Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children Discussion

[XenoZero]

Please god i hope this is a game, but a dvd is welcome to but GOD BE A GAME! THis is just AWESOME!!!!!!



http://www.the-magicbox.com/game092503a.htm


prepared to be blown away.

[Seijuro_Hiko_IX]

I don't know what to say... Cloud and Sephiroth both look really weird.

[GimpyBoy]

Cloud looks horrible.

[sazae]

I don't know, Cloud looks like a cheap b-movie action star and Sephiroth looks well.....like a woman. How reliable is this source? Something about this just screams fake to me.

[XenoZero]

as far as i know, Magicbox is pretty reliable. at least from what i have been told by friends. Personly I think they look good. I think cloud look amazing with a more realistic look to him. Sure has hell looks better the Tidus in my oppinion.


::Edit::
http://www.rpgfan.com/news/pictures2003/ffvii-ac.jpg
its poping up in multipule places as well so i am thinking its pretty dead on. tho it seems like its only gonna be a movie or something. oh well. still will be cool.

[jedimaster2004]

Well i am dissapointed it isn't a game, at least it is something. All i can say is i can't wait, just hope the ending i envisioned is partly true.

[Seijuro_Hiko_IX]

I don't know about this... But I'm actually glad its not a game. I don't want anymore FFX-2's.

[Gosunkugi]

Well... I... uh.... CRAP! I can't reach ANY of those links! Stupid filter!

[GimpyBoy]

I suppose their movie department had nothing left to do after finishing Flight of the Osiris for the Animatrix... And this was their next project.

While I don't care much about it, I do think it's cool that people who wonder what happened at the end of FF7 can finally get an answer.

Maybe they'll even tie in the One Winged Devil / Angel theme seen in Kingdom Hearts.

[Usyagi]

So it's an epilogue? I guess that destroys the "they all died" theory of the ending. That sucks, because one of the things I liked about FFVII was how the ending was so open to interpretation. I would have preferred a gaiden, a prologue, or even a retelling rather than something like this.

[Galsia]

It may only be a film but if its very popoular it might trigger a remake of sequal. One can only hope. ^_^

I thing Cloud looks wicked.

[bleed for me]

straight to dvd computer animated sequal to FFVII

[sazae]

This topic is going on in the video game Final Fantasy forum. It doesn't look that good from what I've seen.

[Alundra]

Originally posted by ReikkiMerru
Looks like God has favored the FF7 fans.

:: Queue holy music ::

Did you read th article? It' states that it is unclear if it's even a game. Oh, and even though I dislike FFVII, I think Cloud looks pretty damn cool.

[Aelice]

http://www2u.biglobe.ne.jp/~nanko/images/6787.jpg

There's a piccie there for those who couldn't see the images on the page, like me. ^^; I think Cloud looks damn cool, too.

[Alundra]

Cloud's new face reminds me of Heathers face.

[Siendra]

Cloud and Sephy look like crap, but its better then nothing.

[Seijuro_Hiko_IX]

Yeah, I really don't like the way they look... Cloud looks like he got his hair done by Tidus, and Sephiroth looks like an old woman...

[James_xeno]

I wish FFVII would just DIE like it should.:dead:

[James_xeno]

Originally posted by Seijuro_Hiko_IX
Yeah, I really don't like the way they look... Cloud looks like he got his hair done by Tidus, and Sephiroth looks like an old woman... lol

[Alundra]

I like the realistic approach, nothing wrong with it. But, I guess that's because I am a fan of dark things in videogames, so I like Seph's new look.

[Aelice]

Originally posted by Alundra
I like the realistic approach, nothing wrong with it. But, I guess that's because I am a fan of dark things in videogames, so I like Seph's new look.

I totally agree with Alundra. They have a sexy, realistic, dark look. I couldn't imagine any other way of doing Sephiroth and Cloud. :drool: Then again, I'm biased because I personally think they look hot.

[spacepirateaiko]

Cloud...:drool: :drool:

I can't wait.

[Akito]

Originally posted by James_xeno
I wish FFVII would just DIE like it should.:dead: You're not the only one.

[Red XIV]

Thank you so much, Square, for totally raping FF7's ending with a pointlessly stupid follow-up. :complain:

[sazae]

Here is the website that I have found about this:
http://www.the-magicbox.com/game092503a.htm

[Gundam_Warrior1]

Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children
http://ps2.ign.com/articles/451/451541p1.html?fromint=1

This here is the real deal!

[Magus1307]

Damn, Cloud looks bad-***. Just hope it doesn't turn out stupid, like "oh, everyone died"

[Foldered]

Cool, I hope it doesn't royally suck...

[Hitokiri Kuratosu]

Meh, I think they should have just let it be. Cloud looks a lot like Tidus... *shivers* They should have kept the original anime-like designs (like Kingdom Hearts).

EDIT: The Magic Box (http://www.the-magicbox.com/game092503a.htm) has a bit more to that picture.

[ranmachen]

I keep hearing more and more about this!! OOOOooo . the anticipation!!

[Wind]

ME LOVE WORLD NOW.

[Arsinol]

If it's a movie, lame. If it's a game, I dunno.

By the way is everyone just going to ignore the FF Forum?

[ZeroKun]

guess you didnt read it right, it says that its not comfirmed whether be a video game or a movie.

[James_xeno]

It's time for FFVII to F**KING DIE.:dead:

[Hitokiri Kuratosu]

Pfft... I dunno what to say other than Cloud looks just like Tidus...

I have no idea of how they will continue the story, I mean it ended... what more is there to it. Looks as though they'll be pulling a story magically out of their ***.

[Foldered]

Originally posted by Arsinol
If it's a movie, lame. If it's a game, I dunno.

By the way is everyone just going to ignore the FF Forum?
:lol: i totally forgot...

[Nausicaa]

Actually, as much as I have always said I would hate if they ever did this, I'm really excited. Recently I've come to the conclusion that the only reason I ever really played console style RPGs was for the story. Aside from that, the gameplay has never really compelled me. That being said, I am glad I will be able to watch my second favorite Final Fantasy without having to walk and fight the boring battles in between plot developments.

Hopefully, they don't change the story. I'm also SO glad that this is NOT live action!!!

[zeig zeon]

Sw33t! A movie isn't what I would've hoped for, but hey, I'll take whatever I can get.

Although Hitokiri Bebop is right, Cloud does look like Tidus.

Of course, we all know what this'll lead to. The Aries revival group will return, constantly wondering if she indeed comes back.:hmph: I almost hope she does just so they'll stop...

[James_xeno]

DIE FFVII DIE.:dead:

[Foldered]

Originally posted by Alundra
I like the realistic approach, nothing wrong with it. But, I guess that's because I am a fan of dark things in videogames, so I like Seph's new look.
I really enjoy dark video games also...

[Arsinol]

I thought Square learned their lession with Spirits Within?

[Captain Tylor]

Originally posted by James_xeno
lol

lol

james and hiko, u two are so predictably negative about FF7-10....

i have an idea! u should both take the FF1-6 stick out of ur arses!

FF7 forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Nausicaa]

DIE FFVII DIE.

Well, I didn't think it would be possible, but your comments keep on getting less and less intelligent.

[Seijuro_Hiko_IX]

I would say this should be in the FF forum. But there is already a thread about it in there.

[Valkor]

*Prays for Vincent*

[James_xeno]

Originally posted by Tyler_Durden
Well, I didn't think it would be possible, but your comments keep on getting less and less intelligent. Well FFVII fan boys keep getting more and more moronic.

[Hitokiri Kuratosu]

Originally posted by Arsinol
I thought Square learned their lession with Spirits Within?
I thought so too, but maybe they're trying to improve; by making an FF movie that actually feels like FF, even if they have to resurrect a previous series.

[Arsinol]

Originally posted by James_xeno
Well FFVII fan boys keep getting more and more moronic.

You make Kamui_ShiroX look like Sigmund Freud.

[Nausicaa]

Well FFVII fan boys keep getting more and more moronic.

Please show me the FFVII fanboys in this thread, and where was it exactly that they were being "moronic"? Oh yeah, nowhere on both accounts.

In fact, the only person being "moronic" in this thread happens to be you!

[Hitokiri Kuratosu]

Originally posted by James_xeno
Well FFVII fan boys keep getting more and more moronic.
You're generalizing. It only makes you appear ignorant. Especially since there aren't any FFVII fanboys in this thread.

[Argent]

From a scoop from the upcoming issue of weekly jump IGN pulled this strange news of a DVD direct CG movie.

Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children (http://ps2.ign.com/articles/451/451541p1.html)

Oh...and Kingdom Hearts 2 was confirmed (http://ps2.ign.com/articles/451/451550p1.html) in the same issue of jump.

