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SonRyu
November 24th, 2003, 08:17 PM
Ok, here (http://www.sonryu.homestead.com/files/dvd_rkovapreview.jpg) is a preview of what I have going for a Rurouni Kenshin OVA box.
I designed this to hold 5 dvd's:
1. Rurouni Kenshin (Samurai X) OVA 1 pt 1 DVD (Trust)
2. Rurouni Kenshin (Samurai X) OVA 1 pt 2 DVD (Betrayal)
3. Rurouni Kenshin (Samurai X) OVA 1 Director's Cut DVD
4. Rurouni Kenshin (Samurai X) OVA 2 DVD (Reflection)
5. Rurouni Kenshin (Samurai X) Motion Picture DVD
You might notice that I did NOT use the "Samurai X" logo on it... well, yeah, this is Rurouni Kenshin, NOT "Samurai X" (shudders at the name :scared:). I will NOT make a variant with it either :P
You can consider this a design for the "core" RK fan (that uses the alternate DVD covers ;))
I have NOT sent Paul the final version yet, I'd like some feedback from you all :) I'll cross post this in the RK forum :D
Franksta
November 24th, 2003, 08:20 PM
i think it's great. when can i order one? i think it'd make a great xmas present for a friend of mine. ^_^
Rosemary
November 24th, 2003, 08:57 PM
Oooo that RK OAV/Movie box is awesome ^o^ I think this one will be my favorite design from you, and I'l glad you made it to hold 5 dvds (including the director's cut of T and B ^_^)
Ambers79
November 24th, 2003, 09:10 PM
I really like it the Kenshin ova/movie box. I really hadn't intended to order anymore boxes this year, but I guess I was wrong. I just got a big box order from Paul, but this is so good it would drive me nuts not getting it. I am glad the samarai x logo isn't on the box that way it fits well next to the other Kenshin boxes.
SonRyu
November 25th, 2003, 04:35 AM
Originally posted by Franksta
i think it's great. when can i order one? i think it'd make a great xmas present for a friend of mine. ^_^ I'll send Paul the final (cleaned up) version tonight, so I guess you can go ahead and place your order(s) now if you wish :D
SonRyu
November 25th, 2003, 04:15 PM
I've been working on a KOR TV box as per someone's request, so here's (http://www.sonryu.homestead.com/files/dvd_korpreview.jpg) a preview of it. It's sized to hold all 12 DVD's. Not much to do with the design, as all of the artwork is sketched/painted and NOT easy to work with. Regardless, this is the box as requested :)
Depression
November 25th, 2003, 04:24 PM
I think you should consider making a 4 disc version. I think there are a lot of RK fans out there that already owned the Tsuiokuhen OVA and didn't see it worth while buying the directors cut =\
SonRyu
November 25th, 2003, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by Depression
I think you should consider making a 4 disc version. I think there are a lot of RK fans out there that already owned the Tsuiokuhen OVA and didn't see it worth while buying the directors cut =\ There are WAY too many "considerations" for this particular RK box, so it's best to NOT. Perhaps they can put in the "Techniques Special" dvd when that comes out ;)
Depression
November 25th, 2003, 07:07 PM
I'll just put my bootleg Seisouhen dvd I've had for a year before I had the R1 release lol
SonRyu
November 25th, 2003, 07:11 PM
Originally posted by Depression
I'll just put my bootleg Seisouhen dvd I've had for a year before I had the R1 release lol That's what I'll do since I don't have the DC of Tsuiokuhen either :lol:
Ambers79
November 25th, 2003, 10:50 PM
Your KOR TV box is so beautiful that it makes me what to check out the series. I hadn't really been interested in it, but maybe I need to take a second look.
SonRyu
November 26th, 2003, 04:35 AM
AAAACKKKK!!! THEY CLEANED OUT MY THREAD :( I guess 30+ pages was too long for them :bawling: Oh well, I guess that was old news anyway (but now I can't go back and see who asked me for what box ;))
edit: Hm... the "General Anime Discussion" thread has 275 pages right now, so I don't think that was fair... oh well :/
Shocking Alberto
November 26th, 2003, 06:32 AM
That looks so sexy. I think the design is perfect.
Cow
November 26th, 2003, 08:18 AM
NICE RYU! I remeber how I always wanted you to make 1 about 6 months ago yay its here in time for X-MAS!
tokyo tower
November 26th, 2003, 09:07 AM
The preview pic is kinda small, but looks very nice. I'm glad you used Takada's artwork!:crush:
Otaku Playboy !
November 26th, 2003, 09:33 AM
Originally posted by SonRyu
AAAACKKKK!!! THEY CLEANED OUT MY THREAD :( I guess 30+ pages was too long for them :bawling: Oh well, I guess that was old news anyway (but now I can't go back and see who asked me for what box ;))
edit: Hm... the "General Anime Discussion" thread has 275 pages right now, so I don't think that was fair... oh well :/
Don't worry just in case you forgot who asked for what...I'm the guy who continously ask about the Ai Yori Aoshi Box..just thought I'd put it out there-o-;
BTW I know you said it wouldn't be done before Christmas...I'm still curious as to how's it coming along? :???:
Ambers79
November 26th, 2003, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by SonRyu
AAAACKKKK!!! THEY CLEANED OUT MY THREAD :( I guess 30+ pages was too long for them :bawling: Oh well, I guess that was old news anyway (but now I can't go back and see who asked me for what box ;))
I am sure everyone will remind you of what they requested:D You have already fullfilled my request with the Kenshin boxes and now the ova box as well. I like being surprised at what you have designed next even if I don't own the series. My collection keeps growing and I have even collected a couple series because of your designs.
Edit: I emailed Paul about the Kenshin OVA box. He said that it proably wouldn't go into production before the holidays. I asked him to email me when it did and ordered a Macross box in the meantime.
SonRyu
November 26th, 2003, 03:09 PM
Otaku: I haven't yet started the Ai Yori Aoshi box, though I DO believe I have enough pics to work with.
If Paul is saying that he won't have the RK OVA box ready for the Holiday's, then NONE of my new designs will be. That being the case, I might not start _any_ new boxes til after the Holiday's, when I get my free time back. No point rushing designs if he isn't printing them ;)
I guess it IS a good thing in a way that he doesn't have time to print new designs right now, since that means business is doing extremely well... :D
sys2021
November 26th, 2003, 03:14 PM
Great job on the Kenshin OVA box.
I bet you've already been asked, but will there be a RahXephon box in the future? I personally think ADV could have done a much better job with the initial box... the R2 art for this series is phenomenal. The R1 cover art is good and all, but those R2s.... so beautiful... :drool: -o-;
SonRyu
November 26th, 2003, 03:18 PM
Originally posted by sys2021
Great job on the Kenshin OVA box.
I bet you've already been asked, but will there be a RahXephon box in the future? I personally think ADV could have done a much better job with the initial box... the R2 art for this series is phenomenal. The R1 cover art is good and all, but those R2s.... so beautiful... :drool: -o-; I COULD have told you to scroll back a few pages for the RahXephon answer, but... ;)
I DO have plans to make one, but I am waiting to see if the Movie is coming over so I can include it in the design. I also need to get ahold of the artbook too :)
Dani
December 1st, 2003, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by SonRyu
I COULD have told you to scroll back a few pages for the RahXephon answer, but... ;)
I DO have plans to make one, but I am waiting to see if the Movie is coming over so I can include it in the design. I also need to get ahold of the artbook too :)
ADV announced that they had the RahXephon movie at Anime Expo this year. So that would be a yes.
SonRyu
December 1st, 2003, 05:44 PM
Originally posted by Dani
ADV announced that they had the RahXephon movie at Anime Expo this year. So that would be a yes. I guess I missed that announcement :D
Know, I know there's a RahXephon OVA, but is that the one that comes with the PS2 game, or is there another?
I still won't start the box though til I know how ADV is packaging the Movie... it'd be most unfortunate if they used one of those thicker cases and I sized the box for standard :lol:
Shocking Alberto
December 1st, 2003, 06:22 PM
I'll be one of the first fanboys on that RahX box when it comes out. Yay! :D
gunslinger
December 1st, 2003, 07:04 PM
Looks good. Though I do wish there was a 4 dvd box. I guess I could add an emty case in there to take up space.
joeshmoe713
December 2nd, 2003, 07:02 PM
Im wondering if you were planning on making a 3-disc K.O. Beast box. There is no box for it, and I would like one.
Im just throwing out there.
SonRyu
December 2nd, 2003, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by joeshmoe713
Im wondering if you were planning on making a 3-disc K.O. Beast box. There is no box for it, and I would like one.
Im just throwing out there. If I can find a source of images, then I'll see what I can do ;)
sys2021
December 3rd, 2003, 01:22 PM
I would really like to see a .hack//sign box! I assume you're waiting to see if Integration will be released, before you design the box?
Mayuka's Angel~
December 3rd, 2003, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by sys2021
I would really like to see a .hack//sign box! I assume you're waiting to see if Integration will be released, before you design the box?
It wouldn't really matter if //Integration came stateside or not, as the only thing in //Integration for //SIGN is Episode: 28 Unison, and that is being included with .hack//SIGN Ver.06. ;)
On that note, I don't really see //Integration coming stateside, as one of the main reasons it was released in Japan was for "Unison". Seeing as we're getting it with //SIGN Ver.06, there really isn't much reason to release it here. ^^;
Char0079
December 3rd, 2003, 02:07 PM
I still think a Dai Guard box would be cool.
Mayuka's Angel~
December 3rd, 2003, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by Char0079
I still think a Dai Guard box would be cool.
I would LOVE to see a Dai-Guard box. I was half tempted to buy the Region 2 boxes, as each box can hold 7 DVDs, I believe. 1 for the DVD that comes with the box and then 6 for ADV's release, filling the box. :)
I never did order them, though. Maybe if I have extra cash later on (very unlikely -_-;).
SonRyu
December 3rd, 2003, 03:46 PM
The only thing stopping me from designing a .hack box is the serious lack of artwork. When I hear that there is a Yoshiyuki Sadamoto .hack artbook, I'll be all over it faster than you can say grunty :D
I think I've done a search before for DaiGuard images, and that turned up nothing. Can't design a box without images :(
Char0079
December 3rd, 2003, 06:22 PM
Ever thought about an original Mobile Suit Gundam TV series box?
SonRyu
December 3rd, 2003, 07:00 PM
Originally posted by Char0079
Ever thought about an original Mobile Suit Gundam TV series box? I've thought of Gundam boxes, but that's a large project. Since I don't watch Gundam (only seen Wing and G on Toonami), I don't know one Gundam series or mech from another. I'd hate to design a box with the wrong characters/Gundam's on it, so I'd have to do extensive research before I start...
Dani
December 6th, 2003, 03:07 PM
Do you have any Cardcaptor Sakura boxes in the works? Two ten-disc boxes would seem to work nicely for the series, and it's one that seriously needs a box (or two).
!n|=3c+iOn
December 6th, 2003, 04:18 PM
i'm still waiting for the day you announce a soultaker box...
give the soultaker a home!
