Kagome or Kikyo

[mintchoclt]

Who do you think Inuyasha should be with?and Why? :???:

Personally...I think Inuyasha and Kagome are ment for eachother.:crush:

[akwan50]

I used to be a Kagome fan, but I some how got coverted to a Kikyo fan. I still like Kagome, though I don't think she's as great a character as she used to be. As of now, I think Kikyo is the better match for Inuyasha because I think that Kagome is still a little too immature to be ready for that kind of relationship. Of course, I don't doubt that she will eventually mature and be prepared, but at this moment, I don't think she's ready. Of course I want Inuyasha to end up with Kikyo, but that's highly unlikely because she is after all a clay doll risen from the dead and will have to eventually go back to the after world after her business is done with Naraku.

Anyways, make sure to check out the Inuyasha Forum (http://www.animenation.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=111). There have been many big debates over that question and there's another gigantic one going on right now. There's alot of good material to be read in those threads so make sure to check them out.

[spooncivicR]

I prefer Kagome, but Inuyasha should be with Kikyo...

[mintchoclt]

akwan50

I also have this same question in another forum. I have it on the website www.anipike.com I have gotten quite a few hits since I started it. This to me is probably one of the most highly debated questions. But if you read in the manga it seems that Inuyasha is starting to drift further away from Kikyo.

[JOlteus_K]

I like Kikyo more than Kagome, and I think Kikyo and Inu Yasha were just meant for each other, so my votes for Kikyo!

[Usyagi]

Originally posted by mintchoclt
I also have this same question in another forum. I have it on the website www.anipike.com I have gotten quite a few hits since I started it. This to me is probably one of the most highly debated questions. But if you read in the manga it seems that Inuyasha is starting to drift further away from Kikyo. NoooOOooOoo! Not the Anipike Kikyo/Kagome thread! I think I was pretty much the only one really fighting for Kikyo in there. Very lonely.

Go Kikyo. :D

[mintchoclt]

No you weren't. There were actually quite a few that actually voted for Kikyo. It's not that I have anything against her. To me...she seems to mature for Inuyasha. Where Kagome and Inuyasha seem to blend better. They compliment eachother by their attitudes. Their relationship just seems to work.

Where Kikyo is way to calm...and well like I said earlier mature. But over all, I still love her.

[Onv]

Originally posted by spooncivicR
I prefer Kagome, but Inuyasha should be with Kikyo...
Same here...:cheers:

[Usyagi]

Originally posted by mintchoclt
No you weren't. There were actually quite a few that actually voted for Kikyo. I just meant that for a long time I was the only one really arguing in her favor. I was willing to write needlessly long explinations on why Kikyo is more deserving of Inuyasha than Kagome, even though I ended up repeating the same things a few times. But I know there are other Kikyo fans out there. ^_^

[PsycoGoth]

Kikyo, because she and Inu Yasha are meant to be together...

That plus Kagome's a little annoying, IMO

[Xephar]

I think it should be Kagome, because Kikyo is only alive because of that Urasue yokai, or what ever her name was. I think Inuyasha should avenge kikyo, but my vote is for Kagome.


PsycoGoth wrote: "That plus Kagome's a little annoying, IMO"

I don't think she is annoying, she reminds me a lot of Akane from ranma though, the way she argues with Inuyasha. I am going to get flamed by my male friends for this, but I think they are cute together.

[Mokona76]

i like kikyo shes cuter than kagome

[Eva]

Kagome she so cool.
I like the school girl:crush:

[akwan50]

There was a gigantic Kikyo vs Kagome debate on AniPike? Heh, I guess I missed it since I basically abandoned that place. Guess it wasn't the place for me.

Anyways, I don't think I missed a whole lot from that debate, if anything. I've read through several gigantic Kikyo vs Kagome debates that have gone well over 100-posts each(sometimes even 200) with some incredibly long responses that were definitely worth reading. However, they did a get a bit repetitive after a while since alot of the arguements are reiterated. Oh well.

[Levon]

Doesn't Kagome like some guy from her time? [or maybe that was just in one episode]

[Levon]

Originally posted by PsycoGoth
Kikyo, because she and Inu Yasha are meant to be together...

That plus Kagome's a little annoying, IMO

Don't most people say Kikyo is annoying[or her dub anyway]?:lol:

I don't find them annoying.

[akwan50]

Originally posted by levon
Doesn't Kagome like some guy from her time? [or maybe that was just in one episode]

No, not really. The guy's name is Hojo and he likes Kagome, but Kagome doesn't like him back(at least romantically speaking). Well, at least Kagome doesn't do anything that leads us to believe that she likes him.

[Eva]

Originally posted by akwan50
There was a gigantic Kikyo vs Kagome debate on AniPike? Heh, I guess I missed it since I basically abandoned that place. Guess it wasn't the place for me.

Anyways, I don't think I missed a whole lot from that debate, if anything. I've read through several gigantic Kikyo vs Kagome debates that have gone well over 100-posts each(sometimes even 200) with some incredibly long responses that were definitely worth reading. However, they did a get a bit repetitive after a while since alot of the arguements are reiterated. Oh well.
That mean :complain:

[Kipsy]

Neither! I think they're both annoying! And I don't think he needs to be dating any of the men in the series either *shakes off annoying yaoi fangirls* Inu Yasha seems too much of a loner too me. Besides, any long period with Kagome or Kikyo would make ME want to smack them...how could Inu Yasha stand them?

[dothack]

I think Inuyasha and Kagome were meant for eachother, but I prefer Kikyo to be with Inuyasha

[Xephar]

She was asked out on a date, but she never actually liked the guy I don't think. She may have had a crush on him at one point before the beginning of the series. But we will never know about that. She is obviously falling in love with Inuyasha though.

[miakarayne]

I'm a Kagome + Inuyasha fan. ^_^
Just can't help my preference going for them...

[Hel]

I like Kagome and Inuyasha, but Inuyasha should really belong with Kikyo.

[mintchoclt]

Sorry people about having two of the same threads in here. One of them was originally in the general anime section. So keep posting in this one, but completely IGNORE the other one.

And again I am really sorry.

[DarkDuelist]

Kikyo for Inuyasha !:cheers:

[Red XIV]

Originally posted by akwan50
I still like Kagome, though I don't think she's as great a character as she used to be. As of now, I think Kikyo is the better match for Inuyasha because I think that Kagome is still a little too immature to be ready for that kind of relationship. Of course, I don't doubt that she will eventually mature and be prepared, but at this moment, I don't think she's ready.
The thing is, Inuyasha is even less mature. I'm not really sure how Kikyo managed with him, unless he's somehow regressed in maturity during the 50 years he was sealed to the tree.

[akwan50]

Originally posted by Red XIV
The thing is, Inuyasha is even less mature. I'm not really sure how Kikyo managed with him, unless he's somehow regressed in maturity during the 50 years he was sealed to the tree.

But there was something about Kikyo back then(and even now) that made him completely change from his normal, immature self into a a more calm, more mature self when he was around her. Around Kikyo, we never see him act as he would act normally with Kagome most of the time. Maybe it's not a healthy relataionship for Inuyasha to change when he's around Kikyo, but that's how it was.

[DAM8024]

Originally posted by akwan50
But there was something about Kikyo back then(and even now) that made him completely change from his normal, immature self into a a more calm, more mature self when he was around her. Around Kikyo, we never see him act as he would act normally with Kagome most of the time. Maybe it's not a healthy relataionship for Inuyasha to change when he's around Kikyo, but that's how it was.

Exactly, I agree with most of that statement.

[Andre Muyo!]

I like Kikyo :crush:; she's pretty sexy for a Shinto preistess.

[mintchoclt]

Yes!!!...Inuyasha is back on Adult Swim. How great is that!? WarningSpoiler ahead: I absolutely loved Inuyasha's reaction to Kouga's proclimation of love to Kagome. It was priceless!! And the little fluff at the end with both Kouga and Inuysha was kawaii...especially the way Inuyasha acted when he saw Kouga in Kagome's arms...hehehe :D

Defiantely a classic Inuyasha and Kagome moment. Well technically it is also a Kagome and Kouga moment, but that's the relationship that I don't want to happen.

[kissthecajun]

The whole Kagome or Kikyo bit... I think Kagome should end up with Inuyasha. Not because Kikyo is basically a life size mud puppet brought back from the dead, but because there is too much between Inuyasha and Kikyo.

They both deserve a fresh start. Inuyasha has one basically with Kagome who is very up lifting i think would be the best way to describe her and she and Inuyasha are basically on the same maturity level (Need I remind anyone of poor Shippo's head being banged in by Inuyasha how many times...? In that respect Kagome is definitly more mature :crush:). Inuyasha might be older then the rest, but he certinally doesn't act it. Plus, like he himself told Kagome he didn't trust before she came along... ^_^

As for Kikyo, I love her. But she is too mature for him and I think she above all the others deserves a second chance. Not with Inuyasha though. She deserves to start over clean and fresh with someone else...

Oh and another reason I don't think Kikyo and Inuyasha were meant for each other, is that she wanted him to turn human and basically change him while Kagome likes him just the way he is ^_^

Hmmm maybe Kikyo and Kouga...? I am stretching it. I know.

[sakura11]

I think that should be Kagome!!!:crush: I think INU loves Kagome now,not kikyo.

[jedimaster2004]

I have converted to a kikyou fan. I stoped watching inuyasha around ep 100 and just a few days ago stated watching again. While catching up i noticed i no longer really cared for Kagome, and i found i really liked how kikyous character has come along.

[neiru_3]

Inuyasha and Kagome should be together. Kikyo is the past....Naruko messed that up.

[DAM8024]

Hey kissthecajun, sakura11, neiru_3 and whoever else supports Kagome over Kikyo, refer to the link provided and read at least the last few pages of that thread. It will counter most of what you said about how Kagome is better then Kikyo if not all. I don't feel like starting another debate in this thread. Enjoy.

^_^ click on the smiley (http://animenation.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=108719)

Edit: Actually, it would be better to start a few pages into the thread so that you will understand what everyone is talking about.

[So'/ sauce|) coo|<ie]

I'm a Inuyasha + Kagome fan myself and I have been since I became a fan of the series. I think they would make a great couple. Their relationship resembles that of Ranma and Akane's which had a lot of ups and downs but ultimately you knew they were made for each other and I think that's going to be the case with Inuyasha and Kagome.

As for Kikyo, I used to hate her character. But recently I think I've gotten a better understanding of her character so I have nothing against her...actually I quite like her character, but I don't think she and Inuyasha would be good together as of now. They were together in the past, but Naraku screwed everything up and Kikyo died. She's "alive" again now, but I don't see much of a chance of Inuyasha and Kikyo patching things up and becoming a couple all over again after everything that has happened to them both. They've both changed over time into different people and Kikyo said herself that now that they've grown apart they can never reform that bond they once had.

[Xephar]

Originally posted by neiru_3
Inuyasha and Kagome should be together. Kikyo is the past....Naruko messed that up.

Naraku is by far one of the evilest characters i've seen in an anime in a long time. Except he never does any of his own dirty work....

[Hankoubou]

Kagome=School Girl with a uniform!!!!
Me=:drool: :drool: :drool:

[goddessofanime]

Personally I'm starting to tire of Inuyasha's constant aching for the pottery project named Kikyo and I find myself thinking, SHe ain't herself anymore, my friend. Look there's Kagome. She's cute isn't she?

However, I do like Kikyo much better than Kagome. She's badass and beautiful. Personally, I'd rather see her wind up with Sesshy

[okubyo Neko-san]

I prefer Kagome over Kikyo, She is more lively and cute, where as Kikyo always has this gloomy dark feel to her whenever I see her. I still like Kikyo though just not as much. What I don't like is the fact that Inu-Yasha can't seem to choose, I know its hard but he can't just keep playing with both of their hearts. Though Thursdays ep. was very sweet.

[otakumau]

I think Kagome loves Inuyasha a lot, and even though the past, Inuyasha should pick her.
Besides, she´s cute and beautiful.

[SuperMCE]

Kagome, becuase I think they go well together.

[shezaei_neko]

Kagome and InuYasha for ever!!! ;)

[Dalmain]

I didn't like Kikyo's character much at first ,but I too have recently began to understand her more. Thus liking her. But I stand that Inuyasha should be with Kagome. I think that what they have is true love and what he had with Kikyo died a long time ago. I feel that Kagome has helped Inuyasha in so many facets that will ultimately make him a better person.

[konekone]

I believe Kikyo and Kagome are basically 2 side of the same coin. Their existance is so deeply entangled. They basically cannot exist without the existance of the other.

I don't think Inu Yasha can choose between them. There is no way he's going to hurt one or the other on purpose. Inu Yasha is a soft gentle person when it come to Kikyo and Kagome afterall. ^^

So I believe the 3 should be together.

Or if Kikyo and Kagome ever become one person again, they would complete each other. Then they can have a happy ending.

[Luna]

i dont like kagome too much. >< i want inuyasha to stay with kikyo.

[08th commander]

i'm not gonna pretend like i know the whole series but from what i've seen i'd have to go with kagome. if kikyo hadn't died all the other stuff that laid the foundation for the series didn't happen then i'd say kikyo. but i get the impression that inuyasha is in love with kagome and is also loved by her.
his feelings from kikyo come from the past that he had with her when they were in love. but kikyo has changed and while he may feel like he has to choose kikyo out of loyalty and past events. i got the impression that inuyasha's heart lies with kagome.
to be honest my thoughts on this are from where they currently are at on adult swim and from what i say kikyo doesn't love inuyasha, and it seemed like inuyasha was forcing his love.

[08th commander]

also maybe this is important cuz i don't want my view to be biased...but maybe it is becase i'm a kagome fan

[Seijuro_Hiko_IX]

I don't like Kikyo in the show as she is. I imagine she used to be very nice and kind and sweet, and if that were still the case I would probably love her. But I just don't like the way she is. The only thing that keeps me from RELLY disliking her is the fact that she is so beautiful.

But Kagome is my favorite girl in the show so of course I love her a lot.

[evilmunkeee]

I dislike Kagome, but Yasha should be with her instead of Kikyo because shes more caring and stuff...

[Legendarygunman]

Kagome kikyo just want's to kill inuyasha

[mintchoclt]

Why Inuyasha and Kagome?

Kagome and Inuyasha appear much like Akane and Ranma in Rumiko Takahashi's smash hit series; Ranma 1/2. Though there aren't as many suitors for the two of them; the series revolves mainly around their relationship and the trials that they face.

Though I know a few would say that Kikyo ends up with Inuyasha, in my opinion that's not the case. Yes, the knew eachother from the beginning; but there was never really a true relationship there. Kikyo wished to rid herself of the job of protecting the Shikon Jewel and become a normal woman; while Inuysha just wanted to be long somewhere(even if it meant becoming human). So an arrangement was made. Kikyo would use the jewel to turn him human; in order to get rid of both their problems. Though Naraku started the chain, they continued it themselves. There was no trust between them so their arrandement ended in disaster.

Situations in Episodes:

*Inuysha gives Kagome his fire rat fur for protection against "Yura of the Hair," although this is a small gesture, it's a prelude of what's to come.

*When it appears Kagome is killed by Sesshomaru's poison attack (and with thoughts of his mother); Inuyasha becomes enraged and is able to hit his brother, when before he wasn't.

*Although he doesn't express his worry for Kagome's safety in the Thunder Brothers' hands verbally, it's obvious when he saves her life that he is very relieved.

*when it appears Kagomeis leaving for the afterlife after 'supposedly' being killed by Hiten, Inuyasha grabs her hand and despretely screams for her not to leave him.

*After the incident with the poisonous spiders, Kagome tells a human Inuyasha that she was crying because she feared he might die.

*If you've seen the two part episode when Kikyo's remains were stolen and used to create a living doll by that old witch; you might have noticed that when Kagome claimed her soul back, was at the moment Inuyasha was about to be killed by Kikyo.

*When Kagome complains that Miroku stole her bike, Inuyasha rells her that it could have been worse; he could have stolen her! Once he realizes what he has said though, he comes up with the excuse that he was just worried about the shards.

*Inuyasha jumps in front of Kagome to protect her Susshomaru's attack. He then begs Miroku to take her away from that battle for her protection.

*Inuyasha hugs Kagome and confesses he was scared she might die. Then he throws her in the well for her protection.

*When Shippo asks Inuyasha what he thinks Kagome is doing in her time, he tells him toforget about her. However, in his thoughts; as long as she is alive and safe that's good enough for him.