[James_xeno]

Originally posted by Tyler_Durden
Please show me the FFVII fanboys in this thread, and where was it exactly that they were being "moronic"? Oh yeah, nowhere on both accounts.

In fact, the only person being "moronic" in this thread happens to be you! This is the third thread about this and anybody with half a brain could see that. It's not even on the right board. If it's a mistake it's a stupid one and if not then it's probably a fan boy. And you look moronic for even bringing this up.

[Nausicaa]

This is the third thread about this and anybody with half a brain could see that. It's not even on the right board. If it's a mistake it's a stupid one and if not then it's probably a fan boy. And you look moronic for even bringing this up.

I'm not going to even grace this one with a thought out reply. I think most people feel the same way about you that I do.

[Gundam_Warrior1]

This is the third thread about this and anybody with half a brain could see that. It's not even on the right board. If it's a mistake it's a stupid one and if not then it's probably a fan boy. And you look moronic for even bringing this up.

1. I just heard about it.

2. I didn't see any post. (Admited I didn't go to the FF section)

3. Don't don't post if your bored of something.

If your calling me stupid for just be excited about this then I guess I am 100% guilty for it. :cheers:

[James_xeno]

Originally posted by Gundam_Warrior1
1. I just heard about it.

2. I didn't see any post. (Admited I didn't go to the FF section)

3. Don't don't post if your bored of something.

If your calling me stupid for just be excited about this then I guess I am 100% guilty for it. :cheers: No i don't care that much about it i just have a problem with people that cant just let other people say there opinions with out a smart A** comment.

[DJ_Squall]

in my honest personal opinion, i think FFVII is the least deserving of all final fantasies to have a sequel in movie form. i wouldn't have minded a sequel game, but since most of the other FF's have had much better plots, any of them would have been better sequeled.

[Nausicaa]

No i don't care that much about it i just have a problem with people that cant just let other people say there opinions with out a smart A** comment.

"DIE FFVII DIE" does not qualify as an opinion. You deserve all smart *** comments you recieve.

[Arsinol]

Originally posted by James_xeno
No i don't care that much about it i just have a problem with people that cant just let other people say there opinions with out a smart A** comment.

There is irony in that quote, but I'm too lazy to point it out. :lol:

[Hitokiri Kuratosu]

I heard that many aren't sure yet if this is a game or a movie.

~Source: The Magic Box (http://www.the-magicbox.com/game092503a.htm)

[Zumbi]

If it actually is coming out.... please dont suck, please dont suck, please dont suck, please dont suck, please dont suck.

[bleed for me]

its confirmed as a dvd computer generated movie

[Siendra]

I still think Cloud and Sephy look like crap. Hopefully its entertaining.

[Hitokiri Kuratosu]

I hope so too. But I can't help but entertain the thought that a mediocre story will be haphazardly pulled out of Square's ***. We'll just have to wait and see.

I still wish that they would've stuck with the original anime-style designs...

[Wind]

FF7 is my favorite, followed by 4 then 6. I dont see why some people are either 7-10 or 1-6....

[evasivemanuvers]

Originally posted by James_xeno
DIE FFVII DIE.:dead:
I wish it would too.

[Siendra]

I like 6, followed by 7, then 4, 2, 3, 1 and after that I hate 8-10.

[Anchalis Kinei]

I'm gonna see it when/if it comes out. I really don't think it's gonna be as good as the game, not within a miles distance, though...

[Flopsy]

I'm willing to bet that Aeris comes back to life at the end of the movie.

[Kouji]

Originally posted by James_xeno
It's time for FFVII to F**KING DIE.:dead:

y'know i agree with you it keeps coming up and never gos away

[Kevin K]

FF VII should have a sequel it was one of the greatest RPGs i have played. FFVIII deserves a sequel though

[Banchan]

Originally posted by Flopsy
I'm willing to bet that Aeris comes back to life at the end of the movie.

WHY COULDN'T THEY OF JUST USED A PHEONIX DOWN??!!?!?!

[Anchalis Kinei]

Well put!!! No, for the sake of drama and plot, we'll just dump the carcass into the water and leave. I always hate that part,but the actual game is easily one of the best! I didn't see any other of the Final Fantasies in the World Record book, oh no, so you can't say it's bad!

[RIP_Megusama]

OMGZZZ liek the Sephirothhh is still teh alvie ........ OMGZ!!? ROFLZZ!!


Seriously I think it will be worse than that crap call the Spirits within. The visuals look nice though, I have to admit.

[Ce'Nedra]

:complain: I hope this is a joke. FF VII should stay the way it is. I liked the way it ended.

[Cyan Bloodbane]

I have a felling it turn out bad, way can't FF7 just go away. Final Fantasy VII is overrated. I raelly don't care to see a movie with though dead beat characters. Aeris is dead, let hope it stays that way.

[Levon]

I love FF7 the most and I don't care if ppl think its overrated, big deal what they say. Like there opinion matters to me. Its my favorite FF game and I'v played & beat most of them(havn't played much of FFMQ or FF games for GB though). FF7 was my first RPG I played and its what got me into RPGs, then I got into anime. All thanks to FF7!

[A03]

Like most I was hoping this would be a game rather than a CG movie..Oh well! Can't win all the time..

[Cyan Bloodbane]

Originally posted by levon
I love FF7 the most and I don't care if ppl think its overrated, big deal what they say. Like there opinion matters to me. Its my favorite FF game and I'v played & beat most of them(havn't played much of FFMQ or FF games for GB though). FF7 was my first RPG I played and its what got me into RPGs, then I got into anime. All thanks to FF7!

What was your favorite ploit point in the game? Your favorite Character? Didn't you find the ploit a bit to disjointed?

[Levon]

Originally posted by A03
Like most I was hoping this would be a game rather than a CG movie..Oh well! Can't win all the time..

It is unclear whether this is only a DVD movie, or a full videogame.

[bleed for me]

no its clear, its a movie

[Levon]

Originally posted by Cyan Bloodbane
What was your favorite ploit point in the game? Your favorite Character? Didn't you find the ploit a bit to disjointed?


Whats a ploit?;)

If you mean "plot point" then even then I don't know what you mean by "point":???: I like all of the plot. Mostly the parts about the past.

My favorite character is Cid:lol::lol:


"Disjointed"? Hell no!

[XenoZero]

Nothing can be worse the Spirits within, well other then my spelling lol.

[Hibiki Amawa]

Don't know if people want their perception of Cloud and Sephiroth to be shattered by the movie if it's bad.

[marvelKnight]

i think its cool that they're making a movie and all, but damn, ff vii IS NOT the best final fantasy out there. you want the best, FF VI is, was, and always shall be the best......keep in mind that this is just my opinion though

[James_xeno]

Originally posted by Ce'Nedra
:complain: I hope this is a joke. FF VII should stay the way it is. I liked the way it ended. It's no joke.:angry:

[James_xeno]

Originally posted by DJ_Squall
in my honest personal opinion, i think FFVII is the least deserving of all final fantasies to have a sequel in movie form. i wouldn't have minded a sequel game, but since most of the other FF's have had much better plots, any of them would have been better sequeled. I agree plus we don't need any more FFVII anything.:hmph:

[Captain Tylor]

Originally posted by marvelKnight
i think its cool that they're making a movie and all, but damn, ff vii IS NOT the best final fantasy out there. you want the best, FF VI is, was, and always shall be the best......keep in mind that this is just my opinion though

oh! u mean it's not a fact?? PHEW~ :lol:

FF7 has one thing that FF6 doesn't have...

Vincent, Cid Highwind, Yuffie, Sephiroth, ect.

the characters is why we love FF7 so much, and we can't wait to see a movie based on them too!

(but, cloud and seph do look strange....hope this is going to be okay)

[RIP_Megusama]

I think this is the fifth thread I have seen talking about this movie.

[Anime_BulleT]

Well I really liked FF VII, so I don't mind if they make a movie about it.

[SonRyu]

Are they even sure that this movie thing isn't a hoax of some sort? FF7 is a great game and all, but I just can't picture Square doing a movie for a game this old. After the financial failure that was "The Spirits Within", I thought Square closed down their movie producing Honolulu Studio, and were just going to focus on games...

[Argent]

Originally posted by SonRyu
Are they even sure that this movie thing isn't a hoax of some sort?

Well we should know for sure when next weeks jump comes out, thats where this scoop supposedly came from.

[xX-Anarchy-Xx]

ff7 rocks! i feel lik i've been wating for this forever!!!!!

[Overbite]

does this really bother you that much?

perhaps you should stop playing videogames and find another hobby. you cant have everything your way.

[Wind]

Have it youuur way,
At Bk.. You got it.

