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xxxYaoiLovrxxx
April 15th, 2006, 07:41 AM
Its too late for that, they already delayed it too much.
When they first licenced it i guess they just licenced the animation, and not the Japanese language. When they heard that people didnt like this, they changed it.
They also had to take FOREVER to add in soem extras. (sony doesnt know much about licencing Japanese stuff aparently)
I kinda figured that......sony has a bunch of nut jobs working there>.< *sighs* Oh well.....I'm just glad that the movie comes out this month!!!!
Animematt55
April 15th, 2006, 07:52 AM
I kinda figured that......sony has a bunch of nut jobs working there>.< *sighs* Oh well.....I'm just glad that the movie comes out this month!!!!
Does it? i have almost completely forgotten about the movie.
I guess thats what sony gets for take half a year to release it.
xxxYaoiLovrxxx
April 15th, 2006, 10:06 AM
Does it? i have almost completely forgotten about the movie.
I guess thats what sony gets for take half a year to release it.
Yeah the movie is "supposedly" to come out on the 25th of this month*crosses fingers*
Rahxephon91
April 17th, 2006, 07:29 PM
i know some are mad that Final order isnt on the DVD but,
from IGN.com
The Sneak Peek at Upcoming Final Fantasy VII Games delves into the following:
* Compilation of Final Fantasy VII
* Before Crisis
* Crisis Core
* Dirge of Cerberus
* Advent Children
Crisis Core is the upcoming PSP game, and it is introduced here through a cell-animated trailer that recalls moments from the series. There is no gameplay footage in the sneak peek, much to our disappointment.
If I do remember Final Order is a trailer for Crisis Core.
but then again it could just be a few scenes from Final order
Rahxephon91
April 18th, 2006, 05:53 PM
English AC clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw-MHZqKo00&search=Final%20Fantasy%20VII%20Advent%20 Children%20English%20
umm noo
Hara!
April 18th, 2006, 06:18 PM
English AC clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw-MHZqKo00&search=Final%20Fantasy%20VII%20Advent%20 Children%20English%20
umm noo
wow. fake?
Levon
April 18th, 2006, 06:38 PM
Its not fake.
Kadaj sounds good. Steve Cannon matches Kadaj, he has always been good with those type of crazy characters. I'm sure it will be better when I actually see the movie on dvd with 5.1 audio, YouTube has crap quality. However Rufus sounds generically dull, gah. Bad casting on his part, maybe when I watch it on DVD & listen to more than a few lines it will sound fine, I hope....
[edit]- IGN's DVD review: http://dvd.ign.com/articles/701/701928p1.html
Cupi~chan
April 18th, 2006, 07:17 PM
I can't believe they make us wait that long, and don' t include final order on the DVD!! I' m disappointed!! But at least, the movie is coming out this month, at last! FINALLY!
SonRyu
April 18th, 2006, 07:51 PM
Well, my store (fye) got them (DVD/UMD) in stock today (4/18), though I won't put them out for sale til 4/25... very tempted to take it home early, but "that's a big no-no" in retail :( Good thing we got a lot of them though; most will be purchased by employees and their friends first XD
MightyDustLoop
April 18th, 2006, 07:51 PM
I can't believe they make us wait that long, and don' t include final order on the DVD!! I' m disappointed!! But at least, the movie is coming out this month, at last! FINALLY!
What's so limited about Final Order if the Japanese could just import that OVA from another country? It makes perfect sense to me why this would be excluded, as much as it sucks.
_jwb388_
April 19th, 2006, 03:12 PM
I can't believe they make us wait that long, and don' t include final order on the DVD!! I' m disappointed!! But at least, the movie is coming out this month, at last! FINALLY!
Watch it on youtube. It's pretty good.
Danju
April 19th, 2006, 03:21 PM
Oh my God...that's horrible. I'm probably not going to buy it.
Rahxephon91
April 19th, 2006, 03:41 PM
Oh my God...that's horrible. I'm probably not going to buy it.
Whats horrible?
The Dub?-Then watch it in Japanese, its better
No Final Order-Your not missing much,but you can just download it.
I'll be getting it for free, so its all good.
MightyDustLoop
April 19th, 2006, 04:25 PM
Oh my God...that's horrible. I'm probably not going to buy it.
I'm at least going to wait for the final product and give it a fair try. Different is not worse. In fact, it's usually better sounding original than a soundalike (note various straight to video Disney sequels where they hire soundalikes and it doesn't help matters). But it's sure going to be awkward at first when we have these set voices in our minds thanks to the Japanese seiyuu.
Dubs work a lot better when they're heard first. It's rare that I do it, but as many movies and series as I've seen, it's still happened a couple dozen times, and I've actually had the reverse apply. "This is what the Japanese actors sound like? This is awful!" I do admit though that happens less frequently than the reverse, so when Japanese is the original language, it's usually the better performance, hence why I mostly view it that way when I have the choice to begin with.
In any case, I'm just happy it's confirmed the Japanese is on there. I know what I'm getting with that and it's worth the purchase thanks to the awesome visuals and low $15 price the two big bick and mortar store will have it at. Even if I do replace it in another higher end format inevitably, for 15 bucks, I'm game. I'm sure no one would mind a good dub though. IGN impressions on it seemed to be good. Not a whole lot of credibility always there though.
Animexcel
April 19th, 2006, 05:45 PM
in the dub, Barret sounds white xD
Hara!
April 19th, 2006, 05:54 PM
in the dub, Barret sounds white xD
I was kinda hoping it would sound like mr.T
Suki
April 19th, 2006, 06:04 PM
Kadaj sounds alot better in this clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2G8tYtwAQs&search=Final%20Fantasy%20VII%20Advent%20 Children%20English%20
Bezerker
April 19th, 2006, 06:16 PM
Got my hands on the dubbed dvd, havent watched it though. Im cringing in fear with the thought of Steven Jay Blum's murder of Vincent Valentine.
Levon
April 19th, 2006, 06:26 PM
in the dub, Barret sounds white xD
I don't believe you. He seems like he'd fit Barret perfect. That VA is black you know & sounds very much like a black guy with that voice. He is a pretty popular English VA, besides anime he does commercials, documentaries, TV, movies & video games.
http://animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=4331
Anyway, I'll give my final judgement when I hear the dub but from people that have seen the movie dubbed I hear its very good.
Animematt55
April 19th, 2006, 06:29 PM
Ok, that dub was horrible....they could barely match the mouth movements.
_jwb388_
April 19th, 2006, 08:41 PM
Ok, that dub was horrible....they could barely match the mouth movements.
Watch it in Jap then. Do you know how hard it is to match the voices with the orginal lips jap and with that cgi?
Levon
April 19th, 2006, 08:46 PM
they could barely match the mouth movements.
You know with anime many times the Japanese don't match the mouth movements as well as English dubs do. Whats that mean? Nothing.
Bezerker
April 20th, 2006, 07:02 AM
With anime basically all their is is mouth flapping. This movie, FFX & FFX-2 were all based on japanese i believe. So obviously the mouth movements wont match.
The dub wasnt too bad, though i still think Crispin Freeman should've been Vincent. Steven Jay Blum's voice still sounds the same, he just speeks softer than normal.
Jaymz Hetfield
April 20th, 2006, 07:11 AM
I assumed that they would rework the mouth movements.
_jwb388_
April 20th, 2006, 10:04 AM
I assumed that they would rework the mouth movements.
Did you like ffx's mouths movement? It's like the same with ac.
Animexcel
April 20th, 2006, 04:45 PM
I think they only reworked mouth movements in FFX-2 and Kingdom Hearts 2.
Rahxephon91
April 20th, 2006, 05:48 PM
eh I hardly notice the mouths things anyway. it really dosent take away from the overall experiance.
Levon
April 20th, 2006, 07:18 PM
Seriously, we have to admit there isn't a whole lot of dialog anyway. I mean its mostly just tons of intense action-_-;
Jaymz Hetfield
April 20th, 2006, 07:36 PM
Did you like ffx's mouths movement? It's like the same with ac.
I didn't play X, so I would have no idea.
Jaymz Hetfield
April 20th, 2006, 07:36 PM
I think they only reworked mouth movements in FFX-2 and Kingdom Hearts 2.
And Kingdom Hearts.
Rahxephon91
April 20th, 2006, 07:40 PM
Well I saw the first comercial today(if it was being handled by Square we would see them everywhere) and I'm getting very excited for its release. I'll but it for the eye candy and nothing else.
regus 5000
April 21st, 2006, 12:01 PM
ii wonder how many people will acctually buy it after seeing it already. i may buy it just so i dont need subtitles but so far its a strong no.