:lol:
SonRyu
December 6th, 2003, 05:37 PM
I have plans to do 2 CCS boxes, but as of right now I don't have any images to use (nor have I looked for any yet).
!n|=3c+iOn, how's about you supply me with the images ;)
!n|=3c+iOn
December 7th, 2003, 09:02 AM
i might just do that!
you'll see!
JJ01769
December 7th, 2003, 09:04 AM
Have you thought about doing one for Kyo?
SonRyu
December 7th, 2003, 10:12 AM
Originally posted by JJ01769
Have you thought about doing one for Kyo? Yes, I have thought about it. However, so far I have only found the images used for the dvd covers, and I'd like to avoid duplicate images as much as possible.
SonRyu
December 9th, 2003, 04:30 PM
"It's SHOWTIME!"
Here's (http://www.sonryu.homestead.com/files/dvd_bigo.jpg) a preview of the Big O box (8 dvd's).
Much thanks to trekkieb47 for all the help!
Ollin
December 9th, 2003, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by SonRyu
"It's SHOWTIME!"
Here's (http://www.sonryu.homestead.com/files/dvd_bigo.jpg) a preview of the Big O box (8 dvd's).
Much thanks to trekkieb47 for all the help!
Very nice box. Its a shame I own the brick. I guess its time to part way with it and buy the individual DVD's soon.
SonRyu
December 9th, 2003, 04:52 PM
Originally posted by Ollin
Very nice box. Its a shame I own the brick. I guess its time to part way with it and buy the individual DVD's soon. I thought you just collected the boxes for collector's sake; I had thought that you did NOT store the actual dvd's in them o_O You could always just put the brick in the box ^^
trekkieb47
December 9th, 2003, 05:21 PM
Thanks Nick for making my dream a reality. ^^
Berry
Ollin
December 9th, 2003, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by SonRyu
I thought you just collected the boxes for collector's sake; I had thought that you did NOT store the actual dvd's in them o_O You could always just put the brick in the box ^^
They are collector's value to me at the same time I have to put them to good use. Space is getting limited as is so I can't really do that anymore. R2 boxes is another story....
spooncivicR
December 11th, 2003, 12:06 AM
Originally posted by SonRyu
"It's SHOWTIME!"
Here's (http://www.sonryu.homestead.com/files/dvd_bigo.jpg) a preview of the Big O box (8 dvd's).
Much thanks to trekkieb47 for all the help!
That may be your best design yet, but I am still waiting to see a KOR box...
SonRyu
December 11th, 2003, 04:31 AM
Originally posted by spooncivicR
That may be your best design yet, but I am still waiting to see a KOR box... This (http://www.sonryu.homestead.com/files/dvd_korpreview.jpg) is a custom design I did for the KOR TV series...
sys2021
December 23rd, 2003, 02:15 AM
Hmm... before this gets to the 3rd page... ever thought of doing a Nadesico box? The movie's out already, so I assume the only thing stopping you would be a lack of quality artwork? If you do ever make a Nadesico box, think you could make one to fit the brick+the movie together? Haha, seems silly, but I own the brick like many others, and it's really the only way for me to have the TV series and movie bundled together...
SonRyu
December 23rd, 2003, 03:23 AM
Even though I would love to do a Nadesico design, I believe that is on Paul's list to do already. That being the case, it'll probably be for the TV series only, not for the brick or to include the movie.
DTangent
December 23rd, 2003, 11:17 AM
Any plans to do a GTO box? I bought the org 10 before the box's were planned.
SonRyu
December 23rd, 2003, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by DTangent
Any plans to do a GTO box? I bought the org 10 before the box's were planned. Plans yes, actual pics to work with no.
The Seatbelts
December 24th, 2003, 12:39 AM
I really like your Haibane Renmei box design. It's simple, yet very effective.
DTangent
December 24th, 2003, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by SonRyu
Plans yes, actual pics to work with no.
Ya. Shame too. We noticed that when trying to find pics of GTO for our site headers.
lovehinabebop
January 9th, 2004, 10:39 PM
Hey SonRyu, have you ever gotten around to designing one for the Slayers tv series?? Im just asking cause i just got my box and i the design but the box doesnt seem that sturdy. Would it be possible for me to just scan the images and send them to Paul or You??
SonRyu
January 10th, 2004, 09:09 AM
Originally posted by lovehinabebop
Hey SonRyu, have you ever gotten around to designing one for the Slayers tv series?? Im just asking cause i just got my box and i the design but the box doesnt seem that sturdy. Would it be possible for me to just scan the images and send them to Paul or You?? I also have the Slayers TV dvd box sets, and I don't much like those official boxes either. I HAVE been working on my own, however, I've hit a bit of a snag. An online friend was supplying me with awesome scans to use, but I still don't have enough to work with, and this friend has gone AWOL :(
Basically I need scans of the main characters that are NOT of Lina, Gourry, Zelgadis or Amelia. I have plenty of these 4, but pics of everyone else is hard to come by :bawling: Most notably Sylphiel, Martina, Xellos, Gaav, Valgaav, and Filia.
Screenshots are no good, nor are scans from the packages (which I could just do myself anyway). I keep hoping that someone with artbooks will volunteer to send me scans, but that hasn't happened yet... for now, the Slayers boxes are on hold til I an get a source of images.
sys2021
January 10th, 2004, 05:53 PM
Just wondering... any plans to make boxes for the following series?:
-Hellsing
-Golden Boy
-Strawberry Eggs
-Those Who Hunt Elves
Just wondering... and if/when the RahXephon movie is released in the States, I would love to see a box. The ADV one is so pitiful...
edit: heh, I already asked about the RahXephon box, so don't mind that. I'm interested in a box for the other series. I also wouldn't mind seeing your take on a FLCL box too.
SonRyu
January 10th, 2004, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by sys2021
Just wondering... any plans to make boxes for the following series?:
-Hellsing
-Golden Boy
-Strawberry Eggs
-Those Who Hunt Elves
Just wondering... and if/when the RahXephon movie is released in the States, I would love to see a box. The ADV one is so pitiful...
edit: heh, I already asked about the RahXephon box, so don't mind that. I'm interested in a box for the other series. I also wouldn't mind seeing your take on a FLCL box too. Good Hellsing and Golden Boy imges are hard to come by, so I can't start boxes til I find images.
I'll add Those Who Hunt Elves & Strawberry Eggs to my "find pics" list.
I'll attempt a RahXephon box as soon as the movie is released and I order the artbook. The FLCL box I was working on isn't going so well (few pics to work with), so it's on hold.
SonRyu
January 11th, 2004, 07:32 PM
This (http://www.sonryu.homestead.com/files/dvd_hacktemp.jpg) is a preview of what I have going so far for a .hack//SIGN box. Please do NOT place orders for this, it is a work-in-progress. I just want to get some feedback on it right now. FYI, it is extremely hard to find suitable images to use for .hack, so that's why I went with this kind of design, instead of the typical "images on all sides" type.
Banchan
January 11th, 2004, 08:15 PM
I think if anything the spine needs a pic instead of the logo.
Ollin
January 11th, 2004, 08:18 PM
Agreed. One thing I hate about Bandai is all their box spines have huge logo's on them.
SonRyu
January 11th, 2004, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by AnimedragonZ
I think if anything the spine needs a pic instead of the logo. Easier said than done, like I've said on numerous occasions, it's hard finding good .hack images.
sys2021
January 11th, 2004, 09:20 PM
I'm not a fan of the plain-ness of the box... having only one image, and of all places, the top of the box seems odd to me. Even if you had a character on either side of the box, extending partially into the spine, it would look a lot better, I think.
SonRyu
January 11th, 2004, 09:26 PM
Originally posted by sys2021
I'm not a fan of the plain-ness of the box... having only one image, and of all places, the top of the box seems odd to me. Even if you had a character on either side of the box, extending partially into the spine, it would look a lot better, I think. Which actually leads me into BUILD v2.0 (http://www.sonryu.homestead.com/files/dvd_hacktemp1.jpg) :D So far that's about all I've found to work with; still looking for an image to put on the other side...
sys2021
January 11th, 2004, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by SonRyu
Which actually leads me into BUILD v2.0 (http://www.sonryu.homestead.com/files/dvd_hacktemp1.jpg) :D So far that's about all I've found to work with; still looking for an image to put on the other side... heh, getting there... images are hard to find, huh? The more images, the better. More images and less hexagons would make it look a lot better. ^_^
edit: It'd be real nice if you could get an overall "flow" to the box, rather than just random images ^^;; I know you said it's hard to find good images for it, but it'd be great if the images flowed from side to side, instead of just having 3 random ones placed on the box. I definitely like the 3rd design the best, but I think it could be altered a bit still.
SonRyu
January 12th, 2004, 08:28 PM
Hm, ok... more work on the hack box, lookee here (http://www.sonryu.homestead.com/files/dvd_hacktemp2.jpg) for version 3.0, critique please :D
Stranger
January 12th, 2004, 08:31 PM
It's getting better with each build, but I would agree with sys2021 in saying that it could use less hexagons
ladystarlight
January 12th, 2004, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by SonRyu
Hm, ok... more work on the hack box, lookee here (http://www.sonryu.homestead.com/files/dvd_hacktemp2.jpg) for version 3.0, critique please :D
it's look great :)
SonRyu
January 13th, 2004, 06:40 PM
Wanted to get rid of some of the blank space on the left side (with Subaru), so I added the Twilight Bracelet (and NO that's NOT the 'One Ring to rule them all' :P) Still a work-in-progress of course...
lookee (http://www.sonryu.homestead.com/files/dvd_hacktemp3.jpg)
Banchan
January 13th, 2004, 06:48 PM
Much better then before. It needs a grunty!
Stranger
January 13th, 2004, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by AnimedragonZ
Much better then before. It needs a grunty!
Or 4, you can never go wrong with 4 Grunty's
SonRyu
January 14th, 2004, 08:28 PM
OK, this (http://www.sonryu.homestead.com/files/dvd_hacksign.jpg) is it as far as I am concerned. Sorry, no grunties ;) I'm sending the final build to Paul, so there may still be minor cosmetic adjustments as per the norm once he test prints. Feel free to place orders starting now :D
Oh yeah, all previous preview links are now DEAD (removed files from server).
sys2021
January 14th, 2004, 08:45 PM
Originally posted by SonRyu
OK, this (http://www.sonryu.homestead.com/files/dvd_hacksign.jpg) is it as far as I am concerned. Sorry, no grunties ;) I'm sending the final build to Paul, so there may still be minor cosmetic adjustments as per the norm once he test prints. Feel free to place orders starting now :D
Oh yeah, all previous preview links are now DEAD (removed files from server). Heh, guess images are really that hard to find, eh? ;) Anyways the final design isn't bad. Once I get some money I may have to buy it. There are quite a few cases I need to buy, but there's no way I can drop 300+ that easily -o-;
Banchan
January 15th, 2004, 04:57 AM
Now it's time for a Devil Lady box! There is an artbook out their but I don't feel like buying now.
