r they gay?hiei and kurama [Archive]

hiei_kurama27

January 30th, 2004, 09:09 AM

In my situation, I like HxK yaoi to a degree. And, it also pisses me off that people think they are actually 'together and in love' in the actual anime, when they really arent. People get that idea because, what I heard, happens later in the series... The other statements they make are unkown to me...
***SPOILER***

Hiei asks Kurama to give Yukina his Hirusekei Stone...

Kurama: "Thank you for your offer, but I'm really not interested in that kind of things…"
(this happens after Hiei gave him his Ice Tear Gem. Kurama is teasing him and explains he's not gay, although he knows that Hiei just wants him to return the Gem to Yukina.)

Chikyuu Senshi

January 30th, 2004, 01:34 PM

Hello no! NOW YOU'VE GOT ME STARTED!:complain:
They are not to any degree gay or lovers! They are friends!
Yoshihiro Togashi said so himself that they were never intended to be a couple. I've talked to sooo many H+K supporters and no one can prove to me they are, in fact, a couple.

Kaoru-San

February 2nd, 2004, 10:10 AM

Now,now don't get so mad,stupid people can have oppinions
too,allthou sometimes they say things that aren't true and idiotic,God people whom think they are gay will get there *****
kick by me!

(pardon my french)

Piginblack029

February 3rd, 2004, 07:48 PM

I love Hiei and Kurama.. but dont take me wrong.. It's just that I find them really hot.. and I like a whole bunch of other guys together too.. but I guess your entitled to your own opinion..

Neko Gundam

February 3rd, 2004, 08:13 PM

*shrugs* I myself don't see them as gay in the series or movies, but when it comes to doujinshi/fanfics....I'm a HxK/KxH supporter all the way baby! -o-;

shinobi13

February 3rd, 2004, 08:41 PM

Originally posted by Kaoru-San
Now,now don't get so mad,stupid people can have oppinions
too,allthou sometimes they say things that aren't true and idiotic,God people whom think they are gay will get there *****
kick by me!

(pardon my french)

And me! I'm a Kurama fan all the way, Hiei and Kurama are not gay. (Hey, that rhymed)

NoodleCat

February 4th, 2004, 05:33 AM

r they gay?hiei and kurama

NO

madoka odeko

February 4th, 2004, 05:52 PM

Hiei and Kurama are not gay according to YYH canon.

However, fans of shounen-ai and yaoi often make believe that they are. I've seen lots of fan drawn Hiei x Kurama wedding photo fanarts in Japanese anime magazines in the past. (60% have Kurama in the wedding gown, 40% have Hiei.)

Chikyuu Senshi

February 4th, 2004, 06:59 PM

Originally posted by madoka odeko
(60% have Kurama in the wedding gown, 40% have Hiei.)
HOW RUDE! Who would possibly have the right mind to put Kurama in a GOWN??!!! This is tearing me apart! :complain:

Neo SHINIGAMI

February 4th, 2004, 07:34 PM

I think they would make the best couple,but deep down I do not forget that are just good friends in the anime.(but the anime can just shove-it)!^_~lol..

JOlteus_K

February 4th, 2004, 07:57 PM

Hiei's bi, Kurama's gay.
That's just my opinion though...
To be honest, unless you like yaoi or shonen-ai, they aren't gay

Lazy Otaku

February 6th, 2004, 03:37 PM

I think people say things like "Kurama's gay" because he has some feminine qualities and is voiced by seiyuu Megumi Ogata (a woman). But the misconception that foreign viewers see feminine qualities and assume that they're either gay or feminine themselves. I think the qualities in Kurama accentuate other things about the character, but you can decide which ones for yourselves.

WildDrive

February 15th, 2004, 05:52 PM

I don't think they're gay.

Blades_of_Fate

February 15th, 2004, 11:33 PM

There Bi^_^ As are allot of couples that straight people say aren't together^_~ Like Kaworu and Shinji(hmm, maybe Kaworu is just gay)

Look at Fake, it's shonen-ai, but Dee is bi:crush: Anyways what I'm trying to say is anime just doesn't have to be straight or gay, it can be both and thats just fine with me:cheers:

Kaoru-San

February 16th, 2004, 07:23 AM

They aren't BI or GAY they are strait!
I'm getting tierd of stupid fanfics that say they are!
Because you know why they aren't and they will never be
GAY!

