the aeons and the temples. Too many random characters, too much change, WAY too much chaos.

If I do have ONE good thing to say about this game, it's that the music is definately good. Koda Kumi and Jade from Sweetbox rox.

I could rant about this game for hours, but I think this is enough for now. (And I don't want to get started on my FFVII rant..... Oy.. -.-)

[RPGuru1331]

Wow..... Excepting your story points... that's the exact opposite of my feelings....
Dood... you realize you can sit around and train in any FF, right? It's really just a matter of time, and the time it takes to level has never really been a sticking point with me. As for getting abilities from dresspheres...... That's the whole point. It's the old job class system at work, but with a different name.

[AlexielAlmasy]

I realize you could run around and level up a lot in the beginning of the game. However, in almost every game besides X, you have to wait until you get to certain places or certain parts of the game before you can get certain ablitities. And in X, the begining fiends are designed so you don't level up too quickly. For instance. In FFVIII, you don't get Ultima in the first T-Rexaur battle you fight. Or you don't get Odin as your first summon in FFIX, and you find different materia in certain places in VII. I'm all up for quick leveling up, but X-2 makes it too easy, especially with the "more encounters" item you can equip. That along with minimal story and lack of realisim, makes for a crap game, especially if it's supposed to live up the title as being a first actual sequal. Makes me start to lose faith in Square....

[Ikaruga]

ouch that really hurt...

Why the hell are you quoting and responding to something I said over four months ago?

[jedite]

FF9 was a big disappointment, characters sucked, lame plot, and I couldn't get into it, and I stopped playing it because it sucked.

[androidsamurai]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say Final Fantasy Mystic Quest. Can I say that?

[HeroOfTime]

You know, in order to say something is the worst or best, you're kind of required to have played them all. Otherwise, the correct wording would be "Of the ones I've played, this is my favorite." It's like how no one can proclaim what is the best movie of all time, because no one has seen every movie ever made. Many of us (i.e., most of us) have played every Final Fantasy and can accurately make the judgement. Otherwise, no.

-- Hero of Time

[androidsamurai]

Are you talking to me, HeroOfTime?

[SuperHiko]

Well then the worst was prolly 2, although I never beat 3....

after 2, the list breaks down to 8

but I have yet to touch FFX-2 so you know maybe I shouldn't be speaking my mind. ;)

That may end of at the top of my crap list. :)

[RPGuru1331]

I realize you could run around and level up a lot in the beginning of the game. However, in almost every game besides X, you have to wait until you get to certain places or certain parts of the game before you can get certain ablitities. And in X, the begining fiends are designed so you don't level up too quickly. For instance. In FFVIII, you don't get Ultima in the first T-Rexaur battle you fight. Or you don't get Odin as your first summon in FFIX, and you find different materia in certain places in VII. I'm all up for quick leveling up, but X-2 makes it too easy, especially with the "more encounters" item you can equip. That along with minimal story and lack of realisim, makes for a crap game, especially if it's supposed to live up the title as being a first actual sequal. Makes me start to lose faith in Square....
You only just started losing faith? Anyway, There is still a very practical limit on abilities: The classes you have available. And no one ability that I've seen is so godly that it lords over the rest anyway. It's not like the other FFs where you have an uber-ability that would need to be sealed up a bit anyway. I've still not seen one FFX-2 ability that automatically allows you to wade through hordes of enemies, thus justifying the system they used.

[AlexielAlmasy]

*shrugs* I dunno, it's just a lot more different than what I'm used to. Not to mention all the other Final Fantasy's before it had they're own unique way of leveling up, and this just kinda rips off the GF leveling up in FFVIII, and some other stuff. But leveling up aside, the game was just crap. Period.

And yeah, I thought all the other games were good, until SquareSoft became SquareEnix and then this and Drakengard just made everything go "Pbbt!". Which is why I'm wondering how good KH2 is gonna be.... O.o

[RPGuru1331]

*shrugs* I dunno, it's just a lot more different than what I'm used to. Not to mention all the other Final Fantasy's before it had they're own unique way of leveling up, and this just kinda rips off the GF leveling up in FFVIII, and some other stuff. But leveling up aside, the game was just crap. Period.

And yeah, I thought all the other games were good, until SquareSoft became SquareEnix and then this and Drakengard just made everything go "Pbbt!". Which is why I'm wondering how good KH2 is gonna be.... O.o
I dislike the implication that Enix is to blame. Anyway, it's closer to the FFV jobs, or FFT, then it is to the GFs.

[AlexielAlmasy]

*raises eyebrow* It's EXACTLY like VIII, only you use dress spheres instead of GFs. And not to say Enix is to blame? The proof is in the the games they've produced since they've became Enix! X-2 and Drakengard have had some of the lowest reviews and other things said about them, especially compared to the other Square games...

I mean don't get me wrong, Drakengard is one of my favorite games, but there's not enough to base your endings on... especially the third, which I believe made no sence at all. But n e ways, my point is, is that Square has gone downhill since the change to Enix, and anyone who has played multiple Final Fantasy or Square games would know that...