TK
January 16th, 2004, 02:01 PM
Sweet box Sonryu another great design
Im yet to purchase a box from Paul but as soon as i get enough money i will be making a few purchases
Kagerou
January 17th, 2004, 06:07 PM
If you're taking suggestions, a nice pretty RahXephon box would be really nice :)
Shocking Alberto
January 18th, 2004, 03:43 AM
^ Definately, I think there's already a long line for that one. :D But I think he's waiting on whether the RahXephon movie has a concrete release date here or something.
Kagerou
January 18th, 2004, 10:50 AM
Well, I'm guessing its going to come eventually...hopefully soon :(
SonRyu
January 27th, 2004, 06:46 PM
I've decided to "move" my site to it's own domain, so the new addy is:
www.sonryudesigns.com
Same look, same content, just different address ;)
Zophar
January 28th, 2004, 01:04 PM
Any chance you would do an Infinite Ryvius box when the series is done?
SonRyu
January 28th, 2004, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by roronoa zoro
Any chance you would do an Infinite Ryvius box when the series is done? I'll add it to my "look for pics' list ;)
Zophar
January 28th, 2004, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by SonRyu
I'll add it to my "look for pics' list ;)
Thanks. If you make one, I'll buy it.
Mercury Shadow
January 28th, 2004, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by SonRyu
I've decided to "move" my site to it's own domain, so the new addy is:
www.sonryudesigns.com
Same look, same content, just different address ;)
Awesome. I may be picking up your Ceres box. I'll be needing one when I get all 8 dvds. :)
SonRyu
January 28th, 2004, 05:46 PM
Originally posted by Mercury Shadow
Awesome. I may be picking up your Ceres box. I'll be needing one when I get all 8 dvds. :) Though I may be taking away from a sale because of this, do you know that there are 2 Ceres Collection dvd's?
Zophar
January 28th, 2004, 05:49 PM
How do you make these boxes anyway?
SonRyu
January 28th, 2004, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by roronoa zoro
How do you make these boxes anyway? Um.. I don't Paul does (makes them that is) :P
As for my designing them, well, it's a lot of time spent in PhotoShop.
Zophar
January 28th, 2004, 06:27 PM
ahhh yes, you are the designer. You're boxes kick *** though!
SonRyu
January 29th, 2004, 05:06 PM
Here's (http://www.sonryudesigns.com/files/dvd_runesoldier.jpg) an advance look at my Rune Soldier design. It's basically done, I just have to do some minor color adjusts. So, um, feel free to order :)
Ollin
January 29th, 2004, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by SonRyu
Here's (http://www.sonryudesigns.com/files/dvd_runesoldier.jpg) an advance look at my Rune Soldier design. It's basically done, I just have to do some minor color adjusts. So, um, feel free to order :)
Great job on the box. If there's a box needed for a series it had to be Rune Soldier.
ladystarlight
January 29th, 2004, 08:55 PM
great job :)
Hitokiri X
February 3rd, 2004, 12:28 PM
Hey Nick I was wondering if there would be anyway you might consider a box for the Rurouni Kenshin Box Sets Im sorry if that sounds stupid but the boxes media blaster created may look awesome but they cant be stoood up without the top falling off and all the slip cases falling out.
BTW I love your boxes I plan on ordering 2 of them this friday I have already talked to Mr. Champagne.
Keep up the good work
Ashu
February 3rd, 2004, 01:18 PM
i cant see whats in the link o-o but i have seen the newest series of Rurouni Kenshin art on the DVDs, looks pretty spiffy
sys2021
February 3rd, 2004, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by Hitokiri X
Hey Nick I was wondering if there would be anyway you might consider a box for the Rurouni Kenshin Box Sets Im sorry if that sounds stupid but the boxes media blaster created may look awesome but they cant be stoood up without the top falling off and all the slip cases falling out.
BTW I love your boxes I plan on ordering 2 of them this friday I have already talked to Mr. Champagne.
Keep up the good work SonRyu already made boxes for RK and the OVAs.
http://www.sonryu.homestead.com/files/dvd_rk1_tokyo.jpeg
http://www.sonryu.homestead.com/files/dvd_rk2_kyoto.jpeg
http://www.sonryu.homestead.com/files/dvd_rk3_meiji.jpeg
http://www.sonryu.homestead.com/files/dvd_rkova.jpg
Stranger
February 3rd, 2004, 02:13 PM
Hitokiri wants a box, for the boxes...Which is kinda pointless if you ask me
Hitokiri X
February 3rd, 2004, 02:22 PM
i know it definiltey sound pointless and stupid and he probally wont do it but if you own the kenshin bento boxes u would understand what i meen
they are annoying as hell and u can only lay them down and since it doesnt even say kenshin on the sides it looks kinda stupid.
But i'll probally just tufffit out and stand it up having the top taped to the box :bawling:
SonRyu
February 3rd, 2004, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by Hitokiri X
i know it definiltey sound pointless and stupid and he probally wont do it but if you own the kenshin bento boxes u would understand what i meen
they are annoying as hell and u can only lay them down and since it doesnt even say kenshin on the sides it looks kinda stupid.
But i'll probally just tufffit out and stand it up having the top taped to the box :bawling: I don't yet have the Bento boxes, so I'm not sure of their size, but I doubt they would fit inside one of Paul's metal frames anyway.
Hitokiri X
February 3rd, 2004, 04:58 PM
they are .5 inch bigger on the top and .5 inchbigger to the side of a normal DVD case.
hope that helps
sys2021
February 3rd, 2004, 05:04 PM
I could see a slipcase, but a box for the box is kind of extreme. A slipcase might be nice, but all Paul does is make metal boxes, I thought.
SonRyu
February 3rd, 2004, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by Hitokiri X
they are .5 inch bigger on the top and .5 inchbigger to the side of a normal DVD case.
hope that helps Those definitely won't fit in one of Paul's boxes. He definitely won't create new templates for this either, and honestly, I wouldn't even want to design a box for those.
Hitokiri X
February 4th, 2004, 01:00 PM
i hear you. It was a stupid idea anyway :P
Besides Ive finaly got the damn thing to stand up on its own without the top falling off.
MB plans to realese some sort of thing to hold the 3 boses together anyway so guess I'll just wait and c
:cheers:
By the way does anyone know where i can find a slip case, because that is a brilliant idea
SonRyu
February 10th, 2004, 09:07 PM
Ok, I have a preview of my newest design, this is for Card Captor Sakura. There are TWO boxes here, EACH holds 10 dvd's. These will accomadate the 18 uncut CCS dvd's, and the two CCS movies. I do not have plans to make a box for the edited CC's dvd's (who would buy those anyway :P) As usual, the design may vary a bit, depending on how it goes when Paul test prints it. If there are any changes, I'll let you all know. See it here (http://www.sonryudesigns.com/files/dvd_ccs.jpg).
Banchan
February 11th, 2004, 05:42 AM
If I had the money, I'd buy all of CCS just so I could buy those boxes to hold the disks.
sys2021
February 11th, 2004, 10:47 AM
100th post -o-;
Great job on the CCS boxes, SonRyu. I like how the top image connects between the two boxes. Haven't seen any CCS myself, so I'll pass up on the box, but a great design, though.
Stranger
February 11th, 2004, 10:49 AM
That's a very nice box. Too bad I don't have CCS to put into it though -o-;
ladystarlight
February 11th, 2004, 05:47 PM
i love it ccs box :) kewl.
SonRyu
February 24th, 2004, 05:38 PM
Got the actual (http://www.sonryu.homestead.com/files/dvd_cardcaptor.jpg) Cardcaptor pics from Paul, enjoy (and thanks to those who already ordered them ^^V)
SonRyu
March 9th, 2004, 05:47 AM
Wow, awfully quiet in here....
That's ok, hopefully I'll stir things up soon ;) Yes yes, been very busy working on designs :D
Oh yeah, for those interested: Paul's been working with ADV on an official design for Noir. This (http://www.designpaulchampagne.com/images/cases/noir%20layout.jpg) is the PROPOSED design. It has not yet been approved by the property owners, so it may change or not happen at all.
Haibane
March 9th, 2004, 05:55 AM
Where can you order the boxes??
-o-;
sys2021
March 9th, 2004, 10:46 AM
Originally posted by Haibane
Where can you order the boxes??
-o-; ..... -_-;
If you haven't been reading SonRyu's posts, or visiting his website... they're Paul Champagne boxes. Paul is the one making the boxes. SonRyu designs most of the anime ones.
Paul's website: http://www.designpaulchampagne.com/
You have to e-mail Paul about any order inquiries/pricing. His e-mail is champagn@stx.rr.com as listed on his website.
SonRyu
March 9th, 2004, 09:21 PM
Attention Slayers fans!!!!
Tired of those crappy, flimsy, bad quality boxes that the Slayers TV dvd's come in? Looking for something high quality and sturdy as a replacement? Then look no further!!! SonRyu Designs is proud to present:
Custom Slayers Designs!!! (http://www.sonryudesigns.com/files/dvd_slayers.jpg)
This was a labor of love :crush: I spent MONTHS on this project, with much help from two very kind individuals, 'Rai' (http://raiquee.deviantart.com/) , and Diane (http://www.purple-gizmo.com/ichiban_victory/index.html) (site currently down, will be back up soon) :) Without their help, this probably would not have been possible.
There MIGHT be minor asthetic changes when Paul attempts his initial test prints of these, but I WILL inform you of any such changes.
I will cross post this in the Slayers forum :D
On a related note, I DO plan on designing a Slayers Movie box soon ;)
ladystarlight
March 9th, 2004, 09:24 PM
i love them but i don't these dvds let -_-;
Jinpun
March 9th, 2004, 10:43 PM
WOW... GREAT BUSINESS YOU TWO HAVE GOING. I HOPE BUSINESS STAYS ABOOMING!!!
Also, so no Mobile Suit Gundam (original) box? It would be great since they never released the series in a box set.
Thanks
Stranger
March 10th, 2004, 06:40 AM
Originally posted by ladystarlight
i love them but i don't these dvds let -_-;
:goof: :goof: Wanna give that another try?
I love the Slayers designs, I think i'm going to be ordering a NEXT box. :)
sys2021
March 11th, 2004, 10:09 AM
Not to complain about the domestic box or anything, but I wouldn't mind seeing your take on a Last Exile box, SonRyu. I can't imagine that it'd be too hard to find quality images for that series, since it's fairly new. I've just been staring at my box, and for some reason it's lost its appeal... if you made one where the images connected from all sides, I think it would turn out nicely. I'm just interested in your take on a Last Exile box, actually.
edit: The Noir box isn't bad, but I don't like how bold the characters are on the two sides of the box. On the spine it's more forgiving, though. Chloe definitely stands out too much on the left side for my tastes. I like the idea, though. Another thought may be removing Kirika and Mireille from that side, and having Chloe and the other lady (forgot her name -o-;) more in the foreground.
Heat Guy J
March 11th, 2004, 12:44 PM
That noir box is just.....wow. Color me impressed. Hopefully those images are okay with everybody because they sure look good.
mtp_2002
March 11th, 2004, 01:50 PM
Man that Cowboy Bebop box was nice I shure do wish Bandai had not asked him to stop making it!