Chikyuu Senshi

February 16th, 2004, 08:08 AM

Originally posted by Blades_of_Fate
There Bi^_^ As are allot of couples that straight people say aren't together^_~
Kurama's gay, Hiei's bi.
Not to start a war or anything...but I don't think people should be making these kind of assumptions. In the series, they aren't gay... they don't say they are, so is it reall right to make such assumption.
They aren't BI or GAY they are strait!
I'm getting tierd of stupid fanfics that say they are!
Because you know why they aren't and they will never be
GAY!
My point exactly. Stop saying they are; they weren't before and never will be.

Kaoru-San

February 16th, 2004, 10:04 AM

:cheers: Finally someone gets my point!

Blades_of_Fate

February 16th, 2004, 02:51 PM

Originally posted by Kaoru-San
They aren't BI or GAY they are strait!
I'm getting tierd of stupid fanfics that say they are!
Because you know why they aren't and they will never be
GAY!

I don't need fanfic's to tell me what I already can see, I don't even read Yu Yu fanfic's. Besides, not only gay or bi people see it, I know plenty of sraight people who see it as well^_~ And this is with out me saying anything to them about it. Now maybe in the manga they aren't(haven't read it enough to know)but in the anime they are, just like with Kunzite and Zoisite from Sailor Moon.

Prove to me how they aren't bi, if you can do that I'll leave the subject be.

Chikyuu Senshi

February 16th, 2004, 06:02 PM

Originally posted by Blades_of_Fate

Prove to me how they aren't bi, if you can do that I'll leave the subject be.
Ok, Blades_of_Fate, you asked for it...The ultimate Kurama fangirl will now speak.
First off, as I had stated before, Yoshihiro Togashi said they were not a couple...and he is the creator after all.
Second, They never kiss, say "I love you", hug, ect.
Damn......There are so many arguements I have so I can't possibly list them all.... you can see some of them here:
Anti-Yaoi (http://www.geocities.com/rocketshipperrocket/yaoino)
Why don't you, Blades_of_Fate, tell me a reason or two why you think they are bi, then I will give you my arguement, and prove you wrong.

Tian

February 16th, 2004, 06:26 PM

I'd like to make a few points.

1) Since YYH was designed to be a boy's manga/anime, I don't think they stressed interpersonal (romantic) relationships that much anyways. Okay, Yusuke and Kuwabara had girlfriends, but the main point of the show was fighting. Seriously, the boy audience the series was originally aimed at couldn't have cared less whether certain characters were with other characters or not. Thus, the show leaves a lot of things open, depending on how you want to look at it. This open ground becomes the "playground" of yaoi and non-yaoi fans alike.

2) Can you really put human sexuality labels on demons? Do the terms "gay," "straight," and "bi" even apply to creatures such as Hiei and Kurama? Assuming that they can *ahem* reproduce the same way as humans do...doesn't it still seem silly to put such shallow labels on them? The depth of their character designs go beyond that anyways.

3) I can think of two theories for Kurama's gender netural characteristics. First of all, this may be a "deliberate device" to show that gender does not matter, and to further Kurama's image as the embodiment of the supernatural--a fox spirit. The second theory is that the creators were just trying to pull in both male and female fans by having a character that appeals to both genders. ^_~

Chikyuu Senshi

February 16th, 2004, 06:30 PM

Originally posted by Tian

2) Can you really put human sexuality labels on demons?
That's perfect! Such a good point, Tian...
Can you really put labels on anime characters in general?.......

Blades_of_Fate

February 16th, 2004, 09:28 PM

Originally posted by Chikyuu Senshi
Ok, Blades_of_Fate, you asked for it...The ultimate Kurama fangirl will now speak.
First off, as I had stated before, Yoshihiro Togashi said they were not a couple...and he is the creator after all.
Second, They never kiss, say "I love you", hug, ect.
Damn......There are so many arguements I have so I can't possibly list them all.... you can see some of them here:
Anti-Yaoi (http://www.geocities.com/rocketshipperrocket/yaoino)
Why don't you, Blades_of_Fate, tell me a reason or two why you think they are bi, then I will give you my arguement, and prove you wrong.