SSJ2Cloud
April 21st, 2006, 03:42 PM
Seriously, we have to admit there isn't a whole lot of dialog anyway. I mean its mostly just tons of intense action-_-;
yea i guess thats a good thing i mean ff7+movie+ lots of action= good movie
Levon
April 21st, 2006, 03:47 PM
ii wonder how many people will acctually buy it after seeing it already.
Most should. I know I'm buying it right away on Tuesday.
Bezerker
April 21st, 2006, 05:58 PM
I like how it includes a recap of the FF7 game, only problem is that all the text and whatnot is in japanese ><...
Even though ive already downloaded it, ill prolly end up buying it if Blockbuster gets it in next week. I Dont mind spending the $10.
regus 5000
April 21st, 2006, 06:07 PM
i was reading that someone got a leaked copy of the english version and uploaded it on google video. soon after square got word of it, asked google to remove it, hunted down the guy that did it, and made him pay an undisclosed fee. ill have to wait a month or two before i try to "get it"
Bezerker
April 21st, 2006, 07:56 PM
Some stores have had it in stock for a couple of weeks, though they legally shouldn't have been selling them. Companies like Best Buy, Circuit City, even Animenation sell dvds before their "street date" and dont get punished for it so my guess is that its not a law thats really enforced. Though selling it and offering it for free illegally are two diff things.
_jwb388_
April 22nd, 2006, 04:47 PM
Whats up with the bonus disc at ebgames? Is it real or are they retarded and just tdiscribed the contents of the 2nd disc?
Bezerker
April 22nd, 2006, 08:10 PM
Yea, EBgames/Gamestop have a 3rd disk. It says all thats on it is "in depth" interviews with the VA cast. Not really worth the extra $10-15 in my opinion
regus 5000
April 24th, 2006, 06:29 PM
i cant wait till tomorrow. even though i wont be 'buying' it, im still pretty exited
_jwb388_
April 25th, 2006, 07:52 AM
Mine just shipped for $20 total. I choose 2-3day shipping and I can't wait.
Animexcel
April 25th, 2006, 09:37 AM
Yea, EBgames/Gamestop have a 3rd disk. It says all thats on it is "in depth" interviews with the VA cast. Not really worth the extra $10-15 in my opinion
no kidding, i don't think the english VAs are too "in-depth" with their characters lol
i'm getting the dvd today.
Levon
April 25th, 2006, 12:20 PM
Mixed results with the dub, I thought it was okay. Some voices were good & others bad. To my surprise I thought Cloud was dubbed the best.
Bezerker
April 25th, 2006, 12:43 PM
no kidding, i don't think the english VAs are too "in-depth" with their characters lol
Yea, i can imagine Steven Jay Blum's interview "Hah, i get all these projects and do the same voice for all of them, its the easist job ever."
Levon
April 25th, 2006, 12:44 PM
Yea, i can imagine Steven Jay Blum's interview "Hah, i get all these projects and do the same voice for all of them, its the easist job ever."
He doesn't use the same voice all the time....Just most of the time-_-;
I thought he was good as Vincent.
Jae Hoon
April 25th, 2006, 06:39 PM
I liked the dub voices, really they pretty much fit. Complaining about them really is nitpicking and really just looking for something to complain about.
Rahxephon91
April 25th, 2006, 06:43 PM
There all fine to me. Its just Sephs voice dosent sound good to me. Thats really the only porblem I have with the dub.
Levon
April 25th, 2006, 06:49 PM
Damn, I thought Sephiroth sounded amazing & one of the best. He sounded very cool.
Jae Hoon
April 25th, 2006, 06:53 PM
The only complaint I had was the whole poll vault sequence. I understand the point of it, it was just kind of lame.
ffl
April 25th, 2006, 08:58 PM
I got the DVD today and watched the dub and the "Making Of" featurette. Watched that recap of VII too.^_^
I thought the dub was pretty good. The only voice which I considered to be really weak was the guy with the really long hair in Kadaj's gang. He just didn't get the right tone out. When he was on the bike in the first scene, it was almost like he was whispering to Cloud... while they were on motorbikes.XD Loz was okay. Kadaj was really good though. Cloud's VA was really good too. Steven Blum did a good job, although I would've preferred him as Sephiroth, but I guess they wanted him to do the voice for Vincent in the upcoming games as well. Tifa... was the same as the Japanese VA. I could almost swear that her battle cries were near exactly the same as the Japanese VA... which isn't really a good thing, because I didn't really like how the Japanese VA did that part. Rufus was okay. As, I already mentioned, I would've preferred something different with Sephiroth. It didn't seem to get a deep villainous tone of voice across. It sounded more gravelly and cool rather than villainous.
Anyway, the "Making Of" featurette was nice and you can really see how much thought and effort they put into this endeavor. Looking forward to any other CG movies, adapted from Square games, that are made my this director.
I think I'll watch the subbed version some other time, because it seemed as though some sound effects in the english track were muffled or just removed. Oh well. It was a good watch though, again.^_^
And regus5000, just buy the DVD.=P Got it at Best Buy for $16. Collector's Edition. Even though they had it marked at $22 and had a special in which you could get FF: The Spirits Within along with it for a total of $25. Hehe, fortunately, I opted NOT to do that.XD
_jwb388_
April 25th, 2006, 09:29 PM
The only complaint I had was the whole poll vault sequence. I understand the point of it, it was just kind of lame.
i didn't find that scene lam at all. It would be lame if cloud just started flying up there or starts to run up buildings.
gameoffreak8
April 26th, 2006, 09:13 AM
I bought FF7:AC yesterday and watched it at midnight. It's very good. The battles are totally awesome. The dub voices are alright to me. I am very surprised that Rufus is alive. I thought he was killed by Diamond Weapon.
Levon
April 26th, 2006, 09:40 AM
I am very surprised that Rufus is alive. I thought he was killed by Diamond Weapon.
I'm surprised he is in such great shape. I'd expect him to be all burned up like Shishio from Kenshin or something-_-;
_jwb388_
April 26th, 2006, 10:03 AM
I'm surprised he is in such great shape. I'd expect him to be all burned up like Shishio from Kenshin or something-_-;
He survived the explosion and got out before the building came down, that was just :ph34r:
He was in great shape, even with stigma, when he fought Kadaj.
ffl
April 26th, 2006, 11:47 AM
It must be the suit.^_^
Animematt55
April 26th, 2006, 01:13 PM
I got the DVD today and watched the dub and the "Making Of" featurette. Watched that recap of VII too.^_^
I thought the dub was pretty good. The only voice which I considered to be really weak was the guy with the really long hair in Kadaj's gang. He just didn't get the right tone out. When he was on the bike in the first scene, it was almost like he was whispering to Cloud... while they were on motorbikes.XD Loz was okay. Kadaj was really good though. Cloud's VA was really good too. Steven Blum did a good job, although I would've preferred him as Sephiroth, but I guess they wanted him to do the voice for Vincent in the upcoming games as well. Tifa... was the same as the Japanese VA. I could almost swear that her battle cries were near exactly the same as the Japanese VA... which isn't really a good thing, because I didn't really like how the Japanese VA did that part. Rufus was okay. As, I already mentioned, I would've preferred something different with Sephiroth. It didn't seem to get a deep villainous tone of voice across. It sounded more gravelly and cool rather than villainous.
Anyway, the "Making Of" featurette was nice and you can really see how much thought and effort they put into this endeavor. Looking forward to any other CG movies, adapted from Square games, that are made my this director.
I think I'll watch the subbed version some other time, because it seemed as though some sound effects in the english track were muffled or just removed. Oh well. It was a good watch though, again.^_^
And regus5000, just buy the DVD.=P Got it at Best Buy for $16. Collector's Edition. Even though they had it marked at $22 and had a special in which you could get FF: The Spirits Within along with it for a total of $25. Hehe, fortunately, I opted NOT to do that.XD
From the Dub voices i have heard, they were all bad, especially Kadaj.
What was in the "Making of"? Did they go with what the Japanee did? Or did they do the "Making of the American Dub" type stuff?
_jwb388_
April 26th, 2006, 01:16 PM
From the Dub voices i have heard, they were all bad, especially Kadaj.
What was in the "Making of"? Did they go with what the Japanee did? Or did they do the "Making of the American Dub" type stuff?
I hate it how people hate the dubs. It's a persons voice get over it.
I watched the making thing and it has all japanese except a guy that did tattoos.