[HeroOfTime]

Are you talking to me, HeroOfTime?

No, just talking generally.

-- Hero of Time

[RPGuru1331]

*raises eyebrow* It's EXACTLY like VIII, only you use dress spheres instead of GFs. And not to say Enix is to blame? The proof is in the the games they've produced since they've became Enix! X-2 and Drakengard have had some of the lowest reviews and other things said about them, especially compared to the other Square games...

I mean don't get me wrong, Drakengard is one of my favorite games, but there's not enough to base your endings on... especially the third, which I believe made no sence at all. But n e ways, my point is, is that Square has gone downhill since the change to Enix, and anyone who has played multiple Final Fantasy or Square games would know that...
No, it's closer to V, although I suppose by a narrower amount then I was thinking. With GFs, you could use a given set of commands and Passive Traits, drawing from all available GFs. With FFX-2, you could use all the commands you wanted.... from the equipped Dressphere. You could equip the learned commands through Lores, or through Grids, but you never got the passive abilities like Auto-Protect or HP/MP Stroll from another classes Dresspheres, gear and Grids excepted.

And why do I say Square is to blame, not Enix? Enix never dissappointed me so.
Edit: To expound, I actually don't think Square has gone THAT far downhill. I think FF has. Most (Keyword, Most) of Squenix's side stuff hasn't been that bad (Before you say Unlimited SaGa, shut up). So anyway, it's just one series, if they start developping for their others, things won't be so bad. I eagerly await the new Brave Fencer Musashi game.

[Gobbleskat]

I lost faith in Square years ago. Right around 7, actually. Every time I go back and try to replay that game it just sends my opinion of it into a tailspin. Its like since then the series has been in one slow and miserable death spiral.

Granted, 7 has many great qualities, but it is not the holiest of holies of games that people seem to take it for. The music was one of the best scores in the series, and the overall narrative and character work were pretty solid. The battle system was the standard, and materia was a decent system, except that it really led to a lack of individuality in a characters in-battle development. Graphically, the sprite work for the field was pretty crappy, even by the standards of that era. Above average gaming experience, but still some major kinks that could have made it that much better if they were resolved.

8 was the only final fantasy before X i never bothered to finish. I got as far as i needed to go before i simply said "You know what, the gameplay blows, the characters are lame, and the story sucks. Seeya.". The score was 50/50, Nobuo still had some fight left in him, but gone were the days in which he gave every character a voice through his music. Oh yeah, and a new trend began here...CRAPPY VILLAINS. Baaaaaah...just thinking about it makes my toes ache. X wasn't any better. Awful voice acting, even LAMER characters, and a completely forgetable score were balanced by completely customizable characters, in-battle party switching, and uh....i guess i'm out of upsides.

Then there was 9. Dear god 9...what went wrong...could it be Square had it's hea dup it's butt trying to make a big splash with X, and pushed it out in record time to hold fans over? Partially. Could it be that they were so focused on the "returning to their roots" idea that they didn't bother to put any real original thought into the game? very likely. Did they fill it with useless annoying characters, introduce a staggeringly ineffective skill aquisition system, spook us with HORRIBLY underdeveloped villains, shrink the size of the world to half that of the previous game, AND undercut every redeeming value the game actually had? Yup. Yet for every obvious flaw 9 has, and as much as I hate it when I'm watching it, I did actually enjoy the heck out of it when I first played it. Maybe it was the music. Granted, the themes were underdeveloped, and the orchestration was pretty much crap, but there was some heart there. The characters all had distinct themes, and even a few memorable tracks like "Vamo ala Flamenco" and "You're not Alone" really stood out...ok most of the rest was crap, but overall i think it had more GOOD tracks than 8 or X. The chocograph hunt was a fairly enjoyable mingame. I don't know, i can't explain it. There is just something there that keeps a positive image of that stupid game, despite it's flaws...

Bottom line: I guess if you can still play modern FF's and enjoy them like I did when I played 6, more power to you. Just remember, you have a right to demand better of Square. Don't settle for undercooked meat. Don't let them sell you an underdeveloped product as 'the next best thing' and think you have to like it because it is from Square or carries the FF franchise. Enjoy what you have, but demand more in the future.

[AlexielAlmasy]

*nods* Very good point, but I haven't really played anything under 7, so I don't really know what the older games are realy like, although I'm buying 4-6 this weekend. I'll play them this weekend and tell ya what I think....

[Lionfish]

It seems alot of people found FF8 confusing. Thsi game had a complex storyline with some odd plot twists but it made it intersting for me and other FF8 fans. So in my opinion, it's the best.

But thats a downside for alot of people so it made FF8 a game where you love it or hate it. Personally, I love it.

[G-UnitSoldier]

FF sucks I hope square goes bankrupt .

[Vashknives114]

FF sucks I hope square goes bankrupt .
Says the person who has probably only played one of the newer Final Fantasy's.

[HeroOfTime]

Says the person who has probably only played one of the newer Final Fantasy's.