[Seijuro_Hiko_IX]

Originally posted by Captain Tylor
FF7 forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And you are predictably biased towards FFVII. So why don't you take the FFVII stick out of your ***, or keep your own biased, hypocritical mouth shut. Don't talk to me as if I hate FFVII, because I don't, I am NOT one of the FFVII haters around here so why don't you look around before judging people. It would be wise to have knowledge and think things through before opening your mouth, or pressing the "post" button, as the case would be.

I'm in the computer animation industry, so I have to take an interest in any cinematic feature Square presents. I never said anything about not liking FFVII. I simply disaprove of the early, blury screens in which we are given.

[juniper]

I heard that Square said that was it for anything other than games... but it would be cool if this was true. Final Fantasy VII was my favorite... I'm actually playing it again right now :P

[Tiberian]

There's posters and crap everywhere at TGS. It's a movie. Get a clue people.

[DJ_Squall]

their movie department stuck around long enough to do Flight of the Osiris for the Animatrix...

[squirrel_mafia]

FFVII is my favorite RPG and I would love to see a movie based off of this game. I thought the plot and characters were the best of any FF game to date.

[Tiberian]

Originally posted by squirrel_mafia
...the plot and characters were the best of any FF game to date.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Oh, sorry. It just never gets old. I guess that's why movie like Gigli get made though. SOMEONE has to think it's interesting.

[Zumbi]

Originally posted by Tiberian
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Oh, sorry. It just never gets old. I guess that's why movie like Gigli get made though. SOMEONE has to think it's interesting.

:rolleyes: In case youve been living on a small island in the middle of nowhere for many many years, you'd know that many people consider FF7 to be one of the greatest games ever made, if not one of their favorites.....

Thats why Im hoping for the best in this movie, even though it has a strong chance that it will really suck too.

[Tiberian]

People liked Hilter too. Doesn't make it right.

[Red XIV]

Originally posted by Flopsy
I'm willing to bet that Aeris comes back to life at the end of the movie.
Sure, if Square decides they want to not only rape FF7's ending with this movie, but the rest of the game's story as well.

[Siendra]

WAit, maybe the "Children" part of the title and the really messed up looking Cloud and Sephy mean something...

[Alundra]

Originally posted by AnimedragonZ
WHY COULDN'T THEY OF JUST USED A PHEONIX DOWN??!!?!?!

God, I never thought I would answer this question, but:

Phoenix Downs are not used for incapacitation, thy are used like a smelling salt for a character that has been knocked unconscious. In the earlier FF's, character condidtions for "unconscious" would be labeled as "Swoon", or "KO".

[Seijuro_Hiko_IX]

Actually in FF1 it was a dead status, it said "Slain" when a character lost all their HP. However, there was no Pheonix downs in that game. You either need to be revived at a church or use a Life spell.

[Alundra]

Originally posted by Seijuro_Hiko_IX
Actually in FF1 it was a dead status, it said "Slain" when a character lost all their HP. However, there was no Pheonix downs in that game. You either need to be revived at a church or use a Life spell.

I didn't know that.....since I have never played FF1, I really need to do that. I think I'll go get a ROM right now...I hear that it's insanely tough, right?

[Seijuro_Hiko_IX]

That is correct. It is definatly the most unforgiving of the FF games. But I LOVE the game to death. Let me suggest that you pick up Final Fantasy Origins, though. It's not expensive and you get an updated version of FF1 and FF2. And the updated version of FF1 is awesome, I can't stop playing it, I've beaten it 3 times since I got it already.

The NES rom is still awesome, and I have so much love and respect for that game. But its very hard and suffers from some annoying things which come with the game's age. Auto targeting wasn't thought of yet, meaning if 2 people attack the same monster and the first kills it, the other won't automaticly attack a different one. Life spells don't work during battle, you must wait until its over to revive. Same with getting turned to stone. You must wait until the fight is over to cure it. You also can't purchase more than 1 item at a time. Meaning that buying 99 heal potions takes a good 5 minutes.

However, the FF Origins version fixes all those problems, and gives the game a graphical update to the SNES level, and a awesome update to the music. I highly recomend it.

[Wind]

Originally posted by levon
Whats a ploit?;)

If you mean "plot point" then even then I don't know what you mean by "point":???: I like all of the plot. Mostly the parts about the past.

My favorite character is Cid:lol::lol:


"Disjointed"? Hell no!

People who do not like the plot are usually the close minded. Its my favorite.

[DJ_Squall]

Originally posted by Tiberian
People liked Hilter too. Doesn't make it right.
despite my personal inclinations away from FFVII...you gotta admit that it was a lot better than Hitler. i actually thought game-wise it was one of the best, but as i already said plot-wise i like most other FF's better.

[Alundra]

Hmmm, now I'm in a bit of a pinch. I need to decide whether to get FFO, or finally buy myself that damned Gamecube!

GAH!

[Seijuro_Hiko_IX]

Sorry, I didn't meant to present such a dilema. However, FFO is not that expensive at all. You should find it for $30 at the MOST.

[Wind]

I'd go with ffo...

[keated]

one thing about it i guess is that sephy can come back... he was kinda unhappy to just settle down into the lifestream last time, and jenova re-formed... last time i was playing the northern crater, i couldnt help but wonder: What's to say it won't happen again?

[Wind]

In the ficture it seems the lifestream is shown over half of his body. =D

[Hitokiri Kuratosu]

Originally posted by Tiberian
People liked Hilter too. Doesn't make it right.
Oh you're so smart. That--that was the best analysis/comparison ever. It makes so much sense; Hitler and FFVII, well that just levels it off doesn't it? You're just so clever.

[So'/ sauce|) coo|<ie]

*squeals* Those images look so f*cking awesome. This has really brightened my day. I can't wait to get some more info on this. x]

[SonRyu]

Originally posted by Tiberian
There's posters and crap everywhere at TGS. It's a movie. Get a clue people. Holy cow, you know what posters are all over TGS before it's open to the public? Wow, sneak me in with you next time....

[Red XIV]

The difference is, in the flashback Sephiroth was simply dumped into the Lifestream by Cloud. At the end of FF7, he's killed by Cloud and company.

[Foldered]

Originally posted by Scarface
This time around I hope Cloud and Sephiroth kill each other.
at the same time, that would be sweet...

[Tenseiga]

check out the pic

http://www.rpgfan.com/news/pictures2003/ffvii-ac.jpg

[Tiran]

Lets all remember 'The Spirits Within'.

Then we should all not touch this movie with a pole.

FFVII is horribly overrated, but thats just my opinion.

[Levon]

Originally posted by Alundra
Hmmm, now I'm in a bit of a pinch. I need to decide whether to get FFO, or finally buy myself that damned Gamecube!

GAH!

FFO is so worth it! Only problem is I think FF1 & 2 are pretty short. I beat them each at around 25 hours maybe and I was really taking my time. I played it on easy though, maybe normal will take longer.

[Seijuro_Hiko_IX]

Personaly, I think Easy on FF1 was, well.... really easy.... You need to play it on normal to really have finished FF1. It's still much easier than the NES version, but its a lot less frustrating, and still a great challenge.

[Painkiller]

ooooo. I hope, Final Fantasy VII was my favorite one. Ill keep my fingers crossed!

[thelostyears]

Great news. It was my favorite game when i played it.

[Captain Tylor]

nothing hypo. in what i said.

Forget about the last comment u made about the FF7 cinema. I noticed u haven't said anything possitive about anything FF7. U are very predictable, and the FF6 stick is getting harder for u to pull out~ lol

oh, i always think things through.. I've seen ur FF7 blasts for almost 2 years now~ keep em goin, but it's only gonna cause more stress

Originally posted by Seijuro_Hiko_IX
And you are predictably biased towards FFVII. So why don't you take the FFVII stick out of your ***, or keep your own biased, hypocritical mouth shut. Don't talk to me as if I hate FFVII, because I don't, I am NOT one of the FFVII haters around here so why don't you look around before judging people. It would be wise to have knowledge and think things through before opening your mouth, or pressing the "post" button, as the case would be.

I'm in the computer animation industry, so I have to take an interest in any cinematic feature Square presents. I never said anything about not liking FFVII. I simply disaprove of the early, blury screens in which we are given. :cheers: :cheers:

[marvelKnight]

Originally posted by Tiran
Lets all remember 'The Spirits Within'.

Then we should all not touch this movie with a pole.

FFVII is horribly overrated, but thats just my opinion.

i actually liked spirits within......and yeah, ff7 is totally overated and doesnt deserve the title of the best - ff 6 is the best final fantasy hands down

[Red XIV]

Take a look at my handle. 3 guesses where it came from, and the first 2 don't count.