Animematt55
April 26th, 2006, 01:19 PM
I hate it how people hate the dubs. It's a persons voice get over it.
I watched the making thing and it has all japanese except a guy that did tattoos.
Tattoos?? WTF
And why not hate the dub if it is bad? Like i said before, from what i saw, they couldnt even match the mouth flaps very well at all.
_jwb388_
April 26th, 2006, 01:27 PM
Tattoos?? WTF
And why not hate the dub if it is bad? Like i said before, from what i saw, they couldnt even match the mouth flaps very well at all.
If it bothers you so much watch it is subs.
regus 5000
April 26th, 2006, 01:50 PM
i very glad i didnt buy this movie. the original was way better thean the dub. especially the beggining narration. the girl was pausing like she didnt know the lines and what was up with that "anyway".... god it was bad.
dillydally shillyshally
Levon
April 26th, 2006, 02:12 PM
I agree so much about the narration!!! Marlene sounded very bad, durring some lines she sounded happy or something. In the movie Marlene sounded fine though, I thought she was at the same level of the Japanese VA, they both sound similar.
ffl
April 26th, 2006, 04:00 PM
Yeah, both of the VAs for Marlene were at the same level of experience it seems. She came across as awkward in both versions, for me, anyway.
The DVD does have the original Japanese track as well as the English track. The 'dilly-dallying' thing makes sense, but I've just never heard it used in that way before. I guess I've only learned the evolution of it rather than the basis for 'dilly-dallying'. Anyway, it was a bit weird, but makes sense.
Also, if you watch the Japanese track and actually watch the mouth movements, they sometimes don't match with the voice either. It's not perfect on either end, in that respect.
NGT
April 26th, 2006, 06:43 PM
Spoilers ahead
Just saw AC and I have to say it was pretty good. My only complaint is the lack of character development. Just 20 minutes more of character development and this movie would be perfect. I felt that Cloud and Tifa could have used some more development with their relationship. I also wanted more with Cloud and Sephiroth. After all that time I thought that Cloud would say something to Seph. Something about Aeris. Or Seph could have taunted Cloud a little about Aeris. It was good though and I liked the voice acting accept for Kadaje and Red.
And what was up with the wolf is that supposed to be a representation of Zack.
Animematt55
April 26th, 2006, 06:50 PM
What is so godo about Kadaj's voice acting? I thought it was pretty bad. It is hard to explain how though. He just didnt sound as....insane.
Levon
April 26th, 2006, 07:04 PM
Steve Cannon is one of my favorite VAs but Kadaj is far from his best, I still thought he was very good in that role. But his best roles are Kamui(X TV), Harry McDougall(Outlaw Star), Chris(Scrapped Princess), Daisuke(Heat Guy J), Ryu(Argento Soma), Seabook(Gundam F91), Shiro(Gundam the 08th MS Team), Shiki(Tsukihime), etc.
animeotaku99
April 26th, 2006, 07:27 PM
Kadajs japanese VA kciks ***, perfect for his character
Animexcel
April 26th, 2006, 08:06 PM
I think the original Japanese mouth movements didn't sync with with some of their Japanese dialogue because they were reworking the lines, you could see in the deleted scenes; alot were just line changes.
LOSTyears
April 26th, 2006, 09:00 PM
Thought the dub was pretty good.
I liked Cloud and Reno's. Sephiroth's impressed me the most, it suited him so well.
The only one I wasn't feeling was Rude's, Crispin's voice for some reason didn't click with me and that character.
I'll check out the extras sometime this weekend.
Levon
April 26th, 2006, 09:25 PM
Rude doesn't have much lines-_-; He isn't much of a talker.
LOSTyears
April 26th, 2006, 10:07 PM
True ^_^ But the voice just didn't fit with me. Maybe I was just expecting something more smooth and deeper.
Think there were a few characters with less lines than him.
ffl
April 26th, 2006, 10:07 PM
Just saw AC and I have to say it was pretty good. My only complaint is the lack of character development. Just 20 minutes more of character development and this movie would be perfect. I felt that Cloud and Tifa could have used some more development with their relationship. I also wanted more with Cloud and Sephiroth. After all that time I thought that Cloud would say something to Seph. Something about Aeris. Or Seph could have taunted Cloud a little about Aeris. It was good though and I liked the voice acting accept for Kadaje and Red.
And what was up with the wolf is that supposed to be a representation of Zack.
There was character development, but it just continues on from the game. Also, Cloud didn't need to say anything about Aeris because he had already opened his heart up about that during the game. If you remember, he says alot of stuff to Sephiroth at the crater.
Sephiroth did taunt Cloud though. When he asked Cloud if he wanted him to take away more of those who are precious to him. That was hearkening back to Aeris as well as threatening the friends that he does have.
The wolf is supposed to be his guilt, I think. It follows him where ever he goes and it's most prominent in the places where he felt that he failed someone. Zack at his Buster Sword, Aeris at the Ancient place. Of course, his guilt also followed him in his dreams too.:P
_jwb388_
April 27th, 2006, 02:35 AM
I also spotted the wolf where kadaj took the children.
Spike
April 27th, 2006, 04:44 AM
The movie was awesome people who cares about this sub vs. dub stuff just say the movie was good and stop complaining over small stuff.
NGT
April 27th, 2006, 11:24 AM
Yeah I know there was character devlepment in the game, but I felt that Cloud and Tifa needed a bit more since that was left unanswered in the game they just had two scenes together.
Animematt55
April 27th, 2006, 12:59 PM
Yeah I know there was character devlepment in the game, but I felt that Cloud and Tifa needed a bit more since that was left unanswered in the game they just had two scenes together.
Arent they like...married? Cause TIfa does have a ring.
About the wolf. I always thought that it was Zach or Aeris....
_jwb388_
April 27th, 2006, 12:59 PM
Yeah I know there was character devlepment in the game, but I felt that Cloud and Tifa needed a bit more since that was left unanswered in the game they just had two scenes together.
It might be answered in digre.
Rahxephon91
April 27th, 2006, 01:30 PM
Doubtful as Vincent seems to be the primary focus. They most likly will only talk about his role in the story. For now I think Cloud's story is done.
_jwb388_
April 27th, 2006, 01:51 PM
Doubtful as Vincent seems to be the primary focus. They most likly will only talk about his role in the story. For now I think Cloud's story is done.
Yeah but cloud and tifa are in digre but I know they wont do anything to help their relationship.
NGT
April 27th, 2006, 04:40 PM
Yeah I wondered about the ring. Are they engaged or married? Or is it just there? They did do a close up shot on it in one scene.
_jwb388_
April 27th, 2006, 04:42 PM
The ring is on her right hand if I remember. Unless there is another one on the left.
Some kids in our school have rings on the left ring finger.
Cloud's new victory pose http://cloudvictorymove.ytmnd.com/
Jae Hoon
April 27th, 2006, 06:22 PM
Cloud and Tifa are an item, Cloud makes refrences to his "family" in AC.
HitokiriShadow
April 28th, 2006, 06:49 PM
Okay, I finally watched Advent Children.
My opinion? To summarize what had said in the ANN thread (in response to the review): "oooh, shiny"
Looks great, but the plot stunk. The action scenes were looked beautiful, although they frequently were ridiculously over-the-top (see the end of the Bahamut fight).
But it wasn't all bad, though. Cloud got some more character development and the his issues with Aerith's death where more or less resolved. So now he and Tifa can finally get together. And I enjoyed Reno and Rude's scenes.
On a side note, didn't Tseng die in the game? I thought the Sephiroth clone offed him in the Temple of the Ancients.
Rahxephon91
April 28th, 2006, 07:26 PM
heres ANN's review of AC http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/reviews/display.php?id=859
I really dont argree with giving the story a D. The guys problem seems to be that it is only understandable to fans of the game. It is but really whats the big deal with that? I'm not saying the story is great but its not that bad.
ReiSama25
April 29th, 2006, 05:29 AM
I liked it. The plot was a little confusing, but it's basically Cloud still heartbroken over Aeris, and some weird three want to restore Sephiroth. I thought it was an okay sequel to the game, since the ending to the game made me sad. I never really understood where the stigma was from though. I'm happy Cloud let go of Aeris, but like Tifa said, "She never really left us at all."
Oh, I thought the Bahamut fight was cool. I mean, how else do you fight a flying dragon?
Jae Hoon
April 29th, 2006, 05:51 AM
The plot was fine, people just trying to find something to complain about basically.
They could have made a AC just FF 7 in movie form and people would have complained that the clouds werent puffy enough, just to make sure they had something to complain about.
