http://www.animenation.net/blog/2008/06/18/ask-john-why-do-some-people-hate-moe/ Anime News & More! Sat, 20 Mar 2010 04:50:59 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 http://www.animenation.net/blog/2008/06/18/ask-john-why-do-some-people-hate-moe/comment-page-1/#comment-467 John Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:22:01 +0000 http://www.animenation.net/blog/?p=12917#comment-467 Not that I'm disagreeing, I just want to clarify that when I referred to "cultural identifier" I meant it in a national sense rather than an individualistic sense. I do agree that there is a subculture of American anime fans that define themselves through their fascination with anime. That's simply a different type of "cultural identifier" from Japanese citizens that perceive anime as an example of contemporary national art and a product of Japanese craftsmanship. Not that I’m disagreeing, I just want to clarify that when I referred to “cultural identifier” I meant it in a national sense rather than an individualistic sense. I do agree that there is a subculture of American anime fans that define themselves through their fascination with anime. That’s simply a different type of “cultural identifier” from Japanese citizens that perceive anime as an example of contemporary national art and a product of Japanese craftsmanship.

]]> http://www.animenation.net/blog/2008/06/18/ask-john-why-do-some-people-hate-moe/comment-page-1/#comment-466 Turtlewind Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:11:57 +0000 http://www.animenation.net/blog/?p=12917#comment-466 I have to disagree when you say anime is not a cultural identifier for americans. It's not a part of mainstream us culture, sure, but it's definitely an important part of the identity of many young americans who see themselves as part of the anime subculture. I think a more important part of why moe isn't popular in the west is something you mentioned yesterday but then dismissed. A lot of moe shows sexualise young female characters, and that's a major reason people give when they say they don't like moe. I get the feeling that western culture (or at least anglophone culture) takes that sort of thing much more seriously than japan, and viewers will (a) feel uncomfortable with it and (b) not want to be associated with that sort of thing. I have to disagree when you say anime is not a cultural identifier for americans. It’s not a part of mainstream us culture, sure, but it’s definitely an important part of the identity of many young americans who see themselves as part of the anime subculture. I think a more important part of why moe isn’t popular in the west is something you mentioned yesterday but then dismissed. A lot of moe shows sexualise young female characters, and that’s a major reason people give when they say they don’t like moe. I get the feeling that western culture (or at least anglophone culture) takes that sort of thing much more seriously than japan, and viewers will (a) feel uncomfortable with it and (b) not want to be associated with that sort of thing.

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