Give him a break, he's only eight...

-- Hero of Time

[sfried]

*nods* Very good point, but I haven't really played anything under 7, so I don't really know what the older games are realy like, although I'm buying 4-6 this weekend. I'll play them this weekend and tell ya what I think....
That's the problem with most people. They haven't played anything under 7, and are mostly introduced from the PS era.

[[Dark]Nebula]

FF sucks.
Really, wanna bet that not all FF games were bad?

http://i1.ebayimg.com/01/i/02/39/d4/83_1_b.JPG

You loose.

[AlexielAlmasy]

Okay... I've played 4(2) - 6 (3?) and I still say X-2 is the worst. I'm sorry, but that game has gone SO far from the main theme of Final Fantasy it's almost sickening.....

[Siendra]

It seems alot of people found FF8 confusing. Thsi game had a complex storyline with some odd plot twists but it made it intersting for me and other FF8 fans. So in my opinion, it's the best.


I didn't have any problems with the story line. My problem was that the junction system was poorly thought out, the characters didn't seem to fit into the game, the overall visual design was bland and pathetic, and I was always annoyed by GF's, for whatever reason.

[Gundam_Warrior1]

Final Fantasy X-2

[Ballo]

I think that Final Fantasy 9 is ultimately the worst Final Fantasy game since PS1 ever created.

[G-UnitSoldier]

FF sucks how many times are they going to release the same crap over and over and only dumbass people keep buying it because they are losers with no life and beat off to Yuna .

[Vashknives114]

FF sucks how many times are they going to release the same crap over and over only dumbass people keep buying it because they are losers with no life and beat off to Yuna .
Wow, that's a run on sentence if ever I saw one.

[Siendra]

FF sucks how many times are they going to release the same crap over and over only dumbass people keep buying it because they are losers with no life and beat off to Yuna .

And yet you have the time to post in an FF forum. Wow, none of what you just said applies to you. ;)

[F Stop]

Do me a favor...if you're not into Final Fantasy games, and you feel the need to flame both this thread and the people who do play them, go somewhere else. I don't have time to babysit you and delete posts because you can't play nicely with others...

[Chrono]

I think that Final Fantasy 9 is ultimately the worst Final Fantasy game since PS1 ever created.
For what reasons?

[Flounder_81]

FFIX was one of the best FF's I've played, IMO. I meet so many people who hate it. Not as much as VIII, though.

[Jaymz Hetfield]

Never did fancy FFX or FFX2

[Flounder_81]

One thing that did turn me off from FF X-2 big time was the whole YRP/Charlie's Angels thing. It took the series and ran it through the bubblegum blender big time. But, I'd be lying if I said I didn't have fun playing it. ^_^ At least you could turn off the animations for when you changed dresspheres. . having to watch those over and over would have landed me in the nut house.

[IKENIE]

FFVIII it is no contest.

[Vashknives114]

FF F**King Sucks .
Wow...just wow.

Your idiocy continues to impress me every day. :thumbsup:

[Ashu]

FF F**King Sucks .

Nice way to flame all the Final Fantasy Fans boys...

Hahahah.

I cant wait to see this flame war.

[Yuhi25]

I find Final Fantasy IX to be the worst. I just don't find anything that great about it. The characters are kind of boring. The plot is in my opinion kind of dull. It seems to be a lot of aimless running around.

[Chrono]

FF F**King Sucks .
And I'm sure the games you play are just so much better :P

[Shota Demon]

I find Final Fantasy IX to be the worst. I just don't find anything that great about it. The characters are kind of boring. The plot is in my opinion kind of dull. It seems to be a lot of aimless running around.

For some reason, that's all the reasons I liked it.

[Chrono]

Woo, well aren't we original. What games would those be?

[Shota Demon]

Yeah they are alot better than F@GGot Fantasy .

Never before have a seen such a stupid insult. :P

[RPGuru1331]

I don't care what you hate... but I'd like to hear why. I just want to know if it's anti-mainstream hatred, or if you have a valid reason. And it does take more then "Because it sucks".

[Flounder_81]

Never before have a seen such a stupid insult. :P

Yeah, he's getting pretty desperate now. :P

I agree about FFIX, too. The plot and characters were a big plus for me. Especially Quina. . some parts were too funny.

[Chrono]

Still haven't heard what games you play that are just so much better.

[Vashknives114]

Still haven't heard what games you play that are just so much better.
You're not going to either.
Expect a "FF is for little babies" comment next.

[G-UnitSoldier]

Zelda>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>FF

[RPGuru1331]

Zelda isn't an RPG. While I can name quite a few better then FF, I'd like to hear what you've got to say.

[Jae Hoon]

G Unit - No but this is a board where your not allowed to flame people because you have a different opinion. It will stop now, you can ask anyone here and they will tell you I have zero tolerance for this. It will end

[G-UnitSoldier]

I like action games that you don't have to pick your attacks from a menu which is boring .

[Levon]

I like action games that you don't have to pick your attacks from a menu which is boring .


