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	<title>Comments on: Ask John: What&#8217;s the Status of the Remaining Geneon Catalog?</title>
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		<title>By: PockyBox.com</title>
		<link>http://www.animenation.net/blog/2009/06/17/ask-john-whats-the-status-of-the-remaining-geneon-catalog/comment-page-1/#comment-2956</link>
		<dc:creator>PockyBox.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I learned it a few years later, but the reason for the name switch was Pioneer sold their animation division to Dentsu. I also heard some nonsense about marketing being the reason for the name change, because Geneon sounded cooler, but really, did we need another anime company exploiting the fratboy sensibilites in a misguided attempt to market anime to teens? Who can forget ADV&#039;s &quot;too hot for Japan&quot; promo or Funimation&#039;s &quot;Blood, Babes, Blades Beauty&quot; campaign? Geneon&#039;s official fanclub was the Geneon Spot, or G Spot as they liked to call it. It&#039;s groan inducing, but it worked for ADV and Funi, though Geneon obviously wasn&#039;t so successful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I learned it a few years later, but the reason for the name switch was Pioneer sold their animation division to Dentsu. I also heard some nonsense about marketing being the reason for the name change, because Geneon sounded cooler, but really, did we need another anime company exploiting the fratboy sensibilites in a misguided attempt to market anime to teens? Who can forget ADV&#8217;s &#8220;too hot for Japan&#8221; promo or Funimation&#8217;s &#8220;Blood, Babes, Blades Beauty&#8221; campaign? Geneon&#8217;s official fanclub was the Geneon Spot, or G Spot as they liked to call it. It&#8217;s groan inducing, but it worked for ADV and Funi, though Geneon obviously wasn&#8217;t so successful.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron H. Bynum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron H. Bynum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it a little difficult to fault Geneon for holding to prices on single disc anime releases, because an incredible bulk of sales are/were derived from single disc releases... not everybody can bank on high-volume low-pricepoint sales, especially if their catalogue is as niche as it gets.  I can certainly, however, understand dismissing their overages when it came to pencil boards, magnets and whatnot.

John wrote in a column a few weeks back about keeping anime in circulation simply because they&#039;re so important to the creative history of Japanese animation -- and I think this can be said of a number of titles Geneon used to distribute.  I&#039;m only part-way through Geneon&#039;s release of FUSHIGI YUUGI, but I plan to finish it one of these days.  Also, I&#039;d like to see another adequate release of KOI KAZE...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it a little difficult to fault Geneon for holding to prices on single disc anime releases, because an incredible bulk of sales are/were derived from single disc releases&#8230; not everybody can bank on high-volume low-pricepoint sales, especially if their catalogue is as niche as it gets.  I can certainly, however, understand dismissing their overages when it came to pencil boards, magnets and whatnot.</p>
<p>John wrote in a column a few weeks back about keeping anime in circulation simply because they&#8217;re so important to the creative history of Japanese animation &#8212; and I think this can be said of a number of titles Geneon used to distribute.  I&#8217;m only part-way through Geneon&#8217;s release of FUSHIGI YUUGI, but I plan to finish it one of these days.  Also, I&#8217;d like to see another adequate release of KOI KAZE&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dragonsky1</title>
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		<dc:creator>dragonsky1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do have to agree that I really prefered the Pioneer name myself.  Though I believe that has to do with the fact that the first &quot;Geneon&quot; release I grabbed was Saiyuki Reload.  It took me a long time to forgive them for recasting the show.

And they definitely didn&#039;t adapt quickly enough to the market.  As the market, lead primarily by ADV and Funimation, continued to devalue anime with cheap singles, followed quickly by even cheaper box sets, Geneon kept charging the same prices.  In fact, their prices were often even higher than those of the other companies, usually $5-$10 for a single.  And don&#039;t even get me started on their box prices....

Add in the fact, that they stuck primarily to niche series in the end years, their obituary was written.  Now personally, I really enjoyed the premium box sets we use to get, but I know very few people bought them.  At Best Buy, the boxes are always the first things sent back or marked down.  And even marked down, people still didn&#039;t grab them.  Late last year, the art boxes for Beck were marked down to $5.99, and yet they still sat on shelves until they were all shipped backed to Funimation.

And the lower prices we enjoy today are good, but they also have a downside.  Despite anime being more reasonably priced than ever, DVD sales are continuing to slide.  Unfortunately, it means less profit margin per release, hence the cheap paper boxes, bricks, and stack packs we have been getting lately.   Cheaper releases can make it much harder for a series to make a profit, or even break even.  In the end, less profit, means less series licensed.