*Inuyasha is unable to fight with his full potential when Kagome isn't around. Inthis episode, he sent her back to her time for protection. However, when he was attacked by another demon he wasn't able to fight very well. Miroku and Keade then realized that Kagome was Inuyasha's reason to fight on.

*Kikyo claims that 'her feelings when she kissed him were no lie'. Later on, Inuyasha says and I quote, 'Mine were no lie either...' in which a scene flashes back to when Kikyo accused that 'Kagome was more precious to him then she was'; for which he did not deny...(and he blushed!). When Kikyo talks to Keade in this same episode, she admits she sees a change in Inuyasha. Both her and Kaede admit that Kagome is the one that brought out this change in him.

*When Kagome is taken prisoner by the fake 'water god'; though Miroku and Sango suggest to first free the real one, Inuyasha demands that they free Kagome first.

*In this episode Inuyasha and Kagome met another half demon known as Jinenji. It was evident that Inuyasha could relate with him; for both had been treated like freaks from both demons and humans. In the end, Inuyasha explains to Kagome that there was no place for him; so he made himself one. Kagome then expresses her gratitude that he shared his past with her, and tells him not to be afraid to show his soft side; for he's not alone anymore. After Kagome walks away back to the rest of their companions, he realizes she is right. Without him even noticing it, it just felt natural to have Kagome near.

*Kagome vowed to never leave Inuyasha's side even when he told her that thoguh he care deeply for her, he still feels responsible for Kikyo's death and feels he must pay her back with his life. Though Kikyo wishes to take him to hell with her, her finding that she enjoys the feeling of hate; Kagome on the other hand wishes only to see Inyasha live and be happy.

*During a quiet night with the group Kagome tells Inuyasha that she likes him just the way he is; as a hanyou...(from movie 2).

*Kagome throws herself in front of Inuyasha in order to protect him; she in turn gets shot with the arrow intended for him...(from movie 2)

*Kaguya brings Inuyasha's demon side be sealing his human blood in a mirror. However, Kagome is able to bring him back by kissing him...(He returns her kiss!!!). (From movie 2)

*When Kagome and the others(except Shippo and Kirara) are poisoned; Inuyasha is forced to separate from the group in order to protect them. On his way back, he tells Kagome to wait for him...(in his thoughts).

*When Inuyasha reaches the temple where that group is being care for, the first person he asks about is Kagome.

*Inuyasha again fights a member of the Shinntauchi. While doing so, he tells Kagome to wait for him.

*He races into the burning temple that the entire group is trapped in screaming her name.

*Inuyasha apologizes to a near death Kagome; cradling her in his arms.

*Her cries; the first time ever it seems, as explained by Myouga; when he realizes she's going to be okay.

*When Kouga comes by and claims Inuyasha isn't caring for Kagome properly; Inuyasha declares he will keep her out of danger, and for him to wait and see.

*When forced to choose between protecting Kikyo or Kagome and the others; he chooses Kagome and the group.

*And anytime Kouga is anywhere near Kagome, Inuyasha is green with jealousy.

These to me are proof enough to show that Inuyasha cares more for Kagome then just as a friend or a simple shard detector.

[reddragon]

those are some pretty good reasons. Here is my reel on the matter.

It is almost a toss up. Kikyo should get Inuyasha bacause, well they were together before. But, all kikyo wants to do now is take Inuyasha to hell with her. Now Kagome, She is the new girl and has done nothing but been nice to Inuyasha (aside from the occasional 'sit boy'). But her prob is she is from the future and Inuyasha is from feudal Japan. What is going to happen after they collect all the jewel shards? Kagome should return home and Kikyo will finally be able to still her wandering soul. Sango will have buried her brother, (the jewel shard is the only thing keeping him alive. Once it is removed Kohuko will die) Maroku will have vanquished Naruko, with the help of the others, thus his wind tunnel will be cured, Supposedly. Also, Maruko and Sango will probably get together and kids or something. And Chippo will probably stay with Kaeda till she dies. As for Inuyasha? Well, I think I am going to wait till the end of the series to find out what happens. I also want to see How close I get.

Whoops, got a little off topic. Oh well. Anyways, my answer is Neither.

[DAM8024]

mintchoclt:

First off, if you want, go refer to this thread because most of my reasons for why Kikyo is better are listed in there. Here are a few quotes of myself from that thread.

^ _ ^ (http://animenation.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=108719)

I can go into it a lot but let's just say that Kikyo was the one who made Inu Yasha completely change, from a regular hanyou who was just interested in getting power, to a love stricken fool who could not stop thinking about her. It was Kikyo, not Kagome, who first made Inu Yasha change this dramatically. Kagome just happens to look like Kikyo to confuse Inu Yasha.

When Inu Yasha is with Kikyo in the flashback, he clearly says that Kikyo is on his mind. As a result, when he is with Kikyo, he completely changes into a love stricken puppy. He says romantic things to Kikyo, he hugs her and he says to himself that he always wants to be with her. When he meets Kikyo the clay version, he also changes completely from his usual angry, stubborn self. He says how he will always accept her and he embraces her. Inu Yasha is a different person when he is with Kikyo. Love can change people. This is far different from the normal Inu Yasha that is with Kagome. I take it you get the picture.

As I have said before, there is DEFINITELY a true relationship there. Inu Yasha has said how much he cares for her every time he sees her and how much he loves her. He has said that he would do anything for Kikyo including going to hell with her. As for your issue about Kikyo/Inu Yasha's trust, that was also answered as we can see here.

As for Inu Yasha and Kikyo not trusting each other, we have had many discussions here on this topic in this forum. Inu Yasha and Kikyo never knew of shapeshifters so to assume that Inu Yasha slicing Kikyo and taking the Shikon jewel is really a shapeshifter is paranoia not love. Also keep in mind that almost everyone in the show has been tricked by Naraku including Sango's whole family of demon exterminators, Miroku's ancestors, Kouga's tribe, etc...

Sigh..I've answered all of this in my other Kikyo vs Kagome threads. No, Inu Yasha and Kikyo started out their relationship when Kikyo was always shooting him and pinning to a tree. It is not uncharacteristic at all. Furthermore, like I said, there is no way for Inu Yasha and Kikyo to tell that there is a shapeshifter around without knowledge of shapeshifters, right?? To assume that "oh this isn't Inu Yasha but a shapeshifter" is paranoia and I hope you know what that word means. Even the closest, most trusting couples would be fooled by Naraku's plot at least for a long time. Remember Inu Yasha isn't that smart to figure out stuff like this (when Sesshoumaru used a fake demon disguised as his mother) and neither is Kikyo. However, it's ok because Naraku tricks everyone and I mean everyone so that's why he has so many enemies. If it was Kagome and Inu Yasha 10 years from now married with kids, I am sure that if they did not know about shapeshifters, they would fall prey to the same plot.

[Naegling]

DAM8024, please don't turn this into another "^_^" thread. If anyone truly wish to argue then feel free to take it to that thread. But, be careful, since you are entering late DAM8024 might get mad if you bring up a point again.

[DAM8024]

mintchoclt continued:

Now to address every situation you brought up of Kagome/Inu Yasha. I applaud that you took so much effort in finding this many. Remember my argument is only that Kagome/Inu Yasha for much of the series are only a little more then good friends. This does not mean that they will always remain good friends and that their relationship cannot develop. It just means that as far as the series is right now, they are just a little more then good friends and not a true couple yet. Plus, Kagome/Inu Yasha have many problems like Kagome's abusive and unjust use of her sit power to control Inu Yasha. Although they have problems too, Kikyo/Inu Yasha are a real couple in an intimate relationship. Also, most (not all) of your examples can be seen as Inu Yasha and Kagome's behavior toward each other as good friends, not lovers. After all, I would act like that if one of my friends was in trouble.

*Inuysha gives Kagome his fire rat fur for protection against "Yura of the Hair," although this is a small gesture, it's a prelude of what's to come.

They just met each other and it's way too early in the series. Prelude you say? Ok, that's opinion.

*When it appears Kagome is killed by Sesshomaru's poison attack (and with thoughts of his mother); Inuyasha becomes enraged and is able to hit his brother, when before he wasn't.

*Although he doesn't express his worry for Kagome's safety in the Thunder Brothers' hands verbally, it's obvious when he saves her life that he is very relieved.

Inu Yasha and Kagome as good friends. Plus, Inu Yasha feels guilty as he thinks that he is responsible for Kikyo's death so he would not want someone else that looks like Kikyo to die as well.

*when it appears Kagomeis leaving for the afterlife after 'supposedly' being killed by Hiten, Inuyasha grabs her hand and despretely screams for her not to leave him.

Again, Inu Yasha feels guilty as he thinks that he is responsible for Kikyo's death so he would not want someone else that looks like Kikyo to die as well.

*After the incident with the poisonous spiders, Kagome tells a human Inuyasha that she was crying because she feared he might die.

Yes, this episode can be seen as building up their relationship.

*If you've seen the two part episode when Kikyo's remains were stolen and used to create a living doll by that old witch; you might have noticed that when Kagome claimed her soul back, was at the moment Inuyasha was about to be killed by Kikyo.

Kagome was unconscious so she could not have intentionally done anything. I think it was just luck and timing that part of Kikyo's soul was being taken back at that moment.

*When Kagome complains that Miroku stole her bike, Inuyasha rells her that it could have been worse; he could have stolen her! Once he realizes what he has said though, he comes up with the excuse that he was just worried about the shards.

At this point in the series, Miroku is a villain. Of course Inu Yasha wouldn't want any villain to take Kagome away. Nor would he want any villain to kidnap Shippo.

*Inuyasha jumps in front of Kagome to protect her Susshomaru's attack. He then begs Miroku to take her away from that battle for her protection.

Going back to the guilt for Kikyo's death argument and also that he knew that Sesshoumaru might exploit his weakness, which is Kagome. Although he fights harder when he is protecting his friends, Inu Yasha cannot protect Kagome and fight Sesshoumaru effectively at the same time.

*Inuyasha hugs Kagome and confesses he was scared she might die. Then he throws her in the well for her protection.

*When Shippo asks Inuyasha what he thinks Kagome is doing in her time, he tells him toforget about her. However, in his thoughts; as long as she is alive and safe that's good enough for him.

Kagome doesn't belong in that world plus at that point she was too weak to defend herself. Miroku and Shippo both have ways of defending themselves as they were born in that chaotic feudal era. Also, any friend would be, Inu Yasha was worried for Kagome.

*Inuyasha is unable to fight with his full potential when Kagome isn't around. Inthis episode, he sent her back to her time for protection. However, when he was attacked by another demon he wasn't able to fight very well. Miroku and Keade then realized that Kagome was Inuyasha's reason to fight on.

I kind of remember this episode, but it would be best if I rewatched it. Anyways, I will use the guilt over Kikyo's death argument and how he would not let anyone who looks like Kikyo die. In fact, he would fight harder to protect someone who looks like Kikyo to keep her from dying.

*Kikyo claims that 'her feelings when she kissed him were no lie'. Later on, Inuyasha says and I quote, 'Mine were no lie either...' in which a scene flashes back to when Kikyo accused that 'Kagome was more precious to him then she was'; for which he did not deny...(and he blushed!). When Kikyo talks to Keade in this same episode, she admits she sees a change in Inuyasha. Both her and Kaede admit that Kagome is the one that brought out this change in him.

The first part of this example helps prove that Kikyo and Inu Yasha are in love because they have intimate feelings for each other. As for Kikyo's accusation, Inu Yasha responded normally and it doesn't necessarily mean that he really loves Kagome if he blushes. If your girlfriend accuses you of liking another girl, you might still blush even if it wasn't true. As for Kikyo and Kaede's discussion, I have mentioned in other threads that I think Kikyo's jealousy of Kagome plays a major factor in what she says about Kagome. Kikyo forgets that she made Inu Yasha change the most before she was killed turning him from a power hungry demon into a love-stricken puppy who thought about Kikyo all day. Concerning Kaede, I just happen to disagree with her perspective on this issue.

*When Kagome is taken prisoner by the fake 'water god'; though Miroku and Sango suggest to first free the real one, Inuyasha demands that they free Kagome first.

Of course, Kagome is a close friend of his and the real water god is not. Inu Yasha would want to save Sango, Miroku and Shippo over the real water god any day.

*In this episode Inuyasha and Kagome met another half demon known as Jinenji. It was evident that Inuyasha could relate with him; for both had been treated like freaks from both demons and humans. In the end, Inuyasha explains to Kagome that there was no place for him; so he made himself one. Kagome then expresses her gratitude that he shared his past with her, and tells him not to be afraid to show his soft side; for he's not alone anymore. After Kagome walks away back to the rest of their companions, he realizes she is right. Without him even noticing it, it just felt natural to have Kagome near.

With my closest friends who are girls, I also tend to show my softer, nicer side. Of course I am not going to act with girls as I would with my closest guy friends. Same with Inu Yasha as Kagome wants him to act nicer towards her more like a normal guy would but that does not mean they are a real couple yet. My point is because I can act that way with my friends who are girls, that does not necessarily mean that we are a couple and this also applies to Inu Yasha.

*Kagome vowed to never leave Inuyasha's side even when he told her that thoguh he care deeply for her, he still feels responsible for Kikyo's death and feels he must pay her back with his life. Though Kikyo wishes to take him to hell with her, her finding that she enjoys the feeling of hate; Kagome on the other hand wishes only to see Inyasha live and be happy.

Friends stand each other as well and they wish each other to live and be happy. Inu Yasha feels responsible and very guilty for Kikyo's death even when it was not his fault. However, he would not feel half as bad if he did not love her very much. It is true that Inu Yasha loves Kikyo very much so that is why he feels bad about what happened. Kikyo only wanted to take Inu Yasha to hell out of desperation so that she could be with him and he could be with her. She still loves him very much and she even expressed her feelings to him as we see in that episode. It is not that Kikyo enjoys the feeling of hate, but that she has no choice because her clay body retains much hate so she can't help it. Kikyo's wish is to be with Inu Yasha so she would do anything she could to try to be with him although she realizes that the odds are against this happening. The fact is that she loves him and he loves her.

*During a quiet night with the group Kagome tells Inuyasha that she likes him just the way he is; as a hanyou...(from movie 2).

A friend can accept another friend just the way he is. Yet she says that she wishes he could be nicer and uses sit so many times in every other episode in order to mold him into a nicer person. In fact, this tactic works and Inu Yasha is nicer later on.

*Kaguya brings Inuyasha's demon side be sealing his human blood in a mirror. However, Kagome is able to bring him back by kissing him...(He returns her kiss!!!). (From movie 2)

Ok, this develops their relationship. I haven't seen the movie yet though .

[reddragon]

I guess you know your stuff, now can I have the thirty minutes I spent reading your post back. I have never wasted so much time on something like this before. Sheesh.

[DAM8024]

mintchoclt continued:

*When Kagome and the others(except Shippo and Kirara) are poisoned; Inuyasha is forced to separate from the group in order to protect them. On his way back, he tells Kagome to wait for him...(in his thoughts).

I don't think this is a big deal at all and it doesn't really develop their relationship. So he tells her to wait for him so that she won't get hurt or that he can protect her. He is willing to protect all his friends including Shippo, Sango, Miroku and Kagome.

*When Inuyasha reaches the temple where that group is being care for, the first person he asks about is Kagome.

We know that Kagome is closer friends with Inu Yasha compared to the others namely Shippo, Sango, Miroku. Plus, Kagome is most often the target and generally, she is weaker then the others so she is most likely to get hurt.

*Inuyasha again fights a member of the Shinntauchi. While doing so, he tells Kagome to wait for him.

*He races into the burning temple that the entire group is trapped in screaming her name.

*Inuyasha apologizes to a near death Kagome; cradling her in his arms.

*Her cries; the first time ever it seems, as explained by Myouga; when he realizes she's going to be okay.

Waiting for Kagome was already addressed as was the fact that he considers her to be a better friend then the rest of the group so that is why he shouts her name first. As for apologizing for letting her almost die, well I bring up the guilt over Kikyo’s death argument where he would not want someone who looks like Kikyo to die because of him. This is the same reason that he cries for her.

*When Kouga comes by and claims Inuyasha isn't caring for Kagome properly; Inuyasha declares he will keep her out of danger, and for him to wait and see.

*When forced to choose between protecting Kikyo or Kagome and the others; he chooses Kagome and the group.

Again, Inu Yasha is willing to protect all his friends including Shippo, Sango, Miroku and Kagome. Of course, he would try his best to keep all his friends out of danger including Kagome. He might even try harder to protect Kagome only because she is a very good friend and a closer friend to him compared to the rest of the group.