The creator of Sailor Moon also said that Kunzite and Zoisite weren't together, and there not, in the manga that is, she like most Manga artists don't really have full say about the anime and there for they can still be bi since Yoshihiro Togashi did the manga not the anime.

Why would there be a need for them to kiss, hug or say I love you to prove anything? Again, look at Kunzite and Zoisite, did they have to kiss hug or say I love you to show the viewers how they felt? Nope.

I'm not saying there bi because they look good together, only idiots say that(sorry to the people who think that way), I'm only stating what I see, it's not like I put every guy with another. Lets see, there are a couple of pairs in Fushigi Yuugi that people always say are together, when I saw it I didn't see anything at all between them. I only put people together that I see either one or both like each other, except when it comes to Sailor Moon I like a whole bunch of guys together, but that was what made me find yaoi and so it has never left me.

But you can think what you want as long as you let others think what they want. I'm not trying to be mean, I just hate it when people always have to say everyone's straight when there not, most are bi(even if they want to hide it)^_~

Kaoru-San

February 17th, 2004, 08:05 AM

The creator of Sailor Moon also said that Kunzite and Zoisite weren't together, and there not, in the manga that is, she like most Manga artists don't really have full say about the anime and there for they can still be bi since Yoshihiro Togashi did the manga not the anime.

Why are you compareing Sailor Moon and Yuyu Hackusho?

1)The shows are nothing alike

2)Kurama and Hiei are not humans thus they cant love

3)Kunzite and Zoisite are together in the manga and creator said so in a interveiw

4)It never shows the true feelings that Kurama and Hiei feel
for each other in the show,they are just friends the friendship
shows and thats it,nothing more nothing less is shown!

Thus the point continues they aren't,can't,and never will be gay!

Blades_of_Fate

February 17th, 2004, 11:33 AM

I said they were bi sweetie, not gay, get it right;)

Show me this interview were the creator of Sailor Moon said they were together in the manga.

I'm not comparing Yu Yu to Sailor Moon at all, I'm just using Sailor Moon as a example, but now I see that you'll never get it.

I don't have to prove they like each other, it's already there^_^ I haven't seen any proof that they don't like each other nor have you given me any. So they are and will always be bi^_~

Thus ends my argument with you. Unless you can show me some hard proof I don't think I'll be writing back8D

Tian

February 18th, 2004, 06:14 PM

Originally posted by Kaoru-San

2)Kurama and Hiei are not humans thus they cant love

Eh...I'd be careful with that one. There's more than enough evidence that demons can *love*. There's no doubt that Kurama loves his mother and that Hiei loves Yukina. However, there's not enough evidence to in the series to show that demons perceive *romantic* love the same way humans do.

And Blades_of_Fate, I don't think comparing the Kunzite/Zoicite and Hiei/Kurama is fair. In the Sailor Moon anime, there's no doubt that Kunzite and Zoicite are a couple. In one scene, Kunzite comforts Zoicite while Zoicite cries on his lap. Also, when Zoicite dies, there is no doubt that the two are lovers (Zoicite: "I have become attached to you, Kunzaito-sama.") Hiei and Kurama do not have nearly as close of a relationship as those two. Hiei and Kurama talk to each other, fight side by side, always show up together, etc. But that can be interpretted as within the normal range of friendship. Of course, there's always the possibility that Hiei and Kurama are better at hiding the fact that they are together. ^_~

Blades_of_Fate

February 18th, 2004, 11:31 PM

Originally posted by Tian
Eh...I'd be careful with that one. There's more than enough evidence that demons can *love*. There's no doubt that Kurama loves his mother and that Hiei loves Yukina. However, there's not enough evidence to in the series to show that demons perceive *romantic* love the same way humans do.