Now that we've taken care of that, I agree that FF7 needs to "just die". Square shouldn't be wasting their time and money rehashing it, they should do the same thing they've been doing: giving us new stuff.

[sfried]

Again, I really could care less about FF7. At least KH was a different franchise, but IMHO, FF7 did NOT define what FF actually is, or what it should be.

[James_xeno]

Originally posted by Red XIV

Now that we've taken care of that, I agree that FF7 needs to "just die". Square shouldn't be wasting their time and money rehashing it, they should do the same thing they've been doing: giving us new stuff. Yea they already wasted all that money on FFVII the first time. And it STILL didn't even compare to most of there other RPG's.

[Wind]

wasted there money...... they made more money with that one then any at the time.. Stop speaking from your ***.

[Jayfaye]

Yea they already wasted all that money on FFVII the first time. And it STILL didn't even compare to most of there other RPG's.
:???:

[James_xeno]

Originally posted by ReikkiMerru
Wasted??? Then why is FFVII labeled as one of the Greatest Hits? Every FF game is labeled a "Greatest Hit"

[Wind]

Find me where it says that ff7 sold bad and was a bad investment. and i will give you a million dollars.

[James_xeno]

Originally posted by Wind
Stop speaking from your ***. Speaking from my ***? Oh thats something i must have picked that up from you.

[Wind]

I really hate James..... You just post information with absolutly no way to back it up.

You dont like the game so on EVERY thread about this game you always say somthing like "FF7 SHOULD DIE" Hows this. Why dont you just stay the **** away from the thread? and not bother with it? you'd be saving everyone alot of trouble. Why? We wouldnt have to read your crap.

[James_xeno]

Originally posted by ReikkiMerru
Exactly. With the exception of Chronicles and Anthology, every FF game is a Greatest Hit, meaning Square made money off of it. And does anyone remember Ergheiz? It had FFVII characters in it.

One more thing, stop bashing FFVII because its popular and awesome. You guys are just as immature as the guys who bash that Titanic movie. I was talking about the money spent in development of it. Money that was taken away from other games of the time like Xenogears. Do you know why the second disc of Xenogears feels incredibly rushed well thats because the developers were short on their budget (which explains why they left to Namco) and do you know why they were short on their budget, FFVII...

[Overbite]

Originally posted by James_xeno
I was talking about the money spent in development of it. Money that was taken away from other games of the time like Xenogears. Do you know why the second disc of Xenogears feels incredibly rushed well thats because the developers were short on their budget (which explains why they left to Namco) and do you know why they were short on their budget, FFVII...

damn. you've went and made an *** of yourself again.

FFVII was FINISHED and sold a hell of a lot of copies before Xenosaga was even halfway done. hell, at the same time Xenogears came out, FFVIII demo was out as well.

so, how is it possible that a very successful game that made them a lot of money was able to take money AWAY from a game in development? that doesnt make any sense. i really shouldnt be all that suprised.

[James_xeno]

Originally posted by Wind
I really hate James..... You just post information with absolutly no way to back it up.

You dont like the game so on EVERY thread about this game you always say somthing like "FF7 SHOULD DIE" Hows this. Why dont you just stay the **** away from the thread? and not bother with it? you'd be saving everyone alot of trouble. Why? We wouldnt have to read your crap. Whats wrong are you going to cry now because i don't think that FFVII is GOD's gift to RPG's. I have the right to give my opinion on anything especially if it's an over-rated game. And your wrong i don't hate FFVII i like it I'm just tired of people talking about it like it's the GOD of RPG's. And people making a bunch of boards about it. Or every time i tell anyone that Xenogears is my favorite i have ten fan boys jump in and tell me that my opinion's wrong.(Thats usually only on other boards)

[James_xeno]

Originally posted by SRT
damn. you've went and made an *** of yourself again.

FFVII was FINISHED and sold a hell of a lot of copies before Xenosaga was even halfway done. hell, at the same time Xenogears came out, FFVIII demo was out as well.

so, how is it possible that a very successful game that made them a lot of money was able to take money AWAY from a game in development? that doesnt make any sense. i really shouldnt be all that suprised. I'm sorry but no it's only a year difference and xenogears was in development for a little over two years so FFVII had a direct impact on Xenogears. Thats a fact read any article about it's development or about the reason that the development team left.

[Red XIV]

Direct from your sig:

Least favorite games FFVII
Oh no, obviously you don't hate FF7.

[Overbite]

he hates everything american too.

oooh a purist

[James_xeno]

Originally posted by Red XIV
Direct from your sig:


Oh no, obviously you don't hate FF7. It's fan boys that made me start to hate FFVII.

[Tiran]

Originally posted by marvelKnight
i actually liked spirits within......and yeah, ff7 is totally overated and doesnt deserve the title of the best - ff 6 is the best final fantasy hands down

You, my friend, are the man.
Have a cookie!

I like FFVI the best, hands down.

[jedimaster2004]

I hate when people start to use the word fanboy. Whenever someone likes something that doesn't agree with someone else they become a fanboy. FF7 is one of my favorites and one of the best ever rpgs. FF7 was the beginning of all modern RPGs, it took rpgs out of the 2D and into the 3D. It brought CG movies and FMVs to gaming. (It was done before, but 7 used it for story telling instead of just a intro or ending) It was the first Major rpg for the playstation, this one game prolly made playstation a more popular system then nintendo and sega at the time. It has one of the greatest and emotion storylines ever created. I have never cried to a game before, anything that can stire up that much emotion is a master piece. I don't think anyone can dissagree with me that 7 has the largest fanbase, and square has noticed that. I am sure after ffX got its sequal, square prolly got tons of requests for ff7. Why not give fans what they want? If you don't like the idea, don't watch it. I am hoping that this movie will give more popularity for the cast of ff7, so we can see them in further square games, ex kingdom hearts.

Long live ff7, the reason squaresoft/square enix is what it is today.

[Captain Tylor]

James, will u please leave the threads titled "FF7". thanks ^_^

...and take Hiko with u

The Blue Oyster is open 24-hours on weekends :cheers:

[Seijuro_Hiko_IX]

I'll enter what ever threads I want. I see absolutly no reason for me to leave any FF7 threads. After all, I liked the game just as much as any normal person. I just don't obsess over it because unlike most people I knew that RPGs existed before FFVII, and I knew that Final Fantasy games existed before FFVII. It wasn't the be all end all of RPGs to me, it was just the next game in my favorite RPG series. I have no idea where you got the idea that I dislike FFVII. Now you are just making crap up. Does it really bother you that I don't like FFVII as much as you?

[Alundra]

Originally posted by James_xeno
I was talking about the money spent in development of it. Money that was taken away from other games of the time like Xenogears. Do you know why the second disc of Xenogears feels incredibly rushed well thats because the developers were short on their budget (which explains why they left to Namco) and do you know why they were short on their budget, FFVII...

I'd love to know how that happens, James. Budgets are set for a gmae when it is first being developed, and let me tell you, Xenogears didn't have some big-*** budget. Here's another thing you can bake over: Square has enough money to produce Xenogears and FFVII at the same time, it was their most profitable year ever to date. You can't use information that has no relevance to the subject.


I'm sorry but no it's only a year difference and xenogears was in development for a little over two years so FFVII had a direct impact on Xenogears. Thats a fact read any article about it's development or about the reason that the development team left.

I love how you speak in a factual way, how are you going to tell us that FFVII had a direct impact on Xenogears? They wouldn't have put the game into development if it was going to put them so far in the hole that they had to rush it, and again, read my statement above.

It's fan boys that made me start to hate FFVII.

That's bulls*it, you're just cornered and can't really find a good reason to dislike the game. I could make a safe bet that you would love this game if everyone on this board liked it. You have no substance in your posts and have never presented an actual statement on why you dislike the game. And if you base the integrity of a game in it's fan following, you're just as shallow as I thought you were.

You know why people here hate you? It's because you are a bandwagon poster, you won't post something negative or positive until someone else has the balls to do it first. You present no facts for your posts and are so biased that you can't even put substance in your posts because you have your head so far up your biased *** that you can't even acknowledge the presense of other good games besides your beloved Xenogears.

I mean, why do you even post in the PC thread? Are you just there to say, "Oh, the PC gaming genre sucks because it's an American company". MY GOD I hate that, you have no reason to come into a thread and havbe no reason to post except to bash people that are trying to discuss the joy that is American PC gaming. I don't know what you're problem with America is, but stay the hell away from theads that have no relevance to your gaming experiences.

To this day, I still wait for you to post something that contains some relevance to the discussion.

[tv33]

Originally posted by James_xeno
It's fan boys that made me start to hate FFVII.

That comment makes no sense to me. Why would you like or dislike a game based on what other people thought of it?

[Master_Xellos]

FF6 is the greatest Then FF7!