*And anytime Kouga is anywhere near Kagome, Inuyasha is green with jealousy.

I think that this is more that Inu Yasha doesn’t like Kouga. If Kouga was to give attention to Sango rather then Kagome, Inu Yasha would still make something out of it. I mean if Miroku touches Sango, even then does Inu Yasha say something about that and he doesn’t have feelings for Sango.

These to me are proof enough to show that Inuyasha cares more for Kagome then just as a friend or a simple shard detector.

Well then, I just responded to every single example you brought up. For the most part, Kagome/Inu Yasha’s actions toward each other are acts of good friends with a few that do count to further their romantic relationship. To see my examples of why Kikyo is better, go to the link I put up in my previous post.

[Greek Honeybee]

The definitive proof that no one can argue comes from Rumiko Takahashi herself: Inuyasha loves most whichever girl he's with at the time. Kagome might think she's second best to Kikyou in his heart, but she's wrong. She is just as special to him as Kikyou. No greater and no less.

[Red XIV]

Originally posted by DAM8024
I think that this is more that Inu Yasha doesn’t like Kouga. If Kouga was to give attention to Sango rather then Kagome, Inu Yasha would still make something out of it. I mean if Miroku touches Sango, even then does Inu Yasha say something about that and he doesn’t have feelings for Sango.
If you had any credibility on this particular issue, you just killed it. It seems pretty clear to me that Inuyasha doesn't like Kouga because Kouga likes Kagome. And that's the same reason Kouga doesn't like Inuyasha: he, rightly, sees Inu as a rival for Kagome's affection. In other words, you're reversing the cause and effect of the situation.

[Naegling]

Originally posted by reddragon
I guess you know your stuff, now can I have the thirty minutes I spent reading your post back. I have never wasted so much time on something like this before. Sheesh.
This is how DAM8024 usually is. -_-; Frankly, well over half the stuff he talks about is opinionated and has no or very little proof from the manga or anime.

[mintchoclt]

Originally posted by Red XIV
If you had any credibility on this particular issue, you just killed it. It seems pretty clear to me that Inuyasha doesn't like Kouga because Kouga likes Kagome. And that's the same reason Kouga doesn't like Inuyasha: he, rightly, sees Inu as a rival for Kagome's affection. In other words, you're reversing the cause and effect of the situation.

Exactly...I mean Inuyasha gets mad at Miroku for every girl he touches. Mainly because Inuyasha knows that Miroku is a twotimer. He just gets even madder when he touches Kagome.
And Inuyasha my get mad at Miroku for touching Sango, but he also doesn't seem to really care either since Inuyasha knows Sango can handle the situation all on her own. He just kind of brushes it off and thinks to himself...will you ever learn...

But the Inuyasha and Kouga thing is definately dealing with jealousy. Jealousy mainly for Inuyasha, and compitition mainly for Kouga. But Inuyasha wouldn't get jealous if there wasn't something there.

[mintchoclt]

Originally posted by Naegling
This is how DAM8024 usually is. -_-; Frankly, well over half the stuff he talks about is opinionated and has no or very little proof from the manga or anime.

I see what you mean, this has happened to me before. An frankly it is quite annoying. I hate it when all my stuff is broke down with an oppinion of each:hmph:.

[Naegling]

Originally posted by mintchoclt
I see what you mean, this has happened to me before. An frankly it is quite annoying. I hate it when all my stuff is broke down with an oppinion of each:hmph:.
You think yours is bad, go read the "^_^" thread if you have time. We have been debating with him like that for over 3 pages (with my view and I have 40 post/page).

[Nemesis2124]

I see what you mean, this has happened to me before. An frankly it is quite annoying. I hate it when all my stuff is broke down with an oppinion of each.

Even worse is when they try to disguise those opinions as fact...

[DAM8024]

Originally posted by Red XIV
If you had any credibility on this particular issue, you just killed it. It seems pretty clear to me that Inuyasha doesn't like Kouga because Kouga likes Kagome. And that's the same reason Kouga doesn't like Inuyasha: he, rightly, sees Inu as a rival for Kagome's affection. In other words, you're reversing the cause and effect of the situation.

LOL, you would like to take away my credibility because then you could forget about the 7+ Kikyo/Kagome threads where I messed you up. :) I’m not sure you should be talking about credibility when most of your posts are no more then a paragraph long with very little evidence.

Let me explain my stance better. Mintchoclt, since you have the same opinion as Big Red, you should read this part too. Inu Yasha and Kouga’s hostile relationship STARTED way before Kouga started to realize and show his feelings for Kagome. When they first met each other, Inu Yasha and Kouga became rivals NOT over Kagome. True, Kouga kidnapped Kagome, but at that point he didn’t really like Kagome or have feelings for her. His feelings for her started to develop after he spent more time with her AFTER he kidnapped her. Inu Yasha took offense because Kouga kidnapped someone very close to him and this is how they became rivals. Kouga did not even have feelings for Kagome when he first took her. The whole rivalry was not over Kagome. Sure, later on Kouga’s affection towards Kagome became an issue as well, but I feel that the main reason that Kouga and Inu Yasha hate each other is due more to how they first became enemies when Kouga kidnapped Kagome.

Originally posted by Naegling
This is how DAM8024 usually is. Frankly, well over half the stuff he talks about is opinionated and has no or very little proof from the manga or anime.

No or very little proof? You sure about that? If I had no proof, how is it that I am able to post so much in that ^ _ ^ thread that lasts pages and pages where I have about 72 posts and I am basically outnumbered 7 to 1. So everything I have brought up in there is just made up and completely without proof? Do you think that I could post so much against 7 or more people with no proof at all?

Originally posted by mintchoclt
I see what you mean, this has happened to me before. An frankly it is quite annoying. I hate it when all my stuff is broke down with an oppinion of each.

And everything you brought up is mostly opinion as well, right? :???: The only difference is my opinion is in the minority when it comes to all the opinions of Inu Yasha fans. Nevertheless, we are all posting opinions here.

Originally posted by Nemesis2124
Even worse is when they try to disguise those opinions as fact...

Well some of those facts are really facts in my opinion. However, some of them are not facts when I say they are. When I state that certain opinions of mine are fact when they clearly aren’t, I probably just got carried away. If that actually offends you, well then I apologize.

[Naegling]

Originally posted by DAM8024
Inu Yasha and Kouga’s hostile relationship STARTED way before Kouga started to realize and show his feelings for Kagome. When they first met each other, Inu Yasha and Kouga became rivals NOT over Kagome. True, Kouga kidnapped Kagome, but at that point he didn’t really like Kagome or have feelings for her. His feelings for her started to develop after he spent more time with her AFTER he kidnapped her. Inu Yasha took offense because Kouga kidnapped someone very close to him and this is how they became rivals. Kouga did not even have feelings for Kagome when he first took her. The whole rivalry was not over Kagome. Sure, later on Kouga’s affection towards Kagome became an issue as well, but I feel that the main reason that Kouga and Inu Yasha hate each other is due more to how they first became enemies when Kouga kidnapped Kagome.
I think that you need to re-watch those episodes. InuYasha didn't like when they met, this is true, however, they got along. If you watch those two interact after Kouga says that he wants Kagome as his "mate", InuYasha gets REALLY defensive and so the rivalry begins.


Originally posted by DAM8024
No or very little proof? You sure about that? If I had no proof, how is it that I am able to post so much in that ^ _ ^ thread that lasts pages and pages where I have about 72 posts and I am basically outnumbered 7 to 1. So everything I have brought up in there is just made up and completely without proof? Do you think that I could post so much against 7 or more people with no proof at all?
Actually, it is about 4 to 1 but yes, you are a minority among InuYasha fans and yes you are outnumbered. However, that does not mean that you should make up facts based on your opinion or even blur what goes on in the manga and/or anime to what you see. And, I never said it was completely without proof. I said that it had no to very little proof from the manga and/or anime. Also, the fact that you don't read the manga or even watch the movies places you at an even bigger disadvantage.


Also, might I inquire as to why you are posting here more so now than the other thread? If you have time to post here, then why not there?

[JmInuyasha]

Wow dam, from one thread to another. Still spouting out all of this nonsense. Perhaps all Kagome fans should go up to anyone who posts, I LIKE KIKYO BETTER THAN KAGOME!! And proceed to tell them that their opinion on that is completely and utterly wrong. Well, since you truly ran away from the other thread we were, “debating” in, I’ll join in on this little one.

LOL, you would like to take away my credibility because then you could forget about the 7+ Kikyo/Kagome threads where I messed you up.

Yeah…. This statement would be true if like…. You actually, “messed him up” as you say. But unfortunately, the only one doing the, “messing up” appears to be Red, being yeah, you don’t have credibility, he is correct about the Kouga and Inuyasha rivalry (I thought that was kind of obvious, but apparently, I was… wait a minuet… this is dam, so yeah, it is obvious, never mind!) And he pretty much defeated your, “argument” on that point.

I’m not sure you should be talking about credibility when most of your posts are no more then a paragraph long with very little evidence.

Yeah, he should be talking about credibility. Being that a person who just signs up for the Anime Nation forums more than likely has much more credibility than you do have. And being that post he made defeated your point on that issue, with the use of, actual common knowledge, as apposed to Dam common knowledge, I would have to say mission accomplished.

Inu Yasha and Kouga’s hostile relationship STARTED way before Kouga started to realize and show his feelings for Kagome. When they first met each other, Inu Yasha and Kouga became rivals NOT over Kagome.

Umm… then what DID they become rivals over then? Kagome was indeed kidnapped by him. So how would this not be becoming rivals over kagome?

True, Kouga kidnapped Kagome, but at that point he didn’t really like Kagome or have feelings for her. His feelings for her started to develop after he spent more time with her AFTER he kidnapped her. Inu Yasha took offense because Kouga kidnapped someone very close to him and this is how they became rivals. Kouga did not even have feelings for Kagome when he first took her. The whole rivalry was not over Kagome. Sure, later on Kouga’s affection towards Kagome became an issue as well, but I feel that the main reason that Kouga and Inu Yasha hate each other is due more to how they first became enemies when Kouga kidnapped Kagome.

Well… Lets look at this logic. Kouga versus Inuyasha is because of attempting to hurt a friend, and NOT completely over the whole Kouga having feelings for Kagome. Well now. So if Inuyasha is spiteful and completely judges people on merely first impressions… lets see… He would also hate…. Miroku, being that he attacked Kagome and Inuyasha. Sango, being that she attacked Kagome, Inuyasha, and Miroku. Shippou, since he tried to steal the Shikon no Tama shards Kagome had. And finally… Kikyo, who initially fired upon him when he was after the Shikon no Tama. Interesting. Isn’t it?

No or very little proof? You sure about that? If I had no proof, how is it that I am able to post so much in that ^ _ ^ thread that lasts pages and pages where I have about 72 posts and I am basically outnumbered 7 to 1. So everything I have brought up in there is just made up and completely without proof? Do you think that I could post so much against 7 or more people with no proof at all?

Yes Dam, you very much could, being YOU’VE BEEN DOING FOR 72 POSTS! And no, I wouldn’t say EVERYTHING you brought up there is just made up and completely without proof. I would say that, the actual, “evidence” you use against people, you exaggerate to such a large extent that it is horrible to read.

[JmInuyasha]

And everything you brought up is mostly opinion as well, right? The only difference is my opinion is in the minority when it comes to all the opinions of Inu Yasha fans. Nevertheless, we are all posting opinions here.

Well, with what mintchoclt posted. That was pretty much FACT supporting his(Correction: Her) opinion. Yes Dam, that is how you support your opinion. Not by what you do and exaggerate a large majority of any desirable points that Kikyo may have at all. And not playing stupid by saying, Oh, that wasn’t really stated that they are truly romantic with one another, so they are just merely friends bit. He was pointing out some of the things that show that Inuyasha and Kagome's relationship is indeed deep, but they are not exaggerated at all. He takes direct things from the show, and doesn’t have to create this entire scenario around them in order to make them positive points. What you did when responding to all of the points he put out was just take what he said, and put, “your interpretation of the situation” on it. So naturally you will make it out to be, the whole, just protecting a friend, situation. And the fact that, that situation can be turned around onto your, “argument” on Kikyo still remains. So the whole, just merely good friends thing, is pretty much ruined. Oh… But Inuyasha would go to hell with Kikyo. (NOTE: OPINION IN EFFECT) With that situation where Inuyasha was in fact being taken down to hell with her, it can easily be determine that maybe Inuyasha was under a trace by Kikyo. And perhaps this is why he acts completely different when he is around her. (Being from what little we have seen of their actual relationship, he does not act the way he does now a days in the show when they confront each other.) So hrm… Trying to control your thoughts through magic and enchantments so that they will do whatever it is you want that person to do (and not to mention that she may have been using Inuyasha to simply get rid of the Shikon no Tama, for it seemed as though when she was alive, she wished to lead a more, “normal” life style, rather than be forced to guard the Shikon no Tama, for she said herself, that without it, she would no longer be needed as a Miko), or use an “atrocious” sit command that makes Inuyasha into a better, kinder type of person that people can easily get along with, thus giving him what he TRULY wants. To merely be accepted by some social group… Hrm… Which is worse. (NOTE: END OPINION)

Well some of those facts are really facts in my opinion.

Um… Say what now? In your opinion, facts are really facts?

Howeverr, some of them are not facts when I say they are. When I state that certain opinions of mine are fact when they clearly aren’t, I probably just got carried away. If that actually offends you, well then I apologize.

When you do that Dam, it really doesn’t offend people, well, at least not me. Rather it just really annoys them, well, at least me. It’s pretty much like, wow, someone is going around the Inuyasha forums on Anime Nation and saying that people who like Kagome are wrong, and then posting, “facts” on why they are wrong which aren’t really facts, just something your exaggerated and or fabricated.

Now the final thought remains. Did I really need to post this? Was it necessary for me to write out all the things wrong with that? Did anyone really not see dam’s stupidity before this post? I really doubt it for some reason. Ah well, I’ll hop on in anytime I’m bored and just need a lot of good laughs. And once again dam.

GOOD FREAKING JOB! :cheers:

[Red XIV]

Originally posted by DAM8024
LOL, you would like to take away my credibility because then you could forget about the 7+ Kikyo/Kagome threads where I messed you up. :) I’m not sure you should be talking about credibility when most of your posts are no more then a paragraph long with very little evidence.
Quality over quantity, DAM. One paragraph was more than sufficient to make my point and disprove yours, so why should I try to pad it for more length? The arguement that contains more words isn't necessarily the better one.

Originally posted by DAM8024
Let me explain my stance better. Mintchoclt, since you have the same opinion as Big Red, you should read this part too. Inu Yasha and Kouga’s hostile relationship STARTED way before Kouga started to realize and show his feelings for Kagome. When they first met each other, Inu Yasha and Kouga became rivals NOT over Kagome. True, Kouga kidnapped Kagome, but at that point he didn’t really like Kagome or have feelings for her. His feelings for her started to develop after he spent more time with her AFTER he kidnapped her. Inu Yasha took offense because Kouga kidnapped someone very close to him and this is how they became rivals. Kouga did not even have feelings for Kagome when he first took her. The whole rivalry was not over Kagome. Sure, later on Kouga’s affection towards Kagome became an issue as well, but I feel that the main reason that Kouga and Inu Yasha hate each other is due more to how they first became enemies when Kouga kidnapped Kagome.
Naegling and JmInuyasha said everything that needs to be said on this subject. I especially like JmInuyasha's point about how Shippou, Miroku, Sango, and Kikyo all initially attacked Inuyasha and/or people close to him, yet he became friends with them (or more, in Kikyo's case). I could make my own counter, by why be repetitive? The point has already been made, so rewording it one more time wouldn't accomplish anything.

[mintchoclt]

Well DAM....pretty much everything that I had said happened in the show so basically they are fact. And the little tid bits that I put at the end are my personal opinion and what I got out of what I saw.

Why should it matter whether or not I am right or wrong, that's why they are called 'opinions'. And I just hope and pray that my opinions turn out right....:D

Well, with what mintchoclt posted. That was pretty much FACT supporting his opinion.

And JmInu it's her opinion...not his opinion.:DJust thought I let you know. And you are absolutely right. And I thought it was absolutely hilarious how you were noting where your opinions begin and end. :lol: It was very thoughtful of you to point that out.;)

:cheers: to JmInuyasha and Naegling...very well put...your comebacks were awesome. Couldn't have said it better myself.