SonRyu
March 11th, 2004, 06:09 PM
Remember, PAUL made that Noir box, not I ;)
I've been thinking about doing a Last Exile box, but I won't attempt it for a while; there's no rush.
lovehinabebop
March 14th, 2004, 11:01 AM
Hey man is there an Armitage Box available yet?? I would really love to have one since im a big Armitage fan and own all three dvd's that were release(OVA, Polymatrix, and Dual Matrix) If not would it be posible for me to find the pictures and send them to SonRyu or Paul?? Thanks
RaiZ
March 14th, 2004, 02:41 PM
*dances for the Slayers box* woooo! ^_^
SonRyu
March 14th, 2004, 02:41 PM
I have not yet attempted an Armitage box; I think this is the first request... If you can find pics, that's great, but please note that they have to be BIG and high quality. PM me links if you find images on the web.
lovehinabebop
March 14th, 2004, 02:47 PM
OKay then ill get started later today when i get home from work. I think if i scan the covers they come out big and high quality. But for sure ill PM you some links tommorow.
sys2021
March 15th, 2004, 07:49 PM
Nick, have you had a request for a His and Her Circumstances box? TRSI's box is sturdy and all, but I wouldn't mind seeing a different design.
Oh yeah, I take it the Noir box will be available through TRSI? I figure because Paul's past ADV boxes have been sold through there, this one would too... it says on his site that there may be a 2nd run of the EVA boxes... any news on that? Or did I already miss out on that? It's a shame that the only alternative box offered for that series was a limited run.
Ollin
March 15th, 2004, 08:25 PM
Originally posted by sys2021
Oh yeah, I take it the Noir box will be available through TRSI? I figure because Paul's past ADV boxes have been sold through there, this one would too... it says on his site that there may be a 2nd run of the EVA boxes... any news on that? Or did I already miss out on that? It's a shame that the only alternative box offered for that series was a limited run.
The Eva PC boxes have been sold out for a year now. The initial run already was sold out so I doubt Paul will be making more. I'm glad I bought the Gasaraki, Eva, and BGC 2040 boxes early since all have been OOP.
SonRyu
March 15th, 2004, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by sys2021
Nick, have you had a request for a His and Her Circumstances box? TRSI's box is sturdy and all, but I wouldn't mind seeing a different design.
Oh yeah, I take it the Noir box will be available through TRSI? I figure because Paul's past ADV boxes have been sold through there, this one would too... it says on his site that there may be a 2nd run of the EVA boxes... any news on that? Or did I already miss out on that? It's a shame that the only alternative box offered for that series was a limited run. I have several requests for a Kare Kano box, in fact, I'd love to do one simply because I like the series... sadly however, I haven't seen any kind of artwork outside of manga... Even the official box is comprised of screenshots, which I can't settle for that...
The Noir box will proabbyl be available through TRSI again, but I don't think Paul has even received approval to go ahead with it yet (he needs approval from ADV AND the Japanese license holders).
I don't see anything on the site about a 2nd run of the NGE boxes... as for whether there WILL be a 2nd run or not, only ADV and Paul know that.
sys2021
March 15th, 2004, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by SonRyu
I don't see anything on the site about a 2nd run of the NGE boxes... as for whether there WILL be a 2nd run or not, only ADV and Paul know that. Yeah, silly me, I just recall a month or so ago that there may have been something alluding to a 2nd run... oh well, my mistake ^^;. Thanks for the info.
sys2021
March 24th, 2004, 06:04 PM
Just out of curiousity, would Paul ever consider making his own slipcases? I would imagine a metal slipcase may not be desirable, but I kind of wonder what Paul could do if he used resin. He could also use resin for boxes, too... Yeah, just a thought. Metal slipcases for single discs may not be that popular, either...
SonRyu
March 24th, 2004, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by sys2021
Just out of curiousity, would Paul ever consider making his own slipcases? I would imagine a metal slipcase may not be desirable, but I kind of wonder what Paul could do if he used resin. He could also use resin for boxes, too... Yeah, just a thought. Metal slipcases for single discs may not be that popular, either... I don't know what's possible to make with the resources he has, best to ask him.
SonRyu
April 20th, 2004, 05:13 PM
Sorry for the recent site down-time, but I've been getting WAY more traffic than expected, and it's a lot more now than what it used to be. That's partially because Paul's European friends are linking to me now, so that added traffic keeps putting me over my bandwidth limit. After 3 consecutive months of going over the limit though, I decided to upgrade my sites services, so now I have a ton more bandwidth to play with.
Paul says the Slayers boxes look fantastic, and he has already sold and shipped some to customers. As soon as I get the actual pics, I'll let you all know.
Currently, I am working on a box for all 7 Slayers Movies; I'm not sure what'll be next yet.
sys2021
April 20th, 2004, 05:43 PM
Well, now that the RahXephon movie has been unveiled... is a box finally in the works?
SonRyu
April 20th, 2004, 06:55 PM
Oh, by the way, Paul just designed a box for Last Exile (http://www.sonryu.homestead.com/files/dvd_LastExile.jpg)
I haven't started the Rahx box yet since I have not yet bought the artbook.
Depression
April 20th, 2004, 07:31 PM
Oh, by the way, Paul just designed a box for Last Exile (http://www.sonryu.homestead.com/files/dvd_LastExile.jpg)
I haven't started the Rahx box yet since I have not yet bought the artbook.
Most excellent.
BLACKANGEL32076
April 21st, 2004, 03:18 PM
Hey bud, you got anything cooking for Twelve Kingdoms, Haibane Renmei or Argentosoma?
Banchan
April 21st, 2004, 03:22 PM
Argentosoma needs priority! Grey paper folded into a parallelpiped shape != box !!!
SonRyu
April 21st, 2004, 04:02 PM
Hey bud, you got anything cooking for Twelve Kingdoms, Haibane Renmei or Argentosoma?I guess you haven't actually been to my site yet; I've already designed a box for Haibane Renmei.
I haven't started ones for the other titles yet as there is a lack of suitable artwork.
BLACKANGEL32076
April 21st, 2004, 04:15 PM
Sorry bro, I don't know how I missed it? BTW, there are only FOUR volumes of Haibane Renmei?
ladystarlight
April 23rd, 2004, 03:46 PM
i would like to see better final fantasy: unlimited series box http://img20.photobucket.com/albums/v59/starkingdom/smiles/hatena-worried.gif
pinoy
April 28th, 2004, 11:43 AM
Does SonRyu own a printing press?
Banchan
April 28th, 2004, 12:47 PM
Does SonRyu own a printing press?
No. He just designs what images go on each side of the boxes, but Paul does some of the anime ones himself as well. Paul is the one who makes the boxes using some kind of laser inscription thingamahojer.
Jinpun
April 28th, 2004, 04:24 PM
No. He just designs what images go on each side of the boxes, but Paul does some of the anime ones himself as well. Paul is the one who makes the boxes using some kind of laser inscription thingamahojer.
No no, not laser inscription thingamohojer...magic. Yes thats right, magic.
SonRyu
April 28th, 2004, 04:44 PM
Does SonRyu own a printing press?
SonRyu does not, but Paul Champagne does :D
SonRyu
April 28th, 2004, 08:07 PM
While I'm here, I've added a preview for my Slayers Movie/OVA DVD Box design, see it here (http://www.sonryu.homestead.com/files/dvd_slayersmovie.jpg)
Chrono
April 28th, 2004, 08:19 PM
I know it's kind of early (ok, really early), but is there gonna be a new EVA box made for the platinum releases since its only gonna be 7 dvds long?
sys2021
April 28th, 2004, 08:38 PM
I know it's kind of early (ok, really early), but is there gonna be a new EVA box made for the platinum releases since its only gonna be 7 dvds long?
If Paul made a box for Eva platinum wouldn't he have to get ADV's approval like his other ADV boxes? I recall those boxes being extremely limited in number, as well... I don't think it's very likely a new one would be made. Plus I'm pretty sure the existing Eva box can hold the DVDs w/ the slipcases.
Heat Guy J
April 29th, 2004, 05:18 PM
Sorry if this has been asked already, but I'm wondering if there are any plans for a Magical shopping arcade abenobashi box. I really don't like the ADV box :$%&#!:
SonRyu
May 2nd, 2004, 06:08 PM
Sorry if this has been asked already, but I'm wondering if there are any plans for a Magical shopping arcade abenobashi box. I really don't like the ADV box :$%&#!:There are lots of plans, but what gets done is a totally different matter. I'm finding it increasingly difficult to get good pics for boxes I want to make...
Ollin
May 2nd, 2004, 06:12 PM
I have the R2 box for Abenobashi. Great looking box I might add.
http://www.dvdprofiler.com/cgi-bin/data/myprofiler/images/988003948382.4f.jpg
http://www.dvdprofiler.com/cgi-bin/data/myprofiler/images/988003948382.4b.jpg
Heat Guy J
May 2nd, 2004, 06:40 PM
Oh sure, rub it in why don't ya ;)
It does look great though!
sys2021
May 2nd, 2004, 06:47 PM
I have the R2 box for Abenobashi. Great looking box I might add.
I don't like that box art. I remember looking on CD Japan to see the R2 version of the Abenobashi box, and was severely disappointed. Despite the fact that the ADV box is flimsy, I almost prefer that art to its R2 counterpart. Can't judge the spine, though... the ADV one is bad.
As for the R2 artwork... the side with the guy on it is so bad.... don't even get me started. It almost makes me laugh, but then I realize that's the "official artwork" and I just cringe. It could be the picture quality, but somehow I doubt it. I'd like to see Paul or SonRyu pull off a better design.
Oh yes... and I want to see an Azumanga Daioh box. I know Paul will probably need to get ADV's approval and it'll probably only be offered through Right Stuf... but I want to see one be made. I'd like to see a RahXephon box before that though, of course.
SonRyu
May 8th, 2004, 02:32 PM
For those that have been wondering, I haven't yet attempted a box for the Tenchi Movies primarily because there just isn't any suitable/appropriate "movie" images to use. I've decided to just go ahead and start a 'generic' Tenchi box for the movies (regular Tenchi and co type pics). This will be for 4 dvd's (3 Movies and Mihoshi Special). This (http://www.sonryudesigns.com/files/dvd_tenchimovie.jpg) is what it looks like so far. Still with the wood design, but not as dominant, since the images have bg's (if you don't like the wood, take it up with the House of Jurai :P).
Now, as for Shin .. er... Tenchi in Tokyo... that's another matter. I haven't been able to get any good Tokyo pics to use at all (I have two artbooks but there isn't much artwork in them :(). So this one will be a while in the least...
sys2021
May 11th, 2004, 10:02 AM
For those that have been wondering, I haven't yet attempted a box for the Tenchi Movies primarily because there just isn't any suitable/appropriate "movie" images to use. I've decided to just go ahead and start a 'generic' Tenchi box for the movies (regular Tenchi and co type pics). This will be for 4 dvd's (3 Movies and Mihoshi Special). This (http://www.sonryudesigns.com/files/dvd_tenchimovie.jpg) is what it looks like so far. Still with the wood design, but not as dominant, since the images have bg's (if you don't like the wood, take it up with the House of Jurai :P).