Followed by FF4, then KH, then FFX, then FF9, then all those I haven't played like ffta, then Erghiz, then FF8! ^_^

BTW, if all you guys don't stop flamin each other this thread will be closed down,
or perhaps deleted completely! :complain:

[Alundra]

Originally posted by Master_Xellos
BTW, if all you guys don't stop flamin each other this thread will be closed down,
or perhaps deleted completely! :complain:

Just to clear things up, I'm not trying to start a flame war here, I'm just saying stuff that everyone else is dying to say. It's come to a point where it's just rediculous nowadays.

[Hitokiri Kuratosu]

Originally posted by tv33
That comment makes no sense to me. Why would you like or dislike a game based on what other people thought of it?
I agree; he's saying that because the series is so popular and has quite a following, it destroys the gameplay and story. riiight :rolleyes: Such is the way of an elitist; because something has so much popularity it isn't "cool" to like it anymore.

[sfried]

Originally posted by jedimaster2004
I hate when people start to use the word fanboy. Whenever someone likes something that doesn't agree with someone else they become a fanboy. FF7 is one of my favorites and one of the best ever rpgs. FF7 was the beginning of all modern RPGs, it took rpgs out of the 2D and into the 3D. It brought CG movies and FMVs to gaming. (It was done before, but 7 used it for story telling instead of just a intro or ending) It was the first Major rpg for the playstation, this one game prolly made playstation a more popular system then nintendo and sega at the time. It has one of the greatest and emotion storylines ever created. I have never cried to a game before, anything that can stire up that much emotion is a master piece. I don't think anyone can dissagree with me that 7 has the largest fanbase, and square has noticed that. I am sure after ffX got its sequal, square prolly got tons of requests for ff7. Why not give fans what they want? If you don't like the idea, don't watch it. I am hoping that this movie will give more popularity for the cast of ff7, so we can see them in further square games, ex kingdom hearts.

Long live ff7, the reason squaresoft/square enix is what it is today.

I find it untrue that FFVII is what made RPG's "all great" and stuff. Compared to VI, VII's emotional storyline was not as deep. And 2D to 3D with the use of FMV, doesn't help. All it does is made the RPG genre more mainstream. And it did make the PS more popular than Nin and Sega at one point. But as for the rest, all it did was water down the franchise to cater more to the masses. That, IMO, is not a good reason why it should be credited. Yeah, it made Square popular, but at what cost? No more Mario RPG? More games that play more like movies? And all this "cool bad guy" stuff? If anything, FFVII was what tried to make FF look "cool", but the fact is, other FF's existed before that, and they were better... even with the "primitive graphics". The gameplay was exceptional, and the plot... some of the best, that ties all right down with what you're doing in the game and with the music...did I forget that the SNES had some of the best compositions for musi back at the time, even for midi?

I'm sick and tired of all these FFVII "fans" trying to defend thier own game from being called overrated, when in fact it is. I've played FFVII, and it was good...but nowhere near the perfection which was VI. I loved the characters of VI, almost every one of them. And there was no "spikey haired hero dude" that did all of the plotwork. You have a girl with a shady past and no memory of it whatsoever, and a was going on between a rebelion and an empire...and it all ties down together. Couple it with some of the best battle systems, which has been repeatedly copied, and you really have a deep game. I don't see why FFVII "fans" have to bash all of the older FFs just because they never played it(,or because they're on a Nintendo system), or have played it but deem it "outdated". You really have to appriciate what they did back then, and it was marvelous. Unfortunately, alot of the "newer" gamers don't seem to realize that...

[juniper]

I've never played FFVI, but I did love VII and Spirits Within... sure, it had some plot holes etc. but overall I found it entertaining and fascinating from an artist's point of view.

[Maikeru]

Here's a small article on FFVII: AC from gamespy's report on the Tokyo Game Show '03.
http://www.gamespy.com/tgs2003/squareenix/adventchildren/

It's odd... it seems that even SquareEnix doesn't even know how Advent Children will be released... or what it qualifies as.

Interesting.
I'm not into the new looks of Cloud and Sephiroth... but I'm sure the animation is done rather nicely. Thinking back with Last Flight of the Osiris... I know Square can do some rather impressive stuff.

[jedimaster2004]

Originally posted by sfried
I find it untrue that FFVII is what made RPG's "all great" and stuff. Compared to VI, VII's emotional storyline was not as deep. And 2D to 3D with the use of FMV, doesn't help. All it does is made the RPG genre more mainstream. And it did make the PS more popular than Nin and Sega at one point. But as for the rest, all it did was water down the franchise to cater more to the masses. That, IMO, is not a good reason why it should be credited. Yeah, it made Square popular, but at what cost? No more Mario RPG? More games that play more like movies? And all this "cool bad guy" stuff? If anything, FFVII was what tried to make FF look "cool", but the fact is, other FF's existed before that, and they were better... even with the "primitive graphics". The gameplay was exceptional, and the plot... some of the best, that ties all right down with what you're doing in the game and with the music...did I forget that the SNES had some of the best compositions for musi back at the time, even for midi?

I'm sick and tired of all these FFVII "fans" trying to defend thier own game from being called overrated, when in fact it is. I've played FFVII, and it was good...but nowhere near the perfection which was VI. I loved the characters of VI, almost every one of them. And there was no "spikey haired hero dude" that did all of the plotwork. You have a girl with a shady past and no memory of it whatsoever, and a was going on between a rebelion and an empire...and it all ties down together. Couple it with some of the best battle systems, which has been repeatedly copied, and you really have a deep game. I don't see why FFVII "fans" have to bash all of the older FFs just because they never played it(,or because they're on a Nintendo system), or have played it but deem it "outdated". You really have to appriciate what they did back then, and it was marvelous. Unfortunately, alot of the "newer" gamers don't seem to realize that...

I have played all final fantasy and still play them to this day. I have never based older game. Some people like more style over substance way. Its all personal opinions. I enjoy a good storyline, and i can be entertained either threw flash graphics or oldschool text. But no one can deny what ff7 did to rpgs, whether you like the way it turned out or not. To have 1 rpg change the way the rest of rpgs are made is revolutionary. Personally i like rpgs being more mainstream because there is more of them. I thought 6 was great, so many charcters, with a great story. But i will sacrifice alittle bit of that to get a square rpg every year. Don't put me in the same league as the people that bash older games.

[tv33]

Originally posted by sfried
Compared to VI, VII's emotional storyline was not as deep.

Opinion

Originally posted by sfried

And 2D to 3D with the use of FMV, doesn't help.

Opinion

Originally posted by sfried

But as for the rest, all it did was water down the franchise to cater more to the masses.

Opinion

Originally posted by sfried

If anything, FFVII was what tried to make FF look "cool", but the fact is, other FF's existed before that, and they were better...

No, not fact, opinion


Originally posted by sfried

I'm sick and tired of all these FFVII "fans" trying to defend thier own game from being called overrated, when in fact it is.

Nope, because what is or is not overrated is, you guessed it, opinion.

Originally posted by sfried

I've played FFVII, and it was good...but nowhere near the perfection which was VI. .

Opinion

Originally posted by sfried

I don't see why FFVII "fans" have to bash all of the older FFs just because they never played it(,or because they're on a Nintendo system), or have played it but deem it "outdated".

Please show me where these mindless fanboys are. The only person I see bashing other Final Fantasies is you.

Originally posted by sfried

Unfortunately, alot of the "newer" gamers don't seem to realize that...

And mindless elitist comments like that don't help you case.

I agree, I think FF6 is the best RGP in existence. But the difference is I don't go around stating my opinion as fact, and acting like an elitist ***.

I hate to brake it to you, but just because someone disagrees with you does not make them wrong.

[The Seatbelts]

FFVII compared to Hitler? What's going on in this thread? Some sources say FFVII: Advent Children will be one hour in length and even "if" the plot is just as bad as Spirits Within, all that despise or favor FFVII will probably end up watching it anyway.

[VampireHunterC]

Originally posted by SonRyu
After the financial failure that was "The Spirits Within", I thought Square closed down their movie producing Honolulu Studio, and were just going to focus on games...

They didn't entirely...I heard if a company offers to pay them money they will make things- just like they did for the Animatrix.

[squirrel_mafia]

Originally posted by Tiberian
People liked Hilter too. Doesn't make it right.

We can like whatever we want... Is liking FF7 gonna hurt anyone? Maybe itll hurt your head with comprehending that people have different tastes and opinons.

How the hell is it not right to like a game?

[DJ_Squall]

Originally posted by The Seatbelts
and even "if" the plot is just as bad as Spirits Within, all that despise or favor FFVII will probably end up watching it anyway.
how very very true...