[JmInuyasha]

Red, in all honesty, I sort of look up to you in how you are able to keep such a cool head in your posts it seems, and just write so little, yet say so much at the same time.

Sorry about that Mintchoclt, I will correct that for you immediately.

Also, might I inquire as to why you are posting here more so now than the other thread? If you have time to post here, then why not there?

Well, it may have to do with me being next on the, “list” of people to respond to, but unfortunately he has about 9+ really long posts of mine to respond to in that thread. Not to mention the additional 3 that I just added for him. (ain’t I such a nice guy?) And we pretty much know how Dam works by now. But unfortunately, he probably has many debate class midterms that he has to take (you just know how proud he is of those debate classes he took and/or is taking), or to many political scandals to attend to. Wouldn’t Dam just be the perfect candidate for some sort of electoral office position? He could really use his exaggeration skills fully then with all the campaign ads he could easily do and all. I mean, who else do you know can really make one, slightly good point seem like many fantastic different points on the outside, but once analyzed, really bad on the inside? Just amazing.

Or, I guess he may have been re-listening to that song from a while back. What was it now? Ah yes. Let me quote it to save me a little bit of time.

So when I first saw your last post in this thread, a song came to mind that is quite appropriate I think to describe JmInuyasha's situation. It is by the Real McCoy.

Run away, run away,
run away and save your life
Run away, run away,
Run away
if you want to survive

It's time to break free,
oh oh oh
Run away,
oh oh oh
You better break free,
oh oh oh
Run away,
oh oh oh

In fact, I'm listening to it now.

I believe this may have a little to do with it. Perhaps. Well, at least when I, “ran away” as you so put it, it was merely because I was quite tired of typing NO DAM! I NEVER SAID INUYASHA WAS A DOG AND KAGOME A DOG TRAINER! But apparently, 5 or so times isn’t enough to get that across to Dam. But oh well, its just him, “using my own comparisons against me” thing that he does. Ah well. What goes around, comes around eh, Dam? And no, I’m not listening to the song as he apparently was for some unknown reason; actually, right now I’m listening to In Flames – Satellites and Astronauts. Ah, helps fuel the disgust towards him. Very nice.

On a side note. If you were a reader of the “^__^” thread. Isn’t it sort of funny how I initially was the immature idiot who was just ranting along and Dam was the slightly cooler headed one. And now it just plain seems the tides have turned? I don’t know, I just found that really funny for some reason.

And yet still ONCE AGAIN DAM!

GOOD FREAKING JOB!:cheers:

[mintchoclt]

Thank you very much JMInu...I appriciate that very much. ;)

I tried last night to read some of the posts under the '^__^' thread, but it was just to plain exhausting. I don't know how you can stand it. I was getting a headache after reading some of the comments that 'some' people made. I am not going to mean and name people...coughdamcough...hehehe. But yeah I needed like an elephant sized headache reliever after that one. WOW.

One major thing I had a debate about before is that Kikyo when she came back to 'life', how she stole Kagome's soul to be able to walk around. And this other person was saying how the soul is Kikyo's so she is only taking her soul back. They were also saying how the soul was never Kagome's to begin with.

Man did I have a debate out of that one. A lot of people were tring to convince her that Kikyo is dead and her soul now belongs to her reincarnation. That it is NOT kikyo's anymore. This person drove me up the wall.

[Migumi-chan]

Definitely Kagome!I hate her but it's true!Kikyo's a lot better but she's really dead and her bodies made of clay for crying out!Inu-yasha spends more time with Kagome rather than Kikyo because of Naraku anyway so he'll probably end up loving Kagome more than her.Kikyo's prettier though. Die Naraku!

[mintchoclt]

Just in case you all are interested in the kissing scene between Inuyasha and Kagome in the second movie here is the website to go to for the screen caps:

http://kuroi-hoshi.org/inukiss.html

But just in case you want to wait to see the movie for yourself, I suggest you skip this...there are a lot of spoilers.

[DAM8024]

Haha, ok JmInuyasha. You are partially right here. It does seem as if I ran away but this was only because you were really proud of the fact that you were "top priority" so that I would respond to you before other people who deserved a response. As a result, I decided to put you into "last priority" and it is now about a month and I still haven't responded to your posts in the ^ _ ^ thread. :lol: I have been working on those responses to you for many weeks now so I think it almost time to post them. Look within the next few days for my responses to you in the ^ _ ^ thread JmInuyasha. I am sure you will enjoy them. I will take care of those before I respond here.

Just to note. I may be immature at times, but I would rarely go so far to blatantly flame or insult other forum members as you did with akwan50 making fun of his screen name and calling him names. I say rarely because you are the exception. I will blatantly insult you because that is how you treated me at first even though I tried to be civilized with you.

[Nemesis2124]

That's some frightening stuff there JMinuyasha. You should probably hightail it out of here right about now... DAM might come back and "spank you" with 16 full sized posts of "common sense". :lol:

[mintchoclt]

Let's get back to the topic at hand here. This thread is turning out to be more of a way to spam other people if anything.

Question: Do you believe that the soul that now occupies Kagome's body belongs to Kagome now because she is Kikyo's reincarnation, or does the soul still belong to Kikyo even though she is dead?

This was an on going debate I had with a girl in another forum. Just curious to here other peoples oppinions on the matter.

[meowchi]

Originally posted by mintchoclt
Let's get back to the topic at hand here. This thread is turning out to be more of a way to spam other people if anything.

Question: Do you believe that the soul that now occupies Kagome's body belongs to Kagome now because she is Kikyo's reincarnation, or does the soul still belong to Kikyo even though she is dead?

This was an on going debate I had with a girl in another forum. Just curious to here other peoples oppinions on the matter.
Seems to me that this is a trick question: meaning that when kagome is in her own time the soul is truly hers alone, but in the feudal era, it more or less belongs to Kikyo.
I say this because if it weren't for her being Kikyo's reincarnation then she would have never been able to get back to that time. So it only makes sence that her only purpose in the past has to do with Kikyo.

[Greek Honeybee]

The soul belongs to the both of them equally, I think. It was always Kagome's and it will always be Kikyou's. But Kikyou is dead, and someone up there decided it should go to Kagome. Urasue had no right to go against that descision. So, though it may always be Kikyou's as much as it is Kagome's, I think it does belongs with Kagome more now.

[SoulfulFX]

I say let them draw lots for it.

[DAM8024]

Naegling:

I think that you need to re-watch those episodes. InuYasha didn't like when they met, this is true, however, they got along. If you watch those two interact after Kouga says that he wants Kagome as his "mate", InuYasha gets REALLY defensive and so the rivalry begins.

What I said is accurate. Inu Yasha and Kouga’s rivalry STARTED when Kouga kidnapped Kagome before Kouga even began to develop feelings for her. It did NOT start when Kouga developed feelings for Kagome. Of course, having feelings for Kagome fueled their rivalry, but they rivalry had already began much before that. This is my reasoning and it works.

Actually, it is about 4 to 1 but yes, you are a minority among InuYasha fans and yes you are outnumbered. However, that does not mean that you should make up facts based on your opinion or even blur what goes on in the manga and/or anime to what you see. And, I never said it was completely without proof. I said that it had no to very little proof from the manga and/or anime. Also, the fact that you don't read the manga or even watch the movies places you at an even bigger disadvantage.

Also, might I inquire as to why you are posting here more so now than the other thread? If you have time to post here, then why not there?

Most of what I say is opinion and I only claim some of it is fact. You and many others here exaggerate how much I claim my opinions are fact. Furthermore, I blur as much as you do or other fans about Kikyo and how horrible she is. The fact is she is not all that horrible, but many fans make her out to be one of the worst villains in the series so that she should die or remain dead. Isn’t that some good blurring there? What about those people? I don’t think you say much about what they do either. As for proof, I provide enough of it to back up what I say and I guess I had more then enough to use against about 7 people at the same time for pages and pages. I don’t read the manga, but it’s simpler then. Whatever I bring up refers to the anime more then the manga. I have watched the first movie and I know about the big Kagome/Inu Yasha moment in the second so I don’t think I’m at a disadvantage as much as you think.

JmInuyasha:

Wow dam, from one thread to another. Still spouting out all of this nonsense. Perhaps all Kagome fans should go up to anyone who posts, I LIKE KIKYO BETTER THAN KAGOME!! And proceed to tell them that their opinion on that is completely and utterly wrong. Well, since you truly ran away from the other thread we were, “debating” in, I’ll join in on this little one.

JmInuyasha, I did post in the other thread but my responses to you were so harsh that the whole thread got deleted. Haha. :lol: Check out this link for an update.

About the ^ _ ^ Thread (http://animenation.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=123761)

So I did respond, but the moderators saved you from reading them. It has been suggested that I send you my responses through private messages and I think I will do that. In fact, perhaps we should have done this through private messages from the beginning because obviously you take what I say personally as you did register on this forum solely for the purpose of "disrespecting" me. I will also want responses from you. Until then, I must tone down my attitude toward you in public threads.

Yeah…. This statement would be true if like…. You actually, “messed him up” as you say. But unfortunately, the only one doing the, “messing up” appears to be Red, being yeah, you don’t have credibility, he is correct about the Kouga and Inuyasha rivalry (I thought that was kind of obvious, but apparently, I was… wait a minuet… this is dam, so yeah, it is obvious, never mind!) And he pretty much defeated your, “argument” on that point.

Actually I don’t think he was right. I explained it to Naegling why my reasoning makes sense. Go read what I wrote there. As for Red, I was half joking when I said I messed him up before many times. However, it is true that when Red posts, he only posts short paragraphs that do not address all my points! As a result, if he does not answer all my points, then he gives up on those points allowing me to score wins for Kikyo! :cheers: He is much like you. I post paragraphs and he responds with little and not even answering everything I wrote This is why his credibility is less then mine and why I mess him up.

Yeah, he should be talking about credibility. Being that a person who just signs up for the Anime Nation forums more than likely has much more credibility than you do have. And being that post he made defeated your point on that issue, with the use of, actual common knowledge, as apposed to Dam common knowledge, I would have to say mission accomplished.[/B]

A person who just signed up like you? Haha, well we all know you were unable to respond to a whole lot of my posts in that huge debate thread and that you brought up evidence that supported my side of the argument so mission accomplished for you I guess. Haha

[QUOTE] Umm… then what DID they become rivals over then? Kagome was indeed kidnapped by him. So how would this not be becoming rivals over kagome?

Simply because Kouga kidnapped one of Inu Yasha’s party, but Kouga did not develop feelings for Kagome when he first kidnapped her therefore the rivalry did not start over winning Kagome romantically. It started with Kouga’s kidnapping and the two do not go hand in hand. Later on, Kouga developed feelings for Kagome but that only fueled the rivalry and did not start it.

Well… Lets look at this logic. Kouga versus Inuyasha is because of attempting to hurt a friend, and NOT completely over the whole Kouga having feelings for Kagome. Well now. So if Inuyasha is spiteful and completely judges people on merely first impressions… lets see… He would also hate…. Miroku, being that he attacked Kagome and Inuyasha. Sango, being that she attacked Kagome, Inuyasha, and Miroku. Shippou, since he tried to steal the Shikon no Tama shards Kagome had. And finally… Kikyo, who initially fired upon him when he was after the Shikon no Tama. Interesting. Isn’t it?

First off, we were talking about how their rivalry started. It started before Kouga developed feelings for Kagome or declared his love for her openly. Furthermore, your examples with Miroku, Sango and Shippo don’t work because they became friends with Inu Yasha and even helped him in his quest to kill Naraku and find Shikon shards. Kouga did no such thing as he continues to taunt Inu Yasha by calling him a smelly dog or something and he continues to provoke Inu Yasha with many insults in addition to the Kagome thing. Unlike Miroku, Sango and Shippo, Kouga did not become friends with Inu Yasha. This is the key difference. Kouga and Inu Yasha started out as rivals and continued to be rivals with fuel such as the Kagome issue and Kouga/Inu Yasha taunting each other.

Note: It is good that you attempt to use reasoning of mine. This argument here is similar to mine own where I say that Inu Yasha would save the life of Kagome just as he would save Miroku, Sango and Shippo. Good freaking job I guess :cheers:

Yes Dam, you very much could, being YOU’VE BEEN DOING FOR 72 POSTS! And no, I wouldn’t say EVERYTHING you brought up there is just made up and completely without proof. I would say that, the actual, “evidence” you use against people, you exaggerate to such a large extent that it is horrible to read.

Like I told Naegling, many fans of the show who do not take part in these debates have said that Kikyo is the worst villain ever and that she should die as she is a b*tch. It goes on and on and aren’t these fans exaggerating as well??? Perhaps they don’t post as much as I do, but they commit the exact crime that you accuse me of doing. In fact, this is why I started to exaggerate some of my points because these fans did it before I did even. Yes, I am referring to past Kikyo/Kagome debates.

[DAM8024]

JmInuyasha continued:

Well, with what mintchoclt posted. That was pretty much FACT supporting his(Correction: Her) opinion. Yes Dam, that is how you support your opinion. Not by what you do and exaggerate a large majority of any desirable points that Kikyo may have at all. And not playing stupid by saying, Oh, that wasn’t really stated that they are truly romantic with one another, so they are just merely friends bit. He was pointing out some of the things that show that Inuyasha and Kagome's relationship is indeed deep, but they are not exaggerated at all. He takes direct things from the show, and doesn’t have to create this entire scenario around them in order to make them positive points. What you did when responding to all of the points he put out was just take what he said, and put, “your interpretation of the situation” on it. So naturally you will make it out to be, the whole, just protecting a friend, situation. And the fact that, that situation can be turned around onto your, “argument” on Kikyo still remains. So the whole, just merely good friends thing, is pretty much ruined. Oh… But Inuyasha would go to hell with Kikyo. (NOTE: OPINION IN EFFECT) With that situation where Inuyasha was in fact being taken down to hell with her, it can easily be determine that maybe Inuyasha was under a trace by Kikyo. And perhaps this is why he acts completely different when he is around her. (Being from what little we have seen of their actual relationship, he does not act the way he does now a days in the show when they confront each other.) So hrm… Trying to control your thoughts through magic and enchantments so that they will do whatever it is you want that person to do (and not to mention that she may have been using Inuyasha to simply get rid of the Shikon no Tama, for it seemed as though when she was alive, she wished to lead a more, “normal” life style, rather than be forced to guard the Shikon no Tama, for she said herself, that without it, she would no longer be needed as a Miko), or use an “atrocious” sit command that makes Inuyasha into a better, kinder type of person that people can easily get along with, thus giving him what he TRULY wants. To merely be accepted by some social group… Hrm… Which is worse. (NOTE: END OPINION)

No, what mintchoclt posted was her opinion or interpretation of many incidents between Kagome and Inu Yasha. While some of them do progress their relationship romantically as I did admit some of them did, many of them do not have to be interpreted as straight up romance. It is interesting to note here that you push that you are pushing that arguments on your side are fact whereas mine are only opinion. Furthermore, I did admit that some scenes like Kagome and Inu Yasha kissing in the second movie do progress their romantic relationship. Get it straight. What mintchoclt does is exactly what I do. She presents her interpretation of events and I present mine own interpretation. Many of her interpretations are not facts but valid opinions as mine are. Also, Kikyo and Inu Yasha are not just friends. If you watched the show, you would see that they have a genuinely close and intimate history that completely rules out the possibility that they are just friends.

As for your opinion, well you should know my response and I remember saying this to you before without a response, but Kikyo was desperate as anyone in her position would be so that she tried only once to drag him down to hell with her. Only once was she desperate but not more then once. He acts the same way he does with her now then he did with her back then, which is lovingly because he was and is still in love with her. Back then, they shared many intimate moments together and they still share brief intimate moments as much as time allows them to. Remember trying to control him with magic only once and I believe that he was willing to go to hell with her even under enchantment because later on when he is fully conscious of himself, he tells Kaede that it may be his fate to go to hell with Kikyo. Ridding herself of the Shikon might be partially true, but the fact and this is really a fact, is that she loved Inu Yasha as he loved her too so she really did want to be with him. The "atrocious" sit command is just the word you used right there, atrocious. It is wrong to forcefully use such a power to mold Inu Yasha into what Kagome wants him to be. As for Kikyo fitting in, she already fit in fine with the village that she protects. Perhaps she was getting sick of miko duties or she wanted to live a more normal life, but it is true that she did love Inu Yasha.

Um… Say what now? In your opinion, facts are really facts?

That’s how I see it. Of course, you will disagree with everything I say. Then again, to disagree with me, you’ll also bring up points that support me.