Looks good. I like that a lot more than the OVA box you made... the wood isn't as prominent this time. I own the "ultimate edition" that Pioneer released, I might rebuy the OVA in the keepcases, but I'm not sure. The wood looks kind of cheesy IMO on the first box.
RahXephon box.... RahXephon box..... :-" Supposedly an LE edition being released, I take it you're waiting for more info on that before desiging a box? Or was it that you don't have the illustration collection yet... I forget lol
SonRyu
May 11th, 2004, 06:27 PM
I have the Pioneer 'Ultimate Collection' for the Tenchi OVA's as well, but I got the individual OVA dvd's too so I could get the medallion's they contained :)
I can't believe you said the wood looks cheesy... I'm telling the Jurai Family! lol
I don't want to answer any more RahXephon questions.... :P I have not yet bought the artbook, and I want to know how the movie is packaged first. For all I know, the images in the artbook aren't even suitable for use... so it'd be one heck of a let down if I can't even design the box ;)
SonRyu
May 16th, 2004, 05:51 PM
I don't know this for a fact, but it's quite possible that there won't be any more Official PC boxes for ADV titles..... ADV is very stingy when it comes to what artwork you can use on the boxes, so it's hard to deal with them. I don't think they're going with Paul's Noir design, the next two titles he was scheduled to design got cancelled (these were actually high interest titles; this means however that I can do my own custom designs now), and then ADV decides they want a metal box for FMP instead, but the only artwork they will allow Paul to use is the practically same that's found on their own box... so I think Paul turned that one down (and ADV didn't like my FMP box apparently)....
sys2021
May 16th, 2004, 09:07 PM
So... will you or Paul be able to design any boxes for ADV titles in the future? I certainly hope so... I don't care if they're official or not, like your FMP box.
Depression
May 16th, 2004, 09:50 PM
For all I know, the images in the artbook aren't even suitable for use... so it'd be one heck of a let down if I can't even design the box ;)
More than enough suitable pieces in that book to make a beautiful box ;)
sys2021
May 23rd, 2004, 08:16 PM
You know... it'd be nice if you could design a Last Exile box of your own, SonRyu... I'm not a big fan of Paul's design and would like to see a nice metal box for that series. Both of you designed Cowboy Bebop boxes, so I don't see what would really prevent you from making one. Personally I think a more simplistic design for the box would be good, even if you just went with a few black+white designs (black and the metal box showing through) with some color here and there, it would be nice.
SonRyu
May 23rd, 2004, 08:38 PM
The reason why I made some of my own designs for box titles that Paul already made was because his were etched black, and I wanted to make color versions. This was actually a good move for the business since fewer people order the etched black boxes nowadays. I was planning on designing a Last Exile box of my own once I had seen the entire series, but Paul did beat me to it, and I will not be doing my own.
SonRyu
June 2nd, 2004, 07:43 PM
Here's (http://www.sonryudesigns.com/files/dvd_nadesico.jpg) a preview of my Nadesico design so far. I am designing this to hold 7 dvd's (tv 1-6 + movie). Notice how I snuck in Gekiganger :)
Jinpun
June 3rd, 2004, 11:57 AM
Here's (http://www.sonryudesigns.com/files/dvd_nadesico.jpg) a preview of my Nadesico design so far. I am designing this to hold 7 dvd's (tv 1-6 + movie). Notice how I snuck in Gekiganger :)
Hey that looks great, now all I have to do is buy Nadesico.
On another note, my Paul Champagne Eva box came in yesterday!!! Woot, I found it on eBay and it's in great condition, allthough I don't want to reveal how much i paid for it :unsure: ^_^...
Stranger
June 3rd, 2004, 12:05 PM
Hey that looks great, now all I have to do is uy Nadesico.
On another note, my Paul Champagne Eva box came in yesterday!!! Woot, I found it on eBay and it's in great condition, allthough I don't want to reveal how much i paid for it :unsure: ^_^...
RightStuf was just selling them, why didn't you just get it from them? $50
Jinpun
June 3rd, 2004, 12:12 PM
RightStuf was just selling them, why didn't you just get it from them? $50
Really?!? When??? Every time I have looked there they never had it, and since the first production was sold out I didn't think they would get anymore...
Stranger
June 3rd, 2004, 01:23 PM
Really?!? When??? Every time I have looked there they never had it, and since the first production was sold out I didn't think they would get anymore...
It could not have been more than a month ago that they were selling more at RightStuf. I think they're gone now. I was gonna get one but I don't really believe in spending $50 on something to HOLD my anime. Not really my thing.
Jinpun
June 3rd, 2004, 03:57 PM
I was gonna get one but I don't really believe in spending $50 on something to HOLD my anime. Not really my thing.
True, I wouldn't spend my money on anything other than Eva. Its only because I'm such a huge fan that I would spend my money on a box...
sys2021
June 3rd, 2004, 08:27 PM
Here's (http://www.sonryudesigns.com/files/dvd_nadesico.jpg) a preview of my Nadesico design so far. I am designing this to hold 7 dvd's (tv 1-6 + movie). Notice how I snuck in Gekiganger :)
I like it, but I think that Yurika on the spine is a bit too... bold. Looks like I'll have to toss my brick and try to get some covers for the series...
SonRyu
June 8th, 2004, 05:43 PM
Here's (http://www.sonryu.homestead.com/files/dvd_nadesico.jpg) my finished preview of the Nadesico design; small changes made.
SonRyu
June 11th, 2004, 09:15 PM
Ok, now for the tricky one.... RahXephon. I've had to wait on doing this design for several reasons, mainly, it was the if/when concerning the movie's coming over. Yada yada, fast forward to today. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm not to thrilled with this "new RahXephon box" ADV is making; obviously, they are trying to correct the "mistake that was the 1st box". The only reason _I'm_ getting the new box is because I want the book that it comes with; the box itself however, I could care less about (especially if it really looks like the pic AN has). Anywho, I'm still designing my own, though I don't know who's still interested in lieu of ADV's 2nd box (and that used to be a TON of people; this was one of my most heavily requested boxes).
The following is an advance preview of what I'm doing so far for a design (and for all those that told me I had to put the "Quon & egg" pic on it, well, here ya go ;)) I still can't finalize this til I know how the movie is packaged (ie standard amaray or something thicker), but basically, this is it (so far). Changes can still (and probably will) be made. Preview (http://www.sonryudesigns.com/files/dvd_rahxephon.jpg)
sys2021
June 11th, 2004, 09:35 PM
Hmmm... I was hoping you might go a different direction with the box, Nick. I was anticipating something that would possibly make use of the wonderful artwork RahXephon has, like the R2 covers. If the box were more my style, I'd go for it, but I'm already getting ADV's box, which is more my type.
SonRyu
June 12th, 2004, 11:48 AM
Well, like I said, it's still a work-in-progress. I have to design something that I fell is appropriate AND have the most appeal. I was also playing around with this (http://www.sonryudesigns.com/files/dvd_rahxephon1.jpg) design (one side changed), which I might stick with. I noticed that I had Quon on 3 sides, and I didn't need her all over the box like that. At least this way, I get a painted image, and Reika in her pose.
I can't help but notice a lack of responses lately. Where'd all the regulars go? :'( Little to no comments or replies tells me that no one is interested anymore. While in no way will this effect my designs (I'm not going to stop just because no one replies), getting replies DOES help my morale ;)
TK
June 12th, 2004, 12:29 PM
YAY!! A RahXephon box finally!! But with the Movie + Box coming out which to get? :crybaby:
I'll prolly buy the Paul Champagne box anyway just for the sake of having all the RahXephon boxes plus it'd be my first PC box ^_^
Anyway back to the design, it looks pretty cool so far but not sounding to horrible Sonryu it might need a bit more work if its gonna be as good as the design of the new ADV box and i think i agree with sys2021 id like to see a design more along the lines of the R2 artwork but i understand how how much difficulty u been having getting hold of decent pictures for the RahXephon design.
But i still really like the design you got at the minute especially the new pic on the right side with Ayato :)
sys2021
June 12th, 2004, 05:27 PM
I enjoy the new side of the box, Sonryu. I understand you have to find the most appealing design.. I think the spine image sort of goes well with ADV's cover art. However, I ditched ADV's cover art in favor of the R2 covers, and am currently using those instead, so I think that ADV's box would look much nicer with the set of covers I have now. I don't like the whole "wailing Ayato" on the side to the right of the spine, though, it's kind of.... weird.
SonRyu
June 15th, 2004, 04:01 PM
Ya know, ADV's new box isn't really a "good design"... they just took three pics and slapped 'em edge-to-edge; I could have done that :P The reason they used those 3 pics is probably because that's all that was available to them. My importing an artbook lets me have more pics available to me than ADV has when they license a title :lol:
Incidently, I saw a pic of the new Rahxephon book somewhere (I believe it is more of an info book than artbook; it's NOT the Bible, Sketches, or Illustration books), and I recall it having a great cover image, that was a good summary of the show. If I can get ahold of that pic so I can attempt to use it on the spine of my box, I'll be more than willing to get rid of the "wailing" image and put another painted one. However, I don't plan on buying that book just for the cover image.... don't suppose anyone out there has picked it up and can send me a scan? ;)
Anywho, as for the update:
Looks like Paul is designing some (3 I think) Studio Ghibli boxes, each with a theme. The first one he has done is the Totoro (http://www.sonryu.homestead.com/files/dvd_GhibliTotoro.jpg) theme. He says these are for 9 dvd's.
EDIT: Added his other 2 versions: Nausicaa (http://www.sonryu.homestead.com/files/dvd_MiyazakiNausicaa.jpg) and Spirited Away (http://www.sonryu.homestead.com/files/dvd_GhibliSpiritedAway.jpg)
SonRyu
June 19th, 2004, 10:40 AM
Here's a custom design for Tekkaman Blade (http://www.sonryu.homestead.com/files/dvd_tekkamanblade.jpg). This is made to hold 8 dvd's. I don't know how many people can use this, but if you like it, feel free to order it ;)
Rosemary
June 19th, 2004, 11:07 AM
I'm a tad late, but my comment on the RahXephon box, I loooove it *_* (I'm not sure which of the two version you posted I like more, both are nice) and to go against everyone else so far, lol, I actually like that you're going this way with it, since it makes it quite different than the ADV box, which is a good thing I think, I don't want two looking exactly the same. I'd definatel buy your box as well if you make one of those two :wub:
< complete RahX fangirl and wants your pretty box to go with new pretty ADV box <3 (this reminds me, I want to get your Kenshin boxes, I must do that once I start teaching in September <3)
Edit: After staring at them for awhile, I like the one you're leaning towards more (the second one) the one side you changed is gorgeous ^_^
Banchan
June 19th, 2004, 05:00 PM
And now that Nadesico is being released in 3 2-disk sets, will you design a Nadesico 3 and/or 3 + 1 box?
Kureboy99
June 19th, 2004, 05:15 PM
Paul and his partner make great cases, the Bebop, Chobits and Bubblegum Crisis 2032 cases are a very nice addition to my anime shelf ;)
sys2021
June 19th, 2004, 05:18 PM
And now that Nadesico is being released in 3 2-disk sets, will you design a Nadesico 3 and/or 3 + 1 box?