[Nausicaa]

That's bulls*it, you're just cornered and can't really find a good reason to dislike the game. I could make a safe bet that you would love this game if everyone on this board liked it. You have no substance in your posts and have never presented an actual statement on why you dislike the game. And if you base the integrity of a game in it's fan following, you're just as shallow as I thought you were.

You know why people here hate you? It's because you are a bandwagon poster, you won't post something negative or positive until someone else has the balls to do it first. You present no facts for your posts and are so biased that you can't even put substance in your posts because you have your head so far up your biased *** that you can't even acknowledge the presense of other good games besides your beloved Xenogears.

I mean, why do you even post in the PC thread? Are you just there to say, "Oh, the PC gaming genre sucks because it's an American company". MY GOD I hate that, you have no reason to come into a thread and havbe no reason to post except to bash people that are trying to discuss the joy that is American PC gaming. I don't know what you're problem with America is, but stay the hell away from theads that have no relevance to your gaming experiences.

To this day, I still wait for you to post something that contains some relevance to the discussion.

:eek:

You, sir, are my new hero! I think this is the one post in this thread that we can ALL agree on.

[Sixteen]

Like many people I cut my teeth on FF RPGs with Tatics and then FFVII. But I have played the original FF that came out for nintendo here in the states. I later played Cronicals, And most resently got to play Origins. (Personally I like the revamped verson of FF1. Don't have to worry about your character attacking the same monster after it died.)

But lets move a little more to the point. Do I like FFVII? Yes. Did I like and accually come to care about the characters in it including the hidden characters (Vincent and Yuffie.)? yes. Was the use of CG movies in the storyline something that I enjoyed and related to? Yes.

Ok there are a few questions answered. Granted that FFVII became the mainstream game for FF series. Sorry that like the old metallica fans you lost the out of the back pocket feeling. But the truth was that many people FFVII brought the joy of RPGs and the idea of a plot to a game besides shoot and kill (Sorry I enjoyed those games for a while but Mortal Kombat wears off after a while and shooting games has fun has they may be get tiresome.). So where does it fit? Well FFVII brought a new generation into RPGs. It was the door that lead into a new Realm. There has been games since then that has done the same but to a set generation it will always be popular. It will be their favorite.

Now to the point of the movie. Well I can't say that I am happy because frankly I think of this and I think of Spirits within. So I am thinking a total B@stardation of what FFVII stands for. I hate the thought that they are going to screw with the RPG has is... A game that would have been a prequel would be nice. But I doubt that it would really be too long. Unless you wanted to make it over Sephiroth's life. In which case that would be pretty awesome. Bring Cloud, Tifa, and Aries into it late into the game. Giving Aries and Tifa a short span and making Cloud a sort of bring along character that just helps out Sephiroth. Of course Zack would need to be part of it.

But that is me. I hope for the best from the movie... But I seriously doubt that I will get that.

[Alundra]

Originally posted by Tyler_Durden
:eek:

You, sir, are my new hero! I think this is the one post in this thread that we can ALL agree on.

Thanks, it just sorta flowed when I started to write it. I don't like to say stuff like that until it comes to a point where it's unbearable. He pressed my proverbial envelope, and I decided to seal it.

[Tiberian]

This topic is always so much fun.


Originally posted by SonRyu
Holy cow, you know what posters are all over TGS before it's open to the public? Wow, sneak me in with you next time....

I'm not there. I saw a picture on this neat thing called the internet. It's actually the same thing you use to come here. And it can find pictures! Amazing!

[evasivemanuvers]

Die FFVII DIE.

[James_xeno]

Originally posted by Captain Tylor
James, will u please leave the threads titled "FF7". thanks ^_^

...and take Hiko with u

The Blue Oyster is open 24-hours on weekends :cheers: No I have the right to give my opinion on this you leave.

[James_xeno]

Originally posted by Alundra
I'd love to know how that happens, James. Budgets are set for a gmae when it is first being developed, and let me tell you, Xenogears didn't have some big-*** budget. Here's another thing you can bake over: Square has enough money to produce Xenogears and FFVII at the same time, it was their most profitable year ever to date. You can't use information that has no relevance to the subject.




I love how you speak in a factual way, how are you going to tell us that FFVII had a direct impact on Xenogears? They wouldn't have put the game into development if it was going to put them so far in the hole that they had to rush it, and again, read my statement above.



That's bulls*it, you're just cornered and can't really find a good reason to dislike the game. I could make a safe bet that you would love this game if everyone on this board liked it. You have no substance in your posts and have never presented an actual statement on why you dislike the game. And if you base the integrity of a game in it's fan following, you're just as shallow as I thought you were.

You know why people here hate you? It's because you are a bandwagon poster, you won't post something negative or positive until someone else has the balls to do it first. You present no facts for your posts and are so biased that you can't even put substance in your posts because you have your head so far up your biased *** that you can't even acknowledge the presense of other good games besides your beloved Xenogears.

I mean, why do you even post in the PC thread? Are you just there to say, "Oh, the PC gaming genre sucks because it's an American company". MY GOD I hate that, you have no reason to come into a thread and havbe no reason to post except to bash people that are trying to discuss the joy that is American PC gaming. I don't know what you're problem with America is, but stay the hell away from theads that have no relevance to your gaming experiences.

To this day, I still wait for you to post something that contains some relevance to the discussion. I'm not going to argue about this with someone that doesn't seem to know anything about this other than his own opinion. And I have the right to give my opinion on the PC board or any other board if you don't like what i have to say then don't read my posts.

[James_xeno]

Originally posted by Red XIV
Direct from your sig:


Oh no, obviously you don't hate FF7. Originally posted by SRT
he hates everything american too.

oooh a purist "Least favorite games" NOT games i hate. Can you read???

[Nausicaa]

No I have the right to give my opinion on this you leave.

That's the funny part. You have yet to make one comment regarding the new movie that is THE ENTIRE POINT OF THIS THREAD! This thread is about Advent Children, not FFVII the game. "Die FFVII DIE" is not an opinion.

I'm not going to argue about this with someone that doesn't seem to know anything about this other than his own opinion. And I have the right to give my opinion on the PC board or any other board if you don't like what i have to say then don't read my posts.

Nothing? Who the hell is your source?! "Some magazine" :rolleyes:

It's funny that you're one to talk about opinion now. Us "FFVII Fanboys" have a right to our opinion as well, and if YOU don't like them, YOU can leave. Our comments in a thread obviously created for FFVII fans have more place here than your flame-bait ********.

[James_xeno]

Originally posted by Tyler_Durden
That's the funny part. You have yet to make one comment regarding the new movie that is THE ENTIRE POINT OF THIS THREAD! This thread is about Advent Children, not FFVII the game. "Die FFVII DIE" is not an opinion.



Nothing? Who the hell is your source?! "Some magazine" :rolleyes:

It's funny that you're one to talk about opinion now. Us "FFVII Fanboys" have a right to our opinion as well, and if YOU don't like them, YOU can leave. Our comments in a thread obviously created for FFVII fans have more place here than your flame-bait ********. I can take your opinions with out crying about them. And who the hell is Alundra source other than his own opinion.

[James_xeno]

Originally posted by ReikkiMerru
Then why do you litter other people's threads saying FF7 should die and PC gaming sucks? That means you hate them. No that means l liked it (at one time) but now it's time for it to DIE out.

[Nausicaa]

I can take your opinions with out crying about them. And who the hell is Alundra source other than his own opinion.

Who said this again: "FFVII fanboys made me hate the game"?

You brought it up dumbass, Alundra does not need to prove anything, YOU do.

[James_xeno]

Originally posted by Tyler_Durden
Who said this again: "FFVII fanboys made me hate the game"?

You brought it up dumbass, Alundra does not need to prove anything, YOU do. I was responding to Red XIV who said " Oh no, obviously you don't hate FF7" and i just didn't correct him.

[Nausicaa]

No that means l liked it (at one time) but now it's time for it to DIE out.

What do you mean "DIE out"!? Oh, it's been out for 6 years now, so we should all just forget about it, even though it's many people's favorite game? Yeah, let's forget about Xenogears too then. "It's been out for 6 years, time to erase it from our minds!"

[James_xeno]

Originally posted by ReikkiMerru
How? By going into every retail store that sells FF7 and breaking the games "Aaaarggghhh!!! Die FF7 you stupid son of a b****" I'd like to see that :lol: :lol: :lol:

::Chucks FF7 copies to the floor and stomps them, even throws some at the retailer and other people, who look at him like WTF:: lol. I meant talking about it.

[Nausicaa]

I was responding to Red XIV who said " Oh no, obviously you don't hate FF7" and i just didn't correct him.

Oh, so you do hate the game then!?