When you do that Dam, it really doesn’t offend people, well, at least not me. Rather it just really annoys them, well, at least me. It’s pretty much like, wow, someone is going around the Inuyasha forums on Anime Nation and saying that people who like Kagome are wrong, and then posting, “facts” on why they are wrong which aren’t really facts, just something your exaggerated and or fabricated.

Now the final thought remains. Did I really need to post this? Was it necessary for me to write out all the things wrong with that? Did anyone really not see dam’s stupidity before this post? I really doubt it for some reason. Ah well, I’ll hop on in anytime I’m bored and just need a lot of good laughs. And once again dam.

GOOD FREAKING JOB!

First off, I wasn’t apologizing to you. I don’t care what you think since we have a mutual disrespect thing going. Nemesis is who I was addressing and he is one out of 3 people who I might have possibly offended by saying my opinions were facts when they were not. You need to realize that I don’t use that line as often as you say. I rarely ever say that "my opinions are facts." I might say the fact is this or that, but I really do thinks those are facts. However, to Nemesis I might have used that line inaccurately and thus the apology though I think after writing 16 posts responding to him, there will no forgiveness :lol:. Also, I only say people are downright wrong if they start saying that I am wrong.

Before you start laughing, remember that you could not respond to a whole lot of my posts which shows your utter lack of intelligence. Nemesis, Greek Honeybee and many others have done much better then you. Remember that you brought up a great point for me by comparing Inu Yasha to a dog and Kagome to a dog trainer. Remember that you used the word "atrocious”" n this thread to describe Kagome’s sits, which also supports my point. Finally, realize that you were lucky in that the mods deleted the entire ^ _ ^ thread where I posted by responses to you in a harsh and offensive manner. Remembering all of that might make you cry so it would be better to push it all out of your little head and laugh about it instead.

Red XIV:

Quality over quantity, DAM. One paragraph was more than sufficient to make my point and disprove yours, so why should I try to pad it for more length? The arguement that contains more words isn't necessarily the better one.

Sure quality over quantity, but you fail to realize that when you don’t address half of my points that I bring up in my posts, you essentially give me those points. If you continue to address half of all my points or less much of the time, in the end I have more then you do. This has been the pattern in almost all threads that you and I have participated in about Kikyo.

Naegling and JmInuyasha said everything that needs to be said on this subject. I especially like JmInuyasha's point about how Shippou, Miroku, Sango, and Kikyo all initially attacked Inuyasha and/or people close to him, yet he became friends with them (or more, in Kikyo's case). I could make my own counter, by why be repetitive? The point has already been made, so rewording it one more time wouldn't accomplish anything.

Yes well I addressed his point fine. You should go read it too. Less work for you, but that’s how it’s always been. You use other people’s points well. I remember when I had that great debate with Dragon Mage and she did bring up a great point which I coincided to her, you started using it from then on.

[DAM8024]

mintchoclt:

Well DAM....pretty much everything that I had said happened in the show so basically they are fact. And the little tid bits that I put at the end are my personal opinion and what I got out of what I saw.

Why should it matter whether or not I am right or wrong, that's why they are called 'opinions'. And I just hope and pray that my opinions turn out right....

Everything you said did happen, but to say that every one of those incidents develops Kagome/Inu Yasha’s relationship romantically is opinion. I mean a lot of those incidents happened when they first met and it is very unlikely that two people who just meet can start up in a romantic, intimate relationship right off the bat and especially not Kagome and Inu Yasha. I mean in other romance anime, the main characters do get into relationships quickly but that’s different. There has to be a close friendship phase before they can get intimate enough to become a couple. I interpreted many of those incidents to develop their friendship and not their romantic relationship. This is my opinion.

And JmInu it's her opinion...not his opinion. Just thought I let you know. And you are absolutely right. And I thought it was absolutely hilarious how you were noting where your opinions begin and end. It was very thoughtful of you to point that out.

to JmInuyasha and Naegling...very well put...your comebacks were awesome. Couldn't have said it better myself.

Yea I guess he was noting where opinions begin and end. Judging by your last paragraph, maybe you should also note where opinions begin and end.

JmInuyasha continued:

Red, in all honesty, I sort of look up to you in how you are able to keep such a cool head in your posts it seems, and just write so little, yet say so much at the same time.

Sorry about that Mintchoclt, I will correct that for you immediately.

Haha :lol: Indeed, we must make up a saying that goes "a few words equals a thousands words." Also JmInuyasha, you need to go back to your post because you only corrected it in the first sentence but then for the rest of the post, you refer to mintchoclt as "he."

Well, it may have to do with me being next on the, “list” of people to respond to, but unfortunately he has about 9+ really long posts of mine to respond to in that thread. Not to mention the additional 3 that I just added for him. (ain’t I such a nice guy?) And we pretty much know how Dam works by now. But unfortunately, he probably has many debate class midterms that he has to take (you just know how proud he is of those debate classes he took and/or is taking), or to many political scandals to attend to. Wouldn’t Dam just be the perfect candidate for some sort of electoral office position? He could really use his exaggeration skills fully then with all the campaign ads he could easily do and all. I mean, who else do you know can really make one, slightly good point seem like many fantastic different points on the outside, but once analyzed, really bad on the inside? Just amazing.

Or, I guess he may have been re-listening to that song from a while back. What was it now? Ah yes. Let me quote it to save me a little bit of time.

Yea I told you about my responses to those. It is possible that I will send them to you via private message. That is if you even know about private messages in this forum. With all the time that you spend crying and venting over my posts, you might not know all the features of this forum. Also note that I have never taken debate before, but I recommend that you do take it as it would help you greatly. As for the electoral position, that’s pretty funny. I guess it’s somewhat of a compliment too and I agree politicians might use the same tactics that I would use. The difference is I don’t think my points are quite that contrived or full of BS though it is obvious some will disagree with me on this.

I believe this may have a little to do with it. Perhaps. Well, at least when I, “ran away” as you so put it, it was merely because I was quite tired of typing NO DAM! I NEVER SAID INUYASHA WAS A DOG AND KAGOME A DOG TRAINER! But apparently, 5 or so times isn’t enough to get that across to Dam. But oh well, its just him, “using my own comparisons against me” thing that he does. Ah well. What goes around, comes around eh, Dam? And no, I’m not listening to the song as he apparently was for some unknown reason; actually, right now I’m listening to In Flames – Satellites and Astronauts. Ah, helps fuel the disgust towards him. Very nice.

On a side note. If you were a reader of the “^__^” thread. Isn’t it sort of funny how I initially was the immature idiot who was just ranting along and Dam was the slightly cooler headed one. And now it just plain seems the tides have turned? I don’t know, I just found that really funny for some reason.

And yet still ONCE AGAIN DAM!

GOOD FREAKING JOB!

Haha, well you did say it. I have most of the thread saved and you did make that exact comparison. As you would say "good freaking job." :cheers: Using comparisons against you wouldn’t be so easy if you didn’t let me. Hahaha. As for In Flames, Moonshield is a good song and I would recommend listening to it while smashing your room apart in frustration of reading these posts. As for immaturity, I already showed how you were much more immature then was with the exception of the posts I did recently.

mintchoclt

Thank you very much JMInu...I appriciate that very much.

I tried last night to read some of the posts under the '^__^' thread, but it was just to plain exhausting. I don't know how you can stand it. I was getting a headache after reading some of the comments that 'some' people made. I am not going to mean and name people...coughdamcough...hehehe. But yeah I needed like an elephant sized headache reliever after that one. WOW.

One major thing I had a debate about before is that Kikyo when she came back to 'life', how she stole Kagome's soul to be able to walk around. And this other person was saying how the soul is Kikyo's so she is only taking her soul back. They were also saying how the soul was never Kagome's to begin with.

Man did I have a debate out of that one. A lot of people were tring to convince her that Kikyo is dead and her soul now belongs to her reincarnation. That it is NOT kikyo's anymore. This person drove me up the wall.

Well all the Kagome fans have great love for each other. In the ^ _ ^, the number of people didn’t matter and it was a great debate on both sides. Too bad it’s gone now. Good memories. As for Kikyo’s and Kagome’s soul, I basically agree with meowchi’s stance on Kikyo’s soul belonging more to Kikyo in the feudal era and Kagome’s soul belonging to Kagome’s in the present time. The past does have to do with Kikyo.

[SoulfulFX]

I'm just stating the obvious...but time travel really complicates life. :lol:

[Greek Honeybee]

It certainly complicates forum threads! :dizzy:

[SoulfulFX]

Originally posted by Greek Honeybee
It certainly complicates forum threads! :dizzy:

Come...join me...we can throw philosophy books (hard-cover) at the person who thought time-travel up. Then we can go back in time and prevent his birth...or...would that prevent us from preventing him from being born?

AHHHHH!!!! :twitch:

[Greek Honeybee]

:lol: "I HATE temporal mechanics!"

[SoulfulFX]

Originally posted by Greek Honeybee
:lol: "I HATE temporal mechanics!"

Do you mean the physics or mechanics who fix time machines? :lol:

[Greek Honeybee]

Well you know I just can't stand to see their butt-cracks while they work. Just because they're from Starfleet doesn't make them refined scientists and all... :D

Hold on.. Are we spamming again? (This thread needed it!)

[SoulfulFX]

Originally posted by Greek Honeybee
Well you know I just can't stand to see their butt-cracks while they work. Just because they're from Starfleet doesn't make them refined scientists and all... :D

Hold on.. Are we spamming again? (This thread needed it!)

*freaks on the word spam*
Shhh... :uhoh:
*points to sky*
They have spies, that they do. :look:

But yeah...the mechanics need a code of conduct or something like that.

[Greek Honeybee]

:spam:

Or at least a good anti-gravity belt or two...

...Okay, I'll stop. :blush:

[SoulfulFX]

Hey..time travel is a perfectly legitimate discussion for this thread considering Kagome and IY both use it.

[Greek Honeybee]

Well, maybe. But that last joke was still bad. :dead:

[SoulfulFX]

Originally posted by Greek Honeybee
Well, maybe. But that last joke was still bad. :dead:

Hey, I laughed at it :look: :lol:

[Greek Honeybee]

Originally posted by WrestleSFX
Hey, I laughed at it :look: :lol: Heh! Thanks! :D

[SoulfulFX]

Any time...

I just thought of something...

You notice how whatever Kagome does in the past seems to have absolutely no effect on her own time?

This could give creedence to the fact that she's in a self-fulfilling prophecy or something like that

[Greek Honeybee]

That's my take on it. Inuyasha wasn't still sealed to the tree when Kagome was little because this adventure had already come and gone 500 years before. Since Naraku isn't around in modern times, that means they've already destroyed him in some way that will only be revealed as the story goes.

You see, it really wasn't by accident that her and Inuyasha met. Everything that's been happening to her in the past has been predestined.

[SoulfulFX]

Originally posted by Greek Honeybee
That's my take on it. Inuyasha wasn't still sealed to the tree when Kagome was little because this adventure had already come and gone 500 years before. Since Naraku isn't around in modern times, that means they've already destroyed him in some way that will only be revealed as the story goes.

You see, it really wasn't by accident that her and Inuyasha met. Everything that's been happening to her in the past has been predestined.

Destiny...it always seems to come down to that.

[mintchoclt]

Originally posted by WrestleSFX
Any time...

I just thought of something...

You notice how whatever Kagome does in the past seems to have absolutely no effect on her own time?

This could give creedence to the fact that she's in a self-fulfilling prophecy or something like that

Yeah...I noticed that too. Since any movie you go see in theaters they always say don't change the past for it will change our future.

[mintchoclt]

Originally posted by Greek Honeybee
That's my take on it. Inuyasha wasn't still sealed to the tree when Kagome was little because this adventure had already come and gone 500 years before. Since Naraku isn't around in modern times, that means they've already destroyed him in some way that will only be revealed as the story goes.

You see, it really wasn't by accident that her and Inuyasha met. Everything that's been happening to her in the past has been predestined.

Now this is an absolutely brilliant assumption...:cheers:

That idea never even crossed my mind...and now that I have read this, it could be a possiblity that it was preordained.

BRILLIANT BRILLIANT BRILLIANT....:D

*SIDENOTE* Destiny...I LOVE that word...hehehe

[meowchi]

Originally posted by DAM8024
mintchoclt:
As for Kikyo’s and Kagome’s soul, I basically agree with meowchi’s stance on Kikyo’s soul belonging more to Kikyo in the feudal era and Kagome’s soul belonging to Kagome’s in the present time. The past does have to do with Kikyo.
:cheers: I'm glad that I am not the only one that saw some logic in my post.

[SoulfulFX]

Bah, logic...life is too short for logic. Or is it just long enough for logic? ;)


Anyway...I agree with meowchi...the soul and body are linked entities so even though Kagome has inherited Kikyo's reincarnated soul...once it's hers...it's hers.

[meowchi]

Originally posted by WrestleSFX
Any time...

I just thought of something...

You notice how whatever Kagome does in the past seems to have absolutely no effect on her own time?

This could give creedence to the fact that she's in a self-fulfilling prophecy or something like that
I have wondered that same thing myself. And to those of you who said it was Destiny or Fate.. I think we are on to some thing here. ;)

[SoulfulFX]

Originally posted by meowchi
I have wondered that same thing myself. And to those of you who said it was Destiny or Fate.. I think we are on to some thing here. ;)

I'm sure some ancient monk/priest/priestess wrote it down in some obscure prophecy...that's the way these things work. ;)

[Greek Honeybee]

Originally posted by mintchoclt
Now this is an absolutely brilliant assumption...:cheers: Uh, wow, thanks! *hoping that's not sarcasm*

I'd like to think that Inuyasha's dad might've had something to do with this whole reincarnation/time-travel thing happening. He was powerful enough. Maybe pulled some strings in the afterlife in a plan to get Inuyasha freed from that spell. It's what any good father would do, right?

And his mother's spirit has guided Kagome, raising her to be a good woman for her son so that she could heal his heart and give him a place he belongs.

...Okay, NOT LIKELY, but it's a cute thought. :blush:

[SoulfulFX]

Originally posted by Greek Honeybee
Uh, wow, thanks! *hoping that's not sarcasm*

I'd like to think that Inuyasha's dad might've had something to do with this whole reincarnation/time-travel thing happening. He was powerful enough. Maybe pulled some strings in the afterlife in a plan to get Inuyasha freed from that spell. It's what any good father would do, right?

And his mother's spirit has guided Kagome, raising her to be a good woman for her son so that she could heal his heart and give him a place he belongs.

...Okay, NOT LIKELY, but it's a cute thought. :blush:

In other words IY's parents set him up. ;)

[Greek Honeybee]

Originally posted by WrestleSFX
In other words IY's parents set him up. ;) Hey, prearranged marriage was pretty common back then. :D

[mintchoclt]

Originally posted by Greek Honeybee
Uh, wow, thanks! *hoping that's not sarcasm*

I'd like to think that Inuyasha's dad might've had something to do with this whole reincarnation/time-travel thing happening. He was powerful enough. Maybe pulled some strings in the afterlife in a plan to get Inuyasha freed from that spell. It's what any good father would do, right?

And his mother's spirit has guided Kagome, raising her to be a good woman for her son so that she could heal his heart and give him a place he belongs.

...Okay, NOT LIKELY, but it's a cute thought. :blush:

OH NO!!! That was most definately NOT sarcasm.

And it does seem to be an arranged marriage. ANd does make you wonder if his parents had anything to do with this. and you are right...it is cute... :blush: :crush:

[SakuraXKatana]

I personally think that Inuyasha should be with Kagome. Well, not really sure with my answer though. I dont hate Kikyo, nor do I even hate Kagome. Kikyo has to move on anyways. she cant keep sticking with her past, which is Inuyasha. Besides, Kagome has helped Inuyasha more than Kikyo. no offense to Kikyo. But then again, it's gonna be up to the creator to choose who Inuyasha goes with. Or Inuyasha...

[Naegling]

DAM, do you really want to continue the arguement? Honestly...they deleted the thread because of all your posts. [sigh]

[DAM8024]

Originally posted by Naegling
DAM, do you really want to continue the arguement? Honestly...they deleted the thread because of all your posts. [sigh]

Actually Naegling, you should notice that they only deleted one of the Kikyo/Kagome debate threads recently and it's obvious that it was due to my flaming and offensive posts to JmInuyasha who has been treating me with disrespect the whole time he's been here.

Besides that one, I have never seen any other debate threads deleted in all the time I've been here, which is over a year. The point is as long as we keep posts civil and intelligent, we won't have problems. Feel free to not read these threads if it bothers you that much.