I doubt Nick would do so, although I wouldn't mind seeing it... the disc sets are supposed to be part of the "anime essentials" line, so my guess is they'll have that fugly banner. You can always print out the original covers or transfer them if you already have them. I think all that's new is no overlays and 5.1 english audio...
SonRyu
June 19th, 2004, 08:11 PM
I have absolutely no intention of designing boxes/variants to accommadate the brick releases of any title, unless that's how they were originally packaged :-"
SonRyu
June 22nd, 2004, 04:46 PM
I think I'm going to change the spine of the RahX box to this (http://www.sonryudesigns.com/files/dvd_rahxspine.jpg). I find this to be more "encompassing" :)
Ollin
June 22nd, 2004, 05:17 PM
Having RahXephon on the spine makes Ollin cry. :rolleyes:
The image is nice but would prefer characters instead of mech since that is what RahXephon is really about.
TK
June 23rd, 2004, 10:48 AM
The image is nice but would prefer characters instead of mech since that is what RahXephon is really about.
Yep Yep i agree with Ollin a character spine would definately be cool but id definately like the new RahXephon spine pic than any of the other ones
SonRyu
June 27th, 2004, 04:11 PM
This (http://www.sonryu.homestead.com/files/dvd_rahxephon.jpg) is my final RahXephon design. Sorry that I can't take all of your personal preferences into account, but that would give me like 10 different designs -_-;
Dragon
June 27th, 2004, 04:30 PM
thats really cool son! ^^ i plan on starting to collect RahXephon and i dont have the money atm to order the move+box and id be too tempted to watch the movie (havent seen the seris yet) so i'll probably end up buying the normal dvds and your box ^_^
!n|=3c+iOn
June 28th, 2004, 02:00 AM
This (http://www.sonryu.homestead.com/files/dvd_rahxephon.jpg) is my final RahXephon design. Sorry that I can't take all of your personal preferences into account, but that would give me like 10 different designs -_-;
looks great...
will that also hold the movie?
SonRyu
June 28th, 2004, 05:34 AM
looks great...
will that also hold the movie?Yes, I designed it to hold 8 dvd's :)
Kureboy99
June 28th, 2004, 07:32 AM
Can you design it for 7 as a special order? Just wondering...
TK
June 28th, 2004, 09:30 AM
Thats definately my favourite box design out of the ones you posted SonRyu.
I dunno whether im gonna buy it though with the Movie box coming but i probably will just for the collectors value and of course when i have the money :lol:
SonRyu
June 28th, 2004, 03:47 PM
Can you design it for 7 as a special order? Just wondering... No plans for any size variants, as it causes to much confusion & hassles apparently... not getting the movie?
Jinpun
June 28th, 2004, 09:36 PM
Man that looks great! Well I guess I have to get Rahxephon finally. I'm glad it holds the movie too ^_^.
Blue Pen
June 29th, 2004, 06:43 PM
Ever thought about designing boxes before the release date or have plan before the release date so people wouldnt waste there money on buying two boxes. I guess the companies would allow that.
SonRyu
June 29th, 2004, 08:43 PM
Thought about it, yes. Done it, yes. Good idea, no. The reason for designing the boxes after the release is to know the exact size and dvd count of the title. Good example is Full Metal Panic. I loved the series when I watched it fansubbed, so as soon as I heard it was licensed and was scheduled to be 6 dvd's, I started making a box for it. Either the 6 dvd count posted originally (on AoD) was an error, or ADV changed the count at some point, but FMP became 7 dvd's, and all of a sudden my box was sized incorrectly. Sucked for Paul, as some people requested replacements, sucked for me since I had to adjust the design (which isn't easy to do). Some dvd's come in thicker cases too (ie Saikano), so I have to wait and see how the title is being packaged. Since we aren't actually working for or with any company, we aren't privy to this info before hand.
SonRyu
July 11th, 2004, 10:00 AM
Here's (http://www.sonryudesigns.com/files/dvd_flcltemp.jpg) a preview of my FLCL design. I originally didn't want to go with a design so straight forward, but the images available don't lend themselves to much else unfortunately. Unless I get some radical feedback soon, this will probably be the final design.
TK
July 11th, 2004, 11:47 AM
wow i really like the box design SonRyu, definately a pleasant alterative compared to the chaotic official artbox that was released.
I think the stragiht forward design is pretty cool
SDF/Draven
July 11th, 2004, 02:05 PM
I like how you have the main chick overlaping her guitar onto the side panel from the spine. Is there a way you could do that vice versa for the side panels as well? Like having that robot guys hands overlap onto the spine from both sides? It just seems kinda one sided for the spine to have a minor overlap and then the side panels only have the robots head stick out from the images. And if that somehow works, maybe you could have the 'FLCL' logo overlap. Not so much a total wrap around, but like half the beginning 'F' and half the ending 'L' showing up on the side panels.
But thats just my 2 cents about it. Otherwise, cool job.
SonRyu
July 12th, 2004, 06:31 PM
Here's (http://www.sonryu.homestead.com/files/dvd_flcl.jpg) the final preview of the FLCL design. It's basically the same, except I made the adjustments so that Kanchi's (the robot) fingers overlap the borders as well.
sys2021
July 12th, 2004, 06:35 PM
Here's (http://www.sonryu.homestead.com/files/dvd_flcl.jpg) the final preview of the FLCL design. It's basically the same, except I made the adjustments so that Kanchi's (the robot) fingers overlap the borders as well.
Not bad. I may pick it up even though I have the vol. 3+box already... might double dip and pick up vol. 1-3 just to keep in that box. Could be better, but still, not too bad. Considering it's one of my favorite series I may just have to pick it up, but not before I pick up the first press R2s and maybe the R4.
SonRyu
July 15th, 2004, 08:11 PM
Here's (http://www.sonryu.homestead.com/files/dvd_aiyoriaoshi.jpg) my newest design, this is for Ai Yori Aoshi (hold's 8 dvd's).
sys2021
July 15th, 2004, 08:14 PM
Here's (http://www.sonryu.homestead.com/files/dvd_aiyoriaoshi.jpg) my newest design, this is for Ai Yori Aoshi (hold's 8 dvd's).
Didn't know you had this one in the works. Very nice. Argh, don't make me choose between my Pioneer/Geneon boxes and this metal box, SonRyu... like the FLCL box I'm tempted to double dip just because I don't want to be stuck with 2 boxes I won't use.... ah, damn it! Sooooooo tempting! It looks great though btw!
Blue Pen
July 16th, 2004, 02:05 AM
I might pick up the Ai Yori Aoshi artbox seeing that the 1st series artbox isnt around anymore.
TK
July 16th, 2004, 11:44 AM
Im definately getting that box!!! Especially when i missed out on the box for the 1st series. Is it avaliable to order yet or are you still in the designing stages?
SonRyu
July 16th, 2004, 04:31 PM
The Ai Yori Aoshi box is done, feel free to email orders to Paul :)
Banchan
August 10th, 2004, 07:44 AM
Time to ressurect this thread. SonRyu, any possibility of a 12 volume Scrapped Princess box for the R2s? I'm thinking no since there wouldn't be very high sales, but is there any chance at all?
DTangent
August 10th, 2004, 01:26 PM
Time to ressurect this thread. SonRyu, any possibility of a 12 volume Scrapped Princess box for the R2s? I'm thinking no since there wouldn't be very high sales, but is there any chance at all?
Just to let you know, the rising-storm.net domain no longer works for ListerX. We just use ListerX.com, ListerX.net, and ListerX.org. I'm telling ya because your sig still has rising-storm :)
SonRyu
August 11th, 2004, 05:47 AM
I have to find Scrapped Princess artwork to use before I think about designing ANY Box for it.... I've been looking, but haven't seen much. The one book I've seen doesn't seem to even have that many pics to use :(
Kevin
August 11th, 2004, 07:18 AM
How about a box for Miami Guns?
Sharp-kun
August 11th, 2004, 07:26 AM
How about a box for Miami Guns?
Should I take that as a hint that AN won't be providing one?
Kevin
August 11th, 2004, 07:37 AM
Should I take that as a hint that AN won't be providing one?
Not at all, that is something that I know nothing about. I like the metal cases quite alot, that is the reason for my posting. I would love a metal box for Risky/Safety too.
Sharp-kun
August 11th, 2004, 07:42 AM
Not at all, that is something that I know nothing about. I like the metal cases quite alot, that is the reason for my posting. I would love a metal box for Risky/Safety too.
Just checking :)
I would like to have a metal box for Miami Guns :)
Banchan
August 11th, 2004, 10:07 AM
John said at the panel at Otakon that if sales are good enough, there will be a box set in the future as well as a bx sold seperatly for the people who already have all the DVDs.
SonRyu
August 11th, 2004, 04:44 PM
Well, I had spoken to Gene Field of AN back when Risky Safety was coming out, and asked about designing a custom PC box for AN to offer exclusively. While there WAS interest, Gene basically said that they need the sales to support it. Risky Safety had to have enough sales to warrant AN comissioning a PC box. In respect for AN and the AN community, I have not taken it upon myself to design a RS box without their consent (I'd hate to get banned from AN and it's forums since this is my favorite anime related retail/community site; aside from the fact that AN is probably the only source of RS images to use :P). I would think that Miama Guns would also fall under these same circumstances. I can touch base with Gene again and ask about MG, but I'd probably get the same response right now.
Carl
August 11th, 2004, 07:06 PM
Is there any chance of a Macross Zero box being made for those of us getting the show on R2?
SonRyu
August 11th, 2004, 08:40 PM
I wasn't planning on doing any Macross boxes, any region, since Paul has associates that have designed their own (http://www.designpaulchampagne.com/macross.html).
TK
August 22nd, 2004, 07:11 PM
I just had to dig this thread up again to alert all UK forum members that Paul Champagne boxes will soon be avaliable to buy in the UK.
City Cyber Anime (http://www.citycyberanime.com/) have acquired the rights from Paul Champagne to distribute his boxes in the UK and they will be the only company allowed to do so.
Prices for the boxes at this time are still unknown and what selection of boxes are up for grabs is also underwraps but be sure to check it out when there up for sale.
SonRyu
October 6th, 2004, 04:06 PM
Today (Oct 6), I received a legal notice from an Anti-Piracy Agent at ADV Films. In a nutshell, they want me to take down my ADV designs or face legal consequences. What I'm going to do for now is remove all indications that they are for sale. They can't tell me to remove my wallpapers, so if I just have designs up that are NOT labelled as 'for sale', it shouldn't be a problem..... right?
I do believe that the designs themselves, being my intellectual property, are protected under the Fair Use Rule of the United States Copyright Act of 1976.
Jinpun
October 6th, 2004, 04:27 PM
Thats bad to hear. Which boxes exactly is ADV having an issue with? That is, how many and which boxes are ADV titles?
Carl
October 6th, 2004, 04:41 PM
Today (Oct 6), I received a legal notice from an Anti-Piracy Agent at ADV Films. In a nutshell, they want me to take down my ADV designs or face legal consequences.
Bloody ADV...