The inconsistencies in your posts prove that you don't have the slightest clue of what you're talking about, even your own opinions. You should just quit now and save further embarrassment.

[Jayfaye]

I think James kind of jealous that there isn't a XenoGears forum. ;)

[James_xeno]

Originally posted by Tyler_Durden
Oh, so you do hate the game then!?

Are you a moron???

[James_xeno]

Originally posted by Jayfaye
I think James kind of jealous that there isn't a XenoGears forum. ;) I go to Xenogears boards when i want to talk about Xenogears.

[Nausicaa]

Are you a moron???

Nope, but I think its been fairly well established that you are.

Great job, you don't know what you're talking about, you cornered yourself with your own opinions, and now you resort to this.

[James_xeno]

Originally posted by Tyler_Durden
Nope, but I think its been fairly well established that you are.

Great job, you don't know what you're talking about, you cornered yourself with your own opinions, and now you resort to this. You started the name calling or don't you remember this "You brought it up dumb ***"

[Nausicaa]

dumb ***

It's not an insult, its a fact. I do hope you can come to terms with it soon!

[James_xeno]

Originally posted by Tyler_Durden
It's not an insult, its a fact. I do hope you can come to terms with it soon! Neither was mine it was just a question.

[Akito]

Knock it off already. Some people think FF7 is God's gift to mankind and some people think it's a sign of the apocalypse. But in reality, it's just a f***ing video game. No reason for everyone to flame each other over it. Some people love it and some people hate it. Deal with it.

[Siendra]

:cheers: Nice post, Akito.

Also, sweet avvie :D

[Wind]

I dont think there is a single person on the board who likes James the slightest bit. I personally wouldnt care if i never see or hear from you again.

[Siendra]

You know, you arent going to improve this threads with comments like that...

[Wind]

Sorry but it is how i feel. If i can find a way to put a stop to james's random posting about how much he doesnt like pc games and ff7. Then i dont care if i need to send an assasin. he is making my life very tiresome, and i am sure for people like Alundra and Tyler Durden aswell, we have to keep responding to his crap over and over. Just make it stop.

[Wind]

True. I need to post there more. Thanks scar =)

[James_xeno]

Originally posted by Wind
Sorry but it is how i feel. If i can find a way to put a stop to james's random posting about how much he doesnt like pc games and ff7. Then i dont care if i need to send an assasin. he is making my life very tiresome, and i am sure for people like Alundra and Tyler Durden aswell, we have to keep responding to his crap over and over. Just make it stop. I'm tired of hearing about FFVII. If i'm making your life so tiresome then just ignore my simple as that.

[Wind]

Why cant you ignore the posts about ff7? your contradicting yourself.

[James_xeno]

Originally posted by Wind
Why cant you ignore the posts about ff7? your contradicting yourself. No you could say your opinion and will say mine you just ignore mine.

[Wind]

I wouldnt have to ignore your stupid opinion if you would ignore the FF7 threads. no?

[James_xeno]

Originally posted by Wind
I wouldnt have to ignore your stupid opinion if you would ignore the FF7 threads. no? NO!

[Wind]

Ignorance.

[Captain Tylor]

Let's discuss FF7 and what links it will actually have with the movie...

This will be maturily discussed thread (hopefully).

The other thread should be erased if possible~

On a side note~~ I was kinda hopin to see what they'll make Barret look like in CG...lol

Or IF they'll even include him~

[Overbite]

the "other" thread? there are like 4 of them

[Haruhi]

Er.....James... If you don't like hearing about Final Fantasy 7, then don't post in the threads. It's as simple as that. There's no need for you to be a sorespot to somebody else, just because you hate something.

In Jame's defense though, none of you should jump on his case, for not liking FF7.

That is all. Now, break it up.

[Seijuro_Hiko_IX]

Originally posted by ReikkiMerru
Yeah, if only this could happen to Hiko and all the other FF7 haters. :evil:

1):look:

2):uhoh:

3):eek:

4):spin:

5):boom:


Wow, you really don't pay attention to anything do you? No wonder you always have to latch on to someone who is a better debater than you are! :lol:

I'm sorry to disapoint you, my immature friend, but I don't hate FFVII. Now, if you bothered to pay any actual attention to everything, then you would know that. In fact, I bet I've played FFVII more times that you have.

[Alundra]

Originally posted by James_xeno
I'm not going to argue about this with someone that doesn't seem to know anything about this other than his own opinion. And I have the right to give my opinion on the PC board or any other board if you don't like what i have to say then don't read my posts.

I don't speak in opinion when it comes to this, I only speak on what is true. You just can't compete with my arguement, that's all.

If your gonna post in a thread, have some relevance to the topic, not your own personal bias.

[juniper]

Wow... this thread seems to have lost any trace of relevance to the original topic.

I don't see why FFVII has to *die*...
Why? Because lots of people really like it? Because it's old? That doesn't make much sense to me.

Why can't people accept the fact that some things are popular and people will like them?

*shakes head sadly*

[Arsinol]

I think it's a lame idea for several reasons. The main one being it's not a game.

[Nausicaa]

I don't like the idea of it being a sequel. If it was just a retelling of FFVII in really nice CG, I would be really excited. I don't really know anything about the movie aside from a few blurry screens though, so I don't think its fair to judge.

[sazae]

I really don't know what to think of the movie. I'll pick it up as soon as it comes out in Japan but I would really have prefered a FFVI movie. I don't want a movie telling me how VII ended, I liked having the option of coming up with my own ideas as to what happened at the end of the game.

[James_xeno]

Originally posted by Alundra
I don't speak in opinion when it comes to this, I only speak on what is true. You just can't compete with my arguement, that's all.

If your gonna post in a thread, have some relevance to the topic, not your own personal bias. WHAT argument/truth do you speak of? Because there was none in your post. Just you babbling about how game budgets are usually set for a game when it is first being developed. Which was beside the point.

[Alundra]

Originally posted by James_xeno
WHAT argument/truth do you speak of? Because there was none in your post. Just you babbling about how game budgets are usually set for a game when it is first being developed. Which was beside the point.

Sorry, I'm done with this.

You're exposed, you lose.

[Haruhi]

All right. Enough is enough. Thread closed.

[Hankoubou]

we dont need 7482903748972309875 threads for this.

[Red XIV]

FF7:AC not being a game is the least of the problems I have with it. Hell, if anything it's better that it's not a game. The problem is that I detest the idea of an FF7 sequel. By its very existance, such a sequel means FF7's ending now actually is as pointless as its detractors claim. The whole point of the ending is the uncertainty about what happens after Meteor is stopped, and that's all gone now.

[Laughing Hyena]

You never know until more information comes out about it.

I think it's interesting because it might even raise more questions than answer everything (Square is not going to revel everything, I can bet you on that). Of course it might prove certain people's theories as well (I belong in the "humans were not killed off" category for example). And piss off the people who have now found out their theories are wrong and have to change them once more info comes out on the DVD.
One thing I hope is that it revels more about the secretive Jenova Project and if the theory that Hojo was a victim as well in the whole thing is correct or close to it.

Or people can dismiss it all together and say whatever happens in it does not affect their fanfiction series at all.

[Arsinol]

They've finally done it.

The graphics whores have taken over and elminated gameplay.

[Laughing Hyena]

Can we actually discuss about the DVD without resorting about "how bad it's going to be"?

The graphics whores have taken over and elminated gameplay.

This is a DVD, not a game. What about all the Suikoden (I love that series) novels or books put out by Komani? Couldn't you say the same thing about that? Egads! The text whores have taken over and eliminated game play!

[Arsinol]

Originally posted by Laughing Hyena
Can we actually discuss about the DVD without resorting about "how bad it's going to be"?

No.

This is a DVD, not a game. What about all the Suikoden (I love that series) novels or books put out by Komani? Couldn't you say the same thing about that? Egads! The text whores have taken over and eliminated game play!

It's a movie that's a sequel to a game...... whoever came up with that idea should be shot just like the people who came up with the idea of Spirits Within.

[Laughing Hyena]

Who made up the rule that sequels have to stick to their formats no matter what?

As an artist (in fact I am) or creator: I do whatever I like. If I want to do a painting, I go for it. If I want to do a project with wood, I go for that too. The thing is: It really should not bother you. It is not the end of the world should this come out. If you want to dismiss it and say whatever happens in it doesn't happen in your FF7. Go right ahead. But you should not be trying to ruin it for everybody else.

[Arsinol]

Originally posted by Laughing Hyena
Who made up the rule that sequels have to stick to their formats no matter what?

As an artist (in fact I am) or creator: I do whatever I like. If I want to do a painting, I go for it. If I want to do a project with wood, I go for that too. The thing is: It really should not bother you. It is not the end of the world should this come out. If you want to dismiss it and say whatever happens in it doesn't happen in your FF7. Go right ahead. But you should not be trying to ruin it for everybody else.