[SoulfulFX]

Originally posted by Greek Honeybee
Hey, prearranged marriage was pretty common back then. :D

It sure was...c'mon..Miroku was asking a 13 year old (I think that girl was 13...Kagome said she was at least younger than herself) to bear his child! :uhoh:

Still...Kagome has no problem bringing IY home to her parent/family...but IY can't show her off to his parents. Well...I guess he sort of shows her off to his dead dad when she pulls out the tetsusaiga...that's something to go on.

Anyway...I'm rambling...

[Iyora7]

Kagome, definately Kagome. Kikyo's just so... well... dead...

[meowchi]

:lol: that she is!

[SoulfulFX]

Originally posted by Iyora7
Kagome, definately Kagome. Kikyo's just so... well... dead...

Kikyo: "Damned etherial plane" :dead:

[Greek Honeybee]

Originally posted by WrestleSFX
Still...Kagome has no problem bringing IY home to her parent/family...but IY can't show her off to his parents. Well...I guess he sort of shows her off to his dead dad when she pulls out the tetsusaiga...that's something to go on.

Anyway...I'm rambling... Rambling is good. Spamming is bad, but I think rambling is still okay. :spin:

I think it's pretty funny that Kagome's folks don't find it strange at all that she's involved with a half-demon guy. Right from the start they fall in love with him, treat him like a member of the family, like he's always been there. I love it!

And Inuyasha will get the opportunity to introduce her to his mother and father in the third movie since they supposedly come back from the dead. 8)

Sesshoumaru seems to have some respect for her, at least. For the fact that she'll stand up to him like he's nothing to protect Inu if she has to.

[SoulfulFX]

Originally posted by Greek Honeybee
Rambling is good. Spamming is bad, but I think rambling is still okay. :spin:

I think it's pretty funny that Kagome's folks don't find it strange at all that she's involved with a half-demon guy. Right from the start they fall in love with him, treat him like a member of the family, like he's always been there. I love it!

And Inuyasha will get the opportunity to introduce her to his mother and father in the third movie since they supposedly come back from the dead. 8)

Sesshoumaru seems to have some respect for her, at least. For the fact that she'll stand up to him like he's nothing to protect Inu if she has to.

I think the mother is ok with it because of his ears. She says herself how cute they are...besides the rubbing them part. ^_^

Sota is easy to figure...IY is a cool hero for him. :ssj:

The grandfather seems to believe his own ramblings on spirit stories. Though I always get the impression that he knows more about what's going on, even though he doesn't fight against it very well. -_-;

Will or have those IY movies been dubbed and made available in the US... and when? <--this must be asked a million times, but indulge me. ;)

As I have said frequently, I've still only seen the merest fraction of the series...but does Sesshomaru become aware of her abilities such as with the sacred arrows?

Very well...I accept your assessment that rambling is superior to spamming. From now on, the only spam I will use is that weird meat substitute.... :hmph: .... then again maybe not :dead:

:lol:

[Naegling]

Originally posted by DAM8024
Actually Naegling, you should notice that they only deleted one of the Kikyo/Kagome debate threads recently and it's obvious that it was due to my flaming and offensive posts to JmInuyasha who has been treating me with disrespect the whole time he's been here.

Besides that one, I have never seen any other debate threads deleted in all the time I've been here, which is over a year. The point is as long as we keep posts civil and intelligent, we won't have problems. Feel free to not read these threads if it bothers you that much.
I miss a good debate. Besides, you are the one that sunk so low to flame. And, what disrespect? You confirmed yourself most of what he said.

[mintchoclt]

Originally posted by Greek Honeybee
Rambling is good. Spamming is bad, but I think rambling is still okay. :spin:

I think it's pretty funny that Kagome's folks don't find it strange at all that she's involved with a half-demon guy. Right from the start they fall in love with him, treat him like a member of the family, like he's always been there. I love it!

And Inuyasha will get the opportunity to introduce her to his mother and father in the third movie since they supposedly come back from the dead. 8)

Sesshoumaru seems to have some respect for her, at least. For the fact that she'll stand up to him like he's nothing to protect Inu if she has to.

REALLY?!...his parents might be coming back to life...oh ^o^ how exciting. It almost sounds like an old time thing where he is taking her to meet her parents to get their approval on his choice of mate.

I'm also kinda curious as to what Inuyasha's father looks like too...:???:

[Greek Honeybee]

Originally posted by WrestleSFX
Will or have those IY movies been dubbed and made available in the US... and when? <--this must be asked a million times, but indulge me. ;)

As I have said frequently, I've still only seen the merest fraction of the series...but does Sesshomaru become aware of her abilities such as with the sacred arrows? Two movies have been released so far and neither of them have been brought over here or dubbed yet. Although rumor has it that Cartoon Network is negotiating for the rights to do just that and show them on Adult Swim. No word yet as to when.

Similar rumors are of the third, being released in Japan in December I believe, to be dubbed and released in the US in theaters. Again, no one's quite sure when.

I think it's episode 18 or 19 that Sess gets ahold of the Tetsaiga and starts fighting a defenseless Inuyasha. Kagome comes to Inu's rescue with a few good arrows and surprises Sess. Her powers weren't that developed so early on and he defeated them easily enough once the element of surprise was gone, but I got the impression that something about her did make him the slightest bit nervous.


Originally posted by mintchoclt
REALLY?!...his parents might be coming back to life...oh ^o^ how exciting. It almost sounds like an old time thing where he is taking her to meet her parents to get their approval on his choice of mate.

I'm also kinda curious as to what Inuyasha's father looks like too...:???: The third movie is titled Tenka Hadou no Ken "The Sword to Rule the World". It's a third sword made from Inuyasha and Sesshoumaru's father. It has the power to open a gateway between the living realm and the underworld and that's how they come back. Three major characters wind up dying, some evil guy gets ahold of the sword and Inu and Sess get into some serious fights for it and some such.

Here's the trailers at the official movie site:
http://www.inuyasha-movie.com/trailer/index.html

And you can go here and see the televised ads for it:
http://www.ytv.co.jp/inuyasha_movie/spot.html
They give us little glimpses of their father, and Inuyasha's mother gets a name: Izayoi.

[SoulfulFX]

Are the movies part of the IY series plot or do they not really fit into it?

[Greek Honeybee]

Not really. They're like oversized filler episodes. I believe Takahashi has a final say over what they can and can't do, though.

[SoulfulFX]

Originally posted by Greek Honeybee
Not really. They're like oversized filler episodes. I believe Takahashi has a final say over what they can and can't do, though.

Ok, I think I can understand that. Still...someone needs to zip on over to Japan and drag them over here. ;)

[08th commander]

The third movie is titled Tenka Hadou no Ken "The Sword to Rule the World". It's a third sword made from Inuyasha and Sesshoumaru's father. It has the power to open a gateway between the living realm and the underworld and that's how they come back. Three major characters wind up dying, some evil guy gets ahold of the sword and Inu and Sess get into some serious fights for it and some such.

Here's the trailers at the official movie site:
http://www.inuyasha-movie.com/trailer/index.html

And you can go here and see the televised ads for it:
http://www.ytv.co.jp/inuyasha_movie/spot.html
They give us little glimpses of their father, and Inuyasha's mother gets a name: Izayoi. [/B][/QUOTE]




i guess i shouldn't be complaining cuz i still need 7 more dvds in the series (and that just whats out now) but i really want to see the movies after seein the preview....waiting sucks, but i have no doubt that they'll be licensed, just a matter of when.....Why not now:bawling:

Edit- sorry, i think i messed up with the quote feature

[DAM8024]

Originally posted by Naegling
I miss a good debate. Besides, you are the one that sunk so low to flame. And, what disrespect? You confirmed yourself most of what he said.

As a rule Naegling, remember that I only flame when someone else flames me first. JmInuyasha is the first one I've had to deal with this harshly in all my time here and I've had good discussions with a lot of fans of this series. Nothing like this has ever come out of those discussions. At the start, I made every effort to be civilized with JmInuyasha but it didn't work.

What did I confirm? If you treat me with disrespect, I won't take it. I will deal it right back to you. What did you expect me to do? If I walk up and punch someone in the face, I better be ready for a fight. This is pretty much what JmInuyasha did. Good freakin job! :cheers:

[Naegling]

Originally posted by DAM8024
If you treat me with disrespect, I won't take it. I will deal it right back to you. What did you expect me to do?
Oh? So you sneak to there level?

tsk tsk tsk

Oh well...I suppose that some people don't learn that the "Eye for an eye" method doesn't work. You could have always ignored him. Frankly, I can't blame JmInuyasha for doing that. There is only so much frustration that one can tolerate. His was just at the limit.

[DAM8024]

Originally posted by Naegling
Oh? So you sneak to there level?

tsk tsk tsk

Oh well...I suppose that some people don't learn that the "Eye for an eye" method doesn't work. You could have always ignored him. Frankly, I can't blame JmInuyasha for doing that. There is only so much frustration that one can tolerate. His was just at the limit.

Haha, I didn't even flame you and you were already reacting somewhat hostilely to my posts. Imagine if I had actually flamed you like I flamed JmInuyasha :uhoh:. Would you really be able to ignore it as you preach me to ignore him? I very much doubt it.

Keep in mind, JmInuyasha came to AN with the purpose to flame and insult me. If you remember that first conversation he posted between us where he IMed me out of no where and started to insult me for no reason as I had nothing against him. What frustration are you talking about? As you see, he was the one to start all of this. I never said or did anything to frustrate or provoke him until he did it.

Instead of saying how frustrated he is, perhaps you should say how frustrated YOU are because he isn't here so why do you feel the need to speak for him? The fact is you are frustrated with me so you cheer for anyone who goes against me. So why don't you come out and say it? I mean if I were you, I might be frustrated with me too for all my posts of the strong defense of Kikyo.

[Naegling]

Originally posted by DAM8024
Haha, I didn't even flame you and you were already reacting somewhat hostilely to my posts. Imagine if I had actually flamed you like I flamed JmInuyasha :uhoh:. Would you really be able to ignore it as you preach me to ignore him? I very much doubt it.
That wasn't hostile...it would be obvious when I was pissed. I was just be sarcastic. If you had flamed me then I would have reacted the same way. I might not ignore, but, I definetly not flame back. There is no point to it. It leads no where. And, you should doubt it since I am not like you nor do you know me.

Originally posted by DAM8024
Keep in mind, JmInuyasha came to AN with the purpose to flame and insult me. If you remember that first conversation he posted between us where he IMed me out of no where and started to insult me for no reason as I had nothing against him. What frustration are you talking about? As you see, he was the one to start all of this. I never said or did anything to frustrate or provoke him until he did it.
How is pointing out problems with your arguements an insult? Frustration, hmmm...if I was to tell it would start a flame war, more than likely.

Originally posted by DAM8024
Instead of saying how frustrated he is, perhaps you should say how frustrated YOU are because he isn't here so why do you feel the need to speak for him? The fact is you are frustrated with me so you cheer for anyone who goes against me. So why don't you come out and say it? I mean if I were you, I might be frustrated with me too for all my posts of the strong defense of Kikyo.
How am I speaking for him? These words are mine and mine alone. I say them because I want to say them and I don't care what anyone else thinks about. Dude, you are paranoid. THE WORLD IS OUT TO GET YOU, DAM! RUN!! HIDE!!!

-_-;

Anyways...what are you talking about when you say your strong defense of Kikyo? All you do is attack Kagome.

[JmInuyasha]

The life of a Dam8025. What a simple and delightful thing indeed. Just when you believe it to be completely and utterly over, it’s just sparked up again. Why dam, the fact that you had to go into yet another thread, and specifically challenge just me again, is very strange. Especially to someone who is constantly saying, “whatever you write to me I can never take serious or offensive.” Yet, you constantly come back, and become more bitter and hate filled with every page of nonsense. It is ridiculous Dam8024. It’s just reached a point where its no longer funny anymore, just more rather, an annoyance, best compared to that, of an ant that is crawling up your leg. No matter how many times you think you’ve squashed it, its still alive and well, and walking right up your leg still. Constantly, again and again, we write to you, giving you the specific reasons of why the things you say, are incorrect, yet you keep crawling back, responding with the same response.

You just have to face it dam. There are going to be more people who like Kagome more than people who like Kikyo. Why you ask? Well, these seemed easy, but to you I guess its not. Kagome is a character more people can identify with, and actually would see them selves being around the type of person like Kagome is. Why would more people hate Kikyo? I’m sure if it were the real, and actually kindhearted Kikyo, people would in fact like her a lot more. She seemed like a really nice character, when she was in fact alive that is. Thing is though. The Kikyo we primarily see is the dead one, the manifestation of Kikyo’s hatred before she died. Sure people can like her, just fewer would identify more with her than they would with Kagome. Most people that prefer Kikyo to Kagome though, are simply people that hate the stereotypical cheerful love seeking high school student cliché, and just seek out another character in which they can consider a favorite, which is why some people pick Sango or Kikyo as their favorite female characters.

You also mentioned on quite a few occasions that you only step in when you see someone stating that Kikyo is a female dog, and should die because she is one. Yet, quite the past few times when you step in the conversation, no one says anything at all to that affect. Its seems as though you step in, merely to create an argument around you, and it seems as though you thrive on these types of situation, sort as to prove as though because you can respond to what is it, 5 maybe now? (Naegling, Greek Honeybee, myself, and then, maybe, a handful of other, few liner posts) Thing is though, you don’t even respond to them properly, you simply state what you’ve been stating since post one. Of course, with the minor adjustments you may make over time. What is it now? Kikyo was in a desperate situation, so that is why she was attempting to drag him down to hell with her, and it was only once, so it’s all right. Rather than saying yes, she did try to take him down to hell with her, but oh… Yeah, Inuyasha said he would go down to hell with her. Yeah, either way, good thing Kikyo knew that before she attempted to force Inuyasha to go to hell with her, oh wait… She didn’t know. And was bringing him down with her so he too could go through all the torments of hell that she would be going through… What a loving and caring woman.

[JmInuyasha]

Now, who exactly is exaggerating when then say Kikyo is an evil character? I don’t really see an exaggeration here, being that she is an evil character and all. Lets look at what she does through out the show. Shall we? She uses part of Kagome’s soul in order for her to come back to the world of the living. Bad. She refuses to give Kagome back that part of her soul. Bad. She requires more souls in order to sustain her body. Bad. Attempted to kill Inuyasha when she first meets him after being reborn into the clay body. Bad. Tries to bring him down to hell with her. Bad. Questionably attempts to kill Kagome. Bad. Steals the almost completed Shikon no Tama. Bad. Gives it to Naraku. Bad. Obviously has a chance to kill him, yet does not take it (as taken from a post by Greek Honeybee in the Kikyo….. dose everyone hate Kikyo? Thread) Bad. Actually sits there, and has a civilized conversation with Naraku. (the supposed enemy of Kikyo) Bad. Actually staying at Naraku’s castle for a short period of time (few episode span if I remember properly) bad. Now, lets factor in the incredibly questionable things you say are, “good” things she does in the show. Goes around from village to village, helping wounded and sick villagers get better. How is this questionable? Because you don’t know if Kikyo does or does not require a constant replenishing of souls in order to sustain her body, even though, a vast majority of people believe she needs to regularly refresh her supply of souls. So when she helps the villagers out, she takes her portion of souls from the village as well. She gives Naraku the Shikon no Tama, for a greater good. Now, she has this plan, which no body knows exactly what it is. And from the set up of it, it sounds like a god-awful plan. Oh, hey, lets hand over this jewel that makes demons incredibly powerful, to one of the most threatening demons on the planet currently. But don’t worry, I have a plan that may, or may not, get rid of him when he uses the full jewel. And if that plan fails, then that would probably be a big whoopsie, now wouldn’t it? She still loves Inuyasha. You know, there is this thing in the world, called lying, and manipulating people to make them do whatever it is they want them to do. For all we know, Kikyo could easily be playing on Inuyasha’s past love for her, to make him do, exactly what she wants him to do. Now, lets say, those things that you say are, “good” are in fact pure hearted, and are for the intentions of, “good” (even though, I can’t really see a clay doll that has the embodiment of the evil will of a person who passed away doing anything good, but lets over look that) then do those, mere two things out weigh the nine truly bad things she did?