_jwb388_
April 29th, 2006, 06:04 AM
http://chickenbutt.ytmnd.com/
I actually like Aeris more than Tifa.
xxxYaoiLovrxxx
April 29th, 2006, 02:59 PM
I just got my hands on the dvd today...and I LOVED it!!!!!
regus 5000
April 29th, 2006, 04:46 PM
has anyone else seen dirge of cirburus. story wise i was completly lost but the visuals were fantastic (well not so much fantastic as a realy good cinematic in a game
_jwb388_
April 29th, 2006, 06:00 PM
I saw that one where they are droping out of airplanes and stuff. Looked like advent children.
HitokiriShadow
April 29th, 2006, 07:24 PM
The plot was fine, people just trying to find something to complain about basically.
They could have made a AC just FF 7 in movie form and people would have complained that the clouds werent puffy enough, just to make sure they had something to complain about.
I thought about it a bit more and the plot wasn't terrible, it was just mediocre. Overall, the movie was great, I just thought the plot could have been better.
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Perhaps people missed it after reading what I thought of the plot, but can anyone answer my question? I thought Tseng died in FF7 in the Temple of the Ancients. How is he alive? Did I miss something?
ffl
April 29th, 2006, 07:38 PM
Didn't he crawl out of the temple when the party first arrives there? I would assume that he just got up and left at some point then.
Levon
April 29th, 2006, 07:47 PM
I don't remember him dieing, just being hurt badly at the entrance.
HitokiriShadow
April 29th, 2006, 07:50 PM
Didn't he crawl out of the temple when the party first arrives there? I would assume that he just got up and left at some point then.
I thought he was fatally wounded and croaked after you spoke to him. It's been a long time since I played the game, so my memory of it is a bit fuzzy.
_jwb388_
April 29th, 2006, 08:33 PM
He probally did something like Reno and Rude when they blew themselves up. It's a Turk thing.
Hara!
April 29th, 2006, 08:47 PM
He probally did something like Reno and Rude when they blew themselves up. It's a Turk thing.
You know, I never noticed that...
HitokiriShadow
April 29th, 2006, 08:52 PM
You may have a point there. But did Rude and Reno appear again after they blew themselves up in the movie? I didn't see them.
_jwb388_
April 29th, 2006, 08:55 PM
When rufus shinra was being recovered by aeris's rain. They were right beside him with tseng and Elena.
HitokiriShadow
April 29th, 2006, 08:57 PM
Okay, I just missed that.
_jwb388_
April 29th, 2006, 09:07 PM
If it weren't for Reno and Rude, I probally won't like the movie as much as I did.
http://runreno.ytmnd.com/
HitokiriShadow
April 29th, 2006, 09:25 PM
Yeah, those two were great. I loved their scenes.
Xavon Wrentaile
April 30th, 2006, 09:42 AM
Suvari though....let's just say I got a much better impression when it was Mandy Moore doing Aerith's voice.
Interestingly, Mena does a much better job (IMO, natch) in Advent Children than she did in KH2.
But Mandy Moore was still better.
_jwb388_
April 30th, 2006, 10:52 AM
In kh2 she was just horible. She gets a passing grade in AC.
Quattro Ninja
April 30th, 2006, 02:09 PM
Great movie, the CG absolutely blew me away.
The Japanese voices were great, and I can't bring myself to watch the dub.
HitokiriShadow
April 30th, 2006, 09:18 PM
In kh2 she was just horible. She gets a passing grade in AC.
I guess its a good thing for you that Aeris didn't have a whole lot of speaking parts in KH2. While she wasn't great in KH2, I didn't think she was that bad either.
xxxYaoiLovrxxx
May 2nd, 2006, 04:50 PM
Great movie, the CG absolutely blew me away.
The Japanese voices were great, and I can't bring myself to watch the dub.
The movie was more enjoyable in Japanese...but to tell ya the truth it wasn't that bad in English...don't be afraid...I thought that I was gonna have a heart attack watching it dubbed but it turned out to be ok^_^
Texcap
May 3rd, 2006, 08:39 AM
For what it's worth, here's a perspective on Advent Children from someone who has viewed FFVII (and the FF franchise) from afar to some degree -- at least to this point.
I have nothing but respect for the original game thanks to all I've seen, read, and heard about it -- and there's been no shortage of material on any of these aspects over the years so I've got a fairly good frame of reference for the basics and the characters. I proudly own the game, but as of yet I've not been able to devote the time to jumping into it (while it may sound odd that I'm not one of the 9 million+ folks that have played it, I was away from home and concentrating on other things during it's initial release and I'm backlogged as it is with games that I missed during that period). I've long had the jist of the story spoiled for me, so when I saw the advertisements for AC I figured that I'd better not miss out on something that looked as cool, and served to be a big "thanks" to the fans from the FFVII creators, which is something I'd like to support when I can.
Anyhow, I recieved the movie on the day of it's release, and I wasn't dissappointed in the least -- and that's without a complete context for all of the details, easter eggs, and references to the original game (though I wasn't completely lost in that regard by any means). My favorite aspects of the film, easily, were the interactions between Cloud and Tifa, in what have got to be some of the most complex, heart-wrenching and heart-warming scenes I've had the good pleasure of watching in an animated feature. It's a rare case when a feature prompts me to review scenes over and over, but I've watched those scenes several times now in both Japanese and English so that I could appreciate all that went into them, and I've taken something more away from it each time. There's a lot of deep craft in there, and I figured it worth mentioning. Tifa, in particular, stole the show in a lot of respects for me.
Overall, I was very impressed, and it's made me that much "hungrier" to get the chance to sit back and play the game itself, which I hope to do sooner rather than later. In the meantime, all kinds of good stuff in AC to continue to enjoy...
...so far as I'm concerned.
[Edit: Curiously, does anyone have the Japanese version of the "Shilly Shally" dialogue/quote that Tifa uses during one of the scenes between them nearby, I'd like to get that down on print if anyone's run accross it. Regardless, thanks.]
HitokiriShadow
May 3rd, 2006, 10:26 AM
I think it was something like "suru-suru, zuru-zuru". It was mentioned in another forum.
Here is the post from ANN:
It's the translator's chosen equivalent of the term in Japanese: "Suru-suru zuru-zuru" (did I put that right?) Essentially, it probably means exactly the same thing but was just put into a different form so it would make sense to the English-speaking audience (I cannot confirm the meaning because I don't speak fluent Japanese).
_jwb388_
May 3rd, 2006, 11:34 AM
http://tifazuru.ytmnd.com/
NGT
May 3rd, 2006, 12:16 PM
Yeah the Tifa and Cloud parts are one reason why I like the movie so much. I was always a CloudxTifa fan.
xxxYaoiLovrxxx
May 3rd, 2006, 12:53 PM
Yeah the Tifa and Cloud parts are one reason why I like the movie so much. I was always a CloudxTifa fan.
Some of the Tifa and Cloud parts I didn't understand....but I always thought that those two should be a couple as well^_^
Nano
May 3rd, 2006, 01:47 PM
Clouds eyes where blue in the film but in the game they where meant to have a greenish glow if I'm not mistaken.
I didn't see a glow of any sort, even if it was a blue glow it wasn't there.
xxxYaoiLovrxxx
May 3rd, 2006, 02:00 PM
Clouds eyes where blue in the film but in the game they where meant to have a greenish glow if I'm not mistaken.
I didn't see a glow of any sort, even if it was a blue glow it wasn't there.
You do have a point there...he's eyes were plain blue....but it was still pretty^_^
Nano
May 3rd, 2006, 02:10 PM
It's the small things like that, that can spoil a film.
I thought the fact that Barret had found oil and he had a robotic hand was cool.
I've seen the replicas of the swords, Clouds and Sephiroths look really good. But Sephiroths weighs 14 pound!
I always wanted Cloud to end up with Aeris because she tried, Tifa just stood around and did nothing even in the film with all the competition gone she didn't do anything.
And her name is Aeris not Aerith, just that some people don't know that.
NGT
May 3rd, 2006, 02:31 PM
It's the small things like that, that can spoil a film.
I thought the fact that Barret had found oil and he had a robotic hand was cool.
I've seen the replicas of the swords, Clouds and Sephiroths look really good. But Sephiroths weighs 14 pound!
I always wanted Cloud to end up with Aeris because she tried, Tifa just stood around and did nothing even in the film with all the competition gone she didn't do anything.
And her name is Aeris not Aerith, just that some people don't know that.
Actually it's Aerith, but there was some translation mistakes and it came out to be Aeris either is acceptable though. Yeah I was also wondering why his eyes didn't glow.