Dude, get the f*ck out of here if you don't like RPGs. We don't wanna hear your lame *****ing.

We like games where you have to think, where you use strategy. The battles are much like a complex chess game. Pushing one button to shoot people is boring, you don;y need to use your brain. Since the stories of RPGs are from Japan most are very anime like(many times with anime characters). To put yourself in anime type story like FF7 or Lunar is something every anime fan should love.

BTW I was once like you, an ignorant dumbass thinking RPGs sucked. Then I became more openminded.

[Levon]

I love anime why do you think I come here but I hate FF it just sucks hard .

I never said you diddn't love anime. Why do you come in this FF forum if you don't like FF? Get lost, your an annoying troll.

You can't even give a vaild reason why you hate FF. You just insult it like an immature basher.

People like you get banned. Just like anyone who hates anime but goes into the anime forum just to insult anime.

Your only making yourself look bad.

[G-UnitSoldier]

I never said you diddn't love anime. Why do you come in this FF forum if you don't like FF? Get lost, your an annoying troll.

You can't even give a vaild reason why you hate FF. You just insult it like an immature basher.

People like you get banned. Just like anyone who hates anime but goes into the anime forum just to insult anime.

Your only making yourself look bad.
You want a reason why I don't like the FF series anymore here it is
*rant mode... in OVERDRIVE"

I should start off by saying I don't hate ALL final fantasy games, and I've played all of them up to a point. The Final fantasy series used to be synonamous with quality all of them in english for the SNES and I love them all. I just think that since FF7, the game has worn out its story and its like a really bad movie franchise that is trying to suck the money out of people. There has not been new innovation in that game since 7 except for graphics which shouldn't make a game better than another. Every new one is the same old such and such character going to save some small part of his life (friend love interests ect, ect) then gets caught up in some big conspiracy that threatens the world (sound familiar?). There are always summons and magic ect ect. The game hasn't changed in over 5 years and people still buy the product. Thats not to say that it can't be done well. The best game was Final Fantasy tactics, and since then none have equaled. The storyline in that game was amazing and realistic. People actually die in that game, people turn on each other and war is made out to be a very very bad thing. It had huge undertones with Religion (no I mean real religion not like the stuff they tried to put out in FFX) where religious zealotry causes fear bigotry and death. Also in the new games, I just feel like I'm playing a cookie cuttered story with candy apple characters whenever I play anything above FF-7. Its like i'm playing a game of cliches now. Its like its been dumbed down for the level of children. If want a real hero i'll play as Ramza Belouve in tactics ... that was a real heroic character that had HUGE character development. Play Tactics and you will see what I mean.

Also most of the FF line isn't really an RPG. Since the SNES games all FF has become is a storyline that you followed to get to the end of a story. there were always the ultimate combinations. In FF8 you might as well not use anything but summons since they could do 9999 damage which no physical attack could do. yeesh. Play a game like Baldurs Gate and they you will see what a real RPG is like.

well thats the end of my vent. Please come and criticize. I'm just sick and tired about people raving about how Final Fantasy is the greatest thing and how FFX-2 is the only sequal and its going to be great. No its not. I'm done with squaresoft now, all I can see now is them ripping the series for all its worth, not changing it just so they can make as much money off of it as possible.

*rant mode off*

[Ikaruga]

Copy and paste action!!!!!

[Jae Hoon]

I own and play Baldurs gate and while its fun its nothing more then a hack and slash action game with rpg elements added to it. A brainless idiot could beat that game, just random mash attack.

If you dont like FF dont post in here its that simple.

[HeroOfTime]

Mind if I ammend that?

If you don't like FF, be rational about it, at least. Don't just point out the obvious. Hell, I've disliked all FF games since 6 (with the exception of X), but I don't out and out flame. A dissenting opinion is the heart of debate. Without intelligence, though, debate will ultimately go nowhere.

-- Hero of Time

[Jae Hoon]

Mind if I ammend that?

If you don't like FF, be rational about it, at least. Don't just point out the obvious. Hell, I've disliked all FF games since 6 (with the exception of X), but I don't out and out flame. A dissenting opinion is the heart of debate. Without intelligence, though, debate will ultimately go nowhere.

-- Hero of Time


Good post, really all you said G Unit isnt really even true. FF isnt an rpg? That comment in itself didnt even factor into any common sense department.

[Flounder_81]

I love anime why do you think I come here but I hate FF it just sucks hard .

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the point of this thread was for people who enjoy the Final Fantasy series in general to discuss which one they liked the least, and for what reasons. Not for someone who hates the series with a vengeance (at least, the later games) to spread flame-bait nonsense about why the games are horrible and not worth calling real RPG's.