And Blades_of_Fate, I don't think comparing the Kunzite/Zoicite and Hiei/Kurama is fair. In the Sailor Moon anime, there's no doubt that Kunzite and Zoicite are a couple. In one scene, Kunzite comforts Zoicite while Zoicite cries on his lap. Also, when Zoicite dies, there is no doubt that the two are lovers (Zoicite: "I have become attached to you, Kunzaito-sama.") Hiei and Kurama do not have nearly as close of a relationship as those two. Hiei and Kurama talk to each other, fight side by side, always show up together, etc. But that can be interpretted as within the normal range of friendship. Of course, there's always the possibility that Hiei and Kurama are better at hiding the fact that they are together. ^_~

I see your point^_~ but they were the first to come to mind when I was thinking of a gay couple who didn't have to hug, kiss or say 'I love you' to prove they are one^_^

Tian

February 19th, 2004, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by Blades_of_Fate
I see your point^_~ but they were the first to come to mind when I was thinking of a gay couple who didn't have to hug, kiss or say 'I love you' to prove they are one^_^

Yeah...I really like the Kunzite/Zoicite couple. ^_^ (Er, maybe that's because I really dig the master/servant thing...)

Dragon Heart

March 9th, 2004, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by Neo SHINIGAMI
I think they would make the best couple,but deep down I do not forget that are just good friends in the anime.(but the anime can just shove-it)!^_~lol..

Heheh... we know Neo, we know! XD;;

Lady Myotismon

March 9th, 2004, 03:26 PM

Mmm... Pinecones,

Ive heard some poepl say they are bi, some say they were gay, and some say straight. I can't really go with any of them because they are cartoon characters, for them to be gay/straight/bi the creator would have to label them as such. And nothing has been said about the sexuality is that they arent a couple. Maybe Hiei and Kurama have girlfriends or boyfriends, what ever it may be back at home. Or maybe they will never be labeled as gay/bi/straight. We may never know.

DrowningInFlame

June 13th, 2006, 12:36 PM

2)Kurama and Hiei are not humans thus they cant love

well ur right theyre not gay ^-^ but #2 is completely wrong they CAN love...Kurama liked a girl named maya in the past(c yyh volume 7)and hiei likes mukuro...plus kurama has a mother and hiei has yukina(his sis) and obviously ull love ur family ^^

DrowningInFlame

June 13th, 2006, 12:44 PM

theyre not gay ..kurama IS really girly(no offence intended) but jes lookin at Hiei can prove he's not gay..rlly he looks like the kinda guy who'd beat u up if u suggested it XD lmao..besides he's with Mukuro..so he's not gay...and Kurama would have to be Bi cause he like Maya...not that he is ^^"...people who like hxk well *shrugs* who cares?i mean they arent hurting ny1...except 4 those who think theyre actually gay in the anime..then theyre jes stupid >( cause there arent even hints of a relationship between them...it jes pisses me off when ppl say hiei's gay tho...i cant help it v.v

Midoriko87

June 13th, 2006, 06:16 PM

Hmm, I've never seen anything that could really support the claim that Hiei and/or Kurama are gay, bisexual or in a relationship with one another. I think it's wishful thinking, or maybe the idea of a non-homosexual feminine-looking man/boy/demon isn't conceivable to some people.

First, I think there's a good chance that Hiei and Mukuro have this thing for each other. However, it's not conventional "Love." It's sorta like this unspoken understanding or bond between the two that only they can understand. Born from their equally traumatic pasts. In my opinion, they're sorta like a prime example of what it means to be "soul mates." Still, not saying they're in a "relationship." In fact, the two may never truly become a "couple." Still, if Hiei ever chooses to pursue a romantic relationship with anyone, Mukuro would probably be #1 on his list. Not the huggy/kissy/lovey dovey type, though.

Kurama? Well, with the scene with Hiei and returning his mother's tear-gem thingy back to Yukina, it'd be natural to assume that he wasn't gay. Although, there's nothing within the series to point to him being straight. Still, since when do people go around announcing their orientation? Are we really at that point in Time when it's necessary? Although, I don't think Kurama can be given a simple label. With "gay," "straight," or "bi," I think people usually consciously know they're physically attracted to either males/females or both. That's probably why I was never into the "Shinji being gay" because the Kaoru thing. Hmm, then again, I'm not sure if I really view that as a conscious desire on Shinji's part to be with Kaoru. Anywho, I have a feeling that if Kurama ever fell hard for someone, the last thing on his mind would be gender.