Cool, so I can make the long awaited Picasso children's cartoon?

[James_xeno]

Originally posted by Arsinol
Cool, so I can make the long awaited Picasso children's cartoon? lol

[Master_Xellos]

Originally posted by Arsinol
It's a movie that's a sequel to a game...... whoever came up with that idea should be shot just like the people who came up with the idea of Spirits Within.

Why are ppl always dissin' SW?:bawling:

I thought it was actually a very good movie.:cheers:

[Captain Tylor]

Originally posted by sazae34
I really don't know what to think of the movie. I'll pick it up as soon as it comes out in Japan but I would really have prefered a FFVI movie. I don't want a movie telling me how VII ended, I liked having the option of coming up with my own ideas as to what happened at the end of the game.

I agree completely on this.. I think FF7 ended the way it did, because that's how Square wanted to rap it up~~~ as a mystery.

Although I'm interested to know what happened, the mystery is what makes it so fun!

The only thing I would really like is a mini-game of FF7, or just some kind of update...with no voice actors...PLEASE!

[Animexcel]

Just found out from a friend...

I hope this is a feature length movie, not one of those shorts. Final Fantasy VII got me into the FF games and it's still my favorite. I can't wait for the movie to come out! and yeah...I actually hope to see Tifa in her original...wardrobe.:blush:

One thing I hope is that this is not made by the same people who did Spirits Within/Final Flight of the Osirus. I know you think I'm crazy but it looks like the game movies are animated better; and also looked better, even though they both used motion capture. That's just my opinion...-o-; Though these look like the videogame style, so I probably may not have to worry about that

Everybody has their favorite Final Fantasy game. As another post said that the artist has a right to do what they want with their creation. ^_^ I don't dislike any FF games, it's just a game.

[Red XIV]

Sure. If the artist wants to throw away his creative integrity for a quick buck, that's his right. Doesn't mean I have to like it.

[Animexcel]

That's true too, you and other people don't have to like it.
Disney has that written all over their faces.
It all comes down to not hating it, but just ignore it.

[Nausicaa]

Sure. If the artist wants to throw away his creative integrity for a quick buck, that's his right. Doesn't mean I have to like it.

You're making blind assumptions. First, you assume that the artist is "throwing away his creatve integrity". Really, how do you know this? Do you know ANYTHING about it other than a few blurry screenshots? "...for a quick buck"? Again, how the hell would you know!? If there is one thing Square does not need, its a quick buck, they've got plenty of slow bucks. Chances are, this movie is going to cost more than any of the recent Final Fantasy games have... much more (see production costs for Spirits Within). There is no way Square is ignoring the fact that SW was, for the most part, a failure, and blowing hundreds of millions of dollars on another feature to "make a quick buck"; which, if SW was any indication, a crappy film won't do. Square has probably learned from their mistakes and understands that only quality features will sell to the niche audience its aiming for.

The fact is, this movie could be a masterpiece, you don't know. Assuming that its crap desinged to make money off of rabid fans is dumb.

[Arsinol]

Assuming that it's crap is justified because Square hasn't really proven in the past that they are masters of cinematography.

[Argent]

Check out these images (http://www.the-magicbox.com/game092903b.htm).

[Master_Xellos]

Originally posted by Argent
Check out these images (http://www.the-magicbox.com/game092903b.htm).

eeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww :dead: http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/cwm/3dlil/puke.gif

[bri_d]

Originally posted by Argent
Check out these images (http://www.the-magicbox.com/game092903b.htm).

I don't like those pictures at all........they don't seem right.:|

[Hitokiri Kuratosu]

Originally posted by bri_d
I don't like those pictures at all........they don't seem right.:|
It's probably because Sephiroth looks like Seymour crossed with some old lady, and Cloud looks like Tidus.

[Nausicaa]

Sephiroth looks a little nutty, but he should. I don't see how these characters could look any different and still be true to their characters.

EDIT: Look at Cloud's face. He looks NOTHING like Tidus.

[Siendra]

All they need to do is change Clouds hair and Sephiroth's lips. Then they should look alright.

But for now, it looks... (http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/cwm/3dlil/puke.gif)

[SeannyB]

Best Dragonball cosplay hairdo of all time (http://www2u.biglobe.ne.jp/~nanko/images/6787.jpg)! But it's still really silly! It's funny that they're attempting a direct visual conversion of bright-and-poppy anime designs into live-action (or live-action-esqe CG)... it clashes like f-ck. These screencaps alone made me go -> "no way! Aahahahahah"

EDIT: however, a feature-length film would be massively cool anyway. But for now it looks like a short production revolving around a single battle sequence

[Hitokiri Kuratosu]

Originally posted by Tyler_Durden
EDIT: Look at Cloud's face. He looks NOTHING like Tidus.
Are you kidding me? I'm not saying he looks exactly like Tidus, but there's still a similarity. Anyway, it doesn't matter. It's the substance that I'm a little more interested in at the moment.

[Animexcel]

Oh man, Sephiroth and his lips, they speak "So I'm not turte enough for the turtle club?"-o-;
Cloud's hair looks fine, it's translated well from the original, but not Sephiroth's.

[Tama Chan]

Unlike *some* people around here who hate the game for the sake of hating it :P I am glad to hear that Final Fantasy 7 is getting a CG movie.

[Wind]

Sephs lips do look a bit ... odd. But he looks very cool aside from that, he got a hair cut!

I think cloud looks awesome aswell.

[GimpyBoy]

Sephs eyes look gross too.

[Alundra]

Originally posted by James_xeno
DIE FFVII DIE.:dead:

You just don't learn, do you? Come up with something more inventive, like an actual opinion.

Anyways, I am actually excited for this since I am very intersed in animation and I'm going to college for stuff related to this. I am in great anitcipation even though I disliked the game itself, you have to admit that this looks pretty damn nice.

[Rahal]

ugh they really need to change sephiroths lips, doesnt look right at all.

[Kimchi]

vid
http://scorpius.spaceports.com/~dre...3_full2mins.avi

pics
http://www.dengekionline.com/news/2...9_05_sqex01.jpg

http://www.dengekionline.com/news/2...9_05_sqex02.jpg

http://www.dengekionline.com/news/2...9_05_sqex03.jpg

[AnimeRocks!]

Im looking really forward to this... just hope it turns out to be good. But i really wished they didnt make this into a movie.

Originally posted by James_xeno
DIE FFVII DIE.:dead:

Hey... if you're a FF hater then begone. Or you'll piss a lot of us off... one of them'll be me.

[SeannyB]

Originally posted by Kimchi
vid
http://scorpius.spaceports.com/~dre...3_full2mins.avi
pics
http://www.dengekionline.com/news/2...9_05_sqex01.jpg
http://www.dengekionline.com/news/2...9_05_sqex02.jpg
http://www.dengekionline.com/news/2...9_05_sqex03.jpg ****you! Not you, I mean, everything in general. The links are 404 :( :(

[evasivemanuvers]

Originally posted by AnimeRocks!
Hey... if you're a FF hater then begone. Or you'll piss a lot of us off... one of them'll be me.
Oh, oh well. Its not our problem.

[Sayaka]

Can I get a ****ing phoenix down up in here?

I would like to thank Square-Enix for this most wonderful situation.

<b>AND SEPHIROTH IS GOD</b>

[Master_Xellos]

Seph looks like an old hag...

Even the KH version with that silly wing looked better! :P :dead:

[Arsinol]

Seph looks like a 60 year old dominatrix prostitute and Cloud looks like a paler girlier Tidus.

[evasivemanuvers]

He looks like Dante earlier in the trailer before the firey town.
And those who think he looks like Tidus, how do you think they were able to take a badly made polygonal model with solid textures and make it into a Full 3d character? Im not suprised he looks like Tidus, Tidus never bothered me, I think this Cloud looks cool.

[Wind]

Originally posted by Kimchi
vid
http://scorpius.spaceports.com/~dre...3_full2mins.avi

pics
http://www.dengekionline.com/news/2...9_05_sqex01.jpg

http://www.dengekionline.com/news/2...9_05_sqex02.jpg

http://www.dengekionline.com/news/2...9_05_sqex03.jpg

can you get us new ones that work?

[Hitokiri Kuratosu]

I don't know why they felt the need to discard the anime look. I think it would have worked out better that way. Seeing as how that's they way many are accustomed to seeing these characters as. Personally, I liked the way they looked in Kingdom Hearts, they could have worked with those character designs. But I'll say it again, if the story works out to be entertaining and coherent, and it isn't totally pulled out of their ***, then it'll be okay.