I always felt Tifa and Cloud had a better relationship than Aeris and Cloud. I don't know I always saw Aeris as a crush to Cloud while I felt Tifa cared alot more about him. I think that one of the reasons why Cloud feels so strong about Aeris is because he feels responsible about her death. And it does seem like Cloud and Tifa got together in Advent Children, but it is still not official. I think the creators wanted it to be able to go either way.
Nano
May 3rd, 2006, 02:38 PM
I guess your right, I just looked in the manual for her name and it said Aeris.
I call her Aeris because it sounds better.
I always wondered why didn't her feelings change when she found out wasn't the real cloud I am right, right? I haven't played it in a while so I'm not sure on the complicated of the plot.
NGT
May 3rd, 2006, 02:53 PM
I guess your right, I just looked in the manual for her name and it said Aeris.
I call her Aeris because it sounds better.
I always wondered why didn't her feelings change when she found out wasn't the real cloud I am right, right? I haven't played it in a while so I'm not sure on the complicated of the plot.
I think Aeris sounds better than Aerith too. I'm not sure I get what your asking but I think you mean why didn't Aeris feelings change when Cloud found out that some of his memories are really fake. Well Cloud still pretty much acts the same way he does when he finds his real memories, so I don't think that her feelings would change for him.
ffl
May 3rd, 2006, 03:54 PM
The 'zuruzuru' thing was just to show that he was dragging along and not dealing with anything.
Animexcel
May 3rd, 2006, 04:22 PM
It's the small things like that, that can spoil a film.
I thought the fact that Barret had found oil and he had a robotic hand was cool.
I've seen the replicas of the swords, Clouds and Sephiroths look really good. But Sephiroths weighs 14 pound!
I always wanted Cloud to end up with Aeris because she tried, Tifa just stood around and did nothing even in the film with all the competition gone she didn't do anything.
And her name is Aeris not Aerith, just that some people don't know that.
Hahaa, enough of this ticky-tac.
Oh I saw that glow a couple times in the Forgotten Capital.
Aeris(usa)/Aerith(jpn) liked Zack first since Cloud reminded her of him. Cloud and Tifa were childhood friends, I think they look good together. I think Tifa did enough in the film.
Cupi~chan
May 3rd, 2006, 09:07 PM
Some people think that Tifa and Cloud kinda got together in the movie by the end.
I really think they didn' t. THeir relationship will stay like this for a long time at least: Tifa caring a lot for Cloud, Cloud caring but not really showing anything of his feelings.
Some people can actually live love like that for a very long time. I admire people who does. Tifa' s so patient and understanding. Better than Aerith. I don' t like Aerith with Cloud. I don' t think they go well together.
JoeStrummer
May 3rd, 2006, 09:13 PM
I finally got to watch it a few days ago heh, the whole thing was eye candy, sure, but I liked it. I think I just really like the Turks heh, Rude is wicked
MightyDustLoop
May 3rd, 2006, 09:20 PM
I like Aerith myself. That's basically what we called her before the game came out in America.
Cloud and Tifa are an eventual couple though. They won't commit due to the fans, but it's at least implied. If you think about it too, Aerith's initial interest in Cloud derives from his resemblance to her former boyfriend. Some may see her as the ideal woman and perfect love interest, but no ideal relationship should begin that way.
Nano
May 4th, 2006, 08:44 AM
I forgot to say that the best thing in the film(in my opinion and beside the fight scenes) was Rude and Reno, I mean talk about much needed comic relief.
_jwb388_
May 4th, 2006, 10:03 AM
For Cloud's eyes, Doesn't the green in the mean the jenova cells in him?
Nano
May 4th, 2006, 10:15 AM
I don't know, I thought it was a sign of working near mako energy ie the lifestream energy.
NGT
May 4th, 2006, 05:09 PM
If they are glowing it means they were exposed to mako.
_jwb388_
May 4th, 2006, 05:22 PM
At the end of the game cloud has blue eyes. I think Aeris healled him or something.
NGT
May 4th, 2006, 06:19 PM
They change? I didn't notice. But yeah Cloud's Jenova cells were removed or destroyed by Aeris in her church.
ffl
May 4th, 2006, 10:11 PM
Wow. Good eye.:) I never noticed that AT ALL.:D
_jwb388_
May 5th, 2006, 02:47 AM
I think they wanted to tell you but you had to see it. When you defeat the final seph Cloud will open his eyes and they will be blue.
Nano
May 5th, 2006, 06:19 AM
You know that grey haired guy who turns into sephiroth, when he equips the materia he uses to summon Bahamet the colour of it is a greenish blue. When the colour of summon materia is red.
ffl
May 5th, 2006, 10:05 AM
I think they wanted to tell you but you had to see it. When you defeat the final seph Cloud will open his eyes and they will be blue.
You mean in the game?:huh: I thought you meant the movie.
xxxYaoiLovrxxx
May 5th, 2006, 11:50 AM
I don't know why cat sith had a scottish accent though....
I noticed that too..that was kinda bizzare....
_jwb388_
May 5th, 2006, 01:28 PM
No, his eyes are definitely blue before that, you get a good look at them when Cloud visits Rufus. Right before he leaves you see them.
Just face it, it's one of those stupid mistakes.
It's not a mistake untill it's confirmed.
You could have just edited your post instead of finding stupid ways to bring up your post count.
Nano
May 5th, 2006, 01:41 PM
Clouds hair looked different too.................
_jwb388_
May 5th, 2006, 01:48 PM
It's two years after.
Nano
May 5th, 2006, 01:51 PM
Funny how they change these things isin't it? Also funny how his hair didn't change from when he was sixteen to when he was twenty. Which is four years but it changes drastically in two.
_jwb388_
May 5th, 2006, 01:56 PM
No it's not funny. He kept the same style for along time and then switched. OMG Tifa changed her clothes:doh:
Nano
May 5th, 2006, 01:58 PM
I wish she hadn't, they don't display her assets as well, but Barret's face had changed quite a bit.
And did it say anywhere that he had changed his hair style? If it didn't then you can't know that.
Haruhi
May 5th, 2006, 09:07 PM
NANO : Do NOT double post again, or you will be banned.
You've been warned.
Rahxephon91
May 5th, 2006, 09:45 PM
I wish she hadn't, they don't display her assets as well, but Barret's face had changed quite a bit.
And did it say anywhere that he had changed his hair style? If it didn't then you can't know that.
If by assets you mean her boobs. Well I think it would look stupid to have those gaint things in the movie. The charcters are more realistic in the movie. As for Barret, duh everyone looks diffrent. Not only does the game have a diffrent art style but also technology has increassed. Really do you want a less deatailed Barret?
As for Cloud. Its just a diffrent desgin. Heck though, in two years its not hard to belive that Cloud changed his hair. The movie dosent need to tell you that, its common sense.
_jwb388_
May 6th, 2006, 03:16 AM
I was trying to tell him that but he just wants to post stupid things.
Told ya not to double-triple-quad post.
^You don't have to respond to this.
brolylssj95
May 6th, 2006, 04:19 PM
how come when i got this movie on dvd and psp my friends bro was like only people who have never played ff7 like the movie i mean ive played and beaten but still do any of you agree with this
Rahxephon91
May 6th, 2006, 04:29 PM
how come when i got this movie on dvd and psp my friends bro was like only people who have never played ff7 like the movie i mean ive played and beaten but still do any of you agree with this
What are you asking?
_jwb388_
May 6th, 2006, 04:40 PM
how come when i got this movie on dvd and psp my friends bro was like only people who have never played ff7 like the movie i mean ive played and beaten but still do any of you agree with this
How come when I got this on psp, my freind's brother said," Only people who have never played ff7 like this movie." On the other hand I have played and beaten 7, but do any of you agree on this?
Rahxephon91
May 6th, 2006, 04:50 PM
Oh, because its eye candy.
xxxYaoiLovrxxx
May 6th, 2006, 06:15 PM
How come when I got this on psp, my freind's brother said," Only people who have never played ff7 like this movie." On the other hand I have played and beaten 7, but do any of you agree on this?
Ok...I've played the game and beaten as well...and I LOVE this movie!!!! I disagree....but then again it depends on the person who watches the movie.
brolylssj95
May 6th, 2006, 07:24 PM
well i just found out from my friend that his bro could never beat ff7 so hes begun dissing the series of ff because of that reason so more or so its just spite and hes a moran and he says hes beaten every ff game so you guys tell me is he an idiot or do you agree
_jwb388_
May 6th, 2006, 07:37 PM
It's your opinion not ours. We don't even know him.
brolylssj95
May 6th, 2006, 07:43 PM
i guess but question do you think ff7 remake for ps3 will be any good
_jwb388_
May 8th, 2006, 10:48 AM
i guess but question do you think ff7 remake for ps3 will be any good
If they do remake one yes. It will be like FF7 but playable again.