Now, of course, it's been proven that demons can love. And, I do believe that some of the demons with genders reproduce similarly to human beings or other mammals. I don't know, maybe there's a few that lay eggs, but how likely is that? I think demons in the world of Yu Yu Hakusho are a bit like the Lucifer Hawk in Silent Mobius. There are different categories of Demons, which not only separate demons based on physical strength but also anatomy and intelligence. And, from what I've seen, demons, in general, seem to live by Nature's Law. Meaning: Yeah, they have family bonds and camaraderie, but stuff like Good Will Towards Your Fellow Demon or Defending the Weak probably doesn't register with a good deal of them. But, there are those that possess junk like Compassion for Strangers and Honor/Pride. Very complicated.

Point being, probably definitely maybe not gay. But, continue to write the yaoi fanfiction, and I shall continue loathing the insane, totally implausible couplings. Still, I almost ventured into that Dark Realm once...Of course, before I started writing, I came to my senses. Mithra Bless Yaoi Fanfictioners! And, look forward to my Goku/Vegeta yaoi fic. I promise, it'll be one Hell of a read. Kidding, I'm not that evil. Then again...I Love Yaoi Fanfictioners! Nah, it's more a Love-Hate Relationship. Meaning, I love to...I'll stop. Shalom, Chicken Heads.

Tsukiko

June 13th, 2006, 06:16 PM

Sigh...this is going to turn into a flame war in no time..........

If you think there straight, FINE. If you think there bi or gay FINE. Its all fine and well
to have an opinion or think there gay or straight, BUT DONT STATE IT AS A FACT. Its immature and its pointless, there are always people who are going to say different than you and it all comes down to your own opinion. And dont start talking about evidence because it doesnt prove anything, for example, people who think they are straight even with all your evidence they could still be bi. See, nobody will ever win. Its nothing to get pissed off about, everyone has there own opinion, get over it. And as for fanfiction, if you dont like, dont read.

Few, glad I got that out of my system. Anyway.......

I think there gay, but im a yaoi fangirl and thats what we do...heh heh heh, hiei's such an uke.....

Midoriko87

June 13th, 2006, 06:37 PM

Hmm, personally, I never labeled any of my opinions as "fact." Still, that was kinda idiotic of me. In a debate, there's no "Oh, Gosh and Golly Gee, it's just my humble opinion that Hiei and Kurama are straight/gay/bi." That's cute, but IT'S WRONG!!! That's a 2 Stupid Dogs quote, so no one get their pettycoats in a bunch. Hmm, that's some kinda weird antecedent-pronoun error but whatever. Point being, in a debate, you gather "information" to prove your point. And, then, just let the chips fall. And, judging from the contents of this thread, I do believe they've fallen quite nicely, but I guess we'll need the opinion of some kind of unbiased weirdo to officially call it. Although, I think we already know the deal.

And, the only way this thread could possibly turn into a Flame War is if a homophobe or a special kind of Hiei/Kurama fanfictioner posted. Or idiots...they always know how to get the party started.

Tsukiko

June 13th, 2006, 07:02 PM

I wasnt trying to make anyone angry. I was just saying its nothing to get upset about and that no one can ever prove that they are or not. Sorry, I was only saying what I think.

Tsukiko

June 13th, 2006, 07:10 PM

Oh, and I wasnt attacking you Midoriko, sorry if thats how it sounded.

Yukito Kunisaki

June 13th, 2006, 07:36 PM

Wow... last post before today, was back in...2004 >.>. Anywho, no they are not. People seem to go around assuming so, but in the worst case scenario, Hiei would be bi. He has a crush for his sister. I see stuff online pinning them together seeing they are fighting partners, but I don't see them gay.

LostCause

June 13th, 2006, 07:44 PM

Don't say yes.
Don't say no.
Drop enough hints either way to fuel fangirls imagination.
I'm starting to see it as a really good marketing strategy.
You can argue your heads off and they will be laughing all the way to the bank.

DarkNataku

June 13th, 2006, 10:36 PM

as to hiei i would say no bc he hooked up with that chick in the end but i doubt its an open relationship were they talk about stuff. probably beat the crap out of one another to show their feelings. but kurama is not seen with anyone or for that fact shown to care for girls. lot of ppl mistake him for a chick when they first see him.