Anyway, here&#039;s hoping that X TV, Chobits, and Ai Yori Aoshi find new homes soon.  Those were some of my favorites in Geneon&#039;s catalog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do have to agree that I really prefered the Pioneer name myself.  Though I believe that has to do with the fact that the first &#8220;Geneon&#8221; release I grabbed was Saiyuki Reload.  It took me a long time to forgive them for recasting the show.</p>
<p>And they definitely didn&#8217;t adapt quickly enough to the market.  As the market, lead primarily by ADV and Funimation, continued to devalue anime with cheap singles, followed quickly by even cheaper box sets, Geneon kept charging the same prices.  In fact, their prices were often even higher than those of the other companies, usually $5-$10 for a single.  And don&#8217;t even get me started on their box prices&#8230;.</p>
<p>Add in the fact, that they stuck primarily to niche series in the end years, their obituary was written.  Now personally, I really enjoyed the premium box sets we use to get, but I know very few people bought them.  At Best Buy, the boxes are always the first things sent back or marked down.  And even marked down, people still didn&#8217;t grab them.  Late last year, the art boxes for Beck were marked down to $5.99, and yet they still sat on shelves until they were all shipped backed to Funimation.</p>
<p>And the lower prices we enjoy today are good, but they also have a downside.  Despite anime being more reasonably priced than ever, DVD sales are continuing to slide.  Unfortunately, it means less profit margin per release, hence the cheap paper boxes, bricks, and stack packs we have been getting lately.   Cheaper releases can make it much harder for a series to make a profit, or even break even.  In the end, less profit, means less series licensed.</p>
<p>Anyway, here&#8217;s hoping that X TV, Chobits, and Ai Yori Aoshi find new homes soon.  Those were some of my favorites in Geneon&#8217;s catalog.</p>
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		<title>By: PockyBox.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, the death of Pioneer LDC (don&#039;t really care for the Geneon name), one of the low days in my life. I don&#039;t think a lot of people today can appreciate what they did for the industry outside of the desire for new Trigun and Hellsing box sets. I wrote a piece about it when it happened, which can be gound here, if I may be so bold as to post a link:

http://pockybox.com/RandomActsofNerdness/rippioneer.html

I agree the expensive premiums were a bit much. When I headed over to Best Buy to buy a new anime, I didn&#039;t really want to pay an extra $20 for a $3 trinket, even though I had to have said trinket more than anything. This stuff should still be offered today, just as an extra piece of merchadise seperate from the DVDs (Dokkodai?! car antenna toppers? Sign me up!).

I also agree Pioneer never was all that good at adapting. While ADV was training us to ignore single DVD releases and wait for drastically reduced box sets to come out, Pioneer kept releasing premium-priced wares. It was worse when they released a box set, which typically cost maybe $10 less than if you were to purchase all the DVDs seperately. $160 for 26 episodes is borderline criminal these days.

Here&#039;s hoping we keep getting high-quality Prioneer releases from Funimation. They seem to know how to wrangle this fickle industry. $30 for a new 13 episode anime is a brilliant balancing act and should encourage sales in this recession. That I was able to purchase One Piece on preorder for $23 gives me hope for the industry.

But was can only have an industry if fans buy legimate DVDs. Come on, people, these are good deals!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, the death of Pioneer LDC (don&#8217;t really care for the Geneon name), one of the low days in my life. I don&#8217;t think a lot of people today can appreciate what they did for the industry outside of the desire for new Trigun and Hellsing box sets. I wrote a piece about it when it happened, which can be gound here, if I may be so bold as to post a link:</p>
<p><a href="http://pockybox.com/RandomActsofNerdness/rippioneer.html" rel="nofollow">http://pockybox.com/RandomActsofNerdness/rippioneer.html</a></p>
<p>I agree the expensive premiums were a bit much. When I headed over to Best Buy to buy a new anime, I didn&#8217;t really want to pay an extra $20 for a $3 trinket, even though I had to have said trinket more than anything. This stuff should still be offered today, just as an extra piece of merchadise seperate from the DVDs (Dokkodai?! car antenna toppers? Sign me up!).</p>
<p>I also agree Pioneer never was all that good at adapting. While ADV was training us to ignore single DVD releases and wait for drastically reduced box sets to come out, Pioneer kept releasing premium-priced wares. It was worse when they released a box set, which typically cost maybe $10 less than if you were to purchase all the DVDs seperately. $160 for 26 episodes is borderline criminal these days.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s hoping we keep getting high-quality Prioneer releases from Funimation. They seem to know how to wrangle this fickle industry. $30 for a new 13 episode anime is a brilliant balancing act and should encourage sales in this recession. That I was able to purchase One Piece on preorder for $23 gives me hope for the industry.</p>
<p>But was can only have an industry if fans buy legimate DVDs. Come on, people, these are good deals!</p>
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