On to the total times I've watched AC: 6times since release day.
NGT
May 8th, 2006, 10:58 AM
Wow AC was good, but you should watch other movies.
_jwb388_
May 8th, 2006, 11:00 AM
Wow AC was good, but you should watch other movies.
Shut up or I'm a getting Chuck Norris over here and pwning your butt.
NGT
May 8th, 2006, 11:04 AM
Shut up or I'm a getting Chuck Norris over here and pwning your butt.
I hate you, but seriously you do need to see more movies.
_jwb388_
May 8th, 2006, 11:30 AM
AC is the only one I like to watch.
NGT
May 8th, 2006, 11:37 AM
Okay... thats kinda sad.
On topic Who was Tifa refering to when she said " Why do we have to lose out to a memory?/ Which is it a memory or us? was she refering to Sephiroth, Aeris, or the guilt that Cloud has for Aeris.
_jwb388_
May 8th, 2006, 11:41 AM
I'm pretty sure she's reffering to his past memory. Like the events from 7 and stuff.
NGT
May 8th, 2006, 11:43 AM
You mean his guilt of the past.
_jwb388_
May 8th, 2006, 12:07 PM
Yeah but not all of it is his guilt of Aeris because he saw Zack die too.
NGT
May 8th, 2006, 05:06 PM
I don't know I just watched it again and it seems like she is asking for him to pick her or Aeris. Right after she says that he goes "But I let you die." Also in the deleted scene after Tifa says that sshe then says "There I said it." Like it was a question she had wanted to ask him for a long time but he avoided it.
Rain
May 8th, 2006, 05:12 PM
I don't know I just watched it again and it seems like she is asking for him to pick her or Aeris. Right after she says that he goes "But I let you die." Also in the deleted scene after Tifa says that sshe then says "There I said it." Like it was a question she had wanted to ask him for a long time but he avoided it.
I think his guilt for Aeris and Zack will forever remain with him. Those are just things one can never get over or forget. I don't think Tifa was asking him to pick between her or Aeris. Aeris only liked Cloud 'cause he reminded her of Zack in the first place anyways. ;S And even if she did get him to choose, he'd pick Aeris over Tifa anyday. (even if she's dead)
NGT
May 8th, 2006, 05:29 PM
Nah I think he like's Tifa more. But yeah that line could mean a couple things it's confusing.
chaos link
May 8th, 2006, 06:40 PM
Is it just me or Tifa sound like Asuka in Tekken 5.
And cool ringtone Loz :P
_jwb388_
May 9th, 2006, 02:40 AM
I laughed on Loz's cell phone ring tone.
chaos link
May 9th, 2006, 08:21 PM
When the first time I watched the Video, I thought the song ment that Tifa won the battle but then she hasn't and got her butt smack:P
Nano
May 10th, 2006, 01:12 PM
Anyone know where to get that ring tone?
_jwb388_
May 10th, 2006, 01:38 PM
http://mommiescloset.ringtone-logo-game.com/3-014/uk_en/1/4111/victory-final-fantasy.html
Not the exact one.
Holy Knight
May 10th, 2006, 06:18 PM
I finally got to see this movie after waiting for about 5 months.
Now, the story was pretty much an excuse for all the action. If it wasn't for all the pretty special effects, I would have obliterated the DVD, even though I'd rented it. The dialogue is senseless, mind-eating fluff that is so weak, it does not even serve the purpose of carrying a paper weight plot.
The level of detail was incredible, even though there were some scenes that were quickly rendered. Even though the action was very fast paced, I slowed down on some points and was quite surprised to see that it flowed together, unlike what you would see in an anime or any other drawn animation.
Overall, mind blowing in its intensity for high caliber action and winner of this millenia's psychopatic IQ killer. Excelent for viewing once, but your brain make take its toll after three or more subsequent viewings.
xxxYaoiLovrxxx
May 13th, 2006, 09:07 PM
I finally got to see this movie after waiting for about 5 months.
Now, the story was pretty much an excuse for all the action. If it wasn't for all the pretty special effects, I would have obliterated the DVD, even though I'd rented it. The dialogue is senseless, mind-eating fluff that is so weak, it does not even serve the purpose of carrying a paper weight plot.
The level of detail was incredible, even though there were some scenes that were quickly rendered. Even though the action was very fast paced, I slowed down on some points and was quite surprised to see that it flowed together, unlike what you would see in an anime or any other drawn animation.
Overall, mind blowing in its intensity for high caliber action and winner of this millenia's psychopatic IQ killer. Excelent for viewing once, but your brain make take its toll after three or more subsequent viewings.
I've watched this movie about 17 times already...and I LOVE IT!!!!! I can never get tired of this movie!!!!
_jwb388_
May 13th, 2006, 10:50 PM
I find nothing wrong with watching it 17 times.
NGT
May 15th, 2006, 03:57 PM
I finally got to see this movie after waiting for about 5 months.
Now, the story was pretty much an excuse for all the action. If it wasn't for all the pretty special effects, I would have obliterated the DVD, even though I'd rented it. The dialogue is senseless, mind-eating fluff that is so weak, it does not even serve the purpose of carrying a paper weight plot.
The level of detail was incredible, even though there were some scenes that were quickly rendered. Even though the action was very fast paced, I slowed down on some points and was quite surprised to see that it flowed together, unlike what you would see in an anime or any other drawn animation.
Overall, mind blowing in its intensity for high caliber action and winner of this millenia's psychopatic IQ killer. Excelent for viewing once, but your brain make take its toll after three or more subsequent viewings.
I didn't find anything wrong with the dialogue and even though the story was weak I still found it to be very good not only because of the special effects and action scenes though there were too many. I liked seeing Cloud get over his problem of giving up and getting over his guilt. I thought it was well done.
DarkSchneider
May 18th, 2006, 07:02 AM
I enjoyed the movie. It brought back a lot of memories and it was great to see all of the characters that I grew attached to when playing the game...
MagicianCamille
May 18th, 2006, 11:47 AM
I thought Cloud looked cool. =| Not as cool as Vincent, but still neat.
(Responding to a post made 2 years ago...before I joined AN...XD)
Tidusauron12
May 19th, 2006, 11:55 AM
Kadoj and his two stupid brothers were idiots.
But Sephiroth was sweet.
Holy Knight
May 19th, 2006, 01:49 PM
I didn't find anything wrong with the dialogue and even though the story was weak I still found it to be very good not only because of the special effects and action scenes though there were too many. I liked seeing Cloud get over his problem of giving up and getting over his guilt. I thought it was well done.
Don't get me wrong - the visuals more than makes up for the lack of story. It's just that the dialogue is there and says nothing at all...it was like reading some vague and vapid political rhetoric. It was genuinely frustrating to have scenes that didn't have any action in them. If you can tell me the purpose of the scene where we see the cellphone dropping through the water and give a detailed analysis about what it is exactly that they are saying on the cellphone, then I'll believe the dialogue had actual context.
What was missing in it was honesty and bluntness. We got pseudo-subtlety.
<Erases dialogue out of his FF7: AC copy>
_jwb388_
May 20th, 2006, 06:01 AM
Kadoj and his two stupid brothers were idiots.
But Sephiroth was sweet.
Why are they stupid/idiots?
NGT
May 20th, 2006, 06:12 AM
Don't get me wrong - the visuals more than makes up for the lack of story. It's just that the dialogue is there and says nothing at all...it was like reading some vague and vapid political rhetoric. It was genuinely frustrating to have scenes that didn't have any action in them. If you can tell me the purpose of the scene where we see the cellphone dropping through the water and give a detailed analysis about what it is exactly that they are saying on the cellphone, then I'll believe the dialogue had actual context.
What was missing in it was honesty and bluntness. We got pseudo-subtlety.
<Erases dialogue out of his FF7: AC copy>
The cellphone scene showed how Cloud had all these messages from his friends and did not answer it because he was giving up in life. This scene right before it had Cloud asking Vincent " Are sins ever forgiven?" Vincent answers "I've never tried." Cloud then says "Never tried... Well I'm gonna try." This showed that Cloud isn't going to run away anymore or give up. The cell phone represented Clouds constant fleeing from the people he cared for most and it falling represented an end to Cloud running away
xxxYaoiLovrxxx
May 21st, 2006, 10:18 AM
Kadoj and his two stupid brothers were idiots.