Midoriko87

June 14th, 2006, 02:27 AM

Oh, and I wasnt attacking you Midoriko, sorry if thats how it sounded.

Never thought you were, Good Sir. And Yes, I realize you're a girl, but I'm in a gender-mixing kinda mood. In fact, I kinda figured you didn't even notice my post. We posted almost simultaneously, and I highly doubt you'd be able to read my post in like a few seconds...unless you're some kinda crazy speed reader with a super, super fast Internet Connection.

So, I know your post wasn't directed towards Midoriko; however, Midoriko's second post was directed towards you. Just clearing up some issues concerning debates and stuff. There's no room for "I feel" and "I think." One must approach this or any other debatable topic like, "I know, and this is how I know. Example 1 proves this, Example 2 proves that." Well, unless we're trying to avoid hurting people's feelings. Still, it kinda seems weird that someone would throw a hissy concerning the sexual preferences of two cartoon characters. Point being, a opinion means nothing to anyone besides The Opinionator, unless The Opinionator is able to support it. Well, unless The Opinionator doesn't care what others think of his/her opinions, then I guess that's understandable.

Oh, and I always assumed Hiei had a very strong twinly bond with Yukina nothing more.

But, I have a question. I've noticed that a lot of people have this "Well, he never said he wasn't..." deal going on. Is that just an anime thing? I mean, since when do people just say, "I'm straight" unwarranted? Like, is it neccessary? I find that weird... I can understand like being gay/straight and like constantly receiving unwanted advances, but that's like totally different. I've always wondered about that.

Lockheart

June 14th, 2006, 05:12 AM

Rather than flat out denying, didn't the mangaka say he'd like to leave it up to viewer's interpretations on what nature Hiei and Kurama's relationship was? :o I recall reading something years ago about this, how he didn't consider them as a pairing at first, but now it's grown on him? I may be entirely wrong here, but I thought it goes along the lines of that.

LeslieSama

June 14th, 2006, 07:03 AM

lol The old non-couple livens another forum...

Runika Mori

September 3rd, 2006, 03:10 PM

Some japanese magazine asked Yoshihiro Togashi himself about Hiei and Kurama being a couple, and all he did was laugh and say, "No, I did not intend for this couple to appear, but now that people have brought it up, I find it funny and probably should have done it." So NO, they aren't a couple, but that's not saying that the author wouldn't have made it that way had he thought of it.
People really are making a big deal out of nothing... Does it really matter if someone likes a pairing that's canon or non-canon?

earsofdoom

September 3rd, 2006, 03:35 PM

Some japanese magazine asked Yoshihiro Togashi himself about Hiei and Kurama being a couple, and all he did was laugh and say, "No, I did not intend for this couple to appear, but now that people have brought it up, I find it funny and probably should have done it." So NO, they aren't a couple, but that's not saying that the author wouldn't have made it that way had he thought of it.
People really are making a big out of nothing... Does it really matter if someone likes a pairing that's canon or non-canon?

that really does depend.... if it get's to the point where when you do a google search on a serie's and all you get is Yaoi slash pairing site's then it DOES matter.

Animematt55

September 3rd, 2006, 03:36 PM

that really does depend.... if it get's to the point where when you do a google search on a serie's and all you get is Yaoi slash pairing site's then it DOES matter.
I second this. It gets very irritating after a while.

same_animefan

September 3rd, 2006, 07:02 PM

o-0 holy ****. Didn't this thread die a LONG time ago, or am I just crazy?

Animematt55

September 3rd, 2006, 07:06 PM

o-0 holy ****. Didn't this thread die a LONG time ago, or am I just crazy?
a lot of girls have been coming in and ressurecting old threads

Runika Mori

September 3rd, 2006, 08:34 PM

that really does depend.... if it get's to the point where when you do a google search on a serie's and all you get is Yaoi slash pairing site's then it DOES matter.

Well okay fine, maybe in that case...
But it's not THAT hard to find Yu Yu Hakusho hetero pairing sites is it?

same_animefan

September 4th, 2006, 02:52 PM

a lot of girls have been coming in and ressurecting old threads

True, but still. Isn't this nearly a year old by now? o-0 Than again, that Naruto/Sasuke thread is just about that old too...I think. Hm.