[Levon]

You want a reason why I don't like the FF series anymore here it is
*rant mode... in OVERDRIVE"

I should start off by saying I don't hate ALL final fantasy games, and I've played all of them up to a point. The Final fantasy series used to be synonamous with quality all of them in english for the SNES and I love them all. I just think that since FF7, the game has worn out its story and its like a really bad movie franchise that is trying to suck the money out of people. There has not been new innovation in that game since 7 except for graphics which shouldn't make a game better than another. Every new one is the same old such and such character going to save some small part of his life (friend love interests ect, ect) then gets caught up in some big conspiracy that threatens the world (sound familiar?). There are always summons and magic ect ect. The game hasn't changed in over 5 years and people still buy the product. Thats not to say that it can't be done well. The best game was Final Fantasy tactics, and since then none have equaled. The storyline in that game was amazing and realistic. People actually die in that game, people turn on each other and war is made out to be a very very bad thing. It had huge undertones with Religion (no I mean real religion not like the stuff they tried to put out in FFX) where religious zealotry causes fear bigotry and death. Also in the new games, I just feel like I'm playing a cookie cuttered story with candy apple characters whenever I play anything above FF-7. Its like i'm playing a game of cliches now. Its like its been dumbed down for the level of children. If want a real hero i'll play as Ramza Belouve in tactics ... that was a real heroic character that had HUGE character development. Play Tactics and you will see what I mean.

Also most of the FF line isn't really an RPG. Since the SNES games all FF has become is a storyline that you followed to get to the end of a story. there were always the ultimate combinations. In FF8 you might as well not use anything but summons since they could do 9999 damage which no physical attack could do. yeesh. Play a game like Baldurs Gate and they you will see what a real RPG is like.

well thats the end of my vent. Please come and criticize. I'm just sick and tired about people raving about how Final Fantasy is the greatest thing and how FFX-2 is the only sequal and its going to be great. No its not. I'm done with squaresoft now, all I can see now is them ripping the series for all its worth, not changing it just so they can make as much money off of it as possible.

*rant mode off*


And you serious? Is that even your rant?

I thought you hated FF games but then you say you don't hate them all, even after you insulted FF so badly(not just in this thread).You also said "I like action games that you don't have to pick your attacks from a menu which is boring" yet FFT has the most menu play in any FF game.

"Also most of the FF line isn't really an RPG" Oh god, you are so full of crap.

You make no damn sense at all.

[G-UnitSoldier]

And you serious? Is that even your rant?

I thought you hated FF games but then you say you don't hate them all, even after you insulted FF so badly(not just in this thread).You also said "I like action games that you don't have to pick your attacks from a menu which is boring" yet FFT has the most menu play in any FF game.

"Also most of the FF line isn't really an RPG" Oh god, you are so full of crap.

You make no damn sense at all.


As I said I liked the FF games on the snes but I hate them now because there is really nothing fresh or new about them just the visuals are updated .

[G-UnitSoldier]

And why is there no zelda thread because zelda owns FF .

[Ashu]

Wow...the idiotcy rating on this thread just went up another mark.

Like everyone else has been saying, your entitled to your own opinion, but at least be humane to everyone elses' opinion, and tell us exactly what about the Final Fantasy game makes it bad.

Flat out saying you hate anything is usually grounds for flame baits or wars. Especially the way you state it G-UnitSoldier.

I love anime why do you think I come here but I hate FF it just sucks hard .

FF F**King Sucks .

Yeah they are alot better than F@GGot Fantasy .

Zelda>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>FF

And where is there no zelda thread because zelda owns FF .

Idiotcy at its finest folks.

Lo and behold the thread moron.

[Flounder_81]

http://www.animenation.net/forums/showthread.php?t=150076

Here. A Zelda thread. Go. Enjoy. Just keep your Final-Fantasy bashing idiocy out of here.

[HeroOfTime]

Yes, it is indeed idiotcy. :lol:

On a side note, yeah, you're a douche, G-Unit. I don't even like modern Final Fantasy games and I dislike you.

-- Hero of Time

[HeroOfTime]

I don't really give a damn if you don't like me and why would I want a guy to like me sorry but I don't swing that way .

Because you're an attention whore? Just a thought.

As such, I'm not going to participate in your blatant stupidity (or, should I say, someone else's blatant stupidity that you copy + pasted) any further. Don't bother replying to this, since it will only show how childish you are.

That is all.

-- Hero of Time

[HeroOfTime]

Do you have proof that I copy and pasted that ohhh well STFU then .

Oh, proof, huh? (http://www.jref.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5212&page=1&pp=25)

Edit: Still waiting for G-Unit to reply. For the record, GU, you can't claim both you and that other person are the same person. Unless you've got a Jekyll/Hyde thing going on, anyway, which causes you to be a moron on these boards.

-- Hero of Time

[Flounder_81]

Busted. ^_^

[HeroOfTime]

Hmm...he usually gets back to me within ten minutes. He doesn't have an answer he can copy and paste here, I guess.

You're supposed to be prepared for this kind of situation, G Unit!

-- Hero of Time

[Alundra]

Wow, he truly is an idiot.

I salute you, G-Unit.

[HeroOfTime]

He's started deleting his posts!

I wonder if he remembers that I still have that full post quoted in mine?

*sends him a PM*

Come on, explain!