The analogy, that you so, stupidly, took word for word, and made it fact, because apparently to you, analogies, are what they actually are said to be. Such as you referring to Inuyasha as a retarded mutant, yourself a mental challenged individual, and me referring to Inuyasha as a dog, Kagome like a dog trainer, Kikyo as Satan, Inuyasha as a sinner, and Kagome as a saint. But, since I am not you, and don’t take the analogies themselves as fact, but perhaps the reasoning for analogies as fact. For I clearly pointed out, that Kagome is teaching Inuyasha right from wrong since clearly, he does not know this. When Inuyasha insults Kagome, and Inuyasha does not realize he has done so, Kagome makes it clear to him that it did insult her, by sitting him. But then the statement by you stating that sit is controlling and abusive, and that if she merely talked to him, he would understand, and would not have to be sit. This obviously did not work. Kagome tried reasoning with Inuyasha in the beginning of the show, but then it got to a point where she knows that reasoning does not get through to Inuyasha fully, and that it takes a sit for it to fully sink in. Its not a way to simply abuse Inuyasha, it’s a way to help him learn right from wrong, and to be more sensitive towards the feelings of other people, especially to that of woman and children. Yes, this is controlling, but Kikyo too was trying to do the same thing, except, rather than try and make him a better person all together, she just offered him a chance to hide part of who he truly was. With Kagome doing this to him, she is offering him a chance to stay who he truly is, and be a better person that people can easily get along with. Am I trying to justify because Kikyo did it too, it is ok? No, I am not, but I will justify it however, with the fact that it is truly what Inuyasha wants. He wants to be accepted by any group of people, Kikyo’s way would have been the easy way out, but Kagome’s path is the better path through and through, since it allows him to truly be himself.

Next for the, me joining the anime nation forums, because of you. Yes, this is in fact true, I did because a little while before actually coming across anime nation, I had began having interest in Inuyasha, and reading on what other people had to say about the show. It was going good, until I finally found this 1 person, who appeared in multiple threads sprouting these stories, on how Kikyo is actually a kind hearted character still in the show. But the thing is, if she really were a kind-hearted character, would excuses have to be made on her behalf for her harsh actions? I don’t believe so. I mean, saying things like this maybe once, alright, you can move along now, no harm, no fowl. But when its posted along multiple threads, its just plain ridiculous. And the fact that you hide behind a wall of, it’s my interpretation of the show, so to me, it is correct, is just plain ridiculous. Especially when people are repeatedly trying to show you that, what you actually thought was going on in the show, was incorrect, and are giving you situations from the show that actually do show proof of what they are saying to be true. But you seem to be in some sort of sense of denial. To you, how could a character that you like, be anything but perfect? You need to learn this Dam, if you like a character, and consider them a favorite, it really doesn’t matter if their intentions are evil, or good. You have to understand that the things Kikyo does, are bad. She is in the show, to create a difficult situation for Inuyasha. She may kill Naraku, but then again, she may not, and the consequences that could have been easily avoided if she fails with this, “incredible plan” of hers, are pretty bad. That is the one, possibly good thing she is doing in the show, attempting to kill Naraku, but for all we know, she could be trying to help him become more powerful. But because she tells her plan to no one, we do not know.

[JmInuyasha]

Well Dam, that just about covers all you basically say on the matter that is Kikyo, but please Dam. Actually, you know what, I demand that you tell me if I actually missed something that you say in, “defense” of Kikyo. I also demand you tell me if I, “missed” something from previous posts of yours. Why do I demand? Simple common courtesy. The fact that I took the time to actually respond to you is what makes me demand this from you. You are the one that kept bickering, and challenging me to come back. So I have answered the call. On a side note, incase you did not know (and by that cockiness that you seem to be displaying every time you mention it) I did respond to the post you are so proud of. And also apparently proud of the fact it got that thread deleted as well. But unfortunately, the thread I made to post the response in was also deleted, and I also received a message from the mod, stating that I should not post it again. It was quite a funny read. You should look into getting your hands on a copy of it. Akwan or WrestleSFX may have a copy of it, so you may want to ask them, being they both responded to the thread before it was unfortunately deleted.

On another note. If you are going to use some body else’s punch line, at least do it correctly guy. Its not just good freakin job!:cheers: First, you need to double space. Then in all capital letters, type good freaking job. Like this

GOOD FREAKING JOB!:cheers:

You, are welcome Dam.

[mintchoclt]

I agree with you JmInu that Kikyo is evil. But in a way, I don't think she is completely evil. Cuz in some areas of the series she seems to show a soft side. She only seems evil when she is around Inuyasha and Kagome.

Also to me the only time she is nice is when she is helping villagers get back on their feet. Other times she is rotten to the core.

But don't get me wrong...I still don't like Kikyo, but I don't hate her either. She is just one of those characters that are there to cause the main charcters a lot of drama.

IT"S LIKE A FREAKIN SOAP OPERA!!!! And I HATE soap operas.

[SoulfulFX]

Originally posted by mintchoclt
I agree with you JmInu that Kikyo is evil. But in a way, I don't think she is completely evil. Cuz in some areas of the series she seems to show a soft side. She only seems evil when she is around Inuyasha and Kagome.

Also to me the only time she is nice is when she is helping villagers get back on their feet. Other times she is rotten to the core.

But don't get me wrong...I still don't like Kikyo, but I don't hate her either. She is just one of those charactrs they and to cause the main charcters a lot of drama.

IT"S LIKE A FREAKIN SOAP OPERA!!!! And I HATE soap operas.

It's those silly love triangles...always gumming up the works. :lol:

[mintchoclt]

Originally posted by WrestleSFX
It's those silly love triangles...always gumming up the works. :lol:

To true, to true. If we didn't have this triangle we wouldn't have a series worth watching, and then we wouldn't also have this debate. ^_^

The only thing that would happen is allowing Inuyasha to only have to worry about one woman. As long as that one woman would be Kagome...it would be all good.

[SoulfulFX]

Originally posted by mintchoclt
As long as that one woman would be Kagome...it would be all good.

That's fine with me, that it is. :)

[mintchoclt]

Originally posted by WrestleSFX
That's fine with me, that it is. :)

LOL...:lol: Now your going Kenshin.

Oh I came across this fanart and I thought it was hilarious
http://www.grey-space.net/kns/gallery/switch.html

And this one deals with mostly Sango and Miroku, but I couldn't resist...it is that funny.
http://www.grey-space.net/kns/gallery/fwoop.html

[meowchi]

Those are priceless!! That person can really draw. They look so CUTE!!!

[SoulfulFX]

Originally posted by mintchoclt
LOL...:lol: Now your going Kenshin.

Oh I came across this fanart and I thought it was hilarious
http://www.grey-space.net/kns/gallery/switch.html

And this one deals with mostly Sango and Miroku, but I couldn't resist...it is that funny.
http://www.grey-space.net/kns/gallery/fwoop.html

What's more interesting is when I slip into saying stuff like that in real life.

Those pictures are fantastic...Sailor Inuyasha... :lol:

[Naegling]

Originally posted by mintchoclt
LOL...:lol: Now your going Kenshin.

Oh I came across this fanart and I thought it was hilarious
http://www.grey-space.net/kns/gallery/switch.html
This is a bit diturbing...but some what funny.

Originally posted by mintchoclt
And this one deals with mostly Sango and Miroku, but I couldn't resist...it is that funny.
http://www.grey-space.net/kns/gallery/fwoop.html
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! THIS IS PRICELESS!!! You have got to love this! ^_^ :lol: ^_^

[Greek Honeybee]

Hehe! Inuyasha looks good in a miniskirt. And Kagome looks so cute bounding around in Inu's suit.

[SoulfulFX]

Originally posted by Greek Honeybee
Hehe! Inuyasha looks good in a miniskirt. And Kagome looks so cute bounding around in Inu's suit.

Everyone looks good in their alternate clothes...except Inuyasha. He looks like a weirdo. :lol:

[meowchi]

Originally posted by WrestleSFX
Everyone looks good in their alternate clothes...except Inuyasha. He looks like a weirdo. :lol:
He does not.... I would still hit on him. :lol: um... maybe I should stop there, before I become the weirdo :eek:

[mintchoclt]

You should see what her other drawings look like. Especially the ones with Miroku's hair down...talk about make you drool...:drool:.
He looks positively yummy.

For example:
http://www.grey-space.net/kns/gallery/disguise.html

Here also are some really good Inuyasha and Kagome ones:

http://hamanasu.sakura.ne.jp/~ten/e/images/kiri30000.jpg

http://hamanasu.sakura.ne.jp/~ten/e/images/kiri_66666.jpg

The second one is my personal favorite!!!:crush:

[mintchoclt]

Originally posted by WrestleSFX
What's more interesting is when I slip into saying stuff like that in real life.

Those pictures are fantastic...Sailor Inuyasha... :lol:

What's funny is when I was talking to a friend of mine online yesterday, and even I did a Kenshin. Weird...-o-;

Anime is starting to rub off on me a little too much. Talk about an anime overload...:dizzy:

[SoulfulFX]

Originally posted by meowchi
He does not.... I would still hit on him. :lol: um... maybe I should stop there, before I become the weirdo :eek:

I'm not passing judgement...but if you start hitting on a half-demon wearing that kind of outfit...frankly...you're gonna get some odd looks. ;) -o-;

But...love is love eh?

[SoulfulFX]

Originally posted by mintchoclt
What's funny is when I was talking to a friend of mine online yesterday, and even I did a Kenshin. Weird...-o-;

Anime is starting to rub off on me a little too much. Talk about an anime overload...:dizzy:

Doing it online is one thing, doing it in person is another... :lol:

[Greek Honeybee]

Originally posted by WrestleSFX
Everyone looks good in their alternate clothes...except Inuyasha. He looks like a weirdo. :lol: Yeah, well, at least he doesn't look too happy about it. If HE thought he looked good, THEN he'd be a weirdo! :lol:

[SoulfulFX]

Originally posted by Greek Honeybee
Yeah, well, at least he doesn't look too happy about it. If HE thought he looked good, THEN he'd be a weirdo! :lol:

Cross-dressers...oy! :lol:

[meowchi]

Originally posted by WrestleSFX
I'm not passing judgement...but if you start hitting on a half-demon wearing that kind of outfit...frankly...you're gonna get some odd looks. ;) -o-;

But...love is love eh?
yeah I guess you are right. I still he looks cute in the drawing though. :D

[Bakeneko]

All this talk about the cross-dressing pic and being a weirdo makes me think of Ranma. When Inuyasha fell into the pond in Episode 8 (the one with the frog), I actually expected him to change into something... like a girl voiced by Megumi Hayashibara... :lol:

[SoulfulFX]

Originally posted by meowchi
yeah I guess you are right. I still he looks cute in the drawing though. :D

Cute...riiiight....

Remember that expression Kenshin, Sano, Yahiko, and Misao gave to Mr. Artist's final painting of Kaoru in the anime?

;)

:lol:

[meowchi]

Originally posted by WrestleSFX
Cute...riiiight....

Remember that expression Kenshin, Sano, Yahiko, and Misao gave to Mr. Artist's final painting of Kaoru in the anime?

;)

:lol:
hahaha I almost forgot all about that. God that was too funny. Hey wait a second..... are you looking at me like that? :lol:

[SoulfulFX]

Originally posted by meowchi
hahaha I almost forgot all about that. God that was too funny. Hey wait a second..... are you looking at me like that? :lol:

No, I'm looking like that at Inuyasha in Kagome's school outfit. -o-;

[meowchi]

Originally posted by WrestleSFX
No, I'm looking like that at Inuyasha in Kagome's school outfit. -o-;
oh ok... yeah he does look pretty funny in her little skirt. She looks so cute in his outfit. Could be a good filler....

[SoulfulFX]

Originally posted by meowchi
oh ok... yeah he does look pretty funny in her little skirt. She looks so cute in his outfit. Could be a good filler....

I agree, Inuyasha's kimono does Kagome justice, that it does.

But Inuyasha in a frilly skirt and that blouse...just not gonna work.

I think such a filler episode would rank up there with DBZ's driving school episode and RK's wedding ring episode as all time greatest filler episodes.

[meowchi]

Originally posted by WrestleSFX
I agree, Inuyasha's kimono does Kagome justice, that it does.

But Inuyasha in a frilly skirt and that blouse...just not gonna work.

I think such a filler episode would rank up there with DBZ's driving school episode and RK's wedding ring episode as all time greatest filler episodes.
I think so too. I loved that DBZ episode, that was just too funny. And the wedding ring episode was really good too. I just felt so bad for Kaoru. Poor girl... Kenshin is such a block head some times!

[SoulfulFX]

Originally posted by meowchi
I think so too. I loved that DBZ episode, that was just too funny. And the wedding ring episode was really good too. I just felt so bad for Kaoru. Poor girl... Kenshin is such a block head some times!

Kenshin's lack of culture is amazing some times. :lol:

Frankly...so is Inuyasha's.

[meowchi]

Originally posted by WrestleSFX
Kenshin's lack of culture is amazing some times. :lol:

Frankly...so is Inuyasha's.
I think that's why we always seems to compair Kenshin and InuYasha. They are a lot like in the way they treat women.

[SoulfulFX]

Originally posted by meowchi
I think that's why we always seems to compair Kenshin and InuYasha. They are a lot like in the way they treat women.

*sigh*

No wonder it takes so long for them to get together. But at least it's love that lasts.

[meowchi]

Originally posted by WrestleSFX
*sigh*

No wonder it takes so long for them to get together. But at least it's love that lasts.
Very true. And that my friend is why Kenshin should be with Kaoru forever and InuYasha should be with Kagome forever. ;)

[SoulfulFX]

Originally posted by meowchi
Very true. And that my friend is why Kenshin should be with Kaoru forever and InuYasha should be with Kagome forever. ;)

The lot of 'em got my vote, that they do.

[Brill]

Unfortunately this debate is resolved by another means. The love triangle becomes a love line.

[Bakeneko]

Originally posted by Briwisc
Unfortunately this debate is resolved by another means. The love triangle becomes a love line.

Might I ask exactly what you're referring to? What point in the story are you at?

I'd venture a few possibilities, but I don't want to spoil anything for you or anyone else.

[meowchi]

You know that you can put spoiler in here don't you? You just have to do that warning and try and change the text color. I personaly like to read the spoilers...... So that way I can keep up with any thing that I might have missed or not gotten to see yet. So bring on the spoilers.... just respect the rules and change the text color and put up a warning. :D

[Brill]

Alright you asked for it.

SPOILERS!!!!
Don't even think of reading till you've seen episode #125 :smash:

Naraku killed Kikyo at Mt. Pellian (sp?) and tossed her into the miasma river. Of course she could always "come back" cause they never found her dead body.

This is why it's a loveline.

[Bakeneko]

Ke, ano onna wa sonna kantan ni kutabaru wake nee daro.

Manga o yomu mono-tachi wa ore no iu koto o yoku wakatteru na.

...Is speaking in Japanese an adequate way to get out of spoiling stuff? (Of course, if you can read it, you know I'm not really saying all that much...)

For those of you who think I should use more polite Japanese, I have one thing to say: "Ussee na!" :lol: (Besides, Inuyasha is my language coach. :lol:)

[meowchi]

Yeah, what ever you just said. I wish I did know Japanese. :(

[Brill]

Originally posted by Bakeneko
Ke, ano onna wa sonna kantan ni kutabaru wake nee daro.

Manga o yomu mono-tachi wa ore no iu koto o yoku wakatteru na.


Well I got "manga". So if you're implying there is something more in the manga that's fine. I'm just going with the storyline that the anime is giving me. Not saying it will diverge from the manga but it might. It all depends upon the sadistic mind of Takahashi.

[Bakeneko]

Hidoi! How can you call Takahashi sadistic!?

reply: "Having a girl watch her family and friends get killed by her little brother, only to see him get killed after regaining his consciousness, lie to her about the destruction of her village and bring said brother back to life as a bargaining chip for the betrayal of her friends doesn't exactly spring from a wholly kind and gentle soul."

Umm... Okay... Good point... As an author myself, I have to admit there's a rather prevalent drive to do very bad things to your characters, no matter how much you like them. (But, of course, the Darkness does have a powerful grip on my heart. :evil:) Anyway, back to the subject at hand.

It seems that the anime is suffering from another flood of fillers, so it may be a while before the actual story gets touched on again. Even though the anime changes a lot of stuff, they never alter the big, crucial plot points.

I might as well get it out of my system now that I know the code for invisible text.