^ And, I've never had problems finding hetero pairings. Yusuke/Keiko is everywhere, and you can't blaim it. They are the main pairing. But I can't even begin to list all the Kurama/Botan, Hiei/Botan fan listings/Fan fiction sites I've come across. That's pretty much what you get when you search for one of the characters. I've hardly found any whole sites dedicated to Kurama/Hiei, though they are the most likely to have a slash site, IMO.

They Botan ones annoy me though. If it was any other girl, I could maybe see it...I just...Botan...is too...perky >_> or, something. And Hiei would slash her throat x-x. Kurama, maybe, but Hiei? The only girl I can see him with is Makuro.

Hm, there really actually weren't too mainy main females in that show. Botan,Keiko, Shizuru, Genkai,Yukina...not counting secondary ones. Hm.

White hell

September 18th, 2006, 04:48 PM

Hiei, and kurama a couple?!

same_animefan

September 20th, 2006, 07:07 PM

^not a canon one. A very popular slash pairing, but in the actual series, there is no "real" attraction or love between them, other than being very close friends.

Dinco

September 21st, 2006, 08:52 PM

I've been hearing about this for years. Last I heard the yaoi undertones are more pronounced in the manga than the anime.

perfectionfades

September 2nd, 2007, 01:49 AM

Well, well...I didn't know this debate was still on-going strongly. Isn't it obvious I'm new around here. Yoroshiku onegaishimasu, then. :bow:

Anyhow: I think it's safe to say that we really don't know whether or not they are. I mean, the evidences for either side balance each other out. Also, I believe I heard wind of the creator commenting that they weren't from some people and that they were from some others. It's incredibly confusing! :eww:

So, I will make my stand right here in the middle: They may or my not be. Personally, I think they're good as best friends or as lovers; it doesn't matter. All I know is that they love and care for each other (friendship-wise or otherwise) and that's good enough for me. I support both friendship only fics and slash fics about the two. [with specifications on the slash of course; I definitely abbhor anything poorly written and the plot has to be good, i mean, who likes porn-without-plot, come on!] :wacko:

I also support their bi-ness or gayness or straightness; it is not my nature to discriminate against these terms. Just one thing though: please, they're biologically male and I'm certain that never in the series or mange have they ever been put in dresses, skirts and gowns. So please...lay off the crossdressing. It's not only cruel and unusual punishment; just imagine if both of them were real and saw you drawing/writing them in a dress. Viola! Instant barbecued writer/artist chopped into little pieces. :teehee:

So, with this novel been said, I declare yet again: They may or may not be. Chances are, we'll never know. :heart:

kaethar

September 2nd, 2007, 05:34 AM

I don't label anime characters. o.o

What annoys the hell out of me is when people. OMG, he's not gay!!! OMG, he's totally gay!

BOTH are just as bad. To answer the question of this thread: We don't know.

We don't know what their sexualities are. But we do know that they are not a canon couple in the show. Does this mean that you can't slash them together? Of course not!

I think they'd make a great couple - so I ship them. Nothing wrong with that. It's only wrong if you try to claim that they're a canon couple. ^_^

Animematt55

September 2nd, 2007, 08:15 AM

Hasn't the creator said they were straight? Or at least that he doesn't get where people think they are gay?

same_animefan

September 2nd, 2007, 08:52 AM

^Yes, he has. But I'm pretty sure he isn't against the fandom for it, since there have been official pics of Hiei/Kurama. Not GRAPHIC stuff or anything, but one that comes to mind is the one with Hiei sitting on a bench and Kurama has his arm around him...I can't seem to find it now that I want it, but this is similar

http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Market/6222/lemon/Yaoi1.jpg obviously poorly cropped, but the image is official.

And, why does this thread refuse to die? What else can be said that hasn't been already?

EDIT: I worded my first sentence wrong. Yes, the creator said they were straight, but he also said that it was interesting. He just didn't think it when creating them. That is, if the qoute from him posted by another member is accurate.