-- Hero of Time

[Flounder_81]

Well. . you did catch him with his hand in the copy/paste cookie jar. I would say he's much like a deer in the headlights, right now. ^_^

[Vashknives114]

you have proof that I copy and pasted that ohhh well STFU then.[/URL]

You know, I found that link yesterday containing the post you ripped off. But I held off posting it, thinking that you might be the person who wrote it. Aftering reading some of his other posts, I guarantee you and him are not one in the same.
The level of IQ greatly differs.

And why is there no zelda thread because zelda owns FF .
That's because your in the FF fourm dumbass. Click over to video games.
And don't give me any crap about no Zelda topics being in there either.
How hard is it to do a seach on the word "Zelda"? Because there are plenty of threads about the series here.

[Alundra]

You know something, if this thread is completely overlooked and he isn't banned, then this will be a complete contradiction of everything AN has been doing so far.

The mods here are very quick to ban the smart and outspoken members here, but I still see G-unit and Sushi Guy wandering around, able to troll the boards as much as they want.

Is it really that difficult, guys?

[Vashknives114]

Well. . you did catch him with his hand in the copy/paste cookie jar.
www.Google.com

Google is like a modern day Caller ID.

More proof can be found in the "Now Playing" section of Nintendo's message boards.

http://forums.nintendo.com/nintendo/board/message?board.id=Nowplaying&message.id=20098&highlight=vk_114#M20098

[Slayers Zealot]

I've played FFV all the way to FFX-2. And I think every single one of them is a good game. My favorite, hands-down is FFVII. Absolutely flawless. Story, characters, everything was unbelievable. I almost cried when Aeris was killed. That's how much I cared for the characters. However, FFIX was lackluster compared to some of the others. The characters and plot were unremarkable. I don't really remember much of the plot or characters becuase they were mediocre. I don't know why so many people hate VIII and X-2. The former's final villainess was a little lame, but other than that, it was a fine game. The latter might not have been as heavy on plot as the others, but it was a blast to play. I loved the opening and all the music, characters and mini-games. All in all, there are no "bad" Final Fantasy games.

[F Stop]

I don't want to lock this thread, so please get back on topic and stop laying into each other, or this puppy's closed.

[Foldered]

Yes, it is indeed idiotcy. :lol:

On a side note, yeah, you're a douche, G-Unit. I don't even like modern Final Fantasy games and I dislike you.

-- Hero of Time
He deserves to be called a full-out douchebag.

[[FFIIV]*KITE*]

9 was to "kiddie" every one was like 8 or 9 really annoying

[Levon]

No they wern't, it just had pretty cute characters with its style. Its actually pretty dark & deep once you get into it.

[Flounder_81]

Agreed. That's just the character design. . The characters were shorter, with big hands and feet. It was going for more of a fantasy-driven, medieval look, after the more science-fiction oriented VII and VIII. The only character who's actual age was around 8 or 9 was probably Eiko. Zidane was 17, Garnet was 16, I believe.

[Jae Hoon]

You know something, if this thread is completely overlooked and he isn't banned, then this will be a complete contradiction of everything AN has been doing so far.

The mods here are very quick to ban the smart and outspoken members here, but I still see G-unit and Sushi Guy wandering around, able to troll the boards as much as they want.

Is it really that difficult, guys?

I have yet to see the smart and outspoken get banned.

[RPGuru1331]

You forgot LinkOcarinaMan :P

[Haruhi]

G Unit, or whatever the hell your SN is, drop the attitude. If you dislike Final Fantasy games, then by all means, we respect that. In fact, I'd have to agree with you. However, don't troll the thread like some damn kid. Stop it.

[MagicianCamille]

FF X hands down, did not feel like a FF game.

FFVII had to be the best RPG storyline of all time.

[HeroOfTime]

G Unit, or whatever the hell your SN is, drop the attitude. If you dislike Final Fantasy games, then by all means, we respect that. In fact, I'd have to agree with you. However, don't troll the thread like some damn kid. Stop it.

I think it's safe to say he's not coming back after we embarassed him. :P

-- Hero of Time

[Retro]

The last FF's I played were 7 and FFTA. 8,9,10,11, just lost my interest. when I saw that 8 was going to be using "realistic" looking characters, I just went "Gah"... so you can say these are my least favorite FF's. I d be happy to play any FF before 7, but after 7, no thanks. I wonder if I will ever buy another FF ever.. maybe FF20.... i got a lot of time to think it over, heh...

[ApostleOfZeon]

The last FF's I played were 7 and FFTA. 8,9,10,11, just lost my interest. when I saw that 8 was going to be using "realistic" looking characters, I just went "Gah"... so you can say these are my least favorite FF's. I d be happy to play any FF before 7, but after 7, no thanks. I wonder if I will ever buy another FF ever.. maybe FF20.... i got a lot of time to think it over, heh...

Do yourself a favour, play VI, then the originals (Origins). Then laugh at X2.

[HeroOfTime]

The last FF's I played were 7 and FFTA. 8,9,10,11, just lost my interest. when I saw that 8 was going to be using "realistic" looking characters, I just went "Gah"... so you can say these are my least favorite FF's. I d be happy to play any FF before 7, but after 7, no thanks. I wonder if I will ever buy another FF ever.. maybe FF20.... i got a lot of time to think it over, heh...