Kikyou isn't dead... Well, technically she is dead... She's kinda been that way for a while now... What I mean to say is that her little clay body wasn't quite destroyed by Naraku's shouki. It wasn't in that great of shape, though, and it probably would have fallen apart eventually if Kagome hadn't purged it. In typical Kikyou fashion, she bluntly refuses to thank Kagome for saving her. To translate what I had written earlier: "There's no way that woman'd croak that easily." and "The ones who read the manga know what I'm talking about."

[Bakeneko]

By the way, Briwisc, where'd you get the name Mt. Pellian from? Is that what the fansubbers are calling Mt. Hakurei? (Not accusatory, just curious.)

[Brill]

For some reason that word stuck in my mind when I wrote that last post. I have to go back and watch them again, Harukai is right, don't know why Pelian stuck though.

SPOILER.

It's not a surprise about your revelation, since everyone except for 3 people have died at least once in this series =)

[Bakeneko]

I looked up the word "Pellian" and found that it's related to Pell's equation (x^2 - Dy^2 = N). Did you just wrap up a math class, perhaps?

Hidden message!

There's a difference between something being a surprise and something being a spoiler. Mt. Hakurei is the third time Inuyasha is led to believe Kikyou has died. Okay, okay, the first time she really did die, but the others were red herrings. You do make a good point, though. Death really doesn't stop most of the characters (if we add in times that we were led to believe people died, no one would be exempt, but such are the joys of suspenseful drama).

[mintchoclt]

This picture goes along with the first one that I posted with the gang switching outfits.

Well this pic shows Inuyasha and Miroku trying to 'fight' in these outfits, it's hard to describe you have to look for yourselves: :lol:

http://www.grey-space.net/kns/gallery/switch2.html

and as a side note...HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!:cheers:

[Greek Honeybee]

Hehehe! I still think Inu looks good in Kagome's miniskirt. :lol: So cute! Their expressions are perfect!

[mintchoclt]

I know this is a little off topic in this forum, but you all know how Sessshomaru doesn't have his left arm...well wouldn't you all think that he would be able to use his own sword to bring it back?

This is something that as been nagging my mind for quite some time and I just wanted some other opinions.

[ChaoticSerenity]

I doubt it. The Tenseiga is described as a sword that "resurrects" a hundred demons. It's not known to be used to regenerate any limbs or anything like that. Not to mention that Sesshoumaru has done fairly well without it...and being a demon, it's possible that in a few centuries the arm might grow back, though I prefer him without it.

When Sesshoumaru used the Tenseiga on the monster's head for his sword, it neither regenerated the creature's body - simply made the flesh living once again. Same goes for Jaken, who had to pull himself back together. Apparently demon flesh has the ability to merge and put reknit together. Which means had Sesshoumaru stuck around in his father's tomb long enough, he could have found and replaced his arm, but c’est la vie...

-Chaotic Serenity

[Red XIV]

Then theoretically, Sesshoumaru could go back in the tomb (it does still exist, after all), slash his arm with Tenseiga, and put it back on.

Oh, and Tenseiga can (if used to its ultimate potential) restore 100 lives in a single stroke, but they don't have to be demons. It works equally on humans and youkai.

[ChaoticSerenity]

:) Theoretically, yes, but it depends on whether or not the arm has survived after that long. It has been three years in the manga, hasn't it? I'm sure the arm has long since withered and decayed. I think it's simply more the case that he never got a chance to go back and get the thing.

As for the sword...yesh, resurrection all around. ;) I was just trying to remember specifically how it was described, and perhaps I remembered wrong. If it was just a demon-reviver, then I'd have to wonder how potent Rin really was... ;)

-Chaotic Serenity

[Bakeneko]

As Toutousai says himself, the power of Tenseiga is "hyakumei no inochi o sukuu." In other words, it saves the lives of a hundred, being human or youkai is irrelevant. Besides, we've seen him save both humans and youkai, so it's obvious that Tenseiga's power extends to both.

Three years could not possibly have passed in the story. Remember that Kagome has her high school entrance exams to worry about and they haven't happened yet. (She'd be noticeably upset if she missed them.) If we count the number of times we've seen Inuyasha lose his powers at the new moon, then I'd say about six months have passed since Kagome first went back to the Sengoku Jidai.

As for Sesshoumaru's arm, if he really wanted it back and if it was even remotely salvageable, he'd no longer be the one-armed wonder that he is. SPOILER Everyone went back to the Inu Taishou's grave to fight Naraku. Obviously, Sesshoumaru was a little busy fighting Naraku, but if he really wanted to, he could have fetched his arm after the battle was over. He obviously wasn't interested or it was beyond help. Besides the fact that he can take just about anyone on one-handed is much cooler, right?

[mintchoclt]

Originally posted by Bakeneko
As Toutousai says himself, the power of Tenseiga is "hyakumei no inochi o sukuu." In other words, it saves the lives of a hundred, being human or youkai is irrelevant. Besides, we've seen him save both humans and youkai, so it's obvious that Tenseiga's power extends to both.

Three years could not possibly have passed in the story. Remember that Kagome has her high school entrance exams to worry about and they haven't happened yet. (She'd be noticeably upset if she missed them.) If we count the number of times we've seen Inuyasha lose his powers at the new moon, then I'd say about six months have passed since Kagome first went back to the Sengoku Jidai.

As for Sesshoumaru's arm, if he really wanted it back and if it was even remotely salvageable, he'd no longer be the one-armed wonder that he is. SPOILER Everyone went back to the Inu Taishou's grave to fight Naraku. Obviously, Sesshoumaru was a little busy fighting Naraku, but if he really wanted to, he could have fetched his arm after the battle was over. He obviously wasn't interested or it was beyond help. Besides the fact that he can take just about anyone on one-handed is much cooler, right?

Not only does him being only one armed and looking cool as you say. But it also seems to make him more deadly, since he can take an arm from anyother demon that he wants.

But in the end when Naraku is delt with and gone, I have a feeling that he will go get his arm back. I have a feeling that in the end he will mellow out more because of Rin.

[mintchoclt]

I just got done reading the synopsis for Episode 140,SPOILER and it is begining to sound like Inuyasha has certain feelings for Kagome. But he is afraid of rejection(as usual), so he won't tell her...yet!!!

But if you want to read it go here:
http://www.furinkan.com/iycompanion/new/index.html

But if you want to wait, I highly recommend that you ignore that link because it is a huge SPOILER !!!!

You have been warned... :smash:...:evil:

All in favor of kagome and Inuyasha being together say Ay!!!...:lol:

[SoulfulFX]

Originally posted by mintchoclt
I just got done reading the synopsis for Episode 140,SPOILER and it is begining to sound like Inuyasha has certain feelings for Kagome. But he is afraid of rejection(as usual), so he won't tell her...yet!!!

But if you want to read it go here:
http://www.furinkan.com/iycompanion/new/index.html

But if you want to wait, I highly recommend that you ignore that link because it is a huge SPOILER !!!!

You have been warned... :smash:...:evil:

All in favor of kagome and Inuyasha being together say Ay!!!...:lol:

Ay, that they should!

[Bakeneko]

I'll give my "aye," but Episode 140 is just filler... At least they get back to the story in 141... Do you realize there's only been two canon eps since 126? It's crazy. (Not as crazy as the 88-102 filler arc, but close...)

Anyway, Inuyasha's feelings toward Kagome are pretty clear even without any direct statements. (Of course, direct statements aren't in the character of most of the cast anyway. Shippou's about the only one who can deliver the bare-faced truth without reservation.)

[SoulfulFX]

Originally posted by Bakeneko
I'll give my "aye," but Episode 140 is just filler... At least they get back to the story in 141... Do you realize there's only been two canon eps since 126? It's crazy. (Not as crazy as the 88-102 filler arc, but close...)

Anyway, Inuyasha's feelings toward Kagome are pretty clear even without any direct statements. (Of course, direct statements aren't in the character of most of the cast anyway. Shippou's about the only one who can deliver the bare-faced truth without reservation.)

And only because Shippo is too young to understand the complete ramifications.

[Bakeneko]

Not true. Shippou is a precocious little imp who knows exactly what he's saying. It would be more accurate to say that Shippou doesn't have any sense of inhibition when it comes to speaking his mind. The maturity of his thinking is mitigated somewhat by the anime, however.

Case in point, when Shippou asks Inuyasha how far he's gotten with Kagome in Episode 11, he immediately wonders why things like that bother grown ups, implying that he has no idea what he's talking about. In the manga, however, there's nothing tacked on at the end. In other words, Shippou was well aware of what he was asking. Obviously, he didn't appreciate the consequences of such forward questions or he could have avoided being throttled by the flustered hanyou.

This trend is repeated over and over again when Shippou unabashedly makes comments that cut Inuyasha right to the quick and suffers accordingly. On the bright side, we can take comfort in the fact that he's honest (a habit that's sure to fade growing up around people like Miroku... -_-; ).

[fw1564]

i heard somewhere that, i believe it was Rumiko, said that Inuyasha the second movie had nothing to do with the actual tv series. Is this true? i don't rember where i heard this from. Its been awhile.

[Mikadzuki Tatsu]

i heard somewhere that, i believe it was Rumiko, said that Inuyasha the second movie had nothing to do with the actual tv series. Is this true? i don't rember where i heard this from. Its been awhile.
None of the movies have anything to do with the anime or the manga. They are Sunrise's own creations, and thus are not considered canon.

[Knives122]

Wait I got it, how about Kagikyo, she has Kagomes determination and spunkiness, and Kikyos gothiness, and dead like attitude, the perfect person for inuyasha all wraped up into one half dead weird aged woman/young woman

[Kagura Hakubi]

Thing is, if ye' merge Kikyou and Kagome, ya get Kagome from the first few episodes. An' she was diff'rent. More angry 'n stuff.

[Greek Honeybee]

Kagome really wasn't any different in the first few episodes than she was after Kikyou revived. A little naive to the times she found herself in, but that's to be expected.

And Inu doesn't need no angsty goth girl. :P

[Brill]

Aw c'mon, every guy needs a bi-polar goth for exposure. :)

[Greek Honeybee]

But... he's bi-polar enough on his own! :lol: He needs a happy and cheerful partner to balance him out.

Same with Kikyou. I still say pair her up with Houjou! :naughty:

[Knives122]

thats why we need Kagikyou its the best of both worlds

[chaos link]

but i think that kikyo have a crush on naraku and hey dont think that im acting like a girl cus i just dont.

[Kagura Hakubi]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/KaguraHakubi/Smilies/sweatdrop.gif You have NOTHIGN to worry about, Link. No girl I know would ever come up with that while in their right mind.

...

Come on...

Naraku?!?

NARAKU?!? Are we talkign about the same evil, slimy, scraggly-haired, greasy Hanyou that betrayed the main characters? As if he wasn't physically unappealing enough, he's so twisted he's back to where he started!

[chaos link]

why think of that thinking of betraying naraku now huh <_<

[Kagura Hakubi]

... I can't believe I was ever interested in that guy... though... he was a lot nicer back then... but now? This is the real him. Spider? Nah. He's not a spider. He's a snake. Definitly a snake. All soothing hisses and comforting hugs until... bam! his coils tighten and you're gaspsing for breath while being crushed. *goes off into a mumbling rant about evil shapeshifters and taking advantage of innocent foreign youkai*

[chaos link]

grrrrrrr...............that bastard why doesnt Naraku live Kagome alone..........:huh:Hey Kagura Hakubi you dont think that Kagome like Naraku do you.

[realmss]

well I have to voice my opinion i think kikyo was way to mature for inuyasha and plus think of it as inuyasha having a second chance anyhow kagome is the reincarnation of kikyo and by the way kikyo is dead the only reason she came back to life was kagome's soul, Kikyo was he's first love but kagome always stood by him no matter what i think he's heart should belong to her

[realmss]

well I have to voice my opinion i think kikyo was way to mature for inuyasha and plus think of it as inuyasha having a second chance anyhow kagome is the reincarnation of kikyo and by the way kikyo is dead the only reason she came back to life was kagome's soul, Kikyo was he's first love but kagome always stood by him no matter what i think he's heart should belong to he

[theshad]

in the words of a classic singer love is better the second time around.

[theshad]

i'm sorry but kikyo is kinda werid.i mean come on make up your mind.......

[CGPAnime84]

I always saw Kagome and InuYasha as the better couple. Yes, Kagome is only 15, but both of them are rather immature in their own ways. Kikyo seems more of a mature, nonchalant adult woman who has been through a lot in her life...and with her current vein personality I could never see her with InuYasha. And I think Kagome and InuYasha kind of fit together better in my personal opinion. They kind of fit the "holes" that is missing in each other's lives, whereas Kikyo and InuYasha's love ended long ago, even tho Inu still longed for her. And I think it was a more pitiful love: the only thing they shared in common was they were tired of fighting. OK...that was about all I could gather that they shared. Both Inu and Kagome on the other hand, are obnoxious at times, immature, and always have arguments towards one another. They both yell when they think they are right and the other is wrong. And they both undoubtedly care for each other deeply, and would risk their lives for one another. Yep, perfect! :P

Also, I think I heard somewhere that in the manga Kikyo dies FINALLY for good, no more resurrecting for her. But I was honestly wondering when she would be able to go on peacefully to the afterlife, poor thing always being brought back to life. Did she really want to be?? She was forced to the first time, then Kagome decided to save her rather then letting her pass on. Did anybody ask Kikyo what she wanted??

Anyway, Kikyo's final death just proves to the InuYasha and Kagome factor there. Sorry Kikyo and Inu fans! :P

[Mikadzuki Tatsu]

Kagome may only be 15, but Inuyasha would be, too, if he were human. The physical state of his body is equivalent to that of a 15-year-old human boy. So, Kagome and Inuyasha are more or less the same "age." Kikyou, on the other hand, was 18 when she (first) died.

[Kyt7]

kagome for so many reasons its ridiculous. i don't mind explaining if an anti- kagome/inuyasha or kikyo/inuyasha fan insists.

[CGPAnime84]

kagome for so many reasons its ridiculous. i don't mind explaining if an anti- kagome/inuyasha or kikyo/inuyasha fan insists.

*nods head in agreement* Yet don't be so harsh on the anti-kagome or Kikyo fans. They may have their points, but yes, the obvious is Kagome. And besides, *SPOILER ALERT* Kikyo dies FINALLY again, so it discredits their wishes unfortunately...so the arguing as to who is better with who is pointless, as since Kagome IS the only one still living (in the Manga) she is the one that will undoubtedly end up with InuYasha, if anyone does that is...

[Mikadzuki Tatsu]

^ Please utilize the spoiler tags. Not everyone here has read that far in the manga.

[CGPAnime84]

OK, I will, sorry about that. -_-;

[Ryuuichi009]

Well I'd have to go with Kikyo

Despite the fact that she's dead

I prefer her with Inuyasha over Kagome anyways. I started finding Kagome irritating after a while.

[Sesshomaru90]

If it were up to me i would make kikyo's soul return to kagome that way inuyasha could have the best of both worlds.

[Burnt Frog]

Defintely a million times Kikyou for me. She's just so cool and awesome and beautiful and tragicly romantic and powerful.

I really really hate Kagome. She's just so annoying and whiney, always getting captured and being dumb. :mad:

So for me it's InuKik all the way! Even if all the stuff in the spoiler tags is true. It's still the one true pairing for me!

[superplough]

Way to necropost

Also, they both suck. I'd kill both of them and just have Sango.

[Brandandi]

I love Kagome! Something about Kikyo drives me crazy. I just want her to go away and leave Inu Yasha and Kagome alone!

[animefan88]

Way to necropost

Also, they both suck. I'd kill both of them and just have Sango.


Agreed!

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[DAM8024]

Wow, a blast from the past. I remember this topic and many others like it. ^_^

[Dr. Ezra]

Way to necropost

Also, they both suck. I'd kill both of them and just have Sango.

QFT

Sango is hotter than both of 'em combined.

[Aznmangadude]

OMFG KAGOME OF COURSE.

http://i30.tinypic.com/2il0kjr.jpg

WTF. ALWAYS SANGO THIS AND SANGO THAT.
Kagome just pwns everyone.
She can just get a handgun from her time and shoot everyones brains out.
THE END.


I really really hate Kagome. She's just so annoying and whiney, always getting captured and being dumb.

You're just judging Kagome ENGLISH VERSION drr.
And don't be fooled. Kagome is no damsel in distress in the ending.
None the less, what do you expect. She is only 15 and from our times.

[firespot]

I like Kagome better, Kikyo is...I don't know. I just don't like her really.

[Kagura]

I personally hate them both. I say "Die already and STAY DEAD!" Sango is better than both of those 2 morons.

Maybe Kagome is better towards the end, but she is still a ditz imo lol