It seems they hate us box fans with a vengence...
yangster
October 6th, 2004, 05:16 PM
That sucks. Those boxes really good too. O well. I wish I had gotten into to anime last year so I could order some of those boxes from ADV but I guess it's too late now.
SDF/Draven
October 6th, 2004, 05:28 PM
First it was Bandai with Cowboy Bebop and now its ADV and their stuff.
Meh, whatever. I always thought Paul should have let people design their own boxes for their series and not advertise one whole group design for sale. Maybe he'll start swinging that way soon now and I can get my own designed Kenshin boxes :naughty:
yangster
October 8th, 2004, 01:30 PM
First it was Bandai with Cowboy Bebop and now its ADV and their stuff.
Meh, whatever. I always thought Paul should have let people design their own boxes for their series and not advertise one whole group design for sale. Maybe he'll start swinging that way soon now and I can get my own designed Kenshin boxes :naughty:
I found a site where you can make your own box. If you want the site then just ask me.
SonRyu
October 8th, 2004, 04:50 PM
The thing that irks me is the principal of the thing, not the legality. Sure sure, we're not getting permission to use the images, HOWEVER, the email stated in several different ways that we are or could be hurting ADVs sales. It is in THAT that I am in total disagreement. I'll tell you why.
1. If you buy a PC box, you must already have the individual dvds. No lost sale there; you bought their product already.
2. If they come out with a complete box set later on, but you already HAVE the invididual dvds, then you don't need to buy their box set at all. No lost sale there, you already own their product in one form.
3. If they also offer the cardboard box by itself in case you already HAVE the individual dvds, well, you can buy that IF YOU ARE AWARE OF IT; not everyone is website savvy and knows about it (especially when there are really only 3 sites that make mention; those being AnimeonDVD, RightStuf's, and ADV's). Even if you ARE aware of it, that doesn't mean you want to buy it (ugly design etc). Buying the PC box instead is not hurting a sale that was _lost anyway_.
4. If you DO buy their box/boxset, and then in addition get a PC box, well, there's no lost sale in that either, you already bought their product.
5. If they come out with a brick set instead of a box set, but you already have the individual dvds, then you don't _need_ to buy it anyway. There's no lost sale there either; you already have one form of their product. In this case, buying a PC box for your individual dvds is fine because they DON'T have their own box to sell; thus they aren't losing a sale.
6. If you import R2's dvds and don't really buy R1's at all, but want PC boxes anyway, then there's no lost sale there either; you're not buying their product anyway.
7. If you buy PC boxes purely as a collector's item, then they aren't losing a sale.
Now, the email also made mention that people are mistaking PC boxes for official boxes.... um... I have never been aware of such a thing. Surely, neither my site or Paul's could be mistaken for an official licensing company's site. Surely, with the words "CUSTOM DESIGNS" all over the place, no one could mistake PC boxes for official product.
Well, out of the 40-50 someodd designs I've done so far, only 10 were for ADV titles, and only 4 of _those_ could possibly affect their sales; those being Najica, Excel Saga, FMP, & Rahxephon (because they DO have boxes/boxsets for these titles). The other 6 safely fall under my reasons above, because ADV doesn't HAVE boxes/boxsets for them (either bricks or no collection at all yet) :P
The only reason they are getting on my case is because they are jealous. For one, some ADV boxes are just plain fugly (Excel Saga), ill-designed (Kaleidostar), or bad quality (Rahxephon TV). Two, even if they license a title and release it, they don't seem to have access to a lot of artwork. My searching online or buying my own artbook/shitajiki to get images from is a larger source than they seem to have access to.
Bleh, whatever, I'll keep doing what I do. For now, ADV designs are off the site. I can probably put them back up as 'intellectual property' (just like my walls) as long as I don't mention that they are for sale.
Jinpun
October 8th, 2004, 05:51 PM
So...say if I want a Rahxephon box right now...could I get it???
Carl
October 8th, 2004, 06:18 PM
It's not like ADV make any money off their properly made boxes anyway...
yangster
October 8th, 2004, 06:29 PM
You should mention all that you said and send it to ADV and see what they think about it or you can ask them if there hiring and need someone who can make good boxes. :)
Carl
October 8th, 2004, 06:37 PM
You should mention all that you said and send it to ADV and see what they think about it or you can ask them if there hiring and need someone who can make good boxes. :)
I can't imagine that they'd react very well if he did that...
He might be able to reason with one of the more sensible staff members at ADV, but he almost certainly woun't be able to do it with a company that has been hired soley for the purpose of haranguing people like Nick.
It's a shame, really. They should be spending their time on bootleggers rather than soft targets that have no negative affect on their bottom line...
SDF/Draven
October 8th, 2004, 08:56 PM
I found a site where you can make your own box. If you want the site then just ask me.
Id very much be interested in seeing what that sites all about. Thanks
And for all the legality stuff, someone once asked about it all in a seperate thread from this ones. Here what I had to say in that thread, slightly edited for more comprehension:
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I’ve actually taken classes on copyrighting and what not. For every exception you find in a law, there’s always another one that challenges it. For instance, you have something called "Fair use" which allows you to duplicate anything you have to use in your own home. Like if you bought a dvd but 3 of the 4 televisions in your home only plays vhs. You are allowed to convert that dvd to vhs to watch the film on those vhs tvs. But then there’s another contradicting law which states any reproduction of a copyrighted item into another format must be sanctioned by the copyright holders.
So, with about 100 of these examples I basically summarized it all into 1 fact. As long as you are not denying the original copyright owners profits, it’s legal.
-If there’s a box for Escaflowne still available for sale and you buy the Champagne version, you are denying the original owners profits. If you buy the original box from the owners and then Champagnes, then you’re cool. No one lost their rightful profit for a similar item.
-If there was a box for sale in limited quantity, like the Bebop box, and you buy Pauls, you’re ok. The alotment of the original box was made and sold out. Its not available anymore and all profits have been made for the original copyright owners.
-If you have a Champagne box before the official box is released, you’re ok. But when that official version is released, you’re denying the profits of a box sale from the owners because you have a now “bootleg” version.
Actually, the biggest trick with these boxes is the images themselves. You are in essence buying the box for its images. And though they may be altered for a design effect (like combinging two images into one), you still don’t own that original image that was used to make it. A lot of them come from art books and magazines, so it’s a touchy subject. Youre denying the sale profits of those books by purchasing an image you don’t own from someone else. You mostly dont get hindered down with this fact because books and magazines don't produce the same ammount of money as dvds. Companies always try to use dvd sales as a figure when saying they're losing massive ammounts of money because of bootlegged boxes or what have you.
________________________________________ _________________________
Hell, I still plan on buying the Rahxephon box as well as upgrading some of my older, non-colored boxes from back in the day with Paul. I feel no guilt because Im paying him for the materials and his own labor to make these boxes as I feel I own enough of the series to justify its images being on a couple pieces of metal shaped as box. Just find your own reasons and be happy with them if you're worried.
Carl
October 8th, 2004, 09:04 PM
Unfortunatly, once you sell something to someone else it falls outside the bounds of any fair use clauses.
Velmeran
October 8th, 2004, 09:10 PM
Unfortunatly, once you sell something to someone else it falls outside the bounds of any fair use clauses.
Who's to say Paul's actually selling these boxes? The way I see it, I'm giving Paul enough money to cover the materials used to make the box, as well as moeny to cover the shipping of the box back to me.
People can aruge forever on this subject as really it can become a hazyline.
IMO, using the thought process I do, it's 100% legal for Paul. I mean if there are people who can scalp NFL/NHL/MLB tickets on ebay and add in a "keychain" to offset the cost difference, how could what Paul be doing wrong?
Carl
October 8th, 2004, 09:12 PM
Who's to say Paul's actually selling these boxes? The way I see it, I'm giving Paul enough money to cover the materials used to make the box, as well as moeny to cover the shipping of the box back to me.
Unfortunatly, while common sence may agree with you, copywrite law does not...
SDF/Draven
October 8th, 2004, 09:14 PM
Unfortunatly, once you sell something to someone else it falls outside the bounds of any fair use clauses.
I understand. Thats why I tried to use it as an example in the context that you owned the images themselves already. Hell, I own anime magazines that have many of the same images used on the boxes. Whose to say that I dont own those images when compared to someone that may have an art book with them? Is somehow my magazine not "as official" as the art book? If not, then why cant I use those images on a box that Im paying someone to basically print and assemble for me?
Carl
October 8th, 2004, 09:21 PM
I understand. Thats why I tried to use it as an example in the context that you owned the images themselves already. Hell, I own anime magazines that have many of the same images used on the boxes. Whose to say that I dont own those images when compared to someone that may have an art book with them? Is somehow my magazine not "as official" as the art book?
If the magazine/artbook/whatever states that the images are copyright (as most anime magazines like Megami and NewType do), you cannot reuse the images without permission beyond the bounds of the fair use clauses in copyright legislation. If the images do not state copyright (and thus are public domain), you can reuse them as you deem fit.
Have a look at your artbooks and see if they state copyright ownership (if it's in Japanese it may require some careful searching to find out...)
I suspect most if not all magazines and artbooks do state copyright, though.
SDF/Draven
October 8th, 2004, 09:30 PM
And this is how the debate goes. Like stated earlier, for every statement you make or I make, theres a contradicting statement just waiting. Thats why all you can do is sum it all up in 1 phrase :
As long as you are not denying the original copyright owners profits, it’s legal.
Really, its just up to your own morals as to whether or not you agree with it all. If you think its stealing, bootlegging, whatever; then you're not going to agree with these boxes no matter what anyone else says. Just as I dont see these as bootlegs for my own reasons, I wont agree with anyone else that says otherwise.
Carl
October 8th, 2004, 09:33 PM
And this is how the debate goes. Like stated earlier, for every statement you make or I make, theres a contradicting statement just waiting. Thats why all you can do is sum it all up in 1 phrase :
As long as you are not denying the original copyright owners profits, it’s legal.
Sorry, but that is wrong.
Prehaps that's the way copyright law should be, but it certainly isn't the reality of the law.
Really, its just up to your own morals as to whether or not you agree with it all.
Morality and legality are sepperate issues entirely...
SDF/Draven
October 8th, 2004, 09:46 PM
Sorry, but that is wrong.
Prehaps that's the way copyright law should be, but it certainly isn't the reality of the law.
Well, I've actually studied copyright laws in business classes for 3 years and that was the gist of it all in the end. If you can say you've done the same and learned otherwise, then more power to you. Otherwise, if you haven't dealt with copyright in either your busniess practices or schooling, then it's really your own inhibitions and morals thats acting as your deciding factor.
Morality and legality are sepperate issues entirely...
You're absolutely correct. Its just when you're either assuming legality and/or are unsure about them when making these claims, then you definately are mixing the two. I know my laws because Ive studied them, so I'm perfectly happy and content with my decisions. I know I haven't denied profits to any company for any one of their products with what I've done/supported. If I didnt think that I was soley buying materials and labor from Paul Champagne, then I might have a hang up with him. But I own the images he sells anyways and I'm perfectly happy. I can only hope others do as well, but its not my problem if they get caught for buying images without owning them yet. Honestly, its all a company can do to get someone in trouble if they haven't sold a box on their own accord already.