Wait...what was so realistic about the talking lion and the man with the gun for an arm? What about the ninja girl and the vampire?

-- Hero of Time

[Levon]

None of the FF games are realistic(thank god). Its called Final Fantasy after all;)

[ApostleOfZeon]

None of the FF games are realistic(thank god). Its called Final Fantasy after all;)

Many would use the term 'realistic' to represent the ' humane' and 'mature' character designs of VIII and X. Otherwise I agree completely.

Wait...what was so realistic about the talking lion and the man with the gun for an arm? What about the ninja girl and the vampire?

He was talking about VIII, not VII.

[Haruhi]

Did anybody ever realize that Barret had like, infinity bullets in his gun arm? You could leave a text box open while he's shooting, and come back 10 hours to see that he's STILL unloading.

[Flounder_81]

Did anybody ever realize that Barret had like, infinity bullets in his gun arm? You could leave a text box open while he's shooting, and come back 10 hours to see that he's STILL unloading.

Must have been using the same theory of Dante's Ebony and Ivory handguns: Magic ^_^

[HeroOfTime]

Did anybody ever realize that Barret had like, infinity bullets in his gun arm? You could leave a text box open while he's shooting, and come back 10 hours to see that he's STILL unloading.

You also notice how his bullets work on ghosts?

The sword, I guess I could understand, figuring it has magic junctioned in to it or something...but did Barret take the time to magify (note: not a word) every bullet in his unlimited arsenal?

-- Hero of Time

[Alundra]

*KITE*']9 was to "kiddie" every one was like 8 or 9 really annoying

Wow, Id just like to take this moment to point out complete ignorance in character age based on design.

[Utsutsu]

Lots of people dislike VIII! Maybe I enjoy it because it was the first FF game I played, which got me hooked to the series. But for me, I don't really care for IX. I didn't like the character designs. Yeah, and I don't like XI, because I can't shell out that much $$ to buy it wahh! :(

[AgentSmith]

FFX and X2 those were crap .

[Vashknives114]

FFX and X2 those were crap .
X2 is not a Final Fantasy game. :|

http://www.circuitcity.com/IMAGE/product/hires/acti/VC.47875804039.X.JPG
By the way, I copied and pasted the link.

[Ashu]

Is it just me or has G-unit returned on another user name?

I guess the moron of the thread wants to make a thrilling come back with his noobish riff raff.

[MightyDustLoop]

Agreed. That's just the character design. . The characters were shorter, with big hands and feet. It was going for more of a fantasy-driven, medieval look, after the more science-fiction oriented VII and VIII. The only character who's actual age was around 8 or 9 was probably Eiko. Zidane was 17, Garnet was 16, I believe.

Every FF game has been aimed at the teen and under crowd. They just normally hide it better using leads straight out of the pages of an Abercrombie catalog. FFIX didn't try to hide it and just went straight with the young teenagers and just got slaughtered in public opinion for it. All the games feel to me like they're holding back violent content to seem more universal, but people just ride the fact that it's "kiddy" when it stops being ambiguous about it and instead goes with the open approach.

I think the reason FF is becoming so "popular" to hate on among people who believe themselves to be game veterans (rather not get into my opinion on so-called "elitists" right now) is rather simple. The target age group for the FF games has just not changed, whereas the people who played them have gotten older. Square will continue targeting the teens with the time and money, and the older fans will, for the most part, continue aging until Square games and RPGs starring pretty looking teenagers seem a little immature. I don't even play em anymore. Our only hope for the lot of us that've been around since NES is that the next fad is cool "middle aged" leads, because a lot of us are leaving the teenage years and beginning to approach that realm.

[Flounder_81]

There's a middle ground that Square-Enix can work towards, they just have to commit themselves to going in that direction. It should be entirely possible to make FF games that younger and older audiences alike can appreciate.

[F Stop]

Is it just me or has G-unit returned on another user name?

I guess the moron of the thread wants to make a thrilling come back with his noobish riff raff.

Yes he has...a couple of times now. He's now been IP banned though, so this should no longer be an issue.

Getting back on topic, I wasn't a huge fan of X-2 either, but I've enjoyed playing all the others. Granted some are MUCH better than others, but X-2 was the only one I disliked...

[Carl]

X had about the same level of complexity and linearity as Mystic Quest, but I'll pick X for worst as they should have known better on that one.

[Rahxephon91]

Why does everyone hate X

[MightyDustLoop]

Not to bash X but there are a lot of potential reasons. The games so graphically emphasized yet potentially a bit more linear than the average FF. This provides for a style over substance feeling I just couldn't shake.

Then there's the voice acting. Some people like it, some don't, but I don't think they fit along with anyone's actual impression of what the character would have sounded like. Kind of ruins the vibe.