But Sephiroth was sweet.
I thought that Kadaj,Yazoo, and Loz were AWESOME!!!!!
Despite when they sometimes cried about Mother. It made them look girlie>.<
Aelice
May 21st, 2006, 10:26 AM
Kadoj and his two stupid brothers were idiots.
But Sephiroth was sweet.
My opinion is the exact obvious. I LOVED the SHM trio, but Sephiroth ruined the atmosphere for me. :<
xxxYaoiLovrxxx
May 21st, 2006, 10:40 AM
My opinion is the exact obvious. I LOVED the SHM trio, but Sephiroth ruined the atmosphere for me. :<
How did Sephiroth ruin it for you???
Sephiroth was SEXY HOTT!!!!!!
aussiboy
May 22nd, 2006, 07:12 AM
the cutest anime
vote here! (http://wanna-know-more.de.vu)
NGT
May 28th, 2006, 02:47 PM
Well I was looking through Entertainment Weekly and noticed the top 20 dvd sales. FF7 AC got number 11 . Last week it got number 6 and has been on the chart for 3 weeks. I guess it's selling well. Just thought I'd share that.
NGT
June 2nd, 2006, 03:03 PM
Anyone getting that new AC book that animenation has up for sale. I might get it sounds interesting.
xxxYaoiLovrxxx
June 4th, 2006, 10:09 AM
Anyone getting that new AC book that animenation has up for sale. I might get it sounds interesting.
I'm thinking about getting it...sounds very interesting^_^
Animexcel
June 4th, 2006, 10:26 AM
I got the FFVII omega ultimania armageddon thingy guide for Christmas last year. ^_^
Nice sketches and storyboards references.
xxxYaoiLovrxxx
June 4th, 2006, 04:30 PM
I got the FFVII omega ultimania armageddon thingy guide for Christmas last year. ^_^
Nice sketches and storyboards references.
Ohhhh....I need to go out and get that!!!!
Tidusauron12
June 4th, 2006, 07:01 PM
Why are they stupid/idiots?
They weren't. I'm just a stupid idiot sometimes. But it was really sad about those three; especially the way they 'died.'
"We can all go...together..."
Yeah... Kanashimi... Kanashimi...
_jwb388_
June 4th, 2006, 07:30 PM
Why did you call them stupid then?
Lacan
June 6th, 2006, 01:53 PM
I just got the Final Fantasy VII Advent Children DVD, though I wish it included the FFVII Anime OVA thats 25 minutes long. Oh well. Anyway I like the Final Fantasy VII in 15 minutes retrospective, it basically shows FFVII very quickly to get people who haven't played the game ready for the movie.
GreatNekoKoneko
June 6th, 2006, 06:00 PM
...did anybody cry in the end when Cloud saw "you know who"? anybody?
_jwb388_
June 6th, 2006, 07:12 PM
I don't cry. I felt relived that he saw her.
GreatNekoKoneko
June 7th, 2006, 09:02 AM
...i just bawled when he saw her and HIM at the door. i dunno. i always do everytime i see that scene. just chokes me up.
shiriko
June 7th, 2006, 09:10 AM
Meh, I cried XP I was like... "I see her! and... Oh meh god... is that...!" Wow. Then the waterworks go on X3 Loved AC.
Cyan Bloodbane
July 3rd, 2006, 06:16 PM
After watching FF:AC I was left wounding what all the hype is about. The CG was really well done, but it had almost no story at all. Some of the action was pretty cool to watch. I found myself borded for most of the movie. I also disliked how Reno was reducted to comic relief, seeing as how he was my favorite character in the game.
Loopy
July 4th, 2006, 05:39 AM
After watching FF:AC I was left wounding what all the hype is about. The CG was really well done, but it had almost no story at all. Some of the action was pretty cool to watch. I found myself borded for most of the movie. I also disliked how Reno was reducted to comic relief, seeing as how he was my favorite character in the game.
Two words: purty piktures.
Levon
July 4th, 2006, 11:17 AM
After watching FF:AC I was left wounding what all the hype is about. The CG was really well done, but it had almost no story at all. Some of the action was pretty cool to watch. I found myself borded for most of the movie. I also disliked how Reno was reducted to comic relief, seeing as how he was my favorite character in the game.
The hype wasn't "The story is the best story every made". The hype was all the the amazing CGI & action scenes of our favorite characters in the game.
Dij
July 12th, 2006, 07:55 AM
FF:AC is a top film, its just that a lot of fanboys won't like it because it doesn't live up to the story of FFVII itself. The CGI is groundbreaking, the voice acting is of a good standard and there are plenty of amazing action.
Lets face it, how many people whilst playing FFVII said "GOD I HOPE THEY MAKE A MOVIE OUT OF THIS ONE DAY!!"
NGT
July 12th, 2006, 08:53 PM
Most people who like it are fans.
Cha0tika
July 29th, 2006, 04:26 AM
After watching it I am awe-inspired, while the story may not have been all that certain people would of liked, the animation and action grabbed me by the face and sucked me in. I had totally forgotten about "him" to be honest, and when I saw "him" with "her" it struck on some long-lost memories of FFVII and made me really want to go back through for the sake of it.
Professor Chaos
September 18th, 2006, 07:04 AM
Oh Im sorry. Yes, because someone who is so cool and loves FF so much that he spends 80 hourse playing every single one every single time it comes out, spending 300 hours looking at info and screen shots for the next games, downloads, imports, or uses their mom's credit card to order Legend of final fantasy games offline, buy all the sound tracks, and then spend even more hundred of hours replaying each game, would never dislike Advent Children, It would be blaspheme against all FF. FF can really lick my balls for all I care, I do like a few of the games, I find FFX and X-2 in my top four of best video games, 7 as well, but despite whether or not I really do like it or not, I choose to set my ego aside(because I just LOOVE bragging about how much I know and love about FF series)to insult it, because losers like you tend to trash and burn a game to death, thinking your so cool you would HAVE to love a sequal movie to FF7, because if it were a bad movie, then everything you stood for could be ruined.
If this guy are so sick just stick a heal metria through his skin, if Cloud and Tifa can jump that high, why do they seem to have so many problems with other 30 foot obstacles. Just jump right over the river why dont you, who needs a land rover. Sephiroth seems to be the most popular amoungst fans, so lets make him come back to life and have a showdown with Cloud, and make Cloud use like 12 swords, and have a ridiculous highspeed bike fight, while were at it, lets bring Tseng back to life, or better yet, lets pretend he was alive the whole time, I mean if Germany can pretend WWII never happened we can do the same with Tseng, and for the finishing touch, well bring back Rufus as a cripple. After all this coming back to life, it seems they STILL seemed to have forgotten that Palmer is still alive. Ya think if they forgot that in the game, they would have realized it and done something in the sequal. Even if he were in it, he would just have a useless role, like every character except cloud had in the movie. Re introduce the whole damn cast so they can get beat by bahamut and finally at the help serve theyre only purpose to help Cloud jump even more ridiculously high to deliver the final blow to sephiroth who isnt really sephiroth but a clone of spehiroth spawned by jenova, that happens to transform into sephiroth because the jenova cells are so mysterious they can do anything. This is getting ridiculous babling on about this crappy movie, and please dont ***** to me, "If you hate it so much why spend 6 hours typing out why you hate it to other people" SImple, I didnt HATE it so much, I simply thought it was a bad movie, and if it takes anyone more than 12-15 minutes to type this much, then you either need to take up a typing lesson, or learn to get you you need to stop thinkin' about Tifa's breasts and learn to think properly.
And if another FFVII crazy admit deletes this, it only further proves my point, that they are so selve involved in loving this game that they would cover up any truth that this movie could be flawed in anyway.
Nano
September 18th, 2006, 07:29 AM
there where cheesy parts I agree.
But it is a rpg, not all the things have to make sense, if they did everyone would have hated it.
I'm not even arguing with you because I agree with most of what you say.
But it was a pretty decent piece of eye candy, that's all it was ever going to be from the very start.
Tseng did die I remember now..
I hated the whole illness thing and that stupid kid whatever his name was.
Animexcel
September 18th, 2006, 05:24 PM
If this guy are so sick just stick a heal metria through his skin, if Cloud and Tifa can jump that high, why do they seem to have so many problems with other 30 foot obstacles. Just jump right over the river why dont you, who needs a land rover. Sephiroth seems to be the most popular amoungst fans, so lets make him come back to life and have a showdown with Cloud, and make Cloud use like 12 swords, and have a ridiculous highspeed bike fight...