And with that, Ive said all I can say.
SonRyu
October 8th, 2004, 10:08 PM
Wow.
Well, I can say this: I don't manufacture these. I don't sell these. I just make designs in my computer like I do wallpapers. Sure, I send the designs to Paul, and he takes it from there. But I don't make a profit on these at all. This is not a job for me, it's a hobby. I don't have work hours, and I don't make wage. That being the case, quite honestly, ADV's got nothing on me at all.
As far as Paul is concerned, sure, this is business, but it's not his lively hood. I honestly don't know what the cost of production is on these, but I'm sure it's quite high; considering what he uses, the maintanence involved, and the shipping expense.
The images I use mostly come from imported items, which I think might be outside ADV's jurisdiction. They may own the rights to a title, but not ALL of the merchandise, and certainly not something I got from Japan itself. I know full well that I'm ok as far as the Fair Trade Rules go.
But I digress... all designs are still available, even if they are not on the site :)
Speaking of designs, my next one coming up is for 'Blue Sub no. 6' (NOT an ADV title :P)
Carl
October 9th, 2004, 12:29 AM
Well, I've actually studied copyright laws in business classes for 3 years and that was the gist of it all in the end. If you can say you've done the same and learned otherwise, then more power to you.
I'm a poltical science student, so I do have a decent level of knowledge in regards to legislation. I don't claim to be an expert in regards to it's implementation by the courts, but I know quite well the ways laws are set out and why in the legislative and bureaucratic stages.
I've seen plenty of cases where people sued other people desipte the fact that the person/group they are sueing are not in any way affecting their bottom line.
then it's really your own inhibitions and morals thats acting as your deciding factor.
I fail to grasp that jump in reasoning, I'm afraid.
How does my morality and/or inhibitions factor into this...?
You're absolutely correct. Its just when you're either assuming legality and/or are unsure about them when making these claims, then you definately are mixing the two.
1. I was not assuming anything.
2. Even if, for the sake of arguement, I was assuming this, that still does not offer any reason whatsoever to accept the premise that I was somehow getting morality mixed up in this. If there is a reason this should be the case, please enlighten me.
I know my laws because Ive studied them,
Likewise.
If you can find a line in legislation that unambiguously backs up your statements I'm happy to eat my words.
I know I haven't denied profits to any company for any one of their products with what I've done/supported.
Irrelevant.
If I didnt think that I was soley buying materials and labor from Paul Champagne, then I might have a hang up with him. But I own the images he sells anyways and I'm perfectly happy. I can only hope others do as well, but its not my problem if they get caught for buying images without owning them yet. Honestly, its all a company can do to get someone in trouble if they haven't sold a box on their own accord already.
If anyone seems to mixing the concepts of legality and morality, it wouldn't appear to be me...
SonRyu
October 9th, 2004, 09:17 AM
There are two versions for my Blue Sub No.6 design:
Mayumi Version (http://www.sonryu.homestead.com/files/dvd_bluesubv1Mayumi.jpg)
Hayami Version (http://www.sonryu.homestead.com/files/dvd_bluesubv2Hayami.jpg)
So yeah, I'm still designing, just not as frequently as I used to (I mention why on my news page [sep 15 update])
SDF/Draven
October 10th, 2004, 12:09 PM
Very nice! Though its a shame that you can only select between Mayumi or Hayami.
Heres a thought. Can you simply move the characters farther to the edges, then take either a solid line or a faded line and half the characters in the middle, putting them together side by side on the spine? Mayumi on the left and Hayami on the right?
Not to step on your toes, but heres a crappy mock-up of what Im talking about. You could size up the characters to be about as big as 2 dvds width or less
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/vash080/example1.jpg
yangster
October 10th, 2004, 06:11 PM
If you don't mind can you tell us what boxes your making now? I'm just curious.
SonRyu
October 10th, 2004, 08:23 PM
I was only going to have the Mayumi version originally, I wasn't even planning on having more than one version. The very nice young lady that sent me the scans though kinda mentioned that she'd like a Hayami version, so I made a second version for the ladies. I then thought about putting both on the spine together, but they just don't work well together.
I'm not working on any other designs at the moment; I don't think I have enough quality images for any title right now. If there's something you'd like to see me work on, fell free to mention it, and if you can help acquire pics, that's even better ;)
Carl
October 11th, 2004, 03:32 AM
I'm not working on any other designs at the moment; I don't think I have enough quality images for any title right now.
I can sympathize with your problem.
If there's something you'd like to see me work on, fell free to mention it, and if you can help acquire pics, that's even better ;)
That's interesting...
If I scan and send you lots of picks from my AIR artbooks, would a box be possible for that when the anime comes out in Japan next year? (I'm quite the AIR fanboy, you see ^_^)
Velmeran
October 11th, 2004, 09:32 AM
I've got some nice Chrno Crusade scans (thanks to Devil Inside mainly) I'd be willing to send you if it led to a box.
SonRyu
October 11th, 2004, 03:13 PM
I've got some nice Chrno Crusade scans (thanks to Devil Inside mainly) I'd be willing to send you if it led to a box.Oh no! CC is an ADV title! Can't do that! hehe, anyway, yeah, I've been collecting some nice scans, and I noticed that the dvd's themselves have reversible covers and nice insert images, so I think I'll end up with enough to work with once they are all out. But if not, I'll definitely keep you in mind, thanks ;)
SDF/Draven
October 12th, 2004, 03:40 PM
Heres just a general question.
I dont know how Paul makes these boxes, but I assume you give him images and he simply scans them onto a box from some computer assembly. If so, is it possible for you to revisit some of your designs and create more variants of them and simply have Paul store the extra images on his hard drive or something?? Id really like to see more than one option for a lot of boxes that have been designed with different/more characters and/or design patterns.
Velmeran
October 12th, 2004, 04:34 PM
Yeah, I'm a bit curious as to how Paul goes about making them. Perhaps SonRyu could help a little bit.
Also, if others designed a box, and were willing to give paul all the rights to the box, and were willing to pay to have the box produced, would he be willing to use their design?
SonRyu
October 12th, 2004, 08:42 PM
I don't know the exact process Paul uses when making the boxes; I just send him the designs. All I know s that it involves a laser engraving machine.
While I DO keep all my box design work files, meaning I can make any adjustment at any time, we do not offer variants anymore. The reason is because when you allow for choices, you have problems. Such as: I make a box. People buy that box. I make a different version later. These people like this one better, and expect Paul to exchange the old for the new. Another good example, was that someone asked me to custom design a Samurai X box even after I had made my own design. He kept saying it was a simple re-design, but it ended up being a HUGE project because he couldn't make up his mind. It was WAY too much of a hastle. Best to just not offer the choice at all.
If you want to take a shot on making your own design for Paul to make, go right ahead (just don't ask me for help :P).
SDF/Draven
October 12th, 2004, 09:11 PM
Im sure you have more examples, but I'd hate to see that your generosity has been destroyed by a couple of idiots that didnt have the respect or the intelligence to know that you get what you pay for and this is all donated time on your part.
What sucks is that I designed my own Kenshin boxs' when you forst partnered with Paul and I got rejected before you designed your own :(
Hopefully some of us can come at you with an already designed case in mind for you to help us create and submit to Paul ;)
SonRyu
October 12th, 2004, 09:43 PM
What sucks is that I designed my own Kenshin boxs' when you forst partnered with Paul and I got rejected before you designed your own :(
Hopefully some of us can come at you with an already designed case in mind for you to help us create and submit to Paul ;)Yeah, Paul is actually very picky; sounds like he rejects a lot of ideas; makes me seem rather lucky :)
Some of my boxes came from others ideas actually. The person that asked me to do the Big O box actually sent me sketches for a design along with the necessary scans. The Tekkaman box was pretty much the same way; Jake sent me the scans and already had a plan, I just made it work.
Most of the time though, when someone supplies me with the scans, I ask for as much input from them as I can, even though I do the design myself. I ask them what works and what doesn't, what would they like to see/not see etc. If not for that kind of input, I NEVER would have finished the Slayers boxes. When I was making those, I didn't yet own the dvd's nor had I even seen Slayers at all (now of course, I have all of the dvd's and I've watched them all).
SDF/Draven
October 12th, 2004, 09:56 PM
The Tekkaman box was pretty much the same way; Jake sent me the scans and already had a plan, I just made it work.
;) Im still wantin to atleast donate some fund to your website for the help you gave me. Maybe next time I can get some images to you for another box I want I can donate something?
SonRyu
October 13th, 2004, 05:32 AM
;) Im still wantin to atleast donate some fund to your website for the help you gave me. Maybe next time I can get some images to you for another box I want I can donate something?Um.. well, images are good, I love scans and can always use them, even if not immediately. I've never received any donations for the site, but I never really expected them either. If you feel the need to do so, I won't stop you, but you really don't have to. It's the thought that counts ;) So, liking that Tekkaman box I hope?
SDF/Draven
October 13th, 2004, 07:59 AM
The Tekkaman box came out a little different than what I expected. The only real disappointment I have is that the images were scanned on too dark and can only be seen when direct light is hitting it. Thats why I havent jumped the gun in getting other color boxes from Paul. But as long as I was able to have it made in the first place, Im happy :) Maybe the boxes he has that dont have much black colors wont be so dark?
Its decent of you not to be expecting donations from people that you're helping in creating these designs. But anyone thats taken up your time and got their design made really should be considerate and help you out. Its the only right thing to really do.
SonRyu
October 13th, 2004, 03:04 PM
The Tekkaman box came out a little different than what I expected. The only real disappointment I have is that the images were scanned on too dark and can only be seen when direct light is hitting it. Thats why I havent jumped the gun in getting other color boxes from Paul. But as long as I was able to have it made in the first place, Im happy :) Maybe the boxes he has that dont have much black colors wont be so dark?
Its decent of you not to be expecting donations from people that you're helping in creating these designs. But anyone thats taken up your time and got their design made really should be considerate and help you out. Its the only right thing to really do.Well, I don't know too many people that want to donate their money nowadays, unless it's to support a bit torrent site :lol:
Even though the colors look perfectly fine to me in PhotoShop, it does seem like they print darker (probably because of the material). Paul actually lightens most of my designs; I wouldn't be surprised if the Tekkaman was already lightened as it is. There's no way for me to judge though, and I certainly wouldn't dilute my designs by lightening them first. Being a dark case though, yeah, I'd say it just looks darker because it's a dark design to begin with. Theboxes with lighter colors don't come out as dark in relation.
SonRyu
November 16th, 2004, 08:33 PM
I finally got myself a brand new computer, so I no longer have to fear for the safety of my psd files when a random reboot occurs (the motherboard on my old comp crapped out or something). With the problems out of the way, I can safely resume box designs (dependant on image availability of course) :)
TK
November 17th, 2004, 09:21 AM
Thats good news SonRyu i always like to see the designs you come up with.
What box designs you got lined up at the minute?
Velmeran
November 17th, 2004, 10:38 AM
I'd like to see SonRyu tackle a WHR box... however I've yet to find enough HQ pics to attempt it, so I'm sure SonRyu's in the same boat.
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