Last, the two leads. Going with the whole Abercrombie/pretty-boy look has its faults. Besides looking just plain corny to the average guy, it pretty much makes him impossible for anyone to sympathize with. This leads to bad things as every complaint that then comes out of his mouth comes off as whining (the voice actor didn't exactly help the impression either).

Then there's the beautiful priestess Yuna. Besides being sexy and holy, the ultimate oxymoron, she inevitably takes up arms for her man in X-2. Beautiful....priestess...guns...boyfrien d...shy...but a pop idol. Ok, none of that goes together. I couldn't even fantasize about a holy girl doing that for me, thus I can't sympathize with her either.

FFX just felt weird to me. All FF's are beyond the realm of believability but this one seemed so far beyond to me I couldn't even put myself in the fantasy. It becomes very hard to put yourself in a fantasy in general when the lead you play as is a total pretty boy and a bit whiny and outspoken.

[Mutsumi's~Loverboy]

FFX started strong... but only after the first few minutes XD it coulda been better, we need more regular guys instead of pretty boys as leads lol at least cloud wasnt that much of a pretty boy, or Zidane for that matter lol

[I_ban_ez]

i hated FFX. The story was lacking, and so was the play. The lead character was this moronic wuss who couldn't tell his sword from his balls. Blitzballs.

[CloudSwordFF7]

ffx was great. it shoulda had cloud, though. square really dropped the ball on this one.

[Seijuro_Hiko_IX]

ZOMG you r teh sux, Cloudsword!! FFX is the best ever and Tidus is teh cooler than Cloud!

[F Stop]

I gotta say, I'm really losing faith the the Final Fantasy franchise. I know some of you like FFX-2, and I respect that, but to me it's like they weren't even trying with that game. It was the SAME thing, over and over again.

[Levon]

There is no bad FF games, just bad gamers.


Joking!:P

[Mutsumi's~Loverboy]

I gotta say, I'm really losing faith the the Final Fantasy franchise. I know some of you like FFX-2, and I respect that, but to me it's like they weren't even trying with that game. It was the SAME thing, over and over again.
for some reason, i dont see much promise with FF12 either, i dont know why, but i just dont...
they shoulda made FF11 final fantasy online if ya ask me... >>

[Jae Hoon]

So far im actually not liking FF 12 all that much but that might change. It seems every new FF they get closer to the metrosexual look.

[ryucross]

Considering that Squall was based off Gackt, an open bisexual, metrosexual would be an improvement.

[jazmyne]

final fantasy IX sucked

[F Stop]

final fantasy IX sucked

I understand you're new, so I won't be too harsh on you. Generally a post like this would be deleted, because there's nothing supporting it.

If you said "FFIX sucked because..." then it might be ok. But making blanket generalizations and not supporting them with anything is something staff and members here tend to frown on ;)

[MightyDustLoop]

But jazmyne's words are kind of the opinion of mainstream Final Fantasy fans. Doesn't mean FF9 is underrated by any means as every FF game receives massive exposure aided simply by the name, but it does make FF9 quite a jewel for being a dark horse to those of us who appreciate Square's attempt to add a feel of the old days to their new style cinematic RPGs. It's my personal favorite since the SNES days.

[dragonandante]

Wow so many different opinions on the final fantasy games. I noticed a few of you were saying FFX was boring and/or too easy. I must say to you that you must be some pretty nasty gamers. For example, a friend of mines beat Final Fantasy X in a little less than a week(without sidequests). And he beat the game again with all the sidequests in 12 days (sidenote just in case: He got at least 6 hrs of sleep each night) And with another friend of mine it took a little less than a month. If you have a better time than the first person I mentioned, *applaude*. O yea and I thought Final Fantasy VIII was alright, but it could have been much better.

[Professor Chaos]

yeah the game is easy if all you do is use aeons through out the whole game. Try beating Defender north of the calm lands without aeons, its pretty hard, he deals massive damage.

[RPGuru1331]

yeah the game is easy if all you do is use aeons through out the whole game. Try beating Defender north of the calm lands without aeons, its pretty hard, he deals massive damage.
Did it. No challenge. It helps when you have Auron use Sentinel each turn. Seymour Round 3, now THERE'S a challenge.

[Jae Hoon]

Did it. No challenge. It helps when you have Auron use Sentinel each turn. Seymour Round 3, now THERE'S a challenge.


No version of Seymour was that hard.

[RPGuru1331]

No version of Seymour was that hard.
I dunno, I thought the 3rd one was bad without Aeons. Maybe that was just me. Granted, he one-shots them anyway, but I just used them to absorb his big hurt attack.

[tokyo_master]

I hate to say this but I hated VII

[Idolo]

:huh: well, I loved I to VII and IX to X, VII got a little tedious after a while, but certainly made up for it with the amount of FMV sequences chucked in... However I absolutely detested X-2 its terrible, it seems like a rushed job, the story doesnt hold up... the music sux and the voice actress for Yuna doesnt work with the new style, however the one feature that is cool is the dresspheres... other than that I wouldnt bother... all I hope is that XII is better otherwise there is no hope for Square-Enix.