I don't know the FFVII game from inside out, but I did enjoy the movie.
Could it be possible that the heal materia can't actually heal everything? The geostigma is a new disease afterall. Cloud had a motorcycle in the game, why not in the movie? You see him jump all around Midgar and to the Forgotten Capital, that would look ridiculous. And everything else you mentioned pretty much means that you don't see the possiblities of what animation can do. Everything seems so fast, because that's what action is all about.
Kyro
September 22nd, 2006, 10:09 AM
yea i agree with you FF advent childern would make such a great game its fun to watch and i magine with all the new graphics how would it be fightin with everyone. i also think that they should re-make the FF VII to be on PS3 seeing as though its on blue ray now but the never listen to the people who buy their freakin products but im writing to square now about a couple of game ideas
Animexcel
September 23rd, 2006, 08:11 AM
yea i agree with you FF advent childern would make such a great game its fun to watch and i magine with all the new graphics how would it be fightin with everyone. i also think that they should re-make the FF VII to be on PS3 seeing as though its on blue ray now but the never listen to the people who buy their freakin products but im writing to square now about a couple of game ideas
That would be very cool, and since it'd be on blueray they can add a Japanese track option ^_^
ladystarlight
September 23rd, 2006, 06:31 PM
i realy love the movie. the cloud in the movie is the same cloud from Kingdom hearts 2 game.
dont_love_me
October 3rd, 2006, 02:49 PM
i realy love the movie. the cloud in the movie is the same cloud from Kingdom hearts 2 game.
^ eh cloud was created in final fantasy way before kingdom hearts, sorry to kill your buzz... well i love the movie to but FFVIII would of made a better movie in my opinion... even that the fact was FFVIII wasn't a great(it was ok) game compared to FFVII
_jwb388_
October 3rd, 2006, 04:57 PM
FF8 had a pretty conclusive ending. I would be happy with a cg movie about FF8 from the begining to end.
dont_love_me
October 4th, 2006, 12:09 AM
FF8 had a pretty conclusive ending. I would be happy with a cg movie about FF8 from the begining to end.
^yea that would be really cool! aw i loved FFVIII's ending! it gets confusing but great! ^_^
KatayokuのTenshi
December 4th, 2006, 06:13 AM
After watching FF:AC I was left wounding what all the hype is about. The CG was really well done, but it had almost no story at all. Some of the action was pretty cool to watch. I found myself borded for most of the movie. I also disliked how Reno was reducted to comic relief, seeing as how he was my favorite character in the game.
I think the idea was to bring all the characters back together, have them kick some *** bring back Sepiroth ('cos you're gonna have to) and have a nice happy ending.
Could it be possible that the heal materia can't actually heal everything?
Just like a Phonix down cant bring people back to life outside of battle.:'(
ryushe
December 4th, 2006, 07:37 AM
...i just bawled when he saw her and HIM at the door. i dunno. i always do everytime i see that scene. just chokes me up.
IMO that's the best scene in the whole movie, I loved the part when you see Cloud smile. I was like "OMG. Yes, your not alone." :crybaby: I think I read somewhere that Tetsuya Nomura made the whole movie just for that one scene.
Hara!
December 24th, 2006, 05:14 PM
Still stickied?
Len
February 8th, 2007, 10:45 PM
How does one say so much about FFVII:AC? xD It was a good movie, the end?
Nano
February 17th, 2007, 03:07 PM
Just like a Phonix down cant bring people back to life outside of battle.:'(
I think they're only knocked out in battle.
Sixteen
February 18th, 2007, 10:31 AM
Final Fantasy Advent Children was indeed an awesome movie. I loved every single second of it. Seeing all of the 'group' that fought Sephiroth and seeing his battle with Cloud was beyound amazing. The only gripe I had with it was it wasn't near long enough for me. Granted it was only ment to be sort of a continuation of the ending cinmatic for the game I still felt a little jiped for the time.
MightyDustLoop
February 24th, 2007, 01:28 PM
Woohoo, got my LE today! It's pretty damn sexy.
KyubiNoKitsune
March 10th, 2007, 11:57 PM
W007!!!11~~!!
I loved this movie!!
When I saw the Great One I nearly platzed...
I immediately fell to my knees and waved my arms saying "I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy!!"
I thought Tifa was absolutely adorable in this movie...
Chocobo Knight
April 17th, 2007, 07:38 AM
I got the Limited Edition recently and noticed it had the French audio track. Since I've watched it way too many times, I gave the French audio a go. It's a hilarious way to watch AC again, I recommend it for a few chuckles.
lfgarcia
June 15th, 2007, 12:47 PM
SquareEnix fails with the FF7 games and movies. They need to know to make the games and movie conjecture to FF7.
KingofHearts 13
October 16th, 2007, 10:00 AM
Whats the news with the blue-ray version of AC cuz i heard they are gonna have the extended cut of the sephiroth/cloud fight
Chidori Raikiri
November 18th, 2007, 11:30 AM
w00t! Just got my AC collectors reno figure today!
Jia
June 2nd, 2008, 01:11 AM
FF8 had a pretty conclusive ending. I would be happy with a cg movie about FF8 from the begining to end.
They need to remake the game too :D
So more people can love it.
Animexcel
June 5th, 2008, 09:24 AM
I think the Parasite Eve game should be a movie.
Jae Hoon
September 17th, 2008, 07:16 PM
Yeah dont think this needs to be sticked anymore.
Ikari Warrior
September 24th, 2008, 01:22 PM
why not? it's a very important movie!
Animexcel
September 24th, 2008, 05:02 PM
Yeah, not to mention, Advent Children Complete will come out eventually.
MightyDustLoop
September 25th, 2008, 05:43 PM
It's the Star Wars of game movies.
Matsu'o Tsurayaba
September 27th, 2008, 05:15 PM
I finally saw the movie recently,I don't think it was a real continuation of the game. Because at the end of VII,Midgar is destroyed..and the movie takes place a year afterword. Personally,even though the movie looked great..story wise..it did not have to take place.
Animexcel
September 28th, 2008, 09:41 AM
I finally saw the movie recently,I don't think it was a real continuation of the game. Because at the end of VII,Midgar is destroyed..and the movie takes place a year afterword. Personally,even though the movie looked great..story wise..it did not have to take place.
Have you seen Midgar in the movie? It's completely trashed, and the movie takes place 2 years later. :P
Siendra
September 29th, 2008, 11:54 AM
I finally saw the movie recently,I don't think it was a real continuation of the game. Because at the end of VII,Midgar is destroyed..and the movie takes place a year afterword. Personally,even though the movie looked great..story wise..it did not have to take place.
The final cut scene in VII takes place something like a century after Advent Children.
Ikari Warrior
October 1st, 2008, 09:28 AM
The final cut scene in VII takes place something like a century after Advent Children.
5 centuries after Advent Children. In fact, Advent Children starts off with that final cutscene (redone, of course) then says "498 years earlier."
However, that final cutscene in FF7 (and that opening scene in advent children) CLEARLY implied midgar being utterly abandoned for a significant period of time (i.e. grown over with vegetation) so I'm somewhat interested in how Midgar got that way, honestly...
Naraku
October 1st, 2008, 05:36 PM
I finally saw the movie recently,I don't think it was a real continuation of the game. Because at the end of VII,Midgar is destroyed..and the movie takes place a year afterword. Personally,even though the movie looked great..story wise..it did not have to take place.
It wasn't any worse than the FF7 game story.
Siendra
October 1st, 2008, 07:43 PM
5 centuries after Advent Children. In fact, Advent Children starts off with that final cutscene (redone, of course) then says "498 years earlier."
However, that final cutscene in FF7 (and that opening scene in advent children) CLEARLY implied midgar being utterly abandoned for a significant period of time (i.e. grown over with vegetation) so I'm somewhat interested in how Midgar got that way, honestly...
if I had to guess, we'll get a game or book about humanity leaving Earth to follow the Cetra.
Tommy-San
April 22nd, 2009, 10:16 AM
I'm just waiting for Advent Children Complete.
I like knew the script to the original AC.
Complete is going to, well, completely deliver.
Jae Hoon
May 4th, 2009, 12:31 PM
I liked AC, especially when Vincent told Cloud to quit being an emo wuss.
Maka Albarn
November 28th, 2009, 04:56 AM
The movie was a major disappointment for me.
I couldn't help but feel like they could have done better.
I s'pose I expected too much from it. ):
Animexcel
November 28th, 2009, 08:11 PM
Both dvd and/or extended blu ray version?
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