Animematt55

September 2nd, 2007, 09:31 AM

same_animefan

September 2nd, 2007, 09:59 AM

^ Yup, it does. Probably the same reason that series' like Saint Seiya had a huge female fan base. Pretty boys. It sells.

I've also heard that Yoshihiro's HunterxHunter has even more slash potential then YuYu did. It came after YuYu, so maybe he saw the potential from the first round? Not that I'm complaining. All the better for me:P

Rhosama

September 3rd, 2007, 07:20 AM

If he wanted to make things really pretty, he could always set things up between Kurama and Bhotan:wub:

Matsu'o Tsurayaba

September 3rd, 2007, 05:01 PM

No..they are not homosexuals.

Yukito Kunisaki

September 3rd, 2007, 05:17 PM

I thought this thread was locked long ago. Guess not. O.o

same_animefan

September 3rd, 2007, 05:27 PM

^not locked, just died...sorta. Maybe more like went in a coma for a year before waking back up. I was actually surprised that this didn't get deleted when AN cleaned up the forums not long ago. It's from 2004 :x

earsofdoom

September 3rd, 2007, 07:01 PM

No they are not, the creator says flat-out "No" and the entire arguement that they are is basically "they didn't say they were straight" I look at girls, i date girls, i say girls are pretty, so since i don't see the logic in telling everyone i know "Im straight" does that make my orientation is questionable? didn't think so, same logic applies.

EDIT: Jesus... this again? who's the one ressurecting all these threads?

Animematt55

September 3rd, 2007, 08:35 PM

Lot of necromancers around. Of course we can have the same old conversations we always do. But since Dark Adonis quit the internets, it wouldnt be the same.

SuperSailorMoon

January 10th, 2008, 07:55 PM

Now, of course, it's been proven that demons can love. And, I do believe that some of the demons with genders reproduce similarly to human beings or other mammals. I don't know, maybe there's a few that lay eggs, but how likely is that? I think demons in the world of Yu Yu Hakusho are a bit like the Lucifer Hawk in Silent Mobius. There are different categories of Demons, which not only separate demons based on physical strength but also anatomy and intelligence. And, from what I've seen, demons, in general, seem to live by Nature's Law. Meaning: Yeah, they have family bonds and camaraderie, but stuff like Good Will Towards Your Fellow Demon or Defending the Weak probably doesn't register with a good deal of them. But, there are those that possess junk like Compassion for Strangers and Honor/Pride. Very complicated.

Point being, probably definitely maybe not gay. But, continue to write the yaoi fanfiction, and I shall continue loathing the insane, totally implausible couplings. Still, I almost ventured into that Dark Realm once...Of course, before I started writing, I came to my senses. Mithra Bless Yaoi Fanfictioners! And, look forward to my Goku/Vegeta yaoi fic. I promise, it'll be one Hell of a read. Kidding, I'm not that evil. Then again...I Love Yaoi Fanfictioners! Nah, it's more a Love-Hate Relationship. Meaning, I love to...I'll stop. Shalom, Chicken Heads.[/FONT][/QUOTE]

I like Kurama. I am also a yaoi fan and non-yaoi fan. Hiei and Kurama are not gay. Because Hiei does not believe in love, it is in one of his songs. Sorry I don't know which on it is. Second Kuram is not gay guys, well at least on in the anime and manga. Kurama is a metosexual pretty boy. Kurama did have a girl friend that he loved so much that he broke up with her. Why you say because he new that he could not be with her. Kurama can love he is not a full demon, but that is not to say that full demons can’t love. Like Hiei that are some that just doesn’t love. Only the A class and higher demons can have offspring with humans. They do this by impregnating a woman. The child can be born our of the love and the too of them. So they can love. I got the info form the YU YU HAKUSHO UNCOVERED THE UNOFFICIAL GUIDE.

pass.
Kurama loves girls so much that gave up his chance at love, with Maya. Because she got caught in the crossfire, of Kurama & Hiei's battle with Yatsude. And so Kurama had to erase her memory of the incidents, and all her memories of Kurama. So if that is not true love of girls then I don't know what is.

So in short in Kurama's case not loving girls, is the purest form love. Because he made the biggest sacrifice for the love of girls.

If